Subaru WRX TR vs GR Corolla | No Comparison
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- Get ready for a comparison test between the 2024 Toyota GR Corolla and Subaru WRX TR. We will run them on a dyno, set lap times on the exact-spec Bridgestone Potenza Race tire, discuss the technical and engineering aspects, and then discuss the good and the bad. Others to consider are the Elantra N, Honda Civic Type R, Acura Integra, and Golf R.
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Index:
00:00 Intro and Drag Race
00:35 What the Cars Are
1:00 Interior, Exterior, and Audio Tests, GR Corolla
3:02 You Could Be a Winner, Too
4:41 Interior, Exterior, and Audio Tests, WRX TR
6:25 The Mechanicals and Spec Tires Bridgestone Potenza Race
8:15 Gr Corolla Mechanicals and Weight
10:39 Subaru Mechanical Impressions and Weight
11:39 Dyno Results, Limit Plus 1
14:56 Driving Impressions, GR Corolla
18:49 Driving Impressions, Subaru WRX TR
23:08 Lap Time Discussions
23:40 Leaderboard May 2024
27:51 Thank You, and Final Thoughts - Auta a dopravní prostředky
Came for the car comparo, stayed for the TuxMat interlude
I saw this comment and was like okay whatever. But oh my god😭
Truly the best sponsorship spot I've ever seen.
When Frank Sinatra comes back from the dead to drop a single about TuxMats, it’s serious
TuxMats, yay, but now I gotta go to Arby’s for lunch.
One of the few channels where I don't skip the ad
Savagegeese is now what Car & Driver used to be, back when Car & Driver was a good rag that did independent testing and excellent writing. Well done, gents, very well done.
My dad subscribed to both Car & and Driver and Road & Track since I was a kid in the 80s. It didn’t take long for me to figure out that everything in them was advertising.
I've read Car & Driver since the 80's. They are not as good as you make it out.
I should have been more specific. I was referring to C&D in the 60s and 70s, when nearly every road test ended with a wrecked car, a drunken dinner, or an angry manufacturer’s rep. And most of the writing was top shelf.
@@Sashazur Was that a TuxMat shot? I don't know, I'm asking. Generally, the car mags are pushing what's new. The new one wins the comparo and then loses out to the "regular cast" for 10Best. I could write the script.
...Back in my day Jack would keep his homosexuality to himself 😢
Subaru should offer a carbon fiber vape pen holder.
Haha, Subaru got the vape bros, Mustang got the crowd killer bros, Dodge Charger and Challenger got the takeover, robber and thieves bros!!!!!
Subaru should come with a rainbow flag and an aarp card
HAHAHAHA
And carbon fibre oil drip tray.
Would be pointless here in Aus. Vapes are banned here.
I realy hope TuxMats realizes how valuable your advertising exposure is. Your guy's are genius.
Please tell them to release a manual version for the wrx. Their 2022+ wrx mats interfere with the clutch massively, it’s really disappointing. Had to return mine and go with weathertechs.
@@dewjustin all of their mats interfere with the clutch. they say it only bothers some, but it was too distracting for me. thankfully their return policy is great.
@@dewjustin I have a '22 WRX 6mt, and I love my tuxmats! Weathertech is garbage in comparison.
@@steve8803 have fun with the squeaking and squishing of the mat every time you clutch in bud, what a nightmare.
@@dewjustinfunny I had a similar problem with my 2023 civic sport 6MT. The mats came with a bunch of plastic+Velcro clips that I used to better secure the mat, and I got it so the clutch pedal didn't rub at all. I might have gotten lucky but yeah, had to fiddle with the driver side mat a bit to get it how I wanted. It's been installed for several months now, no issues with rubbing.
That's a lotta beef and cheddar.
It's not that much tbh
That’s what he said.
That’s why everything in America is getting bigger.
@@Anhedonis one v8 sports car in 2024..
That cheese looks horrendous.
I ended up purchasing a WRX recently and even at the premium trim I don't know what car you can get an awd, turbo, 6 speed for under $35k. I paid $32.5k out the door for mine two months ago. I had my eye on a GR Corolla for a few months but the dealers wanted more than I was willing to pay. I am really happy with my WRX but I think they both seem like great cars overall.
It's an absolute steal. Have a 23 premium. Paid around 34.5k, but They weren't offering the deals a year ago that they are today. Absolutely love the car at 10k miles. Had a mishimoto catch can on it for 7k miles, but noticed oil consumption in the colder months. Took it off and the consumption went away. Definitely not worth the trouble if you live anywhere where it gets below freezing. Have heard better things about the IAG AOS, but am just going to leave it stock.
I still have my 04 WRX wagon, coming up on 21 years and 160k miles. Stage 2 tune and still lots of fun. Put winter tires on and she is a blast in snow. Have not had a payment in 17 years. What a great car. Yeas interior sucks compared to now a days. My daily is a 16BRZ.
Same man. I got a 23' base WRX for 28.5 OTD and it blows away anything in its class in terms of value for the dollar. The GRC looks awesome but its almost 10K more than my car and I dont think its worth that
Mazda 3?
@@ragebait988 Mazda 3 with AWD isn't available in 6 speed, at least according to their builder. That spec also starts at 37.5.
Here’s the rub: I can actually get a WRX TR while GRC is either unavailable or still with silly ADM.
Go to Illinois, they can't sell any of them for under msrp there
Tons of GRCs at MSRP around now.
in PA I cant get either without an ADM.
@@KeithSchwerin Classic PA
@@zadekharbatGRC for under MSRP? Packing my bags and making the trip right now
Since I installed TuxMats in my vehicle, my T levels have increased by 50%. Thanks Mark!
This is more or less exactly what Top Gear back in the 2000's said about the WRX vs the Evo, saying exactly what you're saying about the WRX about the WRX, and exactly what you're saying about the GR Corolla about the Evo
20 years later and the WRX still exists. It has a good formula.
To this day I can remember Clarkson summary. The Evo is better in every performative way but on the drive home. He finds himself more drawn to the subaru. Best single sentence summary now almost what? 20 years old?
yeah but the Evo is still running with no issues after 20 yrs and the Subaru is on its 3rd motor so yeah.@@ZackNakazora1
Well, with mods the Subaru will be better. They tuned a WRX to same HP as GR and it smoked the GR. Could be a little bit of driver.
@@In.da.pot.that.some_wap both are ugly though can't fix that so easily🙄
Whatever TuxMats paid for that ad, it wasn’t enough.
This is a true cinematic masterpiece
Just wanted to mention that Bridgestone makes the best rubber on market.
@@WhiteLivesMatterPL No, that's Michelin's crown for sure.
@@EvoraGT430 The worst brand for motorcycles. I recommend michelin only to polish people.
First day on the internet?
The geese taking flight as Mark reprised the Jimmy Page psychodelic sunglasses by the lake scene from The Song Remains the Same movie was just brutally clever.
Just wanted to thank you guys for the awesome videos. Keep up the amazing work!
This is a comparison I had in my head for a practical daily for my BRZ. Awesome timing! Omg the Tuxmat placement rocks!
My GR Corolla is a great daily for my turbo FRS. Highly recommend it
I daily my frs lolll
@@de5pa1r34 I daily the BRZ and love it. But now I live in the mountains and have a 35 mile commute.
@@de5pa1r34 kinda miss dailying the FRS, but I see clients now and I can't be driving a loud and smelly car 😂
You guys have quickly become one of my favorite CZcams pages! Appreciate all you do!
the ad alone should be emmy nominated for best acting and cinematography 😭😭
And please do know that we appreciate and value the quality you bring and the time you invest on this.
Got a laugh out of Mark having to stop himself from saying “a more luxurious experience” when comparing interiors
Subaru with their whole "Hatchbacks don't sell so we won't make a hatchback WRX" is complete and utter bullshit. Every single car they sell other than the BRZ and Legacy (which is being discontinued this year) is a hatchback. Subaru needs to give the people what they want. The Impreza RS body with the WRX drivetrain.
Flat out facts
I daily drive a 2006 STi, absolutely would finance a new RS with WRX guts! Been years without a car payment but I'd love them to do a proper RS, they would sell vs the "wrx"
On top of that, they brought the wrx sportswagon to mexico this month but not the US
EXACTLY. If hatches/wagons suck so much then how the hell is the Crosstrek/Outback one of the best selling models for YEARS now? They're honestly delusional and lost the spark. Arguably it all went downhill after 2008 and post 2013/14 was the real nail in the coffin IMO.
I'm glad it's not a hatchback
Thanks for this comparison match up. I always check your reviews before purchasing because you guys are no BS straight shooters. Luckily for us you add humor especially for advertising. The Tuxmats was truly a gem with the song! Thanks Savagegeese!
O'Neil rally school up in NH just bought a new WRX and has been posting videos of them tearing up courses. It looks absurdly capable straight out of the box. Funnnn.
yup, holds the fastest time of everything they've tested by 3 seconds.
@@Natedoc808almost makes the screeching from the "hard core" subie boys seem needless lol subaru knows what they are doing. Much to our jargon
@@ZackNakazora1 never understood the screeching. I love my new WRX, and still love my 02 big eye wagon, but very different machines and loved for different reasons
@@ZackNakazora1most of the screeching is about the exterior, because it looks gross as hell
@@Natedoc808 they haven't really tested anything else capable to rally. Seems like they mostly choose things that would be terrible at rallying, and try them through the course. Which is more entertaining in my opinion
I really appreciate the level of technical detail in this report. You guys just seem to get better and better.
This video was excellent. You guys have consistently upped your quality and content. I look forward to each video and look forward to the future with the savage cobra chickens
OMFG!?! Skip the ad?? Nah let him cook!!
I had a 16 wrx that i bought new and owned for over 6 years, it was the best car I've ever owned. Had it stage 2 bolt ons with an off the shelf tune, while it wasn't the fastest thing ( couldn't ever take any Infiniti g35/g37 or nissan maxima) it was definately plenty to get you into trouble. Tire setup were pilot sports 4s in the summer and it felt like it was on rails, i never reached the grip limit, and x-ice in the midwest winters and the thing was an absolute tank. After 6 years of ownership it only depreciated $16,000, only mechanical problem i had was the throw out bearing in the clutch fork sticking, had to have 2 clutch replacements under 30k mi. Even though i had been driving manuals for over 10 years. As for practicality one Thanksgiving i placed 4 8' tables and 20 folding chairs in it. The car did everything well, it had personality, it turned into a living thing, the wrx is a truely special car, i genuinely miss it.
Thanks Mark and Jack and team for the awesome content.
You bring a tear to me eye. Well said....it really is a very special car.
How the fuck was it slower than a maxima? They’re not even fast, my brother has one. Lol
A '16 stage 2 wrx with bolt ons would put bus lengths on the cars you mentioned.... My fbo is making 420whp, and that's only because I'm trying to save the trans and clutch...
Had a 2017 premium and lemon lawed it due to the throw out bearing, every cold start would cause the car to squel when pressing and depressing the clutch. Such a shame as I loved the damn car.
@@ColeWorldNoSandwichI have a 2019 and it's on its third throwout bearing. Total crap. Damn I want a GRC so badly.
That Tuxmat commercial was pure gold.
I own a 2022 Limited WRX with the 6-speed manual. As a car enthusiast who’s gotten used to modifying, tracking, selling, rinse-and-repeating, I find it extremely difficult finding something to replace this pedestrian rally car with. The car I really wanted initially (Type R) has a massive price delta (even at MSRP), and the GR Corolla just didn’t do it for me when I sat in one.
Aside from the road noise on the highway, the interior is pretty nice (Limited model helps a bit) and nothing comes close for value-for-dollar as a performance/practicality blend vehicle. The driver controls are all intuitive, and although I absolutely HATE the infotainment screen, it plays music better than any of my old Japanese tin cans.
All in all, it’s a great buy for most folks. I’ve owned and driven quite a few cars for my age, so I may have different expectations and demands from a do-it-all type of car. I still think I’d be happier in a Type R, but I also find it difficult throwing the additional 20k-or-so after taxes to make the switch. The BRZ is also another compelling option, albeit much smaller (less “do-it-all” for potentially more smiles per mile).
Thanks for reading my monologue. 😅 Love what the geese put out, as always. 🪿
Enjoy it, I have a 2023 RS3 with APR catback
This platform was never rallied by Subaru so technically its not a "rally" platform. Does have the heritage though where the Toyota doesn't. Though Toyota did Rally the Celica in the 80's and the Yaris of recent years, still not the same. The Corolla Hatch is also one of the ugliest cars on the road.
@@eppyzToyota ran a rally prepped version of the E110 Corolla for Group A in the late 90s. As well as the early 80s RWD Corollas ran in group A and N by drivers like Per Eklund.
dude your monologue inspired me
@@eppyz "The Corolla hatch is also one of the ugliest cars on the road." I don't want to know what you think the best looking car on the road is, then, because it's probably a Nissan Juke or a Buick Encore.
Thank you guys for making these videos! The TuxMat ad was priceless ❣️
Great video! Excellent tuxmat ad placement!
This reminds me of the Evo vs STi comparison of the 2003-2006 timeframe where one was more brutish, and one more edgy.
I keep hearing ppl compare the GRC to the STi hatch, but the hatch is really where the comparison stops. It delivers powers more like the EVO and I love it!
Having owned both an 05 STi and and 06 EVO 9 I traded the STi for the EVO and one was more a hatchet and the other more a scalpel in the way it delivered power and handling.
Can't believe Subaru has never offered the WRX in green .
Google '1999 Green wrx'.
Edit: It was called Acadia Green Pearl Metallic
Ima be wrapping mine green soon lol
@@MrRumcup That's pretty cool, never offered in the US.
Green has usually been reserved for more intelligent car owners.
@@MrRumcup in the USA we got the 1998 2.5RS (WRX body kit with 2.5L ~160hp naturally aspirated engine) in Acadia Green. They are the unicorns, the rarest of all 2.5RS by an order of magnitude.
(Our first WRX showed up as the 2002 model year).
Mark's product placements are simply best in the industry. Turning something I would normally skip into a funny intermission. Keep up the good stuff.
This video has incredible production quality. I loved your old videos but these new videos are next level. Big props to you guys.
You guys easily do the best comparisons. Greatly appreciated. Keep up the amazing work!
The musical was transcending 🤌
Gotta love a cover of Supermode's Tell Me Why!
31 minutes of not comparing… nice.
Seriously nice reviews for both of these souped up imports.
That was a very detailed review of both cars really enjoyed the video. I feel like neither has an edge over the other and just come down to what kinda driving experience you, the driver, are looking for. Subbed!!
Awesome video, as always. I especially like that I have driven these cars and know people who own them, and they are within reach. It's fun to see "exotics" tested but really appreciate the more affordable cars being tested as well.
The Tuxmat portion was brilliant, lol!
Your branded digital content Tuxmat ad was legitimately so well produced I didn't skip. Congrats on expanding the business tastefully. Appreciate ya
This is probably one of the best production video I've seen. I mean, the Hagerty videos with Jason Cammisa are astonishing but review wise, you guys are the best out there.
That tux mats promo is the first time in my life I've ever thrown up from a CZcams video. Impressive. Truly breathtaking...
Excellent comparison of the cars. I watched the entire video and even the ad which was so intriguing. Thanks.
Watching one of the your videos for the first in a long time and coming across this TuxMat and Arby's commercial is hilarious.
Only SG can make embedded sponsor plugs as entertaining as the rest of the video. Brilliant!
Good job mr multiple 🪿! As always, greetings from Gura Ocnitei, Romania!
Great comparison. I really appreciate how you guys focused on what's most important for cars, which is performance and comfort. So many other "youtubers" *ahem car salesmen* drone on and on about small insignificants such as the infotainment, LED lights, how nice the dashboard feels. How many people stroke their dashboards on a daily basis or really care what technology produces their turn signals? You guys do mention those things but in such a non-intrusive way, just the way it should be.
One thing that surprised me is how little power the GR Corolla made. On paper, it should blow the WRX away with 300hp but on the dyno it proved otherwise. Very interesting. Makes me wonder what the Civic type R would make on the same dyno.
Well it is faster to 60 by .5 to a full second based on testing. Also faster in the 1/4 mile by .5 a second. It’s mostly down to weight and power delivery.
I'd really like to see a video comparing the GR Corolla and the GR Yaris! If that's something you can make happen I'd be so stoked!
I love my 2022 wrx. Great video. I suggest test driving both of them. Heads up seeing a VB in person is much different than pictures or videos
Thank you for keeping the tires consistent! Been much needed in car testing.
Without question, the best infomercial I've ever experienced for any brand. You made me cry. That was incredible!
I actually took a gamble on the potenza race before any reviews came out and I love them. (2022 Veloster N)
That was the first time I haven’t skipped an in-video advert. Nicely done
Awesome video and analysis by Jack and Mark. I ordered tux mats for my wife for mothers day because they support you.
Still having a blast with my GRC. Everything functions great, I love the engine, surprisingly good handling, decent stick, and perfect size for my needs.
That Tuxmat ad was awesome! Love this channel.
I like that you had professional driver test the cars and give his thoughts. That was the best part of the video.
Good day when I wake up to a new SG GRC video. Hope you keep doing the ownership series. One video in a year so far keeping us hungry.
The WRX hatch didn't sell well?! It was over 50% of WRX sales, and now 100% of Impreza sales
It's not on an Impreza platform
About a month ago you dish out the Aprils Fools thing... and now we have this Tux mat ad.
Excellent work. Appreciate the length you go to for these bits.
OK, that TuxMats ad exceeded expectations even after I saw the comments. Well done!
These boys and redline reviews I find the best at reviews, straight to the point no fussing around, and straight to the point, honest opinion. If you want some entertainment then throttle house but these boys are number one followed by redline. Excellent video once again, well done
I can't wait to pick up my VB this year. This just confirms I can still have a fun, affordable car that the wife and kids can hop into.
Dad of 3 checking in here - we love our 24 TR. fits the entire family if needed, my bike in the trunk with seats back etc. You won’t be disappointed
@sasquachjl1228 thanks for the heads up and glad to hear you're enjoying it.
@@gp.5989Just got my premium for 31k a few days ago. They had 2 24s and 2 23s. Went with the 23 just because of the incentive, can’t beat 1.9 apr and 31k
4:50
The green house, there’s so much more glass. The visibility is incredible, it feels like an older car.
Yeah, that really kicks me in the feels. One thing I miss about older cars is amount of light and space given to occupants. Modern cars, by a combination of safety features like side curtain airbags, side crash structures, are inherently darker spaces by design. Modern car designers make this worse by generally picking a dark interior palette. Net result is feeling like you’re sitting in a tiny cave.
Yes well said I agree. Especially the back seats.
The big windows is definitely something that the Subaru designers got right! I'm really hoping we see a general move in the industry towards larger windows.
@@bradcomis1066you won't, high belt lines and low rooflines will make windows seem smaller. Thick pillars are safety bonuses and full curtain airbags beef them up further.
@@Hawk7886 Sad, all the safety nannies got their way and drivers have less fun for it
@@mikeydude750 yeah those nannies that hate seeing their loved ones killed in accidents, weird. People with families tend to have their car purchases influenced primarily by safety ratings, and the tests that develop the ratings are constantly getting harder. It wouldn't be such a huge problem if cars were reasonably sized, but there are so many massive trucks and SUVs running around the old style sedan needs to be a tank to survive a collision.
Legitimately the best mid-video advertisement I’ve ever seen 😂
Will be looking at Tuxmats for my ‘25 Camry now lmao
Seriously…that Tuxxmats ad was awesome and I will buy from them because of it. Done.
That Tuxmat commercial was Old Spice levels of hilarious
"two pounds of beef and cheddar"
Well my day is made
Thank you for the fantastic quality content and honest opinions. Truly a rare find in this ever growing tech landscape dominanted by marketing culture.
The most creative way to plug sponsors I've ever seen. Bar none. So funny!
So the corrrola claims 300bhp and the wrx claims 271 bhp. The dyno says differently.
That’s the engine hp, dynos test how much is actually being delivered to the wheels
@RiptideOnTop I'm pretty sure he knows that therefore he said bhp, what he's trying to convey is Toyota is either over inflating their numbers or Subaru is underrating theirs, something ain't adding up.
Dyno graphs are available online and they confirm the manufacturer claimed power figures for both to be accurate.
Yaris GRMN would smoke all of these... You guys need to see what Rally drivers have been doing with the 2024 Yaris, they have been pulling off some really CRAZY times and even setting some new world record times for a lot of stages... It's crazy how that little shitbox performs in WRC!
Thank you for providing some of the best automotive content on a platform where I can watch it for free. Props
Love this channel content keep it up!
Someone nominate this distinguished, esteemed gentlemen for a Grammy, please
8:45 correction here, the WRX is 50:50 split with a viscous coupling with the manual gearbox. The automatic has a slightly more rear-bias split. The old CVT had a 45/55 split, but they may changed it a bit. It's still rear bias.
Was that for the VB? I remember the VAs being 45/55 for the MT and 40/60 for the CVT.
Funny how that rear bias works when tested 24:50
60/40 cvt
45/55 cvt with rear bias. However the GT has VTD variable torque distribution. So it can send more to the rear , more than 55%
Yaris GRMN would smoke all of these... You guys need to see what Rally drivers have been doing with the 2024 Yaris, they have been pulling off some really CRAZY times and even setting some new world record times for a lot of stages... It's crazy how that little shitbox performs in WRC!
You guys really do pick bangers for your music in your videos. Oh the comparison is ok too I guess ;)
Very good video! I'm hoping I can catch one of these cars on Turo to try one day. Definitely interested in that Corolla inline 3 cylinder!
I ordered two sets of tux mats after watching. One set for my GRC. One set for wife to use as a diaper changing mat. . .Happy Mother’s Day!
Best mats on the market…….
Quite the difference from the Beef N Cheddar's Mark was wolfing down. 1st time I've heard of Tux Mats because WeatherTechs were always my go to.
Got some tuxmats for my 02 S2000 thanks to yall. Sadly, there are zero solutions to replace the OEM carpet.
Thank you TuxMat! You've reunited we with my estranged father.
This is the Arby's beef montage / auto review mashup I've been waiting my whole entire life for.
It only took Subaru 20 years to figure out proper tuning. Great review as usual
In this comparison, it all comes down to which car has the TuxMats.
Your commercial transition was epic!
If everyone made in-video sponsor like you guys do, I’d never fast-forward through them. That. Was. Hilarious! And also makes me want to get TuxMats for my X3!
That Tuxmat segment was truly an immersive experience!
TuxMats are officially the DBrand from the car world! Every channel has a funny skit for them!
Hahahaha this is the guy you want to sponsor. That tuxmat interlude was freakin hilarious and awesome.
These reviews are much better than anyone else out there. The dyno comparison is so good. Thanks!
god damn that green corolla looks amazing
IIRC, it's a wrap.
@@billiam247 it still looks good what’s your point
@@Toyota4Life never said it didn't look good. If someone didn't know that's not a factory color they'd be very disappointed if they were ready to stroll into their local Toyota dealership looking for a green GR Corolla.
What's your point, jagoff?
Keep going you two 😂
About the only positive it seems to these guys
Honestly, that tuxmat ad was an A+ transition
Nothing to add. Thanks for being awesome and sharing your fun.
Another great video from the Savagegeese duo, always value your thoughts, opinions, feelings and feedback even though i can't get most of the cars you guys have. I'd be interested in your thoughts' on a BMW F40 128ti (fwd) or M135i x-drive if you can get one over there as i feel you guys like similarly to me (though with greater experience), the model range in the UK is often quite different than the US - but the same issue here is that there are less & less smaller cars and more SUV/Crossover vehicles despite not having as much road space as the US :(
OMG. Only Savagegeese does an embedded commercial even better than the program.
The savagegeese leader board is very impressive 👏
Excellent. Happy to support!
I would love to see the Tuxmats reaction to this. Great video.
So it’s hard to want either of these. I’m glad I have an MX-5. I just want another 50hp.
50 hp without more tires, suspension and break tuning will just lead to spoiled balance on such a fine car as mx5 is…
@@David_Journey out of the box the MX-5 needs help. It was dancing around on the highway with a poor stock alignment and the body roll was comical. I’ve already put a new set of springs, lowered it a couple inches, added adjustable dampers on it, and changed the alignment to a tighter response. It does really beg for just a bit more mid-range torque. The brakes are great after some different pads and fluid. No big break kit is needed unless you track it. Tires on a car like this are already very good. Perhaps going an inch wider is all you really need. People supercharge the engine all the time and don’t have to make major modifications. I just think it just needs about 230hp and it would be in the sweet spot any more and it’s overpowered.
@@AmericanDuck that body roll is welcome on real world back roads with potholes and imperfection. It is a perfect daily driver
@@David_Journey yes I already know how it drove stock. I own the car. I live in San Diego and it’s full of canyon back roads and sketchy surfaces. I daily my car and do runs with my Miata club. So it lives a full life. I’m telling you now that in stock form it needs some minor adjustments to make it better. That body roll is scary in some corners and the shocks are way too soft. You can pitch the car into oversteer very easily on a double S curve. The car is under sprung. If you don’t drive on very curvy roads and drive on well maintained roads like at less than 50% then stock is a peach, except on the highway. Stock alignment provides an unsteady amount of play in the wheel and it tends to feel a bit darty above 60mph. Especially concrete freeway. If you drive with any kind of spirit, then you need it more focused. It only took about $2k installed to make it drive so much better and there is zero body roll. It’s like a go-cart and it soaks up bumpy pavement much better with some quality dampers like the Konis I have installed that only takes a few moments to set from racing to smooth before you go driving. In stock form, the body roll is there so you get the feeling of speed without actually going fast. I guess we will call it personal preference. I do guarantee that with equal tires I will outpace any stock Miata and feel less stress doing it. Now that extra HP I’m asking for would be great with a club edition and some actual stiffer springs.
Arby's marketing team needs to give you a call.
Tuxmat ad is beyond epic!
I have the TuxMats in my Mazda3 Turbo, I love them. I returned my Huskey mats because the TuxMats just cover sooooo much more floor space. They're great.
Considering the dyno numbers, Subaru is basically marketing the whp for the WRX?? That's interesting.
Not at all. Pretty sure they showed the wrx crank hp. Plenty of other dyno runs online show 210-220 wheel hp on the wrx/wrx tr (same engine and trans either way) wrx can't even beat a fwd Elantra N off the line and I've beat plenty with an elantra N. But I couldn't beat a gr corolla for shit. Only time I was able to win against one was at the drag strip with radials.
@@ViaticalGenie4 How come the GRC's was much lower then? With it being 300 hp on paper the 262 made sense to the wheel.
@@ViaticalGenie4Elantra N is underated from the factory and is 100 lbs lighter than the lightest WRX trim. Its no surprise its quicker. Then again, you have to factor in price difference. I got my 23' base WRX for $28,500 OTD while the EN would realistically be around 35-37K OTD (state dependant)
@alamsas2 yes that does. I'm pretty sure these guys are biased. The whole time they were acting like subarus are impressive. They're horrible. I've owned a few and the only time I enjoyed them was in the snow. Track days were garbage. Upgraded brakes and coilovers helped but I'd rather drive a truck around a track.
@@ViaticalGenie4 Elantra N could be a better track car, just hope it's not your daily, because the dealer service sucks so bad, you won't get it back for weeks. They never offer a rental either.