F-16 VS FIRST JET FIGHTERS - How Many Does It Take? - WAR THUNDER

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  • Hey guys! Welcome back to the Thunder with Muffin channel. A new challenge in War Thunder is waiting for you in this video MODERN JET FIGHTER (F-16) VS FORST JET FIGHTER (ME 262)!!! Stay tuned!
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  • @FryedFish
    @FryedFish Před rokem +756

    Pretty interesting to see that once their missiles ran out, so did their skill

    • @dewayto234xd9
      @dewayto234xd9 Před rokem +9

      Lol

    • @Donut833
      @Donut833 Před rokem +120

      I won’t say that they had no skill, but at the same time the F16 has a radar gun sight man. It can be iffy with a slippery opponent but I find it to be accurate enough. Kinda disappointing.

    • @neopolitan4121
      @neopolitan4121 Před rokem +14

      SO TRUE

    • @matthewshadle7131
      @matthewshadle7131 Před rokem +7

      I know how to evade missiles with an me262. It’s tricky but possible

    • @MberEnder
      @MberEnder Před rokem +47

      I actually got a few kills with my gun. The problem is that the F-16 only has like 600 rounds, so the cannon runs out faster than the missiles.

  • @Zero_2558
    @Zero_2558 Před rokem +253

    Funny enough the first F16 that got taken out was by a kikka which had much worse firepower then a Me262 let alone F16, max respect for that Japanese pilot

    • @Dave-_-
      @Dave-_- Před rokem +16

      in an original 262 it'd be still harder to hit because kikka's type 5 cannons HEF-T round goes 920m/s when any round from MK 108 goes only 500m/s. That's why japanese 30mm's are slower and don't have minengeschoß but are actually better

    • @ivanfromtheeast4709
      @ivanfromtheeast4709 Před rokem +1

      @@Dave-_- that’s why I’d imagine we’d see a huge difference vs f80 or f84

    • @FRFFW
      @FRFFW Před 9 měsíci

      Japanese air target did a better job than the german one

  • @theforzagamer3880
    @theforzagamer3880 Před rokem +150

    The P80 Shooting Star and Gloster Meteor would’ve been nice to see in this

    • @KMZX_700
      @KMZX_700 Před rokem +1

      mmhmm

    • @adriencoudert1083
      @adriencoudert1083 Před rokem +1

      And P-59s

    • @ivanfromtheeast4709
      @ivanfromtheeast4709 Před rokem

      I think if the first match was p80s they would’ve won. Looked like the low velocity of the German guns let them down quite a bit

    • @sabrinaboisvert1141
      @sabrinaboisvert1141 Před rokem

      @@ivanfromtheeast4709 they have Mk 103's which is higher velocity than 50cal, same with Mg 151 basically

    • @ivanfromtheeast4709
      @ivanfromtheeast4709 Před rokem +2

      @@sabrinaboisvert1141 the mk108 fires with a muzzle velocity of 1,770 fps while the m2 fires at 2,910 fps so not only is the muzzle velocity faster it also has less drag

  • @slavicgondola1817
    @slavicgondola1817 Před rokem +21

    10:59 of course it’s a cracked out kika player that made that hell of a shot. Great video 🤙🏻

  • @Walking654
    @Walking654 Před rokem +61

    Bro the F-16 pilot in the gold plane literally just lowered and let his gear fly off on multiple occasions during landing and takeoff 💀

    • @Tanknuggets217
      @Tanknuggets217 Před rokem +21

      That dude just spammed missles. Terrible player

    • @kaljamaistuuperjantaisin
      @kaljamaistuuperjantaisin Před 11 měsíci +1

      ​@@Tanknuggets217you don't even probably have tier 5 aircraft unlocked💀

    • @bipbap5079
      @bipbap5079 Před 11 měsíci +5

      ​@@Tanknuggets217Itd be the best strategy here, its not bad skill, its just not being dumb

  • @danielszmit2073
    @danielszmit2073 Před rokem +264

    the first F16 player just spammed missiles, his aim with the cannon was honestly pretty terrible, not a particularly interesting battle to watch

    • @brentonwinslow9490
      @brentonwinslow9490 Před rokem

      Both rounds had shit aim

    • @bolognaguy3100
      @bolognaguy3100 Před rokem +2

      ok 👌

    • @MberEnder
      @MberEnder Před rokem +43

      That's kind of the point. The F-16 isn't just faster and more agile than a Me 262, it also has much better weapons. And yes, I did get kills with the gun. The F-16 only has like 600 rounds of 20mil, so it runs out quickly.
      And if you're questioning my skill, I will gladly 1v1 you F-16 vs. F-16.

    • @Westwoodshadowgaming
      @Westwoodshadowgaming Před rokem +13

      @@MberEnder You're like "fight me if you doubt my skill" i love it!

    • @caralho5237
      @caralho5237 Před rokem +6

      ​@@Westwoodshadowgaming imagine if he just loses tho

  • @sandystockmon8561
    @sandystockmon8561 Před rokem +85

    fun fact, the head of the luftwaffe towards the end of the war actually used the 262 and mainly used it as an interceptor due to its exceptional speed compaired to bombers and the guns that were used on it, including the 50mm anti armor gun that could pritty much break a wing before you could say "bandits" if you had good aim.

    • @I_am_not_a_dog
      @I_am_not_a_dog Před rokem +10

      The 262 variant which carried the 50mm cannon (the Me 262 A-1a/U4) had 2 built. As far as I am aware, none were used operationally, and if they were, I highly doubt they ever would have hit anything.
      262 pilots lamented their closing speeds with enemy bombers, as it gave them such a small window to shoot that it led to far fewer kills than one might expect. Knowing this, I can’t even imagine how difficult it would have been for pilots to use the 50mm.
      Case-in-point:
      If it worked as well, some version of it would’ve seen use post-war. The closest we got to it was the single 37mm cannon on the MiG-9 and MiG-15, which was specifically intended for taking down US strategic bombers. It was so difficult to use that pilots whom were exceptionally skilled with it in-training were awarded a special title, “Sniper Pilot.”

    • @vasiliymedvedev1532
      @vasiliymedvedev1532 Před 6 měsíci

      ​@mfil92 sniper pilot class qualification was created in 1971 so it definitely had nothing to do mig 9

  • @Nativeat1YT
    @Nativeat1YT Před rokem +51

    Aim 9L and Aim7M was essentially bullying the poor 262s lol, Great Video.

    • @ThunderWithMuffin
      @ThunderWithMuffin  Před rokem +7

      Thanks Native!

    • @ace_maker3492
      @ace_maker3492 Před rokem +1

      The 7ms couldn’t get enough signal to launch, I kept trying to launch the 7ms the entire time but the only time I got enough signal was in that head on

    • @Nativeat1YT
      @Nativeat1YT Před rokem

      @Ace_Maker Who need stealth when you have the ground lol

    • @ace_maker3492
      @ace_maker3492 Před rokem

      They werent even low lol, they just refused to get signal for launch, I think it might have been speed difference

  • @duprontifyer3670
    @duprontifyer3670 Před rokem +45

    Hi I love your content as a war thunder player myself I love to see these fun videos it really makes my day

  • @jeager555
    @jeager555 Před rokem +14

    The Kikka is a Japanese varient of the Me 262, not the exact same but simular

  • @LogI_Bear
    @LogI_Bear Před rokem +30

    Germany never suffers!

  • @tinymustacheman9631
    @tinymustacheman9631 Před rokem +3

    It's all shits and giggles until somebody giggles and shits

  • @skiwari2579
    @skiwari2579 Před rokem +5

    F16 try not to use missile challenge (impossible)

  • @hansthesoldier8700
    @hansthesoldier8700 Před rokem +3

    10:57 yay im on screen :D

  • @sharinillias
    @sharinillias Před rokem +25

    Why no one using the Me-262 C2b?? Gives a little edge for the dogfights against modern jets. Would love to see a C2b engaging.

    • @darthnick1516
      @darthnick1516 Před rokem +1

      Yea well the boosters would help but only a little. Also i only saw the a1 and the squadron one , so i guess that's what they had to use.

  • @APerson-fj6yx
    @APerson-fj6yx Před rokem +4

    This reminded me of how I, a P-400, shot down 1 F-16, 3 MiG 29s, and 2 MiG 21s
    *this was in separate servers in 2 separate days*
    Guess that’s what happens when you play too much Microsoft flight sim

  • @jessediego4096
    @jessediego4096 Před rokem +3

    Mig 29s vs Me 262s next time

  • @mystlcgreatness
    @mystlcgreatness Před rokem +6

    The F-16s have some cool camouflages

  • @787sarecool
    @787sarecool Před 11 měsíci +1

    6:25 That is some extreme luck to not crash. If it was me I would be like “My time has come” 😂

  • @aapopesonen2902
    @aapopesonen2902 Před rokem +4

    Video idea: Slowest plane vs the fastest. This would probably be PO-2 vs F-104.

    • @sanya1216
      @sanya1216 Před rokem +1

      Mig 29 is faster than f104

  • @no-ct2ku
    @no-ct2ku Před rokem +2

    It's so easy to dogfight 4th gen jets in 1st or 2nd gen jets. You have a smaller turn radius because you are slower when at max speed.

    • @di5ea5eairsoft6
      @di5ea5eairsoft6 Před rokem +1

      Thats y top jets dont engage in dogfights

    • @cideltacommand7169
      @cideltacommand7169 Před rokem

      @@di5ea5eairsoft6 yeah lol, they just use their burst in a boom and zoom then escape the enemies range before they turn

  • @Cyanfox3006
    @Cyanfox3006 Před 10 měsíci +1

    In first round there was literally no chance for 262s unless the pilot us stupid. You just shoot your missiles, go to space, rearm, repeat. Big respect to the Kikka pilot.

  • @adamklasa7270
    @adamklasa7270 Před rokem +7

    I like so much your content:) I would like to see, more of the historical recreations, maybe battle of Łuck, battle of Hannut or battle of Falaise? The war in Poland (1939) would be very cool, but we don,t have to much Polisch vehicles (like PZL-11, TKS, Karaś, Łoś, 7TP, Wz.34)

  • @Rezin8Gaming
    @Rezin8Gaming Před rokem +2

    Would love to see a Me-262 vs P-51 video

  • @KMZX_700
    @KMZX_700 Před rokem +2

    New title - F-16 vs. ME-262. _*yeah, the title is slightly ocd triggering_ but overall great vid.

  • @Relatable_444
    @Relatable_444 Před rokem +1

    I ran into one of the Me 626 jet fighters while playing (it was fine art expert)

  • @samc6231
    @samc6231 Před rokem +1

    A very ironic ending, considering that was how the allies used to take out me262's back in the day

  • @silentact1
    @silentact1 Před rokem +4

    Can you please do a B17 Flying Fortress formation vs ME 262’s? Or a Royal Navy clash vs the Kriegsmarine?

  • @fantalover420
    @fantalover420 Před 8 měsíci

    It went by like we were standing still!

  • @tristenakintomide9091

    F-5 VS Mig-23 or F-4 VS Mig-21 would be an excellent video

  • @IamVF301
    @IamVF301 Před 11 měsíci

    The F-16A (warthunder one) isn’t in service anymore as to my knowledge lol (still great video)

  • @pieterdeliho1492
    @pieterdeliho1492 Před 11 měsíci

    Would love to be in a F-16AJ if there's another battle like this

  • @rudatkatzn9171
    @rudatkatzn9171 Před rokem +7

    Honestly, while I find it cool to do these vs matches, the first round was obvious. The 262 can't climb. It's engines are atrociously bad (in RB) and with the enemy getting it's missiles back every few seconds, not a chance

    • @Tswa567
      @Tswa567 Před rokem

      Agreed, they basically just could and did sit at long range/high altitude and spam mach 4 missiles against a trans-sonic jet. Wouldn’t be different if it was bi planes or even Mig15s

  • @shoya3345
    @shoya3345 Před rokem

    damn i really like this type of content

  • @horndog252
    @horndog252 Před rokem

    I'm ngl, great video, I think I had a stroke listening to the first 10 seconds of the video

  • @Add12pack
    @Add12pack Před rokem +8

    I wanna see the best turning non-biplane the German flying wing vs f-16's with guns only. It's the ho 229? Something like that can't remember. Edit I guessed it right!

  • @dragonbladem6899
    @dragonbladem6899 Před rokem +1

    Can you do a swarm of 1st Gen Fighters vs 4th Gen Fighters

  • @araara_seraph6335
    @araara_seraph6335 Před rokem +1

    This was fun to do even tho I died most the time xD

  • @thefew.theproud.19Kilo
    @thefew.theproud.19Kilo Před rokem +3

    11:00 what a freakin shot.

  • @05-1scpfoundation5
    @05-1scpfoundation5 Před rokem +1

    The golden F-16 pilot was handing out freedom 😂

  • @ABPYAB
    @ABPYAB Před rokem +1

    Oye como consejo creo que sería buena idea que en una esquina pongas a tiempo real el restante de vehículos en cada equipo :V

  • @AmarettoTheFurry
    @AmarettoTheFurry Před 2 měsíci

    song during 3:40? Sounds really good. nvm, Shazam finally worked.

  • @way9895
    @way9895 Před rokem +1

    How every uptier feels

  • @XDthedevilsrejectsXD
    @XDthedevilsrejectsXD Před rokem

    Wow talk about a hopeless fight

  • @Thatguytigers
    @Thatguytigers Před rokem

    6:21
    My brain: hes dead
    My heart: hes dead
    My anxiety:💀
    The pilot's radio: Freeebirdd!!!

  • @Lexicon-ff6or
    @Lexicon-ff6or Před 11 měsíci

    Time traveler: moves a chair
    The timeline:

  • @Riftz-I
    @Riftz-I Před rokem

    get new 262 pilots who actually have brains

  • @meepy2739
    @meepy2739 Před rokem

    I love how there's a kikka

  • @T-Gameing
    @T-Gameing Před rokem +1

    we need more plane vs plane videos

  • @akbk7160
    @akbk7160 Před rokem +1

    Anyone know when the dev server will be open again?

  • @Noel100HUN
    @Noel100HUN Před rokem +2

    as we can see in the video no missile=no skill

  • @kriptic626
    @kriptic626 Před rokem +1

    Do Abrams against prop planes

  • @professionalretard9364
    @professionalretard9364 Před rokem +4

    It is the fastest aircraft weapon. 6k rpm is unmatched

  • @madmonsterbbb9131
    @madmonsterbbb9131 Před rokem

    6:24 its like mere millimeters from crashing

  • @codenamecrusade1083
    @codenamecrusade1083 Před rokem +1

    Sad the Meteor didn't get to fight there

  • @DucksSpys
    @DucksSpys Před rokem

    Hmm interesting to see that their missiles are their skill and life.

  • @Looscannon94
    @Looscannon94 Před rokem

    Why would you bring in the ME262 with the 50mm cannon? Seems like the worst option for this.

  • @novaadityamr1724
    @novaadityamr1724 Před rokem +1

    Just flashing in my head, will be prop plane or Me 262 dodge more missile if they had missile detection thing? Because what I watch is they mostly didn't know if they got locked.

  • @Xtariz
    @Xtariz Před rokem

    Stupid question... is it possible to have true size battle historically correct battles in WarThunder player vs player...

  • @starwarsgeek1565S1
    @starwarsgeek1565S1 Před 6 měsíci

    do MiGs vs later MiGs pls

  • @f0xbrother
    @f0xbrother Před rokem

    i have an idea why not trying 10 hstvl vs 10 2s38 or 20vs20

  • @ATBatmanMALS31
    @ATBatmanMALS31 Před rokem

    I mean... if you had Smigol, I think he's proven the answer is "1".

  • @roblox_lover446
    @roblox_lover446 Před 21 dnem

    W intro

  • @petersmythe6462
    @petersmythe6462 Před 11 měsíci

    "All they need to cripple the fighter"
    Yeah I would say an F-16 is probably gonna die from average 2-3 30mm hits.

  • @aklapotherpotherpothikrebh603

    Need b29 vs all ww2 axis aircraft

  • @bobbob646
    @bobbob646 Před rokem +4

    Seeing everything get shot by the missiles is just boring

  • @kinmoto6096
    @kinmoto6096 Před rokem

    Day 11 : OTOMATIC vs WII planes

  • @Master_Gabe_Gaming
    @Master_Gabe_Gaming Před rokem +1

    Hi muffin…

  • @lachlanrosser1284
    @lachlanrosser1284 Před rokem

    I managed to shoot down a f-14 tomcat in a french monoplane with 20mms it took a good hour or two but I managed to do it.

  • @dakotasimms7270
    @dakotasimms7270 Před rokem

    As much as I love the 262 the meteor is older

  • @gt95br67
    @gt95br67 Před rokem +1

    I see a me 262 from Brazil

  • @legendcharizard1476
    @legendcharizard1476 Před rokem +1

    The first part is just outright boring. Missile spam all the way, and 2nd round shows that pretty well after the two F-16s expended all their missiles.

  • @user-eu5yz4cz4r
    @user-eu5yz4cz4r Před 3 měsíci

    How do you get the f-16 faster

  • @garrettobrien5197
    @garrettobrien5197 Před rokem

    That first round was less. What can the f16 do. And more of. What can the aim9L do

  • @katze3659
    @katze3659 Před 11 měsíci

    "Hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby"

  • @maxmachac9756
    @maxmachac9756 Před rokem +1

    Damn, a team full of pilots that cant aim

  • @haydeneaton5113
    @haydeneaton5113 Před rokem +2

    Minor skill issue with the F 16 pilots... kind of disappointing

    • @ghostly6175
      @ghostly6175 Před rokem

      Had the speed, climb rate, and weapon advantage and performed terribly. Could have just been because of the way it was edited but once they ran out of missiles they were terrible at dogfighting, just proves even some top tier players have as much skill as new players

  • @rawchicken3463
    @rawchicken3463 Před rokem

    I think i said to do this one

  • @fearjxnxk6284
    @fearjxnxk6284 Před 11 měsíci

    against mig 15 would be interesting

  • @dragongaming479
    @dragongaming479 Před rokem

    me 262 is not actuly there first jet fighter the he 178 was also queston do you say it me 262 (like the me that talks about your self) or m e 262

  • @TheOtherAviationGuy
    @TheOtherAviationGuy Před rokem

    Its how many missiles the F16 has and after that it’s done

  • @pedrim5969
    @pedrim5969 Před rokem

    1:57 Brazil Showation

  • @Monkeyseadew
    @Monkeyseadew Před rokem

    Me wondering why none of the 262's led the f16 at a long range.

  • @Fxne_wrxld
    @Fxne_wrxld Před rokem

    Funny that when their missiles ran out they have no skill

  • @mexican-qe1jr
    @mexican-qe1jr Před rokem

    Bro put all the guns available on the ME 262 just to try win against the f16 💀

  • @Onzaie
    @Onzaie Před rokem

    i was there i died at 6:08 as well as 9:11 (i was Onzaie 1)

  • @g3d2dgaming91
    @g3d2dgaming91 Před rokem

    T35 VS Chr2c

  • @mamarussellthepie3995

    Was gonna say something dumb like "Dude where tf did you find these lousy Viper drivers? XD" but then I realized WT players are not always the best lmao xD

  • @Rajveer_Singh68
    @Rajveer_Singh68 Před rokem

    Bro Fired 69 missile from 1 F-16 it's not ACE Combat bro😂

  • @alecsanchez8939
    @alecsanchez8939 Před rokem

    P-59 vs MiG-29

  • @gamingwithmoxy3770
    @gamingwithmoxy3770 Před rokem

    You shoud pick Mig 29

  • @Lithslav
    @Lithslav Před 8 měsíci

    Wdym "first jets"? Those are Me-262's, the Me-262 is not the first jet.. I don't wanna be a nerd but like- the first jet was the Heinkel He-178.. And if you still haven't realised the mistake maybe you could actually make the same thing but with actual He-178's? I would appreciate it. Ik it's a lot to ask [if you haven't done it already, prolly not] since you probaly don't have a lot of time and videos take hours to make and days to edit, but I [and some other nerds] appreciate you for taking your time to re do it [if you do, and we all appreciate you already but we will even more] so yeah, have a good day (:

    • @no-om9fg
      @no-om9fg Před 8 měsíci

      The He-178's never saw combat so the me-262 is the first "operational" fighter jet

    • @Lithslav
      @Lithslav Před 8 měsíci

      @@no-om9fg you got a point. But still, the He-178 exists

  • @-PHANT0M
    @-PHANT0M Před rokem

    With my skill the prop planes would kill me in the f16 within 1-2 minutes lol 🥲

  • @AntonBayerle-or9eo
    @AntonBayerle-or9eo Před rokem

    retty boring that the f16 got his missels rep bc that just seems unfair

  • @64freight
    @64freight Před rokem

    What game is this???

  • @Nakamax.
    @Nakamax. Před 8 měsíci

    Why you sound like the war thunder narrator voice

  • @dev1stat0r37
    @dev1stat0r37 Před rokem

    The F-14 is more of a legend than the F-16

  • @xgliderawmsx7066
    @xgliderawmsx7066 Před rokem

    Me 163 vs f22 raptor

    • @carrott36
      @carrott36 Před rokem

      The F22 isn’t in the game

  • @user-gw8lr7oj7e
    @user-gw8lr7oj7e Před 6 měsíci

    Бесконечные ракеты 😅😂.похоже на фильм топ ган где том круз все миги сбил 😅😂

  • @Linhwitch
    @Linhwitch Před rokem

    Mig 21 về f4