Haas Already Proven Right to Drop Schumacher for Hulkenberg

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  • @mittalvinayak12
    @mittalvinayak12 Před rokem +704

    The fact that Hass kept Grosjean for 2020 and didn't try to sign Hulkenberg was something I never understood

    • @peterfighter
      @peterfighter Před rokem +57

      They needed money. Grosjean and Magnussen were not pay drivers. That's why they signed Schumacher (1&1) and Mazepin (Uralkali).

    • @lewis8552
      @lewis8552 Před rokem +92

      They actually did try to sign him over Grosjean, but Hulk didn't want to take the paycut. I think he wanted the same as his Renault contract which was around 5 million but Haas back then just couldn't afford it.

    • @justusbeweel1109
      @justusbeweel1109 Před rokem +14

      @@peterfighter That was for the 2021 season , mate . 2020 Magnussen and grosjean had the Cockpits and both were quite poor.

    • @SkodaYetiFan
      @SkodaYetiFan Před rokem +16

      @@peterfighter Grosjean and Magnussen were technically both pay drivers. Grosjean bought Richard Mille sponsorship along with him and Magnussen got Jack and Jones along with a few other companies who were the only legitimate sponsors Haas had back then.

    • @alastairjones0
      @alastairjones0 Před rokem +26

      @@SkodaYetiFanI cant understand why Red Bull didn’t sign Hulk after the Gasly project went wrong and again after Albon despite both Max and Jos pushing the team to sign Nico. Instead they went with Perez’s money and access to a large untapped drinks market which I get only from a business point of view.

  • @96wtfomg
    @96wtfomg Před rokem +716

    Mick might've gotten his act together by 2023 and may have performed very well. But Guenther made a great point, "why do I have to develop the driver and leave a factor of risk in there, when what I need and what I can get is a driver who already has the experience to deliver right away."
    Mick had to go because Haas needed another driver profile. Which is why I think it shouldn't be such a great debate, glad Hulk is shutting the haters.

    • @supernerd4623
      @supernerd4623 Před rokem +30

      Hot take: Haas should have kept Mick and dropped KMag for Hulkenburg.

    • @pyron4913
      @pyron4913 Před rokem +50

      ​@@supernerd4623 and pay millions in severence fees when they don't even meet budget cap?

    • @pedrosilvamusician
      @pedrosilvamusician Před rokem +5

      That's the philosophy of many companies saying "why do I want to train new guys when i can hire experienced people?" - But you have to have a team that is willing to fight and has the ability to be competitive. Nobody wants to drive an F1 car for the sake of just driving it in the back

    • @SkodaYetiFan
      @SkodaYetiFan Před rokem +40

      Gunther made an excellent point really. Haas aren’t in a position to properly develop a rookie, they don’t have the facilities nor the budget necessary for that. I believe Mick’s only access to a proper simulator was at Ferrari because of his FDA connections.

    • @Argosh
      @Argosh Před rokem +4

      @@supernerd4623 not that hot a take. But it would have been a risk and I can understand why Haas was risk-averse. Hülkenberg would have been a good pairing with Mick in my opinion.

  • @TheBazino
    @TheBazino Před rokem +248

    Bringing Hülkenberg back was a genius marketing move. His interviews with Red Bull's own TV Station ServusTV are now HILARIOUS because he has been one of their TV experts for the last couple of years and so they have super funny banter in every interview now. So no matter what place he finishes, they are getting great PR just from the interviews.

    • @ObitoUchihaisgay
      @ObitoUchihaisgay Před rokem +1

      Got a link?

    • @tilltronje1623
      @tilltronje1623 Před rokem

      Is it Red Bull's?
      I thought they are just a second Austrian channel next to ORF?

    • @TheBazino
      @TheBazino Před rokem

      @@tilltronje1623 No, they are part of Red Bull's media group (they also have a magazine called Red Bulletin and they used to have a cellphone company too, I still have the folding red bull cellphone here :p). Austria has a public TV station called ORF with 4 channels (ORF1, ORF2, ORF III, ORF Sport+), then we have 2 stations called Puls4 and ATV (same channel names) which are a private ones owned by who knows who and ServusTV which is owned by Red Bull.

    • @MK-rw1on
      @MK-rw1on Před rokem

      a genius marketing move?
      you guys are delusional lol, haas talk is down signifacntly this year.
      one loyal base for haas was germans but they are gone bc nobody cares for hülkenberg.
      others cared bc they wanted to know how mick developed but those are gone too.

    • @ObitoUchihaisgay
      @ObitoUchihaisgay Před rokem

      @@tilltronje1623 no, they belong to RB

  • @kanelbullen6992
    @kanelbullen6992 Před rokem +121

    I’ve been a fan of Nico Hülkenberg since he started. Always liked him as a driver, really solid. I remember him in the Sauber in 2013 and he was simply brilliant

    • @pedrosilvamusician
      @pedrosilvamusician Před rokem +17

      Nico is the kind of driver that is super consistent, can consistently put your team in the midfield but lacks the cars and pace to be champ or win races. It's weird. Whereas Kmag was always a 1 race wonder. You have that incredible race and then have 15 bad races

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi Před rokem +8

      @@pedrosilvamusician ferrari were considering nico around a decade ago but went with kimi, wouldve been interesting to see him measure up againt alonso

    • @alastairjones0
      @alastairjones0 Před rokem +7

      @@1greenMitsi Merc wanted Hulk to replace the retiring Rosberg too and Toto even spoke to Renault to see if the contract Hulk had just signed for the 2017 season could be bought out - Renault said no..

    • @UnlovedZetsu
      @UnlovedZetsu Před rokem +3

      Not solid enough to get a podium yet lmao

    • @kohikappu
      @kohikappu Před rokem +2

      2012 Brazilian Grand Prix was his first and foremost as closest as he would've got to win a race.

  • @m.fadhilakbar3693
    @m.fadhilakbar3693 Před rokem +221

    What Haas needed is 2 drivers that can give them a guarantee points and i think it can't be more right to pair Hulkenberg and Magnussen especially with all the financial issues that they had, they must have a guarantee drivers to give them a guarantee results. So far, Hulkenberg has been on it, he demolished KMAG so far in qualifying while we know KMAG's key point to beat Mick last year was his quali but Nico right now is showing a step ahead of KMag in this aspect. However, it's not a problem because KMAG also will be back there with Nico once his qualifying performance like last year. Haas is on the right path now.

    • @samudrasyarif6828
      @samudrasyarif6828 Před rokem +5

      Hulkenberg almost got the first Podium but to Bad FIA Robe him

    • @darrenjohn8524
      @darrenjohn8524 Před rokem +3

      Did u see how Magnussen crashed out at the Australian gp like a rookie . Steiner should get rid of him too🤷.

    • @w4pz859
      @w4pz859 Před rokem +6

      @@darrenjohn8524 let's say you're right, then who's going to replace him?

    • @m.fadhilakbar3693
      @m.fadhilakbar3693 Před rokem +5

      @@darrenjohn8524 so, Mick should replace him? Then u forgot Mick is demolished by him in quali last year by 15-6 or something then outscored.

    • @samudrasyarif6828
      @samudrasyarif6828 Před rokem

      @@darrenjohn8524 But almost all drive say in the Radio the tyre was gone

  • @leewat9068
    @leewat9068 Před rokem +100

    It also proves that Haas should have signed Hulk back in 2020 when he was dropped by Renault

    • @1greenMitsi
      @1greenMitsi Před rokem +8

      they needed pay drivers

    • @leewat9068
      @leewat9068 Před rokem +5

      @@1greenMitsi That's a good point

    • @pz189
      @pz189 Před rokem +9

      It's still mad to me that he was dropped by Renault in the first place.

    • @jonaszahid3892
      @jonaszahid3892 Před rokem +2

      But Hulk himself said he wanted a break.

    • @kohikappu
      @kohikappu Před rokem +2

      Hulk wanted to take a rest from F1 I think. But still, he decided to take the mantle of Racing Point.

  • @A350XLR
    @A350XLR Před rokem +113

    They have the perfect lineup now, and with cost cap reached with Moneygram, they should establish themselves in the middlefield

  • @juanpablomirelesmaria4963

    Hulkenberg is the definition of underrated

  • @SkodaYetiFan
    @SkodaYetiFan Před rokem +59

    I too would like to sign a Hulk apology form. I should’ve never doubted him, so far he’s done a killer job with the machinery he’s been provided with.
    I’ve always said it, Hulk, Magnussen and Ocon are the Nissan GTR of F1 drivers, might not be the most flashy or the most expensive but they almost always punch above their weight. Glad to see 2 of these amazing drivers find a home at Haas, they are definitely on the right path when it comes to drivers.

    • @jeffmattel7867
      @jeffmattel7867 Před rokem

      Magnussen? Mick made him look better than he is. The gap from Hulk to Mag is bigger than the gap from Mag to Mick.

    • @miggygetright6344
      @miggygetright6344 Před rokem +1

      @@jeffmattel7867 Magnussen is nice, go back to 2018, he’s a decent driver and has done good so far for what he’s had. Don’t write him off bc of a slow start to 23’

    • @jeffmattel7867
      @jeffmattel7867 Před rokem

      @@miggygetright6344 Nah! half a second is too big of gap for some one that had a full season extra of experience with the team.

    • @kohikappu
      @kohikappu Před rokem

      @@jeffmattel7867 Magnussen was really good and consistent, didn't know what happened since then.

    • @miggygetright6344
      @miggygetright6344 Před rokem

      @@jeffmattel7867 it’s been 3 races, chill, we’ll see as they go, I think Hulk will probably have an average 2 tenths over KMag throughout the season tho

  • @niclastrapp6724
    @niclastrapp6724 Před rokem +102

    It was the right decision to take the team back on track. Thats coming from a mick fan

    • @Fredhamnewey
      @Fredhamnewey Před rokem +14

      How does mick even have fans

    • @momodeviluke6439
      @momodeviluke6439 Před rokem +19

      @@Fredhamnewey Pretty sure most Michael fans support Mick too, generally speaking ofc.

    • @noobpyxl
      @noobpyxl Před rokem +1

      @@momodeviluke6439 nah they're just simps

    • @trednax_7789
      @trednax_7789 Před rokem +15

      @@Fredhamnewey I'd say he's a pretty likeable guy and of course people would support the son of Michael Schumacher.

    • @VivekSingh-nl6hs
      @VivekSingh-nl6hs Před rokem +2

      True, not mick fan, but always have spot for underdog team. Haas operates on very limited budget. They simply cant afford the damages that mick delivered.
      Cost cap or not haas can't compete with big names in terms of budget.

  • @t8365
    @t8365 Před rokem +12

    Hulk should never have been out of a seat in the first place. Not when you had latifi for e.g. Still on the grid.

  • @ChrispyNut
    @ChrispyNut Před rokem +7

    Hulk's been great for my Grid Rivals team. Picked him for 1st and 3rd races.
    He's been really impressive, especially as he's fresh to ground-effect era, where K-Mag's had a year's experience already.

  • @Txm_Dxr_Bxss
    @Txm_Dxr_Bxss Před rokem +3

    They should Hülkenberg drive the Qualifying and then Schumacher in the race

  • @mittalvinayak12
    @mittalvinayak12 Před rokem +70

    I couldn't understand the hate Hulkenberg was getting last year. The fact that he has been in F1 for a decade goes to show what a quality driver he is. Also for Guenther why would he choose someone who was costing million of dollars to an already weak team

    • @whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
      @whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 Před rokem +23

      Schumacher "fans", my friend, fanbase that was worse than Verstappen's and Hamilton's COMBINED. They weren't even fans of Mick, but fans of his last name.

    • @toothlessrage282
      @toothlessrage282 Před rokem +5

      ​@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 Let me guess, you're a fan of F1 and not a part of any fan base?
      Don't make me laugh.
      All fan bases are toxic.

    • @vicmanvalfre96
      @vicmanvalfre96 Před rokem +5

      ​@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 I don't remember seeing a lot of hate towards Hulkenberg from anyone last year. If anything everyone was just sad. Why paint everyone with the same brush?

    • @whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
      @whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 Před rokem +3

      @@toothlessrage282 True, but Schumacher's was by far the worst.

    • @whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
      @whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 Před rokem +2

      @@vicmanvalfre96 I didn't. I separated fans from "fans". First ones are OK, but fuck the latter.

  • @thomasmctighe6963
    @thomasmctighe6963 Před rokem +1

    my goat is back and i got to see him at his best in person, what a good choice for me to go to the Australian gp

  • @drtyjerz47
    @drtyjerz47 Před rokem +3

    Kmag- I'll bring Jack and Jones
    Mazapin- I'll bring ural Kali
    Shumi- I'll bring 1&1
    *Checo looking at RBR*- "I'll bring u all of Mexico"

  • @Firashelou
    @Firashelou Před rokem +5

    I said it since last year, that Gunther wasn't doing anything wrong by bringing Hulki because he is in a team that needs any point and it is not like for example Alphatauri which is a team for the development of drivers ! It was a great choice bringing the Hulk !

  • @bertdemeulemeester
    @bertdemeulemeester Před rokem

    Thanks for paying attention whenever I post a remark on one of your vids Aldas😉

  • @joegugg4129
    @joegugg4129 Před rokem +2

    Nico got lucky during the red flag they changed his tyres whereas in a pitstop he would have lost some time.

  • @AnimaDweller
    @AnimaDweller Před rokem +9

    Mick at Haas wasn't a good pairing. Not because Mick is a bad driver or Haas is a bad team. It just was a professional relationship that wasn't going to work because Haas can't develop anything as their main objective is survival rather than moving forward.
    People attacked Hulkenberg or Guenther because they dropped Mick but to be honest it was a good choice, especially because he is what they actually can handle. A driver who already has the experience to help the team survive.
    Mick will get a seat, at least I hope he does because I do believe he has enough to be at F1, but it has to be with a team that can actually afford and develop something.

    • @sking2173
      @sking2173 Před rokem

      Last sentence translation: it has to be with a team that can afford to pay for all of Mick’s wrecked equipment …

    • @opshorihaque2790
      @opshorihaque2790 Před 5 měsíci

      @@sking2173 I bet u cannot even drive.

  • @ccramit
    @ccramit Před rokem +15

    I saw a video on Mick's F2 and F3 careers and how it took him forever to even come to grips in a spec car. Unfortunately, F1 isn't a spec series. So if it took him a year and a half to get comfortable in a spec car, F1 with all its upgrades was never going to be easy for Mick.

    • @raficamara1095
      @raficamara1095 Před rokem +4

      Really believe that Mick story in F3 ans F2 is very strange, a lot of drivers called him out for having "better cars" than the rest (you can check the story) knowing how much Liberty Media wanted him to get into F1 and then wanted him to stay in F1, i really find it strange because he is far from the level of his acomplishments...

    • @JustSomeDinosaurPerson
      @JustSomeDinosaurPerson Před rokem +3

      @@raficamara1095 Kinda hard to have "better cars" in a literal spec series. Plus F3 and F2 are renowned for junior driver drama, so I wouldn't put much stock in what they claimed.

    • @ccramit
      @ccramit Před rokem

      If anyone is interested, heres the link czcams.com/video/L29OpXGEqVI/video.html

  • @MaxthonFan
    @MaxthonFan Před rokem +2

    Hulk has always been a really good qualifier. Back in the day he consistently put his Force Indias and Renaults on P7. I expected him to crush K-Mag in qualy right from the beginning, just as I predicted his P3 back in 2020 with the pink Mercedes. It has always been the race where he struggled. In some respect he‘s not unlike Bottas at Mercedes.

  • @theimmortaldavefuckinmiller

    Schumacher was dropped because he had a tendency to write off chassis’s

  • @noxen7682
    @noxen7682 Před rokem +8

    I have always belived that Hulk would be the right call

  • @yungshinji9633
    @yungshinji9633 Před rokem +5

    I want to see a qualifying head to head between Hulk and Mazepin now to see how the three recent big pace gaps at Haas (Maz-Sch, Sch-Mag, Mag-Hul) translate to one driver head to head

    • @cpcxgsr
      @cpcxgsr Před rokem

      nobody wants to see MAZ back in F1.

    • @miggygetright6344
      @miggygetright6344 Před rokem +1

      Would be like 1.5s average gap in Quali

  • @juanpablomirelesmaria4963

    Gunter couldn't say better when dropping Mick "Mick is growing with us not making us grow"

    • @RandomGirlLTU
      @RandomGirlLTU Před rokem +5

      it is very questionable how much growing Mick has done in Haas but yeah the decision to replace him with Hulk was right one

    • @MK-rw1on
      @MK-rw1on Před rokem +2

      thats literally every rookie.
      haas just shows that they have no ambition to create new talent.

    • @fritsieboiker8449
      @fritsieboiker8449 Před rokem +1

      @@MK-rw1on They don't have the luxury to nourish uncertain potential

    • @MK-rw1on
      @MK-rw1on Před rokem +1

      @@fritsieboiker8449 then they shouldnt have taken mick in the first place.

    • @victorrichards5672
      @victorrichards5672 Před rokem

      @@MK-rw1on they took him in at a very critical point in haas', they were about to shut it down so they took in two cheap rookies, perhaps thinking they would perform accordingly but clearly that wasn't the case and they were dropped, but it was a risk to be taken, i still wouldn't blame haas for that

  • @risu7587
    @risu7587 Před rokem +26

    The Problem with Mick is he's just way to expensive to keep for haas especially how he's crashing a lot on 2021 & 2022 even than Mazepin. So yeah, calling Hulkenberg to replace him is surely a good decision

  • @scottmeredith3359
    @scottmeredith3359 Před rokem +5

    Love being proven right 😆 Hulk was always going to come good, but MAN I hope he can get a fairytale weekend sometime this year

  • @Laspatoadv
    @Laspatoadv Před rokem

    Where do you get F1 stock footage?

  • @Ikcatcher
    @Ikcatcher Před rokem +15

    Mick fans will always say he just needs one more season, unfortunately for him there’s only so many times that excuse works

    • @basiliss.5560
      @basiliss.5560 Před rokem +3

      Perhaps he does, but in F1 one more season is a luxury

    • @mrza8910
      @mrza8910 Před rokem +1

      Its more of Haas fault than Mick. Why should they sign rookies in their line up if they want to fight for points? I'll be honest the 2 rookies gamble no matter the amount of money they brought will never work for a team like Haas. Mick has the potential but Haas & Mick is the worst pairing especially for Haas.

    • @MK-rw1on
      @MK-rw1on Před rokem

      haas is just a shitty team lol

  • @aaronsorensen5165
    @aaronsorensen5165 Před rokem +3

    These 2 are fortunate enough to have a seat seeing that 6 new young drivers have come on in just the past 2 years.

  • @Kulumuli
    @Kulumuli Před rokem +2

    After just 3 races all the teams have scored points and just Seargeant and DeVries are without points. So it looks like the back markers have improved and the grid is more even. That will make a great season.

  • @d.k.n4803
    @d.k.n4803 Před rokem +18

    Let's be honest, Mick really needed to be let go because Haas isn't a junior team in anyway, they are an independent constructor that needs results. Surnames aren't enough anymore....

  • @morcap
    @morcap Před rokem +2

    If things keep going as the previous races in this style by race 6 Hass will surpass Ferrari in standings - imagine that..

  • @Alexander_X_
    @Alexander_X_ Před rokem +3

    I have another question that bothers me. What purpose Haas has in coming to F1 if they don't have enough finances? Being at 6-7 place in the construction championship? They are just another team from the back of the grid.

  • @raficamara1095
    @raficamara1095 Před rokem +2

    I know how Mick is loved but i really believe that he is not enough talented to be in F1. People often tell me that he deserves F1 because he won F2 and F3 i mean yeah he won in F2 and F3 but dont forget that he was accused of having a better car than the rest of the grid which can explain why he suddenly went from a low midfield driver to complete domination ... some drivers called him out.
    I find it even more strange knowing how much Liberty Media wanted him in F1 and after his poor 2022 season they wanted to keep him in F1 at all costs (you can check on internet everything i say is available)...

  • @charlesjmouse
    @charlesjmouse Před rokem +2

    I'm of the opinion that Nico Hulkenberg was disadvantaged by F1's rules that until recently severely penalised physically large drivers.
    It's a testament to his skill that under past rules he was competitive at all.
    Remember how unhealthily skinny Webber often looked? Hulk with a much bigger frame couldn't loose that much weight.

  • @deansh8506
    @deansh8506 Před rokem +6

    It's proven that going for free or paid drivers for the past 2 or 3 years was the wrong decision.

    • @kirliefiguera8627
      @kirliefiguera8627 Před rokem +3

      No for Zhou. He is amazing!!!

    • @Mebsuta
      @Mebsuta Před rokem +1

      ​@@kirliefiguera8627 Zhou is objectively a bottom 10 driver on the grid. Bottom 5 if you distinguish "good driver" which he isn't from "good form currently" which he has and Bottas, Magnussen, Norris and Ocon don't. I don't call that amazing.

    • @kirliefiguera8627
      @kirliefiguera8627 Před rokem

      @@Mebsuta Yes he is Outqualified Bottas thats amazing!! He usually was very fast even compare lewis

    • @AZBCDEE
      @AZBCDEE Před rokem

      @@kirliefiguera8627 Zhou is so shit 😂😂😂😂😂he’s nothing special

    • @AZBCDEE
      @AZBCDEE Před rokem

      @@kirliefiguera8627 Bottas now is washed. After 2021 he dropped off. Nothing special anymore. Zhou is honestly nothing special he’s in the bottom five for driver ranking. The only drivers worse than him are de vries and sergeant

  • @Evative
    @Evative Před rokem +2

    What bothers me is we live in a world where even haas cant be arsed to develop a young driver like mick, he won f2 championship hes not a bad driver hes just so young and when max was getting a lot of slack about his driving in 2018 max had red bull behind him and now he is mature and getting faster. Mick raced 2 years hulk has been around for so long I lost count

    • @Evative
      @Evative Před rokem +1

      And another point, haas treatment of mick was extremely stupid, if they cant develop a great driver and sell him off to a big team eventually for profit to advance the team they're gonna be the broke, lidl ferarri forever

    • @sking2173
      @sking2173 Před rokem

      @@Evative - Great driver? Just who are you talking about ?

    • @Evative
      @Evative Před rokem

      @@sking2173 great drivers are not magically born they are moulded

  • @akmaldju
    @akmaldju Před rokem +3

    Hulk has always been a fast, consistent and talented driver. Probably the most underrated driver in the past decade. People who say otherwise just because he got no podiums do not understand how formula 1 works, it's not his fault he was never in a fast car considering that he never had any sponsors with him. When he was in the same car with Perez, Riccardo and Sainz, he was always on the similar level with them and not a single time he was let go by teams based on his performance.

    • @bumblebity2902
      @bumblebity2902 Před rokem

      2012 Brazil, 2017 Baku, 2019 Germany. He threw up the win in the Brazil and later both podiums because of his fault.

  • @Murphs37
    @Murphs37 Před rokem +2

    Honestly Guenther is a terrible TP when you consider how many issues the team has had and he has clearly mismanagement basically every single-one.
    You would swear he only there for his Netflix fame now as he is basically a meme...
    But I do agree, signing Hulk was the correct decision to do
    The main problem ultimately was why on earth Ferrari kept Gio at Alfa for 2021, instead of placing Mick or Callum Ilott there - as Gio really was not up to full time F1 level, despite the odd flash of speed before he inevitably binned it.
    There was no real evidence to justify keeping him at Alfa, bar him being an Italian driver at an Italian sponsored team
    Mick has some potential, but he did absolutely waste the times when the car was good - excluding Austria where he was brilliant
    K-Mag being parachuted in and immediately being quicker and getting better results than Mick was ultimately a killer blow, even before the shunts
    Some time at Merc as Reserve, in a better role for nuturing drivers will do him much better than the Haas environment being a young driver

  • @LPChipi
    @LPChipi Před rokem +6

    While Hulkenberg has the capacity for some weird mistakes I think he is the definition of a solid, consistent driver. Both him and Magnussen are a "7" in my book. The difference is that Hulkenberg is mostly a consistent 7 in every race, while Magnussen can be either a 2 or a 9 depending on the weekend. I think he might have a larger overall ceiling in terms of pace, but also a far lower floor.

    • @pooledogg775
      @pooledogg775 Před rokem +6

      Completely disagree. Hulk on his day beats KMag every time.

    • @Mariushaas-zb4dm
      @Mariushaas-zb4dm Před rokem

      ​@@pooledogg775 😂 there are so many fucking races

  • @15DEAN1995
    @15DEAN1995 Před rokem +2

    Mick may have more potential but consistency is more valuable for haas

  • @IAmLeutrimTopalli
    @IAmLeutrimTopalli Před rokem +1

    K mag has no fear, that’s why I love him

  • @mrbungle3310
    @mrbungle3310 Před rokem +1

    No incidents as a first,beating Magnussen 3-0 in qualifying as a second and being less than 10 seconds behind p2 for 40 laps ,its the most competitive a haas has been driven,im curious if he was in that has last year if he would have managed a podium in bahrain or some races
    I was saying they should have signed him in 2020

  • @lopezjayson729
    @lopezjayson729 Před rokem +2

    My question is why put resources on developing mick only for him to leave eventually for a better team?

    • @69memnon69
      @69memnon69 Před rokem +2

      Why sign him in the first place then? Haas made their own bed by signing two rookies and can only blame the outcome on themselves.

  • @Whatreally123
    @Whatreally123 Před rokem +2

    HAAS gave Mick 1 year (I'm not counting 2021 as that was a sh*tbox). In that 1 year, they didn't provide Mick any confidence and Ferrari not keeping him in their academy would've affected him. He was a rookie and Gunther is an ahole to his drivers. Not something a rookie needs. Look at how Yuki is being handled in spite of him not having done anything great. KMag and Hulk do NOT have the same pressure as Mick. They are drivers who had retired so this is chance is great but not something they'll be worried if it goes away. While for Mick it was the beginning of his F1 career. Good for him at Mercedes. Maybe he can learn a lot and get a drive in the near future.

  • @josephsmallidge5556
    @josephsmallidge5556 Před rokem +1

    This might be a crazy take but I think mick could be out preforming K-mag this year if he had stayed. Not saying the driver line up would be better if it was nick and K-mag. but in the second half of 2022 mick was better then K-mag in my opinion. To clarify I think
    (Mick, Hulk) > (Mick, K-mag)

  • @JulioCharre-pl2ct
    @JulioCharre-pl2ct Před rokem

    This pair is amazing I love both of this fierce drivers. Hulk was checos teammate for a while so I know his skills while magnusen is just a ballsydriver this pair extract everything out the car.

  • @blakebarone1809
    @blakebarone1809 Před rokem +1

    You make an interesting point that might backfire upon Haas in the long run. They are the odd mid/back marker team that is a terrible landing spot for a young driver. While every seat brings pressure, the dou of Haas and Guenter seem to bring real negative pressure.

    • @MK-rw1on
      @MK-rw1on Před rokem +1

      in the new drive to survive season we can see how haas is a toxic enviroment, no wonder that mick couldnt find a place.

    • @p0werfu11
      @p0werfu11 Před rokem +3

      It's funny how no one saw this problem when Mazepin struggled in HAAS but suddenly everyone's so empathetic for Mick.

  • @ksjoet
    @ksjoet Před rokem +1

    Aldas, you're missing to inform that the redflags totally screwed Kmags strategy in Australia. He started on hards and first red flag nullified any advantage he would've get later down the line. Then he swapped tires right before the second red flag

    • @ravinderdasila9334
      @ravinderdasila9334 Před rokem

      haas has to make those calls for magnussen because of his poor quali pace

  • @wellsey2063
    @wellsey2063 Před rokem

    spot on

  • @gucci1131
    @gucci1131 Před rokem +2

    sad but true

  • @gaziranipacov8434
    @gaziranipacov8434 Před rokem +1

    Ppl call me insane but hulk is underrated

  • @maxmustermann6612
    @maxmustermann6612 Před rokem +1

    Yes

  • @Banyo__
    @Banyo__ Před rokem +10

    Thank you very much, I do feel vindicated. All the hardcore Schumacher stans were either blinded by the last name or blinded by the realities of F1 under a cost cap and why they needed to cut him. I felt strongly about them cutting him and slotting in Nico because the team needed someone to do just what Nico is doing. Do I feel Mick got screwed by HAAS---there's a bunch of writing on the wall there, but end of the day, its always always about the racing and what's on track. I'm hoping Mick will eventually come back, wiser, a better driver, and with a team that can work with him well, but until then I'm drinking that hope Kool-aid that Nico will continue to do well and maybe, just maybe get on that podium.

  • @Thisdracoundefeated
    @Thisdracoundefeated Před rokem +1

    Honestly Hulk and Kmag represent a bland but very solid driver line up that have both had brushes with possible championship success. Kevin’s took a podium on debut after winning GP2 and if McLaren was a competitive team and Fernando hadn’t taken Kmags seat he could’ve been a very exciting driver, if inconsistent and sometimes crash-prone (think of a JPM-type driver). Hulkenberg has the opposite problem, he is very consistent and most of the time stays out of scrapes, but he doesn’t have moments of brilliance as often as Kev (and, if he does, he has a habit of bottling it - thus the lack of a podium). His near miss was the Merc seat, which was his if Lewis didn’t pick up the phone to Toto and Niki. In another reality, this is a driver lineup that could’ve driven for title winning teams like RB, and would be considered stunning for their combined race wins and podiums. Just my thoughts.

  • @AndyKazama2
    @AndyKazama2 Před rokem +1

    What a moment it would have been for Hulk if they kept the race order from lap 57 and got a podium. Or would Hulk rather earn a podium properly (i.e. no red flags/ Sainz penalty)?

    • @d.optional3381
      @d.optional3381 Před rokem +2

      Podium is podium. He woulda taken it and loved it.

    • @lukealvarez3744
      @lukealvarez3744 Před rokem

      I think hulk would take any lucky podium especially with the poor luck over they years!

  • @uncut_cowboy
    @uncut_cowboy Před rokem +1

    Aldas always fair but right 👏

  • @chrismuz
    @chrismuz Před rokem

    Solid analysis. I was always convinced that Hülkenberg was probably the most underrated driver (not so much in the paddock, but more by the fans), so I am not surprised that he has outdriven Magnussen (so far). Let's just hope that Haas can keep up with the development race this year!

  • @ChrisMisMYhandle
    @ChrisMisMYhandle Před rokem +2

    Hulk has always had ballistic pace. The "downfall" of his first stint in F1 was his relative inability to maximise race pace on the tyres which were made of cheese.
    Now that the tyres are more robust, I'm not surprised he's performing very well.

    • @J.M_270
      @J.M_270 Před rokem

      But still seems to struggle a bit in races

  • @svendtveskg5719
    @svendtveskg5719 Před rokem +1

    Please go and watch 2022 KMag's first lap fights. In the case with HAM, it's obvious he should take the chance, he's a bit faster, probably due to his first-lap-settings, he's a bit faster, he goes on the outside and they touch the least bit you can touch at all. So little in fact, that the cars doesn't even bounce away from each other. But enough for the endplate to break and to give OCO the chance to report on the radio and get KMag the meatball. Go watch it again, it's SO easy to slander Magnussen, but he's just an old school racer, that goes for the chance when it's there. I hope the pressure from HULK will make him wake up soon. Good video though. :)

  • @chriswirges5202
    @chriswirges5202 Před rokem +1

    This is an excellent report. To me, I would leave things the way they are contract wise and leave them alone to race. The Hulk is doing exactly what he was brought in to do. Mick is better at Mercedes where he can develop. He's not there yet, neither is Yuki. I think the talk of him replacing Sergio at RB is laughable.

  • @legg6221
    @legg6221 Před rokem +4

    I am a haas fan and I liked mick and he was really getting better towards the end of the season often outperforming kmag in the races and could have scored points in zandvoort and Singapore if it wasn't for bad luck. However Hülkenberg has clearly shown that even if mick kept up his best form for this season Hülkenberg would be at least on par with him if not better. Definitely the right move to bring the team forward

  • @tomerodriguezrodriguez5247

    Cool vid title

  • @henrygandy3883
    @henrygandy3883 Před rokem +1

    Guenther's final decision reminds me of Ron Dennis's frustrating final decision to sack Michael Andretti in 93.

  • @asparceproton1
    @asparceproton1 Před rokem +1

    Mick didn't get a fair shake, but it's not really Haas' fault they can't afford to have their cars crashed every other weekend. I look forward to seeing Mick get back out on track and competing, F1 aside.

  • @bilalrasool2318
    @bilalrasool2318 Před rokem +2

    Hulk way faster than K Mag, K Mag was faster than Mick, Mick way faster than Mazepin. How much faster would Hulk be compared to Mazepin? Over a second faster in quali?

  • @tenkafights
    @tenkafights Před rokem

    The problem is that the majority of the teams want to have super young drivers, that they're not prepared, for example Ferrari who has great drivers but if you compare what did Carlos and Charles to get that seat and the two previous drivers, the difference is very significant. The previous 3 drivers of Ferrari had 7 WDC combined. Carlos had the total of 0 races won by the time Ferrari signed him, Charles also didn't even get a podium before he reached Ferrari.
    Hulk hasn't have any car able to being constantly on the podium but drivers as Ricciardo or Alonso always said He's a very good driver.
    Who remembers Vandoorne? Nobody, but when he joined McLaren he hold the biggest gap between p1 and p2 in F2/GP2, he was too young to compete against one of the very best versions of Alonso. Now, 5 years later, there's 4 years he's out of F1.

  • @lordbogus6709
    @lordbogus6709 Před rokem +1

    Half a sec in quali... not even close!

  • @mike04574
    @mike04574 Před rokem +1

    It’s only been 3 races

  • @andrewchao9164
    @andrewchao9164 Před rokem +2

    what if the 2021 car was actually faster than the Williams that year just their drivers were so abysmally slow

  • @ricardomartinez3340
    @ricardomartinez3340 Před rokem +1

    7:16 I would argue that the only appropiate time to attack a red bull or a mercedes if you're in a haas is in lap 1

  • @DynoDinn
    @DynoDinn Před rokem

    Hulk and Danny Ricc at Hass next year would be a Vibeeee

  • @marceljurgens4167
    @marceljurgens4167 Před rokem +1

    IMO Hulk was the decision to make. But with Mick outpacing kmag almost every race, keeping kmag and letting Mick go wasnt the way to go imo. Mick was getting better and better, less mistakes and improving his pace while already being faster then kmag, kmag just was lucky with the early season.

  • @StayGraso
    @StayGraso Před rokem +1

    5:26 I guess you meant gastly and ocon?

  • @UncleP4pr1k4
    @UncleP4pr1k4 Před rokem

    Thank you for saying "tenths" and not "temphs"

  • @giomilahy
    @giomilahy Před rokem +2

    With young driver you can have a chance with promising driver. But just that, chance and promise. While with senior driver like Nico Hulkenberg you have proven mid table driver.

  • @FlexRogers
    @FlexRogers Před rokem +1

    You say Haas was the wrong team for him because they aren't a manufacturer, but where was he supposed to go? Haas was the clear choice because they are a Ferrari customer. It was either them or Williams, but they aren't a manufacturer either, just a Mercedes customer. I don't get your reasoning there.

  • @Rosaurum
    @Rosaurum Před rokem +1

    6:01 i call it deprarious

  • @F1Fan3025
    @F1Fan3025 Před rokem +5

    Nick ULKENBURGGG

  • @dustinabigan2776
    @dustinabigan2776 Před rokem

    As much as it would be good to have Mick in the grid, he just didn't perform and because of that got dropped. From the start I thought Nico was a good choice. By then yes Mick has already scored points in the UK and Austria, but what did that cost? I think that's what led Haas to wanting a non-rookie this time. I don't think any team that has limited cash would want to have a rookie that causes major shunts like Schumacher did. Hopefully Nico gets more points in the next few races, because at this point I'd say it's still unknown whether or not Haas' development will drop off again at some point. Moneygram is now that stable sponsor they want, but how they use that money remains to be seen.

  • @mrza8910
    @mrza8910 Před rokem +1

    Both Haas and Mick did themselves dirty. Haas being in need for consistent driver chose a rookie like Mick, while he needs a team that have the capacity to back him up while he's learning the ropes, in which Haas doesn't have. Of course some fans at that time was angered with Haas because why do you invest in a rookie, only to give him a literals tractor on his 1st season with the 2nd season having reliability issues & bad luck to actually improving significantly by the end, would only led to him being replaced? Mick is just a scapegoat for Haas's survival & eventually they reap the rewards while Mick was sidelined. That's how I feel with the whole affair. Not a thing about Nico, just Haas being ass with their man management like we always know.

    • @sking2173
      @sking2173 Před rokem

      ^Schumacher fanboy …

    • @MK-rw1on
      @MK-rw1on Před rokem

      good interpretation.
      haas f1 team is probally the worst managed team and it really shows.

    • @temiomo-loto4122
      @temiomo-loto4122 Před rokem

      @@sking2173 bruh shut up

  • @sammillis3989
    @sammillis3989 Před rokem

    I think that a lot of F1 fans were rooting for Mick and really wanted him to succeed.
    I most certainly wanted to see him blossom but 2022 was painful to see him crash as much as he did. Let’s be honest he had it easy in 2021 with Mazepin as a team mate which through no fault of his own probably didn’t do him any favours in some ways but he consistently beat his teammate.
    I really do hope he figures out what and where he went wrong and if he gets another F1 seat he rights his wrongs and proves his critics wrong

  • @TejasKhandekar
    @TejasKhandekar Před rokem

    Hey Aldas, got an advice if you don't mind. Try keeping the video title short and crisp without giving away the gist of your video. Like with this title, I already know what you're going to talk about, so it reduces the mystery and hence my incentive to watch the video. I mean I'll still watch it, but maybe other watchers might be put off. I'm sure you have all the right data and analytics to know which kind of titles get the most views (in which case ignore this stupid advice), but this is just what I thought in the moment. Cheers!

  • @angus_bangus
    @angus_bangus Před rokem +5

    I actually wanted hulk to comeback instead of kmag in 2022

  • @ForzaPolska06
    @ForzaPolska06 Před rokem +14

    Dropping Mick was harsh but Hulkenberg proved me and many people wrong
    He isn't washed, in fact he makes Magnussen look washed

  • @rdgrdmedflde3661
    @rdgrdmedflde3661 Před rokem

    Aldas please explain why you Think p12 is solid for Nico when he started 4 places in front of Magnussen? He was even told to let Magnussen by because he was slower.

    • @saladpotet7872
      @saladpotet7872 Před rokem

      You need to remember Hulk got damage early in the race and that severely impacted his performance

  • @Eeraz
    @Eeraz Před rokem

    I sure hope Hulk one day gets the Car or the Race (no injured drivers ,just blasted Chasis) to get that Podium he so rightfully deserves.

  • @SK-dq4ee
    @SK-dq4ee Před rokem

    After seeing how well he did in his super sub performances I knew he needed to get a seat back, we know from alonso that age is not a factor in terms of performance and hulk is proving all the haters wrong right now, I knew i was right all along to bet on him from the start as i’ve been advocating for HULKENBACK since i saw he lost his seat in 2019 in drive to survive before i started watching the races in mid 2020, thank you Haas for putting trust in the one and only HULK

  • @flamingburritto
    @flamingburritto Před rokem +2

    I just wonder what if Hulkenberg never left F1. He would've had even more experience, and probably could've been in a better team performing even better.

  • @boshengcao
    @boshengcao Před rokem +1

    Imagine Max and Nico on the same team

  • @paulsven7923
    @paulsven7923 Před rokem

    100%

  • @fyaaeya7803
    @fyaaeya7803 Před rokem +1

    If Perez didn't lose the seat in Racing Point this dude or K-Mag would be in Red Bull for now

  • @adammarjanovic
    @adammarjanovic Před rokem +1

    Hulk and Ricciardo for 2024 inshallah

  • @Lucas-bm9yk
    @Lucas-bm9yk Před rokem

    Above leclerc what, woah xD

  • @BanditoBurrito
    @BanditoBurrito Před rokem

    Got to give props to Haas they pulled themselves out of the pit that is the bottom grid while everyone mocked them

  • @dragonmaldito
    @dragonmaldito Před rokem +1

    Hass proven right, Gunther's proven right. But if Michael was around, no way they would treat Mick as he was treated, as Toto said

  • @MrBrown-zu3el
    @MrBrown-zu3el Před rokem

    I would love to see Nico Goatenberg next to Max in the Red Bull. Please racing Gods make it happen!

  • @vijilant
    @vijilant Před rokem +1

    I was worried f1 world get super predictable and boring this year, but haas and aston are keeping it spicy.