Why I disagree with PML-N's politics - Shahid Khaqan Abbasi - Elections and Establishment -
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- Shahid Khaqan Abbasi is a Pakistani politician and businessman who served as the 21st prime minister of Pakistan.
Shahid Khaqan Abbasi comes on The Pakistan Experience to discuss the Elections 2024, dealing with the Establishment, PML-N's politics, the return of Nawaz Sharif, General Bajwa's Extension, Hybrid Regime, Imran Khan, Tosha Khana, Foreign Policy, PIA and the LNG Case.
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Chapters
0:00 Introduction and Elections 2024
3:00 Dealing with the Establishment and offers from the Establishment
7:16 PML-N’s Politics, PPP and Benazir’s election as Prime Minister
14:51 Has Nawaz Sharif’s Politics been buried?
19:13 General Bajwa’s Extension
21:30 Hybrid Regime, Democracy and the role of the Prime Minister
27:39 2014 Dharna, Military interference and Article 6
32:00 How to establish democracy in Pakistan, The Constitution and the rules of the Game
39:49 Specific Action Plan is needed for the Country
50:08 Nawaz Sharif’s Jalsa, Reality of Politics and Tosha Khana
1:00:21 Foreign Policy
1:04:15 Pakistan needs Radical Reform, CPEC and IPPs
1:17:20 Privatization of PIA
1:22:08 Shahid Khaqan Abbasi’s LNG Case, Biding and Investments
1:35:30 Audience Questions - Zábava
Out of entire PMLN, KHAGAN ABASI is the only person I respect.
Can't believe itne humble log bhi Pakistan politics ka part hain. ❤
The most sensible pakistani politician I have heard ever quite a surprise
It helps if you have a proper education.
They all seem so sensible in interviews but when they're in power, it's a different matter.
He tells half truths and half lies.
He says he doesn't support PMLN politics of grabbing power by any means.
But then he says he is not ready to oppose it in public or criticise them.
Then what is the benefit of all this?
Please take him. He can manage your life as he managed things being in politics of Pakistan. We are offering him to you free of cost.
@@na773 He is not a talented politician, wont survive the electoral battle in India, he is yours with love.
It's unfortunate men like Khaqan Abbas are now allowed to rise through the ranks of our political parties.
A former Prime Minister and a person full of Humbleness & Simplicity ❤❤❤❤ generally I have never ever been his party's supporter but this man's individual personality qualities are really AMAZING........
I am from India , avid follower of this channel . Very objective , balanced and in depth analysis . Kudos to founder for brining this value to general audience
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True, this podcast is very nice to watch. I second to Rohit. Keep it up please, be impartial and general educated public ought to know the facts. Leave others as they don't have the capability to understand.
his honesty was such a breath of fresh air
Best politician
Best podcast
Best best best
Hats off to all genuine politicians 👏 🙌 👍 👌
Pretty reasonable and gentlemanly politician. It’s a shame that the top leaders in Pakistan are all mired in corruption while decent and competent folks like Abbasi and Miftah Ismail are left out or when in, treated like minions.
When I learnt the word "friend-zoned", I realised what was happening with my life and eventually corrected course. Later when I learnt the word "populism", I realised the IK phenomena. Populism is not just a Pakistan specific issue. It is a global thing now, specially since the mass availability of social media. The antidote to establishment ( which manifests its self in many countries ) is not populism. It is good hearted people in power, of which Mr Khaqan is a prime example. He seems light years away from sizzling narratives, controversy, soundbites, mis-information and other populism infested phenomenas. He seems a genuine person who wants betterment for my country. Kudos to him and TPE team for this wonderful episode. 😄
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This “good hearted” who actively was part of a political party that army created?
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This is one of the best guests and interviews of 2023.
A man of integrity and statesmenship. Love from Srinagar Kashmir
PMLN is making a mistake by Ignoring him. He should be filed as a candidate for CM Punjab, and report directly to NS.
Fan boy moment after listening to the Real PM . Impressive interviewing skills on display.
Loved every exchange of thoughts
Cheers
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After a long time I listened to a very honest, good and balanced conversation. I already appreciate Khakan Abbasi Shb. I wish we have more sober, loyal character oriented people. Convey my Salam and best wishes to him. For the channel keep up good work.
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Glad that you have graduated to THIS level!!! God bless 🙏🏻🙏🏻
This graduation is truly a tribute to the efforts that you did and the blood and sweat that came with it!!!
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This host is biased in favour of corrupt parties.
This is not something to be proud of 😂
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@@Wanderer975😮 low battery
No matter what, our greatest PM Modi will never agree to have press conference or answer uncomfortable questions....Kudos to this guy!!!
Modi is uneducated. This guy went to Caltech while Modi was making tea from gas from sewer drain
Modi’s interview with Karan Thappar is the reason why he’ll never agree
Modi's ministers have already done podcast with Ranveer. Check it out for intellectual depth
Modi doesn’t need to compare his work to others. Especially someone from a failed country.
Lol Modi has invested lot in infra. Even raghuram rajan accepted it that Modi govt did right things in creating infrastructure... I have not heard any scholarly answer from this educated PM ..
I am so happy to see TPE podcast grow. Congrats to you Shehzad Ghias, you are a gem of a person!
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@@ThePakistanExperienceìlulululhljllhhlllļmkmĺllĺllmmkkìòìì❤❤
A sensible and sincere prime minister in the history of our country!
عباسی صاحب کی مثال ہماری سیاست کے" اندھوں میں کانا راجہ " جیسی ہے۔
I have never seen any Politician being so honest. Shahid Sahab earned my respect. This has to be the best podcast of a Politician I have watched. PMLN needs people like Shahid Sahab. Plus Shehzad sir your podcasts are excellent. please keep producing such great content. Much Love.
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He has recently become honest or has been made to
@@wheeliestoppie i know shahid sir for a very long time now, and he has been such a wonderful person to meet with always, i do have many issues with their party even though i dont even support their political party, but shahid sir as a person is very great and humble man, first i thought that he is the ex pm of pakistan and owner and exacutive of air blue so he would be no less then ambani, but he is very genuine person and very attractive personality to talk with and learn from.
He is not honest.
He told many lies in this podcast.
@@MAzeeshan-po2nu One of his achievements is his role of destruction in PIA. He was chairman of PIA between 1997 to 1999. He benefited from PIA experience & launched Air Blue in 2003. As a chairman he didn't try to fight open-skies policy (which destroyed PIA) and he is still supporting privatization initiatives which have already ruined Pakistan's economy.
Shehzad... i watched 75% of it and its been entertaining. I loved the way you '' politely grilled the ex PM on Toshkana'' and stuck with your views on democatic values. Despite the fact that i am pretty weak on Urdu (subtitle if possible); I couldnt stop watching. Keep up with this non biased objective approach and be the voice of Pakistan to the outside world. Thank you bro!!
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Shahid khaqan is amazing i think people like him can change pakistan
Shehzad I am really happy for you to ask such straight forward and direct questions. Respect, especially for the toshakhana reference.
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I admire the HOST. Valuable and relevant Conversation with Ex-PM is not an easy job...
Want to read Khaqan Abassis Biography very soon 📙📙📙
What a man SKA sb is, the highest taxpayer of Pakistan who never advertised his success. Thanks for this amazing podcast, Shezad bro. You are the best host I must say.
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A good gesture to listen and talk with everyone
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@@ThePakistanExperience u didn't ask my questions very sad bro
I have started following your channel about 1 and a half year ago and was so happy to see you cross 100k and over few months not only your reach is increasing but the guest list as well. Really regretted not being able to attend your black hole interaction in person.
Just don't lose your style and rational approach... Keep doing what you are doing with utmost sincerity.
Also good job with this important interview especially when you are not even a mainstream news anchor. I enjoyed the session and refreshing to see our politicians talking so composed unlike their tv appearances.
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Off course Pakistan is governed by establishments, people do not question that anymore. Pakistan is an open Garrison for the Pakistani Army, they say a country has its own army, but in terms of Pakistan, an army has a whole country.
The Pakistan Experience is a very unique program and that is why I love to watch it.
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Listening from india
This podcast is enough to understand Pakistan politics and how army control Pakistan specially foreign policies
Ultra excited to listen to this gem of a podcast. I already know it’s going to be a gem.. cannot wait to log off from work and give this a good listen while driving around in Miami, FL 🇺🇸
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شاہد خاقان عباسی کا یہ انٹر ویو شاندار۔
یار عوام عوام عوام ۔ عوام کچھ کا مائنڈ اس لیول پہ نہیں ۔ پہلے سسٹم دو ۔ پھر عوام کو چننے دو۔ لیڈر قیادت کرتے ہیں ۔ عوام کیسے لیڈ کریں گے ۔
کیا تھرڈ کلاس اینکر کے ۔ عوام عوام عوام ۔ فیصلہ کریں ۔
پھر وہی بکواس اینکر عوام کے پاس جائیں ۔ عوام کی قیادت کی جاتی ہے ۔ عوام لیڈ نہیں کرتے ۔
Abbasi Saab!!!! we are excited to have you on this podcast. Let's see what's been happening in your life these days.
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I really liked Abbassi Saab comment: manage problems around you through your competence
I once met this man at a wedding I attended in Pindi, didn’t ask him anything other than pleasantries but this was very eye opening
Well said provinces should be divided into small provinces.
Absolutely phenomenal guy he is. Also the production quality is amazing. Well done buddy
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Khaqaan Abaasi sahab ap se baraaa munafiq nhi dekha mene ap ko pta hai k ap ghalt kaam kr rhe hain.Lekin phr bhi ap me itni ghairaat or himaat nhi k apne aamaal theek krlain..
Such a humble man... i am a big admirer of him... his vision, competency and of course his simplicity... I wish i could met him once
Khaqaan Abaasi sahab ap se baraaa munafiq nhi dekha mene ap ko pta hai k ap ghalt kaam kr rhe hain.Lekin phr bhi ap me itni ghairaat or himaat nhi k apne aamaal theek krlain..
Great discussion with Great politician of Pakistan Shaid khaqan Abbasi Sahib
I love how you are prepared with facts and concepts and issues to extract maximum information from your guests. Love from India. Keep growing. ❤
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Congratulations, shehzad for achieving this milestone, still watching so can't comment how it is.
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Shahid Khakan Abbasi is the next person of the Boys. Miftah, Khokar and Khakan are the next project of the Establishment.
The way you are extracting the info from him, and the way he is replying, only giving hints without disclosing complete info. Absolute mastery with the words❤😅
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im happy that u did this podcast and invited him....this was a treat.....thanks
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He is very mature in giving interviews
And shehzad ! You are good as always ❤
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Liked the Anchor for being so truthfully ruthless.
Salam,
What an amazing talk. We need more people like Shahid Khaqan Abbasi Sb in politics. Educated and principled.
Thank you Shehzad. I had written Abbasi Sb off as just another pmln politician but TPE has shown me otherwise.
JazakAllah kher
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This was a treat to watch and listen to.❤
Thank you both the gentlemen !
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I agree with SKA that all should come together and solve the problem .
Very interesting podcast ❤
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Thanks for taking my question 🤝 Although his answer was not solid but still we need some hope 🤷♂️
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Great podcast. On a seperate note, the production quality of this podcast was fantastic. Great quality footage and sound
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Two hours were still too less for this discussion, loved it. Thank you 🙏
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This one is a biggie! You are growing in stature day by day my friend. ❤
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One of the finest human beings and probably the only prime minister who should definitely be given another chance. And this time give him at least 5 years.
You earned my respect shahid khaqan abbasi Saab 🙏
Great work team TPE ❤️
Maza Aa gaya ❤❤❤
Want to see 1Million on your channel inshAllah very soon
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Congrats Shehzad for getting Ex PM on your show. It just feels like a short time ago you started with those bakchodiya pods. You have come really a long way. Not that I still don’t enjoy those causal pods. But this was your best work as a host. Very in-depth knowledge of the politics. To the point questions. Very articulate. This looked very refined/polished. . Keep growing. 👏👏
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Started from the bottom
Now we here
Massive respect for SKA and PMLN is very unfortunate to side line him just because he can speak his heart out and didn't accept the so-called leadership of Maryam Nawaz.
Shahid Khaqan Abbasi 10/10 ♡
A fOrmer PM?? WOW!! The level of this podcast has surpassed many other established ones.
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A very well-conducted podcast.
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One of the most sensible PMLN leaders. He should be in the senior ranks always.
One of the best podcast I have listened to. Mr Abbasi has alway been a great person. He is Honest , direct and very humble.
You have been improving with every podcast and this one was awesome. Loved it and would love to see more of them. God bless.
58:11 Kuddos for standing your ground! This explanation is necessary for layman to know 👍
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Hope you attain what your calibre deserves dude!! God bless ❤
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He is so honest and down to earth and what not...and cant get his head out of the bum of nawaz sharifs chor...
Shahid Khakan Abbasi is one of the few gems in politics. He truely deserve a decision making role where he can deliver. Good questions Shahzad!
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Unless the army goes back to the barracks, there is rarely any hope for Pakistan. If there is a good army chief now then probably he might go with this collective plan but once another man comes probably he might not tow the same line.
Now, if the army wants its share of GDP by showing the India as monster that’s also fine but keep them in the barracks. In some years, the politicians and people will pave a way forward.
But don't you think if we create a system of collaboration it will be tough for new ones to confront it and eventually they will have to collaborate with each other as well
im from india and i don't understand some internal topics of your podcast...but i listen to your each episode ... congratulations for the achievements. good luck
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He is right in saying that the way PMLn has adopted is not good, as in future this will haunt them in one or other way
Always so interesting to get an insiders view of pakistani politics like this is so facinating
It was all fun & games until Shehzad asked him about Thosha Khana. And our ex-PM blatantly and without any regret said that the gifts were given to me. They don't even see what's wrong with their mentality.
Every politician has the same mentality, so I guess it’s our national thing 🤷🏻♂️
Best of luck keep doing.....
Amazing podcast...........
Love from rural hyderabad 😅❤❤❤❤❤
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The most respected politicians in PMLN
Shahid khaqan Abbasi
And miftah Ismail
Khaqqan Abbasi is speaking from both ends.
He is telling us 6-7 people out of 240 millions people decide what to do it.
His arguments totally against constitution and democracy. Parliament should decide.
Host is absolutely right that elected people in parliament to build the consensus and direction for the country.
I used to respect him but today he is speaking the language of establishment and unelected people.
This podcast is seriously on another level! Well done!
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Bro you are playing on next Level i.e Legend’s Level. 😊
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sensible and candid always
I don’t know where in Islamabad you shot this but the production is top notch.
Amazing podcast Shehzad! Good work
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@@ThePakistanExperience Waiting for you to interview Altaf Hussain.
Now if someone comment shehzad noon leagyyyyy, that only means the person didn't watch this conversation, khaqan in this podcast seemed to be honest
Yehi toh masla hay, people who label me don't watch, :(
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Still i respect shahid khaqan at least he tries or have some insight about problems
Well done, Keep up the good work. Very glad to see you grow every day in every broadcast Mashallah
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Very exciting podcast. The inclusion of such distinguished scholars on the platform not only captivates our attention but also infuses a sense of optimism regarding the improvement of our societal fabric. This podcast serves as a beacon of intellectual enrichment, fostering a collective aspiration for positive change in our community and beyond. You are doing a great job.
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"intellectual enrichment" lmfao🤡
The only man whom i like in pmln alongwith miftah
I live somewhere sheikhupra. I was against him while being hijacked by propaganda of our sold media and I used to think he is a thief for example his LNG deal process. But slowly slowly after listening him since last 5-6 years I think he is some of the finest politicians ever produced by Pakistan..I used to think him as an establishment puppet but he is a true gentleman.
Thanks Sir
good job. love mr abbassi now. - a wise, intelligent, solid man. Insha'Allah his maturity and wisdom will catch on.
As always a very nicely done podcast. Keep up the good work. So happy to see you grow every day. Very well deserved!
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This podcast is amazing , made me challenge my preconceptions at so many levels.
sometimes I do not like what is being said on it , but that starts conversation with self.
In this specific one sections of "How to establish democracy in Pakistan, The Constitution and the rules of the Game" and "Specific Action Plan is needed for the Country" are highlights
@ThePakistanExperience , Just want to respond to your objection of "Band Kamron mein Faislay"
Mr. Abbasi was talking about building Political consensuses. All parties and CJP or COAS (who are supposed to be non political, and aught to be out of politics in or out of politics), needs to come up with "Action Plan", and agree that when it will be brought to parliament we will all vote for these basic structural and constitutional changes .
exactly yehi vo point tha jo Shehzad ni smjh rhy thy k ap jitni b majority k sath assembly me hon apko aesa kuch krny sy pehly dusri powers ko sath bethana hoga, ap aesa national plan kisi ki mukhalfiat k sath ni chla skty ye soch kr k me to power me hun me q bethon band kmry me
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So you think Army chief will sit with everyone and create a system that would be acceptable to all and then Pakistan will get stability and development 😂😂😂
You people don't understand that every army chief has his own view and appoint his own preferred generals in key positions and they make decisions as per their needs and what they can get from USA as monetary benefits.
What Yahaya khan or Zia ul haq used to do is not the same what asim munir is doing.
If asim munir, imran khan and other parties sit down and create a system, Tomorrow another general will come and would violate that system because they consider them the authority in this country.
So you will again have instability and again political chaos.
The solution is NOT sitting with army chief and accepting his demands.
The solution is changing the dynamics of power with deep reforms in the powers of armed forces, judiciary and Parliament.
@@Wanderer975 to ap ka khyal hy k deep reforms ap army cheif ki mrzi k bina kr len gy or vo ho bhi jaye ga? 😁
Shehzad ! I have watched a couple of your podcasts, interesting but today you got a subscriber.
I don’t support PMLN but I respect this guy. Very genuine.
SKA is like 'Papa ki PARI'
as he doesn't need to earn this political space, it was bought by Papa; where he can play the 'idealist/sainthood game'
OR you can say
Halwayi ki dukan pa Nana ji ki Fatyeha
The most honest and sensible man . Shahid Khaqan Abbasi ..❤
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One of the few politicans loved by almost everyone in Pakistan ❤️
he took the most gifts out of toshakhana in his 10 months tenure than any other PM.
@@jubnaahe clarified that listen the podcast
@@ibnebadr367 i did listen to the podcast. he basically said that the law was there and I took advantage of it, change the law if you have a problem. a guy who owns a airline , his sons bought iphones from toshakhana at much lower cost, greedy as fuck. the prices of these gifts are undervalued by the govt itself and the pm then pays 20% of that amount.
Khaqaan Abaasi sahab ap se baraaa munafiq nhi dekha mene ap ko pta hai k ap ghalt kaam kr rhe hain.Lekin phr bhi ap me itni ghairaat or himaat nhi k apne aamaal theek krlain..
Quality sound and good debate on technical issues.
Congrats Ghayas Sahab for bringing Khaqan Abbasi on podcast, looking forward to meet you someday. I really like to watch your podcasts
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Cannot stop watching reversing again and again to listen carefully again and again complex issues and solutions
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Now we can say that Shehzad plays in the big leagues 😊
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Always been
Yes we need desperately this shahid khaqan
I have never heard any podcast with such enthusiasm and Interest as I have this one ❤
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