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  • čas přidán 17. 06. 2013
  • Editing by: Roy
    Contact: kickboxingplanet@gmail.com
    Website: www.kickboxingplanet.com/
    More videos at: vimeo.com/user18401225
    I do not own any of this footage or audio, this is only for entertainment purposes.
    Highlight:
    Rob Kaman, Ramon Dekkers, Peter Aerts, Ernesto Hoost, Hesdy Gerges, Andy Souwer, Albert Kraus, Remy Bonjasky, Badr Hari, Gokhan Saki, Tyrone Spong, Sem Schilt, Errol Zimmerman, Robin van Roosmalen, Gago Drago, Alistair Overeem, Daniel Ghita, Nieky Holzken, Melvin Manhoef, Mohamed Khamal, Mosab Amrani and Murthel Groenhart.
    Content:
    - Intro
    - KO's
    Music:
    1st song: Future World Music - New Beginnings
    2nd song: Algerino - 2 hot 2 handle
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Komentáře • 816

  • @michailros4782
    @michailros4782 Před 9 lety +262

    We should not debate whether a Dutch champion is "really" Dutch or not. Lets just be proud that the Dutch school brings so many champions. Even real foreign fighters trained by Dutch. Lets be proud of the multicultural society we have. We still have some issues but trust me we are way ahead of most countries. Count your blessings please!

    • @joeythekickboxer6110
      @joeythekickboxer6110 Před 7 lety +10

      Michail Ros OSU!! :)

    • @MrCS-81
      @MrCS-81 Před 6 lety +4

      Super, beautiful text i have seen in years on youtube love and respect to you !

    • @abcdefg91111
      @abcdefg91111 Před 5 lety +5

      Mee eens. respect broeder

    • @ElChatar
      @ElChatar Před 5 lety +5

      I´m maroccan and I agree with you dutch Trainers, schools and fighters are nr 1

    • @FrogLickinChampion
      @FrogLickinChampion Před 5 lety +10

      The Netherlands belongs to the Dutch. Fuck that multiculturalism shit

  • @SmokeMyBlunt
    @SmokeMyBlunt Před 5 lety +53

    4:47 I still love this part where Badr shows respect to Peter Aerts. Especially knowing Badr isn't typically the guy to do something like that,but had massive respect for the old warrior.

    • @muratdiyar1551
      @muratdiyar1551 Před 3 lety

      K

    • @barrymantz6026
      @barrymantz6026 Před 2 lety

      @@muratdiyar1551 Badr did not fight for the Netherlands but Marocco! He was born and raised here. But never fought for our country! It might be his only respect moment. He had two fauls in his carreer and also hit someone outside the ring! He should be in jail and never enter a fight ever again!

    • @Edward-dl3rd
      @Edward-dl3rd Před 2 lety +3

      @@barrymantz6026 He did fight for netherlands, but he stopped representing holland after he was booed at home crowd by dutch people

    • @alexanderiii1638
      @alexanderiii1638 Před rokem

      @@barrymantz6026 Als je uit Amsterdam komt ben je amsterdammer geen nederlander... En ja als je dan financieel gesponsord wordt door Marokko, tja kies je lekker daarvoor toch. Ik zou zelf ook niet mezelf omschrijven als nederlander eerlijk gezegd. Beetje kleinburgerlijk dat t je zoveel boeit voor wie die uitkomt...

  • @bugiej
    @bugiej Před 10 lety +131

    I'm a fighter from Holland from Turkish origin. Im proud as hell to be a dutchman

    • @apefromthekitchen
      @apefromthekitchen Před 5 lety +10

      Mensen zoals jij kunnen complexe samenleving met verschillende culturen redden. Er is zo veel gezeik met migranten. Zo'n bericht als jij 4 jaar geleden zo maar opschreef geeft echt hoop.

    • @flowrepins6663
      @flowrepins6663 Před 4 lety +2

      thailand is just famous netherland has the best fighters in the world. those thailand guys suck at boxing netherland guys are good in everything

    • @luigi6659
      @luigi6659 Před 4 lety +2

      ​@@flowrepins6663 Not really. Both countries are "the best". If you say that thais suck at boxing, then you can also say dutchman suck at kicking, because you can clearly see that their kicks are not nearly as fast and strong as the thai's kicks.

    • @luigi6659
      @luigi6659 Před 4 lety +3

      @@flowrepins6663 Also, they know the clinch the best.

    • @Ropaccinno
      @Ropaccinno Před 4 lety

      @@alli1thebest che affermazione malata,

  • @yorukefe5525
    @yorukefe5525 Před 9 lety +119

    ım from turkey and ı love dutch people a lot,they are very honest,and brave heart..

    • @yorukefe5525
      @yorukefe5525 Před 9 lety +8

      ***** ı know my dear frıend..and thats why ı have respect and love to dutch..They have pretty good heart...and they dont get angry when there ıs no reason...bıg hug.

    • @alpayceylan9486
      @alpayceylan9486 Před 9 lety +6

      I am Dutch and live in Turkey

    • @alpayceylan9486
      @alpayceylan9486 Před 9 lety +3

      ***** hahah i wish i could i used to live in the netherlands but moved to turkey cuz of my parents
      I like the netherlands more doe

    • @arnomeesters1
      @arnomeesters1 Před 8 lety

      ***** the BEST

    • @TLOZ1986
      @TLOZ1986 Před 6 lety +3

      Şimdi desene bunu

  • @ccoccoc
    @ccoccoc Před 8 lety +46

    RIP Ramon Dekkers,:(

  • @H.K.5
    @H.K.5 Před 7 lety +12

    Dutch and Suriname people are the best kickboxers. Respect from England.

  • @sweetscience85
    @sweetscience85 Před 11 lety +6

    Finally, a tribute to Dutch Kickboxing ! Respect from Brazil !

  • @sjcobra84
    @sjcobra84 Před 5 lety +9

    Dear Netherlands. Thank you for making kickboxing awesome. Much love and respect from Australia. OSU

  • @Shakhnazar83
    @Shakhnazar83 Před 9 lety +49

    The Dutch school of kickboxing is the best in the world.

  • @LONPATNEW1234
    @LONPATNEW1234 Před 5 lety +4

    Peter Aerts's highkick & ernest hoost's low kick was ART.

  • @spacevisitorelhombrecohete5581

    0:55 that's Jan Plas man on the right he is the one who got kickboxing into Holland. A legend !

  • @ShadarSixx
    @ShadarSixx Před 9 lety +64

    why is there no footage of the legendary Ramon The Diamond Dekkers in this video?

    • @MrCasrc123
      @MrCasrc123 Před 9 lety +10

      ***** Ramon was muay thai, this is kickboxing so thats whyu i guess

    • @EsharKrk
      @EsharKrk Před 9 lety +10

      Lol, he was mentioned at the beggining so chill out.

    • @hassanbenaddi3662
      @hassanbenaddi3662 Před 9 lety

      Mis

    • @HansTabak
      @HansTabak Před 9 lety +2

      MrCasrc123 He also did kickboxing! 7 time world champion!!

    • @Roycoproductions
      @Roycoproductions  Před 9 lety +28

      ShadarSixx Two reasons... But the main reason is that I want to make videos that include only HD footage. The second reason is that Ramon is a Muay Thai legend, so I wanted to show something of him but not to much in this particular video because its called Duth Style Kickboxing which is still different than Muay Thai or Thaiboxing. I already made a Ramon Dekkers RIP highlight to honor him for everything he has done :)

  • @facundodigennaro7910
    @facundodigennaro7910 Před 10 lety +18

    LOVE SAKI'S COMBINATIONS!

  • @smyrna35berk
    @smyrna35berk Před 10 lety +118

    The Rebel GOKHAN SAKI... the best of the best

    • @thomasalvatesla2466
      @thomasalvatesla2466 Před 6 lety +8

      I love Gokhan but he ain’t the best. He has boxing skills and His style looks like Tyson’s style but Hari is the best of all time.1st fighter is Badr and 2nd fighter is Saki right now Saki fights in the UFC’s LHW division

    • @thegreatest1675
      @thegreatest1675 Před 6 lety +4

      Badr is not the best

    • @simbaqlf1344
      @simbaqlf1344 Před 6 lety +1

      the greatest he is

    • @thegreatest1675
      @thegreatest1675 Před 6 lety

      PNL Musik mate he sucks roght now

    • @thomasalvatesla2466
      @thomasalvatesla2466 Před 6 lety +1

      the greatest yes he ain’t the best right now but he was the best when he was in his prime

  • @jassertunisiano8808
    @jassertunisiano8808 Před 9 lety +12

    Im from tunisia i love the golden boy badr hari ♡♡♡♡♡

    • @waso778
      @waso778 Před 3 lety

      We hate that criminel in Holland

    • @tommiel6740
      @tommiel6740 Před 3 lety

      I don’t think you can speak for all of us though

  • @wimrutten966
    @wimrutten966 Před 8 lety +224

    Imagine you get into a stupid bar fight with these guys as a group and you together with your soccer team buddies.

    • @oliverhiston4223
      @oliverhiston4223 Před 8 lety +7

      😂😂😂

    • @ugurtas1968
      @ugurtas1968 Před 6 lety +11

      Wim Rutten you’re fucked

    • @royd7760
      @royd7760 Před 6 lety +31

      You can call your brother.. Bas Rutten.

    • @cubant2258
      @cubant2258 Před 6 lety +5

      Wim Rutten most of these guys probably play soccer that's like almost every country national sport aside from the US.

    • @balddonaldcerrone7930
      @balddonaldcerrone7930 Před 6 lety

      raul g that’s just not true

  • @mannymedrano308
    @mannymedrano308 Před 3 lety +7

    I trained like 3 months here in Texas under James McSweeney before Covid took over. The level of confidence this gives you is ridiculous. Just knowing how to kick a dude in a fight. 😎

  • @BBE22OOOWH
    @BBE22OOOWH Před 10 lety +1

    Youre vids always inspire me before workouts, but this one made me fill up with pride too! Proud of all those who represent our style of fighting. Always going forward and making combo's.

  • @Roy997elprezidente0
    @Roy997elprezidente0 Před 11 lety +2

    Respect from Poland!

  • @breakdancerQ
    @breakdancerQ Před 10 lety +26

    Dutch style is the best! Yes they all have different nationalities but all of them grew up in the Netherlands and they did all their training and growing in the kickboxing gyms of HOLLAND!!

  • @rimandries
    @rimandries Před 7 lety +12

    Extremely happy to see this hit 1 mil views soon. Well deserved if you aks me. That goes for both the editor and the fighters. Love the dutch style. Always have. Simple, devasting and effective. I salute all of you.

  • @shelr8204
    @shelr8204 Před 6 lety +1

    The dutch have always been my favourite..don't know the old guys but Remy and Peter Aerts I loved watching them fight with such precision. Pity South Africa only had Mike Bernardo but thats why i started watching

  • @velygritte2701
    @velygritte2701 Před 5 lety +17

    The Dutch school produces the most dominant fighters in the world (especially in the heavier divisions)

  • @fredvergraaf8953
    @fredvergraaf8953 Před 6 lety +2

    No other country has had so much good fighters that they had to come out for other countries to be able to fight at the K1, Dutch Kickboxing is the BEST.

  • @taxevader866
    @taxevader866 Před 2 lety +3

    Mejiro, Chakuriki and Golden Glory are the fighting trinity of Dutch Kickboxing.

    • @ronki23
      @ronki23 Před rokem

      Absolutely. I'm a bit bias against Thais but Tiger doesn't compare 😉

  • @serdarkar733
    @serdarkar733 Před 10 lety +16

    Saki ist the best for his high

  • @picvajzpikcers
    @picvajzpikcers Před 9 lety +13

    5:45 Rob Van Edsonk answering the sudden call on his mobile phone.

  • @koskorterskor
    @koskorterskor Před 10 lety +11

    3:21 starting the rebel saki's ballistic combo. rip

  • @TheCiortan
    @TheCiortan Před 11 lety +2

    One of my Fav " Daniel Ghita"

  • @brutal123
    @brutal123 Před 11 lety

    Just discovered your channel and your videos are amazing!

  • @Randomname968
    @Randomname968 Před 11 lety

    Iemand stopt veel tijd en moeite in deze filmpjes, helemaal geweldig.

  • @eric.bullee
    @eric.bullee Před 9 lety

    Aaahh, amazing the best heroes from my home country...incredible fighters because whatever the cost, they keep going...

  • @m.me.2961
    @m.me.2961 Před 3 lety

    I am so glad that I saw these all guys in his prime k1 was the best competition in my opinion what amazing fighters

  • @NeoShadow617
    @NeoShadow617 Před 11 lety

    Thanks for the videos!
    Your videos are the best of youtube

  • @torczcorp3572
    @torczcorp3572 Před 2 lety

    One of the best video EVER!

  • @haydarcansoylu8214
    @haydarcansoylu8214 Před 8 lety +23

    saki

  • @roxyrolla84
    @roxyrolla84 Před 10 lety +1

    excellent job, please dont stop

  • @TheSalaho1
    @TheSalaho1 Před 8 lety

    motivation at the highest level!

  • @TerencioRS
    @TerencioRS Před 10 lety

    Prachtig filmpje! Kan niet wachten op nieuwe gevechten!

  • @NibNumbly
    @NibNumbly Před 8 lety +8

    The Dutch have a great history in the world of kickboxing / Muay Thai. Ramon Dekkers, Ernesto Hoost were heroes to me back in the day. Lol, they still are.

  • @MmaMoroccan81
    @MmaMoroccan81 Před 4 lety +2

    I love style badr hari is expolive

  • @danieladaantje8172
    @danieladaantje8172 Před 10 lety +3

    Badr Hari ! The One !♥

  • @remcovanhengst6716
    @remcovanhengst6716 Před 9 lety +7

    Little country with a great legacy of creating great kickboxers and K1 fighter. Ofcourse, represented by many backgrounds who live here, but the type and style of training elevates those skills. No simple one kick one punch combo's. They basicly introduced the 3 or 4 lethal combo's. Dutch style should be part of everyone who is training kickboxing. Lead in your killer combo...make your opponent deal with your intro kick and get in there unleashing your power.

  • @iganpparamarta8813
    @iganpparamarta8813 Před 4 lety +1

    Even though I’m football fan but when I hear ‘netherland’ it’s kickboxing that occurs in my mind.

  • @c.a.1929
    @c.a.1929 Před 6 lety +3

    The best kickboksers come from the Netherlands (wether Born or not, all raised in Holland), here it comes: Semmy Schilt, Badr Hari, Peter Aerts, Ernesto Hoost, Rémy Bonjansky, Erol Zimmerman, Gokhan Saki, Alistair Overeem, Bas Rutten, Tyrone Spong, Ismael Lazar, Albert Kraus, Ramon Dekkers, Stefan Struve, Rico Verhoeven, Hesdy Gerges, Ismael Londt, Nieky Holzken, Jahfar Wilnis, Melvin Manhoef, Mohammed Jaraya, Tayfun Ozcan.

    • @rremyy1
      @rremyy1 Před 6 lety +1

      Je vergeet andysouwer powerrrrrr en nog veel meer.

  • @Calel_S
    @Calel_S Před 11 lety

    Overeem, Spong, Hari, and Saki are beast

  • @auturk
    @auturk Před 9 lety +1

    Brilliant!

  • @talipkarakoc
    @talipkarakoc Před 11 lety

    Nice video mate, keep up the good work!

  • @chevypeet
    @chevypeet Před 11 lety

    Again a monstervideo from Roy !! Great man , OSU !

  • @nathepps
    @nathepps Před 11 lety

    Damn, Royco does it again

  • @selcukgokalp2703
    @selcukgokalp2703 Před 10 lety +23

    Saki saki

  • @beedt714
    @beedt714 Před 7 lety +1

    The IQ of this guy shows 1:35-1:50. Perfect perfect. Even peeling the gloves omg

  • @Redcrown1979
    @Redcrown1979 Před 3 lety

    1.3M views. Congratulations Roy!

  • @Roycoproductions
    @Roycoproductions  Před 11 lety

    Thanks Peter;)

  • @emilmamedov2541
    @emilmamedov2541 Před 8 lety +5

    Badr Harri 👍👊💪

  • @slaterohm
    @slaterohm Před 11 lety

    yeah I try to introduce it to my friends in a way that shows it in a good light (im dutch), but it's hard with all the preconceptions. Even within fighting sports practitioners there are many with views that echo the media reports.
    im hopeful though, we're so connected to the rest of the world, as its opinion shifts so will ours one day.

  • @sweetscience85
    @sweetscience85 Před 11 lety

    Awesome !

  • @aussieh2k
    @aussieh2k Před 11 lety

    sick vid bro awsome work

  • @-Dioo-
    @-Dioo- Před 11 lety

    Thanks man! Looks like a real beast, i'll have a look at him right now lol :D

  • @outraclasse
    @outraclasse Před 5 lety

    GREATTT VIDDD TAHNKS!!! :)))))

  • @WayOFallah
    @WayOFallah Před 6 lety

    Ramon Dekkers, True Legend !

  • @lutherblissett7873
    @lutherblissett7873 Před 8 lety +16

    Hoost the biggest legend by far

    • @demolayakp
      @demolayakp Před 8 lety +2

      +Luther Blissett i think you missed Rob Kaman

    • @MRjesseNL
      @MRjesseNL Před 8 lety +1

      +Luther Blissett Ramon Dekkers

    • @fiekpiek531
      @fiekpiek531 Před 6 lety +4

      He lost twice from bob sapp . Pete aerts is bigger

    • @Jaydon05
      @Jaydon05 Před 4 lety

      @@demolayakp Yeah! Thank you! He was my big example while training.

    • @Jaydon05
      @Jaydon05 Před 4 lety

      Hoost is really a legend! And Rob Kaman!

  • @khalidahmadmirkhel7163

    Only a few of the fighters were native Dutch...But I do have to say that Dutch Fighting Clubs makes Champions..Hats off to the trainers and their dedication. They really make us Proud.

    • @internetbully100
      @internetbully100 Před 8 lety +3

      +Khalid Ahmad Mirkhel true but most of them are born and raised in holland just like me Im Moroccan but also dutch!!

  • @Roycoproductions
    @Roycoproductions  Před 11 lety

    Thanks bro;)

  • @Black-Circle
    @Black-Circle Před 11 lety

    loved it

  • @Helioben0
    @Helioben0 Před 11 lety

    Isso sim é kickboxing!

  • @Roycoproductions
    @Roycoproductions  Před 11 lety

    Thanks heb ff gekeken;)

  • @Silentship98
    @Silentship98 Před 11 lety

    wonderful

  • @piotrwolski6650
    @piotrwolski6650 Před 4 lety

    Melvin Manhoef, 173 cm, and what a beast he was explosive, fast, strong, knocked out much bigger guys, Gokhan Saki too, although Saki was 182, and Andy Hug, 180 cm, RIP Andy

  • @Yoda300YearsAgo
    @Yoda300YearsAgo Před 11 lety

    Bangelijke video, eindelijk één waar de muziek er knal op zit!
    Kan je zeggen welke songs er worden afgespeeld?
    "Daily motion" is nog een bekende maar of er copyright problemen zijn weet ik niet.

  • @khamzibchimagomedov7240
    @khamzibchimagomedov7240 Před 10 lety +6

    They should show more highlights about Badr Hari the real number 1 K1 fighter.

    • @joshuaesparza2984
      @joshuaesparza2984 Před 9 lety

      The same one Schilt beat? And Karaev and Hesdy Gerges lol Zabit Samedov as well? Haris far from the best K1 fighter he's top 10 not the best though

    • @vortexruns7759
      @vortexruns7759 Před 9 lety

      Joshua Esparza
      wtf are you talkin? badr lost from zabit because he comes from the jail and a month after a match against zabit, and against hesdy he was twice so better than hesdy and he kick him after the referree says stop, and kareav he just got owned because he was lying down on the ground en kareav was kicking him punches

    • @joshuaesparza2984
      @joshuaesparza2984 Před 9 lety +1

      What im talking about is the mans not the number 1 K-1 guy never was never will be. You have guys like Aerts, Cro Cop, Hunt, Lebanner, Sefo, Hug, Overeem, Spong who are all above him in lists of ability and skill

  • @sambonaire
    @sambonaire Před 10 lety

    yess

  • @Roycoproductions
    @Roycoproductions  Před 11 lety

    Thanks;)

  • @sasap1156
    @sasap1156 Před 3 lety

    Living Legends

  • @MegaTuningmania
    @MegaTuningmania Před 11 lety +1

    Hari is the king! He just need to get in shape

  • @semihcrak2311
    @semihcrak2311 Před 8 lety +2

    the rebel gokhan saki !!

  • @merijnvankeulen2973
    @merijnvankeulen2973 Před 8 lety +5

    Aerts, Hoost, Bonjaski, Hari
    nuff said

  • @user-ly5be8hz4s
    @user-ly5be8hz4s Před 11 lety

    please tell me what a track is playing with 2.20? thanks

  • @milliyetcigenc9086
    @milliyetcigenc9086 Před 11 lety

    Gokhaaaaannn Saakkiiiiii !!!!! King of kickboxingggg

  • @xhulioballa8606
    @xhulioballa8606 Před 2 lety

    Legends

  • @steptronic009
    @steptronic009 Před 10 lety

    Thanks !!! :D

  • @OscarFigueroaGycch
    @OscarFigueroaGycch Před 4 lety

    Awesome video

  • @soopadoopa808
    @soopadoopa808 Před 11 lety +1

    never knew ramon dekkers passed away RIP. great fighter

  • @BushidoBrown662
    @BushidoBrown662 Před 11 lety

    Bravo! Awesome video

  • @longebor85
    @longebor85 Před 10 lety

    5:44 I love the way he answers the phone

  • @djmartinez4717
    @djmartinez4717 Před 10 lety +4

    Tallest people in the world on average coupled with some of the most technical and powerful kickboxing on the planet......o.O

  • @junaidhussainnle
    @junaidhussainnle Před 10 lety

    what music is this ? in the back at the beganing

  • @Pyrogroup111
    @Pyrogroup111 Před 11 lety +1

    proud to be a dutch men!

  • @SuperAssassin7
    @SuperAssassin7 Před 10 lety

    do a Nieky Holtzken one id love that!

  • @alextop1850
    @alextop1850 Před rokem +1

    Dutch are awesome 👌 and really have amazing martial artists

  • @PotatoStickman200
    @PotatoStickman200 Před 8 lety +2

    Please do a video on Nieky Holzken! absolutely love his style

    • @PotatoStickman200
      @PotatoStickman200 Před 8 lety +3

      +Marco 2016 lol wtf how is he a pussy. Someone's an armchair warrior

  • @Roycoproductions
    @Roycoproductions  Před 10 lety

    Badr Hari, Gokhan Saki, Peter Aerts, Ernesto Hoost, Sem Schilt, Andy Souwer, Albert Kraus, Robin van Roosmalen, Hesdy Gerges are all born in The Netherlands... all the other guys lived from the age of 4 till now in The Netherlands;) It doesn't matter where you come from it's about the Dutch style of kickboxing. In the past few Dutch trainers traveled around the world to learn and combine their own style... all these trainers became successful and made several champions;)

  • @Roycoproductions
    @Roycoproductions  Před 11 lety +2

    True story;) He started fighting under the Dutch flag but because of the negative Dutch audience he switched to the Moroccan flag... The first fight against Stefan Leko in Amsterdam was the turnaround, he lost on a body kick and the crowd start boooing when he wanted to thank them by grabbing the mic;) (check CZcams for this fight). After his switch he got a letter from the Moroccan king and all the Moroccans treated him as a god so good choice I think:P

  • @-Dioo-
    @-Dioo- Před 11 lety

    Could you tell me who the really dark African guy is @3.44 to 3.50 please?

  • @simonpastoor
    @simonpastoor Před 11 lety

    wie is de linkse (aziatische) kerel bij 06:01

  • @babganz
    @babganz Před 11 lety

    Awesome !! I enjoy your videos .. :)

  • @baselders6699
    @baselders6699 Před 7 lety

    god i mis these hard fightes were people went KO and those punches

  • @Ckultuur777
    @Ckultuur777 Před 9 lety +3

    Ramon The Legend Dekkers RIP

  • @aquiles8246
    @aquiles8246 Před 23 dny

    The current most predominant and stronger strike art!

  • @Redcrown1979
    @Redcrown1979 Před 8 lety +6

    I consider this your best video Roy!! Love it.

    • @Roycoproductions
      @Roycoproductions  Před 8 lety +1

      +Rutger Belksma Haha thanks Rutger!

    • @stormrevenant
      @stormrevenant Před 8 lety

      He was born in Amsterdam. That makes him Dutch. Morrocan heritage but nationality wise, he's Dutch. And he represents Dutch kickboxing.

    • @ClashwithGodblin
      @ClashwithGodblin Před 8 lety

      Trained by/in the NL too