I could remember several years ago, I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Was actually diagnosed with cptsd. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. This is something that really need to be use globally to help people with related health challenges.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
I was horrifically depressed since childhood. It was relentless. I assumed it would ultimately end me somehow. About twelve years ago I randomly accepted the offer from a friend of a few doses of mushrooms. I did them two consecutive nights alone. First night was pretty mild. The second night? Wow. I saw my depression from every angle, realized much. Next day: depression totally gone. Never came back, never coming back. It's like it's a forest far away I can remember, and could probably find again with enough effort, but it has zero impact on anything in my life or mind. They honestly saved my life and improved it immensely. I never did them again, either. I wish there was a good, organized way to administer them to people who would benefit from them.
One of my favorite sayings about mental health and specifically anxiety is: Genetics load the gun and environment pulls the trigger. You can can be predisposed to mental health battles but grow up in a healthy atmosphere and never experience these issues. On the other hand grow up in chaos and you’re likely to manifest some sort mental health issues. Take care of your children folks…love them, support them give them the tools that you didn’t have. Glad Joe and Theo addressed this topic, it is often swept under the rug.
Very true what you are saying. I got the bad end of the stick so I know for a fact what you are saying is true. P.S like you said love your kids. Teach your kids.
It’s crazy because the majority of people like him who are suffering are genuinely some of the most unique and amazing people to be around. ❤ Stay strong 💪 brotha.
It's really hard to start exercise but once you do it's something to look forward to every day/week and the improvements are noticeable thought not super significant at first
@Jim big facts before i went to mexico i probably lost atleast 10 pounds was doing 300 situps a day and atleast 150 push ups a day along with atleast 100 reps with weights and riding one of those weight wheel bikes for 30 minutes, then went to mexico for 4 days and i didnt work out the entire time and didn't continue when i got back cause i was already feeling great, cant imagine what id look like if i kept up with that routine know i wouldnt be 300 pounds with a beer belly lol
This for real helped me because I was worried I was the only one that had this same issue with my antidepressant and also thought I was just a pussy for a while and couldnt handle sobriety. I went off antidepressants for 3 years and ended up going back on them after getting PTSD. I think If I hadnt have gotten PTSD i might have been able to stay sober its a shame how fragile we can be as humans because otherwise im the strongest person I know and I know people dont give me or others the credit they deserve. Long story short Theo is a real one for this. Love this man
Dude my mom went through some heavy heavy trauma while she was pregnant and i have THE worst anxiety, i worry so much just how she does and i fight the feeling cause i know thats now what i want to feel, oh man it sucks dude
As an older adult, I learned a valuable lesson. I saw this in myself and many others. If you are faced with a problem that you don't know how to solve and don't have the tools or knowledge to solve it, you will become anxious. If you stay in that situation day after day, you will be trained to immediately become anxious. Think of a teacher demanding homework or testing on subjects that weren't properly taught. Or a boss or client who are unable to explain their needs but will hold you responsible anyway. Once in a while, it happens, but if it's every day, you have to change the dynamic. Get away if you can't fix it. This isn't good for you long term.
Really glad to hear Joe say he has another perspective on depression now. Heard him so many times say "Just get up and workout and you'll be fine". Paraphrasing but to that effect. Appreciate him recognising the truth about true mental illness.
People tend to forget were supposed to active. No one is meant to be sitting on a couch. Unless of course. But our bodies are wired to move and think.. when you break it down, all of us are supposed to be in shape or somewhat fit. And I mean all of us
I've never been diagnosed but I clearly have constant anxiety. And it makes sense when I'm told stories after my mom passed in 2021. Being smuggled into a country at night on a boat, doesn't help. My mom lived with anxiety all the time. It's so obvious now. She was always on the move, couldn't stay still, had to be doing SOMETHING all the time. She hated staying home too. She would push me and my brother so much. Eventually my brother started studying medicine and shit and was telling my mom what she was dealing with and to see a doctor. She tried to change but ultimately stayed in her ways until the end. Love her so much. Best person I've ever known, hands down. Best mother I could've hoped for. But yeah, she passed down this anxiety. I'm always thinking too much and it lead to being diagnosed with depression, taking meds, etc. No wonder I can't stand still either. Boredom gives me anxiety.
Same boat. I have to exercise for hours a day. Been an athlete my whole life. Loved gym class but always had anxiety from as early as I can remember. Exercise and intense breathing is what helps me
Haven't taken any meds but I know for a fact that I have either depression or bipolar..or both. It helps to talk to someone...but you gotta get over that weird feeling to talking to someone. I feel like this is me just talking to myself...but I really hope everyone that reads this feels amazing about themselves. You're all you got.
For some reason you are experiencing anxiety. You seem unsure as to why. I hope to elucidate. You chose stressful words as descriptors. Your mind creates it for you, and mine for me as well. Your mind creates whatever you expect it to. It's a prison and/or a palace, a prisoner and/or a prince.
@@ayo9057 if you knew anything about him you not only wouldn’t write this but you couldn’t write this logically, he is amazing and you shouldn’t get butt hurt about it just because nobody called you amazing lol
Theo hit the nail on the head with his explanation of depression and SSRIs, for me at least! I just switched from Zoloft to Wellbutrin earlier this month (I was having annoying side effects), but an SSRI basically keeps your head above water, and creates a baseline for you. You still have to do the work to maintain your physical health and even your mental health to an extent, but without it, it’s like there’s an anchor tied to your leg that makes it 10x harder to stay afloat.
@@jess_n_atx Oh I know haha. Bupropion is the other name for it; I just wanted to try out something from a different class. I’m just speaking for when I *was taking the Zoloft.
Just seeing my neighbor on and off of it different weeks, it seemed a lot worse when he was on it. Not a doctor but at some point in your life you didn't need them , like Joe says exercise is a huge factor.. and it's not like "if I feel like exercising" you need to exercise 5 days a week
i had suicidal depression and all mental health disordersand it was extremely painful. probaly more painful than a kidney stone and it was chronic problem. my depression completely went after after doing an elimination diet of meat + bread only. i reintroduced plant foods and still dont have depression. i believe the trigger was from either hershey special dark chocolate, chocolate milk, or fruit sugar. i was consuming alot of sugar during the time
Psilocybin saved my life. I was addicted to heroin for 15 years and after Psilocybin treatment I will be 3 years clean in September. I have zero cravings. This is something that truly needs to be more broadly used in addiction treatment.
Please does anyone know where I can get them? I put so much on my plate and it really affects my stress and anxiety levels, I would love to try shrooms
Psychedelics saved me from vears of uncontrollable depression, anxiety and illicit pill addiction. imagine carving heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not in a couple years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.
I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression when I was in my 30s and it makes alot of things make sense for why I was the way I was in my younger years. I've been prescribed medication and sometimes even prescribed medications that would create worse effect when working with one another. Like your guest said , it's like a constant battle throughout the day. I can still do what I have to , but over time it does take alot of confidence to push through. That's why exercising is so important because it gives me a sense of confidence and that would make me narcissistic, but the narcissism is to combat the depression. That's me tho. Thanks for the information. 😁
I’m really glad to hear Theo be so open about his depression and taking meds. As well, to hear that Joe has changed his outlook on mental health disorders from a weakness of character or will and discipline to no longer believing that. Time and time again I still battle with that belief in my head, that I have depression and anxiety because I’m weak willed or I’m just not doing enough. It’s the shame that comes with this illness , and all it does is prevent you from getting better. Glad to hear Joe has changed his outlook.
I still believe much of depression can be significantly improve by being disciplined, Watch Andrew Huberman podcast on the AMCC region of the brain, it’s the hub for many many neurotransmitters, And it literally gets bigger by engaging in behaviours that take discipline. Disapline improved my depression significantly, I had force myself to do things i would have rathered not doing. And no, you’re weak for not having discipline, It’s a learned skill, Just like climbing a mountain is a learned skill, Not being able to climb doesn’t make you less valuable than anyone, It’s okay.
@@millanandrew can you not see how real Theo is? Read in between the lines: the jokes are just padding reality. Dudes def got demons he has to face on a daily bases. As do we all.
@@FrankYammy he lies in half of his stories so how is milan wrong. Big fan of Theo but you can see some clips where you can tell he’s making it up as he goes along so if you cant tell you’re either stupid or too young
if there is 1 thing that theo isnt, he isnt a liar. Even if he has to say it in a joking way to take the edge off of what hes saying, he'll always tell you the truth.
It's only one way to look at it. Humans all have such different experiences that this is one valid way to see it out of many. It's important to ask for help when you need it.
Wow. Great clip. Totally know how that feels when you get that drop. Strangely I was the only person in my family who ever had anxiety. I think it’s due to childhood shit. Taken me years to get to a point of managing it as best I can. Still get the odd drop, but mostly good now. Thank you for this clip guys. 🙏❤️
I love episodes like these that shine light on depression and anxiety. Anxiety made me drop out of school, I didn't know it was anxiety at the time, but every time I was there, I would get super nauseous and would have to run out of class to the bathroom often. Even till this day, when I'm with my girlfriend I still anxiety vomit often. I'm currently taking anti depressants and anxiety meds and it makes me feel normal.
Theo is the best at explaining this to Joe. I relate to Joe who has, in the past, had a very hard time understanding BUT has come to see that there truly are people that must medicate to allow themselves to take the best care of themselves
Joe is like that supportive cool uncle that i never knew i needed but i watch him on youtube rather than hangout in real life. His clips always bring me entertainment, knowledge and even in this one a little bit of peace of mind seeing as he understands how messed up anxiety and things of that nature can be. I swear these videos are like a therapy session sometimes. Thank you for having this platform and being such an awesome guy Joe 🙏❤️. I can imagine a friendship with you would be extraordinary
Thank you to both of yall! Theo hit this on the nail. Im 2 months off my ssri and im struggling hard. Ive been exercising and working hard but it doesn't get me to where i feel "normal". I hate taking meds but im struggling after my wife passed. Maybe i should go back to my dr and start taking paxil again. It definitely helps me i just start feeling better and think i dont need it. Again, thank both of yall.
This conversation is so real, so relatable, so intriguing and so raw. I linked this to my wife to point to exactly how I feel in some situations and SSRI. I've been taking the same as Theo for the last 6 years and I find it near impossible to taper off. It's really great to hear such an authentic point of view and to know that I'm not the only one that is dealing with this. I mean, I know I'm not, but hearing him talk about it in so much detail that mirrors my feelings in such intricate detail, it was really an "uh huh!" moment for me. 2:18 resonated with me to the core. Thank you very much for sharing Theo.
I’ve never done ayahuasca, but shrooms made me go from being suicidal to being straight up happy. I take them every 2-3 months, and they’re generally much more effective than SSRIS for my depression. They also are the best drug I’ve ever taken for migraine prevention, and I’ve tried everything from anti-seizure meds to Botox. It’s amazing how effective certain psychedelics can be for an array of medical issues
@VTComps... Daily migraines, just moved to a place I knew no one, bad marriage, wasn’t working due to trying to get disability so I basically had no life, and I already had chronic depression beforehand. So yeah, life sucked.
Thank you Joe and Theo just hearing you guys kick it and talk helps alot of us escape reality for just a minute and lets is know we aren't the only ones feeling some type of way. Much love 🍻
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
The good thing about LSD is its non addictive, the best experience I've EVER had on ANY drug was LSD, I've been so happy my face literally hurt from smiling so much for so many hours, but but once the trip wears off the last thing I'm thinking about is dropping another trip, you need time to recover, the closest I'd ever had trips together were a week apart but usuallv months or years, having said that it's been 10yrs since the last time but certainly would again given the right time and setting
One of my best experiences in my life was doing lsd and writing a paper on my interpretation of God and how the universe works, it was amazing and i got an A in the college class of comparative religion
Sometimes we feel like we're alone in our struggles but then you talk to people and find out that we all struggle. I think it's really important for Joe and Theo to talk about these things so people can realize they're not alone.
I’m Always depressed and have anxiety and I’m on prescription but it doesn’t work. I know that eating well and exercising helps! But just getting started is so hard having a full time job and 5 kids at home. Biggest thing I struggle with is coming home late from work and having dinner ready!
Got diagnosed by the VA during rehabilitation with PTSD, ADHD, Bipolar 1, manic depression, suicidal ideation, anxiety, sleep disorder, and substance use disorder. As someone like this I can relate to Theo in so many ways. Theo is a badass man. Love that guy.❤
The VA has done more harm to me and other services members than I would’ve ever thought possible. Hope you get the help you need, even if it’s outside of the VA. Bless
Mental health issues can be absolutely genetic. Neural connections are formed through traumatic experiences which literally rewires your brain and gene combinations pass this down. You’ve got a huge nerve running from your brain to your gut, heart and lungs which can heighten emotional responses. I have a Psych degree and been teaching for nearly 20 years and what Theo said about alcoholism and his shirt analogy is fucking profound. You’re a treasure mate 👍
My grandma was always anxious. My parents both didn't suffer from anxiety. I got full on ADHD, panic disorder, and GAD. I train hard and eat right so I am doing way better these days. I get anxious feelings, but I am able to get through them quickly now.
I’m really happy to hear Rogan a lot more open minded on this stuff. I’ve started taking SSRIs and was very hesitant mainly due to the stigma around it. I want to be tougher and be able to be proactive in taking care of my mental health, but when you’re really in a rut it’s hard to gain motivation to do anything. I’ve already noticed a huge difference in my outlook on life and feel a lot better equipped moving forward to take care of myself, not allow myself to overthink too much etc. I’m on a low dose so hopefully I can stop taking them at some point and move forward with a better mindset.
I was on generic prozac, I can say that it does work. The short time I was on it, I noticed that the small things didn’t bother me. Stayed on for a year then decided to wean off. I didn’t feel it was right to be on medication. I can definitely get behind genetics and environment playing a role in bringing out anxiety. My mom is definitely why I am the way I am. But I love her and recognize it wasn’t on purpose. I too use exercise as a way to stay in check.
Mental Health is REAL! I like when Joe has guests on that discuss mental health, from his friends to former or active military. It needs to be talked about more.
SSRI's and sports (specifically running or BJJ, but anything really), are a great combination. The sports help take away all the bad energies and anger, and the SSRI just helps getting through the day/weekend without contantly thinking about something stupid you did at work, or some presentation you have on Monday. That was spot on.
What I have found is that people who are highly intelligent, and ate “thinkers” tend to deal more with anxiety/depression. Sometimes when you try to find an answer to a problem that basically has no solution, it causes anxiety. That prolonged anxiety then leads to depression. Been there done that unfortunately.. I agree that beyond genetics it can be a learned response from your parents actions in dealing with their problems.
Those ssri's are rough. First week is like hell. I always have the worst insomnia and get really paranoid and grumpy until they are fully in your system. I never liked that part because I felt like a different person and like another whole part of myself was shut down. THEO you are so awesome! You're always so unexpected.
I’ve dealt with Anxiety my whole life, it’s a horrible thing to live with. You have to calm your triggers, working out , cold showers, meditating , and journal seems to be a bandaid on the anxiety .
Anxiety, from my personal experience, is not something you get rid of. It's something you learn to mitigate and live with but it will always be there. I've gotten panic attacks where the trigger was the idea that it's possible for me to have a panic attack. Once you have one you're more likely to have another. It's a never ending cycle. Learning coping strategies is your best defense against them. Getting diagnosed with them was a great thing for me because I learned that I wasn't in fact dying and was actually dealing with something that thousands upon thousands of people deal with everyday. Having the ability to go "I'm having a panic attack right now, let's just get through this and it will eventually stop" is a great tool to have in your toolbox in the fight against anxiety.
For many mental disorders e.g anxiety, it has a lot to do with the individual’s environment as-well as genetics. Meaning, if your family has a long line of anxiety, you’re likely to develop it IF your environment exposes you to anxiety inducing scenarios.
The conversations between you and Theo and you and Duncan make me feel so good fr. Man I relate with Theo so hard in this clip. Most of the time its something happy that will put me into a deep sadness idk why but man its terrifying how quick you can flip. Aye do a show with both Theo and Duncan at once. Bet the chemistry is litty. Just gave myself my 100th tattoo to try to get out of a bad funk, tattood "Sad" on my forehead but I forgot that shit in a mirror is backwards haha it didn't help until I noticed it was backwards
When Theo talks about his internal battle when he is off his SSRIs, it really sucks, but that's a side effect of withdrawal from the SSRIs that takes months to years to subside. They're so hard to get off. Just like cigarette withdrawal makes you anxious and angry, SSRI withdrawal makes you feel super depressed.
“If someone’s always tickling you, you’re always going to feel tickled. Even if they are tickling you with words” -Theo Von Truer, deeper, funnier words have never been spoken. Love you Theo ❤
Man, I really needed to hear this. Theo is awesome. His descriptions of some things are right on. I should get back on meds for the same reasons he said. Joe is always awesome as well.
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Anxiety is horrible you feel shortness of breath when in a room with a few people , your heartbeat increases , leg starts shaking, you cant look people in their eye when communicating with them
see I feel a battle everyday but I truly refuse to take medicine to cope with whatever I’m dealing with? I don’t know if I’m wrong and I don’t want to waste time and my health trying to find out
I used to take lexapro for depression, suicidal ideation, then quetiapine for substance abuse depressive disorder. Those drops in emotion, sudden rage and drastic changes like that started because I tried to stop the meds. But I continued being off of them and stood that way cause I realized it was making it worse than before I took them, while I was on them daily though, I felt like happy but for no reason. Then I started doing shrooms the correct way and man was that the best decision I could have taken (not encouraging people to take them, it’s my experience) but yea the difference being that shrooms made me understand and see the ‘why’ I was in a bad mental space, and made me see it in a different light. I’m now off of the things that made me the worse version of myself
SSRIs made me comfortable with living a shltty, sad, depressing, life . SSRIs are a bandaid fix to anxiety and depression and should be last resort after lifestyle change, therapy, exercise, and other ways of natural healing. Shrooms should be prescribed for depression and anxiety not these pills that can make you fat and content with being a depressed bum. Great comment man
@@spencerrichmond5845 Been on them for years and they've drastically improved my productivity and general state of mind. Yes, you still need discipline to workout and eat healthy along with the SSRIs. It's important to improve your general health and circumstances to your best abilities, and I was able to do this due to a baseline "levelling" from the pills. I do not hit the dramatic lows I did before I took them. These pills do not work for everyone, though. To the OP: Make sure you're tapering off this medication correctly. Any attempt to stop "cold turkey" may shock the system and contribute to the mood swings you've been experiencing.
Sometimes I think people are taking videos when they have there phone points my way and people talk to me to see what I smell like and hear conversations think people are talking about me but there really not
Psychedelic's definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it's just so hard to source here
Psychedelics are the reason why i didn't take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I'm doing better everyday
Loved this. I battle from depression, anxiety & C-PTSD, I've heard shrooms cured depression. Wish doctors were more open to natural medicines over big pharma but we know why..
i see a lot of influencers doing ayahuasca, and having great results with it. where can a normal mid-low class guy like me access that connection to the source? i've seen many accounts but, really would love to have my own experience. i wish we lived in a world where we all had access to that level of healing.
Brother if u r serious about it then lemme tell u.. u can make dmt crystals at ur home..the tutorials r all over the internet...but for ayahuasca u will have to travel...same with shrooms order spores online then grow them urself....
wow its been a long time since I've seen Joe come around to something like this. I think hustling and working out are very helpful to mental health. But my brains dopamine system is off. I put off taking medication for years, and blamed myself for not being hard enough, which in turn made me more depressed and then I'd stop working out and it was viscous cycle.
I love Theo! He is so authentic and endearing. Zoloft is simply Teflon in a pill for the hyper sensitive. My brother was a casualty of an NPD mother. Not due to genetics but trauma since infancy....I was there. As an infant I was farmed off to my mother's patient parents which saved me. Trauma and abuse will damage any soul.
I think us sufferers of depression have been traumatised too much in life and can’t find a way to get any comfort. If people have hurt you, you stop seeking their embrace and genuine love is important for survival. Plus the world is a total shit show right now. Just do your best and be kind to yourself and others. ❤
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I'm pretty sure I have anxiety. Because when I wake up thats when I feel weird and in some situations I just feel weird. But I remember watching this video of Alex Hormozi wife (Leila) and she said that she woke up with all of these feelings (anxiety, doubt etc) but she ignored them and went on with her day. After I watched that video that shift my whole perspective. I genuinely try in lifet. I try to be the best dad, best man, employee, business owner, I try on my fitness and everything. As long as I'm trying in life I ignore my negative thoughts and feelings and move on. I just use pure logic to get through my days and not how I "feel"
Same brother i use similar technique where i tell myself that this is what u r feeling inside ur head but reality is still what it was days ago when u were happy so there is no point in wasting time ruminating just go on with the day...
I'm 1.5 hours in so far and Theo has hit the smelling salts several times, talked about hitting a cigarette last week, how hard it is for him to not vape after quitting a week ago and "let's try that" when Joe mentions some other drug. I've hung around with open mic-ers before and was good friends with an established stand up that Rogan knows well and the scene is not a great place for someone that suffers with addiction. Theo seems like such a caring person and I feel like he has some major demons that won't let him escape. Hope he can survive them.
@@Joe-sg9ll Not all successful people have addictive personalities. I would say minority of them are because its quite a feat to have mental illness, because thats what it is, and succeed at anything.
I would say get off his back but talking about sobriety on his show so much is bound to attract you judgemental people. Look no one cares what you do or dont put in your body, making it your main personality trait is annoying to everyone. Just stop. Plus at LEAST half you hypocrites still live on caffiene, sugars, and porn/tv/video game addictions.
@@Joe-sg9ll Not really. Comedy is last place in showbis for a narcissist since you are exposed to direct criticism. Joe managed since he has a podcast but look at his pal Brendan, another narc, he was torn to shreds by the public.
@@Joe-sg9ll Yeah but not all comedians are on SSRIs man. Bill Burr, Louis CK both masterful comedians, both had traumas in their childhood as we all do but neither is on SSRIs nor a narcissist. Its clear Theo had some bad stuff and Joe Rogan. You have very shallow understanding of narcissism and you think every person in a spotlight is there because they are narcissists which simply isnt true.
@@Joe-sg9ll My parents are narcissists too so I am a bad person? Narcissism is a buzz word thats being thrown around but proper NPD is not. I dont have it because I didnt have any major trauma in my childhood but siblings did and they have it. I know all about this stuff. Bottom line is, people with NPD are represented in all walks of life, it doesnt guarantee success in anything quite contrary the people I know who have it are quite unsuccesful in their lives like really poor jobs, no powet or authority but they crave it and they exude as much power over others as they possibly can, they take whatever adoration and respect they can draw in because they so desparately need it.
My doctor prescribed me Xoloft over a year ago and even he didn’t sound super convinced it would fix my issues. After 8 months it was ok but still lots of trade offs and insomnia. I stopped taking them and tried mushrooms, I micro dose regularly and macro dose every few weeks. No more prescriptions, I feel amazing. I had a follow up with my doctor after a year to see if my mental health improved since it was covered by insurance. I told my dr I stopped the prescriptions and turned to shrooms. He was actually happy and told me his thesis was on psilocybin and mental health. He supported me doing shrooms which is not what I was expecting.
Wow didnt know Theo was on SSRIs. I'm on them too and it just numbs me out. It does help me to halt overthinking, but if youre not doing things outside of SSRIs, itll just put you to sleep. Exercise has been very helpful. Theo's honesty ❤
as much as Theo jokes around, when he is emotional and thorough with his thoughts he is the most relatable person on the planet
He jokes around? Almost like he's a comedian.
@@Esteem_Boat_Willywho hurt you?
@@natedyton61 ? Who said that? He’s just dumb.
He expresses himself through his jokes.
I'm over three years sober and his analogy about alcoholics is correct.
I could remember several years ago, I suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Was actually diagnosed with cptsd. Not until my wife recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. This is something that really need to be use globally to help people with related health challenges.
Congrats on your recovery. Most persons never realizes psilocybin can be used as a miracle medication to save lives. Years back i wrote an entire essay about psychedelics. they saved you from death bud, lets be honest here.
YES very sure of Dr.alishrooms. I have the same experience with anxiety, depression, PTSD and addiction and Mushrooms definitely made a huge huge difference to why am clean today.
How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta
I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.
I was horrifically depressed since childhood. It was relentless. I assumed it would ultimately end me somehow. About twelve years ago I randomly accepted the offer from a friend of a few doses of mushrooms. I did them two consecutive nights alone. First night was pretty mild. The second night? Wow. I saw my depression from every angle, realized much. Next day: depression totally gone. Never came back, never coming back. It's like it's a forest far away I can remember, and could probably find again with enough effort, but it has zero impact on anything in my life or mind. They honestly saved my life and improved it immensely. I never did them again, either. I wish there was a good, organized way to administer them to people who would benefit from them.
One of my favorite sayings about mental health and specifically anxiety is: Genetics load the gun and environment pulls the trigger. You can can be predisposed to mental health battles but grow up in a healthy atmosphere and never experience these issues. On the other hand grow up in chaos and you’re likely to manifest some sort mental health issues. Take care of your children folks…love them, support them give them the tools that you didn’t have. Glad Joe and Theo addressed this topic, it is often swept under the rug.
Very true what you are saying. I got the bad end of the stick so I know for a fact what you are saying is true. P.S like you said love your kids. Teach your kids.
I will never put my children on mental health meds.
@@johnylalrina1451 good for them . Teach them to be energetic and do sports and eat healthy
@@horace8731
Same goes for me.
Hear, hear.
It’s crazy because the majority of people like him who are suffering are genuinely some of the most unique and amazing people to be around. ❤ Stay strong 💪 brotha.
It's really hard to start exercise but once you do it's something to look forward to every day/week and the improvements are noticeable thought not super significant at first
Compliment accepted. Thanks bud.
@Jim big facts before i went to mexico i probably lost atleast 10 pounds was doing 300 situps a day and atleast 150 push ups a day along with atleast 100 reps with weights and riding one of those weight wheel bikes for 30 minutes, then went to mexico for 4 days and i didnt work out the entire time and didn't continue when i got back cause i was already feeling great, cant imagine what id look like if i kept up with that routine know i wouldnt be 300 pounds with a beer belly lol
It's that way by design. Sheep running society = profit
If they only knew.
Love when Theo gets real - helps people going thru similar shit
Word
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This for real helped me because I was worried I was the only one that had this same issue with my antidepressant and also thought I was just a pussy for a while and couldnt handle sobriety. I went off antidepressants for 3 years and ended up going back on them after getting PTSD. I think If I hadnt have gotten PTSD i might have been able to stay sober its a shame how fragile we can be as humans because otherwise im the strongest person I know and I know people dont give me or others the credit they deserve. Long story short Theo is a real one for this. Love this man
Real tlk
so glad theo went on JRE again. we need this twice a year
Wake up bro. Theo is the last person we need to hear more from right now
@@maxwelljacobfreedom why is that? i don’t mean politically
@@maxwelljacobfreedom WRONG
@@maxwelljacobfreedom would you like to elaborate?
What line of thought brought you into that conclusion?
EDIT: Never mind I just went to your page….that train derailed a LONG fuckin time ago.
They are like the two uncles you never see but when you do you laugh your ass off
Eh, Joe doesn't really make me laugh.
I don’t know if joe isn’t witty enough to catch Theo’s jokes or he purposely overlooks them but it’s kind of cringe
@@kingofoblivion1822 they’re just having a conversation, nothing too cringey
@@kingofoblivion1822 ''everything is cringe'' zzzzzz
These conversations are so important. Thank you Joe and Theo.
"Mother Nature has a weiner, man!"
I agree with Theo that anxious parents pass it to their child, and it doesn't even need to be a genetic thing.
That would be (and actually has been) way easier to prove compared to any genetic links to anxiety disorders
Very true. My father was a germaphobe and always paranoid. So am I.
Dude my mom went through some heavy heavy trauma while she was pregnant and i have THE worst anxiety, i worry so much just how she does and i fight the feeling cause i know thats now what i want to feel, oh man it sucks dude
@@m.a.c7420 My experience can be described in near identical terms. I feel you.
Jordan Peterson describes the mechanics of this dynamic quite well, and it seems very plausible
As an older adult, I learned a valuable lesson. I saw this in myself and many others. If you are faced with a problem that you don't know how to solve and don't have the tools or knowledge to solve it, you will become anxious. If you stay in that situation day after day, you will be trained to immediately become anxious. Think of a teacher demanding homework or testing on subjects that weren't properly taught. Or a boss or client who are unable to explain their needs but will hold you responsible anyway. Once in a while, it happens, but if it's every day, you have to change the dynamic. Get away if you can't fix it. This isn't good for you long term.
Really glad to hear Joe say he has another perspective on depression now. Heard him so many times say "Just get up and workout and you'll be fine". Paraphrasing but to that effect. Appreciate him recognising the truth about true mental illness.
People tend to forget were supposed to active. No one is meant to be sitting on a couch. Unless of course. But our bodies are wired to move and think.. when you break it down, all of us are supposed to be in shape or somewhat fit. And I mean all of us
I've never been diagnosed but I clearly have constant anxiety. And it makes sense when I'm told stories after my mom passed in 2021. Being smuggled into a country at night on a boat, doesn't help. My mom lived with anxiety all the time. It's so obvious now. She was always on the move, couldn't stay still, had to be doing SOMETHING all the time. She hated staying home too. She would push me and my brother so much. Eventually my brother started studying medicine and shit and was telling my mom what she was dealing with and to see a doctor.
She tried to change but ultimately stayed in her ways until the end. Love her so much. Best person I've ever known, hands down. Best mother I could've hoped for. But yeah, she passed down this anxiety.
I'm always thinking too much and it lead to being diagnosed with depression, taking meds, etc. No wonder I can't stand still either. Boredom gives me anxiety.
Same boat. I have to exercise for hours a day. Been an athlete my whole life. Loved gym class but always had anxiety from as early as I can remember. Exercise and intense breathing is what helps me
Haven't taken any meds but I know for a fact that I have either depression or bipolar..or both. It helps to talk to someone...but you gotta get over that weird feeling to talking to someone. I feel like this is me just talking to myself...but I really hope everyone that reads this feels amazing about themselves. You're all you got.
For some reason you are experiencing anxiety. You seem unsure as to why. I hope to elucidate. You chose stressful words as descriptors. Your mind creates it for you, and mine for me as well. Your mind creates whatever you expect it to. It's a prison and/or a palace, a prisoner and/or a prince.
Its called trans generational Epigenetic inheritance
@@MarcSummersH2O ain't that the truth. Finding that one out late in life.
Man Theo is such an amazing human. Only person in that realm I can relate to.
Never heard of him. What does he do?
@@castello544comedian
@@ayo9057 if you knew anything about him you not only wouldn’t write this but you couldn’t write this logically, he is amazing and you shouldn’t get butt hurt about it just because nobody called you amazing lol
@@ayo9057lol you think that people you tag on youtube owe you anything? GFYS 🤡 Answer it yourself
Ayo clown
Theo hit the nail on the head with his explanation of depression and SSRIs, for me at least! I just switched from Zoloft to Wellbutrin earlier this month (I was having annoying side effects), but an SSRI basically keeps your head above water, and creates a baseline for you. You still have to do the work to maintain your physical health and even your mental health to an extent, but without it, it’s like there’s an anchor tied to your leg that makes it 10x harder to stay afloat.
Be careful of the Wellbutrin, made me pack on weight like crazy
@@landonwoods2408that’s very odd as it’s a stimulant
Welbutrin isnt an SSRI but it sometimes added to them to increase effectiveness
@@landonwoods2408 strange. Weight loss is more common
@@jess_n_atx Oh I know haha. Bupropion is the other name for it; I just wanted to try out something from a different class. I’m just speaking for when I *was taking the Zoloft.
Half the country can relate to taking antidepressants or anti anxiety meds unfortunately. I'm glad Theo opened up.
Just seeing my neighbor on and off of it different weeks, it seemed a lot worse when he was on it. Not a doctor but at some point in your life you didn't need them , like Joe says exercise is a huge factor.. and it's not like "if I feel like exercising" you need to exercise 5 days a week
Half the country could benefit from better diet and exercise. But doctors pump them full of magic beans
1st world problems lol... You're in the best country in the world and you people squander it... Smfh
@@lolivingston6827 you people? I'm enjoying every moment 🤷
Maybe you people shouldn't paint with such a broad brush. 🙂
i had suicidal depression and all mental health disordersand it was extremely painful. probaly more painful than a kidney stone and it was chronic problem. my depression completely went after after doing an elimination diet of meat + bread only. i reintroduced plant foods and still dont have depression.
i believe the trigger was from either hershey special dark chocolate, chocolate milk, or fruit sugar. i was consuming alot of sugar during the time
Anxiety happens when you think you have to figure out everything all at once.
Breathe . You're strong. You got this Take it day by day.
Psilocybin saved my life. I was addicted to heroin for 15 years and after Psilocybin treatment I will be 3 years clean in September. I have zero cravings.
This is something that truly needs to be more broadly used in addiction treatment.
Please does anyone know where I can get them? I put so much on my plate and it really affects my stress and anxiety levels, I would love to try shrooms
Psychedelics saved me from vears of uncontrollable depression, anxiety and illicit pill addiction. imagine carving heavy chains for over a decade and then all of a sudden that burden is gone. Believe it or not in a couple years they'll be all over for treatment of mental health related issues.
Is he on instagram?
Shrooms was the best trip I had. It was an amazing experience.
You guys are helping an amazing number of people, young and older. I'm SOOOO thankful for you both.
We love you Theo stay strong brother.
I was diagnosed with anxiety and depression when I was in my 30s and it makes alot of things make sense for why I was the way I was in my younger years. I've been prescribed medication and sometimes even prescribed medications that would create worse effect when working with one another. Like your guest said , it's like a constant battle throughout the day. I can still do what I have to , but over time it does take alot of confidence to push through. That's why exercising is so important because it gives me a sense of confidence and that would make me narcissistic, but the narcissism is to combat the depression. That's me tho. Thanks for the information. 😁
I’m really glad to hear Theo be so open about his depression and taking meds. As well, to hear that Joe has changed his outlook on mental health disorders from a weakness of character or will and discipline to no longer believing that.
Time and time again I still battle with that belief in my head, that I have depression and anxiety because I’m weak willed or I’m just not doing enough. It’s the shame that comes with this illness , and all it does is prevent you from getting better. Glad to hear Joe has changed his outlook.
I still believe much of depression can be significantly improve by being disciplined, Watch Andrew Huberman podcast on the AMCC region of the brain, it’s the hub for many many neurotransmitters, And it literally gets bigger by engaging in behaviours that take discipline.
Disapline improved my depression significantly, I had force myself to do things i would have rathered not doing.
And no, you’re weak for not having discipline, It’s a learned skill, Just like climbing a mountain is a learned skill, Not being able to climb doesn’t make you less valuable than anyone, It’s okay.
Theo is as real as it gets.
@@millanandrew grow up
@@millanandrew your comment just proved you not Real
@@millanandrew can you not see how real Theo is? Read in between the lines: the jokes are just padding reality. Dudes def got demons he has to face on a daily bases. As do we all.
@@FrankYammy he lies in half of his stories so how is milan wrong. Big fan of Theo but you can see some clips where you can tell he’s making it up as he goes along so if you cant tell you’re either stupid or too young
@@dankrhino can you not see how fake he is?
I really liked the way Theo described his emotional levels/experiences. It felt very honest and relatable.
if there is 1 thing that theo isnt, he isnt a liar. Even if he has to say it in a joking way to take the edge off of what hes saying, he'll always tell you the truth.
It’s important to live in the moment. The past brings depression & the future anxiety.🙏👊
Damn, didn’t even think about it like that. That’s truth.
@@allsaintsarmy8882 you serious? It’s the most corny shit one can say. Though it’s true aF, as a depressed person myself.
It's only one way to look at it. Humans all have such different experiences that this is one valid way to see it out of many. It's important to ask for help when you need it.
@@udhay7920 it’s not corny, it’s easily broken down into what causes depression and anxiety. I needed to hear it.
And present moment brings peace....unless you get hit by a car
Wow. Great clip. Totally know how that feels when you get that drop. Strangely I was the only person in my family who ever had anxiety. I think it’s due to childhood shit. Taken me years to get to a point of managing it as best I can. Still get the odd drop, but mostly good now. Thank you for this clip guys. 🙏❤️
I love episodes like these that shine light on depression and anxiety.
Anxiety made me drop out of school, I didn't know it was anxiety at the time, but every time I was there, I would get super nauseous and would have to run out of class to the bathroom often.
Even till this day, when I'm with my girlfriend I still anxiety vomit often. I'm currently taking anti depressants and anxiety meds and it makes me feel normal.
Theo is the best at explaining this to Joe. I relate to Joe who has, in the past, had a very hard time understanding BUT has come to see that there truly are people that must medicate to allow themselves to take the best care of themselves
Joe is like that supportive cool uncle that i never knew i needed but i watch him on youtube rather than hangout in real life. His clips always bring me entertainment, knowledge and even in this one a little bit of peace of mind seeing as he understands how messed up anxiety and things of that nature can be. I swear these videos are like a therapy session sometimes. Thank you for having this platform and being such an awesome guy Joe 🙏❤️. I can imagine a friendship with you would be extraordinary
Thank you to both of yall! Theo hit this on the nail. Im 2 months off my ssri and im struggling hard. Ive been exercising and working hard but it doesn't get me to where i feel "normal". I hate taking meds but im struggling after my wife passed. Maybe i should go back to my dr and start taking paxil again. It definitely helps me i just start feeling better and think i dont need it. Again, thank both of yall.
🆙☝️You can always order from him, he's legit & reliable,he's got em magic shrooms,LSD,DMT and many more.he helped me get thru alot in my life
This conversation is so real, so relatable, so intriguing and so raw. I linked this to my wife to point to exactly how I feel in some situations and SSRI. I've been taking the same as Theo for the last 6 years and I find it near impossible to taper off. It's really great to hear such an authentic point of view and to know that I'm not the only one that is dealing with this. I mean, I know I'm not, but hearing him talk about it in so much detail that mirrors my feelings in such intricate detail, it was really an "uh huh!" moment for me. 2:18 resonated with me to the core. Thank you very much for sharing Theo.
This guy is amazing. I hope he recovers and continue to flourish! ❤
I’ve never done ayahuasca, but shrooms made me go from being suicidal to being straight up happy. I take them every 2-3 months, and they’re generally much more effective than SSRIS for my depression.
They also are the best drug I’ve ever taken for migraine prevention, and I’ve tried everything from anti-seizure meds to Botox. It’s amazing how effective certain psychedelics can be for an array of medical issues
Im guessing that you have never been depressed, and truly hopeless.
That was for VTComps...
Shrooms make me feel overwhelmingly sad every single time
@VTComps... Daily migraines, just moved to a place I knew no one, bad marriage, wasn’t working due to trying to get disability so I basically had no life, and I already had chronic depression beforehand. So yeah, life sucked.
@VTComps... Yeah lol I’ve learned that. In the process of getting a divorce and feel so relieved.
Thank you Joe and Theo just hearing you guys kick it and talk helps alot of us escape reality for just a minute and lets is know we aren't the only ones feeling some type of way. Much love 🍻
Theo von makes me click faster then any other guest Gang
theo is a very natural conversationalist, and one of those people that makes you feel comfortable while they're talking
I suffer daily. I'm glad more people are coming out about their mental health issues. Makes me not feel so alone.
Me too
Psychedelic’s definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it’s just so hard to source here
(Jon_spore)
Ships psychedelics
@@sarahh321 Where to search?? Is it instagram?
The good thing about LSD is its non addictive, the best experience I've EVER had on ANY drug was LSD, I've been so happy my face literally hurt from smiling so much for so many hours, but but once the trip wears off the last thing I'm thinking about is dropping another trip, you need time to recover, the closest I'd ever had trips together were a week apart but usuallv months or years, having said that it's been 10yrs since the last time but certainly would again given the right time and setting
One of my best experiences in my life was doing lsd and writing a paper on my interpretation of God and how the universe works, it was amazing and i got an A in the college class of comparative religion
@@Jerryberger9235 yeah, He has variety of stuffs like mushrooms, Isd, DMT even the chocolate bars
Always good to listen to these 2
Man I wish Theo and Joe would do a once a week podcast together. Every episode they’ve ever since together is hilarious and heart warming.
Sometimes we feel like we're alone in our struggles but then you talk to people and find out that we all struggle. I think it's really important for Joe and Theo to talk about these things so people can realize they're not alone.
Theo being real about his mental health is just everything. He can be a real jokester but this convo is just 🥰
I literally broke down at work today hit coming home and seeing this reprobate Theo open up makes me so happy! That’s bro!
We need more and more of these conversations
“Have another family ..” I burst out laughing and then the video ends 😢
I really respect Theo's ability to be vulnerable, open and understanding. It's such a good example to men.
I can recommend you to this psyc specialist where I get my stuffs from..
_mycospeed;;;;;;;;
Theo puts into words the feelings that so many of us have. It’s relieving to know he is trying to navigate the waters of SSRI’s too….
🆙☝️You can always order from him, he's legit & reliable,he's got em magic shrooms,LSD,DMT and many more.
I love Theo!!! Never stop being you brother!!! ❤️✨
I’m
Always depressed and have anxiety and I’m on prescription but it doesn’t work. I know that eating well and exercising helps! But just getting started is so hard having a full time job and 5 kids at home. Biggest thing I struggle with is coming home late from work and having dinner ready!
Hell yeah thanks dudes for being so open and honest about the struggles with mental health.
Got diagnosed by the VA during rehabilitation with PTSD, ADHD, Bipolar 1, manic depression, suicidal ideation, anxiety, sleep disorder, and substance use disorder. As someone like this I can relate to Theo in so many ways. Theo is a badass man. Love that guy.❤
Stay strong man🤟
What has helped you, brother?
I'm going through the exact same thing.
Seems the battle never eases up, whatever I do to combat it.
The VA has done more harm to me and other services members than I would’ve ever thought possible. Hope you get the help you need, even if it’s outside of the VA. Bless
Damn bruh try a heroic dose of psilocybin (Or MDMA under a physicians care)
@@VintageClips316 will do man. Thank you
Mental health issues can be absolutely genetic.
Neural connections are formed through traumatic experiences which literally rewires your brain and gene combinations pass this down.
You’ve got a huge nerve running from your brain to your gut, heart and lungs which can heighten emotional responses.
I have a Psych degree and been teaching for nearly 20 years and what Theo said about alcoholism and his shirt analogy is fucking profound.
You’re a treasure mate 👍
My grandma was always anxious. My parents both didn't suffer from anxiety. I got full on ADHD, panic disorder, and GAD. I train hard and eat right so I am doing way better these days. I get anxious feelings, but I am able to get through them quickly now.
I’m really happy to hear Rogan a lot more open minded on this stuff. I’ve started taking SSRIs and was very hesitant mainly due to the stigma around it. I want to be tougher and be able to be proactive in taking care of my mental health, but when you’re really in a rut it’s hard to gain motivation to do anything. I’ve already noticed a huge difference in my outlook on life and feel a lot better equipped moving forward to take care of myself, not allow myself to overthink too much etc. I’m on a low dose so hopefully I can stop taking them at some point and move forward with a better mindset.
How was it
I was on generic prozac, I can say that it does work. The short time I was on it, I noticed that the small things didn’t bother me. Stayed on for a year then decided to wean off. I didn’t feel it was right to be on medication.
I can definitely get behind genetics and environment playing a role in bringing out anxiety. My mom is definitely why I am the way I am. But I love her and recognize it wasn’t on purpose. I too use exercise as a way to stay in check.
So you only needed to be on it a year and after you were ok? How long did it take for you to wean off? Did you have any side effects?
Mental Health is REAL! I like when Joe has guests on that discuss mental health, from his friends to former or active military. It needs to be talked about more.
SSRI's and sports (specifically running or BJJ, but anything really), are a great combination. The sports help take away all the bad energies and anger, and the SSRI just helps getting through the day/weekend without contantly thinking about something stupid you did at work, or some presentation you have on Monday. That was spot on.
Joe out here low key saving ppl and being our therapist. God bless and GANG GANG 🤘🏽
What I have found is that people who are highly intelligent, and ate “thinkers” tend to deal more with anxiety/depression. Sometimes when you try to find an answer to a problem that basically has no solution, it causes anxiety. That prolonged anxiety then leads to depression. Been there done that unfortunately.. I agree that beyond genetics it can be a learned response from your parents actions in dealing with their problems.
Theo is so likeable. How could anyone dislike him?
Those ssri's are rough. First week is like hell. I always have the worst insomnia and get really paranoid and grumpy until they are fully in your system. I never liked that part because I felt like a different person and like another whole part of myself was shut down.
THEO you are so awesome! You're always so unexpected.
great convo
I’ve dealt with Anxiety my whole life, it’s a horrible thing to live with. You have to calm your triggers, working out , cold showers, meditating , and journal seems to be a bandaid on the anxiety .
It seems silly, but I've seen vitamin B1 help many people. I hope it might help you on your journey.
Same here, I’ve come to the conclusion it isn’t me, it’s the way our society works that makes me sick, it just doesn’t fit me
Anxiety, from my personal experience, is not something you get rid of. It's something you learn to mitigate and live with but it will always be there. I've gotten panic attacks where the trigger was the idea that it's possible for me to have a panic attack. Once you have one you're more likely to have another. It's a never ending cycle. Learning coping strategies is your best defense against them. Getting diagnosed with them was a great thing for me because I learned that I wasn't in fact dying and was actually dealing with something that thousands upon thousands of people deal with everyday. Having the ability to go "I'm having a panic attack right now, let's just get through this and it will eventually stop" is a great tool to have in your toolbox in the fight against anxiety.
@@Kramerica962 you nailed it to the T!
Lol ending on “have another family” is wild 😂
These two were ON POINT for this one! One of the funniest podcasts to date!
These two together... just made my day 😂
That battle he talks of is something I think WE ALL feel. That's nature brother, the nature of good Vs evil.
For many mental disorders e.g anxiety, it has a lot to do with the individual’s environment as-well as genetics. Meaning, if your family has a long line of anxiety, you’re likely to develop it IF your environment exposes you to anxiety inducing scenarios.
Yeap, happened to me unfortunately
Thanks for your honesty. Especially Theo.
The conversations between you and Theo and you and Duncan make me feel so good fr. Man I relate with Theo so hard in this clip. Most of the time its something happy that will put me into a deep sadness idk why but man its terrifying how quick you can flip. Aye do a show with both Theo and Duncan at once. Bet the chemistry is litty. Just gave myself my 100th tattoo to try to get out of a bad funk, tattood "Sad" on my forehead but I forgot that shit in a mirror is backwards haha it didn't help until I noticed it was backwards
Lol Duncans 1st name is my last name btw
When Theo talks about his internal battle when he is off his SSRIs, it really sucks, but that's a side effect of withdrawal from the SSRIs that takes months to years to subside. They're so hard to get off. Just like cigarette withdrawal makes you anxious and angry, SSRI withdrawal makes you feel super depressed.
🆙☝️You can always order from him, he's legit & reliable,he's got em magic shrooms,LSD,DMT and many more.
“If someone’s always tickling you, you’re always going to feel tickled. Even if they are tickling you with words”
-Theo Von
Truer, deeper, funnier words have never been spoken. Love you Theo ❤
Man, I really needed to hear this. Theo is awesome. His descriptions of some things are right on. I should get back on meds for the same reasons he said. Joe is always awesome as well.
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Lots of Ayahuasca ceremonies didn’t to be blunt help me….moving out of a moldy house was enlightening tho
These two have such a strange, powerful, awkward chemistry
I hope everyone who’s going through anything is doing well ❤
As someone who takes ssris for years, I can really relate to Theo on this
Anxiety is horrible you feel shortness of breath when in a room with a few people , your heartbeat increases , leg starts shaking, you cant look people in their eye when communicating with them
Yeap it sucks! 😔
Two genuine guys. Thank you Joe and Theo for everything you guys do! ❤
see I feel a battle everyday but I truly refuse to take medicine to cope with whatever I’m dealing with? I don’t know if I’m wrong and I don’t want to waste time and my health trying to find out
@elijahdick5049 What's the legal status on buying it tho?? Could someone order it to Australia without getting in trouble?...
@elijahdick5049 That's cool, But he in my country??
I used to take lexapro for depression, suicidal ideation, then quetiapine for substance abuse depressive disorder. Those drops in emotion, sudden rage and drastic changes like that started because I tried to stop the meds. But I continued being off of them and stood that way cause I realized it was making it worse than before I took them, while I was on them daily though, I felt like happy but for no reason. Then I started doing shrooms the correct way and man was that the best decision I could have taken (not encouraging people to take them, it’s my experience) but yea the difference being that shrooms made me understand and see the ‘why’ I was in a bad mental space, and made me see it in a different light. I’m now off of the things that made me the worse version of myself
That’s a great story man. I’m glad they helped. Stick with it 👍
SSRIs made me comfortable with living a shltty, sad, depressing, life . SSRIs are a bandaid fix to anxiety and depression and should be last resort after lifestyle change, therapy, exercise, and other ways of natural healing. Shrooms should be prescribed for depression and anxiety not these pills that can make you fat and content with being a depressed bum. Great comment man
@@spencerrichmond5845 Been on them for years and they've drastically improved my productivity and general state of mind. Yes, you still need discipline to workout and eat healthy along with the SSRIs. It's important to improve your general health and circumstances to your best abilities, and I was able to do this due to a baseline "levelling" from the pills. I do not hit the dramatic lows I did before I took them.
These pills do not work for everyone, though.
To the OP: Make sure you're tapering off this medication correctly. Any attempt to stop "cold turkey" may shock the system and contribute to the mood swings you've been experiencing.
Sometimes I think people are taking videos when they have there phone points my way and people talk to me to see what I smell like and hear conversations think people are talking about me but there really not
Great interview!
good insight from u Joe about ur previous views
Psychedelic's definitely have potential to deal with mental health symptoms like anxiety and depression, I would like to try them again but it's just so hard to source here
Psychedelics are the reason why i didn't take my life when i was at my end. I was stripped of my ego and saw the beauty of life and interconnectivity and even though i still battle anxiety and depression, I'm doing better everyday
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@@Stephanie56739
how can I reach out?
On IG?
Loved this. I battle from depression, anxiety & C-PTSD, I've heard shrooms cured depression. Wish doctors were more open to natural medicines over big pharma but we know why..
@@ONVODKI-ON-IG Yeah, he has variety of stuffs like mushrooms, Isd, DMT even the chocolate bars
Theo comes up with such great analogies.
I don’t listen to Theo’s comedy but I appreciate how he’s so forthcoming when discussing his mental health.
i see a lot of influencers doing ayahuasca, and having great results with it. where can a normal mid-low class guy like me access that connection to the source? i've seen many accounts but, really would love to have my own experience. i wish we lived in a world where we all had access to that level of healing.
It’s coming man, the old phucks are almost gone, hang in there 👍
Do mushrooms, especially in a high dose will have dmt like experience, which dmt is the main psychedelic in ayahuasca
Brother if u r serious about it then lemme tell u.. u can make dmt crystals at ur home..the tutorials r all over the internet...but for ayahuasca u will have to travel...same with shrooms order spores online then grow them urself....
I feel what Theo is saying, I'm living it too. Everyday is a battle...
Me too.
Head up!
me too buddy , me too , I thought at first that because I was lonely , but even after finding love , darkness still creep up on me
Life is struggle. If you aren't struggling you aren't living...
@@ron1836 If you are clinically depressed, you aren't living.
wow its been a long time since I've seen Joe come around to something like this. I think hustling and working out are very helpful to mental health. But my brains dopamine system is off. I put off taking medication for years, and blamed myself for not being hard enough, which in turn made me more depressed and then I'd stop working out and it was viscous cycle.
I love Theo! He is so authentic and endearing. Zoloft is simply Teflon in a pill for the hyper sensitive. My brother was a casualty of an NPD mother. Not due to genetics but trauma since infancy....I was there. As an infant I was farmed off to my mother's patient parents which saved me. Trauma and abuse will damage any soul.
Micro dosing is absolutely amazing!!
Let's goooo with that hitter booyysss!!!
Great topic and guest!
i feel exactly the same as Theo, u aint alone keep ur head up fam
”have another family” Lmao god bless Theo!
I think us sufferers of depression have been traumatised too much in life and can’t find a way to get any comfort. If people have hurt you, you stop seeking their embrace and genuine love is important for survival. Plus the world is a total shit show right now. Just do your best and be kind to yourself and others. ❤
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Thank you Theo for the honesty.
Were all struggling with something. Why it's so important to be kind to each other.
I'm pretty sure I have anxiety. Because when I wake up thats when I feel weird and in some situations I just feel weird.
But I remember watching this video of Alex Hormozi wife (Leila) and she said that she woke up with all of these feelings (anxiety, doubt etc) but she ignored them and went on with her day.
After I watched that video that shift my whole perspective. I genuinely try in lifet. I try to be the best dad, best man, employee, business owner, I try on my fitness and everything.
As long as I'm trying in life I ignore my negative thoughts and feelings and move on.
I just use pure logic to get through my days and not how I "feel"
Same brother i use similar technique where i tell myself that this is what u r feeling inside ur head but reality is still what it was days ago when u were happy so there is no point in wasting time ruminating just go on with the day...
I'm 1.5 hours in so far and Theo has hit the smelling salts several times, talked about hitting a cigarette last week, how hard it is for him to not vape after quitting a week ago and "let's try that" when Joe mentions some other drug. I've hung around with open mic-ers before and was good friends with an established stand up that Rogan knows well and the scene is not a great place for someone that suffers with addiction. Theo seems like such a caring person and I feel like he has some major demons that won't let him escape. Hope he can survive them.
@@Joe-sg9ll Not all successful people have addictive personalities. I would say minority of them are because its quite a feat to have mental illness, because thats what it is, and succeed at anything.
I would say get off his back but talking about sobriety on his show so much is bound to attract you judgemental people. Look no one cares what you do or dont put in your body, making it your main personality trait is annoying to everyone. Just stop. Plus at LEAST half you hypocrites still live on caffiene, sugars, and porn/tv/video game addictions.
@@Joe-sg9ll Not really. Comedy is last place in showbis for a narcissist since you are exposed to direct criticism. Joe managed since he has a podcast but look at his pal Brendan, another narc, he was torn to shreds by the public.
@@Joe-sg9ll Yeah but not all comedians are on SSRIs man. Bill Burr, Louis CK both masterful comedians, both had traumas in their childhood as we all do but neither is on SSRIs nor a narcissist. Its clear Theo had some bad stuff and Joe Rogan. You have very shallow understanding of narcissism and you think every person in a spotlight is there because they are narcissists which simply isnt true.
@@Joe-sg9ll My parents are narcissists too so I am a bad person? Narcissism is a buzz word thats being thrown around but proper NPD is not. I dont have it because I didnt have any major trauma in my childhood but siblings did and they have it. I know all about this stuff. Bottom line is, people with NPD are represented in all walks of life, it doesnt guarantee success in anything quite contrary the people I know who have it are quite unsuccesful in their lives like really poor jobs, no powet or authority but they crave it and they exude as much power over others as they possibly can, they take whatever adoration and respect they can draw in because they so desparately need it.
My doctor prescribed me Xoloft over a year ago and even he didn’t sound super convinced it would fix my issues. After 8 months it was ok but still lots of trade offs and insomnia. I stopped taking them and tried mushrooms, I micro dose regularly and macro dose every few weeks. No more prescriptions, I feel amazing. I had a follow up with my doctor after a year to see if my mental health improved since it was covered by insurance. I told my dr I stopped the prescriptions and turned to shrooms. He was actually happy and told me his thesis was on psilocybin and mental health. He supported me doing shrooms which is not what I was expecting.
Wow didnt know Theo was on SSRIs. I'm on them too and it just numbs me out. It does help me to halt overthinking, but if youre not doing things outside of SSRIs, itll just put you to sleep. Exercise has been very helpful. Theo's honesty ❤