Come Follow Me (Insights into Alma 36-38, July 20-26)
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As I re-read the Book of Mormon again, I feel so empowered by your words. This has been soooo awesome as you have shared so much wisdom shared from Alma’s counsels to his son. Deep Appreciation ♥️
I look forward each week to your lessons. You should know that this seemingly "small and simple" step I took to watch the first lesson you both teach from Come Follow Me has indeed deepened my understanding and love of the Book of Mormon. I thank you so much for your time and insights each week. How blessed I have been by your selfless sacrifice in helping me and countless others better understand this miraculous book and how it applies to our everyday lives. God bless you both.
Thank you Heidi for your time and enthusiasm!
While serving a mission for the Church in the late eighties I had a companion who told me an amazing story about how chiasmus converted him to the restored gospel of Jesus Christ. We were serving in the Canada, Montreal mission which was French speaking and he was from France. He was also a Jew. His father was a Rabbi and he had been in training to follow in his father’s footsteps, so his conversion to another faith resulted in his expulsion from all family ties. Considering the price he paid, I think his testimony bears significant weight.
He told me that he had spent three years in Jerusalem at the finest rabbinical schools learning to become a Rabbi. In the course of their studies he had read in depth the canonical books of all the major world religions. He was back home working in his father’s synagogue when two Mormon missionaries knocked on the door of the synagogue. During their conversation he was introduced to the Book of Mormon, so he saw this as a chance to really show these missionaries a thing or two. He asked to have a copy to read, with the intent to apply the critical analysis to it that he was taught to do with those “sacred” texts he studied at Rabbinical school in Jerusalem. Well, the more he read of the Book of Mormon, the more he became convinced it had to have been written by a Jew! The style of writing so closely mirrored ancient Hebrew literary styles. (Chiasmic pun :-) He then showed me several places were chiasmus was clearly used and how it was a regular theme throughout the book. It is interesting to think about how unique every conversion to the restored gospel is. The Spirit knows our hearts and what moves us, and something of this nature, the literary structure of the Book of Mormon that I would never even have noticed, was just the right incentive to get my companion’s attention in order for him to seriously consider the book. To think that God has accounted for all such possibilities in the coming forth of the Book of Mormon is just astounding!
What an awesome story!
Wow, gives you chills up and down your spine! I wonder how many Christians UNDERSTAND and know about this style of writing used anciently? If they did know, they might accept the Book of Mormon as scripture. Very interesting and good to know.
Thanks for sharing this! It was the icing on the cake for this lesson!
Wow!
THANK YOU for sharing this truly inspiring story!!
I remember hearing about this years ago probably from a talk. But I had forgotten. I literally long to hear these messages each week. My soul is being enlarged, I feel it, so it is real. Bless all of you at Come Follow Me. The mercy’s of the Lord are great. Tears of joy accompany this message.
Thank you for being part of this learning group, Laura!
I dont have anyone to do these scripture study with and so watching, listening to and studying with you has been very beneficial to giving me more insite into the scriptures then I would have had other wise doing it on my own. Thank you so much. In a time that we are unable to attend church I really need this in my life. My husband left me last march and so that has been a very hard blow in my life. These scripture study's seem to be just what I need to give me some stability in my spiritual growth at this time. Thank you.
Many blessings to you! Thank you for making time to share your tender story with us!
As someone who has had a huge change in my life because of "small and simple" things , I was so moved again by your beautiful lesson and testimony. Thank you for teaching me each week and increasing my testimony and trust in the Lord. I am so thankful I found your site to help me learn and understand the Book of Mormon for the first time in my life. Your weekly lessons are one of the "small and simple" things that assisting me in growing in the gospel after and 35 year absence. Thank you and my the Lord bless both of you and your families.
We love hearing stories like this! We love to know the difference that the gospel and the Book of Mormon have in people's lives!
Thanks for the lesson. I really appreciate the effort to share this with us. These chapters are great.
Glad you loved it!
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Thank you Dr. Griffin. I listen to your lesson each week several times. I love how you bring your lesson always centered on Christ and your testimony brings tears to my eyes.
You are appreciated!
Your lessons are my liahona. Thank you so much!
You are welcome!
As I look back on my conversion to the restored gospel, I am amazed at the simple and small things/means that were placed before me that lead to my conversion and baptism. A Joseph Smith pamphlet that was given to my sister-in-law (non-member) who happened to be staying the night with us, a weekend visit with my wife's grandmother (convert) who shared some basic tenets of belief she held regarding Joseph Smith, the 3 degrees of glory in Heaven, and the preexistence. Those and other small and simple things lead my wife and I to get baptized back in 1989 and we have never looked back since. What beautiful and amazing and merciful things Heavenly Father provides for His children.
Wow, what an awesome story!!
Thank you for blessing my life .
You are most welcome.
Wow! Thank you for this deeply inspiring insight!!
We sure appreciate you, Lana!
Jack Welch ROCK STAR!!!!!!! This guy...where would we be in 2020 without his pioneering work in church scholarship? I have seen multiple presentations by professors and instructors I admire and enjoy - Jack Welch enters the room, and these scholars, eminent and intelligent and entertaining presenters in their own right, are transformed by his presence. The rapport and obvious respect and adoration they have for this mentor and friend of theirs...it's precious to see, every time.
Jack is a scholar and a gentleman!
very sweet spirit to live the true gospel in our lives..to learn more wisdom
"Bridle all your passions" was an important part for me. I am a person who gets very passionate about my interests. It is partly due to ADHD, which I've always dealt with. But having this scripture in my head and heart can help keep me centered.
Great insights and perspective, thank you for sharing!
17:47 That illustration of Alma 36 is so amazing! I love the poetic nature of these scriptures, and how they enhance my study of these scriptures.
We agree!
As a 30+ year veteran CES teacher, I have never understood why a big deal was made about the poetic forms found in scripture, especially chiamus. I am so grateful for these two videos this week because of the comprehension I attained. I was even able to get additional insights into how this is the language of our God - even the Plan of Salvation is a chiasmus. Thank you so much for the hard work all of you do to bring this information to us.
Fabulous note, thank you!
Taylor and Tyler, I love ALL your lessons, but oh, Tyler, today I loved your knowledge, your tenderness, your love, your humility and your spirit in teaching about alma the Younger's words to Shiblon. Thank you with all my heart.
You are most welcome!
Thank you for another outstanding lesson. You add so much insight into the Book of Mormon. We look forward every week to your lessons.
Thank you Jeri for watching!
Jack Welch, a humble man, thank you!
And a great scholar.
@@taylorhalverson3052 thanks for your reply.
My wife and I had the opportunity to visit the Brush Museum about 12 years ago, before we went I emailed Brother Welch and asked was there anything he'd recomend seeing on our visit, he sent a comprehensive list of lds and temple related artifacts which we were very grateful to of seen!
Looking forward to your next lesson ☀️
Your lessons are amazing and have helped with the direction I needed to go for deeper study, even Isaiah! Thank you for your prep time and wish I could sit in your classrooms. My dad taught religion at BYU for 40 years and you teach a lot like my pa, he was voted professor the year. Thank you for brining be back to where I need to be.
Thanks for the kind words. What is your father's name?
Another wonderful lesson! I learn so much watching these. It is really making me examine how I study the Book of Mormon. Thank you both!
You are welcome!
I love being taught and learning from teachers so knowledgeable. There is nothing I love more than studying the Book Of Mormon. The opportunity of being taught by brother Welsh is a real blessing .
The very best in all you’ve put out! Thank you so very much! I will return to watch this one again! 💙
Thank you!
I was today years old when I found out about ‘Chiasmus’ so thank you for this powerful insight Brother Welch 😌 Another awesome video!
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We love these “Insights”...so grateful, they are inspiring, informative and thought provoking. I have taught about Chiasmus and John Welch for many years ....today we got to meet him. This was amazing! Thank you so much for it all!
Thanks for this encouraging note.
Thank you.
I read The Book of Mormon over & over again as so many members do & an greatful your Book of Mormon lessons are still here along with The Doctrine & Covenants lessons. Thank you again.
Thanks for explaining chiasmus and its significance regarding the BoM, what a nugget of knowledge!! We really appreciate all your teachings even the “small and simple things” 👍👍
You are welcome! BTW, did you know that the name Nephi may be a variant of your name Nefertari (and Nefertiti)? :)
This lesson was so special! Today, I have learned what it means to be wise. Thank you!
We sure do appreciate you!
I didn't just "liked" this lesson, I loved it. It opened my spiritual eyes to so many things. Yes, God does work in small and simple things. Heavenly Father knows me so well . . . He has directed me to do certain things that I would not have ever done. Similar to your job situation. Marrying my husband, joining the church, having children (my second child was, what I would consider, a miracle to an answer of a prayer), jobs, people that were brought into my life, the fact that I had cancer when I did, and so many other situations. Thank you for bringing this "small and simple" things to my mind. I have been truly blessed.
What a beautiful note, thank you!
Thank you again brethren! Excellent as usual! Brother Welsh, really has been an instrumental pioneer in discovering Chiasmus in the Book of Mormon. It is significant for the church, since it adds evidence that the Book of Mormon is true, and Joseph Smith could not have made up this ancient Hebrew form of poetry. I remember watching that wonderful video on how the revelation came to Brother Welsh, and how this discovery would be his "life's work" so humbling and inspiring. Thank you brethren and thank you Brother Welsh!
Thank you for this kind note!
I just always feel so blessed to hear your presentations on the Book of Mormon. Thank you so much for all the insights and thoughtful comments. You brethren are a great blessing to all of us.
Thank you Helen!
Thank you for bringing the scriptures to life and likening them to our day and time! You are a wonderful teacher.
We are pleased to know that these resources help you!
Thank you for another wonderful lesson?! I love Alma the Younger so much. I pray every single day for my wayward son to come back to the gospel. Last week’s lesson gave me so much hope because he has been taught and I know that tiny seed has been planted in his heart. Thanks for all you brothers do.
We love your faith and goodness!
Thank you for inviting br. Welsh and would like to thank him for his extensive presentation. For me, reading in chiasm is so much clearer because it excludes everything that the goal would miss if you read a part. Well, my dear prophet Joseph Smith could never have found this writing style by himself.
Yes, when our H.Father wants to protect you or to steer you in a certain direction, He clearly does that. That's how He put words in my mouth that I never thought I'd ever have to say this. My life then resolutely took a different turn because He had so decided
. I know He love me and us of cause!
Beautiful note, Julie.
I have seen that since I have really trusted in the Lord! I have given mire time to His scriptures. I actually love the the scriptures! Can't get enough! Thanks to listening to Come Follow Me! And Unshaken. Trying to get my oldest son! Not sure he is quite ready! God is in this He will help me! I have great faith!!! Thank you!!
This deepens my understanding. I always wait for your videos weekly. Keep helping us through technology. :)
We plan to!
@@taylorhalverson3052 and this improves our "Come Follow Me" program. That with your efforts.
I am so grateful to have been introduced to Jack Welch. What a humble giant of a man! Thank you, both.
A true scholar and a gentleman.
Powerful discussion on this specific Scripture Block. Wow, what a treat to hear Jack Welch discuss in detail Chiastic writing with Alma 36 as the backdrop. After hearing him in this broadcast, I went back and re-read Earl Wunderli's article on "Critique of Alma 36 as an extended Chiasm." For me, the SIGNIFICANT detail that Mr. Wunderli's critique missed was "The Message" of centering around Jesus Christ at the Turning Point or Crossing. Jack Welch emphasized this very well, especially in the podcast. One other point that MAY be relevant from Chapter 38 with Corianton, one of the First problems leading up to his immoral behavior was PRIDE. I think PRIDE is a denial of the FALL and the NEED for the ATONEMENT or our DEPENDENCY on CHRIST. Corianton and some of today's youth can realize that in vs.12, Satan is the King of Idleness, BUT he is NEVER Idle !! Thank you T&T Brothers.
You've nailed it Blake!
Thank you Tyler and Taylor, for all your hard work! Your lessons always bring me greater understanding and inspiration!
We love the gospel!
I love the way you describe small and simple things that bring about great things! Thanks so much!
Thanks for spending time with us!
Yet again, another wonderfully detailed lesson. You guys rock! Your videos give me those extra nuggets I didn’t see before. Gracias!!!
Thanks for watching!
This is so wonderful! Thank you for bringing the author of the discovery on the video!
You bet!
You guys are great. I first heard of the term "Chiasmus" on my mission from my Mission President in 2004 @Nigeria Enugu Mission. I did not even know the purpose of it till you guys elaborated on it. It is very clear to me now than before. Thanks, Taylor, Tyler, and Jack!
You are welcome Ronald!!
I totally enjoyed this lesson. The amount of small and simple things mentioned had a big impact in my mind and heart.
Thank you !
We sure appreciate your regularly engagement with these videos.
Both my wife and Ii sit here with tears streaming from our eyes. Thank you for opening them to greater wisdom and knowledge.
Beautiful to hear this, Robert!
I really appreciate your lessons. They seem to get better and better. Maybe it is my spirit is more open to receive. Thank you for having Jack Welch share his knowledge in this lesson.
We were excited to make this one!
Thank you for the wonderful lesson.
As always you are welcome!
awsome great message jack Welch
As we were watching this lesson today (July 19th) my wife noticed that Alma 37 verse 6 is Chiastic :)
Suppose foolishness in me
Small and simple things
Great things
Small things
Confound the wise
Awesome discovery!
I thank God for the work that you do. I benefit from it a lot!
Thank you Farrah!
All of this was awesome there so much I need to remember even though I have been born & raised in the covenenant. I love how Alma emphasized the small & little things which will lead to greater principals. I am grateful how Alma the Younger counseled Shiblon to bridle all his passions (exercise restraint) in all things) too frequently we can become overzealous in various things that are important to us & we need to moderate our enthusiasm so that we don't offend others.
Excellent insights!
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The Book of Mormon continues to be revealed as the word of God revealed for our day. Thank you for your efforts in presenting these lesson, these Gems for continuous study. Bless you all. ALMA 37:6
Yes thank
This was a very insightful lesson. Thank you for your commitment to teaching.
Thanks for the support!
Thank you 😊 so much for this. Much love to all.
That was a wonderful lesson. I like to carefully read the chapters before I listen to your thoughts and see what I found that you bring up. Thank you.
We love to see this type of learning!
Brother Welch mentions that if we humble ourselves, the Lord will make these things available (greater insight to the Book of Mormon) to help others, IF He can trust us (time mark 28:05). I have come to learn that Trust is one of the greatest purposes we have in mortality. Can Heavenly Father trust us enough to share with us the glory & power He possesses. Thank You for the great presentations, often very insightful, revealing ideas & truths I was not aware of!
Amen to this statement!
Guys.... one thing that I really feel the of the Spirit.... is as you close... bearing your testimonies..... just solidifies the power of the spirit on these doctrinal instruction.... Thank you for all you do💙💙💙💙💙
The scriptures and the love of God are amazing!
Thank you so much! My family and I watch every one of your videos and have been blessed! Thank you.
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After many years of reading and studying the articles of Jack Welch, I am thrilled to be able to listen to him teach about Chiasmus. Thanks so much!
Yes!
Thanks a lot for another powerful lesson. The first time I got to know about chiasmus was in my first area of my mission in Chbicago when a brother from our ward said that he read The Book of Mormon because of this special literary way that was used. I could understand it better today. Thanks again. Fantastic.
Agreed, amazing insights about chiasmus.
Learned so much. Thank you for taking the time to share your great knowledge and experiences with us.
Thank you for giving me insight to Chiasmus...I never heard that term used before and when studying the Come Follow Me and I saw that word in the lesson, I didn't know what it meant or why it was there. Now with you explaining this concept and as I reread Alma 36-38, it all makes sense. You have opened my eyes to more understanding and knowledge to the Book of Mormon. I am forever grateful.
You are most welcome, thank your for letting us know this helped increase your love and knowledge of the Book of Mormon
Thank you. I learn so much from your videos. Such a blessing.
And you are a blessing!
You guys are such a blessing in helping me with studying the Book of Mormon 🥰
We love the gospel!
I always heard people long ago talk to me about the but I always ignored it. After hearing this man talk of what he was given as a gift has made me read it (The Book of Mormon) even more intensely. Thank you so much. Peace
The Book of Mormon is a real gift!
We have watching your "Come Follow Me" presentations since we have been confined at home this year. We have greatly appreciated the insights you give in your discussions of the week's readings. In our study, we watch your video and some of the KnoWhy's, I read a section in the Book of Mormon in the Grant Hardy formatted of the Book of Mormon or the Scripture Plus version with its sections, my wife will then read commentary for her The Book of Mormon Study Guide, and then we will discuss what we have just read. A few weeks ago we found your John Welch's notes at Book of Mormon Central. I have loved his notes to give additional insights.
I loved your having John Welch there to talk about Chiasmus in Alma 36 and the Book of Mormon.
This past December, when I knew we were going to reading the Book of Mormon this year, we were at Deseret Book and I saw Grant Hardy's Maxwell Institute Study Edition of The Book of Mormon. I told my wife I need a copy of it. It had the things that I had been looking for in a format for the Book of Mormon for over 40 years. (Your Book of Mormon Central version has many of these same features,)
1. Written in paragraphs
2. Sections with section headings to let us know what we will be reading in the next section
3. The poetry formatted as prose
4. Original chapters as in the 1830 edition.
Additional things I wish it had:
1, All of the chiasmus formatted with indentations (Like you showed today.) (Can you do this with your electronic Book of Mormon Central edition?)
2. Printed on scripture paper with a nice binding.
Thanks for all you have been doing for us.
Find the chiasmus here from Donald Parry: scholarsarchive.byu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1060&context=mi. Free electronic download
THANK-YOU !! Another great lesson, that open's the mind to better understanding the Gospel !!! Keep up the great job that both of you do !!!
We'll use this as encouragement to continue forward!
I'm so grateful to have found your channel. Thank you for this lesson.
We are glad you found us!
The word repentence in German is ‘ turn around’ . Soo good. Thank you for these wonderful lessons & insights. As a busy mom of 4 small children, its a huge possibility for me to enjoydiving into the scriptures a bit deeper while doing my day to day tasks.
What a great insight! Thank you for sharing.
Never heard of Chiasmus til now, Thank you, Jack Welch, for taking you time to explaining Chiasmus good to know and also Thank you so much Tyler and Taylor brilliant teaching love it
Thanks Lola!
this amazing.
im a total ancients fanatic Hue Nibley is one of my first teachers and it reminds me of his type of material
:) glad you loved this.
I appreciate the diagramming of Chiasmus. I had learned about this maybe 20 years ago in a Gospel Doctrine class. The visual of the block is text, then highlighting the repeated words and assembling them in order, was visually stimulating.
Thanks for sharing!
We listen every week to your excellent insights. Thank you for another amazing lesson. So many great details for us to ponder on here in Potter County, PA.
Ah, I love the unexpected beauty of Pennsylvania. Did you know that US 6 passes by my house only a few miles from here? We almost live on the same road!
another amazing lesson, I am learning so much, and I will look and ponder the words in the book of Morman more closely, loved leaning about Chiasmus, Thank you so much.
That is the hope! Glad to see that these resources expand our understanding.
Brother Griffin, you probably don't remember me, but I remember you. I was one of your students at Box Elder High School, and I am SOOOOOO happy to have found this channel. It was in fact by something small and simple that my husband came across it, and I have enjoyed watching immensely. It's been pretty amazing to be able to be a "student" again and learn in a way that I haven't had the opportunity of learning in a long time. It gives me a different perspective and a better way of letting the spirit wash over me and teach me deeper and more profound gospel principles. Thank you so much, you and Taylor are amazing and I look forward to everything to come.
Thank you Priscilla. I just sent your note to Tyler to make sure he sees it!
I have been impressed with the memory of Alma and others in the Book of Mormon.
For example after hearing Abinadi, Alma writes down evidently from memory what Abinadi said. Alma then uses what he wrote to teach others.
It seems that since they had an oral tradition, part of the reason they organized their comunications as they did was to help people remember what you said.
The history of people in cultures like that were often past down orally from one generation to the next.
But it's also enfisized, in The Book of Mormon how important it was to have a written record.
I have wonder how well I would have done if I had had to write down every thing Abinadi had said, I'm glad it was Alma & not me, who was given that task.
Thank you for this wonderful lesson. I learn so much from your lessons. It was wonderful to learn from your guest today. I'm greatful for Book of Mormon Central. 💒
Dear brethern
You have wisdom and revelation!
The wisdom and revelation is in God and his word!
These three chapters are amongst my favourites from the entire Book of Mormon. I am reminded of my father's conversion story in 1961 here in Scotland. His many years of faithful service through a multitude of small and simple things. I'll never forget his regular, patient words of wisdom and counsel to me throughout my life - just like Alma to his sons. There is lots of powerful counsel in those chapters for all of us to live by today. Thanks again!
What a great story, Daryl!
Thank you! This lesson was so great!
Glad to hear this!
This message was very interesting! Thanks for having your guest.
Jack Welch is one of the great ones on the earth!
Masterful video. Really enjoyed it. Thanks
Thanks for letting us know!
Again thank you for this lesson, its my first time to hear about chiasmus, i hope i could learn more of it.
Lots of great resources here: chiasmusresources.org/
Hi, I'm brazilian and I've figured Tyler and Taylor in order to improve my English skills. But, just " small and simple thing" brought to pass so many blessings. I really feel the Spirit watching the videos and making notes from your insights. I shared it with my 16 years old daughter, and she started watching too.
It's been more than improve my skills in another language, It's enlarged my knowledge, my vision and strenghten my Faith and testimony in Jesus Christ and His Atonement. Thank you all!!!
muitas bênçãos para você por sua fé e esforços para aprender o evangelho e melhorar o inglês!
Loved it and learned so much
Thanks Jesse!
So wonderful, thank you!!!!
thanks for the encouragement!
Thank you for the great work. Week after week i am amazed at what the two of you bring too our ears. ZOT NOT ZOT and the Domino effect brilliant so informative.
This week still trying to understand Chiasmus and how one can see this in a writing but will listen again to the video to get better clarity.
here's a few more writings that might help: knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/knowhy/how-was-chiasmus-discovered-in-the-book-of-mormon; knowhy.bookofmormoncentral.org/knowhy/why-is-the-presence-of-chiasmus-in-the-book-of-mormon-significant
Thank you so much!
Yes!
Loved this!
Thanks!
Exceptional lesson! Loved that Professor Welch could join you for it.
He's the best!
once again and again i learn so much from your way of explaining thank you ever so much hope you be well and happy and healthy
Thank you!
I remember watching that seven part series through BYU called Messiah behold the Lamb of God, and brother Welch talked in that series of videos as well, and that subject of chiasmus came up in that as well, such a beautifully done series about the Savior as well as just awesome music!
Thanks for sharing this reminder!
Thank you, thank you, thank you
Tonight before watching this video, when I started my scripture reading had this impression, why am I reading the book of Mormon? The thought came to mind, I want to draw close to God, I want to learn truth.
Because I have this idea that I have to read it daily a check box to tick off. I'm missing the purpose and reason because the real need isn't internalized.
There is power in the Book of Mormon when our intent for reading it is internalized thus the natural approach is a serious study of it.
As Alma has said ye shall reap the rewards of your faith, and your diligence, and patience, and long-suffering through discovering the Lord through the Book of Mormon.
Thank you for sharing this heart-warming note!
As always! Wonderful lesson brothers i felt the spirit strong. Thank you! Shared your lessons in our page and group in the Philippines! God bless!
Thank you for watching! mahal natin ang ating mga kaibigan sa pilipinas
Inspiring words
Thanks!
Wow thanks for having Jack.
He's a real scholar and a gentleman and disciple.
Thank you, thank you for this lesson. I needed to hear this one because of things I am struggling with in my career. Not sure where Heavenly Father wants me to be. I love my job & I want to manage a Department someday but I feel like I am stuck. Thank you again.
The Lord knows and loves you!
Awesome!!!
Thanks!
Smack dab in the middle of the Book of Mormon (pages 265-266) is the answer to the geography question. The symmetry of the region's geography is evident there.
We did an internal map video related to those verses here: czcams.com/video/TO03zqrJrrY/video.html
33:00 I loved that story. Small maybe to others, but huge for your life.
Thanks Janet!