What On Earth Is Going On At Oldham Athletic?
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- čas přidán 5. 02. 2022
- Thirty years ago, Oldham Athletic were founding members of the Premier League, and they pulled off one of the league's all time great escapes in the division's inaugural season in order to avoid relegation.
Now, Oldham are the lowest ranked team in the entire Football League / EFL, threatened with losing their league status for the first time in 115 years, and perhaps even their very existence.
In this documentary, HITC Sevens takes a look at Oldham's decline, the ownership of Abdallah Lemsagam, and why the Latics must be among the worst run teams in world football. - Sport
When people moan about their clubs, just remember, that Oldham have not had any promotions since the early 90's. The fans who are too young to have seen that last promotion, will have only seen two relegations and zero promotions in the last 25 years. That's proper rough. Think about it, most traditional football league clubs have had at least say 4 promotions during that time. Some serious loyalty to still be an Oldham fan and to stick with it. Respect to them all 👍
Spot on.
I know no team has a divine right to be successful but with no promotion since 1991 and no top half finish since 2009, they have every right to moan and complain about the club. I would hope no one says otherwise because that is such a depressing record. All other football leagues have had their moments over the last 30 years, so why shouldnt they?
My god that is absolutely BRUTAL like I would support a different club at that point
At least they have not gone bankrupt.
@@Micfri300 not yet, but if we dip into non-league next season that could verry seriously be the end
@matt whelan maybe it’ll be for the best? The ham has gotten to old and rancid. Time for some NEW ham🥓🍖🙃
I remember watching Oldham in the 1994 FA Cup Semi Final. Seconds away from beating Man Utd in their prime at Wembley, then Hughes equalises. Oldham didn't win a single league game after that, and they never recovered. Very sad to see. You could argue the moment Oldham died was when Hughes' volley hit the net.
So sad to hear how this is happening at so many historic clubs, surprised the EFL doesn't have more powers to bail teams out.
Also, a "What is going on in Turkey video" would be super interesting. Fenerbache and Besiktas are 1 and 2 points off of third respectively, but Fenerbache is a whopping 20 points behind Trabzonspor, a club which hasn't won the league in over a decade, while Konyaspor has a 10 point lead over third.
Galatasary is seriously threatened by relegation, and the everything just looks wrong right now.
Also basaksehir who were fighting in the champions league his season are relegation threatened
@Ali Atwi That was more last season, this season Başakşehir are actually just as close to Fernebache (mabye ahead now) as to relegation
Trabzonspor last won the league in 1984, the 2011 title ended up being won by Fenerbahce, but in very controversial circumstances (match fixing allegations).
@@llamarolled3843 oh ok
and fenerbache has ozil who is suprise hurt and hasn't played in a while
Oxford fan...we had three seasons in the top flight in the mid 1980s....20 years later we were in the Conference....During the 90s we played 2nd tier football and punched above our weight....and then it transpired that we were £13 million in debt and the bank called it in.... after the subsequent firesale we plummeted down the league......consecutive 0-7 defeats at home being the 'lowlight'....we even struggled in our second season in the Conference....dark days.. . What happened at Bury fills me with disgust....couldn't City and United have helped them ? The financial imbalance in football these days is disgusting. The FA have a lot to answer for.
I'm doing a Oxford save on fm so I always look out for how they are doing
No, City and United could not bail them out. Not how football works. It's also not how you hold people accountable. Fact is. It's on the EFL ultimately. They need to do better.
But the City and United owners don't care about Bury and I'm not surprised,they don't know anything about them realistically so why should they care
City and/or united bailing them out would just allow further mismanagement
I would be okay with Premier League teams sponsoring one or two teams, even if they were to use them as academy teams. Or where older players show up and draw fans. There are numerous players who don't want to hang up the cleats but cannot manage top or even second flight football. The wealthier clubs could even give fans to their games free admission to a Conference or League One game. It just seems wrong for people not to have a local team.
I really feel for the proper fans of teams like this who have to watch their clubs be destroyed. It’s one thing if your team isn’t playing well but when the owners are hell bent of ruining what you love it must hurt.
If your club isn’t in CL, why should I care?
@@robert2690 What is your actual point? Are you suggesting only CL team matter? Because that’s a horrible take.
@@robert2690 What a stupid comment. Good top class players don´t grow on trees around Old Trafford or the Etiad. You need all the other lesser teams to produce them. One of Manchester United´s long standing top players, Denis Irwin, came from Oldham, who were conned by Sir Alex in accepting a knock down transfer fee at the time.
As an Oldham fan who has loved the club for over 20 years, I want to thank you for making this video and showing the flaws of shite owners and what they do to the clubs we all love, like Derby, Macclesfield, Bury etc these are massive parts of people's lives and they are just going disappear/ed, it is such a massive shame.
Good luck for the rest of the season, looking like you guys will stay up this year now, sending us down (Carlisle) instead
The only distant, very distant hope, is the example of Brighton. Crapped on from a great height by dodgy owners but have managed a phoenix like resurrection to the Premier league.
Sad stuff Andy, proper football club too. Looking forward to visiting this season as a Wrexham fan though.
@@TomWxm I genuinely thought you guys would go up this season very unlucky not to, but you will next season, I think you will go up as Champs, good luck for the season ahead !!
@@Andy-pc4bn me too, but we did what we always do & bottled it. Good luck too for the season mate!
If i was the lucky Brit who won the £109m euro millions, I'd buy out a club like Oldham in a heartbeat. I am sick and tired of seeing historical clubs struggling. I wish their fans all the best
I'd but my local non-league club, it was 6th tier now 8th, owner threw his toys out of the pram after stadium plans were denied. Get them to L2/NL my town is one of the largest without a football league team.
@@HarryWessex what team
I would get planning permission and build an indoor football arena for six a side football competitions, with a small seating stand, changing rooms etc but for recently retired pro's. Try and get a TV company to televise it.
@@johnmitchell2269 it's called the masters and already goes on sky sports has been for over 20 years
@@chris-mc4dg I know about the Masters. I was watching football pre Premier League. That was five a side on a tiny playing area. I'm on about six a side on a bigger indoor pitch for retired players in their 30's and early 40's not guys in their late 50's.
What's been happening to Oldham all these years has been so sad. To see them potentially even drop out of the Football League is even more disheartening. I just hope they manage to escape getting relegated, and get rid of their current owners. I actually enjoy managing Oldham on Football Manager and use it as a challenge to get them back into the Premier League. It's shocking they've never managed a promotion for over 20 years.
I love using Oldham on FIFA's manager mode as well.
Makes for a challenge, and it's great to see a club like them be promoted, if only virtually.
31 years since we've won anything, including promotions, three relegations and that's it.
As an Oldham fan been waiting ages for a video like this. Honestly could do a netflix series about whats gone on, comical.
Netflix could make a series about badly managed English teams in general, would have more seasons than The Walking Dead
Wrexham have now spent 14 years in the National League, Stockport County dropped out of the league in 2011 and even spent 6 years in regional football, both now look to be on their way back but needed significant investment to turn things round, there's still Grimsby, Notts County, Chesterfield, Torquay, Southend and Halifax battling it out down there, while in the National league North you've got Chester, Darlington, York and Hereford struggling to even make it to the National League. Oldham are in for a massive shock, their crowds will hold up but even now they wouldn't be in the top 5 non league attandances, the overheads at a club like Oldham will be crippling. Clubs like Boreham Wood, Solihull and Bromley will always challemge at the top end, it's a tough division.
Hahaha, Chesterfield were nearly in the championship, but a dodgy owner took them down to the national league 😂
Luckily, Wrexham seems to be favorites to recover and go back up with new owners
I've never heard of a sponsor of a club publicly calling that club a disgrace this is crazy
Seems clear there's a systematic issue in the UK where historic clubs are being run into the dirt by owners with no real love for the game or that are even fraudsters - maybe it shouldn't be so easy to buy and/or retain ownership of a football club. With situations like this the FA should have the power to force owners to sell up, allowing situations like this to carry on for year brings the English game into disrepute. Some kind of process or funding that would make it easier for fans to take over ownership of their club would help fix the system too
Interesting point, it's really not as common to see in places like Germany and France isn't that fair to say?
@@gerjerry99 It‘s pretty much impossible to purchase a professional club in Germany. The 50+1 rule means that >50% of a club belongs to the fans and not one person or company can own a share majority. There are some exceptions, but the likes of Bayern and Dortmund are owned that way.
In theory, you're right, in practice, these people are so non-interventionist, they only see people with huge sums of money and don't do a more intensive background check. If they did that, you would hope that they could fish out potential fraudsters. It's never going to be a perfect system but you would at least hope for some semblance of integrity from the officials. Saying that, you look who's running the country and you start to think, well bollocks to tradition, send me the paycheque! English football is rotten to the core and if it keeps this up, swathes of locales will be left with either nothing or trying to resurrect phoenices over and over again. That'll wear anyone out over time.
The 'Fit and Proper' test is a joke and always has been. Look at owners like the Venky's, the Oyston's, the Allam's, Fawaz, Nott's County's previous owners, Bury's last owner, Portsmouth under both Gaydamak and Al Fahim. Ken Anderson at Bolton, Peter Ridsdale at Leeds.
Bury is the worst, there was an offer on the table that would keep the club alive, but it was refused by Dale, who felt he could make more money from the club he had bought for a pound. The EFL should have the final say in selling a club if it goes into administration, and owners loans to a club should be a forced right off if the club is insolvent.
Bury had 1 million pounds owing in wages, 4 million in tax, 2.4 to other creditors, a 3.6 million mortgage on the ground and 10.7 million owing to Dale and his daughters partner. The tax and Other creditors had been negotiated to 25% payable, 75% written off, the mortgage debt didn't need to be paid off when the club changed hands So if Dales debt had been written off 2.5 million quid would have saved the club. C&N were willing to pay more than that, but weren't willing to go as high as the 7.5 m Dale insisted on.
Great video, I have to applaud the Oldham fans; 1000+ traveled to Scunthorpe (2/5/22) for a Battle of the Bottom, which saw OAFC triumph 1-0. I almost feel good about that, but my beloved Iron lost. Ah the EFL!
After their takeover Bray Wanderers will now takeover as the worst run football club now unfortunately
I raise a serious question here - how is it that this seems to happen to clubs over and over again in the Greater Manchester & Cheshire area? Macclesfield, Bury, Oldham, Wigan, Bolton, it's a roll call of pretty much every town in the area - why is there so many like this in this area? Yeah, there are plenty of clubs elsewhere that are struggling hard, but it seems that outside of the very richest (Man United and Man City) and the very poorest (low level non-League), every club in the region is absolutely shagged.
It's probably because potential football owners are more enticed into purchasing clubs closer to London as they'd find it easier to attract sponsors and increase revenue streams. I lived in Bacup for a while which isn't that far away from Manchester and I've experienced this first hand.
I suspect this is because there are simply not enough fans (that are not fans of United & City) in the Greater Manchester area that are able to financially sustain all those smaller football clubs.
Not good since clubs in the 3rd Tier & below are more reliant than most on Matchday Revenue.
Most of this started to happen when city got money. Kids have no patience or pride in their local towns so it's just easier to support city who give instant gratification to kids. Shame cos oldham is a great club
@@mancunioner Hasn't this been an issue for decades however? After all Manchester United have long been among the biggest clubs on earth while Manchester City where getting regular crowds of 40,000+ even when they where crap.
Of course it's true that the Al-Nahyan Takeover of City has made things even worse, it's just that the problem has been there for some time beforehand.
@@MrSmith1984 not really. The population of Gtr Manc has swelled a fair bit over the last 20 years and oldham have gone from getting 8-9k a week and city getting 35k when there was actually a smaller population to oldham now getting about 4k on a good day and city getting 50k even though there's a larger pool of people available. Also go to Boundary Park and look at the age demographics. Barely any kids or young people cos this fifa generation with their low concentration and need for instant gratification aren't prepared to grind through mediocrity even when it's their local team if they can watch city for free which is often the case cos city literally give away tickets for free in schools
It’s a sad demise of my hometown club. Oldham being 6 miles from Manchester also means a lot of people support City or United. It seems a long time ago I was at Wembley watching them in a League Cup final. I hope Latics can survive After Abdallah Lensigam inevitably leaves
I remember that League cup final against Forest 1990 I'm a City fan went with City to boundary park in 1993 when Oldham was in the premier League City won 1-0 Niall Quinn scoring the winner MCFC
I remember how good Oldham were in the 1989/90 season. They were the cup upset specialists that season. Beating Arsenal in the League cup and West Ham in the semi final, winning 6-0 in the first leg at Boundary Park. They only lost 1-0 to Forest in the final at Wembley stadium. They almost beat United in the FA cup semi final, drawing 3-3 at Maine Road in the first game which was a thrilling game. Losing 2-1 in the replay. They were even better in 1990/91 getting promoted to the first division. I remember going to Old Trafford at the start of the 1991/92 season and watching United beat them narrowly, 1-0 with a late McClair goal. That was their golden period, up until the end of the 1993/94 season. I hope they turn it around.
As a Tranmere Rovers fan (we nearly went out of buisnes in the early 80s) and we went into the national league not so long ago. So dont give up ... you can Come Back all you need is jenuine people! and I wish you All The Best.
I've been looking at Oldham's league record & my own club Millwall, I noticed Rotherham was top of league one so also there's
Rotherham are going for their 3rd promotion in 6 seasons & has 3 relegations
Millwall looks like its heading to stay in the championship for a 6th season next year. Longest stint in a division since 1979-1985.
Rochdale Spent 36 seasons in the 4th Tier 1974-2010. Must have gotten so boring for the fans
@@firstnamesurname5376 As much as I hate being relegated. I love those promotions. 6 Seasons in the same division is weird for me.
@@HarryWessex try being a derby fan we spent 14 years in the championship fighting for and bottling promotion just to leave the league in the wrong direction 😂
@@indiekiddrugpatrol3117 Yeah being a Millwall fan isnt to bad, but kinda like being blue balled, we do average then February we do really well, slightly to late to get in the play offs, but still can mathematically. Then 41st/42nd match we start to bottle it & end up 8th-10th 😅 apart from a few seasons ago where we finished 21st but we did have 2-3 seasons with the most draws in the top 4 divisions.
@@HarryWessex being a derby fan is frustrating my first season of watching we got promoted then had the worst season in PL history then did everything we could to get back up, bottled it season after season till we had no money left and the rests history 😂 I respect Millwall tho proper loyal working class fanbase don't have enough of them left down south
The rapid ascent of Canadian football or John Herdman’s impact on Canadian football (women’s and men’s, the Canadian federation) would be a great topic. Back to back Olympic bronze and a mens team that went from 94th to 33rd under his leadership is really damn impressive.
Nah, not now... Wait until they actually qualify, even though they are currently at 99% chance now... 🤔🤔🤔
@@ddddirge The only need one point to qualify. It is a pretty sure bet, even then it is still pretty dang impressive.
I remember when we lost 8 nil to Honduras. The REDS are here ❤️🇨🇦
Maqwell has a great vid on this subject
@@CEddyAV19 I saw, great vid!
Would love to see a video like this about Coventry. I don't think many people really know the story about SISUs secret investors, the debacle of the Ricoh/AEH agreement and the club's rampant third party ownership of players being one of the main reasons that practice became so aggressively banned in England
Finally! This is the one I’ve been waiting for, out for a walk now so I ll watch when I get home😊
Were you one of the comments in the video if you get me
@@RayWants350SubsBe4July4PlzThxx yes
Love your channel and your work mate.
I have a football manager channel. I made a series with Oldham earlier this year. And now I'm doing one with Scunthorpe. Researching Scunthorpe for my series is how I came across your channel.
I have now spent the bank holiday weekend watching endless videos of yours. Everyone is really enjoyable. You can see how hard you work.
Keep it up mate. You should have millions of subs IMO 👍🏻
Great in-depth video as always! Next time you should do a video covering Galatasaray who are Turkish giants but this season is only 3 points from relegation, which is absolutely insane given the stature of the club! They have only 1 win in 14 matches and its also worth mentioning that their current manager is Domènec Torrent who was Pep Guardiola's old assistant at Barca, Bayern and City. Keep up the great work!!!
We ended up at Oldham v Crewe for my stag do (we went for the cricket the night before) so I've kept a wee eye out for their results since. Glad you've made this as it'll explain a lot to me!
Which is worse watching Oldham or being married? 😂
@@Roundholesinsquarepegs we made sure to be in the away end!! 😂
You can do this on alot of teams eg Southend, Gillingham etc
Reading, Scunthorpe, maybe Doncaster as well and probably more, there is so much to cover but he can't possibly do all of it!
All of whom who've had promotions and bounce backs. We've been on a permanent decline for 20+ years. Fair to say other clubs have had it bad but it's not the same. None of those mentioned have been nowhere near the top division or been in Finals/Semis. Their stories are different.
Love your content. Love your analysis. Love your videos. Love your style. ❤️ Is there any intriguing topic in football that you haven't covered? 😂 Keep up the amazing job! Would love to know more about the English Conference teams in the coming days from you... 👍🏽👍🏽
Been looking forward to this one.
Thanks, Alfie!
Great content!!! If you want to do another similar one you should do one on Bradford City. From the Premier League to league 2 in 6/7 seasons, administration x2, league cup final, fa cup runs, hoodwinked by German owner, cryto finances trying to buy the club! It would have it all! And I’m happy to help with the info if needed!!!
Many thanks for doing this video: it has been very helpful in explaining the situation. I feel sorry for Oldham fans and I hope they can get a chairman and a team that they deserve in the near future.
Thinking abut future videos, a phrase you mentioned in this one is that the National League is a hard division to get out of. In the past, League One was regarded as the hardest divison to get out of. It would be very interesting to see finally, with some facts an figures, which of England's top seven divisons is the hardest to get out of?
Just to say under the new ownership of Frank Rothwell and family things at OAFC are looking much better. The crowds in the Vanarama league at home are now better than in div 2. We were poor at the start of the season but have now climbed away from the bottom. The club is better run and there is optimism for season 23/24
Alfie, can we get a video about what happened to South African national squad since the 1990s? There was so much promise back then, and the nation certainly has the wealth and the population size to produce a quality national side, as well as successful national squads in other sports.
The Premier League breakaway from the EFL was good in the long run for English football...ie English Clubs are now the richest courtesy of the TV money they get and are going to financially dominate European football for the next decade at least..however the rest of the English football pyramid has been frozen out and is suffering more than it ever did b4 the 1992 breakaway
Financial problems and liquidation have always been a part of football but the new English football landscape has ensured that MONEY is the only way to get to the top and is making clubs overspend or gamble too much financially just to get promotions.
When the gamble does not pay off, it is a one way path to destruction.
It is a good video, good introduction to the video and hopefully Oldham can get some wins to stay up
Alfie Can you do a documentary on the afc Wimbledon on the nine promotions in eleven years, how they’re a fan own club and how they have a stadium in plough lane now.
The story of they lost the club, how the F A allowed that and won’t allow that anymore.
How they were very close to moving to ireland
How they went up the English football leagues.
It would be a good documentary video if you can do this. #thepeopleschannel
Great content as always. May I suggest you look into danish club Esbjerg fB? They came in third in the danish top tier only three years ago, yet this season they were relegated to third tier. That happened upon a season of six different managers, one of which were accused of physically punishing his players during training. All of this because new owners took over the club, without any idea of how to run a club in the danish league. Very interesting case of modern football gone really sour really fast, albeit not the most interesting of leagues. This phenomenon is a cancer to the sport we love so much, and I just want to shine a light on all the worst cases. Cautionary tales all of these stories.
Oldham have always been my second club when I used to play them on Fifa back in the day. Ritchie Wellens was my favourite player for the club back then
I think there are rules that would prevent City or United intervening in financial matters, but yes, they could make it all go away. That wouldn't be fair on all the other clubs fighting for life though. It seems strange that it's gone this bad since FFP began though. Clubs have to speculate sometimes. It's like throwing overboard with rocks tied to the club, and then telling it to swim.
Another absolutely amazing video. Brilliant!!!!!
Love the videos. Keep the good work up. 👍
Loving these videos since I discovered your account, especially the lower league stuff. Have you considered doing anything on Carlisle United and Paul Simpson at all? Interesting story there in his previous back to back promotions with them, recovery from cancer, and return to club as he saved them from relegation then took them up again the next season
Oldham was the first-ever football team I watched live in a stadium as a result I've already had a soft spot for them. I think they have been one of the unluckiest clubs going, have achieved next to nothing since they were relegated from the Premier League. Hopefully, the current Owner sells and a new one can get them back on track next season. Can't see them avoiding relegation this season even with the Miracle One that is in charge
Yep same as me 1987 vs Bradford I took penalties on the pitch at half time lol!!!on the dodgy plastic@!!
brilliant vid alfie. a retrospective articulation of our beatiful game.
We (Port Vale) were singing along with the Oldham fans when we went away to theirs due to the nature of the songs. As we know about having dodgy owners!
Awwww football fwends
@@SaudiGod Hahaha
It's looking increasingly likely that my team (Walsall) will help Oldham out a bit and keep them up as we are atrocious. Coupled that with 7 points from 9 from Oldhams last 3 games. I think they'll survive now.
Great video as always, Alfie.
Perhaps you could figure one out about Walsall FC as they are in turmoil as I mentioned.
problem with walsall is your owner Jeff bonser is a tight fucker who never spends money iv been to loads of walsall games over the years as my old school mate used to play up front Gary birch
We need one of these videos about Scunthorpe
Thank you for sharing our plight
Great video, now maybe time to highlight Oldham’s relegation party friends at Scunthorpe United? What Peter Swann has done to the club is nothing short of a disgrace.
These are the kind of vids I love, lower tier football league or non league specials
Since I was just a young boy!
My father said to me!
We are the supporters!
Of Oldham athletic!
Through all the good and bad times!
We’ve traveled near and far!
But you’ll always hear us scoring!
From the stands of boundary park!
Allez! Allez! Allez!
As a long suffering Oldham fan, I’m so glad you’ve covered us on your channel. I’m one of many of us who have never seen success, the only highlights have been the Cup upsets over the years and the two play offs.
I know I share the same view as most of our fans, we don’t expect Premier League football. Most would be happy with bottom half Championship at best. All we want is a well run club that looks after it’s staff, giving youth players a platform to further their careers and a bit of excitement here and there.
What has gone on in the last 5/6 years has been disgraceful. Heart and soul ripped from the club.
IF we do manage to stay up, attention must return to sale of the club.
Was at Wembley in 1994 when we managed to get, thanks to Mark Hughes, a 1-1 draw in the FA Cup semi-final. Also saw them in 1975, 56000 fans saw us beat Oldham 3-2. Sad to see them now.
Great watch my friend 😊
this isnt just oldham over the years and its many clubs who have had terrible owners and once gone can make a good comeback look at doncaster in the 90s when we had a owner who couldnt care less then we nearly went bust jhon ryan took over and got us back to where we were only now 10 years later were back in leauge 2 for 2nd time in 4 seasons i honestly feel for oldham fans and hope one day you get rid of him and bounce back as i write this they unfortuanly been religated out of the league and its a terrible shock that another club is going out of leauge and proberly wont be back anytime soon im hope im wrong and they can come back better and stronger from a doncaster rovers fan i hope and prey you be back stronger but don't ever give up keep doing what your doing and he will be gone one day good luck next season anyway and hope well see you back soon
Been waiting for this for ages
What on earth is going on At Wolfsburg, they were in The top 4 last season, but now they are 16 in the league, facing a relegation battle
Weren't they in a relegation play off a few years ago?
Glasner left Then the hired LITERAL cabbage heads and gave them jobs that's why they are 16th
@@tumpasarkar2370 Cough Cough Kohfeldt cough cough, who took Werder Bremen from mid table to being relegated, losing 7 of their last 8 games of the season
Wolfsburg are one of the worst run football clubs in Germany and have been for a good decade. However, thanks to Volkswagen they have a guaranteed, unlimited Cashflow. Therefore, this is the third time since 2009 that they have crashed from the CL to a super close relegation battle in almost no time.
Hiya alfie, just wondering if you could cover what's going on with PMG and how terrible their ownership of their current clubs (being Oostende of Belgium, AS Nancy of France and Barnsley FC, the club I support) 2 of the aforementioned clubs are currently rock bottom of their respective divisions whilst Oostende are sitting 14th. Nancy did a protest today as of writing this comment against the ownership of PMG whilst Barnsley are planning on doing one in our home match against QPR. Love your content btw
What on earth is going on at Birmingham City next please ☺️ loving the vids as always babes 💋
Finally a video about us! What a pain it's been...
I used to dread my lot (West Ham) playing on the drastic plastic back in the 90s. We got battered 6-0 on Valentines Day in a semi final. That pitch did save them many a time. I was glad to see them, QPR and Luton have to get rid.
Finally,a video regarding one of my favourite clubs daily and ever Oldham Athletic,good friends!!!I am extremely so sad to see them tumbling in the relegation zone for many games in the English League 2(Fourth Division English Football) so far this season and indeed,are doomed to the English Non League football,the fifth division English football,good friend!!!I am indeed in tears to see them struggling a lot for around 4 years due to the disappointing owners' financial dealings during the respective transfer windows to see being mired in the bottom of the table,good friends!!!Somehow,I am being hopeful to see Oldham Athletic to be surviving miraculously in the fourth division football through strategic planning by the manager to the respective players to try and win most of their matches and my full support on them,good friends!!!LONG LIVE OLDHAM ATHLETIC AND COME ON THE LATICS,SURVIVE IN THE ENGLISH LEAGUE 2!!!🏃♂️🏄♂️🏋️♂️
@serli Jerda 4 Hi good friend,how are you?:-D
Could you please do a video on Wigan's adminstration scandal in 2020-21? Lots of juicy stuff there which I'm surprised you haven't covered yet
Great video but wondering if you could do a video on the recent Crystal Palace and Hartlepool FA Cup tie. Some really classy things Palace did leading up to the tie.
Tea?
I use to work for a IT company that would support Oldham athletic and due to the whole stadium dispute they had to change there contract for per call/ per fix instead of yearly like every other company. It became such an issue because they would sometimes refuse to pay on simple calls and fixes so we was instructed to refuse service when they called. This was still the case when I left but I was told by someone who still worked there that their contract was terminated because of unpaid bills
A similar video on Southend United and their recent troubles would be quite an interesting watch
Great video again!
As a Bolton fan naturally I would like to stuff Oldham in every game we play against them.
However, I have no pleasure in their struggles. Let's hope they can turn the corner.
Would love a what's going on at Scunthorpe United, after we just lost to Oldham to take bottom spot in the EFL this past weekend. Our owner owns the stadium we play in (leaving fans convinced he wants to just sell the land), sells our best players every transfer window and the attendances have dwindled to the lowest I've seen them in my lifetime. Used to be one of the most financially stable clubs in the lower leagues of England, now look destined for non-league obscurity for a very long time with great debt.
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What a disgrace. As a long time Palace fan i can feel the pain for Oldham supporters. It wasn't too long ago that Palace were in a simular predicament, although not as bad as Oldham. Luckily for us Messrs Parish, Long, Browett and Hoskin saved us. And for their intervention all Palace fans will always be eternally grateful. I really hope some consortium or other step up to the plate and help this proud club. Good luck guys.
As a person who has lived in Greater Manchester all my life i enjoyed this video 👍
as a commoner view, i'm saying this without any disrespect, but my mind, when i see oldham athletic, i can't think another word than "depression"...maybe i got emphasized by the "old" part, but when i knew their stadium status, their league status...it's just doesn't help it.
But i'm glad you can lift up their real condition. damn, can't imagine being loyal with what they've faced. Props to their fans! Hope someday you'll see a great bright sky!
my only oldham , my only oldham makes me happy when skys are grey
Great Vid really done your homework 👍
Would you do an episode about Barnsley ? From 180 mins away from prem football not going down with two wins in one year
could you do a video on what clubs have stayed in what leagues the longest
like it's pretty crazy to hear oldham stayed in League1 for 21 years. No relegations, promotions.. must have been pretty dull as a fan always finishing mid table in a mid tier league ?
though i suspect they'd trade the dullness of finishing 17th place in league 1 every year for what they're going through now
Need to do the same kind of video on Bradford City, Premiership, multiple administrations to league two, start to re-build then Rahic comes along. A million managers later a bang average L2 team with the satadium and fan base of a championship/ premier league side
Have you done an episode on my club Southend United???
Plenty of ups and downs, more downs than ups though!!!
Excellent video
@HITC Sevens, for your next what on earth is going on series, have you thought about doing a video about Birmingham City. They won the league cup in 2011, and have experienced stagnation for 10 years . Then there was Carson Yeung a former Birmingham City who got arrested between 2013-2014, as well as protests about the current ownership BSH.
Superb production
I think you should make one of these about Scunthorpe aswell
Agreed
yes
Your fans don’t care about your club as much as clubs like Oldham I saw yesterday their fans at your place then I had a look at your fans at their place and I can clearly see who it means more too
@@lurkxz5426 because we’re a smaller club compared to Oldham and I tell you half of them their at our place weren’t there at their place
@@sebv0894 Oldham are in far different position than you, 70% of their fans where protesting until abdallah said he is looking to sell and Sheridan came in charge then they got 8k at home and sold 2 thousand new season tickets for the rest of the year,I’m talking about pride and passion not numbers just look what it means to them and I watched your fans at their place and it’s just yeey we won
Great 👍 documentary
Drawn to this video as my son was playing footy at the weekend directly behind the ground and I wondered what had happened to them in recent years. Seems like another notts county and sad for the game
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@@rinconloads3817 this isn't relevant
Even if Oldham is going down, I will never stop supporting the latics, standing with them untill the end!
There needs to be more of a drip down to the lower leagues to support them.
However as I've heard previously, why would the big clubs agree to that? The more clubs that dissappear, the closer they get to making a super league without breaking any rules.
I'd like to see a video about how geography and economics effect the performance of football clubs over time, or vice versa. I think the city of Sheffield is a football anomaly and I wonder if if geography has something to do with their status.
Would you be willing to go back and revisit "what on earth is going on at Derby" as it just gets juicier and more depressing by the day
Video suggestion, why are so many clubs going into administration/ what should be done to combat it
Sadly it's all true... Great video, well presented and researched.
I remember Oldham's great win against a strong Liverpool team in the FA Cup in the last decade and them being a solid League 1 outfit. It's a shame how football clubs are being allowed to be run by people who have no respect for the game, let alone the club they currently own.
We have had some great experiences recently in the FA Cup beating Liverpool, Fulham, Nottingham Forest and a last minute equaliser against Everton things like that have given me and many other fans some amazing memories, but like the video says all of the money we get from that sort of stuff goes into the ground because it is not owned by the club it is owned by 2 money grabbers.
@@Andy-pc4bn Gary Neville was right about the government and football authorities needing to bring in rules where football grounds are unsellable as they're key parts of the community! The dodgy owners need to take the brunt of their recklessness and carelessness.
@@aidygooner I agree, it's not just that though with Latics unfortunately it's a very poorly run business with a bad team in charge of it.
Would love to see you do one for Real Zaragoza. It's been a while since they were in La Liga and they're potentially facing to drop the the primera division rfef (3rd Division).
Xerez has gone from La Liga to Andulusia Regional RFEF (5th Division) in 13 years. The financials on them are well known, but that only gets them to fall to the 4th, but then they have meandered between 4th and 5th ever since.
Hope to Oldham and fans they can gain stability and see a promotion soon
Abdullah’s gone and Rpthwell’s in. LETS GOOOOO
Good one Alfie!👍🏻
Good job 👍🏼
After Bury and Macclesfield, and risky situations at Oldham and Rochdale, Manchester is risking losing most of its most interesting footballing history
Rochdale are safe now, thanks to fans rallying round in April and May 2021 collectively repelling unwanted outside interest in a solvent club that owns its own ground.
Should do a documentary style vid on Exeter City … would be fun
Hi video idea - the best premiere league 11 with each player wearing the same jearsy number as the position they play in eg striker no.9 , goalkeeper no 1, right back 2 left back 3 etc ..
Greater Manchester is in the mud, man.
Shout out to Oldham for winning that Premier League for Manchester United. How the heck is Oldham heading out of the football leagues?
It’s shocking that a club can have this happen I just want my club back 😔
Oldham may save my club. Carlisle United; but those great days in the late eighties and nineties…what was not to like.
Its depressing to think my club if goes down this year will probably die. We can't recover from going into non-league 😔