Hey Sam! Interesting that low nitrogen fall fertilizers are common in Sweden, when it’s no where to be found here i Denmark. I’ve managed to find only a single supplier of an NPK 5-3-20 fertilizer, but is ridiculously priced and so is the shipping. Oh well, might grab a few bags for Florovit next time I visit Sweden. Keep the content flowing!
Hey dude, wow I would have guessed you had pretty much the same stuff there. Well I do go to Denmark for work a couple of times a month, but I think checking in 25kg of fertilizer for you might raise some questions at the airport, especially with my beard and dark tone haha
Always great to see how some practices are different in other parts of the world. I'm doing the nitrogen blitz, didn't see much difference on spring this year. Next spring ill make a decision if il keep doing it.
I missed my fall overseed window (lots of bare spots from dogs) so I am trying a nitrogen blitz (.33 lbs of quick release N per 1k, every 10 days) and mowing often to see if that helps fill out spots better with the Kentucky Blue Grass in Michigan USA. Gonna try some dormant over seeding in December as well. So it’s all new for me too. Never did this before.
I would try to work in some seed in the bare spots around April, scratch it into the soil and cover with some peat (or use the same process in December as you stated).. Last year I overseeded one area and never saw any grass growing and it came great in the spring with tall fescue.
Hey Sam this past season I tried dry milk powder and sprayed my lawn where it had fungus issues. That's a very natural way to prevent brown patch and it actually works!
I studied organic farming as a hobby and learned high nitrogen inputs favor disease. I typically put down 1/4-1/2 lb of nitrogen at a time. I use a mix of basic lawn fertilizer 27-3-7 and triple 12 to strengthen the roots with extra potash. My lawn is improving over time and does not require mowing nearly as often as throwing down excessive nitrogen. September & October I threw down two light applications of 12-12-12 because no fertilizer was used last summer and possibly over a year, also threw down a little seed between applications.. LCN is crazy about over doing everything as part of his viewer based lawn business and selling products for that dream lawn everyone wants.
Thanks for the input, very interested to see the results come spring, if there are any differences. I usually don't use too much nitrogen either, I tend to fertilize on the lower end of the scale. Regarding LCN, I cannot agree, I feel he says alot of times that you don't need this or that or you don't need to put down this much, whenever necessary. Never felt he oversells in his videos. Also, if you or I had a brand of lawn care products, I think we would be advertising those before other products too 😊 Thanks for watching, appreciate it.
Very interesting experiment and it will be cööl to see how it pans out. Here in the UK autumn fertiliser only have about 4 or 5% nitrogen. The grass almost or goes to dormancy in late autumn/winter and there's no need to push growth with nitrogen if it's not there naturally. But as I said it will be interesting to see the test results, which you might get F in maths😃 Just like you I don't have time for calculations and precise application, I just go with the flow and I am alright.
Hey man, yes for sure, it's going to be interesting to see how it turns out. F in maths for sure haha! Think the UK is much like Sweden in this regard, never seen anyone push N in late fall, but we'll see, maybe it will be great and we can all do it ;) Thanks for watching mate!
Hey Mate, correct, I never made that video as I intended since I decided to kill of the lawn the following spring. But from the short time I saw it until I killed off everything I really could not tell any difference in appearance, how fast it came to life in spring, dead spots or anything, they both looked pretty much the same. I might do the experiment again this fall though, but do it in a smaller area right next to each other, the side and the back get different amount of sun, would be better to have the same pre conditions. So hopefully results next year. Sorry about that mate.
Hi Sam.......great video pal I used autumn fertiliser last year for the first time ever and my lawn came back in spring straight away and was greener than ever so I'm using it again this year! Not sure I want lots of nitrogen for the top growth when the the grass is dormant so autumn fertiliser seems the best for me personally? Last year I was still fertilising in December and cutting the grass in December 👌
Hey Richard, thanks a lot mate. Usually I never use N for my autumn fertilizer but I have seen some do it, wanted to give it a go and see if it will make any difference. I guess we will see in spring. Last december we had almost 1 meter of snow on the lawn, lucky you! :)
@@SamsLawn will be interesting to see what happens next year 🤔👍. Snow in December...........we mostly just get rain here in December, mind you we mostly get rain for our summer too !!! 🤣🤣🤣
On Ryan Knorr's (RK) October 2020 video with the title "Are You Applying WINTERIZER Properly??", Ryan Demay (RD) shared some of the new research about winterizing and when to add Nitrogen in the Fall/Autumn (applying earlier in the Fall season is more effective for Spring season growth than applying later in the Fall), the types of Nitrogen (slow vs. fast) that is appropriate at those times, and the amount of the doses. Listen to his conversation with RK in this video on RK's channel: czcams.com/video/49xVuvl_kWE/video.html RD says "... it is the most important fertilization application that you're going to make the entire year. It is crucially beneficial for root development for the following year and also just for plant health over the wintertime. " RK sums it up by writing: "So applying heavy nitrogen at the end of the season [Fall] with the intention that it won't be used until spring actually risks the fertilizer running off or leaching. The better method is to use fertilizer earlier in the fall when the grass is able to use it effectively and not apply a heavy dose at all at the end of the season." Note: In his comments, RD several times refers to "Thanksgiving". Non-USA listeners may not know that Thanksgiving is an annual holiday in the USA on the fourth Thursday of November. So, when you hear RD refer to "Thanksgiving" know that he is essentially saying late November. There is a follow-up with more of their conversation in the November 12, 2020 Turfcast podcast where they clarify and expand on what was said in the October 2020 video. The link for the podcast is in the description of RK's video.
Wow, that's interesting, feels like there was two different camps when it came to nitrogen usage late fall. This was the first time ever I used any fertilizer with nitrogen before winter and to be honest, when spring came around, I couldn't really tell much of a difference. Feels like most of it just leeched off. I don't know the science of it but I can only say that I will continue using my low nitrogen fertilizer before winter. Thanks for the video tip and the information, very interesting!
Hey Sam! Interesting that low nitrogen fall fertilizers are common in Sweden, when it’s no where to be found here i Denmark. I’ve managed to find only a single supplier of an NPK 5-3-20 fertilizer, but is ridiculously priced and so is the shipping. Oh well, might grab a few bags for Florovit next time I visit Sweden. Keep the content flowing!
Hey dude, wow I would have guessed you had pretty much the same stuff there. Well I do go to Denmark for work a couple of times a month, but I think checking in 25kg of fertilizer for you might raise some questions at the airport, especially with my beard and dark tone haha
Always great to see how some practices are different in other parts of the world. I'm doing the nitrogen blitz, didn't see much difference on spring this year. Next spring ill make a decision if il keep doing it.
I don't expect to see much difference either, but it's always fun to try different things :)
I missed my fall overseed window (lots of bare spots from dogs) so I am trying a nitrogen blitz (.33 lbs of quick release N per 1k, every 10 days) and mowing often to see if that helps fill out spots better with the Kentucky Blue Grass in Michigan USA. Gonna try some dormant over seeding in December as well. So it’s all new for me too. Never did this before.
Hey Sean, I think it's going to work just fine, it's a good plan. Let me know how it turns out man.
Thanks for watching, appreciate it.
I would try to work in some seed in the bare spots around April, scratch it into the soil and cover with some peat (or use the same process in December as you stated).. Last year I overseeded one area and never saw any grass growing and it came great in the spring with tall fescue.
Hey Sam this past season I tried dry milk powder and sprayed my lawn where it had fungus issues. That's a very natural way to prevent brown patch and it actually works!
Hey Jesse! Dry milk powder? Awesome tip man, will definitely try it next season!
@@SamsLawn yeah or skim milk tank mix with water... You can Google search the amounts needed
@@SamsLawn if you use other types of milk it'll just smell rancid because of the fat
I studied organic farming as a hobby and learned high nitrogen inputs favor disease. I typically put down 1/4-1/2 lb of nitrogen at a time. I use a mix of basic lawn fertilizer 27-3-7 and triple 12 to strengthen the roots with extra potash. My lawn is improving over time and does not require mowing nearly as often as throwing down excessive nitrogen. September & October I threw down two light applications of 12-12-12 because no fertilizer was used last summer and possibly over a year, also threw down a little seed between applications.. LCN is crazy about over doing everything as part of his viewer based lawn business and selling products for that dream lawn everyone wants.
Thanks for the input, very interested to see the results come spring, if there are any differences. I usually don't use too much nitrogen either, I tend to fertilize on the lower end of the scale. Regarding LCN, I cannot agree, I feel he says alot of times that you don't need this or that or you don't need to put down this much, whenever necessary. Never felt he oversells in his videos. Also, if you or I had a brand of lawn care products, I think we would be advertising those before other products too 😊
Thanks for watching, appreciate it.
I was #500 last week, now your 600 on the dot 👍🏻 moving up nicely
Thanks Al 🙏
Very interesting experiment and it will be cööl to see how it pans out. Here in the UK autumn fertiliser only have about 4 or 5% nitrogen.
The grass almost or goes to dormancy in late autumn/winter and there's no need to push growth with nitrogen if it's not there naturally. But as I said it will be interesting to see the test results, which you might get F in maths😃
Just like you I don't have time for calculations and precise application, I just go with the flow and I am alright.
Hey man, yes for sure, it's going to be interesting to see how it turns out. F in maths for sure haha!
Think the UK is much like Sweden in this regard, never seen anyone push N in late fall, but we'll see, maybe it will be great and we can all do it ;)
Thanks for watching mate!
Thx for experiments. Can't find video with results...
Hey Mate, correct, I never made that video as I intended since I decided to kill of the lawn the following spring. But from the short time I saw it until I killed off everything I really could not tell any difference in appearance, how fast it came to life in spring, dead spots or anything, they both looked pretty much the same. I might do the experiment again this fall though, but do it in a smaller area right next to each other, the side and the back get different amount of sun, would be better to have the same pre conditions. So hopefully results next year. Sorry about that mate.
Hi Sam.......great video pal
I used autumn fertiliser last year for the first time ever and my lawn came back in spring straight away and was greener than ever so I'm using it again this year!
Not sure I want lots of nitrogen for the top growth when the the grass is dormant so autumn fertiliser seems the best for me personally?
Last year I was still fertilising in December and cutting the grass in December 👌
Hey Richard, thanks a lot mate. Usually I never use N for my autumn fertilizer but I have seen some do it, wanted to give it a go and see if it will make any difference. I guess we will see in spring. Last december we had almost 1 meter of snow on the lawn, lucky you! :)
@@SamsLawn will be interesting to see what happens next year 🤔👍. Snow in December...........we mostly just get rain here in December, mind you we mostly get rain for our summer too !!! 🤣🤣🤣
haha
I like a pretty balanced fert for the winterizer. And I also love to do math 🤓🤓
haha you can come do my math Kyle! :D
@@SamsLawn call it a date! I’ll be over for dinner.
@@TheLawnMentor 😂
6-4-32 is a common winterizer on the Pacific coast of Canada.
It has been gööd!
That's more like ours as well.
Haha awesome Wayne, lööööve it 😅
@@SamsLawn 😂
i kept checking to make sure you had all your fingers lol
Haha thanks man, close call every time you put power tools in my hands 😅
On Ryan Knorr's (RK) October 2020 video with the title "Are You Applying WINTERIZER Properly??", Ryan Demay (RD) shared some of the new research about winterizing and when to add Nitrogen in the Fall/Autumn (applying earlier in the Fall season is more effective for Spring season growth than applying later in the Fall), the types of Nitrogen (slow vs. fast) that is appropriate at those times, and the amount of the doses. Listen to his conversation with RK in this video on RK's channel: czcams.com/video/49xVuvl_kWE/video.html
RD says "... it is the most important fertilization application that you're going to make the entire year. It is crucially beneficial for root development for the following year and also just for plant health over the wintertime. "
RK sums it up by writing: "So applying heavy nitrogen at the end of the season [Fall] with the intention that it won't be used until spring actually risks the fertilizer running off or leaching. The better method is to use fertilizer earlier in the fall when the grass is able to use it effectively and not apply a heavy dose at all at the end of the season."
Note: In his comments, RD several times refers to "Thanksgiving". Non-USA listeners may not know that Thanksgiving is an annual holiday in the USA on the fourth Thursday of November. So, when you hear RD refer to "Thanksgiving" know that he is essentially saying late November.
There is a follow-up with more of their conversation in the November 12, 2020 Turfcast podcast where they clarify and expand on what was said in the October 2020 video. The link for the podcast is in the description of RK's video.
Wow, that's interesting, feels like there was two different camps when it came to nitrogen usage late fall. This was the first time ever I used any fertilizer with nitrogen before winter and to be honest, when spring came around, I couldn't really tell much of a difference. Feels like most of it just leeched off. I don't know the science of it but I can only say that I will continue using my low nitrogen fertilizer before winter. Thanks for the video tip and the information, very interesting!
Low Nitrogen for autumn.
Here in Germany atumn fertilizer, have low nitrogen ,and high k
Same as us in Sweden. Going to be interesting to see if there will be any difference with high N. Maybe we'll both switch to high N next year 😜😁