DUNE (1984) 4K ULTRAHD BLU-RAY REVIEW | ARROW VIDEO LIMITED EDITION
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2024
- Let’s dive into the world of DUNE, presented in 4K UHD by Arrow Video in this limited edition box set. I’ll review the 4K picture and audio and do an unboxing for you all as well!
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This review is what convinced me to buy it. I LOVE when discs include 2.0 channel audio, and the effort they put into making a quality physical edition needs to be rewarded.
Arrow didn't do this upgrade. It was done by Koch Media for their German release and Arrow just licensed it for their release.
Arrow didn't do the transfer for Dune. Koch Films did. That said, I think the transfer is fantastic and much better than the original Blu-ray.:)
Absolutely right. The new master's was commissioned by Koch Films, which I am glad of too. Koch Films has postponed their Dune releases to mid-October because some of the bonus material did not yet meet Koch Films' quality standards. The Ultimate Collectors Edition with all available cuts is going to be epic. It will be the only release that includes all the cuts. Nevertheless, I am looking forward to the two Arrow releases in advance, simply for the sake of completeness.
This is all I wanted to know 👌🙂
@@4k_bluray_love_502 so the only way to get the extended cut will be to buy a German version?
@@MyFireVideos Yes, in fact TWO extended cuts will be included 😉
1. Is this the same Koch that did the Blu-ray of The Alamo?
2. Can I please have the link to the Koch UCE? The one with all the cuts?
I really enjoyed this transfer and the new sound options but I would have liked them to have done the extended edition. This was a good release and glad I pre ordered it.
The stereo track is DTS-MA (lossless not uncompressed). Also, when it comes to the original theatrical release, IMDB does say it had 6 track Dolby Stereo 70mm print (sort of a precursor to Dolby Surround). During that era, a given theater could have anywhere from a 35mm mono presentation to 70mm 6 track. Star Wars was one of the early 6 track Dolby Stereo presentations. It was Dolby's way of having cleaner discrete channels for a left and right, several center channels, and allowed for one rear surround. It could be delivered either optically on a 70mm blow up (one of the main reasons it was delivered 70mm), or magnetic tape. Also keep in mind that in a theater, one channel can be an array of speakers on one wall: Atmos has changed this in which there's "objects" that can deliver different sounds to each speaker in that array.
Even though Arrow did a lot for this release, I'm not interested because it's the theatrical version and not the (universally better received) extended cut.
What do you mean? There is no extended version, unless you mean the awful Alan Smithee cut. Is that what you mean? I still prefer the theatrical cut over that.
Huge fan of this film. Love the books and the Lynch film is a guilty pleasure. Have not seen it for a while however but have been holding off for this 4k release. For this one I splurged and ordered the Zavvi exclusive deluxe version which apparently has now shipped so can't wait to get that and watch it.... I'll probably watch it with my son who is now old enough to appreciate older classic films and he should enjoy this. We've been going through the Arnie catalog so far and he's been loving those! 😁. Agree the Blu ray is fantastic as it is but for this film I really wanted a premium edition and all those informative special features and can't wait to also dig into those. Great vid Jeff! PS won't be long before you and your son will also be watching classic films together..!! Trust me bro... It goes REALLY REALLY quickly! Enjoy every moment!
I got the deluxe steelbook edition with the Blu-Rays and the art book. The only thing I don’t like about it is the steelbook art is the same as the box art. I always reverse the case art so I get different art than the box, but that’s a small complaint. It’s beautiful and CHUNKY!
Congratulations on the baby! 👍
Congrats on the new baby!!
Old Universal Blu-Rays are pretty notorious for their DNR, edge enhancement, and messy grain structures. It would seem that they weren't terribly aggressive on that old Dune disc.
Most of their old HD-DVD and Blu-ray releases were just their old DVD transfers upscaled from 480i to 1080p, smothered in DNR and EE, and then plopped on a disc. Fortunately most of them have been replaced.
Something I've noticed is that 4K upgrades on older movies look much better than stuff from the 70s forward.
I agree.
If it’s a rescan yeah, most older movies on 1080 blu are usually early blu rays ‘06-‘09
If it was upto David Lynch this movie would never come to 4K and all copies (VHS, DVDs etc) would be destroyed haha
As should anyone who loves movies or Frank Herbert, and unlike you, I'm not being facetious. I read Dune in high school soon after it was published, long before the reviewer, and all or most of the commenters, were born. I've reread it many times and it's a great novel. I had forgotten how profoundly awful this film was (I saw it in a theater when first released) until I streamed it about a year ago. Given its enormous (at the time) budget, this movie is, dollar for dollar, arguably the worst ever made. It's a genuine achievement of sorts for so many talented people to be given this much money and great source material and generate something this jaw droppingly bad. It's almost impossible for the new movie not to be an improvement; I'm looking forward to seeing it in 4K Dolby Vision on HBOMax.
@@marlowe1537 I actually enjoy the film, but "to be fair" to David Lynch, he's really not the right director for a film like this. He's a cryptic artistic director known for small town films. It's amazing that he was ever even offered the opportunity.
As for the whole "unlike you" thing, I think sometimes hardcore fans of source material are in a position where you're so wrapped up in whether an adaptation captures everything about the source that you can't step back well enough to appreciate it for what it is. I'm not knocking that perspective, just stating the reality. No, I've never read the books..but I enjoy the film.
At least the worms don’t look like a giant anus in Lynch’s film.
I think the Blu-Ray is out of print now and sells for ridiculous prices. So if you never purchased the movie on blu-ray, get this release. Dune was the first movie I ever saw as a kid in the movie theater. I had no damn clue about what was happening. I think I was 5 or 6 years old but I loved it. My mom got me some of the toys and I had the book with the cassette. I love this movie even though it's extremely flawed. I can't wait to see the new version which honestly heavily borrowed from this movie from the looks of it in the trailer. Thanks for the honest review like always. Congratulations on your kid!
There is an alternate cover artwork on the reverse side of the cover slip.
Also keep in mind that with the 4k, the blu ray disc is JUST SPECIAL FEATURES . To get 4k and Blu Ray and special features... That's the arrow steelbook
Thank you so much for this info Aaron! Going to order the Steelbook.
That's good to know. I was wondering if the br disc included had the 1080p transfer (which looks better to me). Does the steel book include the extended cut?
This is one of those rare cases where I never noticed any speed records being set to drive over and pick up the Dune blu-ray version when it came out. Those who liked it got the DVD since the price dropped then, or they already had the DVD from day one. So the average fan now will notice a HUGE diff tween the DVD and 4K.
That cover is so cool, wish they used that instead.
Extended TV cut is missing from this release.
A strange decision not to include it since the extended cut is available on Blu Ray for years now and Arrow mostly tries to include all movie versions in its releases.
For me this was the first exposure to both Dune and Lynch. So it still has a special place in my heart, despite the flaws, I still think its a very decent 80s sci fi film with excellent practical effects. Read the books much later. Same for Lynch's work, took decades for me to get into his brand of creativity. Hindsight is always 20/20, but it still puts me into the mindset of my childhood enjoyment.
The Bluray is definitely cleaner, brighter and sharper than the 4K version.
My only gripe is that it doesnt include the extended alan smithee TV cut.
Maybe they had no room and they would have had to include a third disc making the edition more expensive. Besides, the official edition is the theatrical one really.
@@frodo322 i thought i read the 3 disc steelbook coming out next month had it but apparently i was mistaken or they changed their plans. I know it had special features listed that were later removed too.
@@jsb1944 interesting, I didn’t know. If I am getting this new edition is for the packaging and the extras.
@@frodo322 its a beautiful set
It is always worth picking up Arrow box sets - particularly in 4K
Personally I wish the steelbook had the updated artwork.
I very literally don't buy a 4k film until I've heard you review it. Ordered.
Jeff, UNCUT GEMS will also get a 4KUHD release from Criterion!!!
I don't get the hype surrounding that. I felt that film was mediocre. My girlfriend hated it because 90% of the film is shouting and arguing lol
@@HowayTheMags I agreed but Criterion getting into 4K is really big news!!!
@@HowayTheMags It's a proper intense film. Improve your taste
@@vb8428 .....Thanks for contributing. Zzzzzz
@@HowayTheMags Good boy😌
Thanks for the great review. Will water to catch this on sale..
I've not seen an Arrow Limited Edition release that'll go on sale. Usually the stock on the Limited Ed. is gone before it can even be put on sale.
What ends up happening is that they add another SKU which only includes the disk and the plastic box. I did that with the Tremors film that came out last year.
Thanks again Brother for saving me from upgrading from my Blue-ray. No projection system today has Dolby Vision, so I have all I need today.
Jeff , If you get the opportunity could you do is it worth the upgrade videos for Misery in 4k from Kino and The Fog and The Howling 4k Box sets from Studio Canal compared to the previous collector's editions Blu-Rays from Scream Factory?
Just found the Extended Dune DVD SteelBook for a $1 at a FleaMarket.
Dude, don't waste your time. The extended Alan Smithee cut (used for television broadcasts) is utter rubbish! Better to watch the online DUNE REDUX.
Love the cover and artwork except that rainbow band thing at the bottom. I wonder if they’re going to release it in Australia. Would love to buy it.
The rainbow band is like a logo for them. On everything.
Got mine last week. Love it
Any word on if Limitless is getting a 4k release, great movie
Just like you I am missing one slipcover from my Harry Potter collection 🙃 it’s been bugging me for a while
Still waiting on my steelbook to arrive. Bring on Legend!
The original Dune had a 70mm release with 6-track Dolby sound so the 5.1 might be close to that original mix. The “stereo” track is most likely the original Dolby Stereo track from the 35mm prints. The stereo track should be decoded in Dolby Surround or Pro Logic to hear the original surround track.
how about the mono version
I can confirm this, as I saw DUNE at the cinema three times, in London, in early 1985, twice at the Empire Leicester Square, and once when it transferred to the Plaza Lower Regent St. I had to see it three times, just to absorb all the information. Nowadays, I watch for pure visual and audio (yeah, Alan Splet!) pleasure!
I'm looking forward to getting my copy, I'm upgrading from DVD so should notice a big difference. Good detailed review.
Technical-wise, it looks good, with tons of features & paraphernalia. But story-wise?? I assume this is the same movie that was released theatrically in 1984, or a very very close variant. That means this was the 2.25-hour cut that was heavily critiqued & confused audiences, hence the sheet handout given to theater-goers (I still have my copy of the handout). I myself was not confused, for I had read the novel the year before, in 1982-83, before watching the Lynch Dune in 1984. So, if I had my say, I would have had Arrow use the Spicediver Alternative Redux Cut, which already has its own 4k upscale version. To explain, the 3-hour Spicediver version, from 2012, is considered the best Dune cut out there so far, whether made by a studio or a fan, because it gets the story a little clearer, much closer to the novel, as well as adding another 45-60 minutes of unused footage to help exposit the adapted book story onto screen. Of course, you cannot license the Spicediver 4k Dune, because it is a fan-made cut & infringes original licensing & copyrights. But that would have been my choice if I had that kind of power.
The releaser wrongly labeled the 5.1 as an upmix, it is not an upmix
I actually have the HD-DVD (remember those and the format war?) and it looks very good with both 5.1 and 2.0 audio so I am really on the fence with the Arrow 4k which looks like a terrific package. Decisions, decisions!
very
Great video review man. One thing of note, there was a noticeable purple colored imperfection on some scenes in the original movie. It looks as though it has not been corrected in this new 4k transfer. Is this purple hue on the right side corner of the film still present?
I wanted to like the movie, but I can't see myself ever watching if again. Congrats on the baby. Aaugh, another Celtic fan in the world, lol.
I like this film but not enough to go for the upgrade. I'm still happy with my HD-DVD and just watched it again last month. Thanks for the review though. Aarow always does a fantastic job with all the extra stuff included with the movie.
Hi Jeff great video.
never seen or had Dune, my father mentioned it in June so I Pre-ordered it for a Christmas present for him.
Love how they say limited edition but in a few months standard editions will release. They try to make you think if you don’t get the limited edition you’ll miss it forever. I fell for that with Tremors and many others
The standard does not come with any extra stuff, booklet, etc. If those extras do not appeal to you, by all means wait, in fact wait and get on sale. Limited Edition versions never go on sale. Sell out too quickly.
@@mg-ThisHandleIsSoStupid I prefer regular. I paid 70 for Suspiria and that was a good version
hope to get it soon and one of my favourite classic movies
Great review. I watched this one because my friend is getting this Arrow edition and I wanted to know whether he was wasting his money or not. 🤣
And congratulations on becoming a Father.
Great video and really enjoyed the transfer but the movie is all of the place.
have u seen the new version
Hey Jeff! Love your channel. Since Halloween is coming up, I’m wondering if maybe we could get a review of the 4K version of the “Cornetto trilogy”. It’s one of my favorites, and I own all three on Blu-ray; but was wondering if the 4K would be worth upgrading to. Cheers and congrats!
what about the scream halloween
Great review as usual man.
Let the spice flow in 4k
Just received the steelbook in the post looks great
is the movie on brick and mortar shelves
I noticed that there is not a blu-ray or digital copy in this release. It's a bummer that that there is no blu-ray included. I like to have both. I can live without the digital copy but it goes against the norm with most 4k releases. When looking at the versions available at Amazon there is a steel book edition and special edition that will be released in December. Do you have any details of what will be different in these two versions?
To be honest I probably would not have like Lynch's Dune. I LOVE Dino DeLaurentiis's Dune. I've seen so many "Directors Cuts" that don't add anything to the film and in some cases detract (see Leon), and while in a lot of the cases they don't have anything to do with director (see Leon, theatrical cut is the director cut) most of the time the cut you see is better (concise, streamlined), but with Lynch disowning this film and they fact I love it, I have to give this to the producer. Conan the Barbarian is god level film...
I also don't like the TV series, loads more time and do so little with it.
This isn't meant as click bait and if you like series I'm jealous, wish I could.
My only fear of new Dune is I don't see how you can do a PG version, but director is a fucking wizard, so we'll see 🤔
Shame they pulled the sleeper must awaken doc, to be honest the extras on the Bluray disc is really lackluster 😒
Great review! But I think I’ll stick with the old blu ray
Great review, Jeff! Who is doing the release with the different cuts of the film?
I thought i read it was coming out on the steelbook version, but that doesn't appear to be the case. The extended TV cut seems to remain DVD exclusive sadly.
Koch Media out of Germany. They are the ones who did this Arrow Transfer. So only their releases will have. If i am not mistaken.
I got the Deluxe steelbook from zavvi. Can’t wait to get mine.
Cool but wich version of the film is the arrow one?
I read it was cut...again
why
Thanks for the video review
Hi Jeff I hope you catch this question. Is there a difference between the 4K HDR version and the 4K UHD? I saw it in 2 different stores but there was a $10 difference between the 2. UHD being more. Thanks, John
ARE YOU GOING TO REVIEW 4K UHD OF "THE THING" (1982)? I bought it but do not want to open yet until I hear how DTS:X is.
Despite this being 24 bit padded, the 5.1 track of Arrow retains all the dynamic range as the old Universal track without being clipped (as the old Universal is) and other 5.1 tracks among other BDS, also compared the newest AUS 5.1 and it's even worse than old Universal BD/Arrow. Also includes true og stereo audio. My guess FiM put the tracks as 24 bit not to cause uproar or some dumb reviewers thinking 24 bits is everything...
Yeah 16 bit can sound great as long as it’s mixed well
Just ordered hope it’s worth the 40 bucks
I have to admit I was never a fan of this movie long and boring but I know this is very subjective and personal taste
Its actually similar to the book in terms of pacing.
Hey @Films At Home I am very new to the channel. I have my first 4k TV being delivered on Thursday (Samsung QN95a, IJ am in England and got this for Ps5 gaming mainly). Back in the day I had a few hundered DVDs but when blu-ray came out I didn't want to rebuy all my movies again, sounds like the same thing is happening with 4K disks. Just so I understand your reviews do you review the movie itself or mainly the technical publication of the 4k Disk and content?
Mainly the technical content of the disc
Hi please tell me what you think of The quality of pictures from this. I use the media streamer kodi and some apk’s I get a lot of movies that are like 30-40 Gb and 10 bit with either 4K hdr or Dolby Vision sometimes. Are these videos better quality than a Netflix 4K Dolby Vision. It looks like they are I’ve never seen ten bit Netflix please tell me what you think thank you I really like your channel. Long time subscriber.
Hi. Do you have excel list of all you're movies?
i ordered this and the box art is so faded and cheap looking, is it a manufacturing issue or whats up? im thinking about returning it... still in the packaging
Can you review the Zack Snyder trilogy box set?
Great review, thanks. Any thoughts on the packaging difference with two 4k versions? I'm bummed that they finally included a blu ray with the 4k, but the sandwork art is SO much better. Include the blu ray automatically people! Having to choose between 2 versions? C'mon... lol
Are there two 4K versions of this film? I think the blu ray disc on this one doesn’t have the move, it’s just the extras.
Just extras…
There's the steelbook version coming out that has the 4k, the extras and a separate disc for the blu ray movie
Compare it to the HD-DVD release haha
Does it have the deleted scenes added to the 4K film?
No
There are deleted scenes extra… and yeah those were cut for good reasons!
Just got this yesterday I have to say very disappointed with it the picture quality I though was not that great....
it's hdr
@@kascnef should I just turn it down or off to improve the picture?
Amazing review! I have mine on the way…now that you did Dune 4K review is there any chance for going back and doing Blade Runner 4K review? People say it’s one of the best 4K transfers.
He did that some years ago…
@@haukionkannel it was for the 2049 version.
@@haukionkannel 1982 film FAH hasn’t reviewed yet only 2049
This reveals how overrated Dolby Vision is, The Blu Ray looks far sharper. and clearer. I have said many times, Dolby has an orange tint, like the warm setting on a 4k tv.
Do people actually like this movie? I thought it was awful.
I like it as a cultural artifact. The movie’s not good, but I find kind of fascinating in terms of an art house filmmaker who specializes in weird and off-putting films like David Lynch being courted to direct a big-budget sci-fi epic, having his budget slashed, and kicked out of the editing room when what he shot was weird and off-putting. The producers were wanting the next Star Wars, and what they got was… Dune.
I have it, only because I'm a David Lynch fan. That said, I doubt Lynch had anything to do with the Arrow release. He's disavowed the movie. Dino De Laurentiis destroyed his vision and cut it to pieces. He's not even interested in going back and doing his own director's cut. He's definitely moved on! FYI: The new Denis Villeneuve "Dune: Part One" opens on October 22, 2021. 85% RT "rating" from early reviews so far. Mostly raves, but not all, obviously. I predict it will be a B.O. bomb, however, and we won't see a "Part 2."
So, it’ll be another Blade Runner 2049?
@@ajzeg01 Probably! But, who knows?
Sorry, dude, Dune Pt. 2 has been greenlit.
@@richardconnold5207 Funny, I'm not. And I'm not even sad about being wrong., either. In fact, I'm glad I was wrong about a sequel. I liked "Part 1" quite a bit. But you're, of course, free to remain "sorry " if you want to!
Bro lol the blu ray screenshots look better 😆
Ur high
@@AssClapCowboy no way i was on the floor when i saw these 😂
When I found out they cast Zendaya in the new Dune, I lost all interest.
Agree. I hope She is barely in it. ?
The fact that one of the commentary tracks on the first disc discusses the similarities between Adolf Hitler and Donald Trump is so unpleasant, exhausting, and inappropriate.
I totally reject the idea that everything in life, from dating to sports to a commentary track on David Lynch’s Dune, has to be poisoned by midwit tribal politics.
We all need a break from this occasionally.
Great to hear the transfer is top notch. But I’ll hold onto my bluray. I own this movie because of how horrible it is. And I mean truly horrible. This isn’t something I need to own in 4k. The packaging is enticing, but I can’t justify spending $50 after taxes for it
Too bad Dune is by far one of the worst movies ever made. A total piece of shit.