2022 Kia EV6 | The Future of Normal Cars?

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  • čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
  • We review the 2022 Kia EV6, the twin brother of the Hyundai Ioniq5. Kia promises this mainstream EV will be a widely available and great alternative to Tesla Model 3 and VW ID4. We discuss how it's made, the engineering, and the pros and cons.
    #cars #kia #ev6
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    Index:
    00:00 Interior, Exterior, and Audio
    3:03 Mechanical Impressions
    8:58 Driving Impressions
    14:40 Final Thoughts
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Komentáře • 733

  • @mattspeer01
    @mattspeer01 Před 2 lety +530

    My dad saw 10 of these being unloaded from a truck at his local Kia dealer about 6 weeks ago. He came back the next day and they were all marked up $12K over MSRP. Cool car, but not worth paying for the stupid "regional market adjustments." I still prefer the Ioniq 5 overall, both inside and out.

    • @henrik1743
      @henrik1743 Před 2 lety +88

      Feels good not to be American reading about dealer markups on every car

    • @cwx8
      @cwx8 Před 2 lety +95

      I cannot understand why kia and Hyundai refuse to step in on their disgustingly bad dealer service

    • @iCoolaxe
      @iCoolaxe Před 2 lety +33

      @@henrik1743 They do get the benefit of dirt cheap gasoline for regular ICE cars though.

    • @tominftlthomasp3559
      @tominftlthomasp3559 Před 2 lety +36

      I’ve had the same experience with greedy dealers. Told them to keep the damn thing. I ended up ordering a Tesla. Which has been out for a longer time and had most of the bugs worked out. Nothing is perfect.

    • @gergelyturcsanyi6743
      @gergelyturcsanyi6743 Před 2 lety +8

      @@iCoolaxe Yeah, in USA the fuel is still so cheap.

  • @BoldBrandFlakes
    @BoldBrandFlakes Před 2 lety +283

    This is actually one of the EVs I would consider buying, but I know the dealerships in the US are going to murder these in markups. Especially Kia dealerships they’re the worst you can go to, they’re always unprofessional.

    • @suserman7775
      @suserman7775 Před 2 lety +6

      Do you have a current vehicle to trade?

    • @Dia1Up
      @Dia1Up Před 2 lety +23

      As someone who is a salesperson at a Kia dealership (in Canada mind you) I can confirm everything you just said. We do go out of our way here at our store to be different and the best experience (we don't do markups ect) but having frequent contact with the other Kia's around, it's crazy.

    • @KidKingdomHearts
      @KidKingdomHearts Před 2 lety +16

      @@tinnyty not everyone can wait months for their next car though. It’s insane that consumers can’t just buy at msrp. Stuff like these stupid mark ups and haggling is why so many people are cheering for the death of the car dealership in general these days.

    • @KARZJR
      @KARZJR Před 2 lety +11

      i was looking at them and just mark up and not including fees or taxes it was all the way to $50k! I ended up getting a used 2019 Mazda3 lol

    • @austinsloop9774
      @austinsloop9774 Před 2 lety +5

      My dealer keeps trying to buy my 3 yr old car (actually above market for trade in) but that wouldnt even cover the markups they're putting on new cars.

  • @HandsomeAlex25
    @HandsomeAlex25 Před 2 lety +94

    This review demonstrates why we need reviewers to dig into and point out the subtle differences between equivalent products. Those differences to interior materials and suspension set up are something you're going to live with day to day, while looks remain subjective. So glad for what you guys do.

  • @Tinrs80
    @Tinrs80 Před 2 lety +105

    Man over the years i love how Truthful this channel is. Respect it so much more and more. Everyone Braggin on this cars range but its people reviewing it in Cali. where its warm! Got more fast chargers.. im on East coast and in the Country and I WANT THE TRUTH! Its cold here where i live. I appreciate someone saying ( SG ) that we hear these good Miles for EV's but its not reality. Even this!

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 Před 2 lety +6

      For many of us it _is_ reality. Far less than half the country lives in places with extreme winters. For the millions of folks who live in California, Florida, and Texas these ranges are realistic. What else should they advertise except the maximums? The cold weather ranges vary too much.

  • @davidgiles9751
    @davidgiles9751 Před 2 lety +33

    Those aren't bag hooks on the sides of the front console - they're for USB cord routing. I personally love that there's a difference between the EV6 and Ionic 5, as either car will appeal to different people for different reasons. A win for Hyundai/Kia.

  • @attananightshadow
    @attananightshadow Před 2 lety +185

    Knowing the brutal North American Kia dealer experience these will be over MSRP and any issues they’ll try to weasel out on.

    • @connorbasile
      @connorbasile Před 2 lety +20

      Yeah, sadly everyone I know personably who’ve bought a Kia, have horrible experiences with their dealer. They always have issues with warranty claims and bad service. And I’ve seen first hand the “market adjustments” the dealers put on so many of them. Sorry but I wouldn’t pay 1 penny over MSRP for a Kia… (wouldn’t do it for almost any vehicle honestly) It’s a shame too, cause Kia has an awesome lineup of vehicles.

    • @BiffBuffchest
      @BiffBuffchest Před 2 lety +22

      you can take the dealership out of the hood, but you can't take the hood out of the dealership.

    • @Smellslikegelfling
      @Smellslikegelfling Před 2 lety +27

      @@connorbasile What Kia doesn't realize is the markups...suddenly that $50k Highlander Platinum is a pretty good deal compared to an overpriced Telluride with a cheap interior and all the engine recalls.

    • @moloono1
      @moloono1 Před 2 lety +5

      @@Smellslikegelfling FnA dude, thank you for saying that. I haven’t been able to put my feelings about that exact issue into words. This is a huge issue!

    • @bradleyscarreviews
      @bradleyscarreviews Před 2 lety +5

      @@Smellslikegelfling telluride does not have a cheap interior, don’t know what your smoking on, and the telluride doesn’t have engine recalls.

  • @ThomasNing
    @ThomasNing Před 2 lety +56

    I love how the front 3/4 of this car looks. Without anything for scale, it looks like a sporty, stylish hatchback.
    The back however, is... something.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 Před 2 lety +8

      It looks better in real life, especially the taillights tucked into the creases. I had doubts from the pictures, but it's actually just fine.

    • @ThomasNing
      @ThomasNing Před 2 lety +1

      @@markmiller3279 yep, I wasn't sure if I liked it or not, and it's pretty non-traditional. It does look very SUV-like.

    • @alh06
      @alh06 Před 2 lety +5

      @@markmiller3279 It looks worse irl in my opinion. Just looks like a wacky attempt at something

    • @JamieToddBand
      @JamieToddBand Před 2 lety +7

      haha, I like the rear end design. Handsome in person to me.

    • @alex99398
      @alex99398 Před rokem +2

      Of course styling is subjective but +1 for stylish and interesting. It's pretty common for people who own these to have random strangers come up to them all the time asking about it and the styling is one of the key reasons why.. Clearly it's resonating well with most.

  • @Mr.Marbles
    @Mr.Marbles Před 2 lety +45

    these electric cars finally bring out crazy designs that i actually enjoy.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 Před 2 lety

      I agree completely. I've seen a few EV6s and they look great in person. In pictures I didn't think the tail end looked good, but in person the taillights look sensational. The Ioniq5 really does remind me of classic Golfs and Alfas (and the Hyundai Pony), and those were cars I always liked. The diagonal crease is slightly goofy, but much less extreme than the current Elantra and Tucson, which really do look overstyled. I love the boxy practicality of the Ioniq5, with a seating position that must be near perfect.

  • @chengyoujiang6076
    @chengyoujiang6076 Před 2 lety +42

    Just saw the EV6 at the NY Auto Show last Saturday, the car looked awesome both inside and out, cannot believe now I love a Kia this much !!

  • @stopthefomo
    @stopthefomo Před 2 lety +91

    I’ve owned the EV6 AWD Wind for over a month now and city commuting in The OC SoCal averages between 285 and 295, while driving in Eco which is still by far faster and more responsive than my BMW 335i around town. In sport mode MPGe drops a bit but the instant power is addicting! Agree with your interior complaints. I’m ready to swap this for the EV6 GT coming in 6 months because 0-60 in 3.3 seconds is too good to pass up!

    • @RWDtech
      @RWDtech Před 2 lety +5

      Must be nice.

    • @bearclaw5115
      @bearclaw5115 Před 2 lety +1

      Hi Stop the FOMO, I love your channel. A must see before buying a tv. Nice to see you have good taste in cars too!

    • @klct555klct
      @klct555klct Před 2 lety

      why wouldn’t you just wait for the GT

    • @michalklucz6907
      @michalklucz6907 Před 2 lety +1

      @@klct555klct because GT was announced after the EV6? also, because it's good to drive the car before the change? and last but not least you will be able to sell EV6 for probably more than sticker price 6 months ago? :D

    • @BrandoDrum
      @BrandoDrum Před 2 lety +1

      @@klct555klct these days there's practically zero financial reason to wait to buy any sought after car if you can get MSRP on it. Especially for an EV. The depreciation on the EV6 over one or two years I bet is comparable to if not less than the savings in fuel costs depending on how much you drive. If you pay the markups then yeah, you lose that as the new 'depreciation' amount to account for. Depreciation exists either as the time loss waiting for your new car to arrive or the markups you pay to drive one off the lot. Less of the depreciation exists against MSRP right now. Economics gets strange when supply gets interrupted.

  • @normwetherbee3403
    @normwetherbee3403 Před 2 lety +45

    Did no one else notice the Turbowski sighting at 08:35 or am I just old? Great review. If I had to I'd take the Ioniq over this just for the styling and our local Hyundai dealer being reportedly better equipped for service over the neighboring Kia dealership.

    • @oOgy172
      @oOgy172 Před 2 lety +6

      Yup that was a Turbowski sighting but from the old Soul ev video. Does anyone know what happened to him?

    • @gdhaswanderlust
      @gdhaswanderlust Před 2 lety +3

      The legend of Turbowski endures

    • @saucyp123
      @saucyp123 Před 2 lety +6

      @@oOgy172 Turbowski made it big on the Powerball and hit the bricks

    • @fvvfvbbbb
      @fvvfvbbbb Před 2 lety +6

      Bring back Turbowski !!!!!!

    • @jr.sciencebros.8411
      @jr.sciencebros.8411 Před 2 lety +5

      Watching Turbowski was like watching paint dry. That guy had less energy than a dead iPhone. Come on....

  • @TML34
    @TML34 Před 2 lety +21

    Looks like Jack was out in the Grand Sport giving it the old "Italian tune-up." 12:44 😄

  • @bigmarkdarula
    @bigmarkdarula Před 2 lety +13

    What you 2 guys said about mazda, most ppl won't realize till you drive it - ie. the mx5 lets you slide for a solid 1-2secs then it'll kick in vs the on/off switch of Stability control cutting everything

    • @csdstudio78
      @csdstudio78 Před 2 lety +1

      Couldn't like this enough. My turbo 6 is the same way. The traction is never invasive and the stability system let's you have fun long before castration sets in.

  • @davidlyday7373
    @davidlyday7373 Před 2 lety +15

    Honestly, Hyundai and Kia did a lot more than Subaru or Toyota did when differentiating the BZ4X and the solterra

  • @davidchernack4145
    @davidchernack4145 Před 2 lety +38

    I just test drove this car. I could not get comfortable in the driver's seat or the passenger's seat no matter how I tried to change the seat settings. Meanwhile, I found the IONIQ 5 instantly comfortable up front. For that reason alone I'd choose the 5 over the EV6, despite my preference for the EV6's overall exterior styling.

  • @br0ck5
    @br0ck5 Před 2 lety +16

    Another bonus point for the Ioniq vs the EV6 : No shiny black plastic whatsoever

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu Před 2 lety

      The Ioniq is more spacious and looks cooler imo.

  • @TheAdventureAuto
    @TheAdventureAuto Před 2 lety +21

    Hey man I love your Dodge Stratus.
    Bro I'd never drive a Stratus, it's a Plymouthe Breeze.

    • @marclangman4836
      @marclangman4836 Před 2 lety +8

      Breeze is for peasants. I drive a Chrysler Cirrus.

    • @rcn5008
      @rcn5008 Před rokem

      @@marclangman4836 A lot of clouds and wind blowing around right now.

  • @dil6969
    @dil6969 Před 2 lety +16

    13:45 - Not to continue the Mazda circlejerk, but for a regular everyday car, their traction and stability control is damn near perfect. Other cars I've driven will absolutely kill any torque to the wheels if the slightest bit of slip is detected, which can be sketchy if you're pulling out into a busy road from a junction with a bit of gravel in the road. All of the sudden, it feels like your engine has stalled out even if you've floored it. The 5 different Mazdas I've driven from 2016 - 2021 all allow about 10-15% slip which feels so much safer and more predictable.

    • @wigletron2846
      @wigletron2846 Před 2 lety +2

      Not to mention really intrusive traction controls make it impossible to drive in snow. I went from a Mazda to a Kia and it's night and day. Also when you shut off tcs in a Mazda it's completely off. In a Kia it will still cut power, even with it turned off.

    • @HeavyMetalorRockfan9
      @HeavyMetalorRockfan9 Před 2 lety

      when they started complaining abt traction control i thought they shouldve hired mazda engineers, and then they compared it to Mazda lol
      we really do circlejerk too much, but its earned imo, you can powerslide a cx9 with traction control on, and in the snow the ability of the car to naturally kick the ass end out and then bring it back in to get you to turn quickly is just a blessing

    • @HD_Kerino
      @HD_Kerino Před 2 lety

      I’ve seen plenty of videos of the EV6 being thrown around with the TC on, not sure why Reviewers always have to cry about something most people don’t care about. The Koreans make their cars stupid proof. Can’t tell you how many times people fish tail in rain where I’m at and cause huge pile ups. Hell the aggressive TC saved my girlfriends life one day, don’t hate on a good thing.

    • @UnobtaniumsQuickReviews
      @UnobtaniumsQuickReviews Před rokem

      Mazda is truly good, I agree. They really do seem to make cars for people who enjoy driving. Other than Miata, though, I felt like my CX5's fell apart after 8/10. WHen you push them that last little bit, you really notice the front end weight bias.

  • @Druezer
    @Druezer Před 2 lety +21

    This just might be my favorite automotive channel. It's funny. It's comprehensive. The production values are great and Mark and Jack each don both the enthusiast hat and that of the average consumer.

  • @eazy529
    @eazy529 Před 2 lety +8

    Before the supply/chip shortages Kia and Hyundai dealers were known for dealer markups. Their was a Hyundai dealer in New Jersey that had a commercial saying that they will knock 30% off sticker but before they knock off the sticker they mark up the price by 25%

    • @wigletron2846
      @wigletron2846 Před 2 lety +2

      Their markups are worse now. They're marking up every vehicle.

    • @letsgobrandon5800
      @letsgobrandon5800 Před 2 lety

      I remember the guy in Joisey/NY who advertised all over (and in FL too) that "its gonna be "HUGE." he was famous for doing the same thing. Fuccillo.

  • @BradKalinoski
    @BradKalinoski Před 2 lety +21

    dealers aka Ed Voyles Kia in GA are adding $15000 to the msrp for GT line. And calling it a mandatory dealer addon. Needless to say, I said kiss my ass.

  • @marshalld5574
    @marshalld5574 Před 2 lety +35

    The Dodge/Plymouth Neon edit was 🔥🔥
    3:35
    Mark, I hope we can see more of those in the future

    • @ChevyCamaroIsBetter
      @ChevyCamaroIsBetter Před 2 lety +9

      That edit was made using the Neon’s cpu

    • @DctorSkillz1
      @DctorSkillz1 Před 2 lety +3

      No, please don't make this channel into RCR. 👎

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  Před 2 lety +9

      It wont

    • @Stoneheadification
      @Stoneheadification Před 2 lety +4

      @@DctorSkillz1 No, but please make this channel into Sliphantom, cant wait to see Mark play NFSU1 with garbo mods and only the Neon while he contemplates about his life decisions

  • @La-yt1wr
    @La-yt1wr Před 2 lety +7

    3:37 I was dying of laughter, but good video.

  • @rosettedsouza7265
    @rosettedsouza7265 Před 2 lety +1

    Many thanks for the Ioniq 5 and EV6 review’s in particular, we are still mulling over an EV or a hybrid vehicle and appreciate all that you guy’s are doing…….

  • @sidekickstreams
    @sidekickstreams Před 2 lety +3

    I am forever grateful that y'all thoroughly and conscientiously review consumer-y car options (knowing that these can run 60+ grand... but you get what I'm saying)

  • @BigMaxGames
    @BigMaxGames Před 2 lety

    Another excellent video (from a Canadian Ioniq 5 (Ultimate)) driver. You always set the benchmark with your candid and insightful knowledge and commentary

  • @lordolunch
    @lordolunch Před 2 lety +2

    I can't image how much of my life has disappeared watching Savage geese videos. Time well spent

  • @dcbel
    @dcbel Před 2 lety

    15:33 great review and nice final thoughts! Thank you for sharing! 🔌⚡🚘

  • @brandonclark8736
    @brandonclark8736 Před 2 lety +3

    The hood design on this is amazing, very attractive.

  • @brandonl8039
    @brandonl8039 Před 2 lety +9

    I love mine, but the ride can be a bit bouncy and harsh at high speed.
    Definitely too much piano black plastic in the interior. But the matte gray paint looks stellar in person

    • @Dowlphin
      @Dowlphin Před 2 lety

      LOL, "stellar". This is so sad-cynical, how people get excited about all cars turning primer gray. - Very telling about the direction the ruling class is herding us in. (NPC color)

    • @brandonl8039
      @brandonl8039 Před 2 lety

      @@Dowlphin it looks good, just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean other people don’t nor does it mean you should be a douche bag about it

  • @MrDolphinDives
    @MrDolphinDives Před 2 lety

    Great timing! Was just cross shopping this with a Hummer H1.

  • @mountman5386
    @mountman5386 Před 2 lety +1

    love to see you folks do a comp with this, the Tesla 3 & the VW ID4. Here in NZ this is right in line with the base Tesla 3 on price.

  • @billymania11
    @billymania11 Před 2 lety +17

    You guys have a valid point in that EV's are the perfect city/suburban vehicles. Regenerative braking and the quietness/smoothness are perfect for that environment. I realized that driving my wife's Tesla Model 3. It's ideally suited for commuting around the Denver metro area.

    • @pascutia
      @pascutia Před 2 lety +3

      Yup, ICE vehicles are optimized for higher consistent speed driving. That’s when they’re most efficient. An EV is great for getting around a city/suburban area.

    • @lifesAtrip513
      @lifesAtrip513 Před 2 lety +1

      Witness the people that will cause the deah of the automobile market

    • @illegalopinions4082
      @illegalopinions4082 Před 2 lety +5

      How is this any different to using a small displacement ICE? Why are people so keen to keep trying to solve a problem that doesn't exist while compromising usability?

    • @chidorirasenganz
      @chidorirasenganz Před 2 lety +1

      @@pascutia EVs are fine for consistent driving at higher speeds if you aren’t doing a lot acceleration and deceleration. So as long as you are doing adaptive cruise control you’re good.

    • @pascutia
      @pascutia Před 2 lety +1

      @@chidorirasenganz Yup, but that’s where range and finding a charging location becomes more concerning.

  • @TheCapn23
    @TheCapn23 Před 2 lety +26

    Kia/Hyundai has come a long way as a brand. They've really stepped up their game the last ten years or so.

  • @gtzgabriel98
    @gtzgabriel98 Před 2 lety

    Clicked because of the thumbnail, stayed because of the content. Great video!

  • @skylinrcr01
    @skylinrcr01 Před 2 lety

    OMG my ears with the Neon. Thanks for that.

  • @speedracer2please
    @speedracer2please Před 2 lety +2

    I managed to get a brief wheel spin in a rented Kia Soul this weekend lol wasn't expecting it

  • @eazy-333
    @eazy-333 Před 2 lety +87

    Big ups to Kia for improving every year. Im starting to forget all the terrible cars.

    • @CaptainPrice360
      @CaptainPrice360 Před 2 lety +13

      Yeah you have to admire the progress

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 Před 2 lety +3

      Being bought out by Hyundai was the best thing that ever happened to them.

    • @andresmattos7541
      @andresmattos7541 Před rokem

      LOl idiots still dwell in the past, you sound like Kia just started making good cars, you still live in 1980?

    • @alex98053
      @alex98053 Před rokem +2

      Yeah, props to Hyundai / Kia / Genesis...arguably the most competitive mainstream auto companies in the last 10 years..

  • @joeb4294
    @joeb4294 Před 2 lety +6

    I would definitely choose the EV6 over the Ioniq5, but I am intrigued to see the third version of this car when the Genesis GV60 comes out.

  • @MizuMaloon
    @MizuMaloon Před 2 lety +1

    I live in WV and was surprised that a dealership close by had 2 but of course with today's market, they had the price $5k over sticker.

  • @amanaudio92
    @amanaudio92 Před rokem

    Excellent informative reviews guys, makes the other car review channels look like kids joking around and playing with cars

  • @nirmitshukla2034
    @nirmitshukla2034 Před 2 lety +2

    Any chance you have a review of the Polestar 2 coming out soon?

  • @na_wu
    @na_wu Před 2 lety +1

    This attracts people who love polished black plastic and who love to take eyes off road to adjust AC.

  • @bassfan71
    @bassfan71 Před 2 lety +2

    But Mark! I like it when the four cylinder rattles myself when it struggles to accelerate onto highway on ramps in my Hyundai Elantra. :)

  • @CapELarry
    @CapELarry Před 2 lety +12

    We just got the AWD Wind trim and love it. We put in a little bit of work and found one for MSRP. It’s a great daily driver. This, plus my LC500 and manual Tacoma Off-Raod make my perfect garage fleet.

    • @DiscoFang
      @DiscoFang Před 2 lety

      Is it pronounced Wind or Wind?

    • @Rocket9944
      @Rocket9944 Před 2 lety +1

      @@DiscoFang , No, it's pronounced Wind.

    • @DiscoFang
      @DiscoFang Před 2 lety

      @@Rocket9944 Ah. The Flatulence trim.

  • @MrMegatron85
    @MrMegatron85 Před 2 lety

    Saw one in person yesterday. Looks better in person

  • @Affalterbach1967
    @Affalterbach1967 Před 2 lety +11

    Kia styling is taut, like Audi of 15 years ago. And that is not a bad thing. 3:35 is the timely Easter Egg of 1980s video game graphics and midi chords I needed to stay awake.

  • @rottinjonny
    @rottinjonny Před 2 lety +1

    Great review as usual. Though I have to say that there is a certain irony in qualifying statements about charging networks according to the buyer’s location. Ideally, the point of such a network is to give the user an experience that isn’t geographically unpredictable. But they have yet to deliver on such a system.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 Před 2 lety

      True, but the network has been growing rapidly, and should continue to grow as sales increase. They have concentrated so far on places where EV sales are high and parts of the Interstate system.

    • @cbatiau2528
      @cbatiau2528 Před 2 lety

      Most people are buying BEVs for local driving, not for long-distance driving. Most BEV owners who do lots of long-distance driving keep an ICEV or PHEV for that purpose. The point of having the 800-volt architecture is, of course, fast DC charging, but the public-charging infrastructure isn't there yet. Maybe in 3-5 years...

  • @zaidm4586
    @zaidm4586 Před 2 lety

    any update on the toyota 86? rly hyped to see the progression of the car

  • @ryanwalker8098
    @ryanwalker8098 Před 2 lety

    Great vid as usual but I didn't hear much comparison with the tesla cars. (Model 3, Y).

  • @EvendimataE
    @EvendimataE Před 2 lety

    the thing i like about the ioniq5 is the small center console making it easy to move to either side of the front cabin in case of emergencies

  • @Sunset4Semaphores
    @Sunset4Semaphores Před 2 lety +5

    I saw my first Kia EV6 yesterday. Kind of striking visually.

  • @klossfam
    @klossfam Před 2 lety

    One comment on the EV6 GT-Line since my son has one and we have an I5 Limited. The ride difference is especially evident for rear seat passengers. This is when you notice the stiffer ride of the EV6 and the lower seating position. For a family or someone that has frequent rear seat passengers, the Ioniq 5 is a far better choice.
    Both are great cars and charging monsters. In our I5 on a 1,300 mi return trip from FL, our total charging time (8 stops) was 1 hr and 54 mins. 230-240 kw speeds in the 50-70% charge range are common. One 16-86% charge took less than 17 minutes.
    P. S. We paid MSRP. No markups in Western NY for these. The Kia dealer tried the usual Kia dealer fluff but we got it back to MSRP. Ioniq 5s are MSRP straight up.

  • @MrValy128
    @MrValy128 Před 2 lety +1

    I'm shocked Mark did not do a solid rant about the lack of a rear windshield wiper. Imagine driving this in anything but sunny weather and not being able to see out the back window after dropping 50k lol..

  • @tamegaming1768
    @tamegaming1768 Před 2 lety

    I'm not a big fan of electrics, and I'm not a big fan of CUVs/SUVs but I have to admit, the styling on these making them look more like hatchbacks is having an effect on me. The interiors too, I really like what they're doing

  • @christophe9602
    @christophe9602 Před 6 měsíci

    I passed on this car when looking around for a professional lease EV mostly because of headroom. I'm 1m92, so tall but still a fairly common size for North-Western Europe, and my head was barely not touching the roof lining. That also meant the seating in relation to the front windshield was damn near awkward, pretty much hampering visibility of things at a slight angle above me (like traffic lights). And I would have opted for the panoramic roof too, because it's almost a must (if the windows on these cars get any smaller, you'll feel like you're driving an armoured personel carrier). The Ioniq 5 suspension was way too soft, it was making everyone in the car, including myself motion sick.
    The reason I went to look particulary to this, is my own car is a Kia (2022 Ceed SW) and I've always found it's great to drive (maybe that's just preference) but everything in that car is absolute magnificent value for the money. It was objectivively better for safety/tech/controls/DCT/etc. than my previous professional 2020 Volvo XC60 in every (except size). But, for a brand that does somewhat focus on keeping cars affordable (an art forgotten by VW, Skoda and the likes), if you start specing this car out, it quickly becomes overpriced compared to a Model Y. Which is really a faux-pas in the market Kia and Huyndai are aiming at.

  • @johnwilliams3075
    @johnwilliams3075 Před 2 lety

    Do you guys have an ID.4 review incoming? I know you've mentioned it in some recent EV reviews so...

  • @MachinegunAK
    @MachinegunAK Před 2 lety +1

    Aren't those bag hooks actually cable guides for phone charging cables?

  • @Ray-gf9su
    @Ray-gf9su Před 2 lety +1

    How well does it perform in the Rocky Mountains and snow?

  • @pileofwit
    @pileofwit Před 2 lety

    That screen setup is such a nicer looking version of what VW tried to do with the Golf 8s.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 Před 2 lety

      It's also very similar to most modern Mercedes screens. I suspect most automakers will eventually end up with something similar, as it makes a lot of sense. They can put an expansive rear view on there for backing, as well as side mirror views when you engage the turn signals, like Hyundai/Kia are already doing.

  • @TheAdventureAuto
    @TheAdventureAuto Před 2 lety +5

    In my Veloster Turbo it would be so much slower when it was extremely hot outside, but so much faster when it was extremely cold out in the winter. It was very noticeable. Just curious why everybody forgets about this when talking about EV's and range and power differences based on temperature? My MPGs would also go from 40 to 28 from summer to winter. Gas cars aren't immune to these things. A diesel engine can't even be started when its very cold, so you have to leave them running or use electric engine heaters to warm them up.

    • @Scypher0th
      @Scypher0th Před 2 lety +1

      ummmm you should be using a electric car heating in winter on ANY vehicle....least here in canada....if your stupid enough not to than thats YOUR fault not the cars....as for the power loss n gain....thats your fault for buying a turbo vehicle also....

    • @questioner1596
      @questioner1596 Před 2 lety +1

      Also, you can run an EV's cabin heater while still plugged in, saving range in a way that would require idling an ICE.

    • @TheAdventureAuto
      @TheAdventureAuto Před 2 lety +1

      @@questioner1596 My work commute is 5 miles so I usually don't preheat, only because I'm not able to offset the energy used for it in that short of a drive. I do warm up the cabin about a minute before I get in. It's nice having instant heat in an EV.

    • @TheAdventureAuto
      @TheAdventureAuto Před 2 lety +1

      @@Scypher0th Calm down.

  • @josephcitizen4195
    @josephcitizen4195 Před 2 lety

    I've asked this before and can never seem to get an answer so here goes again. Where can I learn how to read the audio graphs that you guys post? I'm a stats and info guy and I would love to pause and compare cars but I have no idea what the hell I'm looking at. ty in advance.

  • @CorruptedPlist
    @CorruptedPlist Před 2 lety

    “Geared for the lowest common denominator,” hits the nail on the head for some of these dynamic problems.

  • @doctorsoggy5563
    @doctorsoggy5563 Před rokem +1

    The Koreans have some crazy momentum the last couple years in terms of innovation and quality. Very cool to see.

  • @Rockinthehill
    @Rockinthehill Před 9 měsíci +1

    1 year later the Ioniq 5 and 6 are readily available under MSRP and with incentives. Good things come to those who wait 8/2023

  • @fartzinwind
    @fartzinwind Před 2 lety

    I'm waiting for smaller variations, and hopefully solid state to fix the weight issues.

  • @Tinrs80
    @Tinrs80 Před 2 lety

    does that not have a rear wiper? i see alot of rain drops back there.. makes me wonder if it snows or on a dirt road.

  • @davidjohnson7633
    @davidjohnson7633 Před 2 lety +1

    Great review! I test drove an EV6 recently and it is a lot of fun. I’ll stick with my ICE Audi for road trips and I don’t want to pay $60k for a runabout. Maybe the Niro EV for $35k after the tax credit is a better fit for me.

    • @johnlee5307
      @johnlee5307 Před 2 lety +2

      Mini SE is actually the perfect city car and it's still eligible for the full $7500 federal tax credit this year, making it the cheapest EV. The real range for me is 120 to 140 highway vs city easily and since I charge at home or occasionally at work the range is a nonissue.

  • @FredNationFN
    @FredNationFN Před 2 lety

    When y'all gonna do the Kia Sportage 2023 review?

  • @_Makanko_
    @_Makanko_ Před 2 lety

    Ioniq5 wins it for me, just for the usable space.
    I'm not in the US so only have to deal with these cars not being very available and still being very pricy (even at MSRP).
    It's a great option for in the future but my current shitbox (Skoda non-lease) should have at least seven to ten years left and I don't think the gas prices (as high as they are in Europe) will make me consider a switch to EV before that car dies or become too expensive to maintain.
    Thanks for another thoughtful and great review

  • @evilmcnasty69
    @evilmcnasty69 Před 2 lety

    Was that a Scott Turbowski Cameo when comparing Kia Soul and EV?

  • @scottstephenson9312
    @scottstephenson9312 Před 2 lety

    Boy was I impressed with this review. No BEV bashing. No BEV adoration. Just accurately pointing out strengths and weaknesses as they exist today.

  • @EdvardHolst
    @EdvardHolst Před 2 lety

    You mentioned the Taycan briefly. Any chance you guys will review one anytime soon?

    • @jackholmes8105
      @jackholmes8105 Před 2 lety

      we are filming it now. We have a turbo s and a rwd model

  • @RK-db4oq
    @RK-db4oq Před 2 lety +7

    It's funny you compare Kia/Hyundai to Chrysler/Plymouth. Because the dealer experience is about the same--perhaps the same guys are running them.

    • @markmiller3279
      @markmiller3279 Před 2 lety

      Probably are. Auto dealerships are usually owned by dealership groups that sell multiple brands.

  • @GeorgeDavid420
    @GeorgeDavid420 Před 2 lety +1

    I have been relying on steering wheel volume controls since my 2003 honda accord coupe so i Dont get why you need to touch a volume knob

  • @nickL7389
    @nickL7389 Před 2 lety +3

    It's Hyundai, like Sunday

  • @Mooremoorebobby
    @Mooremoorebobby Před 2 lety

    Buyer Beware
    We bought the EV6 Wind RWD on April 2, 2022at Ball KIA San Diego. We love the way it looks, the way it drives, the modes and the room. We purchased it specifically because of the California CAV Carpool status and the 310 mile range. When I commuted to my work destination 134 miles away, the next day, on a 100% full charge; I had 13% battery and only 24 miles to go after I arrived to my final destination. I didn't drive extreme or in a hilly areas. Nothing different than the terrain and freeway speeds of Orange County where the KIA Corporate HDQ are located. I didn't have the heater or ac on anything more than normal. Needless to say I was peeved. I had to recharge in Compton and I'm glad my wife didn't have to do this. So here I am 3 weeks later, a new car that will not charge more than 215 est miles. The Mi/kwh is 2.3-3.4.
    KIA wont help, they keep giving me the runaround and telling me that the 310mile per charge is only an estimate. Even though the brochure says 310* plus/minus 10... KIA headquarters says 167 -310 est range.
    KIA wont help us, we have to do all of this investigation on our own, The Service managers, District Manager and Regional manager have not returned any of our calls, emails. We have been to 2 service centers and they are telling us that this 215 mile range is standard and correct for their long range Wind model (the 310 mile model) My wife and I believe that KIA has placed the EV6 Light Model Battery in the Wind Model Frame.

  • @AlexSchwartzATV
    @AlexSchwartzATV Před 2 lety +8

    I LOVED the ioniq's design. But i cant lie, this takes it design wise for me, even with the compromises.

    • @shifu9276
      @shifu9276 Před 2 lety

      Oh huh I was wondering who would ever want this ugly thing.

  • @HairFollicle
    @HairFollicle Před 2 lety

    imagine adding f1 v10 sound to this pure eargasm

  • @isserdigan2835
    @isserdigan2835 Před 2 lety

    Is Lucid dream air in your review pipeline? Please say yes!!

  • @edwink1467
    @edwink1467 Před 2 lety +1

    Went to the NY International Auto Show today and sat/rode in both the EV6 and Ioniq 5. I feel like I’m one of the few people out there who prefer the EV6 to the Ioniq 5. The Ioniq 5 is great, especially the exterior styling/funky LED, but I wasn’t a fan of the interior. For example, the white bezel is flat out ugly and the bench like front seats remind me of my mom’s minivan.
    The EV6 just seems… cooler inside and out. I have no issue with the HVAC/multimedia integration and the ride, albeit a very short ride, was good enough for my taste. It’s not harsh by any means. Also tried the Volvo XC40 Recharge, but holy shit that little CUV is $60K and it’s smaller and with less range. With how much the mainstream manufacturers have improved in recent years, that Volvo didn’t feel much more premium than the Kia - I know that’s a crazy statement. I’m seriously considering it.

    • @amperformance7998
      @amperformance7998 Před 2 lety

      I have an EV6 on order. The EV6 is good looking (better in person than in photos), but I like the Ioniq 5 exterior better. On the other hand, I like the EV6 interior better. My wife likes EV6 better both inside and out so that ended up being the deciding factor.
      In addition, the Australian EV6 has a custom suspension tune that is better resolved and more tightly controlled without being harsh.

  • @UnobtaniumsQuickReviews

    @savagegeese Hello! You recommended that I buy an RDX earlier this year, and I did. I have been 100% happy with the choice, and your recommendation was spot on. I would like to know how this EV6 stacks up in the

  • @FlyingNDriving
    @FlyingNDriving Před 2 lety +3

    Kinda just looks like a 4door Honda crz hybrid robot hatch thing they made, when you look at the rear 3/4

  • @meathead585
    @meathead585 Před 2 lety

    eventually maybe you guys can make a review/opinion of the differences of how many motors are in various vehicles. Are more motors better ? Are more motors more helpful in snow/ice driving ? What's the best choice in an affordable EV if we care not about 0-60 times.

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  Před 2 lety +1

      Thats the next frontier, more motors are better.

  • @klossfam
    @klossfam Před 2 lety +3

    Note that the Ioniq 5 Limited has an 8 speaker Bose system, not a 14 speaker Meridian system like the EV6. My son has the EV6 with the Meridian and I think it easily superior and more adjustable than the Bose in our I5.

    • @JTM610
      @JTM610 Před 2 lety +2

      Idk but the number of speakers doesn’t automatically determine if an audio system is better?

    • @klossfam
      @klossfam Před 2 lety

      @@JTM610 Not saying that... Just saying the Meridian sounds better. I had a 14 speaker Alpine system in a past RAM 1500 that was way worse than the Honda Premium Sound in my Ridgeline.

  • @davidmccarthy6061
    @davidmccarthy6061 Před 2 lety +1

    Frickin Illinois. Mid-April at 33F and new slush on the ground. And yes, no chargers. Got the new battery pack on my Bolt but still did the buyback because we no longer need a 2nd car, and being in IL means I couldn't hand it over to one of the kids because they'll be in apartments for years and won't be able to charge it.

    • @iHaveTheDocuments
      @iHaveTheDocuments Před 2 lety

      It's basically been 32 here in Pennsylvania and NY yesterday and today.

  • @sorgadmagreb
    @sorgadmagreb Před 2 lety

    Battery degradation is something to be considered that no one talks about.. if it's losing 5% of maximum charge every year, all the more reason to stay away from smaller EV batteries, for now. Holding on to my 2018 Civic S/T until something else efficient and sporty comes along. Thanks for another splendid review gentlemen.

    • @savagegeese
      @savagegeese  Před 2 lety

      Problem with battery degradation is it changes based on battery supplier, OEM software tuning and non accessible overhead built into pack design to accomidate for that. Car companies don't share that info or if they do its bits and pieces.

  • @ukasz1002
    @ukasz1002 Před 2 lety +4

    For last decade I’ve been driving BMWs. Was looking to switch to EV for a while now. I test drove nearly all EVs from Tesla, Merc, BMW, VW, Taycans, you name it.
    Never have I considered KIA to be honest. Than I had it for a weekend, checked the specs, prices, warranty, the way it drives, it’s just no brainier- ordered it later the same week.

    • @Wasabi9111
      @Wasabi9111 Před 2 lety +1

      We just traded in my parents fully loaded 2020 x5 for an Ioniq 5. At first my parents were hesitant, especially my mom as she never thought of buying a Hyundai before. But we love the Ioniq. It’s drives so much nicer. As much as we loved the inline 6, it now seems so unrefined compared to an ev. We’re very happy we made the trade.

    • @moloono1
      @moloono1 Před 2 lety +4

      Wow, the Kia bots are really out in force today 😂
      Talking about “My parents used to drive a Rolls Royce, but now they bought a new Ioniq from Kia!”

    • @bradleyscarreviews
      @bradleyscarreviews Před 2 lety

      @@moloono1 lol, come on. What if they are telling the truth?

    • @YouWillNeverKnow
      @YouWillNeverKnow Před 2 lety +5

      You cross shopped a Porsche with a Kia.....yeah ok bro.

    • @entertained...
      @entertained... Před 2 lety +1

      @@YouWillNeverKnow exactly. i was a fan of german luxury, but korean economy is just too good to pass up! haha.

  • @tomdrummy4984
    @tomdrummy4984 Před 2 lety +3

    I prefer the Hyundai Ioniq 5…….mostly for interior room.
    Very comfy

  • @Sublimer79
    @Sublimer79 Před rokem

    I saw one of these yesterday in Akron, Ohio.

  • @robertk1049
    @robertk1049 Před 2 lety +7

    This car is dead in the water because of one thing, and that’s the Kia dealership experience. Any remotely interesting product at every Kia dealership I’ve ever been to gets these massive markups and baloney add-ons. Then when you finally bite the bullet and decide to talk to a sales person the first things out of their mouth have nothing to do with the car you’re interested in, but rather how much do you want your monthly payment to be and do you want to fill out a credit app.

    • @dougrobinson8602
      @dougrobinson8602 Před 2 lety

      Yeah, and when you decide that a $10,000 markup isn't for you, that credit check will ding your credit rating. Hard pass on Hyundai/Ioniq/Kia until they get their dealerships under control. A markup on a limited production car like a GT4 or M2 CS is one thing, (sucky thing, BTW) but a big markup on a mass produced vehicle with the depreciation history of H/I/K is only something a sucker would pay. When you add it all up, you'd be in Tesla pricing territory, and they've been refining their lines for over ten years at this point.

    • @KA-zh2rq
      @KA-zh2rq Před 2 lety

      Kia sold twice as many of these as they did rios last month and markups never stopped the tellurides success. I wouldn’t buy one with a markup because I have no issue searching around but they’ll still sell everyone they make at the end of the day. Only the dealers that do extreme $15-$20k markups will have maybe 4 or 5 sitting on a lot. Either way, a $40-$70k kia is outselling the $17k subcompact, times have changed because they build great cars

  • @keenanjogiah5935
    @keenanjogiah5935 Před 5 měsíci

    When comparing the interior and exterior of two cars it would be good to show what you're comparing to, we haven't watched the other video recently in most cases 😊

  • @PaulHo
    @PaulHo Před 2 lety +2

    I think that's actually a cord management clip for your phone cable, and not a bag hook.

  • @PBSviaPNW
    @PBSviaPNW Před 2 lety +1

    8:33 😮

  • @pritambissonauth2181
    @pritambissonauth2181 Před 2 lety

    Announced last year in Mauritius, but still waiting!

  • @Xetenor
    @Xetenor Před 2 lety

    Generally I would avoid first gen of any car, especially an EV. Their instrument design with the AC controls is really going to be frustrating in my eyes. But the dealer markup is a major turnoff but problem is people are bending their backs just to buy in the hype. Not the greatest idea. Still, Kia is trying and has come a long way. I am just glad they are making a 2023 stinger at least and didn't kill the car. Great review video also guys.

  • @Reznor_Meeks
    @Reznor_Meeks Před 2 lety +2

    My wife’s boyfriend Tyrone said that this one you can drive and not be required to order soy lattes, great car, with my bachelor in barrista arts I think my social status will sky rocket among my hipster friends if my wife drive one of these, thank Mr Geese!

  • @diegomontoya8889
    @diegomontoya8889 Před 2 lety +2

    I like the EV6, I have liked it since the concept was unveiled. I saw this, as the video suggests, an EV for normal car people... The elephant in the room is of course that KIA already had an amazing EV called the KIA Soul EV, and they decided not to sell it here. We have the Niro (ugh) and thankfully now,the EV6. But, the Soul is so recognizable, why did they decide not to sell it here?

  • @erickirshner2810
    @erickirshner2810 Před rokem +1

    I like the exterior and interior better on the EV6. Not that I dislike the Ionic 5. Just prefer the aerodynamic futuristic look.