Salafi Belief In Istiwa EXPOSED!
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- Title: Salafi Belief In Istiwa EXPOSED!
Speaker: Shaykh Mohammad Yasir
The pseudo-salafi movement have been known for their attacks on the Ashaa'irah/Maturidiyyah regarding Istiwa i.e how they believe in Allahs Establishment over The Throne. The pseudo-salafis accuse them of denying this Istiwa which is of course a lie, but do we really know what it is that the pseudo-salafis believe and affirm regarding Istiwa? The truth and facts are shocking, watch this video and listen to how they believe Istiwa to mean Allah SITTING on His Throne and how they have accused even Imām al-Tahawi of deviance for refusing to describe Allah with such limits!
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May Allah bless u ya SHaykh and may Allah grant you the highest ranks of Jannah
Milkshake not "sheikh"
Some of the best human minds are found in the Indian subcontinent. No doubt the muslim scholars from Indian subcontinent are way ahead of the Arab muslim scholars in their research and scholarly work on Islam.
Please name some of the best scholars from India and the titles of their books.
but same Indian subcontinent produces -
Qadiani kufuri firqa
Berelvis hanafi firqa that declares Deobondis who are followers of Ashraf ali thanvi are KAFEER.
In response, Deobondi declares Berelvis are KAFEER.
And entire hanafi majhab in Indian subcontinent are divided into 2 equally strong group, calling each other KAFEER.
Name renowned Indian scholars whose books are studied in Al Azhar( Cairo), Medina university, Damascus Syria, Baghdad, Iraq? or in the western universities ( Islamic studies) !
You lied allama ahmed raza khan called them kafir but deoband never called them kafir...rather when allama ahmed raza khan died ,ashraf ali thanvi prayer for him ......BEWARE OF THE FACTS@@michaelalan5520
Keep it coming and expose them ! Allahu Akbar!!!
+sunnahman247 This video is complete falsehood.
The salafis say to follow the Quran and Sunnah the way the salaf as salih (righteous predecessors, the first 3 generations of Islam) did. And plus, just because someone says they are salafi, and make false statements, that does not mean that all of the salafis follow that, or that it is their aqida. The Quran and Sunnah, is the way we follow, and that is the way all of the Muslims should follow.
The salafis said that Allah (swt) is above the Throne in a manner that befits His majesty. They never said that He sits on it. This is the answer from a salafi website:
islamqa.info/en/11035
With regards to Allah lying on His back I want you to read this: Ibn Abi Shaybah narrated with a saheeh isnaad (in al-Musannaf 5/228) from al-Hakam that he said: I asked Abu Mijlaz about a man sitting and putting one leg on top of the other. He said: There is nothing wrong with it; rather it is something that the jews disliked. They (the jews) said that Allah created the heavens and the earth in six days, then on the sabbath He rose over the Throne and sat in this manner." This is clear evidence that it is the idea of the jews, and not the idea of the salafis. Look at how the man in this video tried to misguide all of us! Perhaps it was a mistake, and i hope it was, but we need to verify before we spread these kinds of things!
May Allah unite the Ummah on truth.
+yosuf815 Salafis are the people of innovation in all of the subjects of Islam . They are misguiding the Muslims with their misinterpretation, forgery and slander. May Allah cleanse the ummah of this fitnah .
+yosuf815 The camera shows the book it's probably hard for you to believe just like it would be for any Muslim. This is not the only book that is filled with garbage such as this one. Many of the ulama have exposed their misguidance in their books.
I said that just because a person says something, doesn't mean we follow it, he has to provide evidence from the Quran and Sunnah. That book he is showing us is not the Quran or Sunnah. And as i showed, the guy in this video lied twice about the salafi aqidah. I dont know if he did it intentionally or not but he spread falsehood.
+yosuf815 I have a long hands on experience with the so called salafis and I have been through their material years before this video. Do some research and then come back to talk to me. Of course not every single salafi believes all the same details but the "scholars" propogating their methodology are very much aware of the poison that they put out.
جزاك الله خيرا.
Masha Allah!
This is very important for everyone to know.
+myhaafiz This video is complete falsehood.
The salafis say to follow the Quran and Sunnah the way the salaf as salih (righteous predecessors, the first 3 generations of Islam) did. And plus, just because someone says they are salafi, and make false statements, that does not mean that all of the salafis follow that, or that it is their aqida. The Quran and Sunnah, is the way we follow, and that is the way all of the Muslims should follow.
The salafis said that Allah (swt) is above the Throne in a manner that befits His majesty. They never said that He sits on it. This is the answer from a salafi website:
islamqa.info/en/11035
With regards to Allah lying on His back I want you to read this: Ibn Abi Shaybah narrated with a saheeh isnaad (in al-Musannaf 5/228) from al-Hakam that he said: I asked Abu Mijlaz about a man sitting and putting one leg on top of the other. He said: There is nothing wrong with it; rather it is something that the jews disliked. They (the jews) said that Allah created the heavens and the earth in six days, then on the sabbath He rose over the Throne and sat in this manner." This is clear evidence that it is the idea of the jews, and not the idea of the salafis. Look at how the man in this video tried to misguide all of us! Perhaps it was a mistake, and i hope it was, but we need to verify before we spread these kinds of things!
May Allah unite the Ummah on truth.
+Ubaiydullah Nagoo we actually do because we try to obey the Quran and Hadith like the salaf as saliheen did.
+Ubaiydullah Nagoo we have evidence for everything we do
+Ubaiydullah Nagoo where does my understanding lack? I understand the way the salaf did, there's no way my understanding is lacking. And we did not come with anything new in 1900, all we said was we need to go back to the sources of the Sunnah instead of blindly following people who will lead us astray.
+Ubaiydullah Nagoo you say we have to blindly follow these people? What differentiates us from the hindus, jews and the christians then? They do not care what is written in their book, they only follow their imams. We should not be like that. The Prophet's (saw) sunnah is preserved in sahih hadith alhamdUlillah.
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(1) Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah (20/560-562); Ar-Rad `Ala Al-Jahmiyyah by Ad-Darimi (p.44-45); Musnad Al-Bazzar (1/182-183)
(2) Al`Adhamah by Abu Ash-Shaykh AlAsbahani (2/688-689); Al-Mujalasah wa Jawahir Al-`Ilm by Ahmad ad-Daynuri (6/406); An-Naqd by Ad-Darimi (1/422); Sharh I`tiqad Ahl AsSunnah wal Jama`ah by Al-Lalikai (3/395-396); Ithbat Sifat Al-Uluw by Ibn Qudamah (p.151-152) and others.
(3) The text of Al-Fiqh Al-Akbar is taken from “Sharh Al-Fiqh Al-Akbar” by Abu Mansur Al-Maturidi.
(4) The doubting of Allah’s Elevation above all of creation, and the belief in the possibility of Allah being in His creation.
(5) Al-Asma wa Sifat by Al-Bayhaqi (2/305-306)
(6) “As-Sunnah” by Abdullah bin Ahmad bin Hanbal (1/280)
(7) Siyar A`lam An-Nubala’ by Adh-Dhahabi (7/461); Tadhkirat Al-Huffadh by Adh-Dhahabi (1/168). And in another narration, Hammad bin Zayd said: “Verily, they are trying to say that there is nothing above the heaven.” (Musnad Ahmad (45/566) with a sahih chain.
(8) “As-Sunnah “ by Abdullah bin Ahmad (1/111) with a sahih chain.
(9) Ar-Rad `Ala alJahmiyyah by Ad-Darimi (40) with a hasan chain.
(10) Kitab Al-Arsh by Adh-Dhahabi (2/191) from the route of Ibn Abi Hatim Ar-Razi who narrated it in “Ar-Rad `ala Al-Jahmiyyah”.
(11) The head of the Jahmiyyah sect.
(12) “Kitab Al-Arsh” by Adh-Dhahabi (2/201) from the route of Ibn Abi Hatim Ar-Razi who narrated it in “Ar-Rad `ala Al-Jahmiyyah”. Al-Bayhaqi also narrated it with a sahih (authentic) chain in “Al-Asma was-Sifat” (2/337).
(13) Khalq Af`al Al-Ibad by Imam Al-Bukhari (2/17) Tahqiq: Fahd al-Fehaid.
Also, Adh-Dhahabi narrated it in “Kitab Al-Arsh” (2/207) through the route of Ibn Abi Hatim who narrated it in his book “Ar-Rad `Ala Al-Jahmiyyah”.
(14) Khalq Af`al Al-Ibad by Imam Bukhari ( 2/39)
(15) “As-Sunnah” by Abdullah bin Ahmad (1/173) with a sahih chain. “Kitab As-Sifat” by Ad-Darqutni (p.72-72); “Ar-Rad `Ala Man Yaqulu bi-Khalq Al-Quran by An-Najad (p.71); “Tarikh (Baghdad) Madinat As-Salam by AlKhatib Al-Baghdadi (4/452).
(16) Sharh Usool I’tiqad Ahl Assunnah by Lalikai (3/399) with a sahih chain.
(17) Shi`ar Ashab Al-Hadeeth by Abu Ahmad Al-Hakim (p.40-41), with a sahih chain.
(18) Sharh I`tiqad Ahl AsSunnah by Al-Lalikai (3/402); And it was narrated by al-Khalal in “As-Sunnah” from his Shaykh Yusuf bin Musa Al-Qattan, as is mentioned in “Kitab al-Arsh” by Adh-Dhahabi (2/247), and “Al-Uluw” (p.176), so the chain is sahih.
(19) Fahm Al-Quran wa Ma`anih by Harith Al-Muhasibi (p.349-350)
(20) At-Tanbih wa Al-Rad `Ala Ahl AlAhwa’ wal Bida` by Muhammad Al-Malti Ash-Shafi`i , chapter: Al-Firaq wa Dhikruha.
(21) Al-Uluw Lil-`Ali Al-Ghaffar by Adh-Dhahabi (p.186), through Al-Hakim who said: I read from the handwriting of Abu Amr Al-Mustamli… etc.
(22) Sharh As-Sunnah by Al-Muzani (p.79-82)
(23) Sharh Usool I`tiqad Ahl AsSunnah by Al-Lalikai (1/180-182)
(24) Al-Jame` Al-Kabir (known as Sunan At-Tirmidhi) (5/327)
(25) Hadi Al-Arwah Ila Bilad Al-Afrah by Ibn Al-Qayyim (p.827 & 835-836)
(26) Kitab Al-Arsh by Adh-Dhahabi (2/262)
(27) Naqd Ad-Darimi `Ala Bishr Al-Mirrisi (1/340)
(28) Ar-Rad `Ala Al-Jahmiyyah by Ad-Darimi (p.39)
(29) Kitab As-Sunnah by Ibn Abi Asim (1/342)
(30) Al-Arsh wama Ruwiyah Fihi by Abu Ja`far bin Abi Shaybah (291-292)
(31) Kitab Al-Arsh by Adh-Dhahabi (2/272)
(32) Maqalat Al-Islamiyeen by Abul Hasan Al-Ash`ari (1/260), Tahqiq Muhammad bin Abdel Hamid.
(33) Ash-Shari`ah by Abu Bakr Al-Ajurri (3/1076)
(34) Kitab Al-Jame` fi As-Sunan wal Adab wal Maghazi by Ibn Abi Zayd Al-Qairawani (p.107-108 & 117)
(35) Ones who believe that Allah is in His creation, that He is everywhere.
(36) Riyadh Al-Jannah bi-Takhrij Usool As-Sunnah by Ibn Abi Zamanin (p.88)
(37) Riyadh Al-Jannah (p.106)
(38) Al-Uluw by Adh-Dhahabi (p.264)
(39) Sharh Usool I`tiqad Ahl AsSunnah by Al-Lalikai (3/387-388)
(40) Al Uluw by Adh-Dhahabi (p.246)
(41) The Jahmiyyah said that “Istawa” on the Throne means “IstawLa” on the Throne, which means: conquered or overcame the Throne.
(42) Aqawil Ath-Thiqat by Mar`I Al-Karami (p.90); Lawame` Al-Anwar Al-Bahiyah by Abu Al-`Awn Al-Isfaraini (1/196-197)
(43) Kitab Al-Arsh by Adh-Dhahabi (2/345-346); Al-Uluw (p.243)
(44) Kitab Al-Arsh (2/341); Siyar A`lam An-Nubala (17/656); Al-Uluw (p.248)
(45) Aqidat As-Salaf wa Ashab Al-Hadeeth by As-Sabuni (p.44); Kitab Al-Arsh by Adh-Dhahabi (2/350)
(46) At-Tamheed Lima Fi Al-Muwatta min Al-Ma`ani wal Asanid by Ibn Abdel Barr (7/129)
(47) Al-Istidhkar by Ibn Abdel Bar (2/148)
(48) Sharh As-Sunnah by Al-Husain Al-Baghawi (1/169-171)
(49) Al-Intisar fi Ar-Rad `Ala Al-Mu`tazilah Al-Qadariyah Al-Ashrar by Al-`Amrani (2/607)
(50) Ithbat Sifat Al-Uluw by Ibn Qudamah Al-Maqdisi (p.63)
(51) Kitab Al-Arsh by Adh-Dhahabi (2/342), Ad-Dhahabi said - after mentioning the verses of poetry by Al-Karji on Allah’s Elevation on the Throne - : “Currently there are copies of it there, from it is a copy with the handwriting of Shaikh Taqi Ad-Deen Ibn As-Salah, at the begining of it is written: ‘This is the Creed of Ahl Assunnah and Ashab Al-Hadeeth’, with his handwriting - Rahimahullah-.”; Adh-Dhahabi mentioned the same in his book “AL-Uluw” when speaking about the poetry of Al-Karji.
(52) Kitab Al-Arsh and Al-Uluw by Adh-Dhahabi.
(53) Al-Asna Fi Sharh Asma’ Allah Al-Husna by Al-Qurtubi (2/132)
(54) What Al-Qurtubi rahimahullah meant by direction (jiha) is the word: fawq (above), he didn’t mean that they used the word “direction” but they used the word “above” meaning the direction above, so the meaning of his statement is: “And the first Salaf -May Allah be pleased with them- did not negate that Allah is above, nor did they utter that He is not above, Rather, they, and the rest, uttered in affirmation of aboveness for Allah -Ta`ala.”, and this interpretation is in accordance with what we have provided from the authentic statements of the Salaf in this article.
(55) Jame` Li-Ahkam Al-Quran by al-Qurtubi (9/239)
(56) Kitab Al-Arsh by Adh-Dhahabi (2/5)
(57) Al-Adhamah by Abu Ash-Shaykh Al-Asbahani (2/460)
(58) Siyar A’lam Nubala by Adh-Dhahabi (12/202), and Al-Uluw by Dahabi (p. 191), with a good chain.
(59) `Aridat Al-Ahwathi Sharh Sahih At-Tirmidhi by Abu Bakr Ibn Al-Arabi (3/166)... He is not Ibn Arabi who advocated the belief in whdat al-wujud
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ASSALAMUALAIKOM. Can I know the name of the Alim speaker?
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20. Muhammad bin Yahya Adh-Dhuhali (d. 258 H.) : Abu Amr Al-Mustamli wrote: “Muhammad bin Yahya was asked about the Hadith of Abdullah bin Mu`awiyah who reported the Prophet -Sallallahu Alayhi wa Sallam- saying: ‘Let the Slave know that Allah is with him wherever he was.’
He replied: «He means that Allah’s knowledge encompasses everything there is, and Allah is over the Throne.» (21)
21. Abu Zur`ah Ar-Razi (d. 264 H.) : Ibn Abi Hatim Ar-Razi said: “I asked my father and Abu Zur`ah concerning the Madhhabs of the Ahlus Sunnah in regards to the Principles of the Religion, and what they found the scholars upon (in belief) in all the lands, and what they believe from that?
So they said: «We have reached the scholars in all the lands - The Hijaz, Iraq, Sham and Yemen -, and from their Madhhab was: …», They then mention a number of beliefs one of them being: «And that Allah -Azza wa Jal- is on His Throne separate from His creation, as He described Himself in His Book (The Quran) and on the tongue of the Messenger -Sallallahu Alayhi wa Sallam- without (asking) how, He encompasses everything with Knowledge: {There is nothing like Him; and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer} [42:11].»
22. Isma`il bin Yahya Al-Muzani Ash-Shafi`i (d. 264 H.) said: “He is High on His Throne, and He is close by His Knowledge from His creation, His Knowledge encompasses all matters.”
And he said: “He is High on His Throne, separate from His creation.” (22)
23. Abu Hatim Ar-Razi (d. 277 H.) : Abu Al-Qasim Al-Lalikai said: “I found in some of the books of Abu Hatim Muhammad bin Idrees Ibn Al-Mundhir Al-Handhali Ar-Razi -Rahimahullah- from what was heard from him, saying: «Our madhhab and choosing is the following of the Messenger -Sallallahu Alayhi wa Sallam-, His companions, their successors, and who followed them with kindness, the madhhab of Ahl Al-Athar like Abu Abdullah Ahmad bin Hanbal, Ishaq bin Ibrahim (Ibn Rahwaih), Abu Ubaidullah Al-Qasim bin Sallam, and Ash-Shafi`i….» And he mentions a number of other Imams, then he lists a number of beliefs, one of them was:
«Allah is on His Throne, separate from His creation: {There is nothing like Him; and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer} [42:11]’.» (23)
24. Abu Isa At-Tirmidhi (d. 279 H.) said: “Allah’s Knowledge, His Ability, and His sovereignty is everywhere, and He is on the Throne as He described Himself in.” (24)
25. Harb bin Isma`il Al-Karmani (d. 280 H.) said in his “Masa’il": «The following is the madhhab of the people of knowledge, Ashab Al-Hadeeth, and Ahl As-Sunnah who are holding on to it, who are taken as an example in it from the companions of the Prophet -Sallallahu Alayhi wa Sallam- until this day, and I have met whom I’ve reached from the people of Hijaz, Sham and other than them, and whoever opposes any of these beliefs, or criticizes its expresser, then he is an innovator and has left the Jama`ah, and has faded from the tradition of the Sunnah and the path of the Truth (Haqq). And this is the madhhab of Imam Ahmad, Ishaq bin Ibrahim bin Mukhallad (Ibn Rahwaih), Abdullah bin Az-Zubair Al-Humaidi, Sa`eed bin Mansur and others from whom we sat with and took knowledge from them, and from their saying was: …»
He then mentions a list of beliefs one of them being: «And He (Allah) is on the Throne above the Seventh Heaven, below Him are veils of fire, light and darkness, and what only Allah knows. So if an innovator or an opposer used the following ayat as evidence: {And We are nearer to him than his jugular vein} [50:16] and: {There is no Najwa (secret counsel) of three but He is their fourth, nor of five but He is their sixth, nor of less than that or more but He is with them wheresoever they may be} [58:7], and other ayat the are from the Mutashabih from the Quran, the say (to them):what is meant is the Knowledge (of Allah), because Allah -Azza wa Jal- is on the Throne, above the high Seventh Heaven, He knows everything, and He is separate from His creation, no place is free from His Knowledge.” (25)
- Ibn Abi Hatim Ar-Razi said in “Ar-Rad `Ala Al-Jahmiyyah”: Harb bin Isma`il Al-Karmani told me: «The Jahmiyyah are the enemies of Allah, they are the ones who claim that the Quran is created, and that there is no known place for Allah, that He is not on a throne, nor a kursi, and they are kuffar (disbelievers) so beware of them.» (26)
26. Uthman Ad-Darimi (d. 280 H.) said: «And the Muslims have agreed that Allah is above His Throne, above His Heavens.» (27)
He also said: «Allah -Tabaraka wa Ta`ala- is above His Throne, above His heavens, separate from His creation, so whoever doesn’t know Him like that, then he doesn't know His God Whom he worships.» (28)
27. Abu Bakr bin Abi `Asim (d. 287 H.) said in “As-Sunnah” :«Chapter: What was reported regarding Allah being above the heaven without (being on) the earth.”, then he narrated the hadith of the slave girl in which the Prophet - Sallallahu Alayhi wa Sallam- asked her “Where is Allah?” (29)
28. Abu Ja`far bin Abi Shaybah (d. 297 H.) said: «He is above the Heavens and above the Throne by His Essence (bi-dhatihi) free from His creation, separate from them. His Knowledge is in His creation, they cannot leave His Knowledge.» (30)
29. `Amr bin Uthman Al-Makki As-Sufi (d. 297 H.) said in “Adab Al-Murideen wa At-Ta`arruf Li-‘Ahwal Al-`Ibad”, chapter: What the devils come to the repenters with: «If they resisted him (the devil), and saught refuge with Allah -Azza wa Jal- then he will whisper to them in the matter of the Creator to ruin their Tawheed…» Then he mentions a lot of them, then he says:
«For He -Ta`ala- is the One Who said: {I am Allah} [28:30] not the tree, He is the One Who comes before He comes, not His command, the One Who is mustawwen (I.e. Done Istiwa, Has Risen) above His Throne by the Greatness of His Majesty save all other places.” (31)
The Testimony of the Scholars who came after the era of the Pious Salaf, that this belief is the belief of the Salaf, the belief of the Muslims, the belief of Ahl Assunnah and Ashab Al-Hadith.
You would never understand this until Allah explain you this.
None of these quotes help you because we also believe in istiwa but we do not translate it as, "above the throne," because the Prophet says in Sahih muslim, "O Allah you are Al Batin and there is nothing above You, and you are Ad Dhair and there is nothing below You." You can either reject the Prophet or accept that there is nothing above or below Allah, and that He cannot be contained by directions.
Why do you translate istiwa as, "above the throne," when it has multiple meanings including to subjucate. Can't you just believe in it and leave it to Allah. The Quran says Surah 3 verse 7, "The meaning is known only to Allah and those firm in knowledge say, 'We believe in it. All of it is from our Lord.'" The Quran in this verse tells us to do tafwid and leave the meaning to Allah
Mashallah. May Allah swt increase you in knowledge ya shyakh. ameen
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+Abu Sasha You're a milkshake. I used to be a salafi Anthropomorphist like you.
+Lino Azzurro are you a grave worshiper now?
+Abu Sasha Your basically asking him 'Are you a kaafir/Mushrik Now'
Khwarij mentality, The topic is regarding attributes of Allah not 'If the dead can hear or not and reg to that go read kitab ar ruh of ibn qayyim' What a jaahil Takfiri.
Basically just like khariji they consider others not with them kuffar you have there blood. And we know what the prophet salallahu alayhi wasallam said reg them if he was to meet them.
+Lino Azzurro Me too for almost about 10yrs, left months ago.. Alhamdulillah the true path of the salafusaliheen is way better then the deviant salafiyyah sects.
Just like the Shia used a hadith 'The shia of Ali will be successful' they called themselves SHIA.
Salafis did the same.. from the hadith of the prophet pbuh saying 'I am the best salaf for you' they coined the word 'Salafi'
Wonder why?? because there understanding was not in line with the Aqeedah of the Salafusalih and the Madhahib and they formed a sect because they differed an understanding with them.
Just like shia pick and choose the fiqh of the madhahib but not the Aqeedah, Similar the salafis take the fiqh of hanbali and not the Aqeedah of Ahmad ibn hanbal ra, where he said rec in.. Dhammut-Ta‘wil of Ibn Qudamah no 33 regards to Nuzool and Istiwa.. we pass them on Bila Kayf(Without howness) and la Ma’na(without a meaning).
Whata the nasheed
🤦🏿♂️He is blagging here IMO when he says (they are saying)... (9.21) Allah has a limit (as per meaning in English)...I mean just because they quote an authentic hadith which states a description of Allah, doesn't mean he has a limit (as per English language). You are saying this & NOT them.🤷🏿♂️
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It is sufficient for the believer to accept & believe whatever Allah has said about himself without going deep into the verses of the Muthashabihat (verses in which only Allah knows the true meaning). However the Hizbis (those with a Cult mentality) have created their own set of principles of beliefs which they term as "Aqeedah" which they use to divide & attack the rest of the Ummah. These beliefs are based solely upon theological differences of opinion amongst the Scholars, which are not necessary for the lay person to delve deeply into because they are differences of opinion based upon on the verses of the Muthashabihat. They deem anyone who does not believe in the same theological beliefs of their scholars regarding these verses of Muthashabihat that they are out of the fold of Islam. SubhanAllah.
They call themselves big words like "People of Sunnah" & handpick certain Hadith with which they use to create divisions but ignore those that call for mercy & unity solely because they differ on the opinion of the scholars they follow on the verses of the Muthashabihat.
Wake up oh Ummah. These are the very people who are silent about the mass slaughter & forced starvation of Muslims in Yemen by the treacherous regime whom they blindly defend even though they have clearly sided with the disbelievers in unjustly slaughtering innocent Muslims. The very people who are silent about the regime they defend who are inviting evil practices and fitnah to spread across the holy lands. These very people proclaim to be of the people of the "Sunnah" & that they follow the way of the "Salaf". The true people of Sunnah & the Salaf would never behave as they do. It is easy to claim such things but the reality is very far from the truth.
You only have to see the way these people behave in their arrogant and harsh approach towards others & are highly intolerant to valid differences of opinion amongst the scholars. They make it a habit to attack other Muslims including scholars & their tongues are very sharp when it comes to making Takfir upon another believer.
They have made theological differences of opinion of the scholars regarding verses of Muthashabihat as "fundamental" aspects of Aqeedah so as to completely block & prevent unity & in order to move away from the rest of the Ummah whom they deem as being out of the fold of Ahlus Sunnah.
They have an inferiority complex called Saved Sect Syndrome (SSS) and it's a very debilitating disease of the heart.
May Allah save us from those who divide the Ummah. Ameen
The prophet (saw) already said that the kharijites when you will see them, they will look very religious, they will have beard , they will lower their garment, they will recite the quraan and it will not go down their throat.
the salafi don't they move away like the kharijites? they even prohibit doing salât behind a hanafee , no aalim aprove their fatwa , the salafi set apart from other muslim and declare them as non muslim.
the salafi has a long beard , lower their garment and are very religious when we see them we ourselves tend to impressed, this is the saying of the prophet (saw) about the kharijites.
Wow that is so true. Remember me in your duas
Fear Allah May Allah bless Our Salafi brothers and sisters... Half Knowledge is dangerous.
@@jisan8549 it is dangerous, like those "salafis" inTurkey they even cant read the Quran decent and they re trying to provoke our country like telling that it is not good to be a soldier and police because of the tagoet...
But they re hiring a lawyer when they go to the court...
They re dangerous brother dont follow them, follow the real Salaf not the wahabies who changed their name to salafis.
@@AliKing-pc7qc No Brother i do follow the real salafi Ulema and there is nothing such as Wahabies, It's a mocking words towards us.. Muhammad bin Abdul wahab rahimuallah was a great salafi. And The salaf follow only Quran and hadith. Alhamdulillah I've found it. Bro search for the truth.
Lol. And when the batelvi says dont pray behind deobandi and dont pray behind imam e haram. Is it right? And the hadith of kharijites you are fitting on salafiya is showing your ignorance. Can you link me any well known scholar referring the same hadith to salafiya.? Fear Allah and don't call others khawarij when you dont have knowledge.
138920: Meaning of tafweed with regard to the names and attributes of Allah (i.e., thinking that only Allah knows what is meant)
Praise be to Allah, I know what is meant by these four things [with regard to the names and attributes of Allah]: tahreef (distorting the meaning), ta‘teel (denying the apparent meaning), tawqeef (refraining from discussing the meaning) and tamtheel (likening Allah to His creation). But some scholars also speak of a fifth matter, namely tafweed (thinking that only Allah knows what is meant), and I do not know what tafweed is. Can you please explain to me what it means and the evidence for it?
Published Date: 2013-06-23
Praise be to Allah.
Firstly:
Tafweed with regard to the names and attributes of Allah, may He be exalted, has two meanings:
1.
A correct meaning, which is affirming the wording and the meaning to which is points, then leaving knowledge of how it is to Allah. So we affirm the beautiful names and sublime attributes of Allah, and we acknowledge and believe in their meanings, but we do not know how they are.
So we believe that Allah, may He be exalted, rose over the Throne in a real sense as befits His Majesty, in a manner that is not like this action on the part of human beings, but how that occurred is unknown to us. Hence we leave knowledge of how it occurred to Allah, as Imam Maalik and others said when asked about this rising over (istiwa’): The rising over is known but how is unknown.
See: Majmoo‘ al-Fataawa by Shaykh al-Islam [Ibn Taymiyah], 3/25
This is the view of Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa‘ah: We affirm the attributes of Allah, may He be exalted, without likening Him to His creation or discussing how. Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer” [ash-Shoora 42:11].
Ibn ‘Abd al-Barr (may Allah have mercy on him) said: Ahl as-Sunnah are unanimously agreed on affirming the attributes that are mentioned in the Qur’an and Sunnah, and interpreting them as they appear to mean, not metaphorically. But they do not discuss how any of them are.
Al-‘Uluw li’l-‘Aliy al-Ghaffaar, p.250
2.
The second meaning of tafweed, which is an incorrect meaning, is affirming the wording without understanding what it means. So they affirm the words only, “The Most Beneficent (Allah) Istawa (rose over) the (Mighty) Throne” [Ta-Ha 20:5], then they say: We do not know what it means or what Allah meant by it!
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
With regard to tafweed, it is known that Allah, may He be exalted, has commanded us to ponder the Qur’an and urged us to understand it. So how can it be possible that we are expected to turn away from understanding it, knowing it and pondering it?
Moreover, the text (of the Qur’an) is intended to guide us, explain to us and bring us forth from darkness into light. But if there are parts of this text the apparent meaning of which is falsehood and disbelief, and we are not expected to understand the apparent meaning or the hidden meaning, or we are expected to understand the hidden meaning without any reference to that hidden meaning in the text, in either case the text that is addressed to us does not explain the truth, and we do not know whether the apparent meaning of the text is falsehood and disbelief.
In fact what these people say about the One Who addressed these words to us, that He did not make the truth clear to us and He did not explain it to us, yet He instructed us to believe in it; and that what He addressed us with and commanded us to follow and refer to does not explain the truth or disclose it, and rather the apparent meaning of these verses may lead to disbelief and falsehood; and that He wanted us to understand from these texts or to conclude from them something for which there is no supporting evidence- all of that amounts to something that it is known from the basic teachings of Islam that Allah and His Messenger are above such a thing and that this tafweed is akin to the views of the distorters and heretics. … Thus it is clear that the view of those who promote tafweed and claim that they are following the Sunnah and the early generations of the ummah is one of the worst views of innovation and heresy. End quote.
Dar’ at-Ta‘aarud, 1/115
Shaykh Saalih al-Fawzaan (may Allah preserve him) said:
The view of the early generations was not tafweed; rather their way was to believe in these texts as they were revealed and to affirm the apparent meaning that is indicated by these words and their linguistic usage. At the same time, they did not liken any of these (divine) attributes to the attributes of His creation, as Allah, may He be exalted, says (interpretation of the meaning): “There is nothing like unto Him, and He is the All-Hearer, the All-Seer” [ash-Shoora 42:11].
Al-Muntaqa min Fataawa al-Fawzaan, 25/1
Shaykh Ibn Jibreen (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
The correct view is to refrain from interpreting the texts in a way other than the apparent meaning and to affirm the divine attributes that are mentioned in these texts according to the apparent meanings indicated in these texts, yet refraining from discussion of their nature, leaving knowledge thereof to Allah, and also believing that they are not to be understood in a manner that likens the Lord or any of His attributes to any of His creation. So we should not liken any of His attributes to those of any of His creation or interpret them in a way other than the way they are meant to be understood. End quote.
Fataawa ash-Shaykh Ibn Jibreen, 64/41
Shaykh ‘Abd ar-Razzaaq ‘Afeefi (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
The view of the salaf is that tafweed applies only to the nature of the divine attributes, not the meaning. End quote.
Fataawa ash-Shaykh ‘Abd ar-Razzaaq ‘Afeefi, p. 104
Shaykh Ibn Baaz (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
Ahmad said concerning those who promote tafweed: They are worse than the Jahamis. Tafweed means saying: Only Allah knows what it means. This is not permissible because the meaning is known to the scholars. Maalik (may Allah have mercy on him) said: Istiwa’ (rising over) is known, but how it occurred is unknown. This was narrated from Imam Rabee‘ah ibn Abi ‘Abd ar-Rahmaan and from other scholars. The meanings of the divine attributes are known to and understood by Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa‘ah, such as pleasure, anger, love, rising over, smiling and so on. These are meanings that are distinct from other meanings. Smiling is something other than pleasure; pleasure is something other than anger; anger is something other than love; hearing is something other than seeing. All of them are known to be attributes of Allah, may He be exalted, but they cannot be likened to the attributes of created beings. End quote.
Fataawa Noor ‘ala ad-Darb by Ibn Baaz, p. 65
He also said:
Imam Ahmad (may Allah have mercy on him) and other leading scholars of the early generations denounced those who promoted tafweed and regarded them as innovators because what their view implied was that Allah, may He be exalted, addressed to His slaves something the meaning of which they could not understand or know what He meant by it. But Allah, may He be glorified and exalted, is far above such a thing and Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa‘ah know what He, may He be glorified, meant by His words; they ascribe to Him what is implied by His names and attributes and they declare Him to be above anything that is not befitting to Him. They know from His words and from the words of His Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) that He has the attribute of absolute perfection in all that He has told us Himself or that His Messenger (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) has told us about Him. End quote.
Majmoo‘ Fataawa Ibn Baaz, 3/55
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
Tafweed is of two types; one has to do with the meaning and the other has to do with discussing how.
Ahl as-Sunnah wa’l-Jamaa‘ah refrain from discussing how, but they do not reject the meaning; rather they affirm it and explain it. Anyone who claims that Ahl as-Sunnah are the ones who promote tafweed in the sense of saying that only Allah knows the meaning is telling lies about them. End quote.
Liqa’ al-Baab al-Maftooh. 67/24
Secondly:
Some people think that the view of the salaf is tafweed; they misunderstand that from what the salaf said about the hadeeths which speak of the divine attributes: “Let them pass as they came without discussing how.”
But this is an incorrect understanding; rather the view narrated from the salaf indicates that they affirmed the divine attributes according to their meanings, but they stated that they did not know how those attributes were.
copy and pasted and nothing else
😂it is the pseudo salafist and taymiyyan interpretation dont you?😂bruh fear Allah and start learning about aqeedah. you guys are attracted to the Salafiyyah because of the thing that they claim that they're practice the salaf methodology😂. nothing else. do your own research stop being subject to this salafi circles.
Stop calling them salafi's!!!! They are Wahhabi's!!! They have nothing to do with the pious Salaf!!!
mashallah very nice
Hanafi fiqh channel. can you make more videos about hanafi fiqh because i want to learn more about fiqh .
***** yeah i want to learn more about what the hanafi madhab has to say about fiqh, etc.
These CZcams Salafis are just amazing. The moment you expose them they will start to spam like a bunch of mad men who lost their intellect. Instead of spamming, why don't you bring academic proof to refute the claim?
It is well known this was the Aqeedah of ibn 'Uthaymeen, one of the biggest Salafi scholars whom they all seem to look up to. Read his collection of Fataawaa (translated in English as well) and look for what he is saying under the topic of "Istiwaa".
He is saying exactly what is said in this video, that ibn Qayyim considered Istiwaa to mean nothing but sitting, audhubillaah!
So why do you go berserk? This is what your own scholars have said, accept the reality and make tawbah.
Are the Deobandi masses really this ignorant? You don't even know the word seated is not there in the Quran therefore Arabic speaking Muslims never use it for Allah? It is only jahil people like speaker in this video and his followers do out of their ignorance of Arabic language and Islam.
Then bring your proof that Istiwaa means sitting from the Salaf and what ever sources are available to you. All I can see is spamming again.
can you read man ? i just told you Istiwaa to rise over something, NOT SIT OVER SOMETHING. why is that hard for you people to understand ? Nobody ever claimed Allah is seated over the throne Naudhubillah. Do you not know what Imam Maalik (rahimahullah) said regarding it ?
bring sheikh uthaimeen' s speech if you are telling the truth and stop arguing
He can't, he's just expecting you to believe him
What no istawa doesn't mean sitting.
We say we believe in istawa and you sau Allah is everywhere which means you deny Allah is everywhere. We say Allah is above his arsh. Not sitting
Please make more videos...
Statements of the Pious Salaf:
The Sahabah (Companions) -Radiyallahu Anhum-:
1. Abu Bakr As-Siddeeq (radhi allahu anhu):
Abdullah Ibn Umar -May Allah be pleased with him- reported: “When the Messenger of Allah -Sallallahu Alaihi wa-Sallam- passed away, Abu Bakr - May Allah be pleased with him- ascended the minbar, praised Allah and said: «O people ! if Muhammad was your god whom you worship then your god has died, and if your God is the one above the heaven (fis-sama') then your God did not die. Then he recited: {Muhammad is not but a messenger. (Other) messengers have passed on before him. So if he was to die or be killed, would you turn back on your heels (to unbelief)?…} [3:144]’ until he completed the ayah.» (1) Its isnad (chain) is hasan.
2. Abdullah Ibn Masud -May Allah be pleased with him- said: «Between the lowest heaven and the one after it is the distance of five hundred years, and between every two heavens is the distance of five hundred years, and between the seventh heaven and the Kursi is the distance of five hundred years, and between the Kursi and the water is the distance of five hundred years, and the Throne (Arsh) is above the water, Allah the Almighty is above the Throne (fawqa Al-Arsh). And nothing is hidden from Allah of your deeds.» And in another narration «He knows what you are upon». Its grading is: hasan. (2)
After the Sahabah until 200 H. (Hijri year)
3. Abu Hanifah An-Nu`man (d. 150 H.) :
At-Tahawi said in “Al-Aqeedah At-Tahawiyah”, in which he wrote the beliefs of Imam Abu Hanifah and his two companions: Abu Yusuf and Muhammad bin Al-Hasan :
“And the Throne and Kursi.are true, and He is independent from the Throne and what is beneath it, He encompasses everything (? Is above it.”
His saying: “And Is Above it” meaning: “He is above everything” is affirmation of the elevation of Allah Azza wa Jal above all of creation, including the Throne.
And his saying in another section of the book: “Nor is He contained by the six directions as all created things are.” Is a negation of the creations’ encompassing of Allah -Azza wa Jal- , for the “He is not contained by the six directions” that is creation, He is above the six directions and all creation. This is a reply to the Hulooliyah and Jahmiyyah who said that Allah is in His creation, and that He is everywhere - Exalted is Allah above that-.
It was also narrated in al Fiqh Al-Akbar that Imam Abu Hanifah said: “Whoever says: ‘I do not know if Allah is above the heaven or on earth’, then he has disbelieved, Allah Ta`ala said: {The Most Gracious over the Throne Istawa (Rose)}; If he then says: ‘I do say this ayah but I don’t know if the Throne is above the heaven or on earth’ then he has disbelieved too.” (3)
And that is because in both statements he is doubting Allah’s elevation, him not knowing if Allah is above His creation or not. And in it is also the belief in the possibility of Allah being inside His creation -Exalted is Allah above that- . So by that he is denying the Islamic texts, and believing in the permissibility of Allah residing in His creation, and both (4) are kufr (disbelief).
4. Ibn Ishaq (d. 150 H.), the author of as-Seerah which Ibn Hisham abridged, said: «Allah Ta’ala says to His Prophet Muhammad -Sallallahu alayhi wa sallam- : {Indeed your Lord is Allâh, Who created the heavens and the earth in Six Days, and then He rose over (Istawâ) the Throne} [7:54], and He said: {And He it is Who has created the heavens and the earth in six Days and His Throne was on the water} [11:7], so it was as He (Allah) described Himself, for there was nothing except water, the Throne above it, and upon the Throne is The One Who possesses majesty, might, power , dominion, ability, forbearance, knowledge, mercy and grace, the One who does as He pleases…» (57)
5. Malik Bin Anas (d. 179 H.) : A man came to him and said: “O Abu Abdullah [Allah said:] {Ar-Rahman upon the Throne Istawa}, how was His Istiwa?
Imam Malik lowered his head and began to sweat profusely, then he said: «Istiwa is not unknown, the Kayf (how) is uncomprehendable, believing in it is obligatory, and asking about it is innovation, and I do not think that you are anything but an innovator.» , then he ordered that the man be let out. (5)
- Abu Bakr Ibn Al-Arabi Al-Maliki said, when speaking about Hadeeths on Allah's Attributes: «And the madhhab of Malik -Rahimahullah- is that each one of them [the hadiths of Attributes] its meaning is known, that is why he said to the one who asked him: "Al-Istiwa' is known, and the kayfiyyah [its reality, how it is] is unknown.") (59)
And it has been narrated that Imam Malik said: «Allah Azza wa Jal is above the heaven (fi as-sama') and His Knowledge is everywhere, not being absent from anything.» (6)
From the scholars who testified that this is the belief of Imam Malik are: Abu Hatim Ar-Razi, Ibn Abi Zayd al-Maliki, Muhammad bin Mawhib al Maliki, Abu Al-Qasim Al-Lalka'i, and Abu Nasr as-Sijzee. (Their statements can be found in this article.)
6. Hammad bin Zayd (d. 179 H.) said: «Verily they - the Jahmiyyah- are revolving around saying: There is no ilah (diety) above the heavens (fis-Sama).» Sahih. (7)
7. Ibn Al-Mubarak (d 181 H.) : Ali Ibn al-Hasan Ibn Shaqeeq reported: I asked Abdullah Ibn al-Mubarak: “How are we to know our Lord -Azza wa Jal-? ”
He replied: «He is over the seventh Heaven over His Throne. We do not say as the Jahmiyyah say: that He is here on the earth.» (8) Sahih.
In another narration he said: «That He is above the seventh Heaven, on the Throne, separate from His creation.» (9) Its grading: Hasan.
8. Abu Yusuf Al-Qadi (d. 182 H.) and Muhammad bin Al-Hasan Ash-Shaybani (d. 189 H.) the companions of Abu Hanifah rahimahum Allah: Their belief in this has been mentioned previously when mentioning the belief of Imam Abu Hanifah rahimahum Allah.
9. Jarir Ibn Abdul-Hamid Ad-Dabbi (d. 188 H.) said: «The beginning of the speech of the Jahmiyah is honey, and the end of it is poison, verily they are only trying to say: that there is no ilah (diety) above the heavens.» (10)
10. Abu Mu`adh Khalid bin Sulaiman Al-Balkhi (d. 199 H.) said: “«al-Jahm (11) bin Safwan was on crossing of Tirmidh, and he had an eloquent tongue, but he had no knowledge and had no sitting with the people of knowledge. He then spoke to the Sumaniyah, and they said to him: ‘Describe for us your Lord whom you worship.’ So he entered his home and didn’t come out (for some time), then he came out to them after several days and said: ‘He is the air, (He is) with everything, and in everything, nothing is free from Him.’ Abu Mu`adh said: “The enemy of Allah has lied, Allah is above the heavens (fis-sama’), on the Throne as He described Himself.”» (12)
Since when ashari and maturidi ahli sunnah? When u used philosophy as ur creed method. No salaf used ilm kalam.
@@eminucar4656 who’s wahabi? lol
great delivery but it is very sad to find statements as such in their books. well done deoband.
He is using unknown books to desperately save his boat. If we resorted to using unknown books of Deoband we will end up wasting many years of our lives counting shirk and biddah and other misguidence.
+A Traveller In Duniya thank you for your concern
Stop spreading lies. How is majmua fatawa unknown. It's the main fatwa book of shaykh imam ibn taymiyyah rahimahullah
I challenge you to show me the shirk in deobandi books. I.e hanafi texts.
@@MK-wf1eg he cant
Whole pesudo salafi aqeedah concept by their own words is bid'ah.
Evidence from the Sunnah (Hadith):
- Hadith of the slave girl:
Mu’awiyah as-Sahmi reported: «I had some sheep which I kept between Uhud and Juwaniyyah with a slave girl to look after them. One day, I went out to check on my sheep and discovered that a wolf had devoured one of them. Since I am just a human, (I became angry) and struck the girl. Later on, I came to the Prophet -Sallallahu alahi wa Sallam- and reported to him the incident. He terrified me with the gravity of my action. I said, "Messenger of Allah! Shall I free her (as an expiation of my sin.) He said ”Call her over.“
When I did, he asked her: ”Where is Allah?“ She said: "fi as-sama (above the Heavens)"
Then he asked her, ”Who am I ?“ She said: "The Messenger of Allah -Sallallahu alahi wa Sallam-".
Thereupon, the Messenger of Allah -Sallallahu alahi wa Sallam- ordered me, ”Free her for she is a believer.“ [Saheeh Muslim]
This hadith is already explained
...if anyone is limiting Allah then make takfeer on them & stop firing blanks bro.🤷🏿♂️
wallah ya ustaad, that was a mind blowing explanation!❤ بارك الله فيك
I have followed a few of your talks. I hope you should less emotional, present more systematic and concise. Reference to the source is very good. But who is the author and publisher. To counter, what is the view of our 4 imams and in which of the imams kitab. Is there any fatwa by our imams on the standing
(Found on a website)
Did ibn al-‘Uthathaymeen not say:
“As for the interpretation of the istiwaa’ of Allaah on His Throne by Him being established on it, then this is famous from the Salaf; Ibn al-Qayyim reported it in his poem known as An-Nooniyyah, and he reported it elsewhere; as regards sitting, then some of them mentioned it, but I am not content with it.”
Maulana please so not call them Salafi. They are Pseudo Salafi. The true Salafi are those who in fiqh are on the 4 Madhahib and in Aqeeda on Ashaari / Matrudi. Respectfully I request edit if possible all your videos
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+Bourne Y This video is complete falsehood.
The salafis say to follow the Quran and Sunnah the way the salaf as salih (righteous predecessors, the first 3 generations of Islam) did. And plus, just because someone says they are salafi, and make false statements, that does not mean that all of the salafis follow that, or that it is their aqida. The Quran and Sunnah, is the way we follow, and that is the way all of the Muslims should follow.
The salafis said that Allah (swt) is above the Throne in a manner that befits His majesty. They never said that He sits on it. This is the answer from a salafi website:
islamqa.info/en/11035
With regards to Allah lying on His back I want you to read this: Ibn Abi Shaybah narrated with a saheeh isnaad (in al-Musannaf 5/228) from al-Hakam that he said: I asked Abu Mijlaz about a man sitting and putting one leg on top of the other. He said: There is nothing wrong with it; rather it is something that the jews disliked. They (the jews) said that Allah created the heavens and the earth in six days, then on the sabbath He rose over the Throne and sat in this manner." This is clear evidence that it is the idea of the jews, and not the idea of the salafis. Look at how the man in this video tried to misguide all of us! Perhaps it was a mistake, and i hope it was, but we need to verify before we spread these kinds of things!
May Allah unite the Ummah on truth.
+yosuf815 Hey i used to be salafi as well for 9yrs left it alhamdulillah, ibn uthaymeen said 'he seated over the throne' i haven't met one salafi saying we take it on tafweed but they take the 'literal meaning/apparent meaning! besides saying sitting! bring me a salafi shaykh who says he does tafweed of the word of istiwa and doesnt take the literal meaning.
Why don't you check tafsir ibn kathir arabic on Qur'an 7:54 on istiwa and compare darrusalam arab english and see the LIES! ibn kathir refers to the salaf as they did tafweed, he further says so clearly 'the apparent meaning that comes to the minds of the Anthropomorphists is negated from Allah'
While darrusalam in tafsir lied on the verse and salafis agree on Apparent meaning and wrote it as being ibn kathir work.. you need to research properly May Allah guide you Ameen.
+yosuf815 The salafusaliheen passed them on as they came!! watch shaykh yasir entire series 11 episodes as well.. research the authentic creed of the salaf.. turn to Allah first not shaykh munajjid and you will see the truth inshallah
+Bourne Y thank you for asking Allah to guide me and may Allah guide the whole Ummah. However, ibn uthaymeen said: From Sh. Ibn Uthaymeen's "Tenets of Faith":
"His istiwaa over the Throne means that He is above it by His dhaat; it is
a particular ascending that befits His majesty and greatness. No one knows
how Allah ascends, except Him" (p18)
Why does Mufti Tariq Masood then support Athari aqeedah, just like Ashraf Ali thanvi r.h?
I don't know what Salafi Scholars he talking about because the ones I know don't say Allah is SITTING . neither do they say istawa means sitting or have legs
You know how the Shia are blinded by their religious leaders. Unfortunately, some brother's following the salafis, are leading this fitna and people are blindingly following them
He's giving you the references. What more do you want?!!
AsSalmu 3alyakum. Linguistic approach: Istiwa is on the pattern VIII of the verb. The root and its verb سَويَ . This word means "adjust" this is why some people confused "to sit" (above a camel, while it's just the way to prepare the sitting) and "adjust" with its meaning.So ISTIWA on this pattern means "accomodate/Adapt" to Allah'will. And Allah know best.
You may find the correct video.
+mansour ibn al andalus This video is complete falsehood.
The salafis say to follow the Quran and Sunnah the way the salaf as salih (righteous predecessors, the first 3 generations of Islam) did. And plus, just because someone says they are salafi, and make false statements, that does not mean that all of the salafis follow that, or that it is their aqida. The Quran and Sunnah, is the way we follow, and that is the way all of the Muslims should follow.
The salafis said that Allah (swt) is above the Throne in a manner that befits His majesty. They never said that He sits on it. This is the answer from a salafi website:
islamqa.info/en/11035
With regards to Allah lying on His back I want you to read this: Ibn Abi Shaybah narrated with a saheeh isnaad (in al-Musannaf 5/228) from al-Hakam that he said: I asked Abu Mijlaz about a man sitting and putting one leg on top of the other. He said: There is nothing wrong with it; rather it is something that the jews disliked. They (the jews) said that Allah created the heavens and the earth in six days, then on the sabbath He rose over the Throne and sat in this manner." This is clear evidence that it is the idea of the jews, and not the idea of the salafis. Look at how the man in this video tried to misguide all of us! Perhaps it was a mistake, and i hope it was, but we need to verify before we spread these kinds of things!
May Allah unite the Ummah on truth.
yosuf815 Ibn Taymyya used to fight his opposing by arabic language, meaning of words.
" ...in a manner that befits His majesty. " This is exactly the meaning of ISTWA, read my First post.
The shaykh in the video used words he doesn't master, and it seems he doesn't care so much. Why? Because political intent, instead of seeking the Truth.
The corruption came with borrowed concepts of greec philosophers: the worse one, the "essence". The muslims who borrowed this concept applied it on the arabic word ذات which is a corruption of its meaning, an invasion.
Come back to arabic, the mubeen human language.
Linguistic is a science, and could unit the Ummah إن شاء الله.
***** You are typlicly doing what I said above, apply a vague greec philosophy to arabic. With etymologic studies (with morphosemantic), we know the ARABIC meaning of Dhat through ARABIC. We can explain dhat through arabic, not through greec concept.
This why a word changes in meaning through geography, time and culture.
With ذات we have 3 informations; the ذ which is pronominal tool ; the semi-consonnant ي و ا expressing modulation of beeing, and the final ت. The last one is the mark of determinated Time process. So now, tell what means "essence" ? Etymologically, the ذ means "extract/come from" and could fit with the meaning of "essence", but anyway, the arabic ذات has Nothing to do with any "matter" (physical particule).
Translations leads to corruptions. This is why we need to study arabic through arabic (linguistic approach).
***** I said, but you don't heard: first learn arabic through arabic, then read books (this is what i do). We don't study arabic through farsi culture, nor greec one. And don't hide yourself laughing behind title of books, and spelling names of scholars.
17. Muhammad bin Aslam At-Toosi (d. 242 H.) said: "Abdullah bin Tahir said to me: ‘It has reached me that you do not raise your head up to the Heavens’, so I said with my head like this, up towards the Heaven, for some time, then I said to him: «And why do I not raise my head up to the Heaven? Do I not hope for goodness except from the one above the Heaven ?».” (58)
18. Al-Harith Al-Muhasibi As-Sufi (d. 243 H.) said: «As for His saying: {The Most Gracious Istawa (Rose) over the Throne} [20:5], {And He is the omnipotent, above His slaves} [6:18], {Do you feel secure that He,Who is over the heaven...} [67:16] …» - He mentions a number of ayat, then he says: «This necessitates that He is above the Throne, above the things, transcendant from entering His creation, nothing is hidden from him, for He has clearified in these ayat that His Essence (dhatuhu) is above His slaves because He said: {Do you feel secure that He, Who is over the heaven ..} [67:16], meaning above the Throne, and the Throne is above the heavens.”. (19)
19. Khushaish bin Asram (d. 253 H.) said in “Al-Istiqamah” : «And Jahm denied that Allah is above the heavens but not the earth, and the Book (The Quran) is evident in that Allah is above the heaven and not the earth, by His (Allah’s) saying to Isa Alayhi As-Salam: {And (remember) when Allah said: "O Esa! I will make you sleep and raise you to Myself } [3:55], and His saying: {For surely, they killed him not. But Allah raised him up to Himself} [4:157-158], and He said: {He manages and regulates (every) affair from the heavens to the earth; then it (affair) will go up to Him} [32: 5]…» He mentions several more ayat, then he says: «If He was on earth like He is above the Heavens, nothing would come down to earth from the Heavens, but it would ascend from the earth to the Heavens like it descends from the Heavens to the earth, and there have come reports from the Prophet - Sallallahu Alayhi wa Sallam- that Allah is above the heavens without (being on) the earth.» Then he mentions some hadiths on that.
- He also said: «Whoever disbelieves in an ayah in the Book of Allah (Quran) then he has disbelieve in all of it (the whole Quran), so whoever denies the Throne then he has disbelieved in all of it, and whoever denies the Throne then he has disbelieved in Allah, and there have come reports that Allah Has a throne, and that He is on His Throne.» (20)
I think there is a big division in the ummah because of these groups. We need to remind ourselves we are Muslim. Not salafi Muslim, not hanafi Muslim, not shafi Muslim and so on. We need to all stop having groups and refuting so many people: we should be humble in our approach. If the prophet Muhammad pbuh was here I am sure he would be appalled to the extent everyone are going these days refuting people. It's like some Salafi would say don't listen to this person don't listen to that person and same goes for other groups. But we should all take knowledge from anyone who says good about Allah.
And finally we all need to educate ourself before we claim to know the Hadith and quote it. We all need to ask Allah for forgiveness.
Could only unite on Tawheed. Can't unite on Bidah.
You did not expose anything but yourself, the interpretation of Al-Istiwa is contained in the sound chains of narrators from the predecessors in the sense of being high, and in the sense of settled and in the sense of sat. As for you, the Jahmiyyah, there is no predecessor for you from among the Companions and the Taabi’een and their followers.
Abu Yunus Sulaim b. Jubair, client of Abu Hurairah, said :
I heard Abu Hurairah recite this verse : “Allah doth command you to render back your trusts to those to whom they are due” up to “For Allah is he who heareth and seeth all things”. He said : I saw the Messenger of Allah (May peace be upon him) putting his thumb on his ear and finger on his eye.
Abu Hurairah said : I saw the Messenger of Allah (May peace be upon him) reciting this verse and putting his fingers. Ibn Yunus said that al-Muqri said. “Allah hears and sees” means that Allah has the power of hearing and seeing.
Abu Dawud said: This is a refutation of the Jahmiyyah.
Oops! Turns out that the Prophet, peace be upon him, was a mujasim and mushabih, which is anthropomorphism!🤣
God is the freatest possible being. there cannot be anything greater than Him. if God has a limit, then there is the possibility of that which is greater than Him, namely a being that has all the attributes of God but in addition has no limit.
this is sheer kufr.
if you believe God has a limit then you are allowing the possibility for a being greater than God.
oh, i forgot. i'm using the gift of reason that God praised in the Quran bug salafis condemn the use of reason.
Imam Ahmed said "Istiwaa" is KNOWN but How is "Majhool" UNKNOWN.
so where did he "consign the meaning to Allah" as this foolish devil asserts. rather he consigned the تفويض الكيف tafweedh of the "how" with Allah but AFFIRMED it's meaning.
@M A Ruling on تفويض الكيف still stands irrespective of Malik saying it.
@JOHN SEVEN it carries the same meaning even with this wording.
@JOHN SEVEN bi la kaif means that the kaif is NOT known to us, which is EXACTLY the same is saying only Allah knows it’s reality.
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Dodgy aqeedah refuted right here 👆🏾
@JOHN SEVEN not only spelling and grammar but also translation. Sifaat is the Attribute of Allah. And yes, I already said “bi laa kaif” is an affirmation (ithbaat) that the reality of Allah’s Attributes are unknown (to mankind). It means exactly the same as imam Maliks statement “Al istiwaa ma’loom, kayfiya- to-hoo majhool” - in that both Abu Haneefah and Malik AFFIRMED the Meaning (Yad and istiwaa) without DELVING INTO the “How”. In Abu Haneefa’s case he said “bi laa kaif” and in the case of imam Malik he said “kayfiyah-to-hoo Majhool”. They saying exactly the same thing.
You will never find anyone who says salaf saying setting it's a'la above and you will not find anything other unless it is daief
Commenting for the algorithm, may Allah guide the so called Salafi and may they will TRULY follow the Prophet and the Companions
Thanks
This person must be careful with his words as He Claimed alot about Scholars and provided no Evidence whatsoever and He said " The meaning of the word Istiwa is known only to Allah swt ". So you mean Allah swt mentioned this Word in Qur'an with no meaning and no guidance for us?
The Scholars who followed the Salaf clearly said that the word "Istiwa" means Rose Over which means Above His Arsh swt. We dont lie nor do we conceal any Truth.
Sitting is not what we believe in nor is Our Belief and Aqeedah nor the meaning of "Istiwa".
If the book is printed in Saudi, it doesnt mean its from a follower of the Salaf and what we believe in but Qur'an and Sunnah of The Prophet "Sala Allahu Alaiyhe Wa salam" with understanding of the Salaf.
Not any individual and follow anyone blindly Except The SAHEEH Hadith of Prophet "Sala Allahu Alaiyhe Wa salam".
Muhammad Ihsan
So when you say Allah rose over his throne does that mean before that he was below his throne?
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what Allah says himslf about himself in Quran, we salafis believe that without hesitation, without asking " How ", without
metaphorical meaning, without
asking further question.
we must believe elme gayeb -Quran 2:3
we must believe entire quran - all ayats - mohkam ayat ( clear), mutasabihat ayats ( unclear ayats) - all, we must believe - - Quran 3:7
we stops where Quran stops.
Quran 42:11- nothing is similar to Allah.
Quran 5:102- asking too much questions to their Prophets ( Jews), they became KAFEER.
Read what 4 Imams say about - ISTWA, where is Allah.
Are you better than 4 Imams?
what about sahih hadits - Allah descends to lower heaven at night?
Where did Rasul travel to above 7 heavens on Miraj night?
Sheikh subhanallah, dismantled aramseh
it is incorrect to say Istiwa is not known, the meaning is known is does not meaning sitting,
***** you say the shaykh says sitting? Where in his statement is جلوس أو يجلس أو جلس
***** stop mistranslating. ...
***** i meant the meaning is go read that to your shaykh, statement of Imam Malik known....أخبرنا محمد بن عبدالملك قال حدثنا عبدالله بن يونس قال حدثنا بقي بن مخلد قال حدثنا بكار بن عبدالله القرشي قال حدثنا مهدي بن جعفر عن مالك بن أنس أنه سأله عن قول الله تعالى الرحمن على العرش استوى كيف استوى قال فأطرق مالك ثم قال استواؤه مجهول والفعل منه غير معقول والمسألة عن هذا بدعة.
التمهيد الجزء 7 صفحة 151.
***** that arabic means, Allah himself is high above it,, and he is not resembling creation in that; whoever does tashbeeh is kafir. whoever describes Allah how he described himself, is a believer, and whoever rejects what Allah described himself with is kafir.
***** ahahhaha, you put in brackets (whatever it might mean)? did Imam Malik say that? Al-Istiwa ghayr majhool, means the arabs knew what Istiwa meant, but the salaf did not do takyeef, so they affirmed the meaning, and did not dive into howness. Simple? He knew the meaning, but did not talk about how Allah did istiwa as such kalam is baatil and not for insan to speak about....
The whole Verse is a methaphor. Does Allah need 6 Days to create the world ? And without World And Sund how a day can pass.And then Allah get tired and then go on the Arsh and screamed heyyy im the King? What is that?
It would seem the matter of antropomorphism is not resolved.
Good job from a maturidi in turkiye
In my place salafi is very shame themselve call salafi really because they are in many sects and each are alims and each fighting and our place police asking with us y u Muslim fighting within u really am getting shame in front non muslim
All did this albani I think so
35. Muhammad bin Mawheb Al-Maliki (d. 406 H.) said in his Sharh of Ibn Abi Zayd’s “Risalah” : “And the word “fi” (in) in the language of the Arabs can have the meaning “fawqa” (above), like His saying: {Do you feel secure that He, Who is over the heaven} [67:16] …{and I will surely crucify you fi (on) the trunks of date palms} [20:71]. The people of Tafsir said: He means “above it”, and it is the saying of (Imam) Malik from what he understood from the Tabi`een, from what they understood from the Sahabah, whom understood it from the Prophet -Sallallahu Alayhi wa Sallam- that Allah is fis-sama’ (in the heaven) meaning: above it, on it.” (38)
36. Abu al-Qasim Al-Lalaka'i Ash-Shafi`i (d. 418 H.) said: "What has been reported regarding Allah’s -Ta`ala- saying: {The Most Gracious over the Throne Istawa (Rose)} [20-5] and that Allah is on His Throne above the heaven. And He -Azza wa Jal- said: {To Him ascend (all) the goodly words, and the righteous deeds exalt it} [35:10], and He said: { Do you feel secure that He, Who is over the heaven} [67:16], and He said: {And He is the Irresistible (Supreme), above His slaves} [6:18]. So these ayat prove that He (Allah) is above the heaven, and His Knowledge is everywhere, His earth and His heaven. And this was reported from the Sahabah: From Umar, Ibn Mas`ud, Ibn Abbas, and Um Salamah. And from the Tabi`een: Rabee`ah bin Abi Abder-Rahman, Sulaiman At-Taimi, and Muqatil bin Hayyan. And this is the sayin gof the Fuqaha: Malik bin Anas, Sufyan Ath-Thawri, and Ahmad bin Hanbal.” (39)
37. Abu Umar At-Talamanki Al-Maliki (d. 429 H.) said in “Al-Wusul Ila Ma`rifat Al-Usul”: “The Muslims from Ahl As-Sunnah are upon consensus that the meaning of His saying: {And He is with you (by His Knowledge) wheresoever you may be } [57:4] and what is similar to it from the Quran is: by His Knowledge, and that Allah -Ta`ala- is above the Heavens by His Essence (bi-dhatihi), Mustawen (I.e. Done Istiwa, Has Risen) above His Throne however He willed.
And Ahl As-Sunnah said regarding His saying: {The Most Gracious over the Throne Istawa (Rose)} [20:5]: That the Istiwa from Allah on the Throne is upon the haqiqah (literal), and not majaz (metaphorical).” (40)
38. Abu Nu`aim Al-Asbahani (d. 430 H.) said in “Mahajjat Al-Wathiqeen” : “And they are upon consensus that Allah is above His heavens, and that He is high above His Throne, and did Istiwa on it, not conquering it (mustawlen) as the Jahmiyyah said (41).“ (42)
He also said in his book on creed: “ Our way is the way of the Salaf (predecessors) who followed the Quran, Sunnah, and the consensus of the Ummah, and from what they believed was: that Allah is perfect with all His eternal Attributes since eternity”, he then mentions a number of beliefs one of them being: “And that the Hadeeths that have been affirmed from the Prophet -Sallallahu Alayhi wa Sallam- regarding the Throne, and the Istiwa (rising) of Allah on it, they (the Salaf) affirm it without speaking about its kayfiyyah (how-ness), or resembling it to creation; And that Allah -Ta`ala- is separate from His creation, and His creation are separate from Him, He does not dwell in them, and He does not intermix with them: He is mustawen (i.e. Done Istiwa: Has Risen) above the Throne, above the heavens, without the earth. (i.e. He is above the Heavens and not on earth.)” (43)
39. Abu Nasr As-Sijzee Al-Hanafi (d. 444 H.) said in “Al-Ibanah”: “Our Imams such as Sufyan Ath-Thawri, Malik, Hammad bin Salamah, Hammad bin Zayd, Abdullah bin al-Mubarak, Al-Fudail bin `Iyad, Ahmad bin Hanbal, and Ishaq bin Rahwaih, are upon agreement that Allah -Subhanahu wa Ta`ala is by His Essence (bi-dhatihi) above the Throne, and His Knowledge is everywhere.” (44)
40. Abu Uthman As-Sabuni Ash-Shafi`i (d. 449 H.) in “Aqeedat As-Salaf Ashab al-Hadeeth” : “And Ashab al-Hadeeth believe and testify that Allah -Subhanahu wa Ta`ala is above His seven heavens, on His Throne, as is expressed in His book (the Quran) in His saying in Surat Yunus: {Surely, your Lord is Allah Who created the heavens and the earth in six Days and then rose over (Istawa) the Throne} [10:3] ” And he mentions the ayat on Allah’s Istiwa and other ayat regarding Allah’s Elevation, some of them were mentioned in the first article in this series, then he said: “And the scholars of the Ummah and the Imams of the Salaf -May Allah have mercy upon them- did not differ in that Allah is on the Throne, and His Throne is above His heavens, they affirm in that what Allah -Ta`ala- affirmed, and they believe in it.” (45)
41. Ibn Abdul-Barr Al-Maliki (d. 463 H.) in “At-Tamheed” when explaining the hadeeth regarding Allah’s Nuzool (Descent): “And in it is evidence that Allah -Azza wa Jal- is above the heaven on the Throne, from above seven heavens, as the Jama`ah said. And it is from their evidences against the Mu`tazilah and Jahmiyyah in their saying that Allah -Azza wa Jal- is everywhere, and not on the Throne.” (46)
He also said in “Al-Istidhkar” : “And Allah -Azza wa Jal- is above the heaven on the Throne, from above seven heavens, and His Knowledge is everywhere, as the Jama`ah of Ahl Assunnah Ahl Al-Fiqh and Athar said.” (47)
by Ahmad
I swear by Allah ﷻ that I saw the Holy Prophet Muhammad ﷺ and he said : ما قلته أبدا with regards to this lie of an idol lying down and putting his leg on the other. Prophet Muhammad ﷺ said, I never said that.
This is really very sad my Muslim brothers arguing and bickering over such trivial matters.i say these are trivial matters because as compared to problems facing our ummah example our palestine brothers and sisters and children suffering at the hands of the jews ,Syria ,Isis terrorism,leaving islam after listening to atheist, this is exactly what syaitan and the kafir wants.The words istiwa has 15 meanings if i am not wrong.so why cant we say ALLAH SWT knows best and let the matter rest and make dua to ALLAH SWT for guidance and forgiveness and if i am not wrong the power of this ummah is in our doa.Our objective are all the same to save ourselves from the fire of Jahannam and enter Jannah.O ALLAH The most Merciful The Most Gracious i beg you to forgive us and guide us the right path and unite us Ameen.
your aqeedah should be the 99 names of allah
Keep exposing them. They r deviants.
May Allah guide them.
I am a Muslim, I was born in Hanafi Family but I do not follow any particular Imam, It is like in Christianity you follow a particular church, Allah mentions in Quran do not be divided into sects, So we will call ourselves by names which Allah did not prescribe for us and on the contrary Allah prescribed us the name "Muslim". The argument here is valid but I do not know any Muslim who actually believes Allah is limited. Maybe someone said sitting, but how no one knows but Allah, We have no knowledge of the unseen, so for me I believe in the word Istiwa as Allah intended it which I dont know, I dont fight about it, When 100 people will give me 100 different meanings being a non Arab what am I supposed to believe? So I believe in what Allah means and that is it. Allah is not limited, Allah does not get tired, Allah is not like anything, Allah is Allah and the only one, None is equal to Allah, None is comparable to Allah, Allah is not the creation but the Creator with no beginning and no end. This is what I believe about Allah plus the 99 attributes as they are meant by Allah. So If I am not Hanafi or I do not follow any particular Masjid instead I consider myself a Muslim. What do you say about me? Here is what I believe about Prophet Muhammad, exactly what Allah said, Servant of Allah, Messenger of Allah, Prophet of Allah, Mercy for Aalameen, Man born of a mother and had a father, Went to Miraj on Burak, met other prophets and messengers. Was shown glimpses of Jahanam and Jannah. And Did not see Allah. I consider myself a Muslim because I bear witness there is no diety except Allah and Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. I do not seek help from anyone except Allah, I do not use any mediators between me and Allah. So I am not a Hanafi, Not a Shafi, not a Hanbali and not a Maliki, Not Shia not sunni, not Qurani not Ahmadi, not Sufi, I believe in no sects and us being Muslim who believe in Allah and believe that Muhammad is messenger of Allah and does not associate anything with Allah. You quote Quran I believe every word, you quote Sahih Hadeeth I believe every word. So am I wrong?
(Sects of the same religion,but religion free from sects)
"This is the book revealed for only the pious"Al Baqarah
"Dard e dil ke waste paida kia insaan ko"
Islam even gives harmony to it's non believers too.Laa ikraa fiddin.
All are the children of Adam and Adam was created from lust.AlHadith
"I would keep you on your faith,but I would not let you to led violence on the Earth",Ali ibn Talib to khawarij sect.
Behind clerical wars,common men are rapped.
Instead of social unity on love and ethics ,they are discriminating the people of the same species on minor issues.
Hassan ibn Ali gave is throne to Mauwyiah,to maintain peace.
Alhamdulillah...
Despite Studying Quraan (Nazira) From Pseudo-Selfies I'm Asha'ri In Aqeedah ..
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Hahaha
The Messenger of Allah sallallahu alayhi wa sallam said what means," O Allah , You are adh-Dhahir and there is nothing above you, and You are al-Batin and there is nothing beneath you." related in Muslim and others
Allah the most High is above His Arsh
+Abu Sasha Not according to this hadith which is authentic . Try again.
+sunnahman247 Let me be clear He subhanahu wa ta 'ala is above in terms of status not direction.
Brother,
The meaning of "Az Zaahir" is The Perceptible and "Al Baatin" means The Imperceptible , First learn the meaning then type whatever you want to.
That is your definition not the explanation of the scholars. It doesn't matter what you say about the definition it's clear that this hadith goes against the sick understanding of istiwaa from the sick salafis .
I love the way he knocks his opponent down
By lying?
Muhammad Ihsan what sorta lie??🤔
@@mohammadkashifmoiz211 i am salafi and this preacher saying wrong information about our aqeeda.,
Is that, not a lie?
@@romarbenito1950 He is reading directly from their so called Salafiyy book.🤔. You have no clue, how much truth this man is saying. It's obvious you do not have any Islamic political knowledge on how the British government sent people in the from the 1600's to the 1900's to destruct the Muslims. In the late 1800's they had fabricated the book of Imam Bukhari with false hadiths which were tampered and introduced the jews/Christian beliefs that God in in the sky in a throne. They published and distributed these evil books. Our great Caliph Abdul Hamid, tracked all the books down and burned them. He then had the original book of Imam Bukhari copied and given out. I am a Spanish Muslim, our country had the greatest scholars of Ashariyy and Maturidiyy. We are a people whose knowledge was proven to go back to the Prophet, Salallahu Alayhi Was Sallam. Know the correct knowledge first before you try to debate an issue without knowledge.
Mamy of these salalfiyy do not know what they follow, because they hear the basics of Islaam thru their tongues and become yes,, yes, true, true. By then they have already joined them not really knowing exactly what salafiyy stand for.
WHY THE 'ULMAS' OPPOSE SUFISM? The ulema accounted a danger to their orthodox-traditionalist belief to be rooted in many aspects of Sufis teachings: in its ontology, epistemology, ethics and social views. On ulema’s estimations the speculative Sufism, at best represented by Ibn ‘Arabi, was the “the single great enemy that threatened to destroy the very fabric of Islamic faith: at-tauhid. The concept of wahdat-al-wujud was “different from the Muslim theological concept of Divine Unity derived from the Koran. By refusing to see a difference between the divine and human realms it did not only struck at the essentially transcendental character of the God of Muslim theology, it reduced the very question of Divine, Justice, Will, Reward, Punishment, and different religions to gross absurdities.”
Prophet Muhammad (May the peace and blessings be upon him) in his authentic hadith when he asked a woman "WHERE IS ALLAH" and the Woman said "في السماء" which translates to "In the heaven" then the Prophet (May the peace and blessings be upon him) then said "then leave her as she is a Mu'minah (A believer)"
If you knew that the same hadith came in other books of hafith with other wording, for example in muwataa imam malik, the prophet salallahu alaihi wa salam asked her do you know who i am she said yes, then he asked do you witness that la ilaha ila lah she said yes then she was freed, there is no mention of the question where is allah, that shows you that the text of the hadith us turbulent as scholars of hadith decide, therefore you cannot take it as an evidence for aqidah.
🌺الصلوۃ و السلام علیک
یا سیدی یا رحمت للعالمین ﷺ💚
🌺وعلی آلک واصحابک
یا سیدی یا خاتم الانبیاء و المرسلین ﷺ💚
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Abu Muti' Al-Balkhi reported:"I asked Imam Abu Hanifah about a person who says, 'I do not know whether my Rubb is, above the heavens or on earth?' Abu Hanifah, may Allah grant him His mercy, said: 'A person who makes such a statement becomes an apostate because Allah, the Exalted says, 'The Merciful has ascended above the 'Arsh, and the 'Arsh of Allah is above His heavens'. I further asked Abu Hanifah, 'What if such a person admits, Allah is above His 'Arsh, but exclaims, I do not know whether His 'Arsh is above the heavens or on earth'. Abu Hanifah responded: 'If he denies that the 'Arsh is above the heavens, he is an apostate."[44]
If the person apostatizes by saying that he did not know where is the 'Arsh of Allah, then by right a person who denies the Loftiness of Allah altogether is definitely worse than an apostate.
Tablighi Jamat propagates 'shirk' and grave worship.
On page 144, Fadha'il Hajj:
• "Allamah Qastalaani writes in Muwahib that you should present yourself to the Prophet proper conduct such that was due to him in his lifetime because the Prophet is alive in His grave"
COMMENTS • What kind of heresy is this? The Prophet (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) alive in his grave? Are we to believe Kandalvi and conclude that the Sahaba of the Messenger of Allaah (sal-Allaahu `alayhe wa sallam) buried him alive? Was the historic speech of Abu Bakr (radhi-yallaahu 'anhu) mere jest? When he, Abu Bakr (may Allaah be pleased with be) said that whoever worships Muhammad then Muhammad is dead was a figure of speech and mockery? And Kandalvi wants us to believe in an 'aqeedah diametrically opposite to that of the Noble Sahaba?
• Allaah the Mighty and Majestic said in the Qur'aan (meaning of which):
• {And we granted not to any human being immortality before you (O Muhammad), then if you die would they live forever? Everyone is going to taste death, and We shall make a trial of you with evil and with good. And to Us you will be returned}, [Soorah al-Anbiya., Aayaat 34-35]
The Pious Salaf from 201 to 300 H.
11. Sa`eed bin `Aamir Ad-Dab`i (d. 208 H.), one of Imam Bukhari’s teachers, said: «The Jahmiyyah have said worse than the Jews and Christians, the Jews, Christians and the people of religions have agreed that Allah -Tabaraka wa Ta`ala- is over the Throne, and they (the Jahmiyyah) said: ‘There is nothing over the Throne.'» Sahih. (13)
12. Muhammad bin Yusuf Al-Firyabi (d. 212 H.), another one of Imam Bukhari’s teachers, said: «Whoever says: ‘Allah is not over His Throne’ is kafir (a disbeliever).» Sahih (14)
13. Muhammad bin Mus`ab Al-`Abid (d. 228 H.) said: “Whoever claims that You (Allah) do not speak and is not seen in the hereafter, then he is a kafir (disbeliever) in Your Face (and) does not know you. I bare witness that You are above the Throne, above the Seven Heavens, not like the heretics, the enemies of Allah, say.» Sahih. (15)
14. Abu Abdullah Ibn Al-A`rabi (d. 231 H.) :
Abu Sulaiman Dawud bin Ali said : We were at Ibn Al-A`rabi’s, and a man came up to him and said: “O Abu Abdullah, what is the meaning of Allah’s saying: {Ar-Rahmanu upon the Throne Istawa} ?
He (Ibn Al A’rabi) said: “He is on His Throne like He informed -Azza wa Jal-.”
So the man said: “O Abu Abdullah, that isn’t what it means, what it means is: Istawla (conquered).”
So Ibn Al-A’rabi said to him: “Keep silent ! What is it with you and this; It is not said: ‘One has conquered something’ unless there is an opposition in it. Then whoever of the two defeats the other, it is said: istawla (conquered)...” Sahih. (16)
15. Qutaibah bin Sa`eed (d. 240 H.) said: «This is the saying of the Imams that is taken in Islam and the Sunnah» - he then stated a number of beliefs one of them being: «And we know Allah above the seventh Heaven on His Throne, as He said: {Ar-Rahman Istawa (Rose) over the Throne * To Him belongs what is in the heavens and what is on the earth and what is between them and what is under the soil.} [20:5-6]» Sahih. (17)
16. Ahmad Ibn Hanbal (d. 241 H.) : Abu Yusuf bin Musa Al-Qattan said: "It was said to Abu Abdullah Ahmad ibn Hanbal: ‘Allah -Azza wa Jal- is above the seventh Heaven on His Throne separate from His creation, and His Ability and Knowledge is everywhere?’
He replied: «Yes, (He is) over the Throne, and no place is free from His Knowledge.»” Sahih. (18)
Some of the scholars who testified to this being the belief of Imam Ahmad Rahimahullah:
His two companions Abu Hatim Ar-Razi (227 H.) and Harb al-Karmani (280 H.), Abu Qasim Al-Lalikai (418 H.), and Abu Nasr As-Sijzee (444 H.). Their statements are to come.
«Chapter: What was reported regarding Allah being above the heaven without (being o
One of the best shaykhs ever, of all time.
bilal naby 😂
hahhaha love it when he says 'Bring us interpretation from dictionary not from your dreams'! hahhaaa beautiful Alhamdulillah, Shaykh Yasir your the forthcoming mujadid signs are clear Mashallah Alhamdulillah!
salafies got mangled they have nothing to say Alhamdulilah we need more brothers like this
+Moynul Islam Lol. Why don't you make a video about it?? lets see how u do.
+Moynul Islam Its the Qadr of Allah you were blocked, was meant to happen.. there must be some wisdom behind it and good.. accept it and move on.. thankyou.
+Bourne Y lol cheap shot indeed
+A Traveller In Dunya Quit whining will ya, your like a kid 'Oh mommy mommy they didn't let me play, they blocked me im a tell everyone' LOL
May allah guide you. Salafis beleive Allah is above his arsh .If a person doesnt beleive that he is not salafi. its acctually very funny. some sufis "refute& expose" is saying that its wrong to say allah is above his arsh....and then we get you that does the same but then we get u taht says we say he is on laying or whatever on hsi throne. Go educate yourself on salafiyya before you blabber stuff like this out.
Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allah have mercy on him) said:
The words of Rabee‘ah and Maalik, “The rising over (istiwa’) is not unknown, how cannot be comprehended and belief in it is obligatory”, are in accordance with the words of the others, “Let them pass as they came without discussing how.” They only stated that it is not possible to know the nature of the attribute; they did not deny the attribute itself.
If the scholars had believed in the mere wording, without any understanding of the meaning in a manner that is befitting to Allah, they would not have said “The rising over (istiwa’) is not unknown and how cannot be comprehended”, and they would not have said “Let them pass as they came without discussing how.” In that case the rising over would not have been known; rather it would have been unknown.
Moreover, there would be no need to deny comprehension of the nature of the attribute if he did not understand any meaning from the wording; rather there would be a need to deny comprehension of the nature of the divine attributes when the attributes are affirmed.
Moreover, the one who denies the divine attributes does not need to say “without discussing how”. The one who says that Allah is not on the Throne does not need to say “without discussing how”. Therefore if the way of the salaf was to deny the divine attributes in end of themselves, they would not have said “without discussing how”.
Moreover, their saying “Let them pass as they came without discussing how” implies acceptance of the apparent meaning of the attributes. As these words refer to certain meanings, if the meanings referred to are not what was intended, then they should have said: Let these words pass whilst believing that what they indicate is not the intended meaning, or: Let these words pass whilst believing that Allah is not to be described by what these words indicate. In that case they would not be allowed to pass as they came, and in that case it would not be said “without discussing how”, because denying the nature of an attribute that is not proven is meaningless.
End quote from al-Fataawa al-Hamawiyyah, 5/41
Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (may Allah have mercy on him) said something similar:
It is well known that the salaf said some things in general terms and made other statements that were more specific concerning the verses and hadeeths that speak of the divine attributes. An example of a general statement is: “Let them pass as they came without discussing how.”
This was narrated from Makhool, az-Zuhri, Maalik ibn Anas, Sufyaan ath-Thawri, al-Layth ibn Sa‘d and al-Awzaa‘i.
This phrase is a refutation of those who denied the divine attributes (ta‘teel) and those who likened Allah to His creation (tamtheel). The words “Let them pass as they came” are a refutation of those who denied the divine attributes, and the words “without discussing how” are a refutation of those who likened Allah’s attributes to those of His creation.
This also indicates that the salaf attributed sound meanings to the texts which speak of the divine attributes, in a manner that is befitting to Allah. This is indicated in two ways:
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Their saying “Let them pass as they came”. What is meant is accepting the meaning indicated by these words. There is no doubt that this wording affirms the concept in a manner that is befitting to Allah, may He be exalted. If they did not believe that these words (that speak of the divine attributes) had a meaning, they would have said: Let this wording pass and do not discuss its meaning, and the like.
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Their saying: “without discussing how”. It is obvious that they affirmed the meanings of these words, because if they did not accept the meanings of these words they would not have needed to say, Do not discuss how. That which is denied does not exist in the first place, so to say that we should not discuss how is meaningless. End quote.
Majmoo‘ Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen, 4/32
vertical height was created, it has beginning, it wont last forever
Allah's aboveness is uncreated and eternal
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some of them dont believe Allah is sitting.
But All of them affirm that Allah is floating, whether they admit it or not
It is better to follow a Madhab blindly or not over any scholars that came after them for indeed to rise on the day of judgement amongst one of the Imams is a rahmah, a blessing of Allaah.
Do these pseudo salafiy's and other groups not know that the Imams of Madhab were not merely Imams, but they were Wali's of Allaah. The Jews and Christians do not accept (all) the Prophets of Allaah. The Shia's do not accept (all) the companions of the Prophet of Allaah. Now we have 72 groups in total destined for jahannum because they do not accept (all) the Wali's of Allaah.
That is why they are not like us. (Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah)
When Muslims do not accept Wali's of Allaah as they ought to and struggle to take them as a guide, that too indeed will come at a price in the hereafter and indeed you are going against the Qur'aan where Allaah speaks so highly and fondly of those whom he loves and are his friends.
These 72 groups that shall enter jahannum choose to reject and not accept them; the Wali's of Allaah as they ought to and create division amongst the Muslim Ummah. Hence their belief is spiritually corrupt and even though they are brother's and sister's of Islaam they are not of the (Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jamaah).
Salafis do affirm "sitting" from certain early narrations, regarding "sitting" including Ibn Uthymeen -
"With regard to interpreting the istiwa’ of Allah, may He be exalted, over His Throne as referring to His settling on it, this is well known from the early generations, and was narrated by Ibn al-Qayyim in an-Nooniyyah and by others.
With regard to the idea of sitting, it was mentioned by some of them, but I feel uneasy about it. And Allah knows best. End quote from Majmoo‘ Fataawa Ibn ‘Uthaymeen (1/196)."
They don't prefer using the word "sitting" but they also don't censure one from saying it "But if someone does use this word, which is narrated from some of the early generations, then he should not be denounced."
Above quotes are from the following Islamqa (info): fatawa number - 258981 - "Is it valid to interpret Allah’s rising over the Throne (istiwa’) as referring to sitting?"
FYI: the word "settling" also means: sit or come to rest in a comfortable position.
This primarily goes in line with what Imam Ibn Taymiyyah stipulated: that the meanings of the ambiguous attributes need to be understood in their plain-sense literal form without asking "how?" (bila Kayf). He considered consignment of these meanings (tafweed) as was done by vast majority of the Salaf to be an innovation.
Establishing the literal meaning then leads to anthropomorphism when explicating what is unknown about the "how?", e.g in Aqida Al Wasithiyya - Ibn Uthaymeen (commentary by Darussalm Pubs, you can find the pdf online) explains the "Hand of Allah" by comparing the dissimilarity of the hands between Humans, Animals, Ants, and Camel (page 136 vol. 1). He said they all have hands yet are dissimilar, which he explicates in another place, as dissimilarities in dimension - large, small, bulky, thin, and so on (page 401 vol. 1) .
It's evident from the text he means it's a "form" in the category of "hand" but it's unlike anything we have ever seen. Throughout the text 2 hands (right, which author further says is used for "grasping"), 2 eyes, face, shin, etc. are further established.
Nope , Only fake created "gods" of the Quraish, Krishna and Jesus have body parts and forms. Allah SWT there is no resemblance with him. Of course Human hand is not the same as an animal hand, because they are both creations. LOOL.
@@Oxygen11115 u true dumb
@@SC10-vn2pd he's dumb for negating Hands for Allāh when He has affirmed them for Himself but continued to affirm forgiveness, mercy, life, knowledge, wisdom, seeing and hearing for Allāh and for humans because Allāh has affirmed them for Himself. If his argument is "the knowledge of Allāh is incomparable to ours" then he must apply the same for His Hands and that breaks his entire false kalāmi presupposition
@@AgMak so you are saying Allah has hands?
@@dariusneidhart1068 Allāh says He has Hands so yes
Great explanation Shaikh.
Salafi brother, commenting here not relevant to the subj:
The difference between the intelligent and the unintelligent, the latter when he doesn't have an argument responds with emotional rants, defamation and abuse..
+Khaled Khan He exposed Nothing, but in emotinal state. If the Throne is extended over all the creation, so nor this shaykh nor salafi can describe this particular sitting. We guess to sit over a camel it's not like sitting over an extended throne. In fact, fitna about this useless debate.
+mansour ibn al andalus. Did I even mention 'he EXPOSED anything' ?
And the point you made is his point too.
Peace
Khaled Khan I did the point about ISTIWA, and easy to expose the confusion of this shaykh (due to passion). I'm not salafi, but linguist: this shaykh doesn't understand what means JLS (to sit in arabic), and confused English with arabic. No methodology. I respect this shaykh, but don't follow him.
Sorry. Yes, we can't apply the way Allah 'sit' in the way a human sit, if not, it's anthropomorphism. From what I knwo about salafi, they say Allah has an hand, but we don't know how it is (we can't compare with our one, if not it's anthropomorphism). And I believe too, to deny Allah's word in the Qur'an, it's a deep wandering. I really think salafi (sholar from them) have a clear explanation, equilibrated, neutral, about Allah. Salam
+mansour ibn al andalus
Salafis do ithbat(establish), they do ithbat of the literal meaning, claiming to know the reality of the Sifat as they exist in Allah's Dhat. Yad etc., for them, is a Sifah of Allah's Dhat with a known meaning: its meaning is the same as its meaning in created beings. (as they believe إثبات المعني و تفويض الكيف ) establish a meaning and leave the how and modality of it to allah.
Hence, our problem with their aqidah is not in the ithbat of an attribute( حقيقت :reality) itself and accepting it as a Sifah of Allah (when it is supported by sound textual evidence).
But our problem with their aqidah is their claim that the meaning of the Sifah as it exists in Allah's Dhat is known, and it is only the modalities (kayfiyyat) that are different and unknown.
This is why there aqidah is weak. Also if anyone even tries to say that what was mentioned is incorrect and follow this salafi aqeeda in saying that Allah has a hand with a known obvious meaning and just how it is we don't know and that it's not like a creation. then don't comment unless you tell me what is this known meaning of Allah's يد/hand that you do ithbat/establish of. And if you cant ( which you will never be able to do as a human can never know the haqeqat of Allah and the meaning of yad ,wajh istiwaa etc in dictionaries will give meanings attributed to creations)don't you dare go and say that the meaning is not known and that you leave it to Allah because that is the ashari/maturidi belief the true followers of the salaf. we do إثبات الحقيقة وتفويض المعني /believe in its reality and leave the meaning to Allah. but so called salafies will say that they don't leave the meaning to Allah they establish it but it's just how it is they don't know. so if your gonna go with this false creed then your gonna have to say/mention the meaning of Yad and JLS that you establish for allah before you go and say that the how and modality of the yad of Allah etc is not known and different.
The ta'weel of the ashari and maturidi are not metaphorical meanings they are haqeeqi meanings of the word (unlike the mutazila who actually used metaphorical meanings) so don't confuse the ashari and maturidi with those people who did these metaphorical interpretations. Also these meanings that the Ash'aris and Maturidi's done were all meanings that they considered as possible meanings they didn't believe that is was the actual meaning with complete yaqeen and make it a part of aqidah as a must belief. The actual belief is what I mentioned before in that the real meaning is known to Allah and him alone as a creation cannot know the haqeqat of Allah as I have mentioned before. The only reason they interpreted these POSSIBLE حقيقي meanings is to stop people in thier time from either denying the ayaat, or taking and anthropomorphic meaning or taking a metaphorical meaning without any evidence from the salaf as these are all incorrect to do so.
But like I said the belief of the ashari and maturidi is the same as the salaf which is that the haqeqat of Allah's' hand istiwaa etc is not known but it is believed in and the meaning is known to Allah alone, the aqidah of the TRUE salaf not a made up one that the salafies of today and thier ilk dream up. JUST SO YOU SALAFIES GET THIS THROUGH YOUR THlCk HEADS. If your gonna go and say I'm wrong and the meaning is known but it's not like any creation then I ask you What is this meaning of the hand of Allah etc that you claim to know.....??? FORGET about taking it to the how and modality of it EXPLAIN THE MEANING YOU ESTABLISHED FIRST. AND BY THE WAY يد/hand استوي etc are not meanings they are words that have meanings. A creation cannot and will never be able to say it's meaning in accordance with the Dhat of Allah and guess what......these so called salafies don't know it either. The only difference is we will actually say we don't know it and leave it to Allah while these so called salafies denying and common sense (which is actually a part of their belief to deny any sort of logic and عقل) will say they know it( even though they never bring a meaning of it forward ) and the only thing they say is that the how/ modality of it is not like any creation ( as knowing that Allah is not like creation takes rocket science to figure out) but what about the meaning of the hand of allah etc that you claimed to know and established when do they plan to mention that................
Deen and guidance is from allah and him alone everything I have stated and mention if anything is wrong then it is a mistake from myself and shaytaan and I ask forgiveness from allah and whatever is right then its from allah and him alone , I make dua to Allah that it helps people see and recognise the foolish and stupid mistakes that people are making today in establishing a certain literal meaning for the atrributes of Allah that they don't even know the meaning of, as they are unable to present and explain it and leaving the overwhelming and vast majority of this ummah In doing so by not leaving the meaning that cannot be known by creation to allah subhana wa ta'ala. Ameeen.
why dont you throw away that book and go back to qoran..
Sheikh sudais the imam of haram is our imam
امام ابو حنیفہ رحمة الله عليه ذندہ باد
علامائے حق ذندہ باد
علامائے دیوبند ذندہ باد۔
All this guy does is searching for hateful things against Saudi scholars. I wonder why this guy goes after mistakes and fabrications of well-educated scholars that were knows for their efforts to deen!
very sad to see the fitna of salafi and hanfi in Europe after in Asia may Allah guide us and make us true muslims rather than hanafi and salafi
MashaAllah well said!
Al-Aqīdah aṭ-Ṭaḥāwīyyah is HAQ.
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Go switch of the lights and praise ur hazrat
Why then has Allah granted the Salaf the Custodians of the Harham ?
Yayah Ismail the mushrikeen of makkah were granted that as well. the qarmatiyya had control of it for a time.
how is your point decisive?
You literally conquered it from the sharifs (Ahl ul-Bayt) of Hijaz after they had held it for centuries. You prove no point.
Stop discussing BOOK bro see chaneel “ The marvelous Quran” . Make proper argu….. “ bur learn Ibrahamic locution “ not only arabic…. quran definitely not in Quran in
full of hate
+Ari Wahyudi ibn Abiddien Deobandis are the most argumentative and hateful sects among the various misguided sects of Ahlul Biddah. you will always find them attacking and abusing people because they know they can never win with evidence.
قال إمام احمد : استوى معلوم الكيف مجهول إيمان به واجب سوْال عنه بدعة
Instead of bringing some book in which you don't even mention the writer, why don't you bring well known aqeedah books from ibn taymiyah or ibn qayim or ibn hambal that state sitting (juluus) is part of the aqeedah? You won't find it. We follow the meaning of istawaa given by early scholars, which is "alaa" and "irtafa'a" i.e. to rise over or be above.
1. Istiwā, meaning subjugation (qahr) and control (ghalbah). This is an accepted meaning of the word in the Arabic language and the reason that only the ‘Arsh has been mentioned is because it is the greatest and largest of all creation. Therefore, what the verse really means is: Allah subjugates and controls all of creation.
2. Istiwā, meaning greatness (‘ulū). It refers to the Attribute of Allah, not physical greatness but greatness in rank and dominion. This interpretation was provided by Imam Bayhaqī (d. 458AH).³
3. Istiwā, meaning will (qasd) and volition (irādah). The verse would therefore mean: ‘Allah Willed to create the ‘Arsh.’ This interpretation was provided by Imam Abu’l Hasan al-Ash’arī (d. 324AH).⁴
4. Istiwā, meaning completion. That is, Allah completed the creation of the Heavens and the earth with the ‘Arsh. There is nothing that it does not encompass, everything there is and there will be is encompassed by the ‘Arsh. Istiwā with this meaning has been used in the Quran itself⁵ and has also been mentioned by Imam Ali b. Hajr al-Asqalanī (d. 852AH).⁶
@@fifafreebies8941 We are not interested in the meaning of ٱسْتَوَىٰ by itself, we want the meaning of it when it's accompanied by عَلَى.
Why don't we check the Quran and see if the use of the verb ٱسْتَوَىٰ with the preposition عَلَى is used in a context that does not apply to Allah.
In 23:28, Allah said regarding the story of Noah and the boat, فَإِذَا ٱسْتَوَيْتَ أَنتَ وَمَن مَّعَكَ عَلَى ٱلْفُلْكِ.
In 43:13, Allah said regarding the boats and animal, لِتَسْتَوُۥا۟ عَلَىٰ ظُهُورِهِ.
So which one of the translations you brought should we use in these two verses?
Are we to say we subjugate and control the backs of the animals?
@@crillin570 Al-Raghib al-Isfahani in mufradat al quran mentions when عَلَى. is used before istiwa , then it means subjugation. Watch this clip czcams.com/video/prCOeEBQhi0/video.html on 30:00 onwards
I don’t like the arrogance and ego in this debate style. Be more humble and people will respond. Aggressive debate is seriously off putting.
Even though I don't want to criticise for the sake of criticism but their aqeeda of tafweed al ma'na is worse than ta'weel al ma'na! And wallahi they won't be consistent with their aqeeda!
If I say that we believe that Allah is sami' or baseer but we consign it's meaning to Allah azz wa jall along with its kaifiya or in laymen terms we believe Allah has an attribute named sama' but sama' does not mean 'to listen' but only Allah knows it's meaning! Wallahi they will turn back on their usool of tafweedh!
May Allah keep us firm on the understanding of the sahaba!
Propaganda.... this is not the beliefs of the salafi.... and if someone has error with them that dont make all salafis upon this same error..
Dunno what to find funny, him chatting absolute nonsense or his accent?
Guy can't even speak English properly let alone Arabic
This is one of best Muslim theology channels on CZcams.
So according to you and your sheikh ibn e Arabi according to his belief Wahdatul Wajood, (نعوذبااللہ ) you say ALLAH is everywhere and everything i this universe is made of Allah. (نعوذبااللہ ).
If this is not SHIRK than what is the meaning of SHIRK.
There are words in the Holy Quran whose meaning is only known to his messenger Muhammad (صلی اللہ علیہ وسلم ).
According to Salafi we say " talking about the state of ALMIGHTY ALLAH on the throne is best know to him only, and talking about it is Bidith. (اللہ تبارک و تعالیٰ عرش پر مستوی ہے، حالت مجھول ہے، اور سوال کرنا بدعت ہے. )
Mic drop...
Fabrication!!!!
Go read the books of Shaikh Ul Islam Ibn Taimiyyah.... To know what we Salafis believe...
Usman bin Abdur Rasheed
www.shiachat.com/forum/topic/235058233-salafi-belief-in-istiwa/?tab=comments#comment-3152733
He has. And he’s covered the mistakes in detail
Ar rahmanu alal arshistawa ....
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