[MMA 2022] melon music awards 2022 is a MESS
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Who do you think deserved to win the song of the year?
Nxde idc whatever you all want to say
Nxde. Stay pressed if you dont agree
Tomboy
If u go with international popularity then it has to be newjeans. No doubt.
You all lack common sense. Nude was released a month ago. It was not even in the tracking period.
Remember, the award is rigged unless your favorite won it.
It's always like this every single year.
Do you really think your votes matter? All of these shows are rigged, regardless of country they are held in
ah yes i forgor 💀
I stan SKZ and Ateez. I know that Ateez may never win not because they bad but because they arent as big as SKZ and that is fine.
The moment the fans can vote you know that small fandom cannot win and crying over it makes no sense😭
You just said my words 😂😂😂
😭🤣 true...this is my first year of following korean music awards and read comments about them and i read that's what ppl always say when their faves don't win 🤡
personally wasn't a fan of nxde but i think the fact that soyeon, as a female idol, is receiving public recognition as a songwriter and producer is great news. i hope that we get more idols able to make their own music in the future.
A lot of female artists write their own stuff. They are just not as activist or appreciated by the korean culture. Oh my girl leader writes a ton also izone girls. Yena yuri... And a lot more...
I agree!!
I also dont like nude and tomboy. The only.songs i liked were latata and hann.
I love nxde and tomboy
it's songs that's making the group popular. also the visuals, without Soyeon writing these IcOnIC songs they would probably not even be as popular as they are right now.
No way u just said soyeon didnt deserve the award or that tomboy didnt deserve best music video 💀
all I’m hearing is MISOGYNY from this person
@@evelincastanon6281 girl shut up
@@evelincastanon6281 fr
@@evelincastanon6281 She litteraly called bts songs boring and calls other female groups that she think should won the award what are you saying?
I agree some of her opinions but bts songs aint boring she just doesnt like it she aint everybody, those songs arent made for her
@@evelincastanon6281 anything and everything is misogynistic at this point. be for real
tomboy and nxde are a masterpiece idc what anyone says.
Yes they could have made tomboy song of the year!!! I am really mad!! Like love dive song of the year!? Pfft 😂
I know soyeons rap was off in tomboy but that doesn’t matter nxde was absolutely insane and has a meaning and a big concept that was executed stunningly I don’t know where all of this hate came from it’s absolutely ridiculous. I will not tolerate such slander
The creator of the video thrives off of putting hate on female kpop idols. Which is misogynistic but they only go for them so much…
SHES SO GOOD IDK WHY PPL R WEIRD AND HATING
Nxde was is and will always be a masterpiece
Nxde is a masterpiece
there is no meaning like wtf
The IVE favoritism is annoying they're good but I wouldn't say they're better than Lesserafim, NewJeans & G(IDLE). Their choreo is extremely simple their songs are just catchy but so are "attention'', ''antifragile'' & ''tomboy''. There's literally no reason why they should've won 4 awards specially a Daesang idc about the criteria or whatever. I'm not hating they're great I just think they're overhyped a bit.
For sure
facts! thank you!
@@salutcmoa404 Do they thoo? I'm not crying just stating a opinion :)
Get ready to lose another Song of The Year in MAMA 😢
@@salutcmoa404 y'all are so childish
Nah Soyeon deserves that award 100%. She's a genius.
I know right she might not be the best song writer but the rap is pretty good i byheart it and can rap it now :) and Tomboy is my fav song from Gidle
Ignore her, she is jealous of Soyeon.
@@chenles_defender no she isn’t she just doesn’t like it 💀
@@user-essenceyea she rlly doesn’t like it at all. Musically, Nxde is a masterpiece. 😭
@@chenles_defendershe is tho fr
ik this happened like 7 months ago but Soyeon and IVE deserved whatever awards they got. IVE literally has no skips and if you don't agree idc.
yess!!!!!! The creator said they don t deserve the award but IVE has 4 viral songs. And Soyeon lyrics are the best. I think the creator is just offended because her fav didn t win what she wanted🤷♀️
So true honestly but we all have our own opinions some people just like to hate on other groups because they think they didn’t deserve it
BIBI deserves a Best solo Female award
frfr
Nayeon does this year
TOTALLY AGREE
@? People like the song. You can call it basic but it’s good music for many people. Bibi music is extremely hit and miss for most people compared to Nayeon anyway so doesn’t deserve the award over her
@@kaziam4318 Please don't get me wrong I am not hating but still I think bibi deserved the award. Like I know nayeon's solo perfectly describes herself but bibi really have bring a really different concept also her song animal farm was such a bop. Again saying! I am not hating I loved the solo of nayeon but I think for best female solo bibi will be a better deserving person.
I'm surprised Hype Boy doesn't have any daesang award yet. That song defined 2022 for me.
I hope next year new jeans , gidle amd lesserafim dont attend this shit award anymore
NewJeans have the most iconic and best songs. Yet to give a Daesang to a group that just debuted 3 months ago could be problematic. Hope they get it next year.
They nominate attention hmm, while hype boy really strong enough to win an awards
@@jamiefooddreamer6381 please stop using the word iconic for LITERALLY EVERYTHING
@@jamiefooddreamer6381 not really because Miss A and 2NE1 got a daesang the same year they debuted? as long as the song was a hit i don’t think it would be controversial
IVE is already famous in korea and Love Dive have been on top 10 ever since it got released so it's understandable why they get all the awards also let's just appreciate soyeon winning the best songwriter, actually we all knew she deserves more than that and i hope you do some research first before talking all the shits about the other artists that have won their awards.
Wow watching this video made me realize why I left the k pop community in the first place. Like literally any other genre of music I listen there aren’t any slander or toxicity that emits from the fandom. And it’s kinda sad how these kind of insults/slanders are normalized in this community. I am never dipping my toes back into the k pop hole 😒
Exactly hearing this person makes me think they’re 11 so I’ll let it slide for now if they learn better
SOOOO REAL but for me personally I just ignored the toxic side of the community on focused on the better side !!
seulgi's 28 reasons debut is so good how could she not win😭
lol so many replies and some arguing as well haha. this time many 4th gen groups won cause it is 4th gen kpop time now. im an army and i get it why some people disliked BTS winning so many awards, its just to honour them for their contribution to kpop. no hate to any artist! keep being respectful in your own fandoms:)
Because melon belong to Kakao. The company that have a beef with SM
@@anikalee9012Yea that's why no sm artists attended
so sm has beef w mma and yg has beef w mama 💀
@@melsys imagine the stupidity of having beef with the 2 big companies💀💀when will they realise idk
She was robbed
Soyeon definitely deserved the award! some of her raps are off.. but NXDE was a hit
Her raps has been good in oh my god, lion, dumdi dumdi, and nxde. What just wrong about y'all is you focus in the bad one's and stop recognizing her good ones
Wow I thought NXDE is almost everyone's favourite. I am not into kpop idols these days but I like to listen to NXDE, it is so good
@@naniyomihayo8501 this
fr tomboy was the only bad rap she made lol
Some of her raps? Tomboy is the only song when her rap is not good and she wrote 73 songs
if you actually look into stats you'd realize the daesangs made sense. IVE's songs charted exceptionally well and BTS' album outsold other groups'. I know fans feel unfair or bored when they see BTS snatch another major award again but like come on lmao, at this point it's simply difficult if not impossible to exceed them in sales or impact. Yes every group works hard but the numbers are literally right there.
This video screams “I don’t like these idols because they stole an award from my fave 😡”, sis just say you don’t understand the meanings behind the songs that one and can’t accept the fact that IVE and Stayc have been growing in popularity. “BTS had one of the most boring comebacks this year” sis their 2022 comeback was anything less than boring, I could argue that last years was boring since they were all songs geared towards the English market, the only song from last year I actually love from BTS is permission to dance. You can’t tell me they didn’t deserve the award when you personally think it’s boring, yes having a huge fan base played a part in it but you also need to understand the references and meaning. 1. the boys are gonna be starting their military services one by one, Jin already started his about a week ago so that song feels like a tribute to their eventual hiatus.
Omg finally someone who understands meanings of songs
Facts
i am literally crying from inside when she sys bts have most boring comeback in 2022
they are living legends💜💜💜💜💜💜💜💜
No one is talking about how SVT should’ve won so many awards but were snuffed because of attendance. Like the editing in ‘HOT’ alone should’ve won best MV. Also I have nothing against StayC (I’m actually happy they got recognized) but you can’t ignore SVT exponential growth after Rock With You and Hot internationally. Like sold out US stadiums and Japan Domes… they actually deserve everything
No fr. Evb is mad about these other ggs not winning but forgetting that seventeen the most deserving group still hasn’t won anything🤷♀️
My bois DESERVE ARTIST OF THE YEAR AT LEAST ONCE😭😭
Who tf is SVT???
No fr even professional video editors said they had the best music video this year and were praising it so much
@@reaper5257 Seventeen.
Embarrassing and G idle’s performance was so good, and I do agree Nxde is iconic in the message and fell short in other places, but def Le Sserafim and G Idle deserved most of these awards, Stayc was sooo random. Though Poppy was a bop!!
Yess
Poppy is a really good song. STAYC deserve it.
StayC was not sooo random. Their discography is flawless. And just look at their streams on spotify. Maybe you are just ignorant.
Love Dive is just ordinary song, nothing special...yes Gidle, LSrrafim, Stay C and New jeans have more and more a good song
agree with all you said
Also, why are people acting like soyeon is a bad songwriter or as if she hasn’t been doing this for YEARS. Shes been doing this on a regular since 2018, its nothing new. Shes very deserving.
In my opinion tomboy was really one of the best music video bcs if u watched some of their interviews soyeon mentioned that they really invested big money just to shoot the mv,and they putted alot of effort to it so lets just congratulate them.
gidle really deserved to win best female group! i know ive did impressive this year, but i am so sad for them
There’s always next year
There's more award shows to go, MMA is not the only award show in korea
@@satoru_rose theres also mama
@@loliwinxedits6095 bp will win MAMA , maybe AAA or some other
not surprised an army is saying this bs 💀 anyways seventeen deserved to win best male group they charted better than all the other nominees in korea
honestly, you kept mentioning the same groups. This video wasn't really about it being rigged, your faves just didn't win. Beautiful monster from stayc did well. And did you forget run2u? Also soyoen was able to write powerful lyrics, nxde and tomboy were everywhere thanks to her. Even though some may say tomboys rap was bad, there is more to the song then the rap lol. You were also heavly biased on the fact that you said that blackpink should me female group of the year because they 're popular, but isnt the same 4 bts? Also blackpink on had 2 comebacks bts had way more than that...
this whole video was a mess lol.
Oh ok boomer😂
@@ayeshasumaiya3233 no coment because this reply itself is already horrible💀
i agree
pls report this person her opinions doesn't matter dawg she is always hating especially bp and other ggs uk
Very true
Bros just salty
Fr,if IVE wins a single award everyone complains,let them have peace!:/
I think New jeans should have won Best Female group, New Jeans Concept is really good, and theyre songs and Performance is MASTERPIECE
Full of energy, all stunning, no favoritism 🥰
They aren’t popular in Korea and chart horribly a lot of the times. It’s not about talent it’s about popularity. If a bunch of people like the same thing ofc it’ll receive awards idiot
Remember al the girl groups debuts songs are quite popular too ..somehow little higher than the past cos it's 2022 not 2017 -21.. new groups should get best female artist and top ten ..for daesang must be given to someone that had contribute to the whole kpop
no ive deserved it
Lesserafim also did masterpiece stages 😎
The IU one is not true at all, she deserved it. Y'all only listen to catchy beat song but never looked at the lyrics and the actual meaning of the song. IU successfully capture the whole SK heart with her amazing song writing skills which 99% of KPop idol not doing already explains why she deserves her award
THIS! IU is a beast! Her music and song writing is so good and diverse! She totally deserved to win!
seulgi's 28 reasons deserved it IU has made some weird ass pedophile jokes and is racist
@@valeriahh8963 yeah
Some Kpop fans truly think Korea starts and ends with their favorite idol groups lol. The most popular genre of music in Korea is ballades and the public is especially receptive to well written lyrics. IU delivers on both fronts. If you don’t even understand Korean it’s hard to fully get what would make some poetry in Korean better than another one.
This whole video just sounds like someone who knows nothing about how this award show works or what is popular in Korea at all and is just pissed that the entire nation isn’t on her wavelength. Calling everything you don’t like boring is so childish to be honest.
FACTS!!!!
About Iu: I agree that she didn't deserve to win because this year she dedicated herself more to other areas than music itself. And I also agree that there is favoritism over her. But I couldn't disagree more about her bringing the same sound every comeback, just compare all her title tracks. Red Shoes, Celebrity, Palette. They all have Iu's signature touch but aren't the same sonically.
She’s from kakao too so it wouldn’t be too surprising if the votes were manipulated but regardless IU is a household name in korea .
Yep, she’s under Kakao and is well known to plagiarize a lot of her music. There’s a video compilation that has over a million views about this.
Taeyong literally has many streams thanniu this year. But favouritism came first
they prefer quality over quantity. IU's songs are gems of SoKor. You can't beat that.
@@bunch3008 nct taeyong? Or u mean taeyeon?
Agree on all but soyeon one I don't think she write bad works all the time she deserved the award and I'm so glad she got it just because of one bad rap you can't judge her
The misinformation and overall disrespect from this person and the comments towards IVE is sickening.
You can't just call them unworthy if you don't care to look at the criteria for the categories y'all are mad at them for winning. IVE had every box checked for best girl group and soty. Love dive spent almost all year in the top 10 of every chart, had the longest streak on spotify and apple music for any idol group, it has the most circle index point out of ALL songs released this year in Korea and to top it all of they have 2.5M plus total sales with just three single albums which is insane. All of this is girl group of the year AND soty behaviour, period. If you disagree that's on you but Melon awards performance and the best performing song and group were awarded
Thank you, that's all I can think of. I saw that video and scrolled down again and again hoping someone would defend them. Can't people just say congratulations ? Why is it always bad if it's related to IVE ? That makes me so sad but I'm so proud of them. Thanks for your words of comfort, they really made me feel better. I hope people will start to just love every group and congratulate everyone on day..
Thanks dear stranger for making my DIVE heart warm and my day better
What I’m saying, the account is just hating atp like🤦🏾♀️ it ain’t even a opinion.
Soyeon deserved best song writer, she has written so many bops for gidle so just for one song you didn’t like is messed up
Ive acting shocked, when they know their company probably bought every award they won 💀
lmao ikr I was literally thinking the same. Like girls you probably knew u were taking that home so stop with the act🤣
Lmao
@@heartsforgyuandriki good
yall are so bitter that ive is slaying
@@loliwinxedits6095 ok
I'm not even an IVE stan but if you're asking why IVE won best female group and doubting their popularity (of all things lol), you are clearly biased. any korean will tell you IVE are the biggest girl group in Korea right now, and the top trending female idol is Jang Wonyoung. IVE also dominated the charts entirely throughout the year with every song they released, like no other group could. what world are you living in lol
But do you think it's kinda sus when they win 40 times with a 3 song? Like duhh that's weird, I'm not army but bts was a really big group like really big so I'm not surprise when they always win but I've was a new debut girl group who win so many in 1week and 3 song that's WEIRD
@@mqoqnqiqcqaif you knew Korean charts and data of how a song gets to win an award you would be less weirded out !
@@yurika_edits how about comparisons bc everyone loves those. Ive is a good group yes but look at LESSERAFIM and NewJeans and tell me that ive is best gg of 2022
@@Tylastyger people seem to be ignoring how well IVE charts on all Korean charts including Melon. I wouldn't be surprised if they win this year as well.
@@mqoqnqiqcqa IVE is just the it korean girl group, now instead of getting weirded out, go stream your favs so they can maybe..win an award.
Stayc's award may be due to the fact that they are always overseas and people know them and welcome them. Unlike other groups they don't come from a big company and literally it's amazing many people know them globally well at least at the countries they visited.
Stayc's agency was founded in partnership with CJ and kakao acquired more shares last year.. so they're not from a small company. Cj is literally a giant in k-entertainment industry..
@@KosmoNavis let me give you an example
1.New jeans - Even before they debut more than millions of people wait for them so it is impossible for them to be not popular if they produce good music unlike stayc although they produce many bop they still didn't get much recognition as new jeans or other group from big 3.
@@KosmoNavis let me give you an example
1.New jeans - Even before they debut more than millions of people wait for them so it is impossible for them to be not popular if they produce good music unlike stayc although they produce many bop they still didn't get much recognition as new jeans or other group from big 3.
That’s the reason jk’s ideal type is iu .. she is perfect
Oops sry replied on the wrong comment
BTS's song was supposed to give a message and show some type of story, like a good song would, and they did. At the same time, I understand the comments said in this video because as everyone knows k-pop fans aren't actual music listeners or care about the music its self; therefore the opinion stated since it's lowered down to k-pop standards, would be somewhat okay. But in the case of saying that 'Yet to Come' floped or was bad, that is just horribly incorrect in every and any way.
Now be fr saying that BTS didn't deserve that win bc that just sounds like some jealous k-pop fan tryna take away their hard work n shit. Sure for this k-pop comunity they might have not stood out, but everything they did this year was did pay off only that GLOBALY. BTS will continue winning because they best and you can chose to either accept it or not bc it's a fact.
None of the kpop groups are bold enough to release pop ballad or alternative hip hop tracks as title tracks. They would flop more if they released no choreo tracks. Music is not the first priority anyway💀. BTS is the group making meaningful music
But this year their performance wasnt as good as their previous ones , they still got best male group bcoz of their past performances ams have a big fanbase to vote for so stop being immature
@@ayeshasumaiya3233 If I have to be inmature for your pea sized brain to comprehend that whatever they do they still outdo the whole industry I will. K-pop fans only want the same catchy formulated songs that have absolutely no sense and are trash. Seems like you are one. BTS actually focuses on music and the meaning behind their lyrics which is why their performance was still better. Their big fanbase is just evidence on how much better they are than everyone else. Armys vote for BTS because they are actual music fans and aren't just mindless little things that kiss as2 to whatever the kpop industry gives them.
They got best male group because they are THE BEST GROUP.
exactlyyy
@Ayesha Sumaiya stfu they're not being immature??? can't u read?? bts DID infact did so well last year with them being grammy nominated artists and having the song "yet to come" on no.13 on billboard even it's a ballad song yet bts
I’m my opinion, Yet To Come wasn’t boring at all, yes, Run BTS could’ve been the title track so it could be more popular but I think Yet To Come deserves to be the title track because of the meaning behind, but of course, that’s just my opinion💜
the meaning would be the same if it was released by another group yet it would have flopped. its only because of popularity
@@bestnikistaa The difference is that other groups wouldn't have written it, their ghost writer would, but here Bts wrote it and for Armys nonetheless. Also other groups are stereotypical manufactured groups that sing mostly meaningless songs, look pretty and never curse or speak badly about someone even if they've been wronged, like dolls without personalities with a couple of memes providing them with that lacking personality, so ofc they haven't built that type of connection with their fans the ways Bts did. Bts isn't a standard, everyday kpop boyband, they are an anomaly in the industry and very rare. Hence the loyal fandom. They can't be compared with other singing Barbies and Kens. They deserved the win.
@@bestnikistaa oh hell nah, it's popular because it was meaningful and reached out to many fans, yeah I get it wasn't for everyone and it was a personal song, but seriously, y'all would bite onto anything just for the spite of it.
@@bestnikistaa the song is very meaningful to army and it is related to their break , so stop it
@@bestnikistaa The meaning is definitely not the same if other groups sing it since it'ss a personal song and the lyrics especially suga's rap is his own experience..And who among other groups could have sang that their past is the best??(what other group is more successful than BTS in the past years?) and that their best is what comes next other than BTS..This song doesn't suit other groups at all so please think again..As RM said your bashing pattern is getting boring..
nah soyeon deserved this award. who even r u to disrespect soyeon like this hello? she writes all of their tts and theyre all bops, her writing skills are VERY VERY good.
G-idle has always been more famous worldwide until this year when they finally blew up completely in Korea, but IVE are THE aces of kpop domestically, had enormous sales this year and are simply loved by Korean public. Everything they got that night was deserved, like it or not.
So this admin is saying whole " Proof " album is BORING?! Huh okay girl go on with whatever You're saying or spreading in your account!
BTS don't really need an explanation to give anyone 'bout why are still the BEST MALE GROUP!
Still their title track from proof got nominated at the grammys 🤣 and yet people wanna say the song didn't make sense 😑
For me it’s kinda, bcs in proof have previous title
@Camera ytc literally debuted #13 on hot 100.
Higher than every fckass kpop grp ever. Debuted straight to #1 on melon. First song in HISTORY to do so. Don't believe anyone who says it didn't do well.
@@Sam_70 BTS is the most streamed korean artist. 56%. One group is being streamed more than all the artists in korea combined. ANd if you add suga, it rises to 60%
@@Random-qi3vv ofc...bt kpop stans love to play blind when it comes bts and force ppl to think otherwise. Scumbags
i think some underestimated how popular ive were on melon this year. this is a award show based on the melon music app, and they were always on top. newjeans was also very popular but I guess they had the disadvantage of debuting in august this year, but if i remember correctly ive dominated the girl group game on melon this year. (im not a fan, but i saw some statistics online)
for sure, thay deserved it
Seems like people are turning a blind eye to the actual statistics when it comes to soty this year. Then again it's understandable since a rookie group ended up taking it
How can you say yet to come was boring it was a masterpiece and it had a deep meaning at this point I think you dont want anyone to win the mama awards also yet to come was nominated in Grammys so whoever's saying that the song is boring then ya'll dont know anything about it . Seriously girl your lucky that CZcams removed the dislike button
bts’ comeback was full of meaning, it made ppl feel emotions, if someone’s music makes me feel smth they definitely deserve an award
Yet to come holds so much meaning, bro!, I cried when it was released, it was like a bye bye song from BTS. And this girl thinks it was boring. All she can do is sit at home, hate on other's craft, get jelaous and a make a video of it on youtube. pfft! I'm gonna like flag her content or block her. It's not even a video, It's just complete garbage
Ifkrrrr
nah it was terrible, bts comebacks from 2021~2022 were the worst songs possible made. boring as heck but armys still eat it like it was amazing
@@jaspernepae1841 bro what are u saying? Their songs are full of deep meanings
And boring? Wth man
Just say that u r not an army...
And just like namjoon said "my music ain't for everybody. specially not for you bitch"
I ain't trynna insult you or anything but that's just what he said- so-
Call me toxic or Wtever idc
@@faeriie lemme say one thing
BTS is better than your favs
when something is popular there has to be a reason, so bts having so many fans to vote for them because they are popular isn’t bad. I think they deserved the award
Exactly
@@Skzarewatchingus2007 that’s your opinion, but all bts fans , the armys thought differently and voted for them.
@@Skzarewatchingus2007 I could say the same for pink venom as a comeback song............ no ma'am 👎🏾
@@Skzarewatchingus2007 u saying ur an old army doesn't add an relevance to ur comment btw xx
@@pjmbae soo true!!
even though id disagree since i do genuinely like nxde, soyeon has written some amazing works like oh my god, latata, uh oh, and lion. so i think her past works can make up for it. they deserved best female group and soty
You guys should grow up. No matter what they dont give sht about ur opinions
YES and what makes her better is she had a backup song if one of the members (don’t remember) don’t dye her hair SOYEON IS QUEEN OF SONG WRITING
@@wonrei geez did you sleep on the wrong side of the bed? its called a comment section so you can comment on topics related to the vid, and thats what i did
Soyeon deserves that award and she is so talented
ive ate and left no crumbs, cry about it 🥺
As for BTS, it is expected. This is Melon Music Awards. Not "Opinion Music Awards". Among all boygroups, BTS had the best accumulative points in terms of charting songs. Bigbang did well too but they only release one song compared to BTS consistently charting not less than 5 songs this year
Dude exactlyyy only if they keep their jealousy aside
If BTS wanted, they could easily keep run BTS as the title track, but yet to come deserves more as it is only for armys not for breaking records or winning awards
we made yet to come 13. on hot100😏
Run BTS would have been the best title track the song is amazing and choreography is on another level and even they would have won best dance performance male award
0:59 gurl rlly said that kpop companies want you to be bald 😭
1:43 That's because it is a meaningful song? 💀
Meaningful ≠ Good
@@emeraldsustrai5343 Yeah no shit sherlock, plus I never said it was in the first place so idk what was the point of you putting that 💀
ive won because all their song charted so well domestically which is basically the foundation of most of these awards. from eleven, love dive to after like, all 3 dominated the charts and have great physical and digital sales as well as streams, specially on melon. they surpassed so many groups this year domestically that they even have better chart placement than veteran groups such as blackpink and bts
Yes, somebody with sense. The definition of melon music award that they were based on melon chart not on the basis of talent.
They even have the highest streams for a 4th gen song on Spotify this year....even their international success is amazing and not talked about enough. Across the board, Ive's success is consistent and fans of other gg groups hate it.
Finally the comment I was looking for 😂 people just can’t accept that Ive won they’re more angry than the groups that didn’t win
Finally somebody without an unbiased mindset. I really wanted BP to win but when Ive took it, it was understandable- they debuted and went viral and literally have the catchiest songs ever. They don’t have to have such a “MEANINGFUL” meaning behind the lyrics to be classified as a great song. Hey maybe for those mad, they can sing about global warming 💋
Girl 😂, the creator might delete your comment. He/she prefers hate comments towards Ive and didn’t know criteria on award shows exist so they get mad that their idols don’t win.
I'm not gonna tolerate any slander towards proof atp. I dont know why people can't get this. Proof was an anthology album. It wasn't "boring" to armys who were with them for so long. If you are not a fan you won't obviously get what the album means to the fans. So I don't think it was right to call it "boring". Everyone know that it was an anthology album. A farewell. It was a ballad for God's sake. And ofcourse armys are gonna get that award for the boys. Its the least we could do as a fandom for the boys after everything. You are implying as if having a large fandom vote to their ult is something wrong when it's not. What do you expect them to do?
Well yeah I agree. Instead of slandering BTS why not she stream,vote here fav artist. Yeah she expects disco song from BTS but when BTS release something like that she will criticize it as being generic well. She should get a life sorry I'm just mad at her slandering BTS.
PREACH!!!!!!
Literally so true, I'm so done with people saying proof is a bad album and shit like they don't know how much that album means to armys. They just gonna hate cuz their favs have less fans and can't win against BTS lmao.
Even bts average songs are better than other boy group songs. And I'm saying this not as an army but as a fan of music. Those boy group songs sucks. New girl groups debut are so much better than boy groups who bring nothing new on the table
Yet to come got a Grammy nomination..if bts doesn't deserve this award what other boy group deserve it then?
what a toxic kpop stan honestly...IVE & Soyeon DEFINITELY deserved their Rewards. Soyeon is def one of the best song writers in kpop and Love Dive is so good.
Excuse me if you don't know how much impact STAYC has globally, but they deserve the award. Its not just how fast and many the fans a kpop group have to be deserving of this award but take consideration the extensive growth and genuine love they receive from international fans. Especially when they are not on from a big company, it can be obvious.
not you saying bts didn’t deserve best male group 😭🫵🏽 they definitely deserved it considering the concept and tribute to their discography
they literally win it every year. give it to someone new for once
@@mimi-er3gj booooooo 🍅🍅🍅🍅
@@mimi-er3gj cry about it 😉😉😉😉
@@mimi-er3gj well they'll literally be inactive this year so good luck to y'all's groups during next year's awards. For this year, stay mad
@@mimi-er3gj if u want someone else to win best bg of the year then go vote
Saying bts doesn’t deserve best boy group out of those who were nominated when they released the best selling album of the year, ranked very high multiple times on all the billboard charts, held the busan concert, earned 3 Grammy nomination like two weeks ago, etc. is a wild thing to say
Edit: y’all replying saying the music they released was bad when you listen to noise music bgs all year, like people should take you seriously. The majority of the criteria for these award shows are numbers whether you like it or not. Maybe if y’all actually streamed the music you claim is “so much better” your groups would have won something. The MMA are literally based on the melon charts. Bts is literally the only boy group who charts on the top 10 of melon regularly. Y’all want boy groups to win who are struggling to charts on the top 100??
Louder!!!
Exactly!
Say it louder.
They need to include BTS in their opinions to have some relevancy in their minds. Ignoring is the best thing to do.
This happened only because they are popular . They literally had a very average or even below average year and if you actually move from your favs and try not to be toxic you'll see a better male group performance in 2022 definitely.
I was literally searching for a toxic army and hey i found more than one lol🤣🤣
2:40 no, but why does he sound like a Minecraft zombie… 💀
IU deserves ALL of her awards IU has worked hard for where she is right now and her skills are above all of ur faves ppl eat up her songs bc they are good NO matter what u say IU is gonna continue to be popular 🤭
Ive hasnt done anything to win the best female group? I'm sorry what? they have literally had the biggest debut in 4th gen, have won around 13-14 music show wins for EVERY song including their debut, their popularity in Korea is INSANE, their songs are absolutely amazing you literally cannot tell me that all those achievements arent enough for them to win the best female group. Love Dive is one of the best songs released by a kpop group and it receiving the soty is completely fair.
They just hate IVE. It's literally the summary of this bs video
Exactly right! They just mad that new jeans or Le sserafim didn’t get it 💀
List of everything IVE has done & their impact :
Here comes the Fraud Kakao's $|4v-3 everyone, keep defending the crime and justify Bullying, Slandering, Sajaegi, Buying Awards etc. Divers is so blinded by their fake plastic surgery beauty and a mid song that they didn't write themselves they forgot Honest music and Morality. They forgot how Kakao is forcing that 5100 positive news everyday while Slandering all of 4th gen girl group and other group just to raise IVFRAUD image. so glad FTC is investigating this, had they come faster this rigged show won't be aired at all
@@aiii399 lmao, just by u saying they are fake plastic surgeries made me stop reading. U seriously don't know anything
@@aiii399 can u give me a link?
i think stayc is rising globally for sure. their global fanbase and streams are amazing. and they didnt "flop" with all of their releases this year. run2u did really good and so did beautiful monster. while it wasnt as good as how asap or stereotype did, it doesnt mean that they necessarily flopped. and i think love dive definitely deserved soty as it did amazing in korea and internationally. and soyeon rightfully deserved best songwriter, you basing your opinion on two bad raps isnt quite factual. she has written so many great bsides for gidle and definitely deserves her flowers. and you saying proof is boring? baby probably only listened to the title track and dipped. it just sounded like you were just talking shit at this point.
Here comes the Fraud Kakao's $|4v-3 everyone keep defending the crime and justify Bullying, Slandering, Sajaegi, Buying Awards etc.
Agree! Stayc was so viral on tiktok too w ASAP
The author of this video post was making a couple of interesting points, but that stayc comment automatically made her sound like a hateful bitch
@@aiii399 i wasnt defending kakao i just said my opinion. i think love dive's soty award was well deserved but other than that, i definitely dont think they deserved to win best female artist or any of rhe other awards they got.
author just smoking something lmao
are u okay
Fr i think ive’s awards actually makes sense. Like both comebacks they had were such a bop along with their debut. They were always topping the chart and plus they had a lot of wins this year. As for new jeans, i love their music but i kinda get why they didn’t win. After all the girls literally just debuted, they didnt even had a comeback yet. I think just to get nominations w your debut album is something amazing already!!! I believe the future holds lots great achievements for them
Why can’t you just except them receiving awards. I thought I would agree with the video but the only thing I agreed with was hanni’s hair situation like it wasn’t the best. I’ve deserves it, they worked really hard and they got the most streams globally. Soyeon is a great song writer and she works extremely hard. NXDE wasn’t a flop either. StayC’s songs aren’t bad however they weren’t that famous globally. They still got many streams and their popularity did increase internationally even tho it wasn’t by much. BTS had a different style song this year so that’s why it doesn’t sound like a good song. It’s just a new genre for them that people may not like (ballad). Your whole channel is a hate channel towards everyone basically. If you gonna hate them so much then why watch all the videos, give them money, waste time making your videos then proceed to get more hate comments. What is the point. This is the first video I watched from you but now I’d rather watch people praising others. Don’t you have anything better to do? Does anything ever make you pleased?
Danggggg frrrrrrrrrr
Slayyy
Finally. I thought i was the only one to think that
Ikr
omg I thought Le Sserafim won any award 😭😭 their performance in MMA is outstanding for me compared to other groups though...
@Acchan oh okay, I didn't know that, thank you!
Ofcourse Kakao won't let them win since they are the one who Slandered heavily on Le SSerafim, but its okay they are going to jail soon
Who cares about MMA le sserafim is the best group of 2022.
? Cuz the award is not based on their performance on mma?
@@PPPclub I know... I just appreciate their performance in MMA compare to other groups who perform in MMA
You just sounds pressed tbh. Love Dive literally THAT SOTY. It was everywhere and the fact that it is released the same day as BigBang's comeback then managed to outpeak Still Life few weeks after released shows how Love Dive is loved by the public both Korean and International. It is almost a year since Love Dive is released, it is still Top 20 on the chart while Tomboy at number 50 even Eleven outpeaked (mind you Eleven was released on December 2021)
IVE won Best Female Group at Melon because they're simply owns Melon. 3 back to back gigantic hit with amazing album sales and they're literally the top group now. They're deserve it.
Now, they released a full album. It's literally IVE vs IVE as Kitsch and I AM is fight for that number 1. Don't be surprise if they're winning big again this year.
why u so mad lmao 💀
Proof wasn't boring lol. An anthology album. With a lot of meaning behind it.
"BTS won cause they're popular & have a big fanbase"
If y'all want your favs to win instead of BTS‚ please vote even harder. Ask other fandoms for help (kpoppies collectively voting against BTS is common nowadays) Hype your favs. Create more fans to increase the votes. Thankyou.
You are right. But these brainless visual Stans won't understand the meaning and importance of an anthology album
I just clicked randomly on this video as it was recommended and I already expected this 😭 like lmaoo vote fucking hard, we don't sleep and vote for them, some people who got "global awards" Are literally unknown but people will always keep talking about bts bitter freaks
Yet to come is for army's not for any casual listeners
@@seren5483 literally some unknown group won " global artists" but these bitter kpop stans will only question 5x grammy nominated rulers of this industry. It's like the category is only relevant if BTS is in it
@@moonchild7701 exactly, you see the pattern? Bts will be nominated for something like best group with 7 members and every kpop group will cry about how their favs deserved it more
“Is bc they’re so popular and have a fan base to vote for them” yeah there’s a reason they’re popular and them winning best male group is well deserved. Also best male group isn’t based on one comeback, it’s based on the group with the most artistic achievement overall not just 2022.
so we are just forgetting they could fart into a microphone and win a hundred prizes because theyre popular
@@bestnikistaa yes!
@@bestnikistaa which they will never do. cry about that!
@@ree6042 army try not to get mad over an opinion challenge
@@bestnikistaayour opinion is showing how bitter you are towards bts
IM HEAR JUST TO SAY IVE LOVE DIVE STILL CHARTING! SO YEAH THEYRE THE MOST DESERVING GROUP FOR THAT AWARD
IVE BEST FEMALE GROUP STAY MAD
Nah IU is the countries pride. She's amazing and deserves all the awards she gets 😭
Litteraly like they just mad there faves didnt win
@@memyheadandmind literally. Because if you would actually only care about talent you would vote for multiple group for different awards. But they always only voting their favs. Those award shows are meaningless everyone knows that 😭
@@soosanatv8236 even if it was for talent she would still win
@@memyheadandmind Exactly.
MMA gives awards based on their own charts aka melon charts. It's like korean billboard. So, they don't care about international success. if they did, JHope would've received many noms.
This is why Ive won, because they were very very impressive on those charts and just hit everywhere in korea. They also won the K-billboard awards rather than bp, because they had entered their too.
Same for BTS, even though it was an anthology album, it did better than most comebacks (KPOP or POP), both in Korea and worldwide.
PS: you saying BP winning best female group would have made sense cause they're popular when you called their album the worst cb, and then saying BTS winning didn't make sense doesn't add up.... at all!
Also, ytc is a ballad, it's supposed to be slow and mellow. and BTS doesn't make music for the bop factor or whatever. they make music for the sake of music. This is the reason why many of international people like them, why us non KPOP fans like them because their music is actually good unlike most other kpop groups. It's obvious most Kpop fans don't actually like music, it's just the dancing and hype. Which is what KPOP is about in the first place.
Acts like LYW, IU and BTS make actually good music, very non KPOP music (sometimes they might have very KPOP music as well, but most stuff is not) which is why you think it's boring. Which is also why the non KPOP fan, Korean gp listens to them! and this is why they win...
You really explained everything well, thank you 💜
Don't forget bigbang
Super girl you got that hype explained clearly 💜💜
thank you for explaining it perfectly… as it seems the creator of this vid contradicts herself 😄😅
Yes! TELL THEM!! Also the MMa just reminded me of Grammy and MTV
bts winning best male group isn’t crazy, it’s a fact, they are the best boy group. regardless of their popularity and fan base they are the best and no one can surpass them 🤭.
Say it louderrr🤭❤️
Damn this person is basically hating on literally all of these K-pop groups
Fun fact: according to Korea news, only 5 performance sang live (Enhypen, Monsta X, Lim young woong, melomance, 10cm)
All the other performers was using AR (pre recorded audio)
Well, BLACKPINK singing live in their concert and people complaining about their performance and stage presence. But now, when those idol trying their best to show the best performance, people still complaining bout it being recorded...
@@juliel9539 stop mentioning bp. They don't even attend in this award lmao, they are on tour right now. And well it's not complaining. The news just stating some facts they got. Not hating tho?
@@nanaa6322 Its my right to mention whoever it is.. Not complaining, just stating some facts? But we know whats your point dude...
maybe enhypen should’ve lipsynced i got a headache
That wasn't on korean news, it was on pannchoa. A frequent site visited by i-fans, pretty much just reddit 2.0
why are y'all crying every time bts gets an award? their songs always do better than any other boy groups' so if bts doesn't get it who would??? so cut the popularity bs. find a new reason to complain about or just shut up and focus on ggs cuz apparently you don't know much about boy groups lmao
FRRR THANK U😩🤌🏻✨
It is always about the "Huge fandom" like get over it already. Every time the boys win an award it is always about the Fandom, like seriously all they gotta do is vote for their favs (also group up with other fandoms that don't wanna see BTS wins to vote with like they usually does)🤣
They should continue crying, lmao. BTS’ fandom is bigger than 20 kpop fandoms combined
they always be giving the same reason every time as if their fandoms don't have any problems. It's like talking to a hypocrite about being toxic when they are the ones spreading it.
FR
Bro what is this 💀 stay mad that these amazing artists won
Fr she's js mad cuz her faves didn't win any awards like they care abt her ophions 😂😂 like stfu if ur faves didn't win but Ive did and soyeon is far more better then her at smt
BTS definitely deserves the awards💜
i dont think STAYC 'flopped' with any of their releases this year, like with BEAUTIFUL MONSTER and POPPY they just all slayed and deserved the award.
It’s flop a bit compared last year release
poppy ate and left no crumbs
Its decent.
they did so well with run 2 u why is everybody forgetting that
@@dzemjo run 2 you, streaotype, and asap are really good. But beautiful Monster is just ok.
For everyone saying this is a Korean award show and not an international and the awards are based on domestic popularity not global, I would check out the fan cams. On the official broadcast audience response was kind of filtered out but a handful of times the sound of cheering from the audience breaks through on Lesserafim’s performance. I watched audience recordings of each performance and honestly they had the loudest cheering section and was one of the only groups the audience attempted to do a fan chant for. I gotta say- I’ve’s performance was oddly quiet for their supposed popularity level. And to be honest I think the Korean public is harder on them then global audiences. For me the discomfort is from how there’s blatant favoritism on Starship’s part of not just I’ve but specifically some of their members. The neglect of Gael and Liz. Starship also has a very complicated past. But the last girl group to win was Twice…and I don’t think I’ve is at that level honestly. :/ I’m suspicious ngl
Starship is known for IVE and IVE is known for won young. Now, whether they win or not, won young is gonna get the credit.
How is having the loudest cheers relevant to popularity lmao. Bernie Sanders would be president if that were true
@@morphkogan8627 how is US politics related to Korean music award shows 💀
@@AnABSOLUTEBarbarian I was drawing an analogy. It doesn't have to be related. That's the point of an analogy. What I'm saying is the amount of cheers in a crowd is irrelevant to popularity
Love Dive was the biggest hit this year domestically, right next to Tomboy. If you'd look at the stats, you'd see it makes sense. Even kids are singing Love Dive at the playground but international fans are trying to act as though they know better
What you fail to realize is outside Korea they don't care about your opinions lol on their charting music artists. IVE apparently is really popular over there.
1:34 nah bro, I don’t agree at all. She worked really hard on nxde and it was literally so good why tf did it not win. The rap she wrote is tomboy was amazing aswell. If u think it’s that bad maybe u should go write the song yourself
Honestly, so offended once you said Nxde was bad and crap I feel anyone rarely ever talks about how female idols in the Kpop industry is overly sexualized and taken advantage of so often and just pushed under the rug like as if it’s normal. ):
No fr
I agree with them. the song was bad with good lyrics. that's the only reason why people liked it, because of its meaning.
Bro its terrible and noisy. Love dive is refreshing
@@enanano you can't really call any song objectively bad because there are some people who love it. I hated it at first but it really grew on me. I love it now. So because some people didn't like it, it doesn't make nxde a terrible song. It depends on people's taste.
@@NeverlandXidle I said my opinion.
I'm sorry but this is a miss, not even I am a stan of Ive but I hear lovedive trending everywhere. It's undeniable.
Like this is not nuance at all, where are the facts where is the research? I'm sorry but I don't agree with this aggressive approach
this whole vid is based off their opinions with zero consideration of the actual criteria. they pulling numbers out of their asses just to say a group doesn’t deserve awards like girl look at the numbers first they’re all there 😭
@@kit7463 exaclty and thats why I always check. They just sound so jealous. It's actually not nice to see
5:05 this is my principal when he comes in our class room
Soyeon deserved that award.
Couldn't be more wrong about STAYC. They released run2u, beautiful monster, and poppy this year, and all of them were successful. They've gained a lot more fans globally, especially after attending K-CON. Don't talk bad about them when they've had a great year. Not to mention, girlies are still rookies, so you can't expect them to be as polished and good as other girl groups. They deserve that award. Next.
IU won because her releases were successful and were super popular. K-Netizens eat her up because she releases good music. Yeah, she sticks to a certain style of music, but so do LESSERAFIM, IVE, even IDLE. Female Korean solo artists are nonexistent these days. There are plenty, but they never chart because their music is subpar. We should know by now that award shows are not based on quality of music, but how the public receives it. IU won fairly.
BTS earned their popularity and are the biggest artists in the world. Any category they're in, they are going to win, and rightfully so. The public eats every song up and they adore BTS. Next!
@I eat worms But they haven't. Their songs did great on the charts, run2u won 7 times at music shows, even beating Taeyeon. Beautiful monster got at least 2 wins. They had a Japanese debut which is crazy considering they're a 2 year old group. They went to K-CON. They attended award shows and won multiple awards. They have done everything but flop this year. Y'all throw that word around too much. If you want to talk about a group that flopped this year, maybe talk about kep1er or certain aespa songs.
@I eat worms You are so wrong, just you wait. No taste having worm eater.
Sooo well said...these people r just jeolous because their fav didn't win when chart score clearly showed who was gonna win...
Yes like for IU does the creator of the video even listen to her? does she know how she has helped many koreans and international fans heal from her soulful music? there's a reason behind it ehich she obviously doesn't know because she doesn't even listen to her
i'm hating the so called unpopular opinions people are creating online
cause hey its unpopular for a reason
i did agree w her on some topics but she lost me on the iu part.
seriously shows her lack of respect towards artists.
and the hardwork that's behind those glamorous moments-like she'll ever know
Never heard of stayc or MonstaX both are not Globalling enough to be called Global except a fraud
Love dive is amazing and BTS isn’t boring💀
As an army I agree that bts do get a lot of their awards because of how popular they are and sometimes yes they get awards that even we question how they did but just because you didn’t like the songs they put out this year doesn’t mean it’s boring cuz a lot of people obviously really really like them so basically they deserved to win best male group
lets remember all the other hits she wrote instead of naming one 1:37
This! And the fact they only mentioned the rap in tomboy when she wrote the whole song.. embarrassing
For you the boring yet to come got the grammy nomination so we don't care if you like it or not they deserves this award .
grammy is a joke lmao. that's how low army's standards are.
@@ae9581 well yeah its a joke but your favs can't even achieve that joke even in their dreams..
"grammy is a joke" yet all of you want to achieve it 😭
@@ae9581 bruh, Grammy is the highest award acheivemnt an artist can make. Even popularity wise BTS rule. Artistry wise they rule, Income wise they rule, and over 56% korean songs played on spotify are just BTS. Kid, they arent even playing the same game.
@@Random-qi3vv You better say it louder!!!!
best female group was based on digitals so its the groups chart performance. ive did good on many charts, so i dont get why people think they dont deserve it. 🤷♀
they are pressed because their fav group didn't win
mind you, idle got paks, raks and caks for both tomboy and nxde. ive didnt got any paks or caks for love dive. they got a rak for lodi but it was three months late.
@@KRNLOVER tomboy may have had more raks and paks but love dive is still top 10 on all korean music charts even until now. ive has longetivity, which means they accumulated more digital points over time.
@@KRNLOVER love dive got rak after like got paks
Am I the only one who loved soyeons verse in tomboy? The message was awesome, and literally ONE of the lines was cringy and ppl ran with it. But how did one 30s rap suddenly make YEARS of amazing rapping worthless? PEOPLE ARE SO FUCKING FICKLE
Yes your the only one, her hwa rap was one of her best ones
aint no way u have so much confidence to say all of this💀 Soyeon totally deserved that award and dont act like NXDE isnt meaningfull because it is, IVE has had an huge impact on the kpop industry so stay mad hunny, like dang u always gotta say smth bad if it aint ur favs 💀
I agree with some of this, but NXDE is an amazing song!! I get why some people don't like it but it's actually so good and Soyeon deserves her award. Tomboy should have definitely won SOTY and Lesserafim should have won ROTY, and Seulgi should have won female artist of the year. but oh well, when are these awards ever correct lol
it will never be you know Melon is owned by Kakao, Kakao owned 59% of Starship, the Owner is literally the same person. So the favor will always be to their fraud group, looking forward to see them in jail
Nxdu realise just a month ago it will nominate for next year
@@aiii399 lmao ive also win at mama too what is your excuse now
@@aiii399 And IVE win on MAMA too. What now?
Same! I didn't understand the creator's hate against Nxde? My musical taste must be broken then 😌 cuz I like Nxde more than Tomboy. I am not a stan, just a casual listener and N×de is one of he most repeated tracks for me last month
By the way BTS deserved to be the best male group .Their comeback was not BORING at all(in my opinion)rather it was beautiful and full of emotions they have put in for armies(& we should not say their hardwork as BORING)
This is such an army response 😂 its always “they worked hard so we shouldn’t say its boring”
@@gummynoodles9036 not every comeback is going to consist of the eyeliner and harness concept.
@@jenniferlopez8890 lmaoooo exactly 🤣
@@jenniferlopez8890 how is that related? And they did only one harness concept in their whole career....
@@gummynoodles9036 I’m comparing bc a lot of people clearly only think it’s a good comeback when those are the types of concepts kpop group put out. But y’all want to call a meaningful comeback “boring”.
YET TO COME IS A MASTERPIECE!
this is so hateful 😭😭 what’s the point in using such ridiculous words.
what’s wrong with y’all!? Love Dive is not only most streamed 4th gen group song on Spotify also most 6th streamed k-pop song. All are sayin’ it is unfair cuz you “babies” didn’t win.
I agree! I actually never defend IVE as I'm not currently stanning them (don't get me wrong) but I srsly got so mad when she said that about Love Dive.
ITS A MASTERPIECE
I believe everyone who got awards deserved them thats all i wanted to say have a great rest of your day everybody. 😘
girl for bts it's an anthology album, what did u want them to release?? 40 new songs ? be fr😭😭😭😭 if ur fave released one, you would've ate it up. the show is a mess/rigged until ur fave wins or what?