Orbea Orca OMX First Ride Review - Aero, Light and Great Handling
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- čas přidán 7. 07. 2024
- Davey Arthur gets his hands on the brand new Orbea Orca OMX for a short time but he didn't let that stop him from getting you his first thoughts.
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0:00 Intro
0:38 New features
2:13 Bar stem
4:00 Ride impressions
4:38 Tires
5:08 Speed
6:02 Climbing
6:48 Sprinting
7:06 Speed test
7:41 Sam Bennet
8:05 Sam Bennet world tour
8:36 Simon Smart
10:01 Development Process
11:27 Measurement fidelity
12:10 Moving legs
13:27 Botton Bracket
16:39 Outro
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orbea is one of the underrated brands that really perform,realistic price as well.
Great video Dave, very detailed and in-depth 👌
Nicely loaded in the car. Mech side down
good way to ruin a bike 😂
I noticed that too. smh
Whyyyyyyyyy
And i have to trust this guy ?
First thing I noticed! Wow
Great video review on what I expect to be a great bike! How great? In November, I ordered a frameset, which should arrive in about a month.
Key features for me are that I can hide the cables while using my favorite bars, that it accepts wide tires, and that it has a moderate race geometry - not as relaxed as an endurance bike, but not hyper aggressive. With wide tires, it will be perfect for my annual Seattle to Portland (200 mi+) ride. The custom paint cemented this bike at the top of my list.
Some competitors’ lightweight aero bikes have integration but force you to use their bars (Scott Addict RC.) Almost none have this tire clearance. Some are overly aggressive for my taste (Willier.) The Tarmac only gives integration at the $-Works level. BMC was more expensive. The Super Six paint is ugly.
I currently own a heavy, aluminum endurance bike with discs and a 2010 carbon, Dura-Ace rim brake Felt F1 with carbon rims. So, why get this bike? Where I live, I get rainy winters, blazing summers, and have long, steep descents on crappy roads. And I don’t race. I almost died twice riding rim brakes in the wet where I almost coasted (while grabbing the brake levers) into traffic. On long descent, I want to keep my speed in check, but I worry about delaminating the rim on hot days. (It hasn’t happened to me, but I worry that it could without warning.) Sure, rims are great in moderate weather where I can let it roll, but I often choose my 22lb bike for steep climbing days simply for safety.
So you rim-only snobs can stuff it. My safety and confidence in equipment are with way more than a couple hundred grams. Disc brakes a a requirement for me in my environment. The peace of mind I get from discs is fantastic. That said, if rim brakes work well for you in your environment, cheers! Enjoy them. But, I’ll never buy a rim brake bike again. [Soapbox Mode OFF]
My second place choice was the Scott Addict RC. After that, the Cannondale Super Six.
If I were a racer, I’d choose a more aggressive bike - and maybe separate climbing and aero bikes. As a rider, the OMX has the perfect blend of features. It will be great to have that one bike that works for all road situations.
Thanks again for the great video review!
Enjoy your new bike dude. I wish you thousands of kilometers in good health and shape.
Lovely bike
Another great review David , Orbea or TCR where would you put your money if buying ? what size are you riding in this video ?
: Wow, you managed to almost rip the rear derailleur cage off on a Di2 system crosschaining that bad boy like a true pro :D
Don't believe what they tell you, crosschaining is fine* 😀 *anything breaking is not our responsibility
My first thought was it looks like Orbea took many of the design cues for the OMX from the Specialized Tarmac.
@@fjt3637 ... and all are most likely made by Merida in Taiwan.
Still would be more than ha
Happy with direct mount brakes and as much integration as possible. Fav disc bike would still be a scott foil. Kudos to the glossy paint finish though 👍.
I love the Foil, but not integrated cables!! that is unforgivable!
7.91 kg for the bike with pedals and bottle cage? The P2 weigh 400 g alone. Wheelset is 1640 g. So potentially lighter than it appears. The 830 g for the frame is without paint, I imagine.
2:22 Bike resting on derailleur? Save the derailleur hanger with some foam tubes on either side.
Most of the pro are running disc because the can get light Aero with better brakes , most of the top brands can get to uci Weight limit with no problem, Brands like Pinarello and Bianchi pro sill running rim I think the the frames are too heavy , Will it be a disadvantage in the Season in 2020?
So that is their "light" bike? and just fyi that bike scale is designed to be clamped in the bike stand. I was gonna mention the laying the bike down on the wrong side in the car. The others beat me to it. Live and learn.
Integration of cabling at cockpit is great visually and perhaps saves a few watts, however aside from Charles Rush comments below (which I agree 100% and also subscribe to this approach), possible downside, especially with hydraulic disc brakes, is when travelling with a bike bag, given mist decent bags require removal of bar/stem and tucking it to the bike triangle void. with all that cabling tucked away, how does one travel with the bike in bike bag?
Dave says he has travelled with a Specialized Venge, which has similar cable routing and managed to fit it in a bike bag with relative ease and no major issues when dismantling. For one holiday a year, that seems fine but if you're travelling more often than that then it may be something to consider
Orbea
how tall are you and what is the size of the frame?
Bar those hideous graphics on the fork, this comes in close to, if not at the very top of my wish list. Price is painful though, but in a couple of years I might just be able to snag me one from somewhere
I think the review we are all waiting for is a comparison review between the Orbea, the Focus, The Cannondale, the S Works, The Willier and every other new bike that looks exactly like this one......................
Dave is ticking them off slowly but surely so I'm sure he could do something like this in the future... (He won't read this so I'll happily sign him up for more work)
They look the same cause they are all made in the same Chinese factory.
Love the video. Would you say a size 55 Orbea would equate to a size 56 Specialized? Cheers!
It would be pretty close in terms of sizing. We have a couple of articles on sizing if you need anymore help 👍
road.cc/content/feature/what-are-stack-and-reach-and-why-are-they-important-266968
road.cc/content/feature/how-read-bike-geometry-table-268675
road.cc many thanks!
Wow, it's so heavy! I am looking to upgrade from my 2016 Giant TCR Advanced Pro. Ultegra, rim breaks, carbon wheels. With bottle cages, garmin mount, rear light, front light mount, saddle bag and 105 carbon pedals it weighs 7.6kg in size XL, and cost me AUD$4000 (just over 2000 quid by todays exchange rate). So if I bought the Orbea (for more than double that amount), I would be looking at at least a 0.5kg weight disadvantage.... ridiculous.
And there are issues with the BB as well
two completely different types of bike, Aero and disc is going to be more. To compare them would be ridiculous and this is in no wa heavy!
Compatible with Kickr Core? TIA
Were you able to get the new scott addict for testing?
It's on our list of bikes we want to test this year, so watch this space as they say
3:22 , seems like the front axle is not mounted all the way through 🙄
Yikes, good eye!
Is the weights of 7.9kg including the weighty PowerTap pedals or is that without them?
that's without
@@roadccHi, it cannot be possible man, are you sure you removed the pedals? 850g aprox for the frame size 55 if it is 833g for the size 53 (which is a standard weight for a top racing bike (+/- 100g)), plus carbon handlebar, and 1600g wheelset, plus the bottle cages and the computer mount, in a size 55, it should be around 7.5kg, which perfectly matches, if you remove the 400g of the powertap pedals, from the weight of the scale :)
Where are made in?
I see this bike is size 55. Did it fit you? How tall are you? Best regards
Dave is 5 foot 11ish. He's been reviewing bikes for years so I would expect him to have his sizing very much dialled in. Unfortunately he's left to do his own thing so I can't ask him specifically but I'm sure if you find him on social media he would be happy to answer any questions
heavy AF
not really.
Yeah, put on 28 or 32 rubber and garantee comfort. Then it will ride like a slow gravel bike. You can forget the marketing hype that a wider tyre gives you less rolling resistance crap. My 2 cents experience!
@@patrickkelly4400 Exactly! Gain comfort lose speed. More effort to drive the bike with heavier tyres. With the extra contact patch also comes more friction you have to overcome. Cant expect to ride a gravel size tyre and go faster than a smaller road 25mm tyre. If that was the case, all road bikes would come fitted with fat 32 tyres or bigger .
If that claim was true, the Tour de France would be ridden on fat bikes.
@@einundsiebenziger5488 I thought so too! 😄
I wouldn't have said integrating aero and lightweight design was a new thing at all, you mentioned 3 bikes, and off the top of my head, you have the Cannondale Supersix Evo, Pinarello Dogma F12, Ribble Endurance SLR. So that's 6 and I'm sure there are loads more, so your be more accurate to say Orbea are a bit late to the party with this!
You are right in the fact that there are now a lot of bikes coming to the market with those design principles in mind but all the bikes mentioned have come out in the last year or so, which shows that this is still in the early infancy. They're all going to have new takes on aero/lightweight and bringing different solutions should only be a good thing
I don’t think that Orbea is all that late to the party as the party really got going with the companies’ 2020 product cycles. Trek and Canyon lack low seat stay/disc.hidden cable bikes, so they seem to be the latecomers.
what size do you use?
55cm
Bruhhhh
That RD
SMH
7.9 kilo’s without pedals for a 5k bike. It’s a nice looking bike and I love the customization that Orbea offers. But the weight (both the OMR and OMX) makes me look elsewhere.
Curious, what would be your choice for a light weight 5k bike? I'm due for a new bike and looking for options.
@@williammaxwell4 If lightweight is a priority, bikes to consider are the Giant TCR SL, Canyon Ultimate SLX, Trek Emonda SLR, Cannondale SuperSix (EVO), Ridley Helium SLX, BH Ultralight. There are multiple good options available with that budget. Also take a look at the Italian brands (Bianchi, Colnago, Pinarello, Willier) if that's your cup of tea. My personal choice would be the Giant, because of the quality of the frame, amazing ride and the excellent value.
Bill Maxwell lighter proper Aero bike for
@@Tuslareb the giant comes with a powermeter at that price as well.
@@aidanmasterson50 plus its just a cheap frame. Giants are more quality.
Weight?
Did you watch the whole video? It's 7.9 kg or 17 lbs.
Mass
£5k, 7.9kg and has discs but no mudguard mounts. Bought a new rim brake bike in 2018 for £1.6k (discounted from £2k) which weights 7.9kg. I have a disc brake winter bike with mudguards, and this Orbea is a nice bike but it shows how much discs cost.
Any issues with the BB?
Not during this first ride but that is the sort of thing that would turn up over longer term testing
@@roadcc thank you
Still super heavy for a bike without paddles on IMO.
The frame is 833g so with a different selection of components you could probably get the bike closer to 7kg, the potential is there
Yes that’s true. Would love to see a build with deep wheels and discs at 6.8kg. With the Scott it is possible.
Did you weight the bike with or without the powermeter pedals you were using? Thanks
Without
8kg for a bike costing £5000 is not acceptable, especially when the frame is only 800g! Disc brake bikes have moved the goalposts! It used to be lightweight cost money, but now in the minds of manufacturers you should take the extra weight of discs and be grateful while applying for a mortgage to buy one! Edit: Roadcc, you should know better than to load a bike in the car mech side down. Unforgivable!
Don't believe you layed the bike down on the rear mec side.. day one basics failed..
7.9 noo good...Ultimate CF SL Disc 8.0 Di2 Aero 7.35kg
thats not that much difference, and canyon is a horrible company to deal with.
Nice bike & terrible recording & sound
that hub is completely out of grease, so cringy to listen to that metal on metal sound
No, it isn't, as it's disc only.
So that is their "light" bike? and just fyi that bike scale is designed to be clamped in the bike stand. I was gonna mention the laying the bike down on the wrong side in the car. The others beat me to it. Live and learn.