How It All Went WRONG At Derby County! | Explained
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- čas přidán 3. 02. 2022
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Less than three years ago, Derby County were 90 minutes away from reaching the Premier League, ultimately losing a hard-fought contest with Aston Villa in the Championship play-off final after beating Marcelo Bielsa’s Leeds in the semis. But while both of those clubs are now in the English top flight, Derby are not only languishing in the relegation zone of the second tier after being docked 21 points for entering administration and breaching the English Football League’s profitability and sustainability rules, but face expulsion from the Football League and the prospect of folding altogether, which would bring an end to the club’s 138-year history.
The Rams have been looking for new owners since 2019, following years of financial mismanagement under Mel Morris. But after multiple failed takeovers, their efforts have now been hampered by legal challenges from Middlesbrough and Wycombe Wanderers, who claim the club held an unfair advantage over them due to their rule breaches, something which could cost Derby up to £40million. Any new owner would have to write off debts of around £60million on top of this, so taking over at Pride Park is less than ideal for prospective buyers. Meanwhile, supporters were recently issued a warning following allegations of “abuse and personal attacks” directed at the club’s administrators.
But how did Derby get into such big trouble? Who is to blame? And what will happen next? With the future of one of England’s most historic clubs in the balance, let’s take a look.
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Rooney's loyalty and determination to Derby to help get them back on track is admirable. At times he's paid for the team's transportation and accommodation for away games out of his own pocket! My 🐐!
Love that and his determination not a massive rooney Fan tbh but really admire his quality here its rare to find loyalty of anykind today least of all in football G O A T
If thats true fair play to the lad.
Man has more loyalty to the club then his wife lamo
@@kyle_epic acting like his wife has never banged someone spoiler they are both not faithful I think at this stage they just have an open marriage
@@kurtpunchesthings2411 : Kurt: I was anticipating a reply to Kyle's comment, ripe for the banter of distortion by the wizened mind and spirit.
As a Derby fan I thought this video summarised the issues very well. I kept thinking ‘oh but you forgot to mention this’ and then you’d mention it. Great to see someone who has actually put in the research before chatting rubbish like they do on Sky
Rooney has done well, considering he lost 21 points instantly. It could be a lot worse, at time of writing, they are second last.
I'm a Derby fan, Rooney is literally doing miracles at present
Use another comma why don’t you
@@henben6212 ,
Cheers Geoff
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THe thing with the Amortisation is that the EFL signed off on it for three years then changed their mind - I'm convinced this is why the fine was so small after the appeal, because what Derby did wasn't illegal it was just not what the EFL expected. The EFL then changed their FFP rules to match.
As a Wycombe fan, it’s a pretty tough situation to be in. Derby cheated, and ultimately deserve to be punished. However the punishment must be directed towards Mel Morris and not Derby as an institution. The EFL have to also shoulder a massive portion of the blame, they’ve been terrible representatives of the football league for years.
Is a 21 points deduction not enough punishment
Punishing owner directly is bad for business, no millionaire gonna buy football club for ego boost if they might get trouble from it . And pretty sure this Mel Morris got friends in high places, he scammed the whole league and walked away free.
Exactly my thoughts but how does a club like Barca whose over 1 billion in debt not get points deductions or how are they even able to afford to sign players i understand they took out a 500 million euros loan 💵 but still makes zero sense football is so corrupt it’s ridiculous the football league should be there to protect clubs.
I think Wycombes beef is with the EFL. If the EFL had not procrastinated and given Derby the points deduction last season everything would be better. Derby wouldn't then have a 21 point deduction. They may have had a 9 point deduction to go into administration.
Mate you got promoted when you were 10th in league didn’t even really deserve to be in the league
I'm a Leeds fan but Derby deserve to stay up. Their a good old club with history and they should not be relegated or liquidated because of the incompetence of one man. The EFL should be able to force an owner to sell if they are unable to run a club
sell to who? who would buy that mess, also the whole point of relegation and promotion is for all teams to get a chance not just the ones who were good a hundred years ago, their history should not be a factor at all
Give over you soft get! Throw the book at em 😂😂😂
@@fredsoh4027 EFL caused a lot of this drama to be escalated due to their incompetance. Had they pursued the claims of Boro earlier and not left it on Derby themselves, then this matter would have been resolved a couple of years ago.
@@BettySwollocks13 Considering Leeds were in a similar situation and honestly were worse off than Derby currently are, and since you probably saw this first hand compared to me who only supported and watched from the U.S., you should show a little respect and put rivalries aside
But if you only hold future owners accountable in future then it gives clubs free reign to continue breaking all rules that gives them the privelege of competing in their league knowing that fir all the rules they break they can change owner and start again . Hardly a deterant to all the Derby fans who say no club should have to endure the mess we have . I guess football club is the same as any ltd company business on law and that's why they go after the name too not the owner .
No club should ever be allowed to sell their stadium ownership either like even my local Oxford utd club has done who rents at extortion rates yearly in last 15 years which could of seen us bought our 3 sided concrete wind tunnel stadium off the landlord already . I feel sorry for the fans but if they don't start somewhere enforcing their own rules to avoid future club problems then it will always happen .
It's criminal how QPR got away with the rule breaches. £42 million fine is negligible with what they made in that one season in the PL. EFL is a joke.
Excellent presentation sir.
I never really liked rooney as a player , always respected the fact he was a great player but I genuinely really like him as a manager and im happy he’s doing an amazing job at a troubled derby
Very interesting video!
As a Luton fan i feel for Derby fans as we went through this a decade ago, numerous points deductions for dodgy owners over a number of seasons leading to a 30 point deduction and relegation to conference. If they can stop the club folding their is a light at end to a well run club it may just take a few bad years to get there
congrats on promotion to prem
Was at that playoff final...Little did we know how much was weighing on it
Meanwhile Bielsa is watching all this mess at Derby unfurl through his binoculars with a big smirk on his face 🕵️♂️🕵️♂️🕵️♂️
Speaking as a Boro fan I'd prefer Gibson to withdraw his claim against Derby, their fans have been punished enough. I'd prefer Gibson to go after Mel Morris, who as far as I'm concerned is a crook and a cheat.
Could you do a video on norwich? And how they manage to be as high as they are with Delia as owner
Responsibility for the mess Derby are in is ultimately down to Morris but the way the EFL have handled things and continued to pursue Derby leaves a lot to be desired. They initially signed off on Derby’s amortisation policy which allowed Derby to continue doing it. Their handling of the boro and Wycombe claims have been troubling to Derby fans. The EFL gave Derby an extension to the middle of August to publish their books with a linear amortisation policy, which is after the season had already begun. Naturally Derby waited until the season had already started before releasing this information as any company would do in this situation. The EFL gave Wycombe false hope by releasing a joint fixture list before the start of the season and their claim should be against the EFL for giving Derby the extension to publish the accounts. Boro have tried suing the EFL because of their failure to come down hard enough on Derby and enforce their own rules. The case has been dropped and straight after the EFL started pursuing Derby again to cover their own backs. Derby/Morris have not been perfect during this whole thing but it looks as though wealthy men in suits bickering will cause a club to die. Morris has just come out and said he will take on the claims from boro and Wycombe himself if it allows Derby to get a buyer in place, so hopefully their is light at the end of the tunnel.
Could you do a video like this around Sheffield Wednesday??
Biggest problem owners betting the farm for Premier League riches, failing jumping ship scot-free whilst the club, city and fans having to pick up the piece and receive ALL the punishments.
I disagree with the abandoned by football family part, im a derby fan born and bred, the support I've seen from other clubs has been inspiring, our arch rivals forrest have even given is support.
The efl and Morris can do one .
But I don't feel we've been abandoned by football family, it's just what do you really expect them to do? Pay it for us lol no
To see such a legendary institution like Derby County FC in such dire straits because of the financial ineptitude of one man, and an organization's unwillingness to punish the man/men responsible is just sad.
The punishments need to be handed down to Mel Morris and the EFL.
This is what I'd do:
Administratively relegate Derby to League One, but no further. Reinstate Wycombe to the Championship. Ensure Mel Morris NEVER owns another football club to ensure it doesn't happen with another club. And rework the EFL's FPP test, to mandate any and all financial documents to weed out candidates that have had prior financial issues to avoid another Bury FC situation.
At the start, before the court cases, I would've backed this approach, but no doing this is completely and utterly ludicrous, and here is why;
So far we have played our way from the hole we dug ourselves to what could be described as being back in the fight for safety, 21 points taken off and still we stay up would be insane and that is what we are to achieve if we carry on as we have been so far, so to relegate us into League 1, with either 0 points tally or the points tally we have now, would be idiotic, for 2 reasons.
1. Derby have already served their penalty, that was the 21 points deducted, that was the embargo which we had for the window just gone, whereby Rooney was being told by text that a derby player had reluctantly been told to leave the club for funds and then that Rooney couldn't bring any new faces in to what had been a small squad, an even smaller squad now. So by that sense we have had more than our penalty deserved, as well as then a fine or 2 before we showed the books for the 15/16-18/19 seasons.
And 2. that would be completely unfair on anyone else in league 1, especially the clubs who are ahead of Wycombe, for them to be swapped with Derby, especially if they either both started on 0 points as then Wycombe would probably be relegated back to League 1 without a seconds notice as i doubt they'll be able to recoup the points gap to Reading or Cardiff and then also unfair to Derby with the same reasons in League 1, and then you also cant have it where you do that with the same points tally as that would put us 4 points adrift from current 24th, making Rooney's progress so far invalid, and then have a bigger gap to change to get to safety, while putting Wycombe 4th in the Championship and vying for premier league whilst playing easier teams to get those points, making no only the whole of the championship angry as they've then been gifted the chance of promotion after relegation the season prior but also anyone in League 1, especially seeing as they're sitting 5th in league 1 with other teams who have been better than them above of them cheated by them, a bit like they might've felt when again Wycombe got promoted to the championship to begin with because they had 2 covid cases and a few injuries, leading them to miss out on a game in the 19/20 season and then be pushed into playoffs from being in 8th due to Points Per Game being good from missing a game to the rest of the league, so really some can argue they should never have made it to the playoffs anyway.
And yet in all of this I still haven't spoken a sentence about the Middlesborough claims which is the main reason behind it all with them wanting £45M on top of the £6M Wycombe want, costing any new prospectus owners £51M on top of the £60M+ needed for creditors and Administration fees, meaning the whole debacle would be for nothing with the Boro claims being the big hitters.
And all this over, what was essentially a FANTASY SEASON! Neither Boro nor Wycombe have a valid claim for 'their' money as then otherwise any team who didnt get promoted could start filing similar lawsuits against any club who did get promoted as 9/10 times the club who got promoted is either in one of their 3 years of parachute payments or has massively overspent their budget and then have escaped that by reaching the big time, meaning then the EFL cannot touch you as you would not be under their regime, which is why it wasn't until 2016 when QPR got their fine for breaking FFP when, surprise surprise, we were the opposition to their FFP breaking team into the prem.
Essentially the whole scheme of it all is a bit fraudulent, and this hasn't been me trying to cover Derby's tracks, as Mel and his financial ways did cheat us out, but as well as that the whole issue boils down to the EFL and how they're run as they dont have a way of flagging financial problems up before they cause this, meaning it happens where big spenders can get away into the prem and never have to face the punishment or they get caught up on like us from overspending to get away with most of the time with the relegated Premier League clubs being promoted back up there a season later or slumping down 2-3 divisions like Blackpool or Sunderland and also then having clubs like Derby and Sheff Wed who are beaten in the playoffs to another team spending stupidly more than them or from them being a former EPL team.
@@Chrisbob11 Yeah. I agree. Truthfully, my point is there needs to be some form of punishment handed out to Mel Morris for, effectively, destroying Derby County, and the EFL for allowing it to happen on their watch.
I would make Mel pay the fees that Wycombe and Boro are wanting from DCFC, and then the EFL needs to be taken over by people that actually care about the clubs in their divisions instead of just how much money they can make in a given fiscal year.
I think the Prem should have been forced to trickle down some money to the EFL, to help support the money-starved clubs that are/were on the precipice, such as Bolton and Bury just a few years back, clubs like Leyton Orient during their relegation to the National League, Blackpool during their imitation of Icarus from the Prem to the bottom half of League 2, Portsmouth during their descent down the divisions. It isn't like the money isn't in England, it's just being kept in the Prem.
Parachute payments are ridiculous. And are ruining/inciting these promoted by any means stories.
We need a hard maximum wage on championship clubs. Do away with parachute payments to reduce the incentives to spend
Needs to be a Hard maximum for ALL football players, the money they don't spend on more wages could go to many other things, like womens football, football academies, community, charity etc. There should be a MAX for a player to be bought and a MAX wage that a player can be paid.
Not saying they all get paid the same, but they should definitely not have a limitless amount pulled from thin air like Grealish at £100m.
Wayne has done a good job especially under the exacting circumstances and by creating a siege mentality among the playing squad (and supporters).
Wayne should continue to learn his trade for a couple of seasons at least before eventually managing his hometown club, Liverpool with someone like Moyes.
What a geezer Rooney is he stay on the ship though the water is all around him.RESPECT
I never wanted any club more to win relegation battle than derby now
Frank lampard did an outstanding job at derby,
It's unbelievable how people said that frank lampard isn't good for everton.
Yeah, but when you compare both the Championship and Premier League there is a huge difference in difficulty - some teams go up and straight back down simply because they either can't compete with the other teams, or that they don't have the financial stability to buy any players for a top-flight campaign.
Though, we have seen some great additions to the Premier League in recent years, such as Aston Villa.
Lampard done well with Derby due to the easier, somewhat less competitive nature of the Chamoionship, if he does well with Everton then I accept that I am wrong, but when I see his tenure with Chelsea it really does make me doubt his next spell in the English Premier League.
@@Robyn-- Don't let the media fool you. Lampard did an outstanding job at Chelsea as well. When he took over, chelsea was toxic under Sarri, transfer ban and losing hazard ( contributed 50% of the goals under Sarri - equivalent to Liverpool losing Salah), not only did he bleed the youth in but managed top 4 and an FA Cup final in a season written off by most. Ultimately he fell victim to big money signings but I would argue none of the new attackers have still found their feet. Both Werner and Havertz still are sub par and Ziyech looked better under Lampard. Tuchel adapted and manipulated the system to get the best out of others (defense) while Lampard failed to do so solely trying to fix the attack.
Does any of this mean he will be success at Everton? No.
But his chelsea tenure was alot better than people make it out to be.
@@Robyn--in 2019, every managers was running away to take Chelsea's job,
But lampard stepped up, tell me what's happening to derby right now?.
It's wasn't his fault when Kai havertz and Werner couldn't adapt to the premier league.
Yes outstanding, took them from 6th all the way to 6th, with players like tomori, mount and Wilson on loan.
@@jhaych derby played the playoff, he almost promote Derby.
Too much money taken by just a few clubs. Many clubs have no chance in the EPL and are most clubs are likely to lose more games than they win.
So when is the FA going to institute cost certainty/salary caps like the rest of the major leagues? Does Man U need to fold before changes are made?
Selling the stadium to a separate company in the owner's name. Crafty!
New rule:
Maximum of 2 managers per season.
Good luck Watford 👍🏻 🤣🤣
FFP is a joke. If rich owners funnel money to their premiership teams through sponsorship via one of their other companies or subsidiaries which is apparently ok, it just seems you can get away with it if you’re in the premier league (probably because the prem is worth too much to English football).
@5:00 where’s his trusty brolly?
Blame the owners
If the Football League wants to improve the Financial State of Championship Clubs, they would better off focusing more on the Debt Levels of Clubs rather than the Financial Losses they make.
Because at the end of the day, it's not the losses Football Clubs make that's the issue, it's how such losses are being covered.
Likewise; this crisis also shows why the Championship should be transferred from the Football League to the Premier League (& become the Premier League 2), which would increase the amount of TV Revenue that each 2nd Tier Club makes.
Wouldn’t the same issue happen in league one then?
@@mattczech1473 For the record; I also believe that the Government should be providing additional financial support for clubs in League One & League Two and the National League (which should become part of the Football League and bs renamed League Three).
I would suggest that said additional financial support should be funded by a tax on Broadband Subscriptions.
Very good
Nice that I have to listen to this as a derby fan 😭
Players wages a big problem needs to be amended across the board in all leagues premier and championship wages n a fixed salary with bonus incentives for cups ,position , goals scored etc and non of this managers cut and blah blah blah has ruined the game and made it divisive needs bringing into line so clubs can compete again.
All footballers and managers are paid far to much,wages should be capped,and with all other expenses should not exceed more than 90% of club revenue.
I hear if you buy this club you don't even get the stadium . How is going to pay without the stadium as part of the deal ? This also sounds like a reason not to have promotion/ regulation. All these lower clubs are dying trying to get in the premier league .
It's not Wayne Rooney's fault, blame Derby County's Financial problems.
It’s great to see 😉
Richard Keogh started the downfall in the 2014 play-off final against QPR. When he gave the ball to Bobby Zamora to score the winning goal. Ha! Ha! Ha!
And QPR ended up overspending like this video said; but they have owners that actually had the money to pay it off. That’s the difference. Minus that stadium, they’re a bigger club than Derby.
It went wrong because we had a shite owner who didn't give a crap about the club and would have been happy to see it liquidated.
Wages in football are off in cloud cuckoo land so it's no wonder financial problems arise in virtually all clubs.. Sort that and things would calm down, though it's a gravy train for players and the entourage of hangers on so little will change , more and more clubs will fold.
Snouts in the trough.
Bolton was lucky to survive. Bury is alive on paper only. Look at Oldham. Premier League founder member to National League.
Wages are obscene
great game
They pushed too hard to get promoted under Lampard. When he failed so cruelly in the play offs they lost out on the money that would have paid off the gamble
Ye villa did the same aswell. We both put too much money in promotion one season whoever wins would go up whoever lost would be in a similar postition
I’ve seen so many Derby fans on twitter blaming QPR for the position they are in your owner dug ye into this not us and I hope ye find a solution
The thumbnail is a bit click baity. People who doesn't know will think that lampard helped deby abd rooney took them to this turmoil.
I'm a Manchester City fan but even I must admit it's disgusting how smaller/poorer clubs are treated and often punished for their bad owners. The owners are the problem, stop punishing the players, fans, managers and staff! I hope Derby make a comeback and can get to the premier league one day, they deserve it after how they've been treated.
it will be cheaper entry fee into the grounds next season so look on the bright side LUFC
They will get a chance to build back up. Unfortunately, it will be from league one.
Come on you rams!
If Rooney keeps derby up he should get manager of the season
If he does he'll be in running for Fifa/Uefa Moty
Steve Cooper got that in the bag you sausage
The amount players get paid now a days is stupid, players don't care if they win the game or lose either way the get paid the same it's ridiculous,
Rooney is doing an incredible job there
Lampard made Derby great
Derby is doing a berry lol
In all fairness what comes around for other clubs goes back around for others aka what happened to the likes of Bury fc and leeds has happened to Derby however Leeds managed to escape death Bury weren't that lucky Derby I can't see escaping this
Rooney has not done well should of been sack months ago got someone else like forest did how can have done well we are on first division and now been given freedom of the city it pays to be poor manager
Forest has money. Derby is literally bankrupt.
Nottingam forest are way better
So another small/middle club get sucked by FFP regulations again? Fcking nonsense regulations. How could they compete when lot of good player are get offered higher wage by another bigger club, and the owner could'nt even inject fund to help the club. Fcking joke isn't?
Got to say tho this year I’ve had more excitement thus year than in many years before plus we could sue QPR as they breached ffp beating us in 2013 and that shows how stupid middelsboroughs claim is and plus they would e had to beat leed and villa and in that same year they lost 3-0 3-0 4-1 and 1-1 to villa and Leeds baffling
Football daily you need more than 10 minutes to cover what is happening at my club, if you would like a Derby fans opinion on everything that has happened, please feel free to ask
Behave
Yessir
So early
nothing to spy on now.....lol......LEEDS UNITED do not wish you well.........hahahahahahHa see not nice is it!!!!!!!!!!!
I still like Rooney .....
Rooney pls come a takeover that train wreck ragnick👌👌
You mention Bury FC in your video and I'm a lifelong fan, or I was until it was ripped away from me. I'm sorry but I've got no sympathy whatsoever for the plight of Derby given their major role in our expulsion. Morris voted for our expulsion even as he was hatching plans for his own "schemes" at Derby. Granted the present owner of Bury FC, in administration, is a character who should never have been allowed anywhere near a Football Club, but to expel a club with 130odd years of history in order to get back at this individual, who was stringing the EFL along when asked to provide proof of funding, is just throwing the baby out with the bathwater. The fans and community, who had no control whatsoever over club ownership, had their club deleted by the EFL, the very same people who allowed this individual to take over in the first place, my blood still boils at the memory of it. Then to add insult to injury we had some Derby fans, (and other clubs it has to be said), on our Message Board saying we deserved everything we got, that we had "cheated our way to promotion" etc etc. Well Derby fans, karma comes back to bite you on the bum.
They have nobody but themselves to blame. QPR were lucky because they have rich owners. Their problem was spending more than Dortmund and going straight back down after.
The fact lampard has got no stick in the media is disgusting. Spent 25m easily then just went, reason they are like they are now. Morris had to make the sacrifices
Club spend 15 mil euro and sold The 2 best players for about 15 mil euro. Check your facts.
What was he supposed to do? Just turn down the job at the club he loves and calls home to stay with Derby in the championship? He might never get that chance again. And its not comparable to Rooney and Everton. They're a mess right now and Moshiri is clueless. Not anywhere near as lucrative as the gig at one of Europe's super clubs like Chelsea. Lampard would have been insane to turn down the job at Stamford Bridge to stay at Derby. He almost got them promoted in his first season in management and owes them nothing.
My club 🐏🐏
Where did you get the information from that Middlesbrough want £40m thats has not been documented as fact anywhere. Also the court case is not just about Derby cooking the books from Middlesbrough's point of view, Derby bought a player with fraudulant money that Middlesbrough where in for, that player went on to score 9 goals for them before the end of the season, so its this direct impact Middlesbrough are claiming for, not the fact they broke FFP they have already been punished for that...This case has also been going on for 12 months, well before Derby went into administration, Derby not dealing with that case early is the reason they are in this position, so people like GN asking Middlesbrough to step aside are speaking nonsense.......they also owe the tax man a huge amount of money...not sure why any blame is been pointed towards Middlesbrough in this case at all, if you think the claim has legs or not they still have to deal with it and they have had 12 months to do so.....Dont want to see them go bust but this is 100% on them in every way possible.
Again with the Lampard agenda,…
There dead
That’s what happens when you hire the local pieman instead of a manager
Rooney is a joke
One man's joke, is another man's hero
Derby aren't doing to badly maybe badly financially but Derby have been doing bits
Spygate: Derby Protest but Leeds Not Punished= Leeds Win
Playoff:Derby Win against Leeds= Derby Win,Revenge complete
A Year Later:Leeds Promoted and defeat Derby to ensure winning the Championship=Leeds Win,Revenge fullfiled
Now:Leeds Still in PL(At the time this posted) while Derby in Championship,having a lot Deduction and facing relegation to League One
So the score was 4-1 for Leeds United Victory
What a Story between this Rivarly👍
This has nothing to do with Leeds 🥴
I can only forsee this as being heartbreaking, hang in there derby fans, better days are ahead
In retrospect Derby condemning Leeds for 'Spygate' was acutely hypocritical. Its easy to feel a touch of schadenfreude until you realise its the fans who ultimately will suffer most.
I see people blaming the EFL for this mess and it's a bit annoying. Yes you could argue the EFL need to restructure certain things to prevent these things but had the EFL taken a harsher stance earlier, I can almost guarantee that Derby fans would be complaining and accusing the EFL of trying to stop their promotion push. I also don't like the fact people are asking for Derby to be saved just because they are a "historical club". Why should that play a part?
But the EFL are to blame. They accepted Derby's amortisation financing technique and allowed them to do it. It was only after Gibson attempted to sue the EFL that they decided to change their rules to clamp down on teams 'cheating'.
The other question is why isn't Steve Gibson interested in suing Bournemouth for the 2014/15 season? They lost twice to Bournemouth who won the league 5 points above Middlesborough and then Middlesborough lost the playoffs. Bournemouth then got fined for breaching FFP. Strange that MFC haven't gone after Bournemouth but have pursued Derby for 2 seasons instead. Personal vendetta, I think so.
@@nikthompson4718 I completely agree that the EFL have to shoulder huge blame for this. They need to change the way the handle club spending. I'm just saying that I dont feel much sympathy for the fans or employees and I think Borough and wanderers have every right to atleast attempt to sue Derby although there probably is some bias. If Derby loose the case, then they should be dissolved. Simple.
@@QuotedPixels Glad you got that off your chest. Should Man City or Paris St Germain also be dissolved for when they breached FFP rules? That's not how all this works - the only way Derby will be 'dissolved' is if a buyer for the club cannot be found as there aren't enough assets to pay the debts. In any case, why should the fans and the players be punished? It's not like they fiddled the books! The fact that you don't have any sympathy for the fans or the staff probably says more about you than anything else. The amazing struggle for survival this season should tug on the heartstrings of any true football fan. What Rooney and the players are managing this season despite the headwinds of a 21 point deduction and extremely severe transfer embargo is awe inspiring. If they manage to get out of the relegation zone, it will be more monumental than Leicester winning the PL.
@@Aurion254 The reason I said Derby would get dissolved is because its highly likely that they wouldn't be able to find the cash to pay if the ruling went against them. The ongoing legal case also makes its unlikely that a buyer would want to take over Derby. Man city and PSG wouldn't be dissolved because they would be able to pay the fine regarding FFP breaches. On your point about fans or staff. I completely agree that neither fans or staff fiddled the books. However my point is the fact the potential FFP breaches have been well documented and known for a while. It was known when Derby reached the play off finals. I didn't hear fans or staff complaining then. If Derby had gone up, the fans or the staff wouldn't care that they'd effectively cheated other teams to promotion. But it's because its all gone wrong that we are now talking about it. You said my lack of sympathy says more about me than anything else. Your right. It shows I'm ready to think with my head not my heart. Your use of the word heartstrings illustrates this perfectly. Its because we've been thinking with our hearts and not our heads that we have sleep walked into this horrible position. I don't know who you think you are to judge who is or isn't a true football fan. Its because of our hearts over mind attitude that clubs keep getting into this mess as owners and leagues know that fans won't allow clubs to die so they aren't risking anything. If Derby were to disappear it might serve as a much needed warning to the rest of the football world. I completely agree with your final statement regarding Rooney and the miracles he's performing. It would be something out of a fairly tale if they stayed up. I want Derby to survive. I just want them to survive for the right reasons and not just because the football world felt pity upon them
@@QuotedPixels Apologies, your oc made it sound like you thought the club should be dissolved as a punishment by the EFL, when they've already hit the club with a number of penalties. Still, it's a hard lesson for any lifelong Derby fans for the actions of the few. I agree not enough of us were outspoken enough when we were flagrantly violating the FFP rules but there are plenty of us who felt a lot of shame for the club under Mel Morris. Not just the financials but the differing ways they treated Keogh, Bennett and Lawrence in the wake of the drink-driving incident. They all should have been punished equally if you ask me, nevermind that the two younger players were more valuable to the future of the club. Morris has a lot to answer for the reputation of the club for many reasons.
I’ve never had so little sympathy for a club or fan base as I do DCFC
HITC did this video months ago, theirs is much better
Rotherham and Sheff Wed should also be suing Derby and the EFL too in the latter case for biased and unlawful application of EFL rules! There's also a case that ALL EFL clubs could sue both Derby and the EFL too for breaking the rules and inconsistent application of the rules! I feel for fans of the likes of Wigan, Bolton, Birmingham, Bury, Macclesfield, Stevenage, Southend and Sheff Wed in particular! To name but a few!
What a load of rubbish, Derby should sue QPR, Bournemouth and forest then, anyway after tonight's news we will see if Steve Gibson wants to really go to court as he knows he will lose the case!
4 points and a new owner and this video is pointless
No sympathy for them. They cheated punishment once and hurt other teams in the process and spending way too much money they didn’t have to get Rooney. Wycombe should have stayed up and they should have gotten the same punishment as Wednesday. Glad Bolton got saved and feel for Bury, but zero sympathy here.
Darby are soooo bad