Val Nichushkin's suspension has DEMORALIZED the Avalanche
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2024
- DNVR Colorado Avalanche writer Meghan Angley joins the show to discuss Valeri Nichushkin's suspension and how it has impacted the Avs' Stanley Cup aspirations amidst their battle with the Dallas Stars.
Join DJ Bean and Pete Blackburn for all that and more on another episode of What Chaos! presented by the ALLCITY Network!
0:00 Impact of Nichushkin suspension
01:27 Teammate responses
06:13 Immediate impact on Game 4
07:36 Is there still hope for Avs?
12:00 Georgiev's battle
15:08 Gabe Landeskog return?
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As a Stars fan, I’m glad to hear Avs fans/faculty aren’t using Val’s decisions as an excuse for the current deficit in the series. With that said, as someone who’s struggled with addiction, I hope nothing but the best for Val and hope the best for him. At the end of the day, we’re talking about a human being who struggles with something that many other people struggle with every day.
Yea cant use it as an excuses, I'm so glad our coach was blunt about that. We all get it we do for the most part but these guys wanna win and they get paid big bucks to do so. Nut up or shut up boys! If you cant give Dallas a run for their money you ain't gonna make it to the cup. Dare I say now days... ait over till the fat lady sings? lol Stars... boy you have a great team. You literally have made me hate watching the games. So thanks lol
Grade A guest
Correction: That's some Grade AAA meat right there 😍😋
When is Altitude going to hire Meghan? Shes legit.
Katie Gaus is already the woman representative over at Altitude Sports Network. Only one woman per sports Network. Ahahahaha
@@ras2010able No i know that and I love Katie as well. Its just how many girls have we gone thru in like 5 years? A lot 3-5 seems like every two years we get a new one. Would be nice to have a local gal who lives and grew up in the community. BUT don't fire Katie we love her too! lol
she is a real pro. Somebody hire her, she knows her stuff
The owners, the team, the fans all have paid a price, but the one person who has paid the most is Val himself. No one knows why he is self-medicating. At this point, he has been given every chance, and he let everyone down. He can't have others depending on him, telling them to trust him and not follow through. I pray he finds his way out of this circle that so many addicts face. Having so much money makes it so much harder to Just Say No. My guitar player once said to me, if we would have made big I would probably be dead. I tried a lifetime to help him but could never find the key to free him from himself.
100% What I'm feeling. Great perspective from Meghan
As with any addiction or struggle, when the pressure is on in life, whether professionally or personally, the coping and medicating takes over.
Good luck to Val and I hope he gets the help he needs. The more sinister enemy here are our emotions in general. Not just substance or drug abuse; those are just an easy go to so we feel better. We look at substance addicts and assume we are ok if we don't have those drugs or alcohol abuse problems. Plenty of us NON-substance abusers have "emotional addictions" that waste/destroy years and decades of our lives just like drugs or alcohol. We enjoy going to certain places emotionally because it makes us feel good. Even though we see it is NOT good for us. Yet we still do it again and again for the "feeling" or "excitement" or whatever little high we get from "chasing our feelings". If we find ourselves in that group then we should be aware of our bad habits/ behaviors/ "emotional addictions" as well so we can also work to a meaningful recovery. Best wishes Val. Dallas fan.
Best guest, fantastic insights.
I can say I was impressed with Jared Bednar when that slimly reporter asked him how much Val had let down the team. He was not playing that bullshit game of click bait and basically said we care about Val he’s obviously going through something and I hope he can find peace. No matter who you root for that was a class act comment and the perfect answer.
Goergiev stepped up in a HUGE way despite the end of the season that didn't look to promising. The Avs NEED someone, one of their 3 assistant captions, to step up and lead this team. Yeah we lost our goal scorer but the avs still have major players that should be able to find a way to push thru
Great insight.
I think the older guys are speaking the truth because they are not likely to be around when Val comes back in November, not because they feel Val cost them a chance at another Cup. They are doing it so the younger guys don't have to.
Good point.
Meagan is a doll 👍
Gosh, the Avs sure looked demoralized in beating the Stars in Dallas last night…🤣🤣🤣🤣
That girl is a "10" Where I'm from (Alaska) AND she's into hockey?!? 🥰 dreamy
Avs played pretty dang good last night.
Val is an ex Star, as a Stars fan, I only wish him the best.
I think hes still on the Stars.
Avs looked totally demoralized last night 😂
Stars fan here. I have constantly heard a version of the phrase, "Our top guys just aren't performing and if they do...". The call out I have is it's as if they just woke up and decided not to play hard as opposed to the Dallas D shutting them down. This idea that once the avs start performing, they'd be fine, but I think they are performing, Dallas' D is just better. The best game the Avs had was Game 1 and they were down 3 to 0. They came back on a Dallas team that played a game 7 in an incredibly physical series. As the Stars have rested (from a less physical series), they have gotten better and better.
The point is, I don't see this as an "Avs need to play their game," as more of a "The Avs game can't be played bc of Dallas' defense" Just my opinion. We'll see how tonight goes
As an Avs fan I agree, the Stars defense has really shut down our top players. Saying that Cale has had some poor showing in the last few games and that's on him. I saw the Avs best game as Game 3, which although they dominated they still couldn't score enough goals to win. Val has been a scoring machine these playoffs and Toews in an exceptional D-man and partner to Makar, so missing both of them in one game at short notice was a huge gut punch.
Meghan always has amazing insights and reads on what is going on, and very well thought out questions. She is one of the best!
Its 50/50 i think. Stars are pushing Avs into frustration this leads me back to the coaching topic which I know is sensitive. I don't think one thing or person is to blame but what I can tell you as an Avs fan we are skating slow. Slamming sticks on ice in the boards the post all the signs of frustration and its after a missed pass... not a turn over or cause the stars player did some directly at that moment. All I'm saying is a lot of it is self-inflicted. Then the cycle continues and just makes the stars job easier. I kinda hope the Avs wake up for at least one game. I haven't missed a game in years. I watch every second. As much as Dallas is playing well they are getting it easy. Id say you guys saw about 75% of what the Avs can do in game 1. Please Avs just ONE game that's a full 60 lol
@@lesleychisholm9326 IDK the announcers talk about Tanev like he's a shut down god on Mackinnon. Maybe but the goal Mack did score he Dangled Tanev pretty bad. So again our guys just need to wake up make we are making it so easy on them.Yes Dallas is playing well but not like we are making it harder on them. Reg season ill have to look I think we faired well against them.
@@feinded Oh I agree, a lot of the Avs struggles are self inflicted, and that's what's causing them frustration. But give credit to Dallas too for putting the pressure on them to make bad plays.
Sometimes the bounces just don't go your way, which was the case in game 3. If the Avs had won that we'd be in a whole different situation. Game 4 was just a giveaway. They aren't using Val (and Toews) being out as an excuse, but they were stunned for the first half of the game. It clearly shook them up. Now they've had time to process it and IF they can play their game for a full 60 tonight then look out Dallas. They have a lot of pride and they don't want to go out like this. Look what they did last year against Seattle and the team they had then wasn't nearly as strong as this years.
Didn’t she just say that something about Val made her feel weird?
Well the Avs are over it in Game 5
They been "demoralized" all season long. All season been inconsistent and played up and down. Should be no excuse that one player is off the lineup. That happens in the playoffs to a lot of teams. Teams with championship aspirations handle these things and next man up. Here, been atrocious since game 1.
This guy is history in Colorado. It's his third suspension for the same issue. The Judicial System imposed on the public is "Three Strikes & your out".
Enjoy the KHL buddy. Just remember "player assistance" there probably involves digging foxholes in Ukraine.
6:23 He looked unstoppable in round 1, and now we know why. He was "flying high"! The Avs organization should also be held accountable as they knew this since last year and turned a blind eye. Since Nichuskin was literally on some sort of drugs, giving him some sort of an illegal edge while leading the NHL IN scoring with 7 goals in 5 games against Winnipeg! That was completely unfair to the Jets! He was the best player in the entire playoffs during the first round. It's a shame they didn't test him before the 1st round because 2 of their games against Winnipeg would have been losses without him scoring multiple difference making goals. Sucks for Winnipeg, but Dallas gets blessed and will right this wrong in 6 or 7 games.
There's been no evidence, or even allegation, of performance-enhancing drugs, so blaming the Jets defeat on that is groundless at this this point. The Avs scored a pile of goals when he was off the ice as well.
@@hockeyhacker5 PEDs, cocaine, or a different drug, it all can give a rush or a high, which definitely can temporarily enhance his performance. It can be a valid point either way. Especially considering 2 of those games were won because of his goals, he scored. Stats don't lie
@@73Ambassador What's your source? I have only heard alcohol mentioned, and that's not performance-enhancing based on all the games I've played with impaired guys. As for stats don't lie, check out Mark Twain sometime.
I hope the Universe is kinder to you than you deserve. Please try to be a better human than you are currently showing yourself to be.
What evidence exists do you have that the organization turned a blind eye?
This is pathetic and uninformed. Be better.
What's the big deal, Val isn't using performance enhancing drugs, is he?
Was it drugs or PED,s ?
If your postseason run hinges on Val Nichushkin being in the lineup, you were doomed…
Exactly. Tuesday was a mental loss from the first drop of the puck. Nothing fit for them. One of two things are going to happen tomorrow night: 1) The mental shroud will still be in effect and we prepare for next season, OR 2) They find the inner warrior in their souls and beat the hell out of them in the back of the net and on open ice and extend the series. Even if I wasn't an Avalanche fan, I would want to see #2 happen to help them recover some dignity. On one hand I am very sympathetic toward Val's inward beasts dragging his soul down. On the other, you are a millionaire, professional athlete and you put your team first and ask for more help. The question is: Can Val come back. Right now, I am very sus if he does wear an Avs jersey again. By training camps, I might feel different knowing his battle is a daunting stone to push up a hill. Thoughts on that?
I disagree that the postseason run hinges on him being there. However, it is a big loss to the team.
First off, it’s the circumstances surrounding him missing and how sudden it was before game time. If it happened before the start of the series, it wouldn’t be as bad.
Secondly, he was the leading goal scorer and plays a huge role for the Avs, who are a top heavy team. His defense is a big component of how he helps this team.
One of your core players, a team family member, gets suspended because of a horrible reason. Poof, gone. Look at every goal and assist Val had, the team loved him as much as the fans did. It’s not as simple as “it all hinges on Val being there”
@@Emma_2Banks In 4 games the Avs have never led through a period. Val and Toews were in for most of that. Stars depth is as demoralizing as their personnel issues
The PP relied on him in front of the net, L1 relied on his forecheck and hard work...its kind of fucked tbh
It's hard to make excuses. The Avs have a great advantage over any other NHL team at any given moment due to the altitude. Anything less than a conference championship appearance is essentially a failure for this team.
@flounder my guy, if you're denying the science behind altitude advantage over others, especially those that are close to sea level, this argument is pointless.
As a Vegas fan, I'm pretty sure we got Avs number and more. Don't forget the monumental embarrassment we handed you the last time we met in the playoffs. Avs were the president trophy winners, projected to win it all and got beat by an expansion team playing in their 4th year...make it make sense. Also, we are a more successful franchise than the Avs since we began. Not handed 2 out of 3 Stanley cups like ya.
@@flounder even commentators and Avs' fans themselves brag about teams coming to meet them at "aLtITuDe" lol
@@flounderoh, and that last time we met in the playoffs, it wasn't even competitive between us. Even your coach, which I think if damn great, was calling your team out publicly
No they don’t
At end of season they were not consistent
Yes it sucks
But are you going to blame avs not making to finals because of 1 man
Weak sauce
@@prahfetts825 they have the best 2 players in the league and the constant altitude advantage. For the. To perform this way...inexcusable
Sorry, Avs fans don't know the slightest thing about "dark days" and "doing their time." My sympathy is more with the player dealing with heath and mental issues. "Boo hoo, my team didn't go back to back last year and now we might not win it this year either. Only THREE Cups in the past 28 years.😢 Waaah!" Come back and talk to me in 50 years or so.
He lacks character
Delayed karma with the aves, punished for cheating the cap when they won the cup, love to see it
How exactly did they cheat the cap in 2022? Heard folks complain about the Hawks, Lightning and VGK but never heard a single individual complain about anything cap relating in regard to the 2022 championship team.
They literally never cheated the cap in 2022, wth are you talking about??
Apparently you're confusing them with TB or Vegas cap shenanigans.