New 2024 Moto Guzzi 457 Retro Spied: Everything You Need To Know!

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  • čas přidán 8. 09. 2024

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  • @robertlindstrom540
    @robertlindstrom540 Před 7 měsíci +26

    They are experimenting by the looks of it, at this stage. The end product will propably look entirely different and the badging remains to be seen. This sub 500 segment has suddenly become very competitive. Now most of the major brands have something to offer.

    • @rleerm
      @rleerm Před 7 měsíci +2

      Indeed, why assume it will be a retro? Could just as well be an atypical naked

  • @andrewdyson4255
    @andrewdyson4255 Před 7 měsíci +68

    Just No, Guzzi do what you do. Don’t re badge an Aprillia

    • @Big_Tyrone138
      @Big_Tyrone138 Před 7 měsíci +2

      It's a good idea to add some variety to all bike types and CC ranges.

    • @andrewdyson4255
      @andrewdyson4255 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@Big_Tyrone138 totally agree so Guzzi could re introduce a 350 v twin from many years ago, just bring i5 up to date with emission laws

    • @Big_Tyrone138
      @Big_Tyrone138 Před 7 měsíci

      @@andrewdyson4255 Yes. We do need more smaller cruisers or retro bikes.
      Too many people go to the MT-03, R3, or Ninja 400.

    • @paradoxworkshop4659
      @paradoxworkshop4659 Před 6 měsíci

      Wouldn't it sell better as an Aprilia?

  • @BroadwayT660
    @BroadwayT660 Před 7 měsíci +20

    Would love to see a Aprilia Tuareg 457 in their Group's line up.

    • @bamboostick5
      @bamboostick5 Před 7 měsíci +4

      If Aprilia made tuono 457, it would definitely sell a lot

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Před 6 měsíci +2

      Maybe. But without being a single pound over 400 with a full tank of fuel. Otherwise forget it.

  • @aleokyn5757
    @aleokyn5757 Před 7 měsíci +5

    Those who say no remember, Asia market mean million of money for company, they need it to survive.

  • @nickbrigg5203
    @nickbrigg5203 Před 7 měsíci +6

    *shrug* on the Guzzi likeness, it's just nice to see another engine type other than singles in the small capacity neo retro category.

  • @topgearnutter
    @topgearnutter Před 7 měsíci +7

    IMO this is a great step for Guzzi. The reviews of the Aprilia with this engine are all saying the bones of the bike are great, with a torquey engine etc. Having owned a V7 (which had about the same power) I am looking forward to seeing the finished product. Sure it doesn’t have the V engine that Guzzi is famous for, but I would prefer Guzzi surviving and not becoming a Harley-Davidson clone, with a dying customer base and all….

    • @s0meguy809
      @s0meguy809 Před 7 měsíci

      The v7 850 has 65hp

    • @topgearnutter
      @topgearnutter Před 7 měsíci

      @@s0meguy809 yup the new updated one indeed. I owned one from 2014 to 2018, a V7 Stone model, and that had similar power to this new Aprilia engine

  • @_audacerider3838
    @_audacerider3838 Před 7 měsíci +4

    As a Guzzi owner I would love to see a return of a V35 engine with shaft drive in a small bike. But it would make it heavier then all other small cc bikes and if you only make 47bhp a 200kg bike would feel slowish. Plus if You dive in to the Moto Guzzi history they were building single cylinder engines before so why not a parallel twin?! If that new engine would mean Moto Guzzi can still exist and build other bikes then I'm happy that they are doing it. Just look at BMW they do singles parallel twins boxer twins inline fours and inline six cylinder bikes and no one really gets their nickers in a twist because of it. So I'm ok with it as long as the bike itself will be light and nimble well built with a competitive price tag. Being a Guzzi owner gets a bit lonely at bike meets cause normally I'm the only Guzzi owner there lol

    • @shirsoghosh4238
      @shirsoghosh4238 Před 7 měsíci

      😂😂😂

    • @IslandArt61
      @IslandArt61 Před 6 měsíci +1

      BMW is a giant company unlike MG. Moreover, I well remember when the 1000/750 "Bricks" came out, there was backlash from the traditionalists. Same when the boxer went to the "oil-head", or the F650 and R1000. There were multiple schisms among BMW owners. I used to ride a restored R65 Air-head (because the un-restored bike cost me $500) I was invisible to the oil-head crowd, and air-head people just wanted to talk about tradition and "real" BMWs (Air-Heads) I just wanted to talk about motorcycles. As a giant company, BMW Motorrad offers all manner motorcycle configurations. But they still offer the boxer -- if greatly modernized. Re-badging another machine is not the same thing as developing in house. I understand the economics of the choice, but I'm tired of the current parallel twin and chain monotony. If those are my my choices, I'll go Japanese. A V550 Mandelo I'll buy tomorrow.

  • @slacker2101
    @slacker2101 Před 7 měsíci +10

    Better if they did a big single, an updated Falcone.

  • @motorcyclesplanet
    @motorcyclesplanet Před 7 měsíci +15

    Instead They Should Bring back the Old V35 engine which was used on the v35imola and v35 florida just upgrade them to modern standards

    • @heikothomas5883
      @heikothomas5883 Před 7 měsíci +2

      yes for the looks of it, no for the weight and lack of power, if aircooled. I also assume that the V-Twin is expensive to build and would make the package uncompetitive.

    • @_audacerider3838
      @_audacerider3838 Před 7 měsíci +4

      The cost of a making a new v35 would be double if not triple then a new parallel twin. Plus if You put a shaft drive the bike would be much heavier than the competition. With the worst performance, no one would buy them at the beginning Moto Guzzi bikes had single cylinder engines with chain drive so why not a parallel twin. If that would mean a light nippy modern motorcycle then why not. Look at BMW they make all sorts of different engine configurations and no one is crying about it. Same with Ducati now making a single and a V4 on top of their L twins. I want to see Moto Guzzi for another 100th years

    • @shirsoghosh4238
      @shirsoghosh4238 Před 7 měsíci

      ​​@@_audacerider3838lol 😂 😂 you don't buy a moto Guzzi for performance. So this statement makes zero sense. It doesn't need top notch performance, it needs to feel and ride like a moto Guzzi. Production might be a little bit higher, but not astronomical as you put it!

  • @camerongeater5404
    @camerongeater5404 Před 7 měsíci +3

    I think it will be a good move for Moto Guzzi.
    I can't speak for the Euro and Asian markets but here in the US, Moto Guzzi is viewed as an obscure brand, and a cheaper entry could sway people to give it a try.
    And in regards to the p-twin/chain drive setup, a lot of Guzzi fans (my own father included) will be disappointed to see them stray from their iconic engine and drive setups, but in this category of bikes, a V-twin/shaft drive setup would make it too expensive to compete. New rider and riders on a budget would be priced out, and riders looking to spend a bit more would likely want more than a 450cc.

  • @storegga
    @storegga Před 7 měsíci +7

    It's how brands survive. They're born out of necessity not greed. Guzzi cant just rely on what they're good for.

    • @straightup1234
      @straightup1234 Před 7 měsíci

      Got to be a good thing bike for all segments 👌

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Před 6 měsíci

      Every country that loans their currency from the central bank/Fed/printers suffers the same devaluation of their money. Which causes all industry to have to do stuff to survive. When will the world demand these scumbag bankster currency generators get out of their economies?

    • @IslandArt61
      @IslandArt61 Před 6 měsíci

      Actually you CAN rely on what you are good at. You just can't rely on what you have done for decades without moving it forward. You have to improve -- like they've done with beautiful V100 Mandello! What you don't do is box yourself in as a fashion brand whoi's aging customer base will brook no change, a-la Harley. The new Mandello competes well with the other Euro brands if sport performance is not the main deciding factor. A V550 Mandelo would definitely sell me. Something like this just sends me back o the Honda/Kawasaki/ et al, dealerships.

  • @zuhair6661
    @zuhair6661 Před 7 měsíci +2

    What Moto Guzzi has tried to here is to build the motorcycle to a price, probably with the high portion of sales aimed for the Asian market and probably for the South American market as well. Parts sharing will help in keeping the costs down and Moto Guzzi isn't a brand headlining the mediocre markets. Besides this fact usually there is a tough competition in such markets that is why Moto Guzzi went for an economical approach.

  • @MrAndrew1953
    @MrAndrew1953 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Good to see Guzzi dipping their oar in at this end of the market. Hopefully it means an intro for riders moving up to the more advanced level of bikes.

  • @brianward7035
    @brianward7035 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Very well thought out commentary. Thanks. Everything about this upcoming bike screams NOT a Moto Guzzi, but that probably could be remedied, as you suggested, with MG styling cues, colors, etc. I'm guessing Piaggio watched BMW introduce the very UN-BMW Rotax parallel twin models and thought hey, it's worth a try. Setting skepticism aside, it WOULD be nice for MG to have an entry-level model at a reasonable price point, and even better with some Aprilia-style performance flair.

  • @kennedyracing7527
    @kennedyracing7527 Před 7 měsíci +3

    It could be a great opportunity for a entry level bike. Think of Porsche they had to make SUV’s to stay in business to make the 911. Sometimes you need to build things out of your comfort zone

    • @ripmax333
      @ripmax333 Před 7 měsíci

      They have to because its what Europe Dictates. If they want to survive its inevitable.

  • @MrSeansy
    @MrSeansy Před 7 měsíci +5

    The exhaust very clearly says 440cc, handwritten. One can assume they changed some internals to differentiate it a bit from the 457.

  • @viperq
    @viperq Před 6 měsíci +2

    Looking forward to this.

  • @davidforsdike4343
    @davidforsdike4343 Před 7 měsíci +4

    Guzzi have made singles in the past.
    A small single would have been a better choice.

  • @Scout4x
    @Scout4x Před 7 měsíci +2

    1st stage test mule by the looks. I would imagine it'll look much better when/if it comes out.

  • @abymathew295
    @abymathew295 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Bro...its an Aprilia...sharing the same engine on the RS 457....to take on the RE 650s....it gotta be the first retro Aprilia as far as i know.

  • @akiuliano
    @akiuliano Před 7 měsíci +3

    You go Guzzi!

  • @sid426_
    @sid426_ Před 7 měsíci +7

    Transverse mount guzzi😢

  • @jonathantrice7614
    @jonathantrice7614 Před 7 měsíci +3

    Remember the Guzzi 250cc two stroke twins in the 70's?

  • @the_winged_helm
    @the_winged_helm Před 7 měsíci +2

    This prototype has been touted as the Tuono 457 in India. Could be rebadged as a Guzzi in other markets I suppose.

    • @4RMS7TRONG
      @4RMS7TRONG Před 7 měsíci +1

      Its more than likely going to be an Aprilia. I can't see Guzzi going off brand.

    • @the_winged_helm
      @the_winged_helm Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@4RMS7TRONG yeah, can't see that working out well for them. That said, people seem to be moving towards lesser capacity motorcycles worldwide, that are cheaper to buy, easier to ride daily and maintain. So you never know.

  • @chrisbike77
    @chrisbike77 Před 7 měsíci +4

    It's been announced as an Aprilia round these parts, i.e. Mid-Continental Europe.

  • @davidspin5353
    @davidspin5353 Před 7 měsíci +8

    If its not a V twin is really a Moto Guzzi?

    • @thebrowns5337
      @thebrowns5337 Před 7 měsíci +1

      It's a Piaggio

    • @davidspin5353
      @davidspin5353 Před 7 měsíci

      title says Moto Guzzi.... so theres that!@@thebrowns5337

    • @willyrackham2957
      @willyrackham2957 Před 6 měsíci +1

      If you look at moto Guzzi history ..they have made singles ...twins..triples ...wide Vtwins.... inline fours ..so a parallel twin is completely at home with moto Guzzi

  • @MrLagnil
    @MrLagnil Před 5 měsíci

    In a parallel twin, both pistons reach top dead center at the same time.
    In a parallel twin where the pistons move up and down at the same time, the crankshaft angle is 360 degrees.

  • @bonjovi1354
    @bonjovi1354 Před 7 měsíci +1

    actually its a good chance for them to launch this in india ....will b reasonbly priced

  • @sam_o_b
    @sam_o_b Před 7 měsíci +5

    Badge engineering, not a Guzzi in any meaningful way, they could have ran with an Aprilia naked, fundamentally that's what it is.

  • @Dimi3vdv
    @Dimi3vdv Před 7 měsíci +1

    Why is it so hard to put a twin shock on a modern classic design. Triumph 400 also, monoshock.... that was the only disapointment esteticly in my opinion with them . That big open gap between rear wheel en fender needs be filled with shocks . Look forward to what Guzzi going to bring ,they look awesome and this also at first glanse

  • @pipes9878
    @pipes9878 Před 7 měsíci +2

    With using the parallel twin I'm reminded of early Guzzi's 🤔 I Hope the TfT is for testing convenience it doesn't sit right and I'm reminded of the Brough (vintage looks epic, modern interpretation.... eBay catalogue of parts with no clear direction)
    Definitely agree with waiting to see final concept but I do think a small capacity machine would do well in A2 areas and Asian countries.

    • @scottn96
      @scottn96 Před 7 měsíci +1

      Especially considering that the first transverse v-twin didn’t come out Moto Guzzi until the mid 1960s. That makes it a real retro. 😊

    • @classicrider5274
      @classicrider5274 Před 7 měsíci

      Which models of Moto Guzzi were parallel twin four strokes that you remember?

    • @scottn96
      @scottn96 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@classicrider5274 not a specific model plenty of horizontal singles, vertical singles, widely spaced v-twins, and even a prototype v8 500. Guzzi was never shy about trying a new engine configuration before the air cooled transverse 90 twin with shaft drive formula that dominated from the mid 60s to their first water-cooled motor ever with the V100. Also things change. A budget entry level Moto Guzzi could introduce riders to the brand.

  • @Cyco-Dude
    @Cyco-Dude Před 5 měsíci

    Oh i'm sure most of that will change on the production model. That suspension is likely just for testing to find a good compromise between compression / rebound, travel, etc. I can easily see a more traditional shock setup on the rear as well.

  • @pja7
    @pja7 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Triumph don’t really have much of a history of small capacity, single cylinder engines either, but here we are

  • @adriengahery9471
    @adriengahery9471 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Great upload, thank you for posting. We certainly could get a cue that this is going to be a retro-looking bike from what you've said in the video. But since there are these odd blue telescopic thinges (sensors I suppose) along suspension travel, I suspect Guzzi is still at the developpement stage. I'm eager to find out more about this bike, but I don't expect to see it anytime soon on the road !

  • @kankit230
    @kankit230 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This engine is very tractable and will be very good in a pethora pf products

  • @ramarajp5096
    @ramarajp5096 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Great work guys ❤❤

  • @kiplambel4052
    @kiplambel4052 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Didn't Guzzi make only singles in the early '60s?
    In order to "go head to head with the new Triumph 400" they're gong to need to work on styling quite a bit!

  • @chadlewis4302
    @chadlewis4302 Před 7 měsíci

    Guzzi had other engine layouts, and not all were racing only. The Gts 350 inline four, or the worlds smallest, at least as far as I know, the 254 inline four. Everything old is new again!

  • @kaveiros75
    @kaveiros75 Před 7 měsíci +2

    I understand that every company needs to capitalize as much as possible with any new engine. But I would rather see a "retro" small Aprilia roadster, or a new, smaller capacity V-2 engine which would be an actual MotoGuzzi. I understand the "economy of scales" stuff, but getting more and more towards "universal bikes" with no independent personality, makes me sad. And MotoGuzzi is all about personality (and quality riding).

  • @s.venkateswarpatnaik2484
    @s.venkateswarpatnaik2484 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Dear MotoBob i liked your forecast review on Expected launch of MOTOGUCCI Motorcycles🎉

  • @Nick-Emery
    @Nick-Emery Před 7 měsíci

    I like to see some of the old classic brands making new bikes, even if they’re platform sharing.
    Platform sharing makes so much sense from a price perspective.
    I wish to see another Cagiva, MV Agusta should bring out more reasonably priced (even smaller capacity) bikes under the Cagiva brand

  • @DukeOfTwist
    @DukeOfTwist Před 6 měsíci

    oh that Guzzi tail light reminds me of the Aprilia Gen 1 Tuono from 20 years ago.

  • @FTStratLP
    @FTStratLP Před 7 měsíci +2

    This is as cynical as the new Triumphs 400 are. No, of course this is not cynical. But this bike will be a huge competitor to the Triumphs 400. Especially in the European Market, outside the UK, where Moto Guzzi always has been more popular than Triumph.

  • @rickh8380
    @rickh8380 Před 7 měsíci

    Hell I'd buy one. Why not. If it moves my sole, I could live with it. Buy it, ride it, and enjoy every minute that I had it.

  • @Nomikeal
    @Nomikeal Před 7 měsíci

    I dont like the departure from the Guzzi formula of V2s but if it keeps the brand alive and gives us even better purebred Guzzis I can't really complain. I hope it is as successful as the Porsche Cayenne so we can get the Moto Guzzi version of a GT3!

  • @fauveride
    @fauveride Před 7 měsíci

    Moto Guzzi will inevitably compete with Triumph, and if the specifications are improved and the service center is expanded, more people will choose them.

  • @shmac96
    @shmac96 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The V7 is "learner based" isnt it? If not then the every review I've seen has lied.
    Love seeing Moto Guzzi making expanding their line up. Still would love to see a fuller version of the V7. Bike is just a little too "learner based" in size and stature.

    • @davidbrayshaw3529
      @davidbrayshaw3529 Před 7 měsíci +1

      It depends on licensing requirements in your region. In Australia, the old V7 was learner legal. The new V7 isn't, it puts out too much power.

    • @shmac96
      @shmac96 Před 7 měsíci

      @@davidbrayshaw3529 Yeah it is different here in Germany and in North America it doesn't matter.

  • @spiderpsx1
    @spiderpsx1 Před 6 měsíci

    Guzzi Made several bikes in the past without the transversal vtwin, all of them with small displacement

  • @QUATTROMARCE
    @QUATTROMARCE Před 6 měsíci +1

    I think it's more likely a remake of the Aprilia Europa '90.🤗

  • @DukeOfTwist
    @DukeOfTwist Před 6 měsíci

    Moto Guzzi should be hitting up Aprilia to develop a V4 version of the V100 engine with 1500 cc & 180hp shaft drive and build a Big Naked like the old BMW K1300 was in the day.

  • @PratikSatpute12
    @PratikSatpute12 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This aside, still waiting for your take on the Triumph 400 twins.

  • @dieselboy914
    @dieselboy914 Před 6 měsíci +1

    This is pretty criminal. A Moto Guzzi withOUT a V-twin? That's like a Sunday Roast without the Roast.

  • @r.j.bedore9884
    @r.j.bedore9884 Před 7 měsíci

    I would love to see a smaller, lighter Moto Guzzi with a 450-650cc engine, but not a parallel twin. A very big part of the charm and appeal of Guzzi motorcycles is the little side to side rock you get when accelerating, which comes from their signature shaft drive and longitudinally mounted V-twin (and yes, the correct nomenclature for how they are mounted is longitudinal, not transverse as was said in the video).

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket Před 6 měsíci

      Many millions of dollars developing a single engine. All the doggone red tape regulators is the worst part. If it weren't for all the propaganda about the end of the world if we let out a couple of hydrocarbons, we'd see a lot more development among manufacturers, like all the wild cool stuff that Japan was doing in the 80's and 90's.

  • @auntieprimrose4138
    @auntieprimrose4138 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Piaggio also have the Derbi and Gilera brands as well. A new 447 Saturno, or Muhacen ?

  • @h8510129
    @h8510129 Před 7 měsíci +1

    My friend has the v7 special and comparably this one looks much less clean. We'll have to see how it turns out in the final model

  • @TheStumpyFingers
    @TheStumpyFingers Před 6 měsíci

    They should bring back the v50, with shaft drive the bop would still be A2 compliant.

  • @bigbird2523
    @bigbird2523 Před 6 měsíci

    This frankenstein bike just borrowed Piaggio's part that accidentally it was a Moto Guzzi's tanks and tail light.
    I still believe that Piaggio has to remain on Moto Guzzi's herritage and charming that should not be damaged

  • @nigelhazlewood4822
    @nigelhazlewood4822 Před 7 měsíci

    Why didn’t they recreate a small transverse twin such as the V35 Imola?????
    Now that would be a beautiful characterful Guzzi!!!!

  • @whylie74
    @whylie74 Před 7 měsíci

    Guzzi have done this before with a re-badged Benelli 250 4 pot.

  • @bulthaosen1169
    @bulthaosen1169 Před 7 měsíci +2

    You sure it won't be aprilia brand? Kinda weird if you ask me.

  • @therealunclevanya
    @therealunclevanya Před 7 měsíci

    The Himalayan 450 will be out soon as a scrambler and a roadster and will be much cheaper than this. While I get it, and have an 850 Guzzi I would have preferred they had a look at the 500/650 Monza engine to see if it could be updated to Euro6. There are no shaft drives apart from the V7 under £10k.

  • @flatcapcaferacer
    @flatcapcaferacer Před 7 měsíci

    While it isn't a finished product this bike has a looong way to go to fit into the styling of Moto Guzzi lineup and doesn't even look close to the Triumph 400s.

  • @itsBKoutdoors
    @itsBKoutdoors Před 7 měsíci +1

    I can’t get my head around a Guzzi without the transverse V…

  • @SPSteve
    @SPSteve Před 7 měsíci +1

    That doesn't say Moto Guzzi to me in any way. If they want to get into the smaller displacement class they should do a well disguised water cooled single cylinder retro like a modern Falcone.

  • @tonymarsh8436
    @tonymarsh8436 Před 7 měsíci +2

    That rear shock looks more like a R BMW monoshock than anything else.
    Not that that's a bad thing.

  • @heikothomas5883
    @heikothomas5883 Před 7 měsíci +1

    The V7 as Moto Guzzis smallest bike is overprized (for whatever reason) and therefore not attractive for young (potential) drivers. They need a model to compete with entry level motorcycles like the Triumph 400 series.

  • @abhirajshetkar2
    @abhirajshetkar2 Před 7 měsíci +1

    when to expect this one?

  • @stellauniversal
    @stellauniversal Před 7 měsíci

    Moto Guzzi is the type of bike I like to see but with no intention of buying one. The same thing with cars from Alfa Romeo

  • @arax20
    @arax20 Před 7 měsíci

    I'm not sure what the selling point is compared to the royal Enfields 350s, triumph 400s, and the new Indian Harley

  • @not-fishing4730
    @not-fishing4730 Před 2 měsíci

    Bring back the Gambalunga with a horizontal cylinder!

  • @vivekpatel3752
    @vivekpatel3752 Před 7 měsíci

    Motorcycle brands now realize that selling over expensive bikes in the name of tech won't help them as people just want a decent riding machine which gives the experience of freedom... people don't want to pilot space ships ...they want a decent riding bike which can give them memories...

  • @Geshmaal
    @Geshmaal Před 6 měsíci

    I don't mind Moto Guzzi doing an entry-level bike and I also don't mind it sharing an engine with an Aprillia. That said, I would rather this bike harked back to the old Moto Guzzi single cylinder 500cc machines. This looks like it could be a Honda or Triumph and parallel twins are everywhere now...

  • @mloclam6917
    @mloclam6917 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Exhaust pipes becoming bigger than the engines

  • @4RMS7TRONG
    @4RMS7TRONG Před 7 měsíci

    Why are we saying its a Guzzi? The tank doesn't really match the guzzi shape or style. The rear lights? ok maybe. But its more than likely that Aprilia are using Guzzi parts for styling and the bike will actually be an Aprilia retro.

    • @thomasneedham1512
      @thomasneedham1512 Před 7 měsíci

      The lower part of the tank area looks very Guzzi as well as the taillights which could have been taken from my V85TT. A lot of clean up before this one is ready for market but it looks interesting.

  • @Paulfarmer-en4vh
    @Paulfarmer-en4vh Před 7 měsíci

    They had a 350 imola in the 80s that was vtwin guzzi if they modernised that with a catalyzer to pass emissions !!!

  • @waynesellers4078
    @waynesellers4078 Před 7 měsíci

    This looks similar in design to my old suzuki 350 goose.

  • @classicrider5274
    @classicrider5274 Před 7 měsíci

    Can someone advise regarding the engine, I read that is from a Chinese company but also someone wrote that it’s made in India, is that correct?

  • @nickotoka
    @nickotoka Před 7 měsíci

    Could that be the return of the Brevita?

  • @chopsandarchie7015
    @chopsandarchie7015 Před 7 měsíci +2

    MG have to be transverse V twin for me

    • @RupertFear
      @RupertFear Před 7 měsíci

      I agree, this approach worked very well for BMW

  • @jpraserttangsatapornpan9942
    @jpraserttangsatapornpan9942 Před 7 měsíci +1

    I need shaft drive.

  • @exothermal.sprocket
    @exothermal.sprocket Před 6 měsíci

    This sort of reminds me of back when Kawasaki took their old Ninja 500R powertrain and slapped it into a Vulcan 500, but nowhere near as purposeful as when they did this to the current 650.
    Guzzi, you're known for pretty much one thing and one thing only, and this just doesn't work for your branding.

  • @ChrisBOMtoATL
    @ChrisBOMtoATL Před 7 měsíci +2

    Aprilia Shiver 457 😅

  • @romroger
    @romroger Před 7 měsíci

    we need a tuareg 457!!!

  • @aromaticsnail
    @aromaticsnail Před 7 měsíci +1

    The first time I heard about these spy shots it was meant to be an Aprilia neo retro. If indeed is a Guzzi, I really don't know. Some brands are associated with their characteristic engines. I don't see how this could work.

  • @IslandArt61
    @IslandArt61 Před 6 měsíci

    If they made an actual 450 Guzzi -- like the beautiful V35, V50, V650s of yore -- I'd buy it tomorrow. A 450 to 650 version of the V100 Mandelo. I swore my next new bike will be 400 to 650. No more liter bikes no matter how much I love that V100, This however? Never. Parallel twin with a chain? Never. Kawasaki and Honda are bringing back the 400/4s. How about a V550 Mandello?!!

  • @bigjoe4020
    @bigjoe4020 Před 7 měsíci

    If you ask 10 people what makes an MG, I bet 9 would says its the transverse V-Twin. Case closed ! This is just money makin since the 3-500cc market is quite hot at the moment and everybody want a piece of this large pie.

  • @thebrowns5337
    @thebrowns5337 Před 7 měsíci

    I WANT ONE ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Big_Tyrone138
    @Big_Tyrone138 Před 7 měsíci

    Nothing wrong with making bikes for all licence ranges.

  • @jcliggett53
    @jcliggett53 Před 6 měsíci

    It's a bit of a dog's breakfast in terms of design. I agree totally with nickbrigg5203 that we need more bikes in this displacement range. But surely Moto Guzzi is capable of downsizing their iconic transverse twin (in fact, it probably was already built back in the 1950's) to meet that need. I own a 2010 V7 so I know wherof I speak.

  • @barryolaith
    @barryolaith Před 7 měsíci +1

    From the start, 0:00, you say that it "looks to be a .. retro". You then spend a good proportion of the report criticising the styling for not being very retro. Can you see the problem here?

  • @thefunk731
    @thefunk731 Před 7 měsíci

    Aprilia Shiver 457?

  • @BigMoeFo
    @BigMoeFo Před 5 měsíci

    GUZZI did this with Beneli in the 80's when DiTomasso merged the 2 companies bad idea. Take that V100 engine and put it in a Cruiser. Bring back the California line. You're alienating your user base with this bike

  • @TheINDIAN
    @TheINDIAN Před 7 měsíci

    What Norton is supposed to do is what motguzzi is doing.

  • @simtalkayak
    @simtalkayak Před 6 měsíci

    ... Would love to see a V35.. this parallel might be a cash getter, maybe a 35esk bike would follow after.
    *Takes off my foil hat and gets back to real life.

  • @bikegeist
    @bikegeist Před 7 měsíci

    Can't wait to see how this turns out. Looks like right old mess at the moment.

  • @jamesonpace726
    @jamesonpace726 Před 7 měsíci

    This is the problem with corporate overlords - shed loads of cash with impossible requirements....

  • @motojc
    @motojc Před 6 měsíci +1

    Guzzi, V twin + Shaft drive. No thanks. IF you want to reuse the engine, make a supermoto or ADV. And that modern swing arm + one retro mounted spring is ugly

  • @Bugside
    @Bugside Před 7 měsíci

    The interesting part of a Guzzi is the transverse V, this is kinda pointless

  • @kyakaruvlogs2784
    @kyakaruvlogs2784 Před 7 měsíci

    This is a Tuano not a MG

  • @danielmccaf
    @danielmccaf Před 6 měsíci

    That is not a real Guzzi. I hope they won't do it. Without a transverse 90 degree V-twin and shaft drive, it just won't fit in. They have all been that way for many, many decades, and the iconic drivetrain is a huge part of what makes Guzzi special. It's why I bought one, and won't sell it if/when I buy a second one.