I Want To Be A K-Pop Idol: Can Intensive Bootcamps In South Korea Help? - Part 2 | Talking Point
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- K-pop bootcamps organised by foreign-based companies have become popular in Korea. Many promise participants an authentic taste of idol life and a shot at getting casted as trainees. Munah Bagharib follows 14-year-old Singaporean idol hopeful, Kade, as she embarks on a 10-day intensive bootcamp in South Korea. Can bootcamps really score participants a contract with major K-pop labels? Or are they simply a marketing gimmick?
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K-Pop Part 1: • $10,000 A Year On K-Po...
0:00 Previously on Part 1
01:07 Intensive 10-day K-pop bootcamp in South Korea
03:15 How rigorous is bootcamp training?
09:17 Director judges their performances after 14 hour training days
12:11 What K-pop casting agents look out for
16:18 Kade's father's concerns about her K-pop dreams
18:30 Will Kade make the cut?
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What's ironic is a lot of idols who are in the biggest groups were scouted and passed auditions despite having no singing or dancing abilities. I think becoming a trainee is sheer luck/happenstance and then it's afterwards the sheer hard graft starts.
This is nonesense. All BTS members were already deep in dancing/singing before being scouted. Same w Blackpink members
@@kimckawaI said a lot of idols, not all idols...
Jin had nothing to do with music prior to being scouted... @@kimckawa
beauty matters a lot obviously. you can teach singing dancing, but can't teach beautiful
Yeah NCT taeyong comes to mind. He turned out to be an amazing singer though.
After seeing too many underaged idols’ parents letting their kids debut at very very young age, I am very satisfied with Kade’s father’s response.
Now that I’m older, do wish idols should at least graduate high school before being a trainee / debuting. I wish 18+ isn’t old enough to start. Nowadays kpop company started recruiting kids as young as 8, which is crazy.
unfortunately 18 is most of the agency's cut off age for auditions and the older you are, the harder you get in because they tempt to learn slower and agency want him or her to be ready to debut before trainee turn 20.
@@user-hy3xb1vy7d if you know KPOP; Jessica Jung/Krystal Jung of Girls Generation and (f)x of SM and three members of TWICE Dahyun/Chaeyong/Tzuyu did attend High School as trainees and IDOLS.... 3 TWICE were attending Hanlim Multi Art School or other Art High School which most IDOLS did finish.. actually a lot graduated high school.. while practising and having monthly vocal/dance assessments while going to High Schools.. to name all the idols.. the list is long...
@@RoyLimisAw3s0meIt is also a known fact that these idols do not attend classes frequently. There simply isnt enough time in their packed schedule to do so. And come on, these are Art Schools, not the traditional academic schools which requires a lot more studying.
@@kelvinkwok5305 high school is still high school;
@RoyLimisAw3s0me most idols dont even attend regular classes nor the activities
the point is to let them live like a normal kid and attend classes and work with other children
all of these idols from hanlim only join it for formality
The father response is a classic. Reluctant, but wife persuade him to let her go boot camp.
Henpecked
If she got the chance, I have no idea why her Dad will reject but sent her to the boot camp lol
@@KitLingLau2009 He ddn't want to at all. That was the compromise he tolerated
@@KitLingLau2009There's alot of abuse in that industry. Especially w/ creepy men preying on young girls. I feel bad for her tho. If she has dreams instead of shutting them down he should keep the lines of communication open and step in if she's ever in a bad situation.
Wife is literally projecting her life goals to her daughter
2.5k just for this bootcamp? Kade is very much loved by her parents! Back then my parents don't even want to pay for my local university fees when they disapprove of the course of study, because to them it is not "technical" or "specialised" enough for them.
If you are just enjoying yourself in uni, instead of it being your finanical investment, makes sense that your parents don't wanna pay for your hobby, right?
@@John_Smith_86 last I checked a degree in Marketing didn't count as a hobby considering I didn't do it in my leisure time or for pleasure :(
@@wehcd Yes, that is a valid degree.
Maybe their funds are constrainted though, or you had other siblings
2.5k is reasonable though. One trip overseas, two concert tickets, one year worth of Ang pao, etc. I have seen many 2 days conference cost more for some shady business advice that easily found online.
?? 2.5k is much cheaper than average kpop bootcamps..
These people still don't understand. You can pay companies to train you, to give you a shot but likely from the first day they already know if there are gonna put you on a team or not. Besides even with the slight chance that they do, the public still has to like you. Some people get the easier way in life to make big money but the incredibly high majority don't.
thats why for most its just a dream.... also need to have $$ to attend all these classes and fly overseas
Yeah the biggest names of K-pop became idols by chance
They’ll pick someone random off the street that they can mold to their liking before taking someone who’s already been training for 12 years
For example: rose in black pink, Felix from stray kids
@@babylips00 afaik rosé auditioned to be a kpop idol and not streetcasted, she then flew from aus to korea even though her dad didn't approve. But yeah felix was streetcasted.
@@VermontConnectionwas he? i didn’t know that 😭
@@babylips00don't spread misinformation, rose didn't wanted to be a kpop idol but her dad convinced her
I know her parents think they are doing her a favor but getting a call from a big company is pretty much a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity. It would be a shame to watch them prematurely cut her wings. I understand their concern but there most likely won't be that opportunity waiting for her once she reaches 21 as her dad wanted. I think if she gets through, they should really discuss it together. Some people's strengths are not all in academics and it's unfair to value it over everything else imo.
This. In seeking to protect her he is killing what is essentially her dream… I’ve known kids who’ve cut off their parents for way less than that.
Perhaps it’s better to arm her with the skills to handle the struggles than to insulate her completely.
Your 100 percent right I see both sides, I feel like getting a call from a big company can be a curse in disguise but being a kpop idol is a job that you can only go for when your young, I don’t think her parents realize that tho
I can understand her father. But 21 , don't bother at that age to start training.
I 100% agree. Why pay and let her go just to say no if she gets in. You’re crushing her dream if she make it or letting her know you don’t think she’ll make it by letting her go.
@@jonyq Kpop truly is a dream though.... You have a higher chance of becoming a CEO of a country than debuting as an idol (especially a successful one). Not to mention how unhealthy the trainee life alone is. Yes, if you're older than 18 your chances of making it through any audition are really really slim but I'd say developing eating disorders, getting depression and having to deal with the insane amount of hate you receive once you debut is not worth it. She and so so many trainees are way too young to face any of this. Getting proper education is much more important so she has much more freedom to choose a career later on. If you become a trainee at 12-13 (if not younger) and don't debut then you're literally messed up for life.
I am definitely rooting for Kade! She got the idol look and the talent, and she has also put in a lot of work! I believe she will go far! Keep pushing! ✊✊✊
anyone has an idol look
Anyone can be made to look like an idol. She’s better off staying away from the industry. You have no idea how depressing it is
I hope that even if she doesn't become a K-pop idol, she would have a chance to do something she loves with her talent.
@@holly-zw1bfno anyone don’t have the idol look so don’t be dense cause you know what they mean and kpop is heavily focused on visuals these days
@@lovelydiva06 don't be dense? i think having beauty standards is bad
I’m happy with Kades father giving his answer, while still providing his daughter the experience to attend idol bootcamp to achieve a part of her dream while focusing on her studies.
Out of everyone in that room, Kade is the only one BARELY who might have a shot. 1:23 The girl with tattoos and pink hair is Absolutely not making it, neither is practically any person in 10:07. No hate but none of them have visual so scouters won't even consider them for a second
NGL the producer had the time of her life in Korea. free vacation and she got free dance lessons and had a ton of fun. huge W to the producer lady.
I can see Kade in a KPop group. She kind of looks like Izone's Minju, imo. She has nice lines when she dances. And her voice sounds sweet. I wish her all the best. 😊
Make sense. She not just resembles Kim Minju, she seems to resemble Lee Youngseo a bit whenever she smiles
OMG I was gonna say the same thing
Yeah she's got the looks. Many other kids in the bootcamp do not have idol potential though
I got contacted by YG when I auditioned for them online, I was 15 back then. I'm 25 now and thinking back, it was definitely the best decision for me to reject them and gave up on dreaming to be a Kpop idol. I thought a lot about my freedom, what I really wanted to do with my life thus it wouldn't be guaranteed that I would have passed the later in person auditions or even debuting. Being a Kpop idol is not an easy job, it takes a lot of passion and dedication from a person for every single day. Definitely not for me.
Good luck to whoever dreams or trying to pursuit their dream of being a Kpop idol.
BM have members trained during 2018. So many left at YGE
LOL😂
yes being a kpop idol is definitely not easy some people see very little of kpop idol life and think their life is so easy but no in reality it really very difficult and tiring and being able to debut is not easy as well in YG they debut very talented and skilled people that train for very long minimum was 1 year and longest probably at least 4-6 years it takes dedication and patience and commitment to train that long and be able to debut especially since you have to train every single day for monthly evaluations have to know how to sing rap dance and have good facial expressions and have confidence and be able to handle being criticised to be able to get better ive watched babymonster YG new gg evaluations for their debut and it definitely did not seem easy at all all yg artists worked hard for their success which is so so amazing
Idol life is strenuous and stressful. It’s no joke for sure. You have to be mentally tough
I call bullshxt 😂
I'm rooting for Kade, Jiayous girl!!! She definitely put in a lot of hard work to get to where she is right now. I'm sure she'll have her opportunity one day :)
Stay healthy and keep going~
same here pal. I notice she stood out among the children we see in the eps so far. I wish to see her to stand on stage one day, hope for her to do the best she can
David Yong is a great guy and will be a tremendous advocate for aspiring Singaporean entertainers. As he mentions, there are no Singapore companies that have the "right" connections to support the growth of these budding talents. He was on another Korean program, and he has big plans for Korea and K-Pop. I wish him the best of luck!!!
💯 agree
Kade's dad has very valid concerns, with all the suicides happening. Aja aja fighting Kade! Have the grit to pursue your dreams, continously improve and if its really for you, you will find a way to make your dreams to reality
that's like the father blocking his son from going to the NBA because of all the mass shootings in America.
@@giselleakgae4100it’s not just suicide but also mental health problems in general, possible eating disorders, having adult responsibilities despite only being a child, people sexualising them, it really sucks
@@imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs This can happen in any profession.
@@idontknow9357 for many professions the people are adults tho
@@imgonnaputsomedirtinureyedabs It doesn't change, it can happen to anyone and anywhere
The entertainment industry is a gamble. Even if you get in, staying in is a different story. When a Korean agency picked the final 7 of what's to become the first all-Filipino boy group to debut in Korea, Hori7on, the boys already knew that it was going to be a blood bath from then on, from what kind of training they experienced from Korean coaches. In an interview, Reyster even somewhat expressed the thought of giving up but that his fellow members are the ones anchoring him to stay strong. It gave us SEA K-pop fans a glimpse of what it's like to fight for a place and what it takes to keep that place theirs. I really do hope more Southeast Asians can make it to the K-pop scene. I believe it's a matter of giving it your all and showing that you're hungrier than anyone else. It's not going to be easy but given that K-pop popularity is only growing globally, anyone can have the chance as long as you're willing to climb to the standards that their predecessors in the industry had set.
Last time I checked Lisa/Bp is one of the biggest K-pop global star. Now she’s supposedly dating billionaire son of Chanel! So it’s already proven SEA idols can succeed and thrive under K-pop platform
there is also the new filipino members of unis, gehlee and elisia! they are amazing and i wish them the best
keep going kade ❤ it seems so tough to break into the industry, with visa and experience differences :” but pursue ur dreams!
YOU ARE NOT GOING TO DEBUT. GET OVER IT.
OPEN YOUR LEGS TO SOME BILLIONAIRES (I BET THEY DID)
Kade has the looks of a potential visual of a group. These top tier companies turn normal looking people into superstars.
i feel like shes gonna make it she has so much potential😭
I'm so proud of munah cover this segment ❤ I like her proffesional vibes here
life is hard. its good for these youngster to challenge themselves to find who they are & what are their purpose in life.
That's the only best thing this camps will teach you. That life ain't easy. 💯💯🤔🤔🤔
She should definitely go. She can continue her study in Korea. This kind of opportunity comes only once. Sure it won't be easy but diamonds are made from extreme pressure
Great work Munah & team…just a suggestion…
Please follow up with part 3 to show who were the successful selected participants and follow up with Kade and see what was in the successful participant and how she can follow through & not give up …
Something that all participants need to remember is that there was a pop music market way before Kpop & even though Kpop is hugely successful in terms of visibility, it only contributes something like only 6-8% of the global recorded music markets
So there is still life & many other options & ways of breaking into the pop music markets aside from Kpop…
Kpop is hugely successful & popular but at the same time it’s very manufactured, predictable & routine which is good & works for them but that’s definitely not the only way …
( just my opinion, not meant to trigger any die hard fans of kpop & all the artists from Rain, Wondergirls, Psy, BTS, Blackpink & all the many other artists in between…who all worked so hard to get to where they are & that’s why they have the biggest fan bases that the artists rightfully deserve …
Asian artists to the fore….go Asia …
“Manufactured” comes w being boy/girl bands. It’s also this manufactured formulaic structure that allows anyone Korean/or not be part of K-pop industry
I know nothing about kpop but this kind of effort defo applies to all other niches with competition involved. Passion pushes people to exert a lot of effort and sacrifice even though they're aware of the fact that not all hopefuls will get to reach the top. But most often than not, all the skills and lessons that we gain from these experiences are what launches us to do what we are truly meant for.
I'm glad to see this mentioned! It's easy to 'other' kpop from a western or really any other perspective. But people forget about Dance Moms and Ballroom kids and beauty pageants on TLC. And thats not even touching on olympic sports. Parents everywhere push their kids to the extreme to get ahead. I think extra-curriculars and following your dreams should be encouraged, but parents need to draw the line at extreme beauty standards that lead to plastic surgery or extreme diets at a young age. And that doesn't often happen in any of these spaces.
Why is everything from south korea so intense , even school sounds less fun
In Korea everyone desperately study hard, everyone works hard and additionally this society requires you to have more than being enough. So Why we call Korea Hell Chosen. If you want to become a singer, you need to dance almost like dance Choreographer, you need to sing like professional main singer with skinny body and good face. I love my country as one Korean but I don't like the system. If you want to understand those intense society, I think Korea history helps you to get better understanding. Even though HongKong situation is not very good, I am afraid of going back to Korea....
You hv to know Korean history from turn of the century- 50yrs Japanese colonization, attempted erasure of Korean language/culture, Korean War (millions of deaths), North/South territorial/ideological divide etc etc…traumas after traumas! It’s coattails of survival paranoia, revenge, overcompensating for deep rooted inferior complexes from past traumas. Similar to Jewish people after the holocaust. Net effect Koreans excel everything they do!
When has school ever been fun though? I do agree that sk needs to calm down on the kids cause they are running out of koreans for the next generation with the low birth rates. They don't have time to sleep and the bullying is crazy.
Excuse me, in what country is school fun?
Korea is a competitive society and you should try hard at everything to survive.
That Munah, gets in on the action is flipping! Way to go Munah! Il'm sure it wasn't easy for you but you're amazing too. 🤩
I mean don’t we do this for sports? Start training young and send them to trainings and boot camps if they want to be pros…
Being an entertainer is just as strenuous a career as an athlete and even more to learn since public image is slightly more important. How to dance and sing is important, but how to interview or host a game show… this has to be learned and can be trained for like anything else
@@P.90.603Not true. Many idols still sing way past 30 like Rain and Boa, or start their own company like Jyp who also trains Kpop trainees.
Most become solo singers if they are popular enough.
@@P.90.603 you spend lots of money to train for sports. I’m not sure if you’re aware that many training facilities and coaching, workshops, camps, and classes are NOT free
@@P.90.603 also you’re loud and unaware that kpop stars also get education and if they study further, they can be lawyers dentists, whatever else you listed lol. Comment on things you are sure you know about and the people you’re talking with do not know more about the subject than you do
Kpop is probably worse than being an athlete. If u are a good u can have chances of joining a team. But in Kpop you have to be perfect and still no guarantee of success or anything. 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️💯💯🤔🤔🤔
Agree
K pop training will always look extreme from the outside, but the last scene of fans waiting in the freezing cold just for a 1 second glimpse of their idols is truly captivating.
진짜 치열하다.. 근데 어린나이에 저렇게 확고한 꿈을 가지고 도전하는 모습이 멋지다... 뭐가됐든 후회없이 꿈을 향해 노력하는 모습은 존경스러움
Thanks for those two videos they were really well made and interesting 😊👍
The showcase was just like a wholeass highschool performance 💀
Yup. It makes me appreciate the idols more now actually. The things they go thru to become a full-fledged one is extremely small and dire
Im invested to know if Kade did make the cut! is there another part to this? having followed way too many kpop grps i think she's got what most companies look out for. it'll be quite a mission to convince her parents tho!
I can understand the dad, he wants to protect his daughter. I do hope he will allow her to pursue her dream in the end.
It's hard for foreigner to be a kpop idol, so far the main selling point about kpop in my own eyes is about Korean people.
22:48 That's Yuqi of G-Idle at KBS MusicBank
Yuqi has a nice body
Wish her the best Kade! And good luck for all kids fighting for auditions, it is very tough dancing camps, but i wish you all to be successful in life even you might fail for auditions, i do really admire of you all children having passion and disclipine to follow their dreams! ❤❤❤
PLS have a continued episode
kade needs to debut oml, she's a whole package
REALEST OMG
Kade seems like a lovely and talented young lady, I hope her future goes smoothly for whatever is the right path for her
Kade has such a nice voice!!
Kade reminds me of Kim Minju - Korean actress and singer (previously Izone member)
I can see her in a kpop group in the coming future
Good Advice David Yang
kade is really pretty she definetly fits the beaty standards for idols
I am so excited about this second episode since I love Kpop. i wish all the children the best for their future. It is not easy to embark on this path nowadays. fighting
Kade is so pretty! Hopefully she becomes an idol ❤
22:50 Mentions TXT, IVE and aespa. Shows Yuqi from (G)I-DLE.
At the end of the day I feel they base their decision mainly on looks :/ &sometimes even with talent and looks some don’t make it in the industry 🫤
kade is so cute :'( i hope she can get what she wants in any career
What an excellent report. CNA is an indispensable media outlet.
Such amazing discipline
And u don’t give up on commenting in youtube. U disapear recently.
fighting kade!! deifnitely got the potential!!
Kade's visuals are insane, espercially when considering she doesnt even have makeup on and acne is clear, and is still young. She def has the visuals that can carry her to success
The father is so right ❤ to protect his daughter !!
Singapore did have three representatives who were Kpop idols - Tasha, Ferlynn and the last one which i cannot remember the name of so suddenly.
Cheris
They all failed miserably. I think Kate would surpass them all
Rooting for Kade!! She's working sooo hard, even doing well in her exams just to be able to experience a boot camp that has a 5% chance of getting her into a private audition 😢
She is cute. Of course I am not a professional evaluator but as a Kpop fan for a long time. I immediately like her. I could eventually see her as a future Kpop star. I hope the best for her. However if she wait until 21 to pursue it then I think it would be too late for her.
There were 2 singaporean kpop idols what... Tasha and Ferlyn from SKARF years back... Too bad the band disbanded quite fast, really liked them
Kade is so pretty ❤
I hope Kade is let to follow her dreams if she's selected, even though her parents worries are very reasonable. She's beautiful, bright and talented. Best of luck to her!
For ppl w/ talent this is a good way to hone it. I would not recommend it for anyone just starting out. However, this is a light scam, almost like the small colleges made just to attract international students.
It is a scam. 💯💯💯
as a person who is attending a kpop bootcamp in november this is terrifying
zayum this girl has the potential her singing and dancing is nice like fr
Imagine putting yourself through all this torture for probably nothing
I would run a boot camp...$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Isn't that just every boot camp ever lol
@@lolololo-cx4dp i mean, i bet most of them aren't even serious about it. I don't wanna be mean, but you see people who are fat and not in shape, people who are not asian (won't even be considered), and people who are just ugly. when it comes to k pop, its all about looks. everything else can be trained.
@@Drop_The_Mic oh yeah absolutely agree on that
if you dont look the part, you are already out.
When you see new groups, how polished they are, they're really not new given the years of hard training they've undergone.
Kade gives off tzuyu vibes
I sent in an audition tape to SM Entertainment when I was 13……..in 2000 😅 sang S.E.S song Dreams Come True. I’m glad I sent the only original because I think it’s very embarrassing tape probably. Back then K-Pop was basically only for Koreans though, things were different then.
Waiting for the next Give me one time baby chapacha baby.
her dads opinion is sososo valid.
13:57 Isn't she a trainer from JYP? I think I saw her from nizi project.
She was also in A2K. Definitely a JYP trainer
I have a CO worker who's really into kpop especially the girl groups. I asked him what he loves about it and he keep saying the same stuff that they're talented and how great the songs are...I just said. You know how to tell if it's actually good music or not? Think about your favorite group and instead of them being young beautiful girls, its a group of 50 year old aunties singing and dancing these songs, would you still be interested? His face changed and his shoulders dropped..."well No"
LMAOOO so true xD if you actually love the SONGS, you would love hearing them sung by anyone with talent, no matter gender or age. I agree... for some people, the cute sexy girls really adds to making the songs "nice" to listen to xD
Kpop has always been about selling the idols with parasocialing and everything. It was never about the music or the concept. Which I why I like Kpop groups that come out of Modhaus as they're the only company that really prioritizes concept and music. They do sell the idol as well since it's Kpop but that's not the main thing they prioritize.
Most singers are good looking even in the west leh lol Good music or not is just personal preference. Don't need to be an expert to know.
this make me laugh as someone who does enjoy songs by "old people". shout out to mick jagger, i don't think i can really recall how he looks. and genuine kpop bops like brave girls' "after we ride" would sound amazing whoever sings it.
That's right. Just beauty and no talent. 💯💯💯💯
Being a dancer is not easy, trust me
i trust you maximum bro
This makes me think of ATEEZ's Yeosang. His parents were not supportive, but they did say he could train as long as he kept up in school (I think it was a special science/tech school). He said he studied until 10 or 11 at night and then did training. I can't imagine how hard it must've been to pull that off. But I do think it's important that trainees have a back up plan because noone can see the future.
People need to understand the reality of being a famous Kpop idol is like winning the lottery. You have a much better chance at simply becoming a decent famous youtuber with your kpop dance training, and just make a vlog about trying on clothes, doing some fitness workouts, and showing off your youth and beauty and you'll make plenty of money. 0.00001% you will be like Blackpink. 30-40% chance you can become a famous social media influencer. There are plenty of girls out there who just try on clothes in front of a camera and make $100,000K a month.
together with mainstay Kpop idols such as Koreans, Japanese, Chinese, And some Taiwanese and Thais( coz of Lisa of Black Pink), Filipinos now are the next wave of KPOP idols!🙂
I agree. Next LaLisa will be Filipina
I agree. But Filipina got no invitation from Thai TV audition show because Thais did not want no Filipina in their group.
@@sinnopal1 Its because Filipinas are way too extremely talented once they compete in any KPOP Survival Show. they’ll dominate and become newly born top tier KPOP idol such as Sophia Laforteza of Dream Academy and Elisia, Gehlee Dangca, Belle of Signature of Universe ticket! L🤣l
Mostly likely selling Pop soda on the streets. 💯💯🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️ Korean standards of beauty are too rigid. 🤔
@@sinnopal1 Thai TV Audition? It's not popular in Philippines, so I'm not surprised no Filipino is included.
I need part 3 asap
Got part 3?
didn't know being just a trainee is soo expensive , no wonder y they said most kpop idols came from a rich or average family..
Im pretty sure she will one day debut
If you want your kids to learn discipline and high standards, send them to kpop bootcamp
MY MOM WONT SEND ME AND I WANNA BE AN IDOL SO BAD
@@bobateaworld4211Make your own money pay for it and go
that bootcamp studio's place was produce 101 series filming site lol
i hear all the doubters with questions... i have three boys that train hockey 7 days a week wanting to be the best... i know it may be a dream, but atlest they have one and not hanging out and smoking pot......i totally love kades answer. this is an experience of her life. back in my day, becoming an entertainer in asia was a nono unlike western countries...so we have come along way.. BTW, this child entertainment business started in north america...
21! Dad sorry there is no hope of debuting at that age
Irene made the debut at 23. And She did it with SM, arguably the most difficult and prestigious Kpop company.
@@sinnopal1 its definitely possible but nowadays… the odds are not in their favor.
14:54 Moonbyul!!!!! ❤❤❤
SL studio seems to have lots of ive fans!!! baddie, off the record and I AM??
Kade is very talented
But now I’m so curious about Kade, I wanna know what happens next. And of course she’ll be beautiful she is now!
The only company in Korea who manage better worktime for trainee is Antenna. Their trainee can go home everyday and still getting paid. Bcos only them who build their trainee to become song writer, producer or composer. Not just an idols...
Cool dance moves
I want to join it where can i find it
Kade reminds me of Haerin of NewJeans, sometimes your similarity with another idol can make you stand out !!!
Imagine crumping in tears and dancing your heart out in front of judges because your life depends on it so you can be a little bit more popular than other people.
All these people will become a puppet of the industry even if they succeed. The real artists are the ones who can make their own music and dance to their own song.
Such narrow definition of artist. Didn’t famous Steve Jobs of Apple say “great artist steal”…in the real world great artists are ones that know how to sell- image, products, stories etc.. to the masses. Your quaint definition of artists don’t exist anymore or still live in someone’s basement
@@kimckawa didn't Sun Tzu said "to be a great artist you must be the artist?"
I don't think you understand that some of these kpop groups aren't writing their own songs and doing their own dances. They are literally trained and given songs to sing and be a product of entertainment by the agency. They will be a beneficiary to the agency. Their life will revolve on the agencies agendas and not their personal.
The artists that I mention are the only ones that are super successful. They are unique individuals that have true creativity.
@@ximonwhhatt3796 Actually I am very familiar w K-pop system. Sure most don’t write/choreo their music cuz they’re main role is essentially of performers/entertainers. There are exceptions like BTS, Bigbang, Psy etc which write produce own music. But just cuz idols are not writing own music don’t mean there’s no artistry in the production. Obviously somebody has to write the songs and create chereos for them so artists are involved behind the scene. Western “artists” aren’t that much different. Most of the time they’re singing someone else songs and dancing to hired chereos as well. The value of K-pop in global stage is that it gives visibility to Asian music/culture/people while creating pan-Asian experiences. Just as these Singaporean kids grown up listening to kpop and now aspiring to be one. K-pop platform gives them that opportunity to potentially be global star in a heavily Western dominated field.
Puppets, aren't we all.
So called singer-songwriters of the past are NOT talented at all. These anglo-american whitemen were just creatures of their times. BTS, G-Idle, IVE are more talented (and better looking) than Beetles, Rolling Stone and etc.
мне вот интересно на что надеяться люди с очень не подходящей для айдолов внешностью когда идут
туда?
даже если такие как они дебютируют, то получат только хейт а потом забросят
I wonder why there isn't a music industry in this country creating an idol group and targeting the international market
Way to go kade! Jiayouu
She definitely has kpop qualities. Good luck!
Only dumb people dream to be a k-idol
I'm Korean. I'm curious that why do they want to debut in Korea? I think Kpop is nothing more than music with difficult dance moves. Couldn't they debut in own country?
You actually need a great voice and an interesting personality if you want to debut in any other entertainment industry than kpop (and jpop idol industry) and a great voice is innate, and an interesting personality have to be cultivated from young living a less than desirable childhood. In kpop, you are good enough if you know how to dance and have a flat, but safe, personality.
Is there any famous American musician not mired in controversies, living large and doing recreational drugs? It is almost compulsory just for the public to remember them. But look at these kids. They live in the straight and narrow, they can't hack it in the normal entertainment scene.
kpop is widely known around the world, so compared to debuting in their own country, there would be a higher chance of them becoming well known/famous by debuting in the kpop industry. how many people around the world know artistes from other countries compared to those that know kpop idols? even though debuting in kpop doesn't guarantee that you'll become popular/well known, it definitely gives you an edge above debuting elsewhere.
@@hottestahgastayonce3850 I see. they choose Korea because they want to be loved by many people around the world. I was just wondering if foreigners see any other charms in our country lol
To be honest, I feel like Korea is already a pretty competitive and cutthroat society. I don't like that K-pop, which is so focused on competition from really young age, is the culture that represents Korea.
@@user-bg1bo9wq6g i guess they start by liking kpop, and are inspired to be like their idols. Or, they may have a special liking for performing/being on stage. I doubt they go to korea just because they have a special liking for the country itself, most likely because it is one of the better places to debut due to kpop influence:)
K-pop is global. Groups like BTS, Blackpink is as famous and recognizable as Western artists like Taylor swift, Weeknds etc. Also kpop is less less Korean nowadays w idols from all around the world. In 10yrs, Korean makeup will be less than 50% of K-pop idols
Thank you very much for making this video😊
I am an Indian i am in confuce with what happen after become a kpop idol😊
I don't have any dreams to debut as an idol but I would love to follow a bootcamp like this just for fun~
Most of them won't make it just because they are not Korean. That's how it works few pass their filter and only one got to the top of the top Lisa. However has faced racism from the company, the fans and the knetizens
None sense! EXO Chinese members were highly successful along w 3 Japanese 1 Taiwanese members from TWICE. Stop pushing self victimization narrative
@@kimckawaBecause they are still Asian. They won't debut completely white people. Same for black people. There are a few idols out there who are half white and half Asian.
Yeah there is the group Black Swan, but they're not super succesful and the only exception.
@@raiinzyy I was responding to original post claiming you hv to be Korean to be successful. Your point is moot cuz there’s already Black, White, Latina K-pop idols. Then you hv global groups such as VCHA, Kateye debuting consisting mostly non Asian members.
@@kimckawa So why include VCHA and Kateye? They're American groups. They're not KPOP. They're intended for global audience.
@@raiinzyy Did you purposely missed me stating there’s already Black/White/Latina K-pop idols? VCHA is w JYP and Katseye w Hybe. They’re not American groups
Most of these kids are being exploited for their money and it's unfortunate. 95% of these kids in the room are immediately disqualified from the beginning for various reasons and are only strung along for the lesson fees. Especially these kids that aren't Asian. Sadly they think they can be Kpop stars but it's fundamentally impossible. Kpop is Kpop because Korean people or Korean passing people are the idols, nobody wants to see a white, black, hispanic, etc person trying to sing/rap in Korean and dance in the context of this music genre. It's been tried a few times before and failed every time. If they want to be in the music industry they should do it but not fixate on being Kpop idols because it becomes something different afterwards. You have to be born a certain way to become a Kpop idol and that's just reality people have to face. It's not a bad thing or a good thing it's just a thing.