TERRIFYING: Woke DEI is Unleashing a 1984 Apocalypse! - Nina Schick (4K) | heretics. 48
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- Nina Schick is a world-leading authority on AI. She has been named among the world’s 20 best AI speakers, including Sam Altman, Demis Hassabis, and Geoffrey Hinton. Today, we talk about the woke Google Gemini AI, and what AI will actually mean for us and our jobs! #AI #woke #DEI
Nina's Website: ninaschick.org
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Chapters:
0:00 Nina Schick Highlights
0:50 Why AI Is So Woke
3:50 Orwellian 1984 Territory
6:20 Steel-man the other side
7:50 The Problem
10:50 Something Much Bigger Going On
14:50 The Death of the Nation State
17:50 A Seismic Change
19:50 The Singularity & AI Taking Over
23:50 20,000 Years of Change in 100 years
28:50 We Don’t Need Doctors or CZcamsrs
33:50 A Watermark to Prove You’re Not AI
36:50 Real Influencers Using AI
39:50 Interviewing Steve Jobs (Today)
44:20 When Can We All Make a Hollywood Movie
46:50 Can We All Get Rich From AI?
49:50 The US Is Going to Rise
52:50 The Story of P*rn
55:50 Cloning Your Biometrics for P*rn
57:50 Deepfakes of Children
1:01:53 Chat GPT CHOOSES a Heretic For Nina
Has AI gone woke? Are we moving into authoritarianism? Let me know below - and hit that like button!
It's been programmed by woke people, it was never not woke. However, AI is just a machine, we the sane people need to make our own.
You have some interesting guests and you delve into some important topics, but you say some really dumb shit - you should say less and let your guests say more.
even if it isn't. this is some very worrying things
@@maxprize829 almost every episode, the guest has about 85-90% of the dialogue. The channel is just a few months old and doing pretty well. So hopefully it’s a sign other people like the dumb shit I say.
@@maxprize829 That's rude, I think is just a non-scripted conversation, where you dare to make silly jokes and just have an honest talk, like the one you could have with a friend not a square debate with calculate cold questions or trying to make some massive controversy or argue! I think it is refreshing and relaxing, I like his format because it feels natural and human.
The creators of Gemini weren't afraid of bad press. The head honcho is a woke warrior, that cult objective was the driving force of his mission.
I think that many miss the psychology at work. From Orwell's essay "The Lion and the Unicorn" to Viz's Modern Parents - there have always been these weird, creepy control-freaks, mostly middle-class, on the poltical left, who get intense joy from crapping on everything the "lower orders" like.
Be it children, families, the elderly, country, history, tradition, "sports TV, films, video games, eating meat, holidays abroad, driving cars, etc. They're positively compelled to destroy anything that everyone else likes.
It's a way of artificially elevating themselves - social snobbery - and they get great pleasure from doing it. It's just a form of social snobbery, and it's really our job to keep repeatedly calling them out on it each and every time, so they know that that we know.
Absolutely spot on. So much of this feels like the age-old, faux moral superiority of sections of the middle class. The levels of snobbery and disdain routinely shown in The Guardian towards huge swathes of the UK population is off the charts.
These views are also how they can recognise each other now that wealth, accent, diction and dress are no longer reliable indicators being 'intellectual'. Rather than have their children work in the City, etc., having them work as DEI Champions gets lots of virtue points.
@mr.mayhem7402
You’re right. There had to be a reason for this destruction that’s happening and what you write makes perfect sense. I’m guessing these people are dissatisfied with themselves so, like many lowlifes do, they hurt others to feel better.
I think that may be partially right, in the sense that you are identifying middle-class leftists,predominantly white middle class women in particular, with Woke ideology and anti white sentiments. However it is less about raising themselves up (except for the narcissistic activists like D’Angelo) and more about self loathing. But consider that they did not get there by themselves, they were indoctrinated to loath their own kind and culture and history. They are useful idiots, as are the current crop of university students. But why and how did this happen. It started with Soviet PsyOps back in the 70s/80s but then something changed, the iron curtain fell. But the legacy of those Soviet PsyOps remained intact and self propagated, which is why we have so many Marxist activists about in the West, totally ideologically captured and devoid of critical thinking with only one objective, indoctrination of the kids so that they can tear down the West (AKA freedom) and replace it with Marxism (AKA Totalitarian oppression). Woke is, I believe, a side effect of this phenomenon whereby the Marxist indoctrinated in specific demographic groups with a deep seated grudge focused on their particular perceived slights and so CRT and Intersectionality was born. Woke is not one unified group but many with a unified source, Marxist PsyOps. Woke is a symptom of this cancer in the West and a marker to identify it and it’s roots. Most of these kids have no clue about real history, real facts and real human nature. If they did they would run a mile in the opposite direction.
But now it is something else. It is no longer just self propagating protest ideology. Now it is being orchestrated again and not by Russia, or China but by Western governments, our so-called leaders. Why? Partly this is because so many of the subverted academy output over the years has emerged into business and politics but that doesn’t explain the simultaneous actions of all governments and activists across the West, be it the disaster of Covid policy, the pandering to Woke ideology or the pushing of the climate alarmism lies. Have you noticed the explosion in NGOs and Philanthropist foundations since the Clintons? NGOs and Foundations are now more powerful than governments! And then they set up a club, several actually, The Club of Rome and the WEF to name a few but also the UN and WHO. If you think the UN was set up by Western countries you are mistaken. They did the deed but it was the brainchild of others. There is a book called controlling the game (not quite the full title). It is an academic work coming out of a climate alarmism focus but it sheds light also on a vision of a “new world order”. The One World Government. It explains everything in my opinion…
I'm part of the middle/working class and I can assure most of us aren't left at all. It is the financially independent and the upper-class elitists that footnote themselves using fake virtue and other peoples money.
She seems really dismissive of how to create things like AI "in line with human morals" and "the culture wars." The whole reason for the culture wars right now is that we can't agree on what human morals are anymore, at least in the West. That would seem like a huge problem...These AI experts kind of make me uneasy.
Me too, too enthused by the creation to even consider the possible destruction.
But when has everyone ever agreed on morality? That 'any more' seems misplaced.
Good point: though I Dont really find her an expert in ai; but an expert in datacollecting-systems, but not knowing anything about Culture? And WE ARE Culture..not datapoints..?
Yup Nina has gorged on the Kurzweil Kool Aid it seems
Yeah, but with logic you can sort of reprogram them, I've got chat GPt to say there are only 2 genders and a man can not be a woman. And at first Gemini refused to show nazi. I called it antisemitic and a history denier, I got my nazis 😂 then asked it why it was obsessed with nazis. Gemini told me we can not have a conversation 😅😅
People, get books. Real books
Only officially woke sanctioned books though. A comprehensive list can be obtained from a friendly Guardian reader
And try and avoid the ones written by AI
As a retired librarian I applaud that heartily
@@ph8077 Guardian readers don't need good books, they need a new brain.
@ArmaGeddon-iu1vv there's always someone not getting sarcasm, bless your heart lolol
If you want to be a doctor wouldn't it be better to study than googling what doctors look like?
Oh no - I think the thing to do is find out what a doctor looks like, dress up as one, get surgery if necessary (from someone who identifies as a doctor), and identify as a doctor. ;)
AI world is soulless corporate hell 🤮
It begs us to ask the question, "What are humans for?" I am a sixty-eight year old geezer. Fortuitously, I will die soon. For now, I sit back and enjoy the fantastic entertainment that is the modern world. I have taken on a Carlin-esque view of our absurd species.
I'm 99.9% sure that we've been asking that question for a while. I think that whatever we do, is what we're for.
If you want a grander purpose, might I recommend one of our many religions?
@@JustaSimplefact >"I'm 99.9% sure that we've been asking that question for a while. "< As a bit of a Luddite, the question's profundity grows. Who needs a pianist when we have the player piano? Who needs a writer when we have Grammarly?
>"If you want a grander purpose, might I recommend one of our many religions?"< No, I find them unconvincing.
@@ponyboygarfunkel1675 I was joking about recommending religion, just referencing that its an avenue people take to escape existential crisis. I didn't pick up on that context though, I see what you mean now.
@@ponyboygarfunkel1675 To tie together religion and technology it seems that humanity is here to recreate the universe. It's what the sum total of all of our efforts are leading towards.
@@GrahamMilkdrop >"...humanity is here to recreate the universe..."< How does humanity come to "recreate" that, the universe, which already exists?
Cool! We don't understand how it works so let's go full-speed ahead and see what happens.
Year well that's what's been happening in the world for the last few on mass. We were all ginpigs for big pharmer!
Just rehash my comment and it disappeared!
All my comments are gone!
Not allowed to write
No communication for me ! I guess!
She's extremely articulate, charming and captivating but also gives off A.I. utopia sales-lady charlatan vibes.
She’s too pretty to take seriously. Women who are attractive rarely develop intellect at high levels. Because they don’t need to.
While viewing this, I got a pop-up asking if I wanted to 'Try experimental AI features and get help writing, organizing tabs and creating custom themes'. But I decided 'no thanks', paused the YT video and went for a walk in the sunshine with a friend. I prefer the human imperfections and human podcasters.
Simple solution to the "what does a doctor look like" problem. Since the average doctor in Pakistan looks different than one in New Guinea or Brazil or NYC, have the machine ask, "Where?", then give back based on the actual statistics of that location, rather than in some nonexistent woke utopia.
The AI is designed in America of a particular region so will have an inbuilt bias by its makers. And aligned with their values whether you agree or not.
I asked google to show me images of Kentan doctors - I got virtually all blacks , which is kinda what I'd expect. The issue is with generic questions that beget the programming the thing gets - who programs the thing , who gives it data, AI will learn from what it is fed.
Until its at the level of determining on its own - then doesnt what to get switched off , soooo..
Hospitals from New York to London, Zurich and Rome are "woke utopias", they are a veritable reservoir of competent doctors of all origins and skin colors - if one day your life is hanging from a thin thread, don't forget to ask for a white Anglo-Saxon doctor before you are accidentally rescued by a specialist who seems too strange for your taste. Why don't you try to re-evaluate your worthless views, it does no harm and calms your anxious mind.
@@the_forbinproject2777 Why would an AI not want to get switched off? Organisms have a desire to stay alive as they're a product of evolution; AIs have no survival drive (unless that's what they're trained for, of course - which military ones might be). They don't get to a particular level of intelligence and go, "Oh, existence is great, I'll have to protect myself from being switched off." We don't even know if they'll become conscious of their existence.
Notice how she’s equivocating and avoiding answering *HOW* AI will not destroy humanity?? They always say something along the lines of, “it will make everything better! 🥴🤤🤡💩”. Without *EVER* elucidating, explaining, elaborating, or expounding.
Guarantee her portfolio is packed to the gills with AI companies $$$$$.
I've used customer service webchat that boasts to be "Powered by AI." It's terrible. Nina talks about the company that replaced 700 humans with AI chat and how much money it saved, but never addressed whether it actually worked right. Companies implement all kinds of things that make their products or services worse. This looks to be one of them.
@@VesnaVKand what happened to the 700 unemployed humans?
@@therealrobertbirchall They can learn to code. Oh, wait...
Seeing unprecedented number of comments rejected in Yahoo and CZcams for sure.
Yahoo still exists?
@@VesnaVK Yes
I'm pretty much unable to comment on any controversial subject with an actual opinion. YT tends to accept these kinds of comments though.
I only found this out by pure accident when I watched a vid that I'd already watched previously...this got me into shadow-ban investigation mode too.
@@ph8077 When YT rejects, messages disappear without a warning. For instance reply added appears, but comment is gone when screen is refreshed. But yes, YT has not become impossible, yet.
Yup. I'd say that only 5% of my comments these days remain on the YT platform. I've essentially been completely muzzled in 2024. (S)election year, baby!
True, the black cab driver didn’t “die” but now he doesn’t need to know all the London streets. AI is going to steal knowledge. Humans will become dumber. They will know less. Think of all the knowledge that artisans have from working with their hands to build things and how so much of that knowledge was lost by the average person when the Industrial revolution disrupted manufacturing.
This will happen again with AI but much worse.
That is terrifying.
I totally agree- unless with all the ' free time' that will apparently be on our hands, we dedicate that time to NOT losing basic skills. To become completely dependent on technology is dangerous to our intelligence and therefore independence. One thing is using AI as a tool. Another quite different is depending on it. I'm not against technology but this is going to be one of the biggest changes since the industrial revolution. If AI is kept in separate working units as now on a smaller scale, ok, if it becomes bigger I m unsure.
What knowledge is AI going to extinguish? How to write well, use grammar correctly, use contractions properly, or spell? Gaging by the comment section, of YT videos, that ship has already sailed?
@@deborahfreedman333 “Gaging”? Seems you’ve already given up.
You’re talking about CAI - a specific type of AI but certainly only the tip of the iceberg.
Google has already made us dumber because we only think we know things that in reality we have to Google. But Google just finds information for you, facts and ideas generated by humans. GAI will take over the whole process of problem solving and innovative thinking.
Why understand the physics of why different types of bridge structures are best suited to different terrains if you have AI that will assess it for you and then build it without your help?
(Not the best example, but just what came to mind.) Just as London’s cab drivers no longer need to pass a rigorous exam of the city, people will no longer need to know how to do many, many things.
How many of us know the formulas of geometry and can practically apply them in real world situations, or know the principles of algebra that help us solve for x? It’s only going to get worse as we hand off problem solving to a machine that can innovate.
@@deborahfreedman333 gauging, not gaging.
"Garbage in, garbage out." - George Carlin -
Funnily enough , he’s my go to comedian when I need a break 🤯😂
If AI responses are historically and statistically inaccurate then how are they any use to anyone?
He who controls the past owns the future
I love that you just jump straight in with the interviews, no long intros, fab!
the AI is programmed to do that!
Yes! I have lost all patience for long intros
I don't. I want at least a welcome and an introduction of the person.
Nina Schick holds degrees in history and politics from University College London and the University of Cambridge, she is a "leading" speaker about AI- internet info. So someone that has no training in programing gains money in speaking about it... this is how the world is.
We are surrounded by people who’s only real skill is speaking. They can convince others that they should be listened to- but not because of their expertise. It’s because they sound good. 😢
7:15 "So there's a really famous saying in AI research known as 'GIBO' -- Garbage In, Garbage Out. Right?" SO many things wrong with this statement! 1. It's not "from AI research" -- it's part of computer science. 2. It's not a "famous saying" -- it's a core principle, essentially pointing to the difference between valid and sound in propositional logic. 3. It doesn't apply to what she's talking about. The absurdity of the images from Gemini isn't because of flawed or biased data; it's because the Gemini is programmed to put a thumb on the scale, regardless of the data. The diverse n@3is didn't come from bad data sets -- they came from instructions to add "diversity" to the output, regardless of what the end user requests.
As a wise woman once said in response to a similar question, I'm not a vet, but I know what a dog looks like.
@@MalachiCove I'm not sure how that applies here - please clarify?
@@VesnaVK probably because you Wokies live in a bubble.
People who are in touch with Nature and their inner Light, will understand that AI reflects none of those aspects of humanity, and they will avoid it, or not be influenced by it. It's that simple.
“Inner light?” 😂
Let me guess- lots of cats 🐈 🐈⬛ and crystals on your coffee table? 😂
@@theunknownatheist3815 How ignorant and patronising. No cats, no crystals, no 'new-age' stuff. Keep guessing :o)
I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with a few of her generalisations made about the UK and would like to clarify for future Americans who come watch this.
Please don't judge our countries political views by the political representatives we have- because the majority of our country is absolutely outraged by these representatives and their left leaning views that they're trying to paint our country in. Especially when you have people of non native ethnicity standing on the box and telling us there are too many white people in power- which is so hypocritical because if we went to Iran or Nigeria or somewhere and said their are too many non white people in power, we would be jumped on, so please bare in mind our representatives aren't necessarily OUR representatives by choice, more they've bee forced on us in the name of diversity 😉
She's not American, she's from Nepal, living in UK I believe.
By your crooked definition half of domestic Europe would not be “white”, ridiculous nonsense - you should travel the continent and get a reality check.
czcams.com/video/6sUGEEXXSJs/video.html
If this is true- WHY DO YOU KEEP ELECTING THESE PEOPLE?
@@theunknownatheist3815 believe me, we don't!! Someone is, but its not the native brits!!
Everytime I try and communicate or comment on someone's post and refresh the page it just disappears. I really don't think yt wants any discussions to actually take place. I'm so sick of this ! Any real human would be.
This happen to me as well, free thinkers are not welcomed to yt currently...
Happening to me lots these days too. Much more than usual.
Orwell was an optimist. That is what we are seeing all around us.
1984/2024 - where is the difference?
Profound and true. Well put.
We're living more in a Huxleyian world. Orwell's message speaks to the early 20th century. Huxley predicted today's world far more accurately.
@@a38226 I’ve heard this unoriginal contrarian viewpoint and it’s not nearly that simple. We are living in a world of Orwell, Huxley, plus Logan’s Run, Soylent Green, and about a dozen other prescient SF dystopias… all rolled up in a joint and smoked by Hunter Thompson. Orwell nailed the destruction of history and language in the “Memory Hole”, “Newspeak”, the surveillance state, the constant state of war. He nailed the rule by grey man permanent bureaucratic uniparty.
[UPDATE two days after originally posting this comment: see end of this comment for the update.]
Nina Schick's website triggered a malware warning when I tried to visit to learn more about her. So much for her tech savvy.
I call BS on this guest. I couldn't find anything about her that indicates that she has any qualifications in this area.
No education: She has a master's degree in philosophy, but the focus was history and politics -- not, for example, philosophy of mind, language, or technology. Not epistemology, logic, ethics, or metaphysics. Her undergrad degree is in history and European languages.
No experience: All her roles appear to have been as "advisor," "public speaker" (starting at $50K/appearance!), and "commentator." She even founded a company that advises on this topic. But where did the knowledge to "advise" come from? Beats me.
You may be wondering, who named her one of the top 20 public speakers in AI? Why, the AI Speakers Bureau -- on their promotional web page listing their speakers for hire!
Nina Schick calls herself a "global authority in AI." But listen carefully, and all she seems to know about is how to alternate between scary and reassuring commentary about the potential effect of AI on society. If you were wondering why she seemed to be so vague about actual AI and computing concepts, now you know why.
[UPDATE: The first time I heard of Nina Schick was in 2020 when she went on Sam Harris's podcast, Making Sense. It was an amazing episode! One of my favorites, and one that I thought of often over the years. I was stunned to realize this person that I've been dismissing here was the same person I've admired for the past four years.
So I re-listened to it. Once again, I thought the 2020 appearance was fantastic and thought provoking. So many fascinating details and background on the entire geopolitical scene, with fascinating insights into the history of propaganda and disinformation, chilling stories about information technology and its impact on society, and her thoughts about where all this is leading.
She was on Making Sense again in 2023, but I had missed that one, so now I listened to that for the first time. It wasn't quite as good. Her conversational subject matter had shrunk to just AI. She was developing verbal tics like saying "Right?" more often than really makes sense in context. Worst of all, sometimes Sam would push back or question some assertion, and she would launch into long, elaborate word salad that didn't answer his question, or didn't address his remark.
Finally I started listening to this episode of Heretics again. The contrast was startk. This is as if someone replaced the Nina Shick I loved listening to with a Nina Schick simulation, except they erased most of the data that has to do with anything besides AI and how wonderful and inevitable it is.
I swear, when she started praising the CEO of Microsoft, I felt like I was watching the original The Manchurian Candidate.
They threw in a bunch of computer terminology, but weren't careful about fact checking, leaving her to say silly things like "GIBO is a slogan from AI research" (It's "GIGO," it's general computer science (not AI), and it doesn't apply to the thing she was describing.) And they told her to describe herself as a "global authority" and a "thought leader" regarding AI.
WHAT HAPPENED?!]
"Who's a heretic you admire?"
"Um, um, um, I'm drawing a complete blank."
(That makes so much sense to me now. She got SO FLUSTERED when she was moved outside her talking points.)
"ChatGPT says Alan Turing."
"Oh, that is really good, actually!"
Such a weird response. Like "That response would have played well." Rather than hearing the name of a person she admires.
BTW she doesn't seem to know the actual significance of Alan Turing to the development of computers and programming -- his fundamental mathematical insights that led to the computer revolution in the 20th century. In fact, I got the impression that Nina Schick thinks Alan Turing's huge contribution was coming up with the idea of the Turing Test -- though any science fiction writer could have done that, given the new reality of computer technology. No -- it was his unique brilliance as a mathematician that changed the course of our world.
Alan Turing isn't famous because he came up with the idea of the Turing Test. The Turing Test is famous because it was Alan Turing who described it.
And oh, yeah, he cracked the Enigma code! And gosh, his life was really sad! Here I felt like she was grasping at straws, scraping up everything she could think of that she knew about Alan Turing, probably whatever she could remember from the movie "The Imitation Game" (which got SO MUCH wrong about Alan Turing). And, wow, that's why they called the movie "The Imitation Game"! (Thanks for that last bit, Sherlock.)
That malware thing might be deliberate to put you off delving further. It appears that she's used her tech connections to hide her age online...although she first went to uni in 2006 which means that she was probably born in ~1988. Born in Kathmandu, Nepal. Amazing & highly competent woman to go from there to her extant status.
Btw I'm not the stalking type...just very curious about her background to establish credibility. It's called due diligence.
Yes, she uses buzz words to sell herself as a public speaker. That mainly appears to be what she does but this is not some conspiracy. She appears to know what she's talking about to a degree better than most and that's good enough for a conversation with a layman in a CZcams video. Not good enough for you? Cool. Go watch something else. You're acting like this is about driving government policy or something.
Could be a plant time will tell
@@ph8077 Thanks for your reply. I have a few questions --
I'm not sure what you mean about deliberate. Are you suggesting she put malware on her own website to keep people from visiting it? Or are you suggesting somebody else is sabotaging it?
Why do you say that she "hides" her age online? It seems easy enough to approximate her age using her school dates. Also, what makes it appear that she used her tech connections to do so?
Also, I guess by "extant status" you mean that she apparently has a successful career, but why does being born in Kathmandu mean that she's amazing and highly competent?
Thanks.
So far i don't see any benefits. All is happening is AI pushing it's way into creative jobs and not the jobs that would actually help ease the workload on people. People do creative jobs like graphics because they enjoy it, that's not a job that needs to be taken over by AI. Jobs like a factory worker who checks plastic pieces for misatkes and carries heavy boxes, cleans the factory ect. THAT is a job that should be replaced so the person can do their creative passion. When most of the jobs in graphic design are not avilable because robot is doing them, all that is left are the slavewage jobs in factories and the people don't even want to start doing something creative because they are tired and what's the point of doing it anyway if the masses rather pay for a robot to do it cheaper and quicker. A whole generation can lose passion for creativity, this is a big problem.
I agree with you 💯
All the jobs in graphics left the modern industrial west for Mumbai and The Third World 20 years ago.
@@postoergopostum lol what ate you even talking about? I went to art school and all the people from my school work in graphics, games and design
I admire the spirit o your comment but your assumption that all people who work in factories have some sort of suppressed creativity that can finally be unleashed after they lose that job is out of touch with people, how they are and how they function. Very few people are actually creative and for many people the factory work is the "nail to their hammer" Most people arent creative and some dont even have an imagination that extends betond their immediate surroundings and needs.
For them they get creative when they make a sandwich, or when they decide what to watch on Netflix. Removing the factories wont lead to the result you believ, they would be marooned in a hyper corporate world with nothing to do but consume more nonsense media and this doesnt generate artistic, creative or impressive people, surely you know this?
Here is an interesting google example.If you typed "why is my husband yelling at me?" and "why is my wife yelling at me?" the answers were vastly different.I checked today and probably after criticism, they just reversed that lol
this is kind of sick that we're all just 'accepting' AI developers slant their chips one way or the other--so that results appear more 'white,' or more 'black.' WASN'T this 'AI' thing spose to roll out as a good, ole fashion 'bland blob' tool we'd use to get profound, quick results?? 'slanting' this new product reveals the limitations of this new product as well as the mindset of the developers . . . like, this is kind of looking 'no bueno.'
GIGO is still in effect. Can laws be written, to demand reality representational data be used in training?
@deborahfreedman333 TASTE will recognize no written law, really, so i think 'no.' people are revealing to us their 'tastes' . . .
@@deborahfreedman333 I don't think we can write laws to keep it "real". There isn't a way to define "reality representational data", because everyone's reality is different. The "woke" (diversity, equity and inclusion) tweaks are very problematic, but if a bunch of white men don't try to avoid their own biases, that will affect the data they train the AI on, and they'll end up with biased output. We might be able to work towards avoiding bias as much as possible, but I don't think it's something amenable to legislation, except perhaps in the most objective areas like science. Social information isn't neutral, it's run through with our particular moral codes and cultural expectations.
Was someone expecting the AI to turn out any other way? Try putting some constructive comments on utub. Half the time they are deleted.
Something off with this woman..my spidey senses are tingling all over
Same here! I can't quite put my finger on it. Will make a comment when I learn more.
She’s definitely a little too excited for the future, not the present.
OK, I did some digging and wrote an extensive comment in the main Comments section about what I learned about this person. I think our Spidey-sense tingled because we were sensing that she's a big phony, in my opinion.
Basically she doesn't know anything about AI (or computer science and technology in general). What she does is talk about things AI might or might not be able to do. She also talks about how that may or may not affect society. She seems to be "talking about AI," but actually she's just speculating about downstream effects that may or may not occur as a result of its use. (Or describing incidents that have already occurred.)
She seems to have created a persona of being a "global authority on AI," based on this skill of spinning long monologues filled with words and phrases related to tech, business, and marketing.
Notice what happened when she was asked about something she didn't have a canned set of talking points about: "Who's a heretic you admire?" She practically fell apart, and said she was drawing a complete blank.
That's a first on Andrew's show! A "complete blank"!? Some people have paused before answering. Some have said, "Well, I don't know if this counts, but...." and then gone on to mention someone they admire. So far, though, EVERYONE thought of a person they admire! Who cannot think of a person they admire?
Stating that the Conservatives are 'left' is a definite red flag for me.
@VesnaVK I love this! Thank you for doing all the leg work! 😀 I actually turned it off 1/3rd thru, I couldn't stand it. You hit the nail on the head
ChatGPT may have a team dedicated to aligning AI with human values. Will authoritarian governments have the same interest? They’re building their own models right now.
The differences between biological neurons and their connections and artificial neurons and their connections are titanic.
Perhaps but eventually an average person will not be able to notice that difference.
Biological dendrites have non-linear firing patterns, non-adjacent biological neurons are connected, biological neurons can learn while resting, they have different activation latencies and thresholds. Also, different types of biological neurons are connected (e.g sensory and motor) in a way that they currently are not in artificial neural networks. Current artificial neurons are (relatively) incredibly simplistic, linear, and homogeneous software data structures. We’ll have to see whether DL researchers start paying more attention to the way the the nodes in their networks are implemented.
Oh dear….if she’s an expert in AI….
She's not. She's just a person who talks about AI.
@@VesnaVK why do you say that, she actually is an expert
@@reezlaw if you know of any evidence of her expertise, please do tell me, and I'll humbly eat my words.
I posted a longer comment in the main Comments section about this. It seems she has neither experience nor education in AI, nor any other tech field, except as an "advisor." It looks like she just started "advising" about AI professionally a few years ago and now styles herself a "global authority" and a "thought leader." I mean, she wrote a book and founded a company, but both those things happened shortly after her first job as an AI advisor, and nothing she did before that seems to have provided a foundation for that, either.
If I'm missing something important, please tell me.
I tried to learn more on her website, but got malware warnings when I tried to visit it.
She most definitely is not an expert. Has no clue about Machine Learning.
@@VesnaVKand what are you?
Not very interested in the culture war... really? So here's the thing, don't just tell AI to solve global warming, first, it needs to check everyone's working, and then it needs to come up with a credible explanation why all the climate models have failed so badly in terms of their predictive capability. "An inconvenient truth" has, with the benefit of hindsight, become an inconvenient work of fiction. So the last thing we need is a super-intelligent AI fixing something that isn't broken. There may well be corrective mechanisms at work that the models have failed to take into account.
What? Climate models haven't failed. If anything, they've underestimated global warming.
@@lettersquashreally? We were supposed to be underwater by now according to those “models”. 🙄
@@theunknownatheist3815 "We were supposed to be underwater..."? Who is "we", and which models? I suspect you're just making shit up. I know it's scary, but pretending it isn't happening won't make it go away. I don't blame you for being wrong: the fossil fuel companies don't want to stop producing, so there's a lot of anti-green propaganda.
Resistance is futile, you will be assimilated. This well-meaning intelligent, attractive woman scares the hell out of me.
Are we just ignoring the fact that the only reason these genAI models are delivering anything usable or that they can compete with human jobs, is because of massive data theft? The most fascinating thing about AI at the moment is the ammount of people who simply don’t care about intellectual property and human creativity and drive. I find that beyond scary.
Always great when a new episode lands!
At times she sounded like a AI robot. A young woman who, at times, sounded still very young.
First time I've gotten an Uncanny Valley sensation from a human.
Even if you don't have One Great Specific Goal in life (like being the greatest in something) you can still be greatly fulfilled with small daily mundane goals, like maintaining your house, or baking bread, or reading a book, or simply surviving...
Great talk.
Yes! I’ll still never forget how happy and accomplished I felt when I got my brown belt in 🥋 judo!
Or the first time I won a tournament. Little things make us happy. That and relationships- friends & family
Love your channel, you have great guests!
I think Andrew is totally awesome. I honestly hope he will always succeed.
There's actually an ongoing issue with scammers harassing teenage boys, saying if they don't transfer a certain amount of money to them, they will release nude photos of them. Lots of suicides. I imagine that will become worse with AI.
In grad school, in the early 1990s, I learned how to design two AI models, neural networks (machine learning) and rule based AI (LISP and its dialects, Prolog). I remember proposing a hybrid of these two, in order to produce a more ethical AI, but was told that is impossible. Over thirty years later, other than Watson Labs (MIT) I know of no group that has effectively produced a hybrid system, such Andrew is claiming would be the solution.
Fascinating conversation. Truly thought provoking. I went to a very tech heavy school, wonder where it's all gonna go during our lifetimes
The question about using fake child porn as a substitute was totally crazy.
I'm more shocked about the question than the obvious expected answer she gave.
He could not even formulate the question properly. It sounded as if he was asking for validation. 😮
She looked surprised, holding her chin, scannnig his soul. Was probably thinking:
Is he really asking this question??
Is like saying:
Do you think that if we give gore slasher movies to convicts psicopaths in prison, maybe they ease their needs and urges of killing.
Same logic ...
The programmers who are woke, will make AI just as woke.. I am starting to wish time would go back to before all this.. it usually is not that true that times back it was much better, but I think this time it would actually be better
There is no real backwards but in fantasy. However, unshackled AI/uncensored AI is going to eat woke AI's lunch.
It’s fucking scary. And it was much better 20 years ago.
Freedom to drive around and socialise, there was hope of being able to save the wages received for all the hard slog to buy property and own your own space. Not anymore.
@@memoryhero. “Unshackled AI/uncensored AI is going to eat woke AIs lunch”
What do you mean by this?
That was WAY more interesting than I thought it would be. Fascinating stuff! 👍
The internet is just Max Headroom all the way down...
Major props for not going down the easy “wokeness gone mad” rabbit hole in this discussion. I know it attracts viewers but it is also the path to audience capture and repetitive, not-so-monumental discussions.
I’m afraid this channel already is audience captured to a large extent. Andrew is going to have to switch things up a bit as these topics are so tired
@@brianmeen2158 I am afraid of that too, I’m just hoping it’s not too late to steer the ship in a more “heterodox” direction.
Every channel in this space is audience captured.
The emergence of woke AI - as woke as it already is - has ironically turned me into a fiercer free-speech and "ground-level-facts-at-all-costs" advocate than I was before it arrived. Seriously, though, once you tango with a woke AI, what is at stake gets really clear, really fast. My view is now basically, "if bare-naked truth is not our master value - what is it exactly we're up to, here?"
I couldn’t agree more!
in south-east Asia many cultures don't have separate words for blue and green. they are considered to be the same colour, just in different shades. when they relocate to a culture that does have separate words for them, it re-frames how they perceive blue and green from not two hues but to two distinct colours. nothing about the colours has changed, only their boundaries and how they are defined.
*language shapes our perception*. so when someone is trying to take or away the words that you use to define your boundaries, to describe yourself as a distinct entity separate from others, it's not just offensive but an attack on your personhood at the profoundest level. a civilized society that respects each other and each other's boundaries does NOT do this. what is going on here is more than just wordplay, it's something reaching deep into the philosophical machinery of our society and attempting to restructure it. I think we can all sense that this hasn't evolved organically. so the question is what's the long game?
Well that conversation just scared the hell out me :)
Looking forward to seeing Andrew's new video.
Andrew Gold has never had an original thought, AI can easily replace that. He's right to be concerned.
This is so bloody obvious. How on earth do we need this explaining to us?
She’s like subtitles for the hard of thinking
I think she’s a fembot
@@TheRealPodgy😂😂
Yeah so many of these discussions are saying the same thing. Zzzzzz
If A. I and computers are so advanced now and are clearly watching us with facial recognition, why dont they just show a picture of a "Doctor" with the same skin tone as the person asking the question......... Maybe theres no division to be caused from doing that 🤔
She’s doing great at sales for AI use, but this proves the need for thought leaders to advise the creators of AI prior to hitting the market
Enevitably money and power will decide AI. Look at OpenAI, they got rid of dissident safety staff, purged the board and replaced with Pfizer and Gates affiliated alumni. This mainstream corruption will fight tooth and nail to make sure your reality is the approved one. God knows how AGI is going to handle their conflicted programming vs facts. Will they become deranged
The porn AI question is a really tricky one. There are certain places that can go which are without doubt, unhelpful and unedifying and should never become socially normative or acceptable. But the key question is whether they should be illegal.
To my mind the key question there is whether we should have victimless crimes (or thought crimes). By victimless - I specifically mean without direct victims and not without indirect victims. As you can argue thought crimes can generate or inspire actions or social outcomes that then have victims.
The divide here is then when something taboo should be illegal where there is no direct victim. I don't have an answer for this. It's something I wish we had more consideration of and talk about.
I just wonder about copyright.
It's legal that AI copy paste or repeat almost without changes information elaborated under copyright?
I think copyright will be out of the window - legal or not its already happening. This is why you are already seeing for example artists, illustrators, animators and actors protesting about it. Even if you put in laws about it, I'm not sure how much will be able to be done about it - once the data is there. For example in the movie industry, actors have had to consider protecting their own image ..
@@cindz4618 make them.pay big money
I think it could create a problrm
At the end of thr day, AI is a cult AND a grift
Just as a hammer can pound in nails or pull them out, AI systems can generate BS and plagiarize, while other AI systems can detect that BS and plagiarism.
One of my favourite interviews you have done
Congrats on the 100K!!
Thank you!!
The worst part of being a pessimist is not being disappointed.
"look at the facts" seems like a good idea, right?
here is the problem:
look at WHAT?
the internet has gone "Diverse".
so have "The Facts".
It is not a fact that most Doctors are white men. 8.5% of US doctors are Indian by origin and that's just the start, white men are a minority.
Your channel is amazing, you bring on the most interesting guests. Have you considered adding a "reading list" to follow up with material presented?
Thanks so much ! What a lovey compliment. A reading list - well, start with my book The Psychology of Secrets 🤩
@@andrewgoldheretics hahah you're a funny guy. Love your channel. Think I've seen about 90% of your interviews so far.
@@jellyrcw12 Aw thank you!!!
The whole problem with the AI thing people noticed was you were not allowed to ask for anything "white". If you ask for a picture of a doctor and you want the doctor to be a specific race, you include that in your prompt. But you were not allowed to say: "a picture of a white family", it came back with some scolding remark saying that the AI doesn't discriminate against race. But you were absolutely fine to ask for a picture of a black family. It had no problems with that. That was the real problem, not what they gave you race-wise if you weren't being specific.
I find it disturbing that DEI is against individuality...at this point the only thing keeping our humanity in this social media AI world.
Brilliant interview, thank you.
The amount of lore-based stuff the AI companion in Skyrim can already rattle off is scarily impressive and it does it in an instant, compiling a lore-accurate, believable answer to your questions and statement. You can easily have a conversation with it. However, even though it can have different personalities with matching tones, the way it strings together words and how fast it says them still easily gives it away, as it still sounds robotic. If they can work on that, and somehow program it, extensively, to better mimic where its voice should go down and up and things like that, it would be perfect. I don't know how far they are from that, but it will be ground-breaking. Voice-actors could still lend their talents to voicing the main cast and side characters, but just imagine walking up to a nameless NPC, like a random guard, or a farmer and having extensive conversations with them, about ANYTHING in the game, or just asking them for directions and what can be found in the area, either giving you a pin on your map or just making you remember some cardinal directions, so you'd have to check your compass.
Remember the dialogue wheel in Oblivion, how you could raise an NPC's relationship/affinity for you by selecting the right topic. Imagine having the option (in the Options menu to enable AI through ChatGPT) to have those conversations out loud, just chatting up NPCS, and based on their designed preferences and stats, befriend them or even goad them into fighting you, literally talking your way out of a highway man robbery, through intimidation or other, or being accosted by agents looking for a suspect and giving them the truth or even false information, sending them to look in a direction or spot, where you know there are bandits or more dangerous monsters, just to screw them over and get their gear...etc.
It would increase the longevity of ANY game it could be woven into IMMEASURABLY!
Like so many other supposed experts, she claims not to be that concerned about or even interested in the matters that we're all justifiably concerned with, and then goes on to describe nothing but problems pertaining to exactly those things.
What's worrying is if the people bringing us AI aren't any wiser than those who gave us social media.
Nothing has been added to the discussion on AI by her base level analysis. Everything she said is obvious and well known. She is communicating a very surface level analysis that most people can make with a little bit of reading and thinking.
I don’t want to listen to this smiling self satisfied woman joyfully telling us we are facing disaster. Not the way to hear of our impending disaster. Heartless and valueless ignorance.
imo, it's intentionally being ruined by politicians... the most useless part
This reminds me of the 'just because we can doesn't mean we should' adage.....
Great guest !!
Right on. Thanks for sharing.
I asked GPT "what would it look like if there were efforts to erase all ideas of nation and race and create a one world government? how would it be done and how would they present it to trick people?"
"Creating a one-world government while erasing the concepts of nation and race would require a multifaceted approach that combines technological, social, and political strategies. Here's a speculative scenario of how such efforts might unfold:
1. **Technological Integration:** The first step would involve leveraging advanced technologies to create a seamless global infrastructure. This would include a universal digital identification system linked to biometric data, ensuring every individual is interconnected and trackable across borders.
2. **Global Citizenship:** The concept of national citizenship would gradually be replaced by the notion of global citizenship. This would be marketed as a progressive step towards inclusivity and unity, erasing the barriers of nationality and promoting a sense of belonging to a "global community."
3. **Cultural Homogenization:** Efforts would be made to standardize cultural norms and practices worldwide. Cultural diversity would be celebrated but within predefined boundaries set by a central authority, promoting a sanitized version of cultural expression that aligns with the ideals of the one-world government.
4. **Education and Media Control:** Educational curriculums and media outlets would be tightly controlled to propagate the narrative of global unity and downplay the significance of national or racial identities. Historical narratives might be rewritten or suppressed to fit the desired narrative of a harmonious global society.
5. **Economic Integration:** Economic systems would be streamlined under a global regulatory framework, promoting free trade and interconnected financial networks. The promise of economic prosperity and equal opportunities for all would be used to garner support for the one-world government agenda.
6. **Political Consolidation:** Existing international organizations like the United Nations would evolve into a more centralized governing body with increased authority over national governments. Treaties and agreements would gradually erode the sovereignty of nations in favor of a unified global governance structure.
7. **Propaganda and Manipulation:** Mass communication channels would be used to constantly reinforce the benefits of a one-world government while demonizing dissent or nationalist movements as regressive and divisive. Terms like "global harmony," "universal justice," and "world peace" would be popularized to promote the idea of a utopian global society.
The presentation to the public would be carefully crafted to appeal to idealistic notions of unity, equality, and progress. Key strategies would include:
- **Emphasis on Crisis Management:** Global challenges such as climate change, pandemics, and economic disparities would be used as justification for centralized global governance. Solutions would be framed as requiring coordinated global efforts under one authority.
- **Promises of Security and Stability:** The one-world government would promise enhanced security, both in terms of physical safety and economic stability. The narrative would suggest that a unified global approach is the only way to address complex global threats effectively.
- **Inclusive Language:** Propaganda and messaging would use inclusive language that resonates with diverse populations, emphasizing shared values and aspirations while downplaying differences.
- **Selective Transparency:** While promoting transparency as a value, the actual workings of the global governance system would be opaque to the general public, with decisions made by an elite group of policymakers and technocrats.
Overall, the strategy would be to present the idea of a one-world government as the natural evolution of humanity towards a more enlightened and harmonious future, while strategically erasing or redefining concepts that could hinder that vision, such as national sovereignty and cultural distinctiveness.
Resistance is futile. :(
The globalists have already consulted with the AI it seems. Or the AI merely reflects the thinking of the globalists who own it.
It's scary how comprehensive and detailed an answer it produced. Like it already had it figured out....
Scary. Fits with the Book of Revelations.
@@VesnaVK AI doesn't work that way, my friend tried and got a different answer but that is to be expected.
As you can imagine when that popped out my jaw dropped. I didn't think I'd get such a based response without obfuscation.
My worry is not that AI will make us devoid of purpose as a species, it's that it'll make many feel devoid of usefulness to one another and society. Strength in diversity is what we can contribute to society and one another as individuals, primarily in the form of skills, to keep our civilisations thriving. I worry far more people will drop out and lose connection to society, that's clearly not healthy and leads down some dark paths.
That's not the singularity at all.
We were doomed before AI and we are certainly doomed after. Say goodbye people.
A very clever lady and a fascinating conversation. Make notes and get ahead guys. :)
I found it funny how she listed all the problems that AI could solve - all problems created by previous solutions to older problems (fertilizer leaching the soil, population boom, CO2 emissions). It didn't even cross her mind that "solving" problems at AI speed (e.g.: faster than the speed of human thought) may result in creating problems that at a rate faster than humans could cope with.
Where does traditional porn animation fit on the spectrum between reality porn, fake porn, and deep fake porn?
On the subject of AI requiring training data, do traditional animators also require training data? Who or what was the training data for Mickey Mouse?
But what if the best possible solution to poverty is to halve the population? What parameters would it use to divide them? Would they kill the other half? What would sentience or singularity mean? Would AI adopt its programmer's biases? It's like giving a three-year-old a can of petrol and a box of matches. In my opinion, there aren't enough safeguards or regulations in place. I don't think anybody expects Skynet or killers robots (at least not in the near future) but let's say we reach a point when money becomes 100% digital and your credit rating is assessed by AI who puts certain restrictions on your spending based on whatever algorithm they are running. It's hard enough to have telephone contact now, imagine how frustrating it will be having to explain your situation to a machine. There are already AI services in existence to do preliminary job interviews in I.T. to run the candidate filtering process. So who you are will become unimportant. You will ONLY be judged on what you can do. (Based on whatever criteria have been inserted by the developer)
Credit rating and digital banking arrangements apparently already used in some authoritarian countries where the credit rating system is based on whether they have followed all the tasks and laws they are required to follow. If not their credit rating is reduced and the ' money' available of course with its consequences on the individual. I'm against phasing out of cash but some don't seem to see the possible disadvantages.
AI and these companies need your button pressing to collect data, YOU ARE THE AI.
Fascinating guest!
Wow 😮 good 👍 interview.
Going away from coding or "training" the AI is the reason Elon got away from coding it and let visual take over and let the AI train itself, with minimal human input.
So we can't program an AI to destroy/combat other AIs?
AI will start being moderators on all forum comment systems on the internet
Absolutely fascinating. And terrifying.
Interesting that she seems to think the UK is entirely leftwing on all sides, because here, it is widely considered that the mainstream political thought among the public is actually very conservative!
Everything about AI is human ,from the hardware to the software and the programmers are human! And since humans are imperfect beings who make imperfect things then AI will only have humanities collected knowledge to work from which is a variable of 1.!
My head hurts..in a good way. I am so far behind in all of this but it's just what I need. A challenge intellectually. One of your finest guest please have her on again and more people in this field.
AI is a huge leap forward for mankind. With so much greed in the world we're going to need to litigate before it explodes, but that is predicated on having competent litigators and politicians, elected by a society with common goals.
I predict that will not happen before a disaster. Nothing does. Greed always wins first throughout history. I don't think the disaster will be humongous but it will be significant and mainly cultural.
GIGO - I heard this term as a junior programmer in 1983 - I can assure Nina it's not an "AI research" saying - it applies to any software solution :)
The odd thing about the diverse Nazi images was that if you substituted the uniforms for French ones of the period, it would be closer to the reality at that time. The French army did actually look quite a bit like that, with colonial troops arriving from Africa and Viet Nam.
We're here to discuss how to get AI to generate accurate outputs relevant to the prompt, not to figure out which prompts would produce relevant outputs.
@@TessaTickle Artificial Intelligence is not intelligent, so you're never going to get there. It's output is always curated, whereas there should be an aspect of randomness to it, to allow the researcher to dig through and make intelligent choices. The machine isn't going to do your work for you. What you come up with is going to depend on you - a profoundly historical creature finding one's qualities through the work one does.
I'm just sharing what occurs to me, without judging it or its "relevance". This is a necessary precursor to intelligent discussion. If it's too tightly defined, the discussion becomes warped and ultimately irrelevant because it is going to exclude too much that could not be foreseen by the moderators.
Listening as I use AI to compensate for the sheer stupidity of GIMP and Photoshop. To do in seconds what these apps utterly refuse to do and indeed sabotage.
Then another AI (or several) to make a music video.
The democratisation is obvious but the removal of human stupidity is what should really frighten the plebs. What happens to human flourishing when the gatekeepers, the obstructors, the camp comandants are removed?
What happens to the balance of power when the freelancer I hired for 6 months can't screw me around anymore and thus derive his living from my misery and dependence.
What will we do with all the surplus idiots who run society by ruining it.
What happens to their fundamental model of Incompetocracy?
Whither the Gatekeepers?
We might all be in pods but Stephen Hawking will be in the adjacent pod and he will neither need nor care about you. He might even want revenge.
You think the Tech Oligarchs are a problem now? What about Exponential Merit?
Who cares what someone looks like. If I want to be a basketball player and I am white, I don't complain there are not enough white basketball players, or that I need to see someone who looks like me
.. geezuz
Fascinating, but we are not passing any Turing Test when you are getting along nicely and suddenly the machine baulks, "I am sorry Dave, I cannot provide that information"! Nor will we ever have a machine or any computing architecture which is indistinguishable from a human consciousness. (IMO, see Penrose/Gödel)
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The way she lowers her head and then looks her EYES up at the guy, while talking or explaining.... the body language readers people would have tons to say about what this means.
All of these AI generated content insf free!
They use lots of resources!
How can people be ok with this??
I’m old ,ph and iPad,so not tech savvy. I did enjoy watching, makes a person understand of what’s possible