Planting in the Tracks of Goodyear LSWs - A Yield Crusher or Inflator?
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- čas přidán 15. 07. 2024
- We tested 2 different tractors with 2 different tire setups to see what happens when you plant corn and soybeans into a Goodyear LSW tire track. See the effect of these tires on soil compaction, final stand establishment, plant and root development, and yield.
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For those of you who have planted with Goodyear LSW super singles, what are your thoughts on these tires?
Hi there,
I noticed you put stress that the air pressure shouldn't be more than 15 PSI; however Titan set up 17 psi in the front (check czcams.com/video/ZvW8K6inws0/video.html&app=desktop).
Could you give your view please?
@Ntstiresupply This is a good unbiased video!
HOWEVER, I think for a fair test you need an identical tractor and planter setup. The only difference then being the tires.
What a great refreshing video. Not a snake oil salesman. There are no miracles but if you give the information needed we can choose if these are of benefit to our systems. I'm sure this set up will suit a lot of people.
Thank you! We're glad you appreciate the video. We do projects like this one to (1) help farmers make informed decisions to improve their operations and (2) help our team better understand what works and what doesn't so that we can advise our customers on their best options.
awesome info
Thank you!
I want LSW for my John Deere 3046-R with cab.!!! 😁⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
Interesting and very informative video I’d love to see a comparison with all three (1100,1400, and tracks) on same make model tractor and identical planters.
Glad you liked it! We are looking for the opportunity to do a comparison with tracks and super singles. Be sure to subscribe so you are notified if we can make it happen.
@@NTSTireSupply Deere just released the 8rx... So you could use the 8rt 8rx and the 8400 tondo the test
On a tongue drawn planter, you could run a 3pt tool bar with vertical tillage disc between the tractor and planter to practically eliminate compaction.
On a 3 pt mounted planter, one could mount vertical tillage discs on the planter before the row cleaners...
There’s always an answer, you just have to keep asking questions.
Good thinking. Sounds like a similar idea to Yetter's TrackTill®. Limit the compaction you create, and then remove the compaction you can't avoid.
Exactly, spending big money on new tires ain't going to help anybody. There's a simple solution just like you pointed out. After treatment of compacted soil is easier and cheaper. I ain't buying the kernel count and root development differences either. Air pressure is important, but I can't see an increase of 5-6 bushels an acre.
@ ... in an ideal world, but not all compaction occurs during planting. Pre-planting tillage and the previous years tillage, spraying, combining and grain carts all play a part in the problem, especially if any of the them happened in less than ideal conditions. Not trying to pick an argument or saying this is the solution for everyone but anything that can help avoid compaction that is cost effective over the longer term is worth a look. With machinery in every step of the process getting bigger and heavier the more you can reduce damage to the soil structure the less costly remedies such as sub soiling or deep chisel ploughing (which can cause there own issues with errosion etc) have to be undertaken. ☺
@@chucklesx True enough.
@ to be fair it's also region specific, if you tried them in most of Europe it would cost you a fortune in over width load permits and escort vehicles anytime you needed to use the public road. In some countries you'd only be able to travel during certain hours at night. ☺
Did your notice the planters running in the tire track bouncing or vibrating much compared to the ones not running in tire track?
One of the planters had Precision Planting's 20/20 system on it, and the farmer said there was no difference in what is called the "Good Ride". If you're familiar with Precision's system, that tells you whether or not the row unit is staying in uniform contact with the ground (measures bouncing). We also dug in the furrow behind the tractor tracks and did not see any differences in depth and singulation as far as we could tell.
Do u think the difference between the two came from the fact that 1 planter was mounted on the 3point vs the other being pulled from the drawbar?
We believe the difference was because of the additional weight that the 3-point mounted planter (with saddle tanks) put on the tractor which then required additional tire air pressure to carry the load. But if the tractors were the same weight, the only difference being 3-point mounted vs pull-type, we wouldn't expect to see a difference in performance.
Too big for my Toro 522xi garden tractor.
Now if the government would just release the technology that makes saucers levitate we could skip expensive tracks and wide tires.
What is the comparison with tracks?
We haven't done any in-field trials ourselves comparing the compaction effects of tracks versus tires. We want to though! Although it's easy to think that tracks will most certainly compact less than tires (since they have the largest footprint), this is not necessarily the case. High-pressure points caused by the mid rollers can cause more compaction than a properly inflated tire. The advancements in IF/VF tire technologies and the introduction of tire inflation systems could make tires the way of the future. You might find the following article comparing the compaction effects of tires vs. tracks interesting: www.ntstiresupply.com/ptk-shared/tires-vs-tracks-which-creates-less-compaction
The quality, durability, and finished appearance of Goodyear farm tires has been awful for the last 15 years. The only increase in Goodyear is the price. I hate to buy foreign tires, but I can't afford not to.