Farming Remnants for AI Cores : Starsector

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  • čas přidán 29. 06. 2022
  • It feels so good to eventually figure out how to destroy the remnant fleets. We even managed to do it without having to spend a bunch of story points. I think this is the breaking point for the game. We can now take on the worst the sector has to throw at us. Also our colonies are looking pretty decked out in AI cores. Just one more episode and we should be finished up here.
    *Edit : should really have mentioned that LP brawlers have Accelerated Ammo Feeder, hell of a DPS increase.
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Komentáře • 263

  • @genericytprofile852
    @genericytprofile852 Před rokem +150

    Pilot 1: "Hey I heard you joined a new fleet."
    Pilot 2: "Yeah, but it's not that great."
    Pilot 1: "Really? That Max Stereotype guy is a legend."
    Pilot 2: "I'm a brawler pilot"
    Pilot 1: "My condolences.."

    • @randallporter1404
      @randallporter1404 Před rokem +4

      Hey (fake indignation), when I get an LP Brawler I pilot it, mostly. I let my hired captains have the cruisers, battleships and capitals. Anyway cool story clip.

  • @DawidSikora
    @DawidSikora Před rokem +98

    Initially deploy only paragon and when it finally goes through half the map add brawlers, they'll catch up in probably half a second and you won't be wasting their combat readiness

    • @dairiskuznecovs7233
      @dairiskuznecovs7233 Před rokem +9

      combat readiness starts decreasing when the enemy is on radar anyways so youre not wasting anything

    • @likeablekiwi6265
      @likeablekiwi6265 Před rokem +3

      @@dairiskuznecovs7233 nah, what he meant was that smaller ships have lower peak performance time so deploy capitals first.

    • @pashadanilov3490
      @pashadanilov3490 Před rokem +3

      @@likeablekiwi6265 peak performance starts going down once ship reaches the enemy

    • @likeablekiwi6265
      @likeablekiwi6265 Před rokem +2

      @@pashadanilov3490 ya?

    • @pashadanilov3490
      @pashadanilov3490 Před rokem +2

      @@likeablekiwi6265 ye

  • @bunstructors8591
    @bunstructors8591 Před rokem +33

    5:18 "Haven't lost any brawlers yet?" Moments before losing his own ship because he forgot to turn autopilot on 😂

  • @davidbass296
    @davidbass296 Před rokem +25

    I setup in a nexus area before. It was a struggle to keep my colonies defenses up high enough to keep the trading ships from being destroyed by the remnant fleets as the remnant gets stronger in the system the more you defeat so was a constant powerplay struggle.
    When I was able to maintain good defense though it was very profitable. Come back every so often to salvage from the wrecks and get plenty of AI cores mostly around my colonies too as the battlestations played a big role in defeating the bigger fleets.
    That all stopped though when a lone trade convoy decided to assault the nexus. I don't know why, I don't know how. But a trade convoy defeated the nexus. Out of all the fleets that could've attacked the nexus it was a trading fleet that decided to and won.

    • @Self-replicating_whatnot
      @Self-replicating_whatnot Před rokem +4

      Constantly farming Remnant fleets and shipping ai cores by the hundred to TriTachion sounds like a sound business model.

    • @davidbass296
      @davidbass296 Před rokem +1

      @@Self-replicating_whatnot that'll work until the nexus is destroyed by a defending fleet, or in my case a trade convoy. Maybe they just got caught up in the nexus when a already weakened remnant fleet attacked them. That's probably what happened here.

  • @tetrikitty1686
    @tetrikitty1686 Před rokem +85

    this series was really fun, sad it's ending

    • @Bronimin
      @Bronimin Před rokem +10

      him exploting the black market skipped 80% of the g ameplay

    • @Negniwret
      @Negniwret Před rokem +7

      That's actually exactly how I felt about my own gameplay. The galaxy just suddenly felt empty, I looked at the wiki and noticed there's nothing else to do
      All that's left now is modding

    • @tetrikitty1686
      @tetrikitty1686 Před rokem +1

      @@Negniwret if the wiki doesn't have any more goals, you can always make your own

    • @Negniwret
      @Negniwret Před rokem +6

      @@tetrikitty1686 yeah, but after raiding my enemies and outgunning their fleets, the game didn't feel very fun anymore vanilla. There's a mod that makes enemy factions respectable and lets them conquer each other (and you get to conquer planets for your faction, too)
      Looking forward to playing that, but currently not feeling like learning how to mod

    • @SamsTopBarBees
      @SamsTopBarBees Před rokem +1

      @@Negniwret Any really good game will let the player base mod it, only reason minecraft is still relevant.

  • @tobycat5799
    @tobycat5799 Před rokem +26

    Ahh, that moment where rimworld logic comes into play. Mini guns.. lots of mini guns.
    Love it

  • @sodernaut
    @sodernaut Před rokem +28

    Classic Francis finding the absolute limits of the game with maxing out the ship slots.

  • @MonsieurBro
    @MonsieurBro Před rokem +9

    Once again showing the human strategy of all-out offense and speed to just smash your opponents' faces in remains strangely still the best plan in almost everything

  • @stanleykitchen1730
    @stanleykitchen1730 Před rokem +31

    This series is absolutely brilliant!

  • @AstroBioMan
    @AstroBioMan Před rokem +5

    The LP Brawler is everything you could ever want - fast, surprisingly tanky, cheap, easy to outfit, and unbelievable damage with double chaingun and accel feed

  • @spoon1710
    @spoon1710 Před rokem +10

    Fun fact: There is a bounty that you can gain after defeating the Coronal Hypershunt Guardians from one of the contacts. I think it pays out like 1 mil plus but the main goal of it is the difficulty and the weapons you gain from it. It usually consists of 2 Radiants, onne very very angry dorito chip and a load(like 18-24) other remnant ships all with alpha ai cores.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem +4

      Oh joy, that sounds like it's going to hurt a lot.

    • @spoon1710
      @spoon1710 Před rokem

      @@FrancisJohnYT it can go horribly or really not that bad depending on what the angry dorito does. Because if it goes with the 2 radiants you are dead no matter what you have and how hard you try because the radiant soak while it just sucks you in to a black hole of death. But if it goes off to wander about killing the cheap ships like brawlers, scarabs, kites and what not then it's fine

    • @Bronimin
      @Bronimin Před rokem +1

      @@FrancisJohnYT there is also a funny bar event you can activate if you commission with the hegemony after having cleared the main quest

  • @jimbobjoeyjoeybobjim
    @jimbobjoeyjoeybobjim Před rokem +5

    Would love to see another play through at a harder difficulty or more drawn out progression, could watch so much more of this game.

  • @Cyenthies
    @Cyenthies Před rokem +9

    Imagine that the Brawlers are hopped up on the Lucy. At the very least, some go-juice, running in with the chain shotguns. With the Paragon slowly trundling in with it's Doomsdays, Charge Lances, and Emily Raybeams. 😎 All of 'em yelling bits and pieces of the ⚔Holy Stereotype Doctrine of Emily ⚔ as they close in, begin ringing those doorbells, and bringing the Word of Emily to the masses.

    • @mrShift_0044
      @mrShift_0044 Před rokem +1

      That's some HEAVY Mary(Emmy) Sue x Ma(x)rty Sue type of shit.
      These two, a lunatic and an all around cool guy could probably wipe the entire star map just for a couple of sweeps

  • @chetmanly8831
    @chetmanly8831 Před rokem +2

    This series was a fun and educational means to learn a complex game. I bought it last time you made a video on your starting method and now can reliably start and get a fleet going.

  • @MKhurramAziz
    @MKhurramAziz Před rokem +2

    Francis John discovers Zerg tactics - 2022 (colorized)

  • @SamsTopBarBees
    @SamsTopBarBees Před rokem +2

    I was trying to get this brawler strat to work, I almost gave up, they just seemed to be too cautious to be effective, they needed to push quickly to combat the remnant's ships, especially the way you demonstrate. Then I figured it out, what I was doing was setting the "full assault" toggle and positioning my paragon, what I didn't realize is giving ANY other commands turns off full assault mode. I think the AI gets in close enough to hit with all it's guns on full assault. It's like magic, makes a huge difference, once I realized that, it worked exactly like you showed. Otherwise the brawlers bounce around trying to find a "reasonable" opening to fire instead of piling in Kamikaze style. Very interesting quirk with the AI, I don't think this method would work unless you can make them all very aggressive.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      Exactly, the full assault is the special sauce, turns all the brawlers into reckless pilots and gives the enemy no chance to back off and vent flux.

  • @TTHJJD100
    @TTHJJD100 Před rokem +2

    Aggressive brawlers also make really good escorts for cracking defensive lines because they can blow up missiles with the guns they usually carry and if something aggressive tries to push you when you back to vent there's 2-3 brawlers jumping on their ass and probably overloading them if they aren't careful

  • @coconutcute712
    @coconutcute712 Před rokem +4

    I stayed up for so long that Francis John uploaded twice before I fell asleep. My sleep schedule is officially a mess.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem +2

      Damm I remember doing stuff like that back in the day, once did 72 hours straight and then passed out for 24 hours. Not any more though, messes me up for to long.

  • @TK-nn8jd
    @TK-nn8jd Před rokem +1

    Has officer with elite ballistics mastery, puts him in charge of a Paragon.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      Would have to go back and check but I assume they were a transfer from another ship that was ballistic? You need every captain you can get in a fight, increases your reinforcement points and increases the chances of recovering a ship if it is destroyed.

  • @KhongDatTenDuoc
    @KhongDatTenDuoc Před rokem +1

    Yeah, fight in the phone booth, but this time there are 3 of them . And if there is 1 down, 2 more are waiting to join the party.
    So much fun for the retracted

  • @Thaccus
    @Thaccus Před rokem +4

    Back in the day I played a fair amount of planetside. I would lead a group of small buggies that showed up in unusual places and unloaded minigun into unsuspecting vehicles. When you said "have you heard of our lord and savior.." my mind immediately went back to the recurring meme of the group. "Have you heard of our lord and savior: bullets? Have you received bullets into your heart today?" Raining minigun fire from a squad full of buggies was lovingly called "Spreading the good word"

  • @Foreststrike
    @Foreststrike Před rokem +2

    I can only imagine Brawlers literally pulling that Paragon into the warp speeds they're flying at.

  • @benjaminclement8437
    @benjaminclement8437 Před rokem +1

    Hey brother thank you for all your tutorials on starsector they have been a god send!
    I refined your strat by adding 3 Monitor's with no guns (the have 2 built in and are cheap to deploy) so the idea is deploy Paragon + Monitor's for distance than deploy Brawlers, what happens is by the time the Brawlers arrive the Monitors are in the middle of everything getting hit from all sides (they just dont care or die) the Paragon is getting up nice and close so the brawlers just fly in with most enemies having their rear to them. (harden sub systems/shields, front shield and solar shield for Monitors)
    I swapped the hyper velocity drivers for heavy needeler's to great effect, also if you swap out the high intense lasers for the gravton beams at the front and where the gravton beams were put tactical lasers your weapon/flux per sec will drop to 2308 that's around 40% less flux generation which is huge ;)

  • @rtek3541
    @rtek3541 Před rokem +1

    So I paid my respects at the alter of brawler and my god. Had lots of success waiting for them to clump up before waiting to spring the full assault.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      It really is a massive power jump and makes fights so much faster. None of this dancing about it's just charge and keep firing until they all explode.

  • @bafumier
    @bafumier Před rokem +1

    Really nice, found your channel on ONI. Starsector is soo good

  • @KainYusanagi
    @KainYusanagi Před rokem +4

    For this Brawler meta, you might actually want them set to Reckless; Aggressive still tries to pull back a lot, and don't do well with the reduced range. EDIT: Also, damn, I made an aside last episode about using a Paragon and lots of dual machine guns for remnant fleets, who knew that it'd be accurate (I *did* say that it would take player input, which I was wrong on)? Just needed to slap the machine guns on the Brawler, hah.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem +1

      I have unpiloted ships set to max aggression but they are still to wimpy, clicking the full assault button tends to resolve that problem.

    • @KainYusanagi
      @KainYusanagi Před rokem +2

      @@FrancisJohnYT As far as I know, un-captained AI ships default to Steady (including enemy AI ships); thus why you want those few Brawlers piloted by your officers to instead be piloted by Reckless captains, as they will barge in willy-nilly and create opportunities for the un-captained AI ships. Full Assault makes them a bit more aggressive, but still nowhere near the aggressiveness of a Reckless Captain. Definitely wouldn't suggest Reckless Onslaught captains, though, regardless.

    • @derkylos
      @derkylos Před rokem +1

      @@KainYusanagi Reckless Onslaughts are so much fun tho. "Let me shove my ship in your face, then fire the burn drives"...

  • @jamesb7994
    @jamesb7994 Před rokem +1

    I hear danny devito saying "So anyway, I started blasting."

  • @ProudVet-Russ
    @ProudVet-Russ Před 10 měsíci

    23:45 when someone is laughing like 'that', they are having too much fun.

  • @mageofvoid4282
    @mageofvoid4282 Před rokem +2

    i remeber playing this game a few years ago and I think I came up with a similar fleet style of tons of small ships and 2-3 big ships.

  • @Kaldris
    @Kaldris Před rokem +43

    I'm conflicted by this series. The game is great, and I love what's going on overall, but it's missing something that the Wife and I noticed near the end of ONI; Challenge. You mentioned how difficult and rewarding it was to take down the first paragons after so much failure, but in video form this entire series has been Success -> Success -> Success
    Maybe We're alone, and the majority want to see the progress and the success, but it just doesn't feel as fun as when you're actively challenged and trying to solve a problem.

    • @CAMSLAYER13
      @CAMSLAYER13 Před rokem +4

      Yea, this is the kinda game where if you know what you are doing its pretty hard to mess up. A lot of going through the motions trying to get money so you can afford cool fights.

    • @fernandocardia1776
      @fernandocardia1776 Před rokem +2

      Yeah, Playing the game along with the series really makes you appreciate how tough the Capital Remnant ships are, you don't really get a sense for it in the videos.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem +38

      I sent all day yesterday in a debug save dying to remnant fleets a lot. Just so much. I tried way to many different tactics trying to beat them.
      I got really salty with how hard it was, the girlfriend peaked her head in and though I was angry with her because of the look on my face 😅
      Not sure that is something I should be including, but I should have showed what happened if we sent in the Eradicator fleet.

    • @salemprompthous3820
      @salemprompthous3820 Před rokem +6

      @@FrancisJohnYT on the off chance you have footage of it, maybe put it up as an "extra tidbit"? Would be great having a camera on you aswell, so we can see the frustration on your face 🤣

    • @KainYusanagi
      @KainYusanagi Před rokem

      @@CAMSLAYER13 More specifically, players tend to avoid situations where it is a near thing or a losing proposition, in general, and only take fights they know they can win, if possible.

  • @johannesdesigbjorn8033
    @johannesdesigbjorn8033 Před rokem +8

    I prefer calling onslaught a Big Chungus, its actually a really good "tank" for its cost to deploy, i always have 1 in my fleet. Also never saw a man who relies only on autopilot. I personally like to fly in burst damage ships like sunder to quickly hit like a truck with plasma canon and run. So far enjoying your series, but at that stage that you are in i am usually dropping a save cause its too boring to play and nothing can stop you.
    And i am vondering why are you not using mods? You definetly an experienced player, arent you bored with vanilla already? :D

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem +2

      I like to see how far you can take a game without mods, if I wanted to we could edit the fleet size for example but it's not the same. Beating a couple of Remenant fleets at the same time using Vanilla mechanics just feels really good.

    • @KnightNave
      @KnightNave Před rokem +1

      @@FrancisJohnYT the fleet size is a soft cap, if your in system/close to a gate. You can just eat the supply cost.

  • @cfalde
    @cfalde Před rokem +2

    "I could watch that stuff all day"
    Well goodnthing it's your job, then

  • @Akideoni
    @Akideoni Před rokem +1

    Ye old brawlers earn matey a subscription!

  • @alexmiller3349
    @alexmiller3349 Před rokem +5

    From my experience 6 eradicators with a similar design to yours can take on one drone battleship with escorts, so maybe eradicators and gunboats to deal with escorts quickly?
    The droneship is good against a single target that melts quickly, so many encircling it and working through its shields and fragile armor seems to be enough.
    also maybe trying to capture drone ships with that perk will work too.

    • @alexmiller3349
      @alexmiller3349 Před rokem +1

      Also idk if that's what you intended but your paragon seems to be more of a support ship, incapable of taking on other targets by its own, like almost any ship with mostly beam weapons.
      Try changing it's armament to pulse weapons, it may be more efficient (but still will need escorts tho)

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem +3

      I was trying to make a damage Paragon but if I put higher damage weapons nothing gets close enough to it, this version is helping a bit at least. If you check the outro it's present at most of the battleship deaths. I was thinking of swapping it out for two Conquests.

    • @KainYusanagi
      @KainYusanagi Před rokem +2

      @@FrancisJohnYT What about three Eradicators? They'd provide hard flux damage to shields at similar ranges to those beams, while also being much faster. Just wouldn't be as tanky as the Paragon is, individually.

  • @starlightbreaker561
    @starlightbreaker561 Před rokem +3

    it's a shame to hear this series is ending

  • @bryancraggs94
    @bryancraggs94 Před rokem +1

    Murder Hornet fleet. I like it.

  • @beerkiller
    @beerkiller Před rokem +2

    Not quite finished building my eradicator fleet but that one looks more fun🍺

  • @josefrees
    @josefrees Před rokem +2

    I started playing and I found brawler and based off of your style I was like “little eradicator???”

    • @josefrees
      @josefrees Před rokem +1

      It’s like some big guns on some rockets lol

  • @nathanielneidlinger3958
    @nathanielneidlinger3958 Před rokem +1

    LOVE. THE. OUTRO. MUSIC.

  • @DyeSueKey
    @DyeSueKey Před rokem +3

    A new fleet worthy of Emily's holy name!

  • @diggdugg
    @diggdugg Před rokem +1

    This has been a good series. So this whole episode you kept say full assault, I kept hearing full of salt. I think I like that more. Ether way ty for the content.

  • @TheyCalledMeT
    @TheyCalledMeT Před rokem +1

    17:53 helmsmanship, something your paragon could use (19:15)

  • @ahmataevo
    @ahmataevo Před rokem +1

    If you manually pilot a Ziggurat with 4 heavy needlers and 2 lances, with the right skill specs and S mods you can almost solo 3 remnant fleets all at once. CR time is your limit, not damage taken.

  • @dreamboatcap
    @dreamboatcap Před rokem +1

    23:45 Evil person laugh

  • @jimm9776
    @jimm9776 Před rokem +1

    It took me a while before I realized "full assault" wasn't Francis saying such and such was "full o'salt"...

  • @JoshWatts
    @JoshWatts Před rokem +1

    Gotta love the dakka-zerg-rush ;-D

  • @Dragoncri
    @Dragoncri Před rokem +1

    FOR THE SWARM!

  • @IamAlpharius30k
    @IamAlpharius30k Před rokem +2

    you can edit your fleet size in the json files and also your deployment points

  • @ahmataevo
    @ahmataevo Před rokem +2

    The devs are NOT going to patch out overpowered low-tech fleets and designs because for over a year now they've developed a sudden opposition to high tech fleets, with compounding nerfs to the ships, skills and hullmods while introducing more and more OP low tech stuff.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      I can't figured out what they are trying to do with beams, all the skills and mods to boost damage reduce your range. Yet all beam ships tend to be glass cannons that can't survive close combat. Which leads me to believe they are only good on player controlled phase ships. Outside of that they are mostly beaten out by the ballistic weapons when it comes to AI control. Well except for the High Intensity Laser, that thing is quality.

    • @ahmataevo
      @ahmataevo Před rokem

      @@FrancisJohnYT - I think that was their way to balance beams for being near insta-hit, guaranteed focus weapons where fast ships can dodge other types. If you can apply hard flux with other weapons, then twin tac lance / twin ion beam will keep an enemy ship disabled even through their shields, so they are situational that way. Paragon can overpower most things with 4 tac lances and 2 HVD's, with tactical venting for flux control. Overall, usage for lasers seems highly situational, specific to a role, and other weapons are generally better for straight up combat.

  • @Berathan-dnd
    @Berathan-dnd Před rokem +4

    One of those battleships and two cruisers hurt me very much. Would hate fighting double that.
    Also I tried exploring a solar hypershunt in a unary star system. . . I had to reload after everything died.

    • @Saturas35142
      @Saturas35142 Před rokem +1

      Happened to me too, first time playing the game, easily disposing Pirates and then I got cocky while exploring.... my whole Fleet (even with some Capitals) got smoked in seconds... yeah let's not touch them for a while :)

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem +1

      I sent in my eradicator fleet ages ago to have a look at the Doritos.... decided that I would wait until I could take the redacted before going back.

  • @LowSettings
    @LowSettings Před rokem +1

    Magnificent!

  • @Tactcat
    @Tactcat Před rokem +2

    path brawlers?! can't wait to hear this
    i tend to do the built-in augmented field drives too! gotta get around

    • @JimJamTheAdmin
      @JimJamTheAdmin Před rokem

      If you have better deserved S-mods, from the forums mod page, it also gives a 30% fuel discount when built in. Very good for fast high tech exploration, no slowdown in Nebulas if your burn is like 11/12.

  • @TheSummersilk
    @TheSummersilk Před rokem +3

    You breathe life into a game I tried and didn't enjoy. Still don't enjoy it, but like watching lol

  • @attila535
    @attila535 Před rokem

    Those brawlers ares like a swarm of angry bees.

  • @qwe-80085
    @qwe-80085 Před rokem +1

    you can just click+c on enemy ships and it will designate 2 or 3 ships who ever is near the enemy ships. they become more coordinated and effective, this works on capture points to.

  • @radioman5825
    @radioman5825 Před rokem +1

    ah so brawler, clasic built.
    i also using that for farming redacted.
    cant be stoped, this fleet just absolutly destroy anything

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      I was looking for the cheapest amount of flux dissipation for the DP and the LP Brawler just jumped out as the clear winner. The LP Lasher was going to be my second choice.

  • @ctrlfrk
    @ctrlfrk Před rokem +2

    To play a more swarmy style I'd recommend the "Fleet Size By DP" mod. It changes the 30 ship limit to a 600 DP limit (equivalent to 30 ships with 20 DP each). That way you can have 100 small 6 point ships or 10 large 60 point ships.

    • @KainYusanagi
      @KainYusanagi Před rokem +1

      Larger fleet size simply favours the player immensely. Same with increasing the deployment point values (even though they're an option in the game options by default). It sucks out all the challenge, and frankly, most of the fun, since you barely have anything to risk overcoming any more. There's a reason why most of the mods, especially the ones most talked about, increase difficulty while giving everyone more things to play around with.

  • @oscarnieves6451
    @oscarnieves6451 Před rokem +1

    "there gonna patch this out it's way to overpowered" didn't know this game was made by klei

  • @hansdampf640
    @hansdampf640 Před rokem

    two conquest and rest eradicators work quite well against those radiant,takes a little bit of encirclement manouvers tough

  • @SpicySpleen
    @SpicySpleen Před rokem +1

    I love your Ideas on how to build fleets! :D I got to try thin in my own playthrough now.

  • @Self-replicating_whatnot

    Covered in bees!

  • @rungus24
    @rungus24 Před rokem +1

    death by mosquitoes.

  • @chrisnoneofyours8988
    @chrisnoneofyours8988 Před rokem +1

    usefull, thanks man.

  • @unit-0-
    @unit-0- Před rokem +1

    I like using swarms of ships too. Try out using the Tempest instead of the Brawlers. Yes they require double the points to enter (8 vs 4) and are more difficult to get in the beginning, but without safety overrides are still faster than a brawler, and I have tested repeatedly with them and they can 1v2 Brawlers and Auditors, or any mix of 2 frigates that I have found, OR almost any destroyer, etc..
    The setup I use is simple: Tempest with double lance, empty missile slot as their drones can and do suicide as a guided missile, shield stabilizers and advanced optics to give them that advantage in shooting at a distance. Mix that with their speed and they just wreck just about everything.

    • @unit-0-
      @unit-0- Před rokem +1

      Also later in the game, the Afflictor class frigate swarm with triple antimatter blasters and extended magazines; the other two slots just something to keep applying pressure for the few short moments it's not in phase. And just yikes!!

  • @Funnydz2
    @Funnydz2 Před rokem +5

    Tachyon lance for paragon might be good idea... at least i think he can use it...
    Still tho this build is pretty much the exact oposite i would ever use :D Still hilarious to watch tho...

    • @vladdrakuul
      @vladdrakuul Před rokem

      Was scrolling for this one tachyon lance paragon is the closest thing to OP the base game has imo.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      So what 4 Tachyon lances? what else? I admit I only put a small amount of time into the paragon.

    • @KainYusanagi
      @KainYusanagi Před rokem

      @@FrancisJohnYT Tach lances for large slots, pulse lances for mediums, you can do a massive pulse hit that way, perhaps? It's risky without having a decent flux pool, and if you get flux'd up, you get screwed up more, if you have everything linked together, but if they're *hard* flux'd up, then you can actually just outright penetrate their shields with tach lances.
      If they didn't have abysmal range base (400), I'd even say Antimatter Blasters for the smalls; tac lasers are just the superior small slot for cap ships; an array of those can obliterate things that get in range, but they're not meant for a Paragon, frankly.
      If Gravitons actually did more than an abysmal 100 DPS, I'd be happier to recommend them more for medium slots, but with AI ships typically having few mods and everything stuffed into vents and caps, it just isn't worth it on its own. If it gave hard flux natively, then I'd be 100% for it, but as is I just cannot recommend it *for this cap ship*.
      The setup you have now is a pretty great disco suppression setup, in general, but I'd swap in Ion Beams for an all-beam setup over Gravitons, since they can arc through shields more as more *hard* flux is built up and start shutting down systems; either way, make sure you use the Advanced Optics mod for beam weapon-focused ships, since it gives an extra 200 su range, and that stacks with the Integrated Targeting Unit.

    • @Funnydz2
      @Funnydz2 Před rokem

      @@FrancisJohnYT Tachyon lances are great at overheating enemy shields since they do a lot of flux dmg... for the rest i would use long range lasers and LRPDs just to keep constant heat on enemy armor and hull once the shields are down... you are already using the mod that increases range of beam and laser weapons so might aswell go full lasershow :D

  • @legion499
    @legion499 Před rokem +1

    Im not 100% on this but... I think Full Assault is a Last Order kinda thing. Giving an order after that resends the full assault order.

  • @KFishproductionII
    @KFishproductionII Před rokem +2

    If you want to try a frigate that is built for disposability, get vanguards. They can fit 3 missiles, 3 guns, and damper shields instead of normal shields (which reduce damage instead of blocking it).

    • @KFishproductionII
      @KFishproductionII Před rokem +1

      basically a missile boat as opposed to a gunboat (brawler)

    • @KFishproductionII
      @KFishproductionII Před rokem +1

      get some vanguards with atropos torpedos alongside the brawlers and you'll have extra missile damage

  • @zekialhabib
    @zekialhabib Před rokem +1

    23:45 Death by puppies!

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      I still smile thinking about nibbling those Radiant ships to death, I hate them so much after all the pain they gave me and finding a way to slaughter them we so cathartic.

  • @CN-yb5gn
    @CN-yb5gn Před rokem +1

    “The thought of sending wave after wave of my own men to die for my own amusement, its just great”

    • @CN-yb5gn
      @CN-yb5gn Před rokem +1

      “Stop toying with your food, FINISH THEM”

    • @CN-yb5gn
      @CN-yb5gn Před rokem +1

      “This is a knife fight”

    • @CN-yb5gn
      @CN-yb5gn Před rokem +1

      “I have slaughtered so many of these, its been incredibly therapeutic”

    • @CN-yb5gn
      @CN-yb5gn Před rokem +1

      “Let’s go up against those nasty dorito-looking things”

  • @Gerunchick
    @Gerunchick Před rokem

    Yay, new video

  • @Exterestix
    @Exterestix Před rokem +1

    dram spam is fun

  • @tomaka121
    @tomaka121 Před rokem +2

    man that paragon pilot is so bad - no shields at low flux, not shooting plasma cannons :D

  • @slegy4990
    @slegy4990 Před rokem

    SAD MI DIDN'T GOT NOTIVIED OF THAT SERIES EVEN THAT I HAVE a BELL on you're channel

  • @fluffytowels1145
    @fluffytowels1145 Před rokem +1

    You *can* bring more than 30 ships, it however increases supply cost by a lot

  • @SamsTopBarBees
    @SamsTopBarBees Před rokem +1

    That brawler strat is epic! I took 2x Conquests and 6 eradicators to that hypershunt fight and got wiped. I've noticed that my eradicator fleets are good against larger targets but if there are swarms of smaller ships it doesn't do as well. The way I managed those remnant battleships was to push them hard, if you let them they will just bounce around and grind your fleet down while your guys are spreading out their firepower everywhere else (I say managed but I mean survived). I'm going to try that brawler strat with carriers, I'm wondering how it would fair, the carriers don't even have to engage AND they provide distance point defense. Thanks for the vid!

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem +1

      I lost a lot of fights before I stumbled into Brawlers, I think it's the constant pressure and decent damage that does it. The enemy get no respite and gets attacked from all sides. It's the only way you get to outnumber the enemy.

    • @eldrinpaulgok-ong3450
      @eldrinpaulgok-ong3450 Před rokem +1

      6 onslaughts with buttload of PD makes that fight way easy

  • @ericevans9186
    @ericevans9186 Před rokem

    Wonder what a TT version of the brawler do with graviton beams and tactical lasers?

  • @jaon4706
    @jaon4706 Před rokem +1

    Grwat series. I've seen other videos where carries are op. I wonder how they would work out for you?

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      I hear in the last patch the "converted hanger" allowed you to make overpowered carrier fleets but it got nerfed into the ground in the current patch so carriers fell out of fashion.

  • @TheyCalledMeT
    @TheyCalledMeT Před rokem +1

    your paragon has troubble to get close enough .. may exchange the 2 plasma cannons with a good laser (high intensity for massive armor dmg or phase lances for their nice emp effects) i REALLY don't understand why there's no large long range anti shield laser .. really really weird thing ..

  • @pboi9485
    @pboi9485 Před rokem

    Im really interested on knowing more about this game. Would u consider making a full tutorial?😥

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem +1

      Did you see the early to mid game tutorial I did several months back? Gets you to the money stages pretty quick.
      czcams.com/video/ao86PSYVLUs/video.html

  • @julescasey181
    @julescasey181 Před rokem +1

    Francis, not sure if I just missed it, but can you please list the mods you are using?

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      Added the mods to the description
      Mods:
      Detailed comabt Results 5.2.1
      SpeedUp 0.7.2

  • @arytisskaldaka7963
    @arytisskaldaka7963 Před rokem +1

    playing this myself and ... im using like 10 brawlers as hunter killer frigates. Ive got 3 Battleships and a a large number of fast cruisers in my fleed, but the brawlers suprise me . i got them outfitted with reinforced hulls and aux thrustersa as well as the built in over ride and ... they are SO fast and nimble they dodge most damage aimed at them

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      LP Brawlers are just monstrous, the deployment cost compared to flux/damage is just unbeatable.
      Compare it to the Hammerhead which is it's bigger brother the Brawler is half the cost to deploy, twice the flux dissipation, and almost twice the speed. While being far more capable of dodging shots due to it's size and speed. It is my preferred ship spam for killing enemy fleets fast.

    • @arytisskaldaka7963
      @arytisskaldaka7963 Před rokem

      I got a doom, slapped alot of ion weapons on it ( 6 cannons and 2 heavy blasters) with 2 annihlator pods, then for extra meme... i put saftey override on it. Im quick and nimble, and the moment i get past a sheild i keep a ship permantly stunlocked as i just beat on it with rockets. further plan is to build in saftey, and either go for expanded missles or go with aux thrusters for more agility. right now its fast and i generate 0 flux with my weapons thanks to my dissipation.. its kinda scarry

  • @Juticar
    @Juticar Před rokem

    I would love to see some carrier gameplay

  • @mr.g1672
    @mr.g1672 Před 2 měsíci

    Ok I've been making good use of the brawlers ever since i got their blueprint, however, the combat readiness means they are incredibly expensive to repair after battle. Do you guys know of a good replacement that could do a similar job?

  • @justliving920
    @justliving920 Před rokem +1

    This has been a fun series. Do you have any interest in playing more Rimworld, especially with the new DLC, I think it would be fun.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      I'll go back to Rimworld in a bit, just got to make a brief stop in Kenshi first.

  • @custume
    @custume Před rokem

    nice fleet

  • @harriel001
    @harriel001 Před rokem +1

    You should have pointed out that the LP Brawlers don't just have Safety Overrides built in, but they also have Accelerated Ammo Feeders instead of the Maneuvering Jets that normal Brawlers have. So their DPS is way higher than it appears by the numbers. You may want to try replacing the Heavy Machine Gun with a Thumper. Flak weapons do a lot more damage to hull than anything else so once you've stripped the armor on those large ships you'll kill them faster that way.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem +1

      I hear thumpers struggle against heavy armour even after it's been stripped.
      "The armor value used in the damage reduction calculation cannot be less than 5% of its normal peak value."
      But I do have access to the battle reports mod and I can run it a bunch of times with different weapons to figure out what's better.

    • @harriel001
      @harriel001 Před rokem +1

      @@FrancisJohnYT yeah, I've gotten conflicting info over the years about whether or not that min armor value is still treated as Armor by Fragmentation weapons. It makes more sense to me that it wouldn't and the full value of the weapon's damage would be applied because that makes more sense to me from a game balance standpoint. But from a programing view I can understand if the armor is just treated as having a minimum value and thus always reduces frag damage even if it's just a single point of armor.
      I've tried testing it but I never had the battle reports mod so I was never sure.

  • @topho
    @topho Před rokem +1

    You address my same hate for those blue robotic damn ships!!! I hate 'em soooooooooooo much, specially the biggest one (forgot the name). I just can't take 'em down, but I guess I have to redefine my fleet

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      I spent a whole day trying to figure out how to kill them, I died so many times.

    • @topho
      @topho Před rokem

      @@FrancisJohnYT I know I suck at the game; I don't know how to pilot the ships correctly and stuff. But I just can't beat them with my mostly capital ships fleet

  • @qwe-80085
    @qwe-80085 Před rokem +1

    did you just turn on full assault then convoy order?? that tunns off full assault you know that right??

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      Figured that out about 2 fights later. You can only give destroy orders and still keep full assault on.

  • @joshuamidgette4846
    @joshuamidgette4846 Před rokem +1

    Salvage the AI battleships and pair with the blue battlecruiser for fast heavy assaults.

  • @brokentoes6721
    @brokentoes6721 Před rokem +1

    Ah man, I stopped playing after I lost 4 Alpha cores from a hegemony inspection.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      Bribe them or kill them, better yet wipe out the hegemony all together.

  • @_Some_Random_Dude
    @_Some_Random_Dude Před 6 měsíci

    Did you set fleet doctrine to reckless? Those brawlers seem so timid.

  • @Taco_By
    @Taco_By Před rokem

    But what is that conquest build tho?? :(
    And here i wanted to copy it

  • @Zomb13Hunt3r
    @Zomb13Hunt3r Před rokem +1

    So this is what happens when a Pawn of Emily's Ex's escapes to the stars...

  • @redknight3439
    @redknight3439 Před rokem

    Hi, you can have more then 30 ships in ur fleet you just need to edit the config file, I have mine set to 50
    a Whole day spent lookin for a fleet... to beat those... So Where are the Monitor Ships to tank the radiant? 1 of those can easy tank a radiant while the para nibbles em down.

  • @randallporter1404
    @randallporter1404 Před rokem +1

    24:10 I spend hours flying around looking for one. Just one. I have no planet(s) let alone heavy industry. So I assume you found the blueprint and made these. In that case, yeah, cheap.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      They are only available on Luddic path or Luddic Church planets I believe, you can have keep chekcing as the inventory's refresh. If you don't have a colony you could try and obtain the blueprints they are a common find, then look in bars for someone who has (spare military fab slots) they can produce them for you, though depending on how lucky you are you might only get enough production for three though it could go as high as 30.

  • @0x0404
    @0x0404 Před rokem +1

    Most of the game is well designed but I feel like the 30 fleet limit is super arbitrary. It should be based on something like fleet composition. Something where a capital ship or other logistic type ships would facilitate a larger fleet size. It could be balanced in a way that for most practical applications it ends up around 30 but still. Something more fluid than hard.

    • @Izithel
      @Izithel Před rokem +1

      It's very easy to change the max size in the Settings.json file if you want to, I believe the dev was thinking of something more like what you have with fuel and supplies where you can carry more but at a heavy penalty, tough I think that was at least some years ago.
      Having put the limit up in my games I can understand why the cap exists tough, the game's balance goes to strange places quickly where early on the absolute death stacks will make it impossible for the player, but later on the increased fleet size allow one to absolutely cheese the AI in ways it can't handle...
      Also it turns fights into long slogs if you don't also increase the battle size limit as you'll be camping the enemy side of the field waiting for their reinforcements to trickle in, but if you change the battle size limit the AI can't really handle having so many ships in play at once.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      I have not tried any of the other frigates this way, but being able to pressure the enemy with so many ships really hurts their ability to vent. I can see why the fleet limit would help avert that a bit. Though I think fleet class limits may become a thing, like 2 capital, 4 cruiser, 8 destroyers and 16 frigates or something like that. Though I'm not sure I would like that either.

    • @0x0404
      @0x0404 Před rokem

      It is good to see you got a lot of use out of a mass group of(the best) frigates but the limit feels like it pressures you to use larger ships since they both take up 1 slot.

  • @davidbass296
    @davidbass296 Před rokem +1

    You know, an astral can beat a paragon in 1v1. No commander on either ship but of course astral has to be heavily specced for paragon assault.
    I bet an astral can beat a radiant in a 1v1 fight with the right setup. Fighters with ion cannons covering the brawlers can also be a big help for taking down faster ships by disabling their engines. If only combat simulations allowed testing against radiant ships. The ship list seems to be quite outdated as it's even missing quite a few standard ships to face off against.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      A radiant is a beast to fight against, it's ability to phase skip in and out makes it almost impossible to kill one on one without tricks. I died so many times in testing before I found a fleet that could take them on.

  • @robjones9128
    @robjones9128 Před rokem +1

    There tough because the new update slams a lvk 20 captain in every AI ship.

  • @ArkadyK
    @ArkadyK Před rokem +1

    Hey Francis, would you ever consider playing Project Zomboid?

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      It's on the list, have seen enough already I know you need to tune into the TV to get exp boots for some of the skills.

  • @ElTuristaTravel
    @ElTuristaTravel Před rokem

    FJ
    IN
    SPAAAAAAAAAACE