2024 Subaru BRZ tS Track Review - Properly Tuned by STi?
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- Priced at just over $36K with destination, is the new BRZ tS with its Brembo brakes and Hitachi dampers really worth almost $3K more than a Limited trim BRZ?
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I bought the tS and simply added front camber bolts, DOT 4 brake fluid and HP+ front pads to make an awesome and fun track 'play day' car as well as a practical daily driver. So much more usable than my AP1 S2000 track modified car.
But not reliable
@@z32luvr My BRZ is reliable
Can't wait for this vs. ND3 vs. S2000. These are the choices that I dream up...
S2K is so much more exciting. Not to mention way better looking.
@@z32luvras a owner of an ap2 s2k and driven a nd2 both on coilovers and can say after getting rid of the soft nd2 suspension it’s 95% the experience of a s2k and better in its own right in certain categories.
Recommend you watch Driver’s Paddock video as well
came here to say this
This 👆
Just watched that video. Such a great in depth analysis. Subbed.
These cars are supple but firm in the way they ride, they are great fun, love the Michelin Pilots.
While I haven't had the chance to take mine (GR86 Trueno Edition) to the track, I can tell you that the extra 4-5k CAD over the previous top trim is well worth it IF you plan to keep the car relatively stock. The Brembos have amazing braking feel and the red interior feels special enough. I don't mind the Eyesight system as it doesn't interfere with steering.
I believe it’s actually only $2500 over the the limited , from what I’ve read elsewhere. It’s 5 k above the premium, which is the entry level of the BRZ
i kept waiting for the motor to let go during the long righthand sweeper lol
Lucky you’re too poor to own one.
@@J_S209 lol.. like you can afford an s209. Gr86/BRZ is a compromise car to me.. i dont make compromises anymore with cars. I've got an ND miata and a Fiesta ST.. The Miata is a more pure experience.. shorter wheelbase makes it even more agile and 'manic' feeling
@@J_S209 and I've owned a Type RA as well ;) (#415)
@@dre32pitt It's not a GT3 - of course it will have some compromises
@@mettaxam it's a fixable issue that the manufacturer should address. Last I checked, a Miata isn't a GT3 either, yet was designed by Mazda to hold up to 1.2g's of constant track use
Thanks for the review.
I like the tS, but if they had included the STi dry carbon wing this would have been a bit more special like the old 2018 tS.
I don't disagree! A little extra visual flair would make the tS stand out that much more.
Excellent job on this video. Thank you
I love the ts. In this color I think its better looking than the GR86, which is hard to believe. Love the interior stripe too and gold brakes.
Do these engines sound better with a good exhaust?
waiting for the comparison!!!! please include lap times if possible
It was only a canyon comparison, but I still got the opportunity to dive deep into the driving dynamics differences between tS, ND3, and AP2
With any Miata ND 1,2, or 3 if you are going to track it you have to do suspension at the minimum. With the TS there is less you have to do now. Another advantage that any BRZ has over the Miata is its mid-range torque. Finally, as a daily the BRZ will always have it over a Miata as well as a more comfortable trip cruiser. That said it clear from reviews that the ND 3 has now better steering, a smoother engine and it's a convertible. I just don't like its "rolly polly" body roll. I used to own an Alfa GTV6. Fabulous engine note, great styling but in stock form it had a lot of body roll. I had to stiffen it up and lower it. The result was it ruined the ride. I don't know if a base Miata comes with a limited slip. But if a Club is $33 grand starting off and then you have to add 4K for the Brembo brake package you still have to do suspension. The TS seems a like quite the bargain in those terms.
Any BRZ? the first gen has a massive hole in the mid range unless you tune it.
Honestly Miata is still more fun but less practical, I own a gr86 btw.
Gr86 needs front camber bolt etc, the limit is alignment capability is a let down. You don’t need suspension for track use for the mx5 either, the new models with KPC just run a set of roll bars then you are good
Biggest problem with BRZ is still engine/transmission. One day go test drive both on the same day several miles you’ll immediately be like ohhhh. Suspension is a easy fix engine/transmission isn’t simple as that
@@jonboy602 I'm talking about my 2022 BRZ Limited. I know about gen 1 and the torque dip.
@@FATmenDRIVEtrucks I don't see that real a problem with gen 2 transmission. On the engine front perhaps if you find the right sound intake and disconnected the electric speaker(which I did), you can find a little bit better noise. An axleback also helps.
Nuce review! Does that Eyesight stuff hinder performance or track driving in any way?
Not that I've found.
Beautiful car / spec
I just finished breaking one of these in. 872 miles. Really all it’s missing is rev match. That would make it an incredible easy daily. Rev matching around town is hit or miss at low rpm. Its easy to get it right if you in higher revs. I feel it would be amazing quicker car around town with that feature. To me that is the only thing i would change and maybe wishbone suspension up front.
they rev match just fine around town. give yourself some more time with it. i can easily blip from 6th all the way down to 2nd and even first if necessary. i found that the throttle mapping seemed to settle down after about 1300 miles.
@@Cichlid_Visuals it definitely makes a difference with the shoes i am wearing at the time. With sneakers i dont get it right every time but with those barefoot shoes i wear i can do it no problem. It probably is because of break in the car is driving way differently now that i can rev it out more. And i changed the oil with motul 5w30 runs smooth now. Finally red lined it and shifts at high revs are amazing and the rev match downs above 4rpm are easy. No complaints just wish it had that feature i feel the car would be perfect with rev match for when i am wearing dress shoes or big sneakers or boots in winter.
Oh 100% shoes are critical. I keep a set of driving shoes in the trunk and swap if I'm going to be wearing boots or bulky sneaks. Yea the car starts to drive quite differently after the ECU and throttle mapping have totally learned, mine has become way more responsive to small blips on the throttle.
I'd be interested to know how this compares to the GR86's $1500 performance pack (Brembo Brakes, SACHS dampers.) Is this functionally the same package, but with the added STI aesthetic add-ons and interior accents?
I'm very curious about this too. Haven't driven a GR86 performance package yet
I have a 2024 GR86 with the performance package. It drives smoother than when I had my 2023 BRZ. Throttle mapping is different. A bit easier to drive smoother. Break-in period is still in the works but hopefully I’ll get some track and autocross in eventually.
Sorry bro. I disagree this time. This BRZ ts model just ain't special enough to justify the $$price tag. It also lives in the shadows of the previous Gen.1 2018 BRZ ts .subaru did try making somthing special there. This new BRZ ts is just a lazy product from Subaru. Just my opinion of course.
Great Content as always!😎
Have you driven a gen2 BRZ? Way more torque and no dip. But if you want decent brakes your over $2500. Another $500 for springs. I'd rather have a factory engineered system than aftermarket.
Check out Drivers Paddock's review on this car! Maybe you will change your mind 😉
@@user-vz9tz3wg4s I found the Gen 2 much softer that a Gen 1, but the extra power was much appreciated. Was a fun car while I had it though.
Just finished the video. This offering is definitely better price wise than the Gen 1. I would say it's worth it if you're going to track your car.
You are right it is a lazy product from Subaru that they probably had to spend like 10 men hours at best to create but fortunately the pricing over the limited it worth it since it will cost you more to do it on your own and it’s always nicer to have those upgrades from factory.
So overall the product might be a little disappointing (especially aesthetically compared to the limited, like c’mon Subaru) but it’s still a good value and a recommended upgrade over the limited trim.
They really should have just made it a performance package like the GR86, but its still pretty decent value as a OEM installed big brake kit.
For an engine that suffers from oil starvation issues, it’s interesting to see that they’re still being promoted on the track. How many engines are REALLY going poof? 💨 And what happens to press cars once they’re done touring and being passed around? Are they scrapped?
The last time I felt the TS differences..it was too late
I really would like one of these, but the oil pressure drops even on street tires seem concerning. Last thing I want to do is have to worry about blowing the motor on a new car.
I think u can just run a bit more oil in it
@@churchofbrap876 yup 1L overfill helps alot
You are never good enough driver to drive a stock BRZ on stock tires to that point. Trust me. Complete stock in this form doesn’t result in any issue.
Revolution still runs the FA24 on their time attack GR86 as well
Recent data points to this being less of an issue for stock or mildly modified cars than previously thought. And there are promising aftermarket developments to mostly solve the problem. Check out @900BRZ channel
@@30hours51totally agreed, so many people put off by this potential issue without realizing most of us don't even have the skill level or balls to replicate those conditions.
Stop complaining lucky these cars exist at all
Imagine meat riding a company so bad you act like you’re lucky to spend your own money to buy their product.
Put down the keyboard lil bro
whos complaining ?
@@vitoconigliaro7926I think he means we should be lucky that these cars get made at all.
I would pay extra to not have that POS Subaru Eyesight system. It's everything that's wrong with modern cars.
Yeah? Rip out the seat belts, airbags, decent brakes, radial tyres, crumple zones, abs etc etc while you’re at it. 🤣
@@J_S209 with your reasoning ability, Eyesight is perfect for you.
Nice car but unaffordable to the average middle class working person, cost of insurance added in also.
This platform is the definition of a cope car.
What do you mean?
Yes, we're coping with not being able to afford a Porsche
@@sl0907 Porsche is shit when it comes to reliability vs Toyota, we are coping very very well!!!
You spelled dope wrong 😂
@@yume8380but it’s not a true Toyota. It’s a Subaru.
eyesight is not a feature i would say is good to mention as a plus over the miata lol. i bought my late 23 production BRZ specifically to avoid it.
Eye Sight is a fantastic feature!
If you're braindead.
@@J_S209 if you're braindead maybe.
Why you tried to avoid it so much? I don’t like those aids as well but you can easily disable it no?
@@Gurka84 not as easily as the 22-23. those are single button press defeat, and thats just traction control. the collision prevention crap in the 24+ requires an extra step.