NEW: Bergara Ridge Carbon Wilderness
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This year at SHOT Show, we saw Bergara’s newest offerings. The Bergara Ridge Carbon Wilderness was one I thought offered great value at an affordable price, warranting a closer look.
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Update on this - I've loaded and shot bullets from Berger, Hornady and Sierra through the rifle. Still trying to decide which bullets will be used for my hunting loads this year. Accuracy is hanging in there about like Gavin demonstrated a year ago, between 1/2" and 3/4" at 100 yards for three shots. Took it hunting last year, but didn't get a shot at a muley. This year I hunted spring bear with my good old 30-06 but have cleaned and put that away. I'm going with this 6.5 for the 2024 season including bear, mule deer, and possibly elk. Have to wait and see which tags I draw. It's light, handles well, the scope is just super and it doesn't slam the shoulder real hard either. Pretty sweet hunting rifle and I hope to fill my freezer with game taken by the Bergara this season. Best of luck to all of you hunters out there!
My husband loves his Ridge Carbon 308. Shoots great!
Very informative video as always Gavin! I love my Wilderness Ridge Carbon in 6.5 Creedmoor. Thanks for sharing!
I put together the exact rifle, chambering and scope. It shot Winchester ammo surprisingly well (both deer season xp as well as Super X. I also tested some federal/Berger, federal/swift, and barnes ammo through it. Ultimately decided on the Winchester XP125s. Great setup.
I have that same VX-5HD on my 300 Win Mag and it works great practicing out to 1000 with calculations. 😊
I have this same rifle. Only difference is I have a Nightforce 8-32 on it. It does add a little more weight. I bore sighted just like you. I was six inches low and 2 inches left. I wanted my 100 yard zero at 2.79 inches high so I dialed that in on the Nightforce. I then did a five shot group and what do you know, it printed a 0.294 inch group. Happy as hell with my Bergara. The 7th and 8th rounds both took down white tails in their tracks. 👍👍👍
Thanks for the review! I just picked up the Ridge Carbon in 7PRC. Planning to use it for Elk in December in AZ.
Best of luck on your hunt!
How did the hunt go?
Great video. Always enjoy your videos, advise and feedback from UR. I am very seriously considering the Ridge Carbon Wilderness. Going 7mm PRC, of course. I think 7mm PRC in that gun would be an almost perfect all around hunting rifle.
I have the same scope and rings on my smokeless , I'm very happy.
it would be interesting to have the B-Squared stock installed on the Carbon Wilderness....thanks for the review.
As usual great video. How do Bergara‘s carbon barrels compare to proof research?
Its very interesting that the bolt face on this Bergara is patterned off of the post 70 Winchester bolt face! This rifle looks to be a nice light weight hunting rifle, my pick would be the 6.5 PRC.
Good pick!
I would love to see either one of these in a left hand version.
What height scope rings did you get? I like this set up a lot!
Need one of these in the 7 prc just announced
My ibi hunter contour carbon has zero shift I’ve tried getting it hot for unrealistic purpose but 2 5 shot groups fast and one was .09 the others .11 but that’s a full custom build
I'm a little surprised about the thermal shift with carbon fiber barrels. I'm kind of new to the concept, but I thought thermal stability was one of the main points of a carbon fiber wrapped barrel
I know its all preference, but with that off hand hunting stock I just can't stand a scope mounted that high, I would have gone after lower rings. I have used that scope before, very nice.
I would do the Ridge. I like a clean bottom, hinged floor plate.
People don’t understand carbon barrels after a three shot group are hotter than a steel barrel, you just don’t feel it cause of the carbon. You have 1/3 or so of steel in a carbon, they are turned down a lot. Just cause you touch the carbon and it doesn’t feel hot, doesn’t mean your turned down pencil barrel inside that carbon isn’t hot as shit.
Great job on your review and the analytics for the 6.5.
I’m preparing for an elk hunt in New Mexico, during early Sept. and interested in your thoughts on the “New” Bergara Wilderness Ridge Carbon in 7mm PRC ? Please share your thoughts on its performance analytics.
Respectfully,
Vance
That is a VERY fancy trigger pull tool!
Isn't that thing great? I've had a standard little trigger pull tool for a long time but when Gavin came up with this thing, I was blown away!
Nice hunting rifle and scope
I like the Ridge Carbon. I would use it for deer hunting. Probably install Leopold Rings with Similar Leopold like yours. I am tore between the 6.5 Creedmore and the 6.5 PRC.
I like both cartridges. The 6.5 Creedmoor for it's gentle behavior, easy accuracy. The 6.5 PRC strikes me as a better hunting cartridge for longer shots. Tough choice. I've got the 6.5 Creed because it's nice to shoot and it's "enough" for most of what I hunt.
Looks like its ready for hunting season 👍
Yes sir, I think so too.
Yes!
I'll go with the squared crest in 7prc. If 2024 is a good year I'll have fon next fall. I have a ruger prc in 6.5 for competition. 7prc is the everything cartridge long range moose hunter ( haven't taken a moose yet)
Hey Gavin, Can you clarify if these come with Bergara's new CURE carbon barrel? You mentioned the one you test had some thermal walk, but Bergara mentions their CURE barrels help that? Bergara currently advertises that all of the 2023 and newer B14's come with the CURE barrel? Just wondering if the one you tested has it? Thanks!
Did you use the long action or short action scope rings for build?
I actually would like one of these rifles IF it came in a caliber I’m interested in. I’m more old school fan of the 30-06, .270win, or .243win(my favorite). Nothing wrong with those other cartridges just not my cup of tea.
That would be an awesome rifle in 270 Winchester
Do you have reloading gear for those calibers only, or why are you only looking for them?
@@TrolloTV I have a multitude of other calibers as well. Those are just the hunting cartridges I use the most.
Hey Gavin I’m getting a bergara b14 ridge wilderness but I can’t decide between steel or carbon barrel. I’m swapping out the stock for a manners pro hunter so I can do some nrl hunter matches. After watching your videos it seems like the steel barrels seem to be more accurate. what is your take on which barrel is more accurate?
I like the Crest better because of the MonteCarlo type stock it fits me better and is more rigid.
I would have to get a 308win..... I don't hunt with anything else....... Great looking rifle!
The 308 is great!
Wonder when they will come out with a 7 prc?
That's what I'm waiting for!!! 7prc in an HMR
It has just been approved in Spain just like SAAMI standards here in the USA.
If you haven't seen, they just released a few of their rifles in 7 prc
👍🏻👍🏻
I am sure 6.5 prc rifles are only 2 plus one in chamber for mag capacity, not three unless there has been a change
What a great video! I have the exact same rifle and scope. What are the specs on the scope rings you're using so I can buy the exact same ones?
6.5 prc
So did you do the barrel break in there recommend or not?
Why such high scope rings and something that gets lower closer to center?
How long did you wait in between shots to get your cold barrel zero?
Hello, I have a hmr carbon 6.5Creedmoor and I'm having problems using the weapon with a suppressor.
The bullets are hitting the lifter and I can't muster any shots.
Is yours right?
Thanks
Deer and elk up to 500 yards in 6.5 PRC
Excellent review! I'm the fourth person to ask, but what is the height of the rings you use for this build?
crest in 7 PRC
What no Left Hand Version?
I'd love some info on the effectiveness of a carbon sleeved barrel (a thin steel barrel with an air gap, then a carbon tube over the top). The rimfire Bergara carbons have it, and I'm assuming this one does too.
I'd get the ridge carbon in a heartbeat if they would custom chamber it in .35 Whelen for me.
That's a great cartridge!
What is the weight difference between the two scopes?
What height are those rings?
Is the barrel cure carbon barrel?
Oh yes this looks like it might make a dandy whitetail rifle! Make mine a .308 Win with a 20" barrel and the tread protector installed 👍👍
I don't understand the marketing on it, shud also have 7-08 and 7PRC avail in my mind. I like the hinged floorplate, prefer to DM's by a longshot. But the carbon barrel is still a no go for me at this point.
We hope to get our hands on the 7 PRC sometime soon. Love the 7-08! It's under-appreciated for sure.
They just came out with 7 prc for the ridge carbon can you do a review
Hoping to get our hands on one soon.
I have 3 proof research carbon barrels and they have zero shift in a 10 shot group.
Good to know!
I'm going to be buying a crest or wilderness carbon. My question is which barrel is more conducive to shooting strings of shots without getting flyers?
I'm trying to decide between these 2 also. I've never held a new style stock like the Crest, so I'm not sure about it for all types of hunting. I do have a B14 Ridge in 270win that is my finest shooting rifle. I did have the barrel lightened and rifle cerakoted.
22 Creed
At 6.4# with a 19oz optic and 4oz rings, you’d think it would be clearly under 8# I wonder why it came in so heavy?
The Hawkins rings are listed at 3-4oz per ring on the website which would make up the delta. You could definitely get under 8 with a lighter weight scope ring combo.
I think u should swap the barreled actions out and put the carbon barrel creed in the crest stock. 😳
I like the gun, but I think that stock is ugggly!
Though it now comes in the 7prc as of a couple of weeks.
Lol, the mark 5hd is a great scope, but you can't see anything of the crosshairs at 3 or 4 power. It just dissappears at that power. Those cross hairs could be a little thicker so theyll actually be visible at the lower powers. I had one & returned it because it just wasn't practical AT ALL at the lower power for closer ranges.
Would like to see carbon barrel life vs standard barrel comparison, carbon fiber is an insulator and will hold heat in !!
auto racing is no stranger to carbon fiber. and some cars, like Formula One, are made entirely from it. that said, yeah it's light and fast and looks cool. but how long do those cars last? not very long. no one uses last years car during the next season. meanwhile, a base model Toyota will be on the road for 100 years. to me, a CF rifle is form over function.
@@unkulwilly the time racing teams use their cars for doesn't really have anything to do with the carbon fiber.
no different than non wrapped barrels. barrel life is a factor of throat erosion. you cant run a bolt fast enough to make heat a significant factor over powder and pressure. the base barrel steel and cartridge is what matters here
@@unkulwilly Maybe you haven't seen Proof bash a cinder block in with one and then shoot it?
Has anyone upgrade their trigger yet?
I was wondering can you try the trigger scale testing with a real cold rifle not sure if you have a freezer you can set it in for a couple hours before you test wondering if that will change results ?
That’s a great idea!
Great video. I’ve been thinking about buying one of these and change the stock with a MDT HNT26 chassis, what do you think about that?
Well, that is a pretty awesome chassis...
I am actually doing this exact thing. 7mm PRC on order at Eurooptic and MDT HNT26 folding with Arca rail. If you are a veteran, it is at about $3000 for both items. Rifle on back order in 7mm PRC but was $1251 for rifle and $1545 for the chassis before taxes and shipping. Cheaper than the new 307 Vanguard Alpine MDT HNT26 which is about $3k list price
@@johnknecht1300 great! Actually after Bergara announced chambering in 7 PRC, I got happy and will do the same thing! Weatherby 307 is great but in my opinion that rifle got to be with carbon barrel!
Swap stocks on the ridge and crest. That's how it should have been.
I would buy this gun tomorrow if it came in 300 WSM or 7mm PRC
7mm PRC is coming out. I have one on order from eurooptic
7mm prc
I’m going to get the HMR Carbon Wilderness in 308.
Good ol' 308 is a great hunting cartridge! Enjoy.
Were you not allowed to tell us the brand of cricket?
I would have loved to see it in a 7mm PRC!
We hope to get our hands on one of those...
They're making them. Just short supply now
I think this rifle in a 284 win for mountain hunting would be great.
Be great if Bergara could make a 3 lug, 60 degree throw. Rem footprint... 90 degree = too close to scopes...
Check out the CVA Cascade which is owned and made by Bergera in the same plant.
@@DV-cm3tb Thanks I will investigate! 👍
Good looking rifle. I'd hunt it. :)
Lets bring this rifle back and put a chassis on it.
Going on my first elk hunt this year. Can I borrow that gun!?
Hmmm. Nope! :)
Guy can’t be interested in that it’s not a 30-06!
Ha! I actually like it. Heck of a worthwhile hunting rifle. Umm, I do use other cartridges too...
😂
Well, one difference is Guy will keep the 6.5cm in proper protective. And that will be enjoyable to see. The 6.5cm is impressive. But I would like to see a 7mm-08. Or Gavin build a 7mm cm. Dave Manson has a reamer for it.
Just remember, the gun shoots amazing. Just don’t sit there and shoot 10 shots in a row at an animal and expect it to be perfect. Hunting guns should be tested by 1 shot then let it fully cool off to ambient then another shot. Not 3 in a row either. Target guns need many shots but hunting rifles DO NOT!
I'm going to disagree with this guy.if your only shoot a gun once at a time you will be very disappointed! If you don't shoot the gun alot you will never find out what you or the gun are capable of. Im not saying to shoot several shots in a row. But to shoot like three shots at a time to see how the gun shoots from cold bore to warm bore to find out if the gun will group or if bullet rises as barrel warms or if it goes right to left. Or if you need to just concentrate on your shooting.
Sorry man but I completely disagree a hunting rifle will some day need to preform a fallow up shot. Grouping your rifle at the range shooting three shots in a row at a casual speed will show you if your gun properly groups the rounds you chose. Shooting one at a time without putting a little heat to your barrel will never show you how your gun will shoot in a hunting scenario.
Big game often need follow up shots. Because they can run 70 yards off a cliff double lunged. So a “hunting” rifle needs to be accurate potentially at an even further or closer range within seconds of the first shot.
This video just ended my shopping in carbon fiber barrels- as i was searching for a replacement of the Ridge Line i just sent to the manufacturer
All great stuff. Too bad Bergara want to put ugly stocks on their rifles
They have offered them in walnut stocks as well. I understand that those haven't sold as well, which is a shame. I really appreciate a nice wood-stocked rifle.
👎on the 6.5CM.
Why? Doubt you've even shot it.
@@spartanxlv You're correct, I haven't and don't plan on it. It's a great design for sure. It's the hype. It's over rated.
@@jamesmooney5348how is it over rated if you haven’t shot it?
@@jamesmooney5348 I see far more people underrating and whining about it than overrating it. It’s popularity is booming for good reason. It’s certainly not must-have if you prefer to shoot another comparable intermediate round, as we’re mostly splitting hairs comparing cartridges that do largely the same thing. 6.5 CM is not the best at any one attribute, but is as well-rounded as cartridges get.
It's an old idea rehashed 4 times and now somehow its popular... the .260, 6.5x284, 6.5 wby. 6.5x55 Swiss. But the Creedmoor can do all? It's not the cartridge, it's the Bubba sniper "im Chris kyle because i walked in a shot" people who own guns in that cartridge that are the problem. I have one, it's cool, cheap to handload due to its popularity via brass and dies, great in shorter barrels IE LR308 pattern rifles, but it is far from the best everyone claims. So I get the criticism, I'm tired of it too and I have one.
Why do you even bother with such cheap rifles and optics? Really 😮
We work with rifles at many different price points. Using the top end rifles and components is quite rewarding, but we've found gems at much lower cost as well. Many of our subscribers aren't going to purchase a $5k hunting rifle, but are interested in a $500 rifle. Even the less expensive rifles can perform well. This one is what I'd consider mid-priced, and a good value.
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@@jamesmooney5348 I didn't realize spending 2500 dollars on a rifle setup was cheap. 99 percent of the people watching these videos including myself cannot afford to spend 3-5k on a rifle alone and then another 2500 dollars for an optic. And in general 99 percent of us don't need a rifle setup as such. We use our rifles every now and then on the weekends and then go and hunt with them.
Did you use the long action or short action scope rings for build?