*Used to supplement the up stairs when it gets hot outside this works very well and **Fastly.Cool** Also works good when the upstairs gets too hot in the Winter from the heater.*
I'm an hvac technician and I gotta say after watching all these other videos of other techs i think you're the most skilled technician on You tube I've been doin this for about 10 years and you run into messed up issues I know would take me a little while but you're like lightin diagnosing issues
@Robert Slackware Spoiler alert, no non ECM HVAC motor has brushes. Surely someone who knows the true science of climate change would know that, wouldn't you.
@Robert Slackware Holy shit, someone obviously doesn't have a fucking clue about how motors work and why we don't use brushed motors in HVAC. Oh, it's liburals fault that magnets come from China? Confirmed magatard hack who thinks in terms of only blue team and red team. Added to ignore list.
The issue is that the drive controller is made from cheap electronic components that aren't thoroughly tested or designed well to handle dirty power or high heat. Then they're dipped in epoxy so you can't just solder in a new $0.50 capacitor. You need a who new unit or controller.
Thanks I just used this video to learn how to replace the ECM motor on my 13 year old XR14 got a 6 month old motor on eBay for $300 and it worked like a champ in my system back up and running full force again. I accually can feel warmer air from the heat pump running since I fixed the fan.
I don't care! You have become the only HVACR videos we view on CZcams! We used to view many others but now are dedicated fans of your channel! Some people might want to jump in and say I'm only doing it because I live close to you! I live in California so no that's not the reason! He is awsome at what he does and extremely honest is why! B.l.t.n!
I JUST DIY'd my XR12 yesterday to do a coil cleaning (1st in 15 years - was not too bad), and had the EXACT same issues getting the shroud re-seated at the same corner, including that the very same tab at the top of the side panel ended up on the outside rather than inside. But true to form, in the very last scene, he had re-set the whole shroud so that the tab was inside where it belonged.
The AC at my mother’s house had the same type of motor in it. It wasn’t under warranty when it failed and I couldn’t understand why a standard on/off unit would benefit from an ECM motor so I found a PSC motor with similar power/rpm and installed it since the oem motor was so expensive. It’s been running ever since and hasn’t given us any other problems. I guess the engineers have some reason for using the fancy motor though, at least they’re equipping them with high pressure controls.
The ECM motor uses about 20% less energy and can adjust for restricted airflow though the coil. In more advanced units it will run at different speeds to control head pressure.
@Poorold plowboy really depends on the unit, there's a few different style ECM motors around. Mini splits don't seem to have failure issues with ECM motors like these larger systems do. They are also fully communicating so the energy savings are maximised.
Those dastardly ECM modules. I agree with you on the ECM Motors. I hate them also. They do run pretty quiet though. But that's about it. I know you're glad it was warrantied.
The fact that your camera wouldn’t focus in the middle and only on the left bottom corner drove me nuts and I was really pissed because you make good videos and I couldn’t enjoy it , good job btw
When the generator switches back to main power after a power outage........there will be a power serge.....which takes out a small capacitor or resistor inside of the ECM motor.......its a big problem with generators and ECM's
And with ECM's all around. Fragile technology, threatened by even basic mains power spikes, then placed in surgey equipment/environments. Of all the places to squeeze pennies with major cost overhead. It's almost needlessly stupid.
@@davidperry4013 why would they do that it cut in there bank account on replacement motors ECM are nice and all but they made to fail more quick so they rob people money on Replacing them it ecm is cash cow
TXVs? ECMs? R410? Paper-thin primary/secondary "90%" heat exchangers? "You need a new system if you have an R22 leak" (??) Do homeowners understand the screwing they are getting from the EPA and DOE?
the lack of choices is the main issue, but the glory and cash tree is coming to an ending much quicker than they realized and dreamed of, hence the reason for plaguing it with utterly nonsensical electronic junk. think about and treat everything as a "pyramid scheme", because it IS after all and that includes all the governments full of turds ;) the electronic junk itself is chock full of lies and issues that makes it all fail early on and guessing life expectancy of said items, I'd say 95% of it never comes close to the target life expectancy as claimed by manufacturers and data sheets, so how can anyone design or build anything with components that are junk to start with! NONE of it is tested fully, because nothing has been in production long enough to be real world tested, that takes time and lots of it ;)
Another mountain house, Love the property, Love the ponytail, that is some crazy shit to protect the unit when power goes out, Never heard of jammer ax, omg xr14 eco fan motor, I love it I hate them motor, bypass that stupid load shit, i’ll tell you what you are one crazy SOB, good job ,thank train for that aggravation,
I hope this isn't a dumb question but what is the thinking behind a ECM condenser motor if the system isn't a communicating system? Does it maintain HP or something? Just curious...thank you for all your hard work in putting out these video's!!!
Its more efficient and you can get any speed you program into it. You have a permanent magnet in the center and you control the flux(Mag field) that surrounds that Permanent magnet.If there Neodymium permanent magnets you can get a lot more power out of it for much less wattage going into it compared to a Induction motor. These High Seer systems every extra watt saved helps plus a large fan turning at 645 Rpm is much quieter than one turning at 1100 Rpm.
We used to have 1 of those Load Managment things and My Mom sets Their Air Conditioning on 80° and they have a Brick House and it Never Got Cool with that Load Managment thing on there. We had it took off.
Hello there, I have a question I have a Trane XR17 and want to clean the Coils I have seen you in other videos removing the FAN screws on top and putting the FAN aside and cleaning the coils without removing the side panels. I was wondering if you recommend removing the whole top off and removing the panels of just putting the fan aside and clean the coils from the inside of the unit only. ??
those only drop condensers when it's on backup generator power! I'm going to guess lots of electric appliances in that house, water heater, oven/stove etc. being it;s mountain area and propane fueled. so maybe water heater recovery for 20 to 30 minutes, someone cooking, shorter bursts of microwave and well pump......
Well you can mix, it's not that big of deal when there is less than 1 lb in the system. I was out of Freon due to leak. So its not a fail. Just didn't have to pay $100 a pound for R22. Which was marked up by ac company 1000%. I still believe in doing things yourself because companies ripoff people. But i still follow you regardless of your feelings for a do-it-yourselfer. Unit has been working efficiently and better than ever. The AC company wanted to replace the condenser when there wasn't anything wrong with it. A fan motor and a cap. They wanted over $700 why do AC companies do this? I can replace for.$125. Including new fan blade 23 degree. But still thanks for.your videos.
That "mix" as you call it does not circulate oil properly and will eventually toast the compressor... but no reason not to live out the last days with the savings of a few extra bucks though so more power to ya !! However if you have watched my videos for very long you would know I certainly do not "rip off" anyone, and I was smart enough to stockpile R22 back before it skyrocketed. For many years my refill or "top off" price was 215.00 and only this year did I go to 255.00. I don't care if it is one pound or 5 pounds, that is my flat rate, if I charge at all. I actually give away more than I sell in order to "nurse the sale" of the new system which is actually the best move in most cases. The outdoor motor and cap from us is anywhere from 340.00 to 415.00 depending on the unit... (slightly more for an OEM motor) If you think the HVAC industry is a rip off... try buying trucks, tools, insurance, payroll, licences, stocking parts, etc etc etc... you will see things a little more realistically after you do all that !! Regardless, thank you for watching my videos and I hope you continue to do so... DIY guys will always gain a lot from youtube videos.
@@TedCookHVAC I agree. I like your videos. But motors are only.$75-$150 at Grainger. Im not.knocking the hvac industry just a few of the Hvac companies. Ive done alot of work with mine and saved thousands. I can buy a whole condenser dor $800-$1400 with evap. Maybe it waa just this company. Maybe they have too much overhead. I plan on doing just repair work on the side and for extra cash when i retire. Its typically easy work and get paid pretty well. But i dont plan on charging a ton of money is all. But keep up the good videos.
It's not that they are expensive its just that no one can afford it any more. I bought all the said equipment and am still collecting things here and there but I have everything to do my own fridges and freezers at my business.
@@TedCookHVAC I knew a guy who got a plumb job evacuating the drink cooling system at a club that had been wrecked in an earth quake. The booze system which seemed to run for miles was full of R12 .Tons of it in fact. I am sure he is still using it for favored customers today.
@@TedCookHVAC this is why I got out of the hvac business. people saying I was ripping them off because I had to pay for a shop, 2 trucks, workers compensation insurance and a whole lot more. $175 for a condenser fan motor or $550 for a 3 ton compressor is not a ripoff in the late 90's.👍
It’s not the motor that fails most of the time, it’s the electronic on the back of the motor. The A/C people love to replace the whole motor. This also applies to the blower motors. $1500 to $2000 min. CAL
I lived in LA Crosse and knew many people that worked at Trane. I don't deny it was a good company but it was bought and sold so many times that wasn't good. The American Standard years were not good either. Not sure who owns it now but it would have been better off had it been an employee owned company.
I even installed hard start kit. Clean my condensors and a coils. Changed out fan motors, caps, contactors. Etc. With no issues, even troubleshoot friends units.
Does the XR 13 also have this “ I hate them” motor? My XR 13 is giving me fits. I have 3 different techs to come out and do the warranty work on it. After a capacitor and a new condenser fan motor, it still will not work. I am told that we need another new condenser fan motor, but no one can tell me why.
I'm a journeyman electrician I wonder if Ac company would even consider me for services the only thing I can't do or never done is add freon other then that I'm good I feel comfortable fixing a unite!
I would have tested the fan motor before completing the close up of the cabinet, I've had DOA Parts in my line and Industry in the past as I say test it and verify it and finish the job
X13 motors are garbage.. I’ve replaced probably over 20 of them this year alone.. most were less than 10 years old. Just replaced the last one about a week ago. I’ve only replaced 2-3 PSC motors this year and they were all older condenser fan motors
The load shed modules drop the load out if the demand is being exceeded and will keep the prioritize loads going. Once the prioritize loads are satisfied it will pick up the other loads depending on what you set the delays for.
The green new deal cost the consumer a lot of money and service companies make a lot of money to keep these high efficiency units up that save you a little on the electric bill I'm living in the past and like things simple but the world keeps turning ahead with new technology.
The customer should be happy that you had that motor in stock if that unit was out of warranty and was not registered you would’ve probably done the same thing I would’ve been just put a plane PSC condenser fan motor in there and rewire a contactor and been done with it and put on a capacitor and then I would’ve ran for 20 years no problem LOL
Nothing is made good anymore,too much cutting cost and too much electronics to try and make things more efficient! We end up paying just as much in the end when we need to replace the item when it doesn’t last as long.
I have the exact same unit. Guy came out today, said it was the ECM & that it was luckily still under warranty because the part was "$1,200, our cost". I find your video saying that it's ~ $300. I am getting charged $300 labor to replace this. Not sure if that is reasonable or not?
@@tomtom1541 So the "Part" is under warranty by the manufacturer, and somehow you think that translates to free labor from a third party with no skin in the game to put it in for free?
@@johnhubbard6262 it's not what I think, I'm in Aus not the USA and consumer laws are much stronger here. Unfortunately you can't bill the customer anything if the unit is under warranty. If you make a warranty claim the manufacturer has to pay the labour, not the customer (assuming faulty equipment). I've seen mini splits leak refrigerant before and the installer ended up paying for it because they didn't tighten the line set to spec.
I do it all the time, unless it’s under parts warranty. Doing the customer a huge favor by converting it to a PSC motor. Just add a 90380 relay and cap and done.
@@tomtom1541 I made it more reliable. The PSC motors have about the same amp draw as the POS X13 motors. And the X13 motors are not true variable speed motors, and they won’t have to replace it again in 2-3 years.
@@jasonreitz6049 czcams.com/video/NtlgGlUI3MY/video.html You should look it up, theres about a 20% difference in energy consumption at full speed, and an even larger difference at low speeds because the x13 ECM has a much lower minimum speed. I'm in a different country but the x13 motor isn't common here, most of the equipment here is Japanese and they call it a brushless DC motor. We have a couple of split systems that are just over 5 years old with no issues whatsoever. But they use motors made by someone like nidec, Panasonic or Fujitsu so they have much higher quality than GE or whoever currently makes the x13 replacement. If they really fail that often you should buy a better quality replacement.
Why they put these units so close to the wall, and even the power cable is short. Horrible for maintenance. It could also have a minor effect on performance.
@@user-vb8jl6nf4k I don't expect him to work for free what I'm saying is the manufacturer should pay the parts and labor not the consumer. Just like if my car is under manufacturers warranty parts and labor are covered by the manufacturer.
When you checked both the high and low voltage at the 6-terminal plug, you had 240V between red and black. Good. At the low voltage between yellow and blue you had low voltage. Good. Thus, the motor was receiving voltage and the low voltage signal. What is that low voltage reading between yellow and blue? You did not mention and I could not read the meter in the video. I ask because my ECM physically shows signs of failure. In testing the plug, I have 240Vac at the plug (black-red), but have 65Vac on the low side between yellow and blue on the plug. Is this 65Vac a normal reading?? Thank you
Energy efficient equipment does not save money,it just makes the home owner feel better about them self when they buy it . What ever you save in energy during the time it works is lost many times over when it breaks.
Delivered $20k of R22 , called the fellow had half to drop , he was playing the market. Called & he was .. be there in 15-20 minutes, 30 minutes later he called , Where you at? I replied headed back to the shop, left it by the door! Ol boy about choked! lol! Said no waiting on you!! not gonna leave $10,000 worth unattended, but if you would have said 45 minutes I'd have got lunch!
I know your an anti Dyi, but how do you feel about me being a maintenance mechanic for 36 years. The AC company came out to fix my ac unit and quoted me $3500 to refill r22 freon, and install new evap coil. Well i did this my self for $500. I bought new coil and r22 replacement. Ac company wanted $100 a pound for freon. I know they have over head but thats a bit ridiculous . I did everything according to law concerning freon. Do you disagree i still did it myself.??? I know electrical and studied the hvac 1234 tests and actually did a very good job. But i also watched a few videos for back up purposes. I didn't need a recovery unit because i was so low on freon. Just pumped it into compressor. My question on diy people if your capable why not. I subscribe to your channel because im going to do AC REPAIR on the side
David Hoffman Good for you glad to hear you save a ton of money. That quote seemed a little high. Usually homeowner's do repairs means more money being spent cause something will be messed up or missed. There is a lot of steps in replacing a part like thay not saying you did it wrong but if something is done the correct way to the T usually means something else will most liky break down the road. We charge a fee and have to make a buck like any business.
Freon at $100 a pound will be a bargain (maybe already is). Thank you EPA and their henchmen, to wit: Does the fact that there is 6 months of darkness at the south pole contribute to lack of ozone there? Why doesn't Clorox, pool chlorine, or chlorine from seawater (NaCl "salt water) deplete ozone? Why do CFC's only deplete ozone at the south pole? Why are CFCs the only source of high-atmosphere chlorine? Being heavier than air, how do CFCs reach the stratosphere, which starts 6 miles up? Being heavier than air, what happens to CFCs when released into the atmosphere? If the ozone hole was "discovered" in the late 70s with satellite imagery, how do we know it wasn't there all along? The Ozone Scam czcams.com/video/9Szs-treHwQ/video.html Min 1:20 : The offending molecule is CHLORINE. Min 3:30 : Freon costs 50 cents/pound to manufacture. Min 2:40 : The biggest source of atmospheric CHLORINE is evaporation of seawater (NaCL in saltwater). Climate 101: Ozone Depletion | National Geographic czcams.com/video/aU6pxSNDPhs/video.html Min 1:50 : The offending molecule is CHLORINE. Min 0:50 : Ozone is a trace gas composing 3 parts per 10,000,000 molecules of AIR. Lot of discussion of other sources of atmospheric chlorine: www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100310134150.htm
@@hg2. Dont forget the man who INVENTED global climate change. Maurice Strong. .A genius who managed to figure out how to tax the very air we breathe and convince a good proportion on the worlds population to believe in it. And I have always wondered how R12 got to the south pole considering it is heavier than air... The fact the patent ran out had nothing to do with that of course...
Hello, thank you for this video. (I'm right in the middle of replacing my ECM Motor on my XL19i as well) Could you tell me the amount of voltage present on the Blue and Yellow Wires, when they are commanding the ECM to run? (At 9:50 on your video) Also, is it AC or DC? I'm in Dallas and last Friday, the only dealer who had the motor in stock, wanted $750 for me to buy the motor from them. I opted to purchase the ECM Motor on Ebay for $495 with shipping and tax. To keep my family cool while waiting for Ebay's motor to arrive, I bought 3 Window AC Units from Lowes, for $540. Total, I spent $1035. $1035 - $750 (Local Dealer) = $285 So, for $285, I bought three, 5,000 BTU Window Units at $95/each. The 3 window units will come out when the new ECM Motor goes in, later this week. We'll keep the three window units as insurance for the next "Trane Moment"~ Andy Lowe Arlington, TX
Measuring voltage on a working system, Red Volt Meter Lead on Yellow Wire, Black Volt Meter Lead on Blue Wire, you will find 6.189 VAC or 12VDC when the Fan is on and spinning. (I have two systems and was able to take a sample) My new motor came in, was installed and worked for LESS than a day, and on my defective 4 Ton system, I have .o72 VDC across the Blue Wire and and the Yellow. I'm procuring a new Control Board now. (Board = D154153G01)
FT!! I'd return the window units until my bosses have to fix their ien air conditioning equipment and do all the work they get paid all the money for during the Fkn week...Im up 3:30 in the morning sealing,mastiking,mastik taping,fkn metal taping, fkn squeegying, fighting a mfkn old coil out my tight ass attic fighting a mfkg new coil back into my tight ass attic 5:00am pulling a vacuum, 8;00 am finishing up cuz going ro sleep before then meant sleeping in my mfkn rruck because my wife thinks i plan everything... this wont fkn stay posted, my fkn facebook won't let me tell mfkrs they fkn asshole mfkrs... man!! FUCK!!
wtf why isn't that circuit potted? It's outdoors, it needs to be conformal coated and sealed in a box, or potted to protect against moisture and vibration. Not a single resistor should be visible.
"14 SEER" In other words the Department of energy is dictating how efficient the unit is supposed to be. Then, in order to meet these requirements, more complicated and expensive equipment is placed in service which breaks down (like ECM motors, delicate heat exchangers, ...) and ends up costing the customer more money than the less efficient units would. Is that how it's working?
In my opinion, yes. We've lost more energy and refrigerant in systems made after the 90s than any other period. Then again, they do take a lot less energy to run. They've mostly fixed the leaking issues by going back to aluminum coils. ECM stuff just needs to be made better.
My parents have a 14 SEER Payne with a PSC condenser fan motor and ECM blower motor. ECM indoor blower motors have came a long way and have gotten so much better over the years. Mars has made really good programmable ECM motor rescue motors for small refrigeration equipment.
@@davidperry4013 ECMs cost $600. Are you going to save $600 worth of electricity just to break even? These were crammed down our throats by the stupid DOE (just like the complexity they are cramming into cars.)
@@sprockkets Look at all the wasteful cr*p the consumer gets stuck with! Because of the EPA and its ozone depletion quackery! The Nonsense That is Ozone-Depletion "Holes" in the ozone argument: 1) Freon is heavier than air: how do molecules heavier than air get to 30,000 feet (the beginning of the stratosphere)? 2) The "hole" in the ozone over the South Pole was "discovered" by satellites in the '80: if it was just "discovered", how do we know IT WASN'T THERE ALL ALONG ? ? ? ? 3) There is a perfectly logical reason why there is less ozone over the polar regions: THERE IS LESS SUNLIGHT THERE TO PRODUCE OZONE IN THE FIRST PLACE, especially in winter ("land of the midnight sun...") 4) Antarctica (South Pole) has the highest average elevation of any continent (8000 ft): Does that have any effect on ozone quantity????? (The North Pole is all at sea level and there is no ozone "hole" there. (Why not?) 5) The offending atom is CHLORINE (very common), not CFCs themselves. The argument goes that the CFCs carry CHLORINE up to the stratosphere. There are other compounds of chlorine in the atmosphere -- that's one of the things you smell when you go to the beach --> "salt water" --> i.e. sodium-chloride. Is the ocean a source of "ozone depleting" chlorine compounds? 6) Most basic of all, ozone (O3) is an EFFECT of UV blockage, not a cause. [O3 is an unstable molecule that needs a lot of energy to produce, e.g. the ozone you smell around arcing engines. There is less ozone at the poles b/c there is less UV to generate it (just like there is less sunlight to keep the place warm in the first place. I hope the public is beginning to see how dubious this ozone scam is. Monstrous mistakes like this DO happen - think the ban on DDT and malaria deaths. The Ozone Scam czcams.com/video/9Szs-treHwQ/video.html The Nonsense That is Ozone-Depletion www.ourcivilisation.com/ozone/king.htm+ Look how we've been "had" by this "ozone depletion" scam: In other words, CFCs probably have NOTHING to do with Antarctic ozone: czcams.com/video/lBu3vltczRw/video.html In other words, the× Montreal Protocol is a complete fraud: Min 0:30: "Measurement of SURFACE 'ozone depleting substances' (chlorine? are you measuring ALL atmospheric chlorine compounds?). czcams.com/video/uVeTJSIbGm8/video.html 1987 - Montreal Protocol. Remember that date in this music-tracked piece of manipulative propaganda. Listen for the weasel words and disclaimers. czcams.com/video/Ll_TR7C4xr4/video.html Ozone hole is "healing" (scientific term). Can't you tell?: czcams.com/video/taTzqRHNIEc/video.html A discussion of atmospheric chlorine: api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/news/2010/3/100310-sea-spray-ocean-colorado-pollution Natural Chlorine? You Bet! (American Chemistry Counsel) "Many of these chemicals are identical to highly publicized manmade organochlorines: chlorophenols, chlorinated hydrocarbons, PCBs, CFCs and dioxins." chlorine.americanchemistry.com/Background-Natural-chlorine-You-bet-/ Min 2:00 Listen carefully: in other words, the ozone hole has been there since AT LEAST the 50s, before CFCs were widely used. Min 15:00 "interesting scientifically" - must be fun to have these kinds of research grants and boondoggles. Great work if you can get it. czcams.com/video/AU0eNa4GrgU/video.html How EPA is screwing up your car's air conditioning. czcams.com/video/wm56tV5BbJk/video.html Lousy car air conditioning: czcams.com/video/5jKRiDtcBrs/video.html Guy says we should use explosive propane as refrigerant czcams.com/video/pv_fxOuLuZU/video.html Propane as a refregerant czcams.com/video/iXyHOfx307k/video.html . Why The Banning Of Chlorofluorocarbons Is Paranoia www.ourcivilisation.com/ozone/index.htm Min 6:00 -- two different kinds of chlorine... (yeah, right) czcams.com/video/kmfAM8kQrjU/video.html The stupid claim the ozone layer is "healing" ("healing" - is that a scientific term?) Notice that the "hole" always goes away in Antarctic summer (more sunlight/more ozone produced) and reappears in Antarctic winter (no sunlight/no ozone produced (ozone is an unstable molecule to begin with)). We've been sold a load of cr*p that has made a hideous mess of the AC industry. You'll see no change in hole size in the Antarctic winter, which means the "hole" has been there all along and is a perfectly natural and harmless phenomenon. "Oh well, we trashed an entire industry over a quack-science hoax... Sorry about that..." czcams.com/video/krqHVzF3-T8/video.html
TXVs? ECMs? R410? Paper-thin primary/secondary "90%" heat exchangers? Capacitors that are always burning out because the replacement for PCBs don't work? "You need a new system if you have an R22 leak" (??) Do homeowners understand the screwing they are getting from the EPA and DOE? Is the HVAC business really HVAC? Or is it an EPA-DOE enforcement business?
@Robert Slackware False dilemma. You can have both if you wish. Just realize that whether or not you believe in climate change, it still exists, and that wasting energy will catch up to all of us.
@Robert Slackware You've just made the stupid argument that just because one thing happened in the distant past that means humans can't be altering it now, because....oh wait what you call science we call making shit up from your gut.
"What I aught a do" IS fix what the customer asked you to fix and not be disconnecting things that "I don't like", one day you will meet a homeowner that takes you to court for disconnecting things just because you don't like them.
*Used to supplement the up stairs when it gets hot outside this works very well and **Fastly.Cool** Also works good when the upstairs gets too hot in the Winter from the heater.*
I'm an hvac technician and I gotta say after watching all these other videos of other techs i think you're the most skilled technician on You tube I've been doin this for about 10 years and you run into messed up issues I know would take me a little while but you're like lightin diagnosing issues
You’re a very level-headed fella and I enjoy the heck out of watchin’ your videos! 👍
Crazy, I was learning ECM motors in my hvac class today n this is just what I needed to help visualize
@Robert Slackware Spoiler alert, no non ECM HVAC motor has brushes. Surely someone who knows the true science of climate change would know that, wouldn't you.
@Robert Slackware Holy shit, someone obviously doesn't have a fucking clue about how motors work and why we don't use brushed motors in HVAC.
Oh, it's liburals fault that magnets come from China? Confirmed magatard hack who thinks in terms of only blue team and red team.
Added to ignore list.
JM M non ECM HVAC motors are brushless too but, they have capacitors that do go bad and have a significantly less efficient eddy current iron rotor.
The issue is that the drive controller is made from cheap electronic components that aren't thoroughly tested or designed well to handle dirty power or high heat. Then they're dipped in epoxy so you can't just solder in a new $0.50 capacitor. You need a who new unit or controller.
Bet anything that if these motors were to be installed in the space shuttle or an airplane, they would never fail, or at least not this soon
You sir are a true gentleman, and a fantastic service tech.
Thank you very much for the support !! I really appreciate it !!
Thanks I just used this video to learn how to replace the ECM motor on my 13 year old XR14 got a 6 month old motor on eBay for $300 and it worked like a champ in my system back up and running full force again. I accually can feel warmer air from the heat pump running since I fixed the fan.
I don't care! You have become the only HVACR videos we view on CZcams! We used to view many others but now are dedicated fans of your channel! Some people might want to jump in and say I'm only doing it because I live close to you! I live in California so no that's not the reason! He is awsome at what he does and extremely honest is why! B.l.t.n!
Fine job you do sir. Hope one day I'll be just as good at it as you.
Thought it was a Steve Lav vid at first when I saw the bicycle lawn item. haha
LOL
Haha me too!
Same here
I JUST DIY'd my XR12 yesterday to do a coil cleaning (1st in 15 years - was not too bad), and had the EXACT same issues getting the shroud re-seated at the same corner, including that the very same tab at the top of the side panel ended up on the outside rather than inside. But true to form, in the very last scene, he had re-set the whole shroud so that the tab was inside where it belonged.
Yeah, I was wondering if he was gonna catch that tab. He did and fixed it off camera. After watching a bunch of his videos, he fixes them right.
After watching you work on Trane. I decided to by a Goodman. I don’t need a computer control fan.
“The. I hate em’ motor " 😂👍
The AC at my mother’s house had the same type of motor in it. It wasn’t under warranty when it failed and I couldn’t understand why a standard on/off unit would benefit from an ECM motor so I found a PSC motor with similar power/rpm and installed it since the oem motor was so expensive. It’s been running ever since and hasn’t given us any other problems. I guess the engineers have some reason for using the fancy motor though, at least they’re equipping them with high pressure controls.
The ECM motor uses about 20% less energy and can adjust for restricted airflow though the coil. In more advanced units it will run at different speeds to control head pressure.
@Poorold plowboy really depends on the unit, there's a few different style ECM motors around. Mini splits don't seem to have failure issues with ECM motors like these larger systems do. They are also fully communicating so the energy savings are maximised.
Those dastardly ECM modules. I agree with you on the ECM Motors. I hate them also. They do run pretty quiet though. But that's about it. I know you're glad it was warrantied.
More efficient as well
The swept wing fan blade is really quiet compared to a standard one!
The fact that your camera wouldn’t focus in the middle and only on the left bottom corner drove me nuts and I was really pissed because you make good videos and I couldn’t enjoy it , good job btw
also very low volume
Great videos!
Great job and get video!
Nice ECM change-out TED
Did you ever jump out the low voltage while the motor was still plugged in? Did i miss that?
When the generator switches back to main power after a power outage........there will be a power serge.....which takes out a small capacitor or resistor inside of the ECM motor.......its a big problem with generators and ECM's
And with ECM's all around. Fragile technology, threatened by even basic mains power spikes, then placed in surgey equipment/environments. Of all the places to squeeze pennies with major cost overhead. It's almost needlessly stupid.
A solution would be an integral surge protector in the motor controller
@@davidperry4013 why would they do that it cut in there bank account on replacement motors ECM are nice and all but they made to fail more quick so they rob people money on Replacing them it ecm is cash cow
Gotta get that surge protector
@@davidperry4013 There is one. It's a thermistor on the control board. That's all that needs to be replaced. $2. Not the entire motor.
ECM still living up to its expectations I see. ECM = Extremely Common Maintenance.
Exactly.
:)) that sums up all electronics........
@@throttlebottle5906 That is why i drive a 35 year old Merc Diesel . The only thing electronic is the alternator regulator and the dash clock. 😀
TXVs?
ECMs?
R410?
Paper-thin primary/secondary "90%" heat exchangers?
"You need a new system if you have an R22 leak" (??)
Do homeowners understand the screwing they are getting from the EPA and DOE?
the lack of choices is the main issue, but the glory and cash tree is coming to an ending much quicker than they realized and dreamed of, hence the reason for plaguing it with utterly nonsensical electronic junk. think about and treat everything as a "pyramid scheme", because it IS after all and that includes all the governments full of turds ;)
the electronic junk itself is chock full of lies and issues that makes it all fail early on and guessing life expectancy of said items, I'd say 95% of it never comes close to the target life expectancy as claimed by manufacturers and data sheets, so how can anyone design or build anything with components that are junk to start with!
NONE of it is tested fully, because nothing has been in production long enough to be real world tested, that takes time and lots of it ;)
Another mountain house, Love the property, Love the ponytail, that is some crazy shit to protect the unit when power goes out, Never heard of jammer ax, omg xr14 eco fan motor, I love it I hate them motor, bypass that stupid load shit, i’ll tell you what you are one crazy SOB, good job ,thank train for that aggravation,
I hope this isn't a dumb question but what is the thinking behind a ECM condenser motor if the system isn't a communicating system? Does it maintain HP or something? Just curious...thank you for all your hard work in putting out these video's!!!
Its more efficient and you can get any speed you program into it. You have a permanent magnet in the center and you control the flux(Mag field) that surrounds that Permanent magnet.If there Neodymium permanent magnets you can get a lot more power out of it for much less wattage going into it compared to a Induction motor. These High Seer systems every extra watt saved helps plus a large fan turning at 645 Rpm is much quieter than one turning at 1100 Rpm.
What do ya carry in that holster on your belt?
We used to have 1 of those Load Managment things and My Mom sets Their Air Conditioning on 80° and they have a Brick House and it Never Got Cool with that Load Managment thing on there. We had it took off.
Hello there, I have a question I have a Trane XR17 and want to clean the Coils I have seen you in other videos removing the FAN screws on top and putting the FAN aside and cleaning the coils without removing the side panels. I was wondering if you recommend removing the whole top off and removing the panels of just putting the fan aside and clean the coils from the inside of the unit only. ??
Second time watching 7/17/2020
I find the 1 ohm In Rush component opens. So I carry extra . So I just take the motor apart and replace the part
If I knew then what I know now, I'd have chosen HVAC for a career. But it's fun to watch a pro. Thanks.
Good vid Ted ... You make them Diy'ers proud ...Lol ...
lol
There's a motto for the truck door: Number 1 or number 2 We do them both.
Cycle Boxes cause nothing but madness when it's 95 deg out and it never comes back on! At least they didn't zip screw one on the coil I guess. XD
those only drop condensers when it's on backup generator power! I'm going to guess lots of electric appliances in that house, water heater, oven/stove etc. being it;s mountain area and propane fueled. so maybe water heater recovery for 20 to 30 minutes, someone cooking, shorter bursts of microwave and well pump......
just sold one $1200 lmaoooo thanks for the help on replacement
Well you can mix, it's not that big of deal when there is less than 1 lb in the system. I was out of Freon due to leak. So its not a fail. Just didn't have to pay $100 a pound for R22. Which was marked up by ac company 1000%. I still believe in doing things yourself because companies ripoff people. But i still follow you regardless of your feelings for a do-it-yourselfer. Unit has been working efficiently and better than ever. The AC company wanted to replace the condenser when there wasn't anything wrong with it. A fan motor and a cap. They wanted over $700 why do AC companies do this? I can replace for.$125. Including new fan blade 23 degree. But still thanks for.your videos.
That "mix" as you call it does not circulate oil properly and will eventually toast the compressor... but no reason not to live out the last days with the savings of a few extra bucks though so more power to ya !! However if you have watched my videos for very long you would know I certainly do not "rip off" anyone, and I was smart enough to stockpile R22 back before it skyrocketed. For many years my refill or "top off" price was 215.00 and only this year did I go to 255.00. I don't care if it is one pound or 5 pounds, that is my flat rate, if I charge at all. I actually give away more than I sell in order to "nurse the sale" of the new system which is actually the best move in most cases. The outdoor motor and cap from us is anywhere from 340.00 to 415.00 depending on the unit... (slightly more for an OEM motor) If you think the HVAC industry is a rip off... try buying trucks, tools, insurance, payroll, licences, stocking parts, etc etc etc... you will see things a little more realistically after you do all that !! Regardless, thank you for watching my videos and I hope you continue to do so... DIY guys will always gain a lot from youtube videos.
@@TedCookHVAC
I agree. I like your videos. But motors are only.$75-$150 at Grainger. Im not.knocking the hvac industry just a few of the Hvac companies. Ive done alot of work with mine and saved thousands. I can buy a whole condenser dor $800-$1400 with evap. Maybe it waa just this company. Maybe they have too much overhead. I plan on doing just repair work on the side and for extra cash when i retire. Its typically easy work and get paid pretty well. But i dont plan on charging a ton of money is all. But keep up the good videos.
It's not that they are expensive its just that no one can afford it any more. I bought all the said equipment and am still collecting things here and there but I have everything to do my own fridges and freezers at my business.
@@TedCookHVAC I knew a guy who got a plumb job evacuating the drink cooling system at a club that had been wrecked in an earth quake. The booze system which seemed to run for miles was full of R12 .Tons of it in fact. I am sure he is still using it for favored customers today.
@@TedCookHVAC this is why I got out of the hvac business. people saying I was ripping them off because I had to pay for a shop, 2 trucks, workers compensation insurance and a whole lot more. $175 for a condenser fan motor or $550 for a 3 ton compressor is not a ripoff in the late 90's.👍
It’s not the motor that fails most of the time, it’s the electronic on the back of the motor. The A/C people love to replace the whole motor. This also applies to the blower motors. $1500 to $2000 min. CAL
From what i learned in hvac school you are right! Lol
I lived in LA Crosse and knew many people that worked at Trane. I don't deny it was a good company but it was bought and sold so many times that wasn't good. The American Standard years were not good either. Not sure who owns it now but it would have been better off had it been an employee owned company.
I even installed hard start kit. Clean my condensors and a coils. Changed out fan motors, caps, contactors. Etc. With no issues, even troubleshoot friends units.
Does the XR 13 also have this “ I hate them” motor? My XR 13 is giving me fits. I have 3 different techs to come out and do the warranty work on it. After a capacitor and a new condenser fan motor, it still will not work. I am told that we need another new condenser fan motor, but no one can tell me why.
I'm a journeyman electrician I wonder if Ac company would even consider me for services the only thing I can't do or never done is add freon other then that I'm good I feel comfortable fixing a unite!
I would have tested the fan motor before completing the close up of the cabinet,
I've had DOA Parts in my line and Industry in the past as I say test it and verify it and finish the job
Another job well done. One question: What is the Black thing on your left hip? lol
It is a pistol holster
To remove the motor its easier if u remove the top assembly.
What kind of gun do you carry?
X13 motors are garbage.. I’ve replaced probably over 20 of them this year alone.. most were less than 10 years old. Just replaced the last one about a week ago. I’ve only replaced 2-3 PSC motors this year and they were all older condenser fan motors
How old was that system?
I thought they said “Nothing Stops A Trane”?
Trane is overpriced junk
Actual slogan is, "It's hard to stop a Trane".
@@kevint2465 amen brother
@@RobertLeBlancPhoto actual bullshit.
@@RobertLeBlancPhoto just like your comment
The load shed modules drop the load out if the demand is being exceeded and will keep the prioritize loads going. Once the prioritize loads are satisfied it will pick up the other loads depending on what you set the delays for.
Justin Hernandez good to know. Am thinking of putting something like this in my house in Puerto Rico
Justin is a fart smeller, i mean smart feller ;)
Nose picker, booty scratcher!!
:)) love all your comments bro, good for a chuckle and often learning ;)
Fact: If you cut off your finger it will hurt
The green new deal cost the consumer a lot of money and service companies make a lot of money to keep these high efficiency units up that save you a little on the electric bill I'm living in the past and like things simple but the world keeps turning ahead with new technology.
I guess that is generators I hear running in the back ground?
The customer should be happy that you had that motor in stock if that unit was out of warranty and was not registered you would’ve probably done the same thing I would’ve been just put a plane PSC condenser fan motor in there and rewire a contactor and been done with it and put on a capacitor and then I would’ve ran for 20 years no problem LOL
Looks like you carry ?
Nothing is made good anymore,too much cutting cost and too much electronics to try and make things more efficient! We end up paying just as much in the end when we need to replace the item when it doesn’t last as long.
Trane is the best money can buy !!
if the unit is under warranty, How do you get to charge a Servive Call and Labor Fees???
Manufacturer warranty. Also who works for free?
Yes. I am getting charged both.
I have the exact same unit. Guy came out today, said it was the ECM & that it was luckily still under warranty because the part was "$1,200, our cost". I find your video saying that it's ~ $300.
I am getting charged $300 labor to replace this. Not sure if that is reasonable or not?
300$ labor is bad. 75 $and hour for labor.
If it's in warranty you shouldn't have to pay anything for labour
@@tomtom1541 So the "Part" is under warranty by the manufacturer, and somehow you think that translates to free labor from a third party with no skin in the game to put it in for free?
@@johnhubbard6262 it's not what I think, I'm in Aus not the USA and consumer laws are much stronger here. Unfortunately you can't bill the customer anything if the unit is under warranty. If you make a warranty claim the manufacturer has to pay the labour, not the customer (assuming faulty equipment). I've seen mini splits leak refrigerant before and the installer ended up paying for it because they didn't tighten the line set to spec.
@@tomtom1541 Interesting, do they pay you at your labor rate? or how do they set that?
Would it be illegal to put a regular fan in there? I don't think it would be unless it would change its EER.
I do it all the time, unless it’s under parts warranty. Doing the customer a huge favor by converting it to a PSC motor. Just add a 90380 relay and cap and done.
@@jasonreitz6049 you've also made their equipment less efficient
@@tomtom1541 I made it more reliable. The PSC motors have about the same amp draw as the POS X13 motors. And the X13 motors are not true variable speed motors, and they won’t have to replace it again in 2-3 years.
@@jasonreitz6049 czcams.com/video/NtlgGlUI3MY/video.html
You should look it up, theres about a 20% difference in energy consumption at full speed, and an even larger difference at low speeds because the x13 ECM has a much lower minimum speed. I'm in a different country but the x13 motor isn't common here, most of the equipment here is Japanese and they call it a brushless DC motor. We have a couple of split systems that are just over 5 years old with no issues whatsoever. But they use motors made by someone like nidec, Panasonic or Fujitsu so they have much higher quality than GE or whoever currently makes the x13 replacement. If they really fail that often you should buy a better quality replacement.
we have a trane ac unet and it is Huge it is i think 4 or 5 feet
Why they put these units so close to the wall, and even the power cable is short. Horrible for maintenance. It could also have a minor effect on performance.
It's registered and under warranty but the customer still has to pay for the service call and labor??!!
he didn't install it so the homeowner is only covered by the warranty from the manufacturer not the labor
Of course he’s not gonna work for free it’s parts warranty only not service and labor
@@user-vb8jl6nf4k I don't expect him to work for free what I'm saying is the manufacturer should pay the parts and labor not the consumer. Just like if my car is under manufacturers warranty parts and labor are covered by the manufacturer.
I wonder what kind of gun does he carry in that holster?
Sig
@@TedCookHVAC Ever had to use it on a unit? Finish it off! Put it out of it's misery! 😆
@@keithberryman7000 I imagine that would make all kinds of interesting commercials on it's "hard" to stop a .......
I must say you are very neat when working. I've watched others and man they are sloppy and inconsiderate.
Im sure some are thinking, hold on Ted. You didn’t test the fan capacitor. ECM fans don’t use a capacitor.
Those newer fan grille are stamped sheet metal, harder to deal with than their previous gen. Reminds me of Goodman thin sheet metal
imagine that, cheap cheap cheap, likely direct from china or mexico
NO!! They are from Tyler Texas... and those floppy fan lids are gone now... we are back to the old wire grill... take it off and cook on it !!
Thank goodness they have competent ppl
So 24 ac to communicate or dc communication.
AC
Thanks, I work with a company that does Trane units now. I know the carrier has to be checked at board with dc.
When you checked both the high and low voltage at the 6-terminal plug, you had 240V between red and black. Good. At the low voltage between yellow and blue you had low voltage. Good. Thus, the motor was receiving voltage and the low voltage signal. What is that low voltage reading between yellow and blue? You did not mention and I could not read the meter in the video. I ask because my ECM physically shows signs of failure. In testing the plug, I have 240Vac at the plug (black-red), but have 65Vac on the low side between yellow and blue on the plug. Is this 65Vac a normal reading?? Thank you
Energy efficient equipment does not save money,it just makes the home owner feel better about them self when they buy it . What ever you save in energy during the time it works is lost many times over when it breaks.
Incorrect.
I respect your opinion, and love you channel. Keep up the good work man . Do you have a video on this topic .
@@jenko701 maybe you should look at some Japanese made inverter AC systems. 10 year warranty and about a 50% reduction in electricity consumption.
bet the mov is bad cheap fix
Delivered $20k of R22 , called the fellow had half to drop , he was playing the market. Called & he was .. be there in 15-20 minutes, 30 minutes later he called , Where you at? I replied headed back to the shop, left it by the door! Ol boy about choked! lol! Said no waiting on you!! not gonna leave $10,000 worth unattended, but if you would have said 45 minutes I'd have got lunch!
Do you have a vid where you change the cooling motor on the xe1100 ?
As a 22 year electrician, im done with the trades, people are fucking liars. I will be playing my guitar like i should have done from the beginning.
I know your an anti Dyi, but how do you feel about me being a maintenance mechanic for 36 years. The AC company came out to fix my ac unit and quoted me $3500 to refill r22 freon, and install new evap coil. Well i did this my self for $500. I bought new coil and r22 replacement. Ac company wanted $100 a pound for freon. I know they have over head but thats a bit ridiculous . I did everything according to law concerning freon. Do you disagree i still did it myself.??? I know electrical and studied the hvac 1234 tests and actually did a very good job. But i also watched a few videos for back up purposes. I didn't need a recovery unit because i was so low on freon. Just pumped it into compressor. My question on diy people if your capable why not. I subscribe to your channel because im going to do AC REPAIR on the side
uhh, R22 replacement means, you need to fully evacuate the system and replace the gas! DO NOT mix it, which is what you did. so fail there....
David Hoffman Good for you glad to hear you save a ton of money. That quote seemed a little high. Usually homeowner's do repairs means more money being spent cause something will be messed up or missed. There is a lot of steps in replacing a part like thay not saying you did it wrong but if something is done the correct way to the T usually means something else will most liky break down the road. We charge a fee and have to make a buck like any business.
Freon at $100 a pound will be a bargain (maybe already is).
Thank you EPA and their henchmen, to wit:
Does the fact that there is 6 months of darkness at the south pole contribute to lack of ozone there?
Why doesn't Clorox, pool chlorine, or chlorine from seawater (NaCl "salt water) deplete ozone?
Why do CFC's only deplete ozone at the south pole?
Why are CFCs the only source of high-atmosphere chlorine?
Being heavier than air, how do CFCs reach the stratosphere, which starts 6 miles up?
Being heavier than air, what happens to CFCs when released into the atmosphere?
If the ozone hole was "discovered" in the late 70s with satellite imagery, how do we know it wasn't there all along?
The Ozone Scam
czcams.com/video/9Szs-treHwQ/video.html
Min 1:20 : The offending molecule is CHLORINE.
Min 3:30 : Freon costs 50 cents/pound to manufacture.
Min 2:40 : The biggest source of atmospheric CHLORINE is evaporation of seawater (NaCL in saltwater).
Climate 101: Ozone Depletion | National Geographic
czcams.com/video/aU6pxSNDPhs/video.html
Min 1:50 : The offending molecule is CHLORINE.
Min 0:50 : Ozone is a trace gas composing 3 parts per 10,000,000 molecules of AIR.
Lot of discussion of other sources of atmospheric chlorine:
www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/03/100310134150.htm
@@hg2. Dont forget the man who INVENTED global climate change. Maurice Strong. .A genius who managed to figure out how to tax the very air we breathe and convince a good proportion on the worlds population to believe in it. And I have always wondered how R12 got to the south pole considering it is heavier than air... The fact the patent ran out had nothing to do with that of course...
You'll have a premature compressor failure because of oil foaming due to the mixed refrigerants
why does most of the places have two outdoor units
Hello, thank you for this video. (I'm right in the middle of replacing my ECM Motor on my XL19i as well)
Could you tell me the amount of voltage present on the Blue and Yellow Wires, when they are commanding the ECM to run? (At 9:50 on your video)
Also, is it AC or DC?
I'm in Dallas and last Friday, the only dealer who had the motor in stock, wanted $750 for me to buy the motor from them.
I opted to purchase the ECM Motor on Ebay for $495 with shipping and tax.
To keep my family cool while waiting for Ebay's motor to arrive, I bought 3 Window AC Units from Lowes, for $540.
Total, I spent $1035.
$1035 - $750 (Local Dealer) = $285
So, for $285, I bought three, 5,000 BTU Window Units at $95/each.
The 3 window units will come out when the new ECM Motor goes in, later this week.
We'll keep the three window units as insurance for the next "Trane Moment"~
Andy Lowe
Arlington, TX
Measuring voltage on a working system, Red Volt Meter Lead on Yellow Wire, Black Volt Meter Lead on Blue Wire, you will find 6.189 VAC or 12VDC when the Fan is on and spinning. (I have two systems and was able to take a sample)
My new motor came in, was installed and worked for LESS than a day, and on my defective 4 Ton system, I have .o72 VDC across the Blue Wire and and the Yellow. I'm procuring a new Control Board now. (Board = D154153G01)
FT!! I'd return the window units until my bosses have to fix their ien air conditioning equipment and do all the work they get paid all the money for during the
Fkn week...Im up 3:30 in the morning sealing,mastiking,mastik taping,fkn metal taping, fkn squeegying, fighting a mfkn old coil out my tight ass attic fighting a mfkg new coil back into my tight ass attic 5:00am pulling a vacuum, 8;00 am finishing up cuz going ro sleep before then meant sleeping in my mfkn rruck because my wife thinks i plan everything... this wont fkn stay posted, my fkn facebook won't let me tell mfkrs they fkn asshole mfkrs... man!! FUCK!!
They shouldnt have to pay anything if its warranty work.
Why?
No labor or trip fee if it's past the 1 year mark? Lol.
wtf why isn't that circuit potted? It's outdoors, it needs to be conformal coated and sealed in a box, or potted to protect against moisture and vibration. Not a single resistor should be visible.
Bad, bad, bad. It did not show to hook up the wires.
I have no use for ECM’s, too unreliable and costly.
Sounds like the standby genset began than exercise cycle while you were working there.
"14 SEER"
In other words the Department of energy is dictating how efficient the unit is supposed to be.
Then, in order to meet these requirements, more complicated and expensive equipment is placed in service which breaks down (like ECM motors, delicate heat exchangers, ...) and ends up costing the customer more money than the less efficient units would.
Is that how it's working?
No.
In my opinion, yes. We've lost more energy and refrigerant in systems made after the 90s than any other period. Then again, they do take a lot less energy to run.
They've mostly fixed the leaking issues by going back to aluminum coils. ECM stuff just needs to be made better.
My parents have a 14 SEER Payne with a PSC condenser fan motor and ECM blower motor. ECM indoor blower motors have came a long way and have gotten so much better over the years. Mars has made really good programmable ECM motor rescue motors for small refrigeration equipment.
@@davidperry4013
ECMs cost $600.
Are you going to save $600 worth of electricity just to break even?
These were crammed down our throats by the stupid DOE (just like the complexity they are cramming into cars.)
@@sprockkets
Look at all the wasteful cr*p the consumer gets stuck with! Because of the EPA and its ozone depletion quackery!
The Nonsense That is Ozone-Depletion
"Holes" in the ozone argument:
1) Freon is heavier than air: how do molecules heavier than air get to 30,000 feet (the beginning of the stratosphere)?
2) The "hole" in the ozone over the South Pole was "discovered" by satellites in the '80: if it was just "discovered", how do we know IT WASN'T THERE ALL ALONG ? ? ? ?
3) There is a perfectly logical reason why there is less ozone over the polar regions: THERE IS LESS SUNLIGHT THERE TO PRODUCE OZONE IN THE FIRST PLACE, especially in winter ("land of the midnight sun...")
4) Antarctica (South Pole) has the highest average elevation of any continent (8000 ft): Does that have any effect on ozone quantity????? (The North Pole is all at sea level and there is no ozone "hole" there. (Why not?)
5) The offending atom is CHLORINE (very common), not CFCs themselves. The argument goes that the CFCs carry CHLORINE up to the stratosphere. There are other compounds of chlorine in the atmosphere -- that's one of the things you smell when you go to the beach --> "salt water" --> i.e. sodium-chloride. Is the ocean a source of "ozone depleting" chlorine compounds?
6) Most basic of all, ozone (O3) is an EFFECT of UV blockage, not a cause. [O3 is an unstable molecule that needs a lot of energy to produce, e.g. the ozone you smell around arcing engines. There is less ozone at the poles b/c there is less UV to generate it (just like there is less sunlight to keep the place warm in the first place.
I hope the public is beginning to see how dubious this ozone scam is. Monstrous mistakes like this DO happen - think the ban on DDT and malaria deaths.
The Ozone Scam
czcams.com/video/9Szs-treHwQ/video.html
The Nonsense That is Ozone-Depletion
www.ourcivilisation.com/ozone/king.htm+
Look how we've been "had" by this "ozone depletion" scam:
In other words, CFCs probably have NOTHING to do with Antarctic ozone:
czcams.com/video/lBu3vltczRw/video.html
In other words, the× Montreal Protocol is a complete fraud:
Min 0:30: "Measurement of SURFACE 'ozone depleting substances' (chlorine? are you measuring ALL atmospheric chlorine compounds?).
czcams.com/video/uVeTJSIbGm8/video.html
1987 - Montreal Protocol. Remember that date in this music-tracked piece of manipulative propaganda.
Listen for the weasel words and disclaimers.
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Ozone hole is "healing" (scientific term). Can't you tell?:
czcams.com/video/taTzqRHNIEc/video.html
A discussion of atmospheric chlorine:
api.nationalgeographic.com/distribution/public/amp/news/2010/3/100310-sea-spray-ocean-colorado-pollution
Natural Chlorine? You Bet! (American Chemistry Counsel)
"Many of these chemicals are identical to highly publicized manmade organochlorines: chlorophenols, chlorinated hydrocarbons, PCBs, CFCs and dioxins."
chlorine.americanchemistry.com/Background-Natural-chlorine-You-bet-/
Min 2:00 Listen carefully: in other words, the ozone hole has been there since AT LEAST the 50s, before CFCs were widely used.
Min 15:00 "interesting scientifically" - must be fun to have these kinds of research grants and boondoggles. Great work if you can get it.
czcams.com/video/AU0eNa4GrgU/video.html
How EPA is screwing up your car's air conditioning.
czcams.com/video/wm56tV5BbJk/video.html
Lousy car air conditioning:
czcams.com/video/5jKRiDtcBrs/video.html
Guy says we should use explosive propane as refrigerant
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Propane as a refregerant
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Why The Banning Of Chlorofluorocarbons Is Paranoia
www.ourcivilisation.com/ozone/index.htm
Min 6:00 -- two different kinds of chlorine... (yeah, right)
czcams.com/video/kmfAM8kQrjU/video.html
The stupid claim the ozone layer is "healing" ("healing" - is that a scientific term?)
Notice that the "hole" always goes away in Antarctic summer (more sunlight/more ozone produced) and reappears in Antarctic winter (no sunlight/no ozone produced (ozone is an unstable molecule to begin with)). We've been sold a load of cr*p that has made a hideous mess of the AC industry.
You'll see no change in hole size in the Antarctic winter, which means the "hole" has been there all along and is a perfectly natural and harmless phenomenon. "Oh well, we trashed an entire industry over a quack-science hoax... Sorry about that..."
czcams.com/video/krqHVzF3-T8/video.html
getem ted
Lol so your the guy that strips out all the screws
Couldn't one just change to a PSC motor and just upgrade the cap for it?
Sure but that would increase the electric consumption by about 20%
TXVs?
ECMs?
R410?
Paper-thin primary/secondary "90%" heat exchangers?
Capacitors that are always burning out because the replacement for PCBs don't work?
"You need a new system if you have an R22 leak" (??)
Do homeowners understand the screwing they are getting from the EPA and DOE?
Is the HVAC business really HVAC? Or is it an EPA-DOE enforcement business?
@Robert Slackware False dilemma. You can have both if you wish. Just realize that whether or not you believe in climate change, it still exists, and that wasting energy will catch up to all of us.
@Robert Slackware Ok so you basically removed any doubt you are brainwashed.
@Robert Slackware You've just made the stupid argument that just because one thing happened in the distant past that means humans can't be altering it now, because....oh wait what you call science we call making shit up from your gut.
Brain surgeon put the load control on here!!!!!😂😂😂😂
When I see stamped shhet metal turned into grill, I know this is some cheap piece of garbage. ICPs don't have that
Why do you remove your firearm for the video's?
Matt. 25:21,23----Jim
Ted's gayer than gay !!!
please try to be professional when trying to explain something because we don't all know certain ways of speaking
"What I aught a do" IS fix what the customer asked you to fix and not be disconnecting things that "I don't like", one day you will meet a homeowner that takes you to court for disconnecting things just because you don't like them.