I saw in IMAX and Nolan wasn't joking when he said "Don't try to understand it just feel it". The dialogue was hard to understand in some scenes but honestly between the soundtrack, sound effects, and visuals it makes up for it. My wife said I had the biggest grin on my face the entire second half. It was the best movie experience I've ever had!
I was able to fix the audio issue, did take alot of work by remastering the entire track to a 7.1 hra and it does makes a difference for people with budget speakers or tv speakers
COVID made the similar circumstances around the Dark Knight Rises impossible. People in early/test screenings complained so much about Bane being impossible to hear that Nolan was forced to fix it. I think he over corrected and his voice sounds weirdly too loud and clear in the mix. Who knows what could have been if there were comments from test screenings of TENET.
@@brucecarter6205 amen. How can I guy of his talent and creativity command a movie and mix the sound which is fantastic and bombastic but........................you can’t here the dialogue. Really! Nolan operates on a different level than most filmmakers but to purposefully muddle the dialogue is an infantile mistake.
Dude, in Interstellar when Coop is going the worm hole, my subwoofer was vibrating so hard if you had a glass of water on it it would tipped over. I thought it was going to break.
I watched some Ludwig Göransson interviews on youtube about making the score for this movie. When he went to Nolan's house to play him some of the pieces made so far for feedback, Nolan turned the volume "up to 11" and the whole house was shaking. His volume mixing issues start to make more sense now. Great review!
Is Nolan suffering from hearing loss? You would think an director of his stature would be able to hear things at lower volumes, not earth shattering volumes. Those kinds of things affects badly if the background music in a visual production overpowers the actors dialogue in the film.
Everything I've read or heard says the dialogue is hard to make out :( And yes, these audio choices are intentional. Nolan has stated this several times for several of his films-even some other directors were like, "you might want to reconsider the audio for Tenet..." I personally didn't have too much issue even on first viewing during Interstellar or TDKR, but I can see why some folks would. My bigger concern is how loud the action scenes get. In this and every other review people have said this is a LOUD audio mix and I live in a town house... Well, hopefully my neighbors don't call the cops when I finally get to see this movie next week lol Also, I know I am dreaming, but I really, really hope they do a limited theatrical re-release next summer since this movie didn't get the viewing it deserved due to Covid. My brother and I have have gone to the midnight IMAX premiere of all of his movies since TDKR and we planned to for this movie for sure, but we couldn't this time around. Whether you like Nolan or not, it's undeniable that he is one of the few working directors who makes blockbuster "event films" where it's basically a must see in theaters experience, so it's really sad to see this movie not get the theatrical treatment it deserved in most areas.
Couldn’t agree more. Nolan himself said that Tenet was going to be in the theaters for a long time due to the pandemic, and he encouraged everyone who wanted to go see it do so at a time when they felt most comfortable. But still, this movie was robbed of the numbers that it could’ve garnered, had it been released under better circumstances. I would also definitely love to see this film again in theaters. Definitely an unforgettable experience when I saw it
I didn't get to see this in theater either because of Covid-19 but from everyone I talked too that saw it your review is 100% spot on. The two big takes are that you will probably leave your first viewing wondering what the heck is going on and the fact you literally can not understand what is said most of the time just adds to your confusion of what is going on. Most of the people I talked to said you will want to watch it with close captioning on. For sure on a 2nd viewing.
@@brodysdaddy if you didn't know, there are imax screens that are barely a few feet taller than traditional movie screens, but with the full imax sound system. Many people differentiate these smaller screens from the ~97 foot "real/true" IMAX
@@micdoses1 What I don't like about the lie-MAX and RPX screens is that there is an extra charge although most of these screens are definitely large but nothing out of the ordinary. Case in point: My local theater has a 67 foot wide screen (30 feet high) which is about the size of (or larger than) most of the Lie-MAX or RPX screens but there is no additional charge for that. And that is true for all of these big screens where I live. Bottom line, I think the extra charge is just a scam unless it is a real IMAX screen (90 feet wide and equivalent height)
I saw it in Dolby Cinema and there was more clarity. There were still a few conversations but less than the IMAX in comparison according to friends. Closed captions are a must!
I saw this on Imax, and I loved the film but the audio was PAINFULLY loud, and the dialogue was very difficult to hear. I can't wait to watch this on 4k, and use subtitles. Also the ability to turn the volume down will help.
IMAX is supposed to be loud. It’s advertised as the ultimate in picture and sound for a reason. What’s annoying to me is going to the IMAX and the volume is way too low. That happens far more often imo.
Imax is designed for the ultimate in audio and video fidelity. Cranking it to 11 doesn't make something sound better. My wife and I will see everything in Imax if the option is given. 99% of the films we've seen over the past 10 years have been presented in a loud, but balanced and dynamic level that wasn't screaming at you. Dunkirk was loud when it needed to be. Gunfire and such. It was awesome. It made sense. But dialog shouldn't sound like it's shouting/screaming at you every time.
@@alanlindsay8310, ultimate does mean loud, at least for me anyway. Your preference doesn’t mean correct. Dunkirk and Tenet were equally loud experiences in my local IMAX. I’m pretty sure the volume level on Nolan’s films are stipulated by him and the studio. His movie and his vision, end of story.
Agreed. Nolan has been on record that this is how he wants his films presented. It's just a shame that the majority of people that pay to see his films feel that the audio level and presentation for Tenet were crap. Imax just made it louder crap.
Saw this movie in theaters. I thought it was a great thoroughly well weaved story. I wasn't confused by it like most people. I think it's Nolan's best movie. I did have any audio problems with the movie when i saw it in theaters. I do not know what these people are complaining about. Definitely going to buy this movie.
I didn’t mind the music drowning out the dialogue cause the music was SO FRIGGIN GOOD. I was was bobbing my head in the theater not even caring what the characters were saying 😂
Yeah only a couple of lines were a bit hard to hear if you have your volume set a bit low. But if you bump it up a few notches you can hear everything just fine. Albeit it you might have a bit of hearing loss later in life. Lol
I was fortunate enough to see Tenet in IMAX and thoroughly enjoyed it. A terrific high-concept action thriller, beautifully constructed by Nolan and his team. As to the switching of aspect ratios; I even noted it at the cinema, but it is a stylistic choice that I respect from a filmmaker of Christopher Nolan's caliber. I feel the same with the sound 'issues'. I can remember a short sequence - I think at the airport - where dialogue is quite intentionally drowned out. This was clearly designed to make the viewer (listener?) work at trying to hear exactly what was going on. Just another level of frustration designed to make the experience even more confusing and immersive. I hope that the disc (out Monday in the UK) isn't quite as muddy as you suggest and that my system can cope. I guess we'll see. Have seen? Might see in the past? 🤔 Whatever happens, a great review as always. Keep up the great work 👍👌🖖
First movie i've ever watched that i couldn't fully wrap my head around first viewing. Those IMAX scenes though, literally as perfect quality as you could ever imagine.
I find it funny that we have to go through this sound issue with every Nolan release, it's nothing new though this has been his choice for most of his career. He likes a somewhat muffled sound mix, it's his artistic choice, not a mistake or error. (not directing this statement at you Jeff, just a general observation) I think it's a bad choice but I get it and I like to experience a film the way the creator intended ususally. I saw TENET one a fantastic IMAX sceen in Nashville and it looks and sounds amazing. My group did have trouble with dialog, as expected, but we got enough out of it to follow this very complex story and were pleased. I know I'm going to have watch any Nolan film a 2nd time at home with subtitles and that's ok. I watch nearly everything with subtitles, it's a personal preference to make sure I catch names and other stuff, it's also why I've never had an issue with foreign films as well. But as for TENET, it's really good and I can't wait to watch it again.
I'm glad you mentioned about dialogue because I've noticed when I listening to my Blu-ray films the dialogue is not clear, I always thought it was my system, but it's not I was told by someone it is the way they mix the DVD films. because I've got a good surround sound system and i notice when I'm watching my DVDs films some parts of the films I can't hear the dialogue properly! It gets me so annoyed because I miss out on the film of understanding the story line.
Interesting review, thx Jeff. I love Christopher Nolan movies, but his aspect ratio shifting is not friendly to us with fixed 2.35 screens and projectors. Guess I’ll watch at 1.78 which is a lose lose situation 🥲
TENET was an awesome imax experience. I have brought the 4k and will be watching this weekend. cannot wait. Loved it so much, i dont get why people were so down on it. While the audio is muddled at times it never got in the way of either me or my missus understanding of the film. i kinda get why he did it (people in masks etc) but you can get that across well and still make it clear they are behind masks without obscuring speech.
My first viewing in IMAX when Neil first appears and says, “it seems you need an introduction to a prominent Mumbai local on short notice” might as well have been complete gibberish lol.
I watched this movie tonight in Bluray quality with headphones and had no issue with hearing the dialogue but the score was definitely louder than most movies. I thought the movie was epic with all the twists and cinematic experience in inverse scenes. I may have to see if the DTS HD Master 5.1 is hard to hear the dialogue when using my 5.1 setup instead of headphones. I can't watch a movie late at night that's loud in the living room through speakers because I have a wife and daughter sleeping, who get up much earlier than me. The solution to the dialogue issue may be to use headphones, not closed captioning. I also boost my center speaker sound already with my AV receiver to make dialogue more clear. My setup is only modest because high end is out of my price range.
Dialogue probably won’t bother me too much because I’m weird and put on subtitles. Really wanted to get this on 4K. Thanks for the review, now I can wait for some sort of sale instead of handing over the $30.
I love Nolan but its time he sorts out his sound mix. I saw Tenet in IMAX so it wasn't a big issue, but I've watched his previous films on 4K and I was constantly adjusting the volume, the effects were too loud and the dialogue was too low. I'll still get Tenet on 4K because of the IMAX/65mm sequences alone, as they look spectacular on a 4K UHD TV.
I didn’t enjoy this as much as I usually do Nolan’s films. Most of the others are life-integral-classics but there was something not quite right with this one. Something almost intangible missing. My first thoughts are that it was the casting. I didn’t quite attach to the characters the way I normally would in his previous movies. The other issue is that I’ve recently began to doubt what we’ve been told to believe in the last 30 years about black holes and time travel. I’m kind of buying into the talk that it’s all just mathmagical crap. I think he tries to be “cool” by avoiding using particular SFX but in doing so in this movie, it kind of cheesed-it-up for me. They walk into a black box and its door spins and they come out the other side converted to matter that travels backwards in time??? 😖 Hmmm. A step too far for me. I might have bought it more if they showed some sort of matter transition process or electromagnetic field altering them but Nolan thinks such things as trivial and unnecessary. It was an entertaining one-off-watch for me. Probably better released on Netflix as one of those obscurities you watch in a desperate moment of boredom.
Saw it in IMAX 1570 and the sound mix for the dialogue was almost incomprehensible. It was actually better when I saw it a few weeks later in 70mm in a normal theatre.
Hm, didn't have any issues with the dialogue... but we do have a humble 3.1 audio setup with boosted dialogue tracks plus enabled subtitles by default. My least favorite part about watching movies in theatres is the lack of subtitles, and possibility that I might miss some dialogue. I read much better than I can hear
Watching this film in IMAX was the best film experience I’ve ever had. Both in regards to the film itself and the technical aspects such as the visuals and the audio. Absolutely breathtaking.
Sadly I have no IMAX cinemas where I live, so I always love when I watch a Nolan film on Blu-ray or 4K Blu-ray for the first time. I can find out which scenes were filmed with IMAX cameras.
I saw it twice, once in a regular theatre and second in an IMAX 1570 format screening here in Melbourne. Huge improvement on dialogue audibility in the IMAX theatre compared to Hoyts in which the dialogue was so muffled it made me really not enjoy the movie. Redeemed itself on the IMAX screening however.
I can boost the center channel or use subtitles if I have to, but it's a day one buy for me. Not too happy about the stacking discs, but I'll do what you did. Thanks, very helpful review!
It Drives Me Crazy that Discs keep getting stacked!! I usually always have my center bump up above everything else, so when I actually get this, I’ll be interested to see how it sounds. I honestly don’t think it’ll make a difference.
Hey, man! Great review. I keep seeing people say this in the comments of my video but I honestly didn't have an issue with it. I mean, maybe it's just me? The sound was crazy loud for sure lol In my video I mentioned that I didn't even have the volume up more than half way and I had to lower it haha Still though, I didn't have a problem with the dialogue. I'm gonna have to go back and take a look at everything. Wish I had known about the issue first.
Glad to see I’m not the only one who had issues understanding what the heck people were saying. Not saying I didn’t enjoy it, but half of my issues understanding the plot were because I couldn’t hear the dang dialogue (even in the “quiet” parts). Nolan really needs to let other people do the sound mixing for him. Still thought it was a great movie though!
Thank You for the thorough review Jeff. After hearing the report, I think that I might wait on this one awhile. Probably will wait until the price goes down.
Great review. I saw this movie in the theater in xd and the audio was still difficult to make out especially in the beginning. There were Twitter comments on Noland Twitter from other directors mentioning about the audio mixing. When I get it I plan on using subtitles. I loved this movie and it is definitely a 2nd or third watch
The hardest time I had hearing people was when they in the water on that sail transport thing. That was understandable though because they were outside on the water wearing helmets with microphones. Other than that I heard fine mostly. Like 90% of the dialogue was intelligible for me. Maybe it's because I heard about all the audio issues going in so I listened more intently... 🤷🏾♂️ Loved the movie overall especially the IMAX sequences and score!
With the dark knight and interstellar he keeps switching between fullscreen Imax and black bars. But when it is with those black bars everything's so out of focus and unsharp. Nolan's really dropping a ball there.
Agree. I find it very distracting and feel like I'm switching from 4k back to 720p back and forth within seconds. I don't understand how people praise the Dark Knight 4k release when the only great thing about it is the IMAX scenes. I feel the same about MI:Fallout. IMAX scenes, amazing, otherwise everything is very soft looking.
I saw it in the theater, didn’t have any complaints about the audio mix and didn’t get all the fuss about it. Nolan’s style of storytelling frequently deals in incomplete information, and the approach to the dialogue is clearly part of that. The experience is a whole lot more enjoyable if you just roll with it rather than stressing over the fact that you can’t make out every word.
Good point. However, I think the movie could have even more impact if we could properly understand the dialog. I’ve come to accept this from Nolan, but I still hope he addresses it in future films. 🤷♂️
DTS-HD MA 5.1 is always my favourite. No dialogue issue for me, everything is loud and clear. Bass is so damn freaking crazy....... my subwoofer forgives me for that.
I agree. I hate when they stack disc. I also wish Best Buy would have disc side by side, in their steelbooks, like the older bluray steelbooks. Not on top of one another.
In their cinematic presentations in IMAX theaters, scenes shot in IMAX format from the movies The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises were projected with an aspect ratio of 1.43:1. 1.90: 1 only for DVD/Blu ray!
The only time I've ever been able to parse the dialogue in most of this film was when I watched it wearing headphones. That made all the difference in the world. I've got a 7.0 surround setup at home and it still sounded like the speakers were full of mud any time somebody spoke, whether there was any music in the scene or not. That's just inexcusable. I'm normally on the filmmaker's side in almost any dispute with the studio, but in this one instance I wish the studio had just overruled him and made him mix it so it was intelligible.
Nolan movies need a few viewings for sure! But what a better reason for physical media! Too bad about the audio though. Denzel is my favorite actor too, I wasn't actually aware his son was there but the moment he spoke I recognized it. Carrying the torch! Got to see this one at the theater, so glad I was now that we're in lockdown again. I've always got my center channel raised by a few db's (age and hearing lol)
I love the channel and I think you’ve been making great changes along the way but i wanted to say i honestly nearly click off with that intro everytime. Maybe something less obnoxious, idk i never was a huge fan of your old intro but this one is really bad. Not trying to be mean i really love the channel just trying to give feedback.
I think it would be helpful to viewers of your movie reviews, to change your movie release information from being vague with that, important, information, by saying, something like, “it will be released in a few days,” or it will be released next week,” to stating the actual release date, including, month, day, and year. I am a subscriber who enjoys giving thumbs up!
I cant wait to play this movie at home. I love the introduction and the music was pumping me up. Also I enjoy my Polk mini 2.1 speaker system and I know there are better audio systems but I do enjoy them when the volume is high.
I'm using a projector with a cinemascope shaped screen, and these movies with changing aspect ratio suck. If I'm setting the zoom to fill the screen on cinemascope, the "imax" scenes bleed above and below the screen. And if I'm setting it so that the full screen image fits between the top and bottom of the screen, then the scenes in 'scope appear small in the midle of the screen. It really ruined my experience watching Interstellar in my home theater.
@@elcabri Anything with changing ratios makes you switch to constant width mode. If the higher aspect ratio appears too small on your screen you should upgrade your screen size.
I will say, i purchased the steelbook version and the movies are not stacked, stacked physical releases feel unbelievably 'cheap' to me. i dont want to feel something i purchased was not made with the customer in mind. i will also say, i watched this with a samsung soundbar at home and the movie watching experience is still incredible. i also watched this movie in imax and had issues in some moments at the theater but as others have said the sheer visuals and music made this one of the best movie watching experiences of my life.
Just bought the steel book edition of the movie today & the aspect ratio definitely threw me off. Normally I just won't watch it but because it's Nolan & I understand the reasoning behind his choice, It's all good ☺️ The 4K resolution is definitely beautiful & I had no problem with the audio. Mind you, I'm a audio freak & my sound has to be perfect for the viewing experience 👌 If anything, The aspect ratio changes just adds to the reasons I love Nolan. It's not for everyone, But this is exactly why I love his work ❤️
Watched on the Samsung HW-Q90R and the dialog was fine. Inaudible at times but that's where the subtitles help. The scene with the cargo choppers near the end shook the whole apartment windows were rattling had to turn it down. This 5.1 mix is BETTER than a lot of some dolby atmos mixes I've heard.
Solid review man. Newcomer to your channel and really enjoying it thus far great work! I’ve been reading Highdefdigest for years for their reviews and it’s a good departure to see it. Just got my SVS PB 16 Ultra a few months ago and I am SOOO looking forward to watching this Tuesday night! Keep up the good work!
I thought you were joking at first, because your dialog is muffled. No joke. I could understand you wayyyy better than tenet. I watched the movie with closed caption on to understand it all. Klipsch, svs, and denon here... don’t know why it was made to sound this way.
Surprisingly, I watched the movie without captions and with my tv speakers. For me it worked (somehow) because my tv is in my room and I'm only 7-8 away from my tv and the sound is def bouncing off the walls. Don't get me wrong, I still have issues with the dialogue but in a closed bedroom environment, it somehow to my favor. Also, I like watching this movie when I'm drinking and I have a buzz.
Has anyone noticed glitches/blocking in this movie? I just watched it on UHD, the scene in the lab, when the girl walks across the screen from left to right @14.41 there are blocks around her. I watched on the bluray disc too and its exactly the same. There's also some during the yacht race scene. FYI I'm playing on an xbox series x if that makes any difference. I've never noticed it before on any of my other movies.
Man!!!!! I am saving so much mula 💰 by buying second hand 1080p Blu rays and taking advantage of my 4k LG player and my LG OLED 55 CX’s buIlt in HDR programming function. It looks incredible in 1080 in HDR rather than playing an extra £20/$20 dollars 💵 for a slight 4k CX improvement in clarity (SLIGHTLY)
I saw in IMAX and Nolan wasn't joking when he said "Don't try to understand it just feel it". The dialogue was hard to understand in some scenes but honestly between the soundtrack, sound effects, and visuals it makes up for it. My wife said I had the biggest grin on my face the entire second half. It was the best movie experience I've ever had!
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"We live in a physical world. There are no friends at Netflix."
I like this. Although to be honest, Netflix still supports physical media a bit.
Haha!!
No Netflix. No the Irishman. No criterion blu ray.
@@FastEddie86 the irishman is good. But I can live without it.
Good one 😂😂
"Is the audio fixed?"
My neighbors didn't think so. And they're about 6 miles away. I also need to replace all windows in my house since watching it.
Why?
Watched it last nigh. New Year’s Eve. Yes, broken windows and cracked plaster, and ear to ear grins on our faces !
It's not broken.
I was able to fix the audio issue, did take alot of work by remastering the entire track to a 7.1 hra and it does makes a difference for people with budget speakers or tv speakers
At my age I routinely watch movies with subtitles on. Being able to understand what is being said isn't a distraction to me, it adds to my enjoyment.
I personally liked Tenet a lot even in theaters on the imax with the muddled sound. Sad to hear the issues weren’t fixed
COVID made the similar circumstances around the Dark Knight Rises impossible. People in early/test screenings complained so much about Bane being impossible to hear that Nolan was forced to fix it. I think he over corrected and his voice sounds weirdly too loud and clear in the mix. Who knows what could have been if there were comments from test screenings of TENET.
Unacceptable from a filmmaker of his pedigree. Loved the movie otherwise.
I mean what did you expect it’s Nolan lol
@@AaronMont, well actually, tbh I have come to expect this from Nolan.
That said, I still don’t like it and wish he would rethink it personally.
@@brucecarter6205 amen. How can I guy of his talent and creativity command a movie and mix the sound which is fantastic and bombastic but........................you can’t here the dialogue. Really! Nolan operates on a different level than most filmmakers but to purposefully muddle the dialogue is an infantile mistake.
Dude, in Interstellar when Coop is going the worm hole, my subwoofer was vibrating so hard if you had a glass of water on it it would tipped over. I thought it was going to break.
I watched some Ludwig Göransson interviews on youtube about making the score for this movie. When he went to Nolan's house to play him some of the pieces made so far for feedback, Nolan turned the volume "up to 11" and the whole house was shaking. His volume mixing issues start to make more sense now.
Great review!
Is Nolan suffering from hearing loss? You would think an director of his stature would be able to hear things at lower volumes, not earth shattering volumes. Those kinds of things affects badly if the background music in a visual production overpowers the actors dialogue in the film.
I saw this in IMAX 70mm film in Indianapolis four times. The visuals and the music are out of this world epic
I found your channel less then a week ago and I'm already auto watching your uploads.
Great review
Thanks and welcome aboard!
Everything I've read or heard says the dialogue is hard to make out :( And yes, these audio choices are intentional. Nolan has stated this several times for several of his films-even some other directors were like, "you might want to reconsider the audio for Tenet..." I personally didn't have too much issue even on first viewing during Interstellar or TDKR, but I can see why some folks would.
My bigger concern is how loud the action scenes get. In this and every other review people have said this is a LOUD audio mix and I live in a town house... Well, hopefully my neighbors don't call the cops when I finally get to see this movie next week lol
Also, I know I am dreaming, but I really, really hope they do a limited theatrical re-release next summer since this movie didn't get the viewing it deserved due to Covid. My brother and I have have gone to the midnight IMAX premiere of all of his movies since TDKR and we planned to for this movie for sure, but we couldn't this time around. Whether you like Nolan or not, it's undeniable that he is one of the few working directors who makes blockbuster "event films" where it's basically a must see in theaters experience, so it's really sad to see this movie not get the theatrical treatment it deserved in most areas.
Couldn’t agree more. Nolan himself said that Tenet was going to be in the theaters for a long time due to the pandemic, and he encouraged everyone who wanted to go see it do so at a time when they felt most comfortable. But still, this movie was robbed of the numbers that it could’ve garnered, had it been released under better circumstances. I would also definitely love to see this film again in theaters. Definitely an unforgettable experience when I saw it
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I didn't get to see this in theater either because of Covid-19 but from everyone I talked too that saw it your review is 100% spot on. The two big takes are that you will probably leave your first viewing wondering what the heck is going on and the fact you literally can not understand what is said most of the time just adds to your confusion of what is going on. Most of the people I talked to said you will want to watch it with close captioning on. For sure on a 2nd viewing.
I saw this in a real IMAX theater in Colorado. It was incredible.
Agreed! My friend and I were the only ones in the theatre too. I was completely immersed
I agree, BHG.
Good idea to stay away from all the fake IMAX theaters in Colorado....
@@brodysdaddy if you didn't know, there are imax screens that are barely a few feet taller than traditional movie screens, but with the full imax sound system. Many people differentiate these smaller screens from the ~97 foot "real/true" IMAX
I was fortunate to see this in a real IMAX in New Jersey, absolutely loved it!
It was amazing.
Which one did you go to? I know the one in the mall close to the airport in Newark. But I am pretty sure that it is not a proper IMAX.
I remember watching Interstellar in RPX thats a few feet bigger then imax screen best time of my life
@@micdoses1 What I don't like about the lie-MAX and RPX screens is that there is an extra charge although most of these screens are definitely large but nothing out of the ordinary. Case in point: My local theater has a 67 foot wide screen (30 feet high) which is about the size of (or larger than) most of the Lie-MAX or RPX screens but there is no additional charge for that. And that is true for all of these big screens where I live. Bottom line, I think the extra charge is just a scam unless it is a real IMAX screen (90 feet wide and equivalent height)
I saw it in Dolby Cinema and there was more clarity. There were still a few conversations but less than the IMAX in comparison according to friends. Closed captions are a must!
I saw this on Imax, and I loved the film but the audio was PAINFULLY loud, and the dialogue was very difficult to hear. I can't wait to watch this on 4k, and use subtitles. Also the ability to turn the volume down will help.
Yep. Our local Imax theater is perfectly setup and it was the loudest I've heard since Mad Max Fury Road. Far too loud imo.
IMAX is supposed to be loud. It’s advertised as the ultimate in picture and sound for a reason. What’s annoying to me is going to the IMAX and the volume is way too low. That happens far more often imo.
Imax is designed for the ultimate in audio and video fidelity. Cranking it to 11 doesn't make something sound better. My wife and I will see everything in Imax if the option is given. 99% of the films we've seen over the past 10 years have been presented in a loud, but balanced and dynamic level that wasn't screaming at you. Dunkirk was loud when it needed to be. Gunfire and such. It was awesome. It made sense. But dialog shouldn't sound like it's shouting/screaming at you every time.
@@alanlindsay8310, ultimate does mean loud, at least for me anyway. Your preference doesn’t mean correct.
Dunkirk and Tenet were equally loud experiences in my local IMAX. I’m pretty sure the volume level on Nolan’s films are stipulated by him and the studio. His movie and his vision, end of story.
Agreed. Nolan has been on record that this is how he wants his films presented. It's just a shame that the majority of people that pay to see his films feel that the audio level and presentation for Tenet were crap. Imax just made it louder crap.
Saw this movie in theaters. I thought it was a great thoroughly well weaved story. I wasn't confused by it like most people. I think it's Nolan's best movie. I did have any audio problems with the movie when i saw it in theaters. I do not know what these people are complaining about. Definitely going to buy this movie.
I didn’t mind the music drowning out the dialogue cause the music was SO FRIGGIN GOOD. I was was bobbing my head in the theater not even caring what the characters were saying 😂
Big facts
Atleast at home we can turn on subtitles now
Lol!! Nice!!
I saw it in theaters and I preordered. I'm just a Nolan fanboy
Big same
Definitely
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Dude dont say sh** like that🤦
Great movie. Audio mix was a Nolan mix. Not surprising but it's all about the scope of this movie. Ground breaking and epic.
I watched this movie on a soundbar hooked up to my PS5. I was able to hear the dialogue fine
Yeah only a couple of lines were a bit hard to hear if you have your volume set a bit low. But if you bump it up a few notches you can hear everything just fine. Albeit it you might have a bit of hearing loss later in life. Lol
I was fortunate enough to see Tenet in IMAX and thoroughly enjoyed it. A terrific high-concept action thriller, beautifully constructed by Nolan and his team.
As to the switching of aspect ratios; I even noted it at the cinema, but it is a stylistic choice that I respect from a filmmaker of Christopher Nolan's caliber. I feel the same with the sound 'issues'. I can remember a short sequence - I think at the airport - where dialogue is quite intentionally drowned out. This was clearly designed to make the viewer (listener?) work at trying to hear exactly what was going on. Just another level of frustration designed to make the experience even more confusing and immersive.
I hope that the disc (out Monday in the UK) isn't quite as muddy as you suggest and that my system can cope. I guess we'll see. Have seen? Might see in the past? 🤔
Whatever happens, a great review as always. Keep up the great work 👍👌🖖
I ended up turning the subtitles on and off throughout the movie.
Just...keep them on?
I don't know what's worse, that you didn't just leave them on or that so far 16 people did the same thing.
@@Filmssentials Subtitles are incredibly distracting during action sequences. Can totally understand turning them off during those.
@@ZodsSnappedNeck They really are not, if you just get used to subtitles, you don't even notice that they're there.
@@ZodsSnappedNeck to be fair the subtitles wont often appear during action sequences because of the minimal dialogue
First movie i've ever watched that i couldn't fully wrap my head around first viewing. Those IMAX scenes though, literally as perfect quality as you could ever imagine.
I find it funny that we have to go through this sound issue with every Nolan release, it's nothing new though this has been his choice for most of his career. He likes a somewhat muffled sound mix, it's his artistic choice, not a mistake or error. (not directing this statement at you Jeff, just a general observation) I think it's a bad choice but I get it and I like to experience a film the way the creator intended ususally. I saw TENET one a fantastic IMAX sceen in Nashville and it looks and sounds amazing. My group did have trouble with dialog, as expected, but we got enough out of it to follow this very complex story and were pleased.
I know I'm going to have watch any Nolan film a 2nd time at home with subtitles and that's ok. I watch nearly everything with subtitles, it's a personal preference to make sure I catch names and other stuff, it's also why I've never had an issue with foreign films as well. But as for TENET, it's really good and I can't wait to watch it again.
I'm glad you mentioned about dialogue because I've noticed when I listening to my Blu-ray films the dialogue is not clear, I always thought it was my system, but it's not I was told by someone it is the way they mix the DVD films. because I've got a good surround sound system and i notice when I'm watching my DVDs films some parts of the films I can't hear the dialogue properly! It gets me so annoyed because I miss out on the film of understanding the story line.
Saw it in 70mm IMAX loudest movie I've ever experienced my seat was vibrating
Agreed. This was just a notch louder than dunkirk. So good.
Did you still have trouble hearing the dialogue
Same!
This movie was really loud in our IMAX, but jesus, my ears were ringing for a week after Dunkirk.
And in a way that just means we’re approaching pushed movie loudness just like Music currently is.
Interesting review, thx Jeff. I love Christopher Nolan movies, but his aspect ratio shifting is not friendly to us with fixed 2.35 screens and projectors. Guess I’ll watch at 1.78 which is a lose lose situation 🥲
Wouldn’t have been friendly on 2.35:1 anyway, since Tenet’s primarily aspect ratio is 2.20:1.
No problem..you just zoom the picture to fit your 2.35 screen. Then mask the picture that is overshooting.
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It's one of the first Warner Bros. films on Ultra HD Blu-ray to use the jump cut clip show menu.
Saw this in IMAX, then got my mum to go see it with me in the cinema again, she loved it and we proerdered the steelbook the moment we got home.
So hard to get immersed when I had to keep reaching for the remote to turn the sound up or down
Yea, that was super annoying.
TENET was an awesome imax experience. I have brought the 4k and will be watching this weekend. cannot wait. Loved it so much, i dont get why people were so down on it.
While the audio is muddled at times it never got in the way of either me or my missus understanding of the film. i kinda get why he did it (people in masks etc) but you can get that across well and still make it clear they are behind masks without obscuring speech.
My first viewing in IMAX when Neil first appears and says, “it seems you need an introduction to a prominent Mumbai local on short notice” might as well have been complete gibberish lol.
What I felt watching this movie:
Started watching 🙃
Midway 🧐
Ending 🤔
Watches CZcams Explanation 🤯
Realized what happened 🥺.......😭
I watched this movie tonight in Bluray quality with headphones and had no issue with hearing the dialogue but the score was definitely louder than most movies. I thought the movie was epic with all the twists and cinematic experience in inverse scenes. I may have to see if the DTS HD Master 5.1 is hard to hear the dialogue when using my 5.1 setup instead of headphones. I can't watch a movie late at night that's loud in the living room through speakers because I have a wife and daughter sleeping, who get up much earlier than me.
The solution to the dialogue issue may be to use headphones, not closed captioning. I also boost my center speaker sound already with my AV receiver to make dialogue more clear. My setup is only modest because high end is out of my price range.
Dialogue probably won’t bother me too much because I’m weird and put on subtitles. Really wanted to get this on 4K. Thanks for the review, now I can wait for some sort of sale instead of handing over the $30.
Thanks for not trashing the movie just because you didn't fully understand it the first time!
I love Nolan but its time he sorts out his sound mix. I saw Tenet in IMAX so it wasn't a big issue, but I've watched his previous films on 4K and I was constantly adjusting the volume, the effects were too loud and the dialogue was too low. I'll still get Tenet on 4K because of the IMAX/65mm sequences alone, as they look spectacular on a 4K UHD TV.
I didn’t enjoy this as much as I usually do Nolan’s films. Most of the others are life-integral-classics but there was something not quite right with this one. Something almost intangible missing. My first thoughts are that it was the casting. I didn’t quite attach to the characters the way I normally would in his previous movies. The other issue is that I’ve recently began to doubt what we’ve been told to believe in the last 30 years about black holes and time travel. I’m kind of buying into the talk that it’s all just mathmagical crap. I think he tries to be “cool” by avoiding using particular SFX but in doing so in this movie, it kind of cheesed-it-up for me. They walk into a black box and its door spins and they come out the other side converted to matter that travels backwards in time??? 😖 Hmmm. A step too far for me. I might have bought it more if they showed some sort of matter transition process or electromagnetic field altering them but Nolan thinks such things as trivial and unnecessary. It was an entertaining one-off-watch for me. Probably better released on Netflix as one of those obscurities you watch in a desperate moment of boredom.
My feelings exactly. It was just a poor storyline. Too much inaudible exposition, and I never got sucked into the movie.
Saw it in IMAX 1570 and the sound mix for the dialogue was almost incomprehensible. It was actually better when I saw it a few weeks later in 70mm in a normal theatre.
Last movie I saw in a theater? My exact thought was “WTF”...
Hm, didn't have any issues with the dialogue... but we do have a humble 3.1 audio setup with boosted dialogue tracks plus enabled subtitles by default. My least favorite part about watching movies in theatres is the lack of subtitles, and possibility that I might miss some dialogue. I read much better than I can hear
Like your reviews since I see movies with similar eyes. Only buy 4K if visual upgrade. Example- 4K Predator, my fav movie
Watching this film in IMAX was the best film experience I’ve ever had. Both in regards to the film itself and the technical aspects such as the visuals and the audio. Absolutely breathtaking.
@Karl with a K When and where did he say that?
Saw this movie in an empty theater. Probably in top 3 best movie experiences I’ve had.
I saw it in a theater in October and the audio issues weren't exaggerated! It probably didn't help that there's a ton of exposition.
Was awesome in 4k, visually and how it sounded
I was on the fence about buying this. No longer on the fence. I'll wait for a really good sale.
Great video. Anyone else get here by Googling 'Did they fix the sound on Tenat for DVD release'?
It didn’t make sense to me, it broke its own rules, but maybe I misunderstood the time mechanic.
Sadly I have no IMAX cinemas where I live, so I always love when I watch a Nolan film on Blu-ray or 4K Blu-ray for the first time. I can find out which scenes were filmed with IMAX cameras.
I saw it in a theatre. Heard about the dialog issues but didn't think it was that bad. The blaring loud soundtrack got a bit wearing though.
Exactly. I saw it twice in theater I had no issues understanding or hearing the dialog. Loved the movie!
Almost did not buy this because of the complaints over dialogue. Actually found 95% of it clear and easy to understand.
Watch with subtitles..
I saw it twice, once in a regular theatre and second in an IMAX 1570 format screening here in Melbourne. Huge improvement on dialogue audibility in the IMAX theatre compared to Hoyts in which the dialogue was so muffled it made me really not enjoy the movie. Redeemed itself on the IMAX screening however.
Been waiting for this video all year🙌🏽Thank you for this 🔥
Funnily enough, when I saw it in theaters it had subtitles. The SDH showing was the only one with seats left
I can boost the center channel or use subtitles if I have to, but it's a day one buy for me. Not too happy about the stacking discs, but I'll do what you did. Thanks, very helpful review!
It Drives Me Crazy that Discs keep getting stacked!! I usually always have my center bump up above everything else, so when I actually get this, I’ll be interested to see how it sounds. I honestly don’t think it’ll make a difference.
The disc were not stacked with the steelbook
Hey, man! Great review. I keep seeing people say this in the comments of my video but I honestly didn't have an issue with it. I mean, maybe it's just me? The sound was crazy loud for sure lol In my video I mentioned that I didn't even have the volume up more than half way and I had to lower it haha Still though, I didn't have a problem with the dialogue. I'm gonna have to go back and take a look at everything. Wish I had known about the issue first.
Glad to see I’m not the only one who had issues understanding what the heck people were saying. Not saying I didn’t enjoy it, but half of my issues understanding the plot were because I couldn’t hear the dang dialogue (even in the “quiet” parts). Nolan really needs to let other people do the sound mixing for him.
Still thought it was a great movie though!
Faced no issues with Dialogues. On Sony HT-A9. Crisp and Clear!
I can’t wait to get this blu ray this coming up Tuesday
Thank You for the thorough review Jeff. After hearing the report, I think that I might wait on this one awhile. Probably will wait until the price goes down.
Im probably using the subtitles, i dont mind, i like learning the dialog and i preordered the steel book from best buy
Great review. I saw this movie in the theater in xd and the audio was still difficult to make out especially in the beginning. There were Twitter comments on Noland Twitter from other directors mentioning about the audio mixing. When I get it I plan on using subtitles. I loved this movie and it is definitely a 2nd or third watch
The hardest time I had hearing people was when they in the water on that sail transport thing. That was understandable though because they were outside on the water wearing helmets with microphones. Other than that I heard fine mostly. Like 90% of the dialogue was intelligible for me. Maybe it's because I heard about all the audio issues going in so I listened more intently... 🤷🏾♂️
Loved the movie overall especially the IMAX sequences and score!
With the dark knight and interstellar he keeps switching between fullscreen Imax and black bars. But when it is with those black bars everything's so out of focus and unsharp. Nolan's really dropping a ball there.
Agree. I find it very distracting and feel like I'm switching from 4k back to 720p back and forth within seconds.
I don't understand how people praise the Dark Knight 4k release when the only great thing about it is the IMAX scenes.
I feel the same about MI:Fallout. IMAX scenes, amazing, otherwise everything is very soft looking.
just adjust your center channel its not complicated. Got the 4k today I herd all dialogue even through the action scenes and music.
I saw it in the theater, didn’t have any complaints about the audio mix and didn’t get all the fuss about it. Nolan’s style of storytelling frequently deals in incomplete information, and the approach to the dialogue is clearly part of that. The experience is a whole lot more enjoyable if you just roll with it rather than stressing over the fact that you can’t make out every word.
Good point.
However, I think the movie could have even more impact if we could properly understand the dialog. I’ve come to accept this from Nolan, but I still hope he addresses it in future films. 🤷♂️
DTS-HD MA 5.1 is always my favourite. No dialogue issue for me, everything is loud and clear. Bass is so damn freaking crazy....... my subwoofer forgives me for that.
I have an Onkyo Receiver with a Polk Audio Atmos 7.1 speaker setup. I hope I can make out the dialog.
I agree. I hate when they stack disc. I also wish Best Buy would have disc side by side, in their steelbooks, like the older bluray steelbooks. Not on top of one another.
I seen this movie about three times in imax just incredible
In their cinematic presentations in IMAX theaters, scenes shot in IMAX format from the movies The Dark Knight and The Dark Knight Rises were projected with an aspect ratio of 1.43:1. 1.90: 1 only for DVD/Blu ray!
Technically 1.78:1 on home media.
The only time I've ever been able to parse the dialogue in most of this film was when I watched it wearing headphones. That made all the difference in the world. I've got a 7.0 surround setup at home and it still sounded like the speakers were full of mud any time somebody spoke, whether there was any music in the scene or not. That's just inexcusable. I'm normally on the filmmaker's side in almost any dispute with the studio, but in this one instance I wish the studio had just overruled him and made him mix it so it was intelligible.
I watched Tenet 3 times in theaters and once at home there was times I would ask my friend what he say? Hence this is why I love subtitles lol
Nolan movies need a few viewings for sure! But what a better reason for physical media! Too bad about the audio though. Denzel is my favorite actor too, I wasn't actually aware his son was there but the moment he spoke I recognized it. Carrying the torch! Got to see this one at the theater, so glad I was now that we're in lockdown again. I've always got my center channel raised by a few db's (age and hearing lol)
I love the channel and I think you’ve been making great changes along the way but i wanted to say i honestly nearly click off with that intro everytime. Maybe something less obnoxious, idk i never was a huge fan of your old intro but this one is really bad. Not trying to be mean i really love the channel just trying to give feedback.
I think it would be helpful to viewers of your movie reviews, to change your movie release information from being vague with that, important, information, by saying, something like, “it will be released in a few days,” or it will be released next week,” to stating the actual release date, including, month, day, and year.
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Good feedback
A little worried about how this is going to sound on my 2 channel set up.
This is the first time I had to turn off my subwoofers watching a movie, and I have a fully tuned 7.2.4 Atmos theatre set-up. Great movie, though.
I watched it in cinemas and hated it. I couldn’t hear half of the exposition.
I will watch it again at home with subtitles.
I cant wait to play this movie at home. I love the introduction and the music was pumping me up. Also I enjoy my Polk mini 2.1 speaker system and I know there are better audio systems but I do enjoy them when the volume is high.
Honestly, your reviews are fantastic. I started with the UHD Hobbit and LofR and watched everyone since
I'm using a projector with a cinemascope shaped screen, and these movies with changing aspect ratio suck. If I'm setting the zoom to fill the screen on cinemascope, the "imax" scenes bleed above and below the screen. And if I'm setting it so that the full screen image fits between the top and bottom of the screen, then the scenes in 'scope appear small in the midle of the screen. It really ruined my experience watching Interstellar in my home theater.
Just do what movie theaters do and what most projection folks do.
@@BlownMacTruck and that is?
@@elcabri Anything with changing ratios makes you switch to constant width mode. If the higher aspect ratio appears too small on your screen you should upgrade your screen size.
I will say, i purchased the steelbook version and the movies are not stacked, stacked physical releases feel unbelievably 'cheap' to me. i dont want to feel something i purchased was not made with the customer in mind.
i will also say, i watched this with a samsung soundbar at home and the movie watching experience is still incredible. i also watched this movie in imax and had issues in some moments at the theater but as others have said the sheer visuals and music made this one of the best movie watching experiences of my life.
Honestly. It made more sense my second and third time, but it was still nice to see something big in the theater this year.
I'm staring to suspect Christopher Nolan may be hearing impaired.
I mean, that could be a possibility.
You are not suppose to understand every bit of dialog. You are suppose to think and wonder what is happening.
He clearly is copying Hitchcock.
@@bighands69 that's because the plot is nonsensical.
They’re not issues, the sound is designed this way on purpose
@@TheFlash-rh2el how is it not an issue?
Just bought the steel book edition of the movie today & the aspect ratio definitely threw me off. Normally I just won't watch it but because it's Nolan & I understand the reasoning behind his choice, It's all good ☺️
The 4K resolution is definitely beautiful & I had no problem with the audio. Mind you, I'm a audio freak & my sound has to be perfect for the viewing experience 👌
If anything, The aspect ratio changes just adds to the reasons I love Nolan. It's not for everyone, But this is exactly why I love his work ❤️
Weird 3 of us saw it at imax and the dialogue never crossed our minds..And we saw it at a real imax the biggest one in Florida..
Damn, I only have a sound bar. Maybe I need to hold off...
Watched on the Samsung HW-Q90R and the dialog was fine. Inaudible at times but that's where the subtitles help.
The scene with the cargo choppers near the end shook the whole apartment windows were rattling had to turn it down. This 5.1 mix is BETTER than a lot of some dolby atmos mixes I've heard.
Just watch it with subtitles
It's meant to be inaudible in places, you're not supposed to focus on all the dialogue. According to Nolan
Solid review man. Newcomer to your channel and really enjoying it thus far great work! I’ve been reading Highdefdigest for years for their reviews and it’s a good departure to see it. Just got my SVS PB 16 Ultra a few months ago and I am SOOO looking forward to watching this Tuesday night! Keep up the good work!
I just bought it with your link! Thanks for being you!
I thought you were joking at first, because your dialog is muffled. No joke. I could understand you wayyyy better than tenet. I watched the movie with closed caption on to understand it all. Klipsch, svs, and denon here... don’t know why it was made to sound this way.
My dad wants to see this movie.
Surprisingly, I watched the movie without captions and with my tv speakers. For me it worked (somehow) because my tv is in my room and I'm only 7-8 away from my tv and the sound is def bouncing off the walls. Don't get me wrong, I still have issues with the dialogue but in a closed bedroom environment, it somehow to my favor.
Also, I like watching this movie when I'm drinking and I have a buzz.
Has anyone noticed glitches/blocking in this movie? I just watched it on UHD, the scene in the lab, when the girl walks across the screen from left to right @14.41 there are blocks around her. I watched on the bluray disc too and its exactly the same. There's also some during the yacht race scene. FYI I'm playing on an xbox series x if that makes any difference. I've never noticed it before on any of my other movies.
Never mind, blocking was caused by a digital smooth motion setting on my tv, now turned off :>)
Man!!!!!
I am saving so much mula 💰 by buying second hand 1080p Blu rays and taking advantage of my 4k LG player and my LG OLED 55 CX’s buIlt in HDR programming function.
It looks incredible in 1080 in HDR rather than playing an extra £20/$20 dollars 💵 for a slight 4k CX improvement in clarity (SLIGHTLY)