When Football Clubs Are Owned by Fans | The German 50+1 Rule Explained

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  • čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
  • After the Super League drama, many people realized football needs radical change now, a new system. The most prominent idea here is the German 50+1 Rule. But what exactly is it? What are the positives, what are the negatives? And should we implement it in all of football? I summed it up for you in this video. 💡
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    0:00 What is the 50+1 Rule?
    2:17 Positives of 50+1
    7:31 Negatives of 50+1
    10:25 Do we all need 50+1?
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Komentáře • 90

  • @Fiago
    @Fiago  Před 3 lety +24

    Can anyone tell how many times I said club in this video? 😂

    • @roccocarbone5967
      @roccocarbone5967 Před 3 lety +4

      65 times lmao

    • @santhos9483
      @santhos9483 Před 3 lety +3

      @@roccocarbone5967 69 times

    • @maksik_1204
      @maksik_1204 Před 3 lety +1

      24439849384923849384834932948324823984849384928081810488484928429849284928941

  • @panagiotists2080
    @panagiotists2080 Před 3 lety +46

    It would be so good for the fans to see ex legends as board members

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +5

      Yep 🙌

    • @maksik_1204
      @maksik_1204 Před 3 lety +2

      @@Fiago Not always tho, look at Bayern. Brazzo ruined Flick as a coach and the board who all played at Bayern didn't take his back.

    • @riquelmista745
      @riquelmista745 Před 3 lety +4

      Not everywhere tho, riquelme (boca's greatest legend) is a member of boca juniors' board and is highly criticized by the media and rival fans. It's never the manager's fault, the president fault, errors and criticizing is directed to riquelme

    • @kastriotndoja7524
      @kastriotndoja7524 Před 3 lety +4

      @@maksik_1204 it was a power struggle and flick wasn't interested in it.and i think bayern members didn't interfere because they saw this as a win-win situation.germany gets a top coach and potentialy becomes a top national team again and bayern get a young and promising coach long term.

  • @utkarshbhatnagar9106
    @utkarshbhatnagar9106 Před 2 lety +7

    Amazing video Fiago, I being a Bayern fan never knew so much in details about the 50+1 rule and now I can make sense why the fans protested against Dietmar Hopp in the game against Hoffenheim

  • @chrisfraser5088
    @chrisfraser5088 Před 3 lety +18

    Great explanation, Fiago! Keep up the good work, my friend!

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +2

      Thanks bro!

  • @wjang5458
    @wjang5458 Před 3 lety +13

    this is so good... they really should implement this

  • @derekkatz2875
    @derekkatz2875 Před 3 lety +1

    Awesome channel Fiago :) Just subscribed. I really enjoyed your colab with tactical manager btw

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks for your support Derek :) glad you enjoyed the video

  • @brakechecked5743
    @brakechecked5743 Před 3 lety +10

    Do you know how it works in Portugal? You said it's something similar to the 50+1 rule but not exactly the same thing. Love the videos :)

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +5

      Thanks bro appreciate it! To be completely honest I don‘t know all the details on this Portuguese model, many clubs there are majority fan owned but I‘m not 100% sure if it‘s a requirement!

  • @dustinperez8248
    @dustinperez8248 Před 3 lety +1

    I just found out you have a youtube channel and loving your content! Here from TM TV ;)

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety

      Thanks Dustin appreciate that!!

  • @abhayrathore5953
    @abhayrathore5953 Před 3 lety +1

    Most informative football channel on CZcams

  • @jibugibson
    @jibugibson Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the video, is it a right time for a club to take this at this point of time where it's a 3 year old and currently it's 100% owned by fans

  • @WesterwalderAdler
    @WesterwalderAdler Před měsícem +1

    As an Eintracht Frankfurt fan i would never want to change the system we have here in the Bundesliga.50+1 is a must and should be implemented in the whole of Europe.I would never want an English style where you have this Holywood football,but the football created by the working class people has now became a playground for rich businessman for Arab countries and the USA.The ordinary fan is slowly pushed out of the stadiums and tourists and rich peoples kids are there now.The whole football over there in England is losing it's spirit and because of this the atmospheres in stadiums is just terrible and not even compareble to those in the Bundesliga.Cheers and greetings from Westerwald,Germany.

  • @javibolso
    @javibolso Před rokem

    I’m a member of my team (Nacional from Uruguay) since 15th of September 2004, the day I was born.

  • @nasrullahsylani
    @nasrullahsylani Před 3 lety +1

    Hey Fiago!!

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +1

      Sup Nasrullah 👊

  • @Marco-zy5yv
    @Marco-zy5yv Před 3 lety

    Beautiful shirt you are wearing 🇮🇹😍

  • @basel7897
    @basel7897 Před 3 lety

    Nice

  • @blacklightning7570
    @blacklightning7570 Před 3 lety +6

    Manchester United fans need to protest at every home game until the end of the season. Really need to get the government involved and do something about dem teafing glazers.

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +1

      Yep 🙌

    • @RyanGaming21
      @RyanGaming21 Před 3 lety

      I hope that man united dont lose points because of the protests

  • @ivan2026
    @ivan2026 Před 3 lety +2

    Fiago what do you think of barcas way of running the club

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety

      Better than nothing for sure, but socios don‘t have much power either

  • @mk9650
    @mk9650 Před 3 lety +1

    Fiago laaaaad

  • @kiranbharati4458
    @kiranbharati4458 Před 2 lety

    You know you have mastered german when you pronounce 8:32

  • @wjang5458
    @wjang5458 Před 3 lety +1

    the Bundesliga must control the amount of money charged to the fans so that all the clubs have a certain number of fans. If not, they will not be allowed into the league and will have to try to get new members. This also increases the exposure of football around the world.

  • @Motorvegful
    @Motorvegful Před 3 lety +2

    Also Norway

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety

      Nice 🇳🇴

  • @wjang5458
    @wjang5458 Před 3 lety

    Chelsea protested too

  • @dimsum2014
    @dimsum2014 Před 3 lety +2

    Pog

  • @poisonpotato1
    @poisonpotato1 Před 2 měsíci

    Wouldnt outside investor just need a few fans to agree with them to get a majority vote.
    If its say its 100 fans. They vote and 2 people side with outside invester
    2/100×50%+49.9999% > 50%

  • @ttnnnaa4500
    @ttnnnaa4500 Před 3 lety +2

    €30-60/year to be a member
    *laughs in RedBull*

  • @Hakuna65Matata
    @Hakuna65Matata Před 9 měsíci +4

    We all hate Red Bull

  • @user-vs8oz3go4n
    @user-vs8oz3go4n Před 3 lety +2

    Mate never underestimate the power of € in Germany you say 20€ in nothing
    Well here in Greece people would kill for 20€

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +7

      Of course, but €20 compared to other countries like England is still not much

    • @mk9650
      @mk9650 Před 3 lety +1

      20 ανά ματς

    • @user-vs8oz3go4n
      @user-vs8oz3go4n Před 3 lety

      @@mk9650 θα χα κάνει χαρακίρι 😂

    • @mk9650
      @mk9650 Před 3 lety

      @@user-vs8oz3go4n εδώ μαλακα στην ΑΕΛ βρίζουμε τον Κούγια που το πήγε 15 στη μεγάλη κερκίδα (Όχι την ακριβή την άλλη)

    • @user-vs8oz3go4n
      @user-vs8oz3go4n Před 3 lety

      @@mk9650 φαντάσου 😂

  • @RyanGaming21
    @RyanGaming21 Před 3 lety

    Does Barca follows 50+1 or does it just elect a new president ?

    • @OcEleven
      @OcEleven Před 3 lety

      The socios just elect the members.

  • @paulbailey7747
    @paulbailey7747 Před 3 lety

    It’s not all teams in Germany

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +4

      Watch the whole video first ;)

    • @paulbailey7747
      @paulbailey7747 Před 3 lety

      Does the fans have a say on the players they sign

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +1

      @@paulbailey7747 Not directly, but if the club signs bad players the fans can theoretically call for new elections

  • @OcEleven
    @OcEleven Před 3 lety +1

    Fiago can you make on the rise, fall, rise, fall and rise again of Vfl Wolfsburg. One season they do good, then they are Jack shit.

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety

      Good one

    • @OcEleven
      @OcEleven Před 3 lety +1

      @@Fiago I remember when I started supporting Dortmund, Wolfsburg were a top team with KDB, Naldo, Draxler and many more. Then I dug up more info and I found out that they went from Champions, to almost being relegated in 2010-11, to again being a top team, to again being almost relegated in 17-18, to again being a top team.

  • @user-vs8oz3go4n
    @user-vs8oz3go4n Před 3 lety +2

    50+1 rule can be very tricky it will probably ruin all the transfer drama and if you think about it that's why we don't get many transfer theories for German teams

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +4

      What do you mean ruin all the transfer drama? 50+1 doesn't prohibit transfers lol

    • @user-vs8oz3go4n
      @user-vs8oz3go4n Před 3 lety

      @@Fiago since the investors of the club won't own the club it is sure that they will be more cheap providing less money to the clubs for transfers stadium upgrades and the rest for example Bayern Munich squad consists of players only from the Bundesliga except some of them basically young talents that they can work with and that's why we don't have any transfer drama from there imagine if that happens across all over the world football clubs will transform to football academies trading just young talents what do you think?

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +4

      @@user-vs8oz3go4n I wouldn‘t have any problem with that, football doesn‘t need those ridiculous transfer dramas anyway, still it won‘t mean there won‘t be transfer dramas anymore. Bayern sign players for €80m too.

    • @user-vs8oz3go4n
      @user-vs8oz3go4n Před 3 lety

      @@Fiago I just don't want football to go back to when major part of the team was players from the same country of the league in my opinion if 50+1 has this result it is more of a setback than going forward (what do you think)

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +2

      @@user-vs8oz3go4n It wouldn’t have this effect. Bundesliga has more foreigners than locals

  • @johnobimikel5076
    @johnobimikel5076 Před 3 lety

    100th like🏓🎏🪑

  • @MsRuud55
    @MsRuud55 Před rokem +1

    There are also clubs completely owned by their fans. All decisions are made by the fans. That's the true meaning of fanowned football. The German 50+ 1 rule is a good means to protect the name. shirt etc of the club. At Barcelona the fans can choose the president , usually the guy who promises to buy the best players. That has nothing to do with true fan ownership. Examples of fanowned clubs are AFC Wimbledon, FC United of Manchester , many Scottish clubs, , KSK Beveren and Lyra Lierse in Belgium, Austria Salzburg, HFC Falke in Hamburg , quite some Italian and Eastern European teams. There's a lively fanowned scene in Israel and even across the pond in the States. Not 50 +1 but 100%.

  • @siutadru
    @siutadru Před 3 lety

    206th viewer

  • @patibandlanikhil3101
    @patibandlanikhil3101 Před 3 lety

    How are Spanish teams like Rma,Barcelona and Bilbao owned,is it 50+1 or completely owned by fans?

    • @purushothaman6698
      @purushothaman6698 Před 3 lety +1

      Real Madrid, Barcelona, Athletic Bilbao and Osasuna are owned together by the Socios (members) whereas other clubs are public/private owned

    • @patibandlanikhil3101
      @patibandlanikhil3101 Před 3 lety

      @@purushothaman6698 so they are completely owned by fans(socios) right?

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +4

      Yeah, similar to what the people above said: Barça, Real, Bilbao & Osasuna have the Socio System. Fully owned by their fans, but still those fans have almost no power other than electing the president every few years. During that period the board can pretty much decide it all themselves...so it’s not like 50+1

    • @patibandlanikhil3101
      @patibandlanikhil3101 Před 3 lety

      @@Fiago but I guess they have some power to bring down president as in case of bartomeu before his resignation there was movement to bring him down by collecting signatures

    • @purushothaman6698
      @purushothaman6698 Před 3 lety +6

      @@patibandlanikhil3101 Socio run clubs are complex. Take Real Madrid for example, the Socios are regarded as owners but don't have much say in the decisions except for voting for President (no proper elections due to Perez) and board members (5% of the total Socios) who actually run the club. Also the club's aren't public like the German ones with 50+1 rule and 100% of the club is owned by the clubs. Sounds cool until you realise that shares can't be sold off in case of financial crisis. But at the same time Socio clubs come under the not-for-profit category which means the interest rates on loans are less than those for public clubs.

  • @TrymTheXboxGamer
    @TrymTheXboxGamer Před 3 lety +1

    lol I wouldn't mind pay 30-60€ a year xD hopefully thats 30-60 and not in millions hah

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před 3 lety +1

      It's obviously NOT in millions 😂

    • @TrymTheXboxGamer
      @TrymTheXboxGamer Před 3 lety

      @@Fiago lol sign me up x) "flexes with money" :P well cool it's a nice concept :) I am a Manchester United fan and they struggling with the stubborn owners who only care about themselfs and throws the manager under the bus

  • @phenoixuche2077
    @phenoixuche2077 Před 3 lety +1

    No it's doesn't become equal
    Clubs like man utd who generate massive revenues will be at great advantage
    And other clubs will depend on there scrappy revenue

    • @OcEleven
      @OcEleven Před 3 lety +1

      Mainz are bigger than Union
      Union rose to the 1st division under 50+1. Also, they were challenging for Europe until 2 matchdays ago (there is only 1 left so)

  • @danielogsemen7874
    @danielogsemen7874 Před rokem +1

    Thank god this is not implemented

    • @Fiago
      @Fiago  Před rokem +1

      It should be.

  • @vereehdjj2078
    @vereehdjj2078 Před rokem

    s1htty rule... bayern and this 50+1 rule ruin bundesliga

    • @KoggeAhoi_1965
      @KoggeAhoi_1965 Před rokem +1

      You have no Idea what you talking about.

    • @stefanbrouwer459
      @stefanbrouwer459 Před 11 měsíci +3

      Lol you clearly didnt watch the video then if you dont understand how the 50+1 rule works xD