Trying to FIX an unusual 1980s SWATCH Twin PHONE
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- čas přidán 21. 10. 2021
- Remember landline phones? Well here we have a broken SWATCH phone with a strange feature that I have never seen before. I purchased it faulty from eBay, let's see if it can be repaired.
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What number do you get if you multiply all of the numbers on a telephone keypad?
0
Zero
666 EVIL NUMBER 🤣
-0- zero.
Depends what order you multiply them
Vince, the pulse dialing was a "hack" way to get round the telephone lock on rotary dials. Mainly as tennents who'd have to put money in the landlords (and parents 😉 ) ) little telephone money box. so that's likely what they mean by "free calls"
Hi Vince, got to say a big thanks. never realy repaired anything but got inspired by your channel , an iphone 6s wasnt working properly and earphone dead. the screen looked to be bending outwards so suspected the battery. i got a replacement on ebay inc tools for 4.99 and a speaker for 3 quid and headphone jack for 4 quid. nothing to lose by trying . anyway end result is a perfectly working iphone 6s with a working jack and ear piece. happy days . need to find other things to fix now. it gets addictive. nice sense of acheivment too
Years ago my mum put a little padlock on the phone so the dial couldn't be turned and pulse dialling is how we got round that to call our friends. Great video mate.
I remember when some parents would put a lock on the rotary dial to stop the kids dialling out. They probably didn't know about the on-hook pulsing trick!
I absolutely enjoyed this video, the way you edited it was spot on......LOVE IT. No matter how long or short love watching the tear down an put together ..... learn much more Thank you :)
I'm 19 years old and I find your videos very astonishing. Mostly repairing the old vintage devices you showcase on your videos very satisfying seeing them to work after years
Nice repair =D To get solder onto that piezo - often the best way is to very gently scratch the surface. The braid may have helped with that!
Ahhh, nice one Gadget 👍👍👍👍
I was hoping it was going to be the switch so I could do a swatch switch gag. Lovely looking item, deliciously retro, and incredible packaging. Those suits! 😂
🤣 Hideous suits!!!!
That bought back memories. I used to have one and made my parents plug it in and use it. Mine was lime green with pink and purple wires. I remember people getting confused when they were talking to one person then someone else joined in the conversation..
I would have loved that phone as a kid. Good fix as always :)
Thanks Pawn 👍👍
Yeah, I could picture this kind of a phone being good for allowing a kid and their parent to be able to talk to a distant family member together.
The difference between land lines and mobile phones (even today, in US at least) is analog phones were full duplex. You could hear and speak at the same time. Cell phones are quasi duplex where spoken and hear sounds are split into different digital streams, poorly synced, and not cross mixed. It's terrible compared to what we used to have. Latency is also a plague of digital cell service. Analog circuits were near light speed, and modern phones have ~250msec of delay because of signal conversion, digital data transmission, etc.
The most annoying aspect is the horrendous delay there is between when the call is answered and the audio can be heard! My mobile for example will take about a second to activate the speaker after answering and that means I will miss the beginning of the call which is annoying when it is not just a simple hello!
Nice fix as usual. I remember our first push button phone had a switch for pulse dialing and then simulated the pulses as you dialled. I think it was for exchanges that had not been upgraded to tone.
What's funny, is that, even though my Wife and I still have a land line and a phone; it's never used. However, it's such a cool phone, that, i'd consider using it just for the sake of having a cool phone like that.
0:09 I'm directly checking the date of the video 😂😂
Great wee Video Vince ! Never seen one of them before
keep doing the great work vince👍👍👍👍
Great job mate!
Ahhh pulse dialing! Bringing back telephone principles. I believe the voltages and tones are different US vs UK. Use to instruct courses on telephone and switching systems. Would cover the -48vDC that would be present at the hook switch of the phone. When headset is taken off hook the -48vDC would loop back to carrier and dial tone would be provided to initiator. Then dial two ways, DTMF with keypad of tapping the hook to create short interruptions corresponding to the numerical value off older pulse dial type rotary phones. Now everything is VoIP and call managers 😭. I think there was an episode of MacGyver where he had to get out of a jam via pulse dialing on a, well modern at the time, DTMF style phone. Enjoyed the video as always!!
Very entertaining, thanks for it.
Another Ex BT man here. 73 to 98. TTA then TO Glasgow. Great job great people.
Maureen lipman was in great iconic BT adverts in the 80’s and legendary late Bob Hoskins wit the classic slogan it’s good to talk
At the start you talked about the ins and how it could be the inner or outer pair for certain things . That could be partly down to the engineers connecting the line , they often chose or probably still do choose a pair as you know . I worked for "" Lux " providing traffic management to B.T and watched them doing their stuff , so many wires and often they toned them to get the correct ones . We went out to a job once to replace a few poles , all went well until one of the more experienced guys asked the one who had been in the manhole how he had connected the pairs . He had just colour matched them , oh boy , never saw a crew get packed away and off site so fast because he should have toned them . Every house was wired wrong .
That tapping thing did work , we used to do it as teenagers 😄😄
Nice fix Vince, that would make a good film prop for a Sci-fi series like UFO.
You must clean surfaces to solder to them, fibre glass pen is your friend, nice.....cheers.
One hasn't lived unless they have gotten a bang off of a ringing phone line while the wires were bare. That was always a super surprising feeling.
I think it was the coating on the back of the speaker. It was probably on there so that it wouldn't corrode. You probably cleaned off some of that coating with the wick flux heat and solder making a spot where the solder can bond. Awesome job and this video was also very entertaining.
Big thumbs up. Would be interesting to see 1 of the old dial phones being fixed
Ahh, now I know how come you have a set of those red handled screwdrivers! I'm ex BT myself.
good job mate.
For a second I thought the krays had they own phone brand from the picture of the guys on the box lol
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Well done Vince :)
In the USA the inner two pins are default line 1, and the outer are line 2. But no one uses analog telephone lines here anymore for the most part lol. Red and Green = pair one, black and yellow = pair 2. And we only have the 4 pin connectors not the 6 pin for regular use.
Tapping was definitely a hack when the rotary dial had a lock on it, or the buttons were covered with a locked faceplate. :)
Hi Vince, I bought the BT phone you fixed up in the 1st eBay challenge. That’s a pulse dialler and I’m with virgin media.
Just tested it and it’s still working.
Hey, great to hear you still have it. That was another unusual phone. I still remember the fix, a Zener Diode had failed 👌 Thanks for checking 👍👍👍
Nice video, thanks :)
my mum used to have a telephone lock on the dial so we used to tap the phone to get the numbers dialed...lol
I still use one of those!
It is a WesternElectric™ Model 2500 modular set with bells! I have the ivory one and it was a freecycle find. I love the retro aesthetic. It is built like a war battle tank! As a matter of fact it is sitting right next to me right now on top of a klipsch speaker between my computer desk and the tv entertainment center in my bedroom! It was one of those things I asked for on freecycle and found it in just a matter of hours of my listing going live. It cleaned up pretty well although I didn't need to take it apart for it to work or anything, it worked great when I got it in about march this year and continues to work great. I did find out you can unscrew the caps to the mouthpiece and earpiece. I polished up the contacts to the mic piece while I was cleaning it up. IDK if they have these where you live or not, curious to know if you had a variant of this model.
Good Saturday morning to you sir and your family
I have the same phone here at work. The big red button on the bottom is for the second person to hang up because that phone set can be used by 2 people at once to talk to the same person on the other side.
What a weird phone. Never saw one like that. But I remember those good old days when you heard your blow trough the earpiece.
Great job! According to most electronic experts, soldering a piezo disc can wreck it. I have heard Dave Jones mention this for one. You are supposed to use a small iron and just quickly dab at them. I wonder if that's just an old wive's tale given yours worked fine after a fair bit of soldering heat to it?
very nice phone👍👍
have you ever tried solder glue. or conductive glue. cant remember its proper name, but it comes in handy for hard to solder things like that buzzer
This is a rather interesting device. Too bad that it's in the realm of oddware.
It's amazing. Vince is so clever but sometimes misses such simple things like the fact that you can use the base of the phone as a phone as well. It's in the name "Twin" phone!
He didnt miss it though
@@shifty2755 Eventually not. But it only needed a look at the box and the device! It wasn't meant as a mean comment. I just find it amusing how one can have such high level of attention if fixing something more complex like circuitry and miss what the thing is in the first place!
Just a little helpful tip if you want your solder braid/wick to work better use flux on it
I would definitely buy that, I had a swatch watch in the same plastic in the 80's. I went to Corfu and I sold it for the equivalent of 150 quid in Drachma and it cost £30, just because they had never seen anything like it
So cool
I remember I had an old telephone that wouldn't ring unless there was a bell wire connected to the telephone port I remember complaining that it wasn't working and the engineer coming out and installing it cause all new phones didn't need it to ring
What an odd phone, makes sense SWATCH made it, and those translucent plastics 👍
Yes, very Swatch indeed. Makes me want one of their watches again.
Also RadioShack had transparent phone back in the day that had football neon lighting.
One they was that when you took the phone off the hook it turned off the Neon since otherwise you would get noise in the audio of the phone.
This was not LED jeepney on replacements nor just a couple neon two bulbs but Voltron I believe was pink and neon tube.
One problem with those is if someone need them fixed you could not read the component values since the whole board with painted white.
When I got a hold of one that didn't work since they were popular I cleaned off all the components so I knew what everything was so when it happened next time I was had a record of what everything was.
I don't remember how many does a fixed but it was quite a few.
Although I don't know if they Russo blower or not but just never know quite a few people would have had them.
Also does it wouldn't remember the slinky phone and what I'll call the hotlips phone that looks like a pair of lips.
I believe that was also featured on some old TV show can't remember the name.
Also I remember all the old wireless phones that would pick up other phones and other devices they were on the same frequency.
Still remember occasionally tuning to TV channels in Hampton to hear some money on the cell phone years ago.
What happened to change your channels just at the right time.
It seems like most of the time it was when they were doing something to get calls going or something or other.
It was back in the day when things were not as easy it is of just picking up Ramona phone and it working.
Not quite the brick but.
But almost all those phones back then work our phones I've been told that later in that time of the technology was still in its infancy.
Still remember a lot of the old bag phones and other cell phones using the same batteries as a camcorder back when most people would be using a separate VCR or half of it in some cases and a separate camera.
And a tripod was usually a dolly that had space below for the whole unit so it could be AC powered.
Matter fact used to have some adapters that would adapt those batteries to a cigarette lighter female plug.
And literally they had some wiring harnesses and had to battery connector and a male and female cigarette lighter plug coming out of it on two separate cords
can you please make a video on how to install a phone jack in another room :) thanks Vince love the videos
You might want to get yourself a TS100 soldering iron ore a pinecil iron, that can be powered from 12v to 24v or even usb c, very good and get hot quick
A friend of mine had one of them in the early 90s. It was popular in Italy.
I tried to find an owners manual to see if later revisions had a battery in that little pocket in the center, because I'm weird that way, but all the manuals I could find were in Dutch, and there were no picture references to a model that had a memory feature. Since your box is in English I'm wondering if this phone was a Europe only release even though I remember the Swatch watch was sold here.
My mates parents had a lock on the dial ....... lol didn’t bother us with pulse dialling lol 😂
Great job vince, sometimes it's nice to go back to your roots (kind of)
The subscriber lines in those days would work with both tone or pulse. So your 'dial trick' worked. Nowadys its mostly voice over IP - so you would need a VoIP-Router which supports pulse dial - some do ... ;-)
yeah my bet would be that there was way too much heat that was what shorted the first solder blob to create the short, as no short there before you done the blob of solder.
Hmm..... I wonder. Would technology be terrified, or would it be happy to see the blue mat?
Had a phone like this a long time ago. But in black. Can't remember it was a SWATCH phone. Maybe there were several manufacturers of it.
It's easy to solder to piezo elements, just rough it up with sandpaper and use soldering acid.
Did you ever look through the Argos or Index catalogue when you where a kid because this is the type of stuff you would come across scrolling to the toy pages.
No need to take the piss. I used to wear one of those suits to work hahaha
Vince. Piezo crystals are sensitive of heat....easily cooked. Looks like you were lucky
I know you can solder to aluminium foil by using a blob of cooking oil ? Wondering if you could have used that method on the piezo buzzer ? Andy M6APJ
14:32 my guess as to why it's not is use would be to mute the ringer... you'd have 2 ring tone volumes and then a mute
This may be a silly question, but are the phone system in the UK and North America the same??
Can you take a Land Line Phone from North America and use it in the UK and vice versa??
I don't think so.
I don’t get it Vince, how is that private, you would need to be able to route two calls at the same time down the same line to each handset, I doubt very much that it’s capable of that, it’s really just a gimmick so that two people can speak to the same person on the other end of the line.
He meant private from the other people in the room.
@@jst25 But the 2 sisters can hear each other and the fighting at the other end, not really private and pretty sure not what vince meant by the comment.🙃
Hearing your self if called side tone.😀
I recall reading something years ago where someone was in class in the rotary phone days and kept using the class phone to prank call, so the teacher put a dial lock on it. the kid then pulse dialed and the teacher got mad and threw the phone across the room.
Perhaps the kid should have not done it while the teacher was in the room ;)
NEW SWAATTCH
Bizarre imagery on the packaging.
Vince, those watches are NOT cheap now. And they last for a lifetime. I have one that almost cost me my whole monthly salary.
Working phones sell for between £50 and £70
Can't solder onto rust.
And a bit of flux would help.
That's not rust ... it's tarnish ... a little rub with a fibre brush will clean it.
Someone might be able to help me out here but I read somewhere that the emergency service number 999 was initially made 999 due to accidental pulse dialing along the phone line. Is that correct or a myth?
I believe that is correct. More pulses meant less chance of a misdial occuring. New Zealand used a reverse dial and so '111' was actually the same as pulsing '999'. I think I read somewhere they got British equipment in to implement their emergency number.
It’s for you who 😂
Looks like the top part is yellowed compared to the bottom. Maybe needs a retrobrite?
it was actually made like that. swatch was all about multi colored products
Been dropped that phone has that why it stop working!!!!
I hope you never had a girlfriend with a twin sister and this phone!
I had hell for 3 years !!!
I never knew which of the two picked up the phone
...Why ...Just, why did they do it? XD
Thats not correct about the pulse dial. A 0 was 1 hit because the 9 was 10 hits. Remember this, because when I was on a school trip in 9th grade in the UK, the family we lived at had a lock around the circle so you couldnt dial, but we where still able to call home using this method 😁😁😁
I think that Swatchphone was around 92-93
Oh, times have changed. I remember in the early 80's spinning the dial on the phone to call up the girlfriend or tapping the receiver switch to get the operator. Now my kids say "phones used to have a cord?" and reminds me of my age.
Soldering shit together!!!!!!
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I've Always wondered --> HOW does or WHY are Rings of Phone (into House) Double in UK and Single in US?
I really like the Double Ring - do i have to move to get Phone to ring that way? ha ha _could it be via phone Company?_
The rings are sent from the exchange, if you were to connect a UK phone to a US phone line you'd hear the single ring and the double ring if you connected a US phone to a UK line.
@@1990chrism HI! Thanks so much! : } guess moving is the answer. Cheers!
@@voltare2amstereo COOL Thanks! Heard of VOIP, not sure how it works - yet. tho - yesterday, Modem went Bonkers, so no chance till Tues, then I'll know if [it] there's a future.
How to make a 29 minute video out of a broken wire.....
The l in solder is silent
Someone might be able to help me out here but I read somewhere that the emergency service number 999 was initially made 999 due to accidental pulse dialing along the phone line. Is that correct or a myth?