I don’t think people understand the relationship. They’ve always had this bickering. I think it was probably more apparent this weekend but Max literally said he wouldn’t want another race engineer one-two years ago.
I’ll simplify: Max good driver. Max want best car. Car not good for him, Max bitch and moan. Max win race. All forgiven. Even a Neanderthal could understand
It’s just natural. They’re passionate, serial winners in a high stress sport. A little friction during tense moments is healthy and it’s important they both feel they can speak candidly. If Max walked all over GP or vice versa, they wouldn’t find be able to extract the limits from the car. I appreciated Max’s fire to want to do better in one of the few stumbles during this season, and also GPs retort challenging him. Basically lets Max know there was no better option, they got what they needed, and to get on with the rest. Most balls on an engineer I’ve seen since Kimi was yelled out to “get the fuck out of the way” for Grosjean lol
They've shared everything since Max came to Red Bull, they both have 45 wins. Every race Max has won, GP has been on the radio, every race GP has won, Max was driving the car. I bet GP gets a new Tag Heuer for Christmas, courtesy of Max.
@@matthewsmcdillThis. Being an avid and passionate mechanical watch collector for 30 plus years, I'm pretty sure Max can afford a real watch for GP after every pole and race win. A vintage Heuer pre-80s TAG acquisition proper Monaco would be great. Let's just say that TAG-Heuer is sinonimous with "more money than taste" for the past two decades. I feel truly sorry for the teams sponsored by Richard Miller and B&R. Those are far away any chance of redemption since their inception.
@@matthewsmcdill Yea, I suppose. IWC is an "entry-level" brand of the Richemont Group but they're considered a classic house of Swiss haute-horlogerie and a proper high-end luxury brand (nowhere near Vacheron, though). Tag Heuer is positioned as a very cheap luxury brand inside LVMH group, it uses of the shelf calibers and they're light years apart both in price and target audience. Tag Heuer is a classic house with literally Instagram branding now. That's why their reputation, designs, reliability and craftsmanship went down the drain in the past couple of decades. RM and B&R are meme watches through and through; you can smell "Instagram influencer" money kilometers away from anyone wearing them because their designs are tacky and gaudy as they can be. But they're more than happy to sell their time pieces for haute-horlogerie money.
GP is like a stern uncle that loves his nephew very much. He lets his talent flourish, but has no problem being a firm hand when Max starts to let his temper steer him off the the course. I personally love hearing someone humble Max, and in turn hearing Max recognize that GP does indeed know what’s best for him.
British people I think don’t fully comprehend how Dutch and Italian people communicate. Temperamental for the Italians and very direct for the Dutch, combine that and this is what you get.
Not only that, but we also don't know how much they generally shit talk each other day to day. Some relationships are like that, they seem chaotic as hell from the outside, but are completely healthy and respectful in their own way.
er..............i think you have the worng my friend. Max is extremely temperamental, always whining on the radio. GP is as British as they come. British engineers have the reputation of being direct and precise.
@@soundscape26 except his family is Italian. Where’d you think that name came from. My mom was dutch with Italian family, those roots are present regardless wherever you were raised.
It is so funny how reactions from Crofty and Martin decide the headlines for next few weeks. Max always had a relationship like this with GP and they are a really good team. It is common knowledge for any F1 fan that has been watching for more than a year. And I know for a fact Crofty and Martin know it too. There was no reason to make such a big fuss about it but I guess anything to make drama.
This will be the entire plot of drive to survive. I can see Buxton now: "Everyone's thinking it: if Max won't race without GP..😟... And GP hates Max..😧This very well COULD..😮 be..Max's last season..in F1...😳"
They do act like an old married couple, but one that will never break off. There's a reason why max has said that if GP quit, he will too. There's a level of mutual respect and understanding between them both.
Funny how this is only an issue in the UK, no other country is talking about it, most people saw it for what it was, but the UK has an issue with Max for some reason - wonder why 🙄🙄🙄 If you have an issue with this, you'd have hated how Senna used to talk to the team, and he's classed as the best F1 driver ever.
In fairness.... there wasn't really a whole lot of other drama outside of Alpine upstairs nonsense. They love to find any excuse to stir up drama. Lewis had massively falling outs with Toto and Bono multiple times over the years according to the UK media. UK media thrives on drama and if there isn't much, they will make a drama out of something to shift papers (or well, now a days its views). The bigger the name of the driver, the better.
Too much is being made of this.... this is the broadcast unit doing a "Drive to Survive" special episode. And, it's working... look at how much coverage this is getting.... hook - line - sinker.
I played American football for a while and this back and forth just seems normal to me and to most anyone who has ever played a high tension sport. Because of the nature of what is going on all conversations are clipped, direct, and there is no time to ever consider anyone's "feelings".
This is just how they work. They have good mutual understanding. They are both very straightforward. This is way more effective than "we're checking". GP is the perfect race engineer for Max.
I do think a lot of people forget that F1 broadcasting only lets us hear radio messages that spice up the content of F1. Nobody wants to hear what Bottas is arguing about when it is not for a race win. Btw, I definitely want to hear more from other drivers talking about race strategy or whatever. But content-wise, this is not interesting for most people. Btw btw, Bottas was just a random example. No hate to any driver. This is not an insta rage comment 😇
Funny thing is, in 2021 when it was clear that Mercedes had thrown Bottas under a bus WAY before he was out of the championship, we heard Bottas giving the team his thoughts, and they weren't good ones. Such as in the French GP, where he pointed out his strategy wouldn't work and was ignored, until he finally snapped and yelled "ISN'T ANYONE FUCKING LISTENING TO ME?" Just remembering the glory of Radio Bottas as you mentioned him lol
@@MrSniperfox29I still think how they threw away a 1-2 there and ended up with a 2-4. They didn't listen to bottas, they were literally stuck to the back of max for 10 laps after he had undercut Hamilton That could have been the difference , that mercedes was working better there Shocking they didn't listen to him at all, instead trying to use him as a rear gunner on old hards 😂😂😂
@@MrSniperfox29 and that's precisely why Valtteri never got (close to) a WDC: he's too nice of a guy and too much of a team player. Even in races where they had no threat from behind, Valtteri was still asked by James to let Lewis by, and did so without question. I certainly would not have done so in his position. If Lewis wanted by, he'd have to try and get by the hard way.
@@halofreak1990all you said has nothing to do with Bottas not a champion yet lmao, the reason for that is simple, Bottas isn't as "good" as some drivers on the grid (remember last season where a "paydriver" rookie could beat him in qualifying and in race?) and Bottas really never had a chance to fight for the title.
@@halofreak1990 please list the races James asked Bottas to move over? merc never pitted bottas while in a point scoring position just so he could take a faster lap point off a rival but end up with no points himself. you know who did do that? RB with perez. bottas also could the exact same car as lewis every race every race unlike perez.
I really cant believe this is even a story, they have a rapport with each other. Why isn't this about charles and Xavi? considering how many times he and the rest of the Ferrari pit wall have screwed him over the years
Max and Checo were told to lift and coast at certain places at the circuit , to prevent too much plank wear, which cost them lap time ,so Max was just asking if checo was doing the same.
There's no way this isn't how they talk to each other all the time, you always give your best mates the most stick. But the way they play radio messages on the broadcast certainly plays into a narrative a lot of the time.
This isn’t a new thing. Vettel and his engineer did it, so did Hamilton, Schumacher and so on. It’s two people within a team pushing as hard as they can to achieve the very best. Neither will take anything personally and it’s not even controversial.
I think people miss that we're only seeing 1% of the actual interactions drivers and engineers have. The other 99% is in meetings, testing, etc. where they spend hundreds of hours together per season. There's only 50 hours hours or so of actual racing per season. When you're comfortable with someone and you know they're not actually mad at you, you can be honest and say "this is bad" or "wtf are we doing here?". When Gasly was at Alpha Tauri, he and his engineer (also named Pierre) had a great relationship as well.
@@stephen9894 the writing team is clearly from a news website where they repeat themselves(just cleverly reword it) for the first third of the page to make you scroll to see more ads. The video could have been half the length and we would have still got all the info they talked about. I just got bored of the repetition, wrote my comment and switched off the video
People are hating quite literally on the methods that have worked for him. He's about to become a 3x WDC! The results speak for themselves, his most dominant season. You just can't handle Verstapppen seeing success! 💪
its Rbs success more than max. anyone most drivers would win a world championship in this car. the fact he got beat twice by perez this year shows he is vulnerable.
@@ddha0000No one can win like Max is doing right now. The only reason Perez won in Saudi because Max started P15 because of car problems in quali and he lost out to Perez in Baku because of an untimely safety car.
Max operates at his best when in open conflict: meaning getting your frustrations out immediately and quickly moving on. And not letting emotions from the past hinder your progress. Jos thought him that. It's part of the reason why Max is mentally so strong. He just focuses on the here and now and keeps his head clear of any looming frustrations.
@@soundscape26 Think of Jos whatever you want (although much of the internet talk against him is exaggerated, in a recent Viaplay documentary he was actually very open about the mistakes he made and spending a night in jail), but there's no denying that he did a lot to prepare Max mentally for F1. Plenty of interviews and documentaries out there (also with Max) that support this.
a man can only learn from his mistakes and Jos did right that and teaches Max not to make the same mistake. And on top of that he has a great part from his mom what makes him in reality one of the sweetest persons out there
I'll be honest I love and appreciate GP's approach to handling Max's attitude. His sarcasm lol is just wonderful! I want to get GP's autograph so badly!
@mattt525 I actually love Max's attitude to handle GP as well. They are a two way team. Playfull and yet the best in F1! They both are elite and respect each other in ways you or me will never understand. It's not just GP deserving credit handling that arrogant 'Max s attitude' like you suggest. Let me guess: you are British? I suggest you take a closer look at the personality of a lesser driver like Hamilton. You will be surprised how much more arrogant and out of sinc with reality that clown is.
Just a bit of banter. GP is the secret ingredient to Max's success. He knows how to cut through the frustration to extract Max's full potential. It's like Bono and Lewis or Smedley and Massa. Different styles of communication, of course, but behind every amazing driver is an equally amazing engineer.
This two are by far the best coupled team [ Pilot/Race Engineer ] in F1. They talk continuously just for improve/optimize the performance trough the fine detail in the whole race. And @THERACE Chanel deliver a very well balanced approach in this very enjoyable post.For Max was 50% joke and 50% serious. And when some was trying to dig deep bewtweeen the meaning of this interaction, Max said : This is a private matter within the team. He is know growing as a person. Only 25 years old who don’t care about records. Only in race perfection.
They’re really good together, GP is a big part of why Verstappen is thriving as he is. Bono showed his skill when Russell had to jump in at Sakhir and get up to speed and comfortable fast, I’m sure GP could do a similarly great job if the need arose
Why do you even bother to have a podcast, they discussed this earlier on and Mark Hughes said it's not bickering, and I agree, it's not, but here we are, discussing this non issue again, just to draw in people to watch your channel.... please don't turn into a clickbait channel, there's enough of that nonsense on CZcams...
My impression is that Toto is actually the only “higher voice” that steps in from time to time. I guess it is mainly because Lewis has a different relationship with Bonno, they seem to be less on equal terms.
@@ddha0000 If GP would prefer a more mature driver he could have switched to Checo of course, he has even been his race engineer before! But I guess he prefers a little bit more to be part of a winning team. I’d say friends would be able to tell each other the truth and they would not need father Toto to intervene.
Good report. I personally believe that any driver without this type of fire in their belly should no be racing as a professional driver. I like the fire and the passion. And as long as it does not result in animosity, it’s very healthy and necessary
the red bull domination is frustrating, but u can only admire how well oiled their operation is. gp is top class and perfectly suited to someone like max
As Horner says, they’re like an old married couple with even max saying he will quit racing if GP leaves. If you want a true entertainer, do a video on Charles and xavi 😂
Decisiveness vs Indecisiveness RB Engineers: Understood, but we do not think it is necessary at the moment Vs Ferrari: Copy, we are checking, what do you think is the best strategy right now, question?
RB and Max are just on a high that is rarely seen in F1 both from a purely superior machinery/driver combination to driver and personnel combination. RB really just has the whole package right now and I don't see this era's domination going anywhere till the new 2026 regs are introduced and so much is uncertain across the whole field. More is being made of these radio messages than what's really there and I wouldn't classify it as bickering. Like it was said, these two have a long history and there relationship is very much established and just like two good longtime friends or even a marriage, arguments over the smallest of things will happen but if the foundation of the relationship is strong, as it clearly is here, it's not going to lead to anything serious and will be forgotten about quickly.
Yeah. I agree with the combination part. I used to support Lewis/Nico/Merc and later Lewis/Bottas/Merc and the main thing I like watching them is that Mercedes as a whole, rarely make slip ups. They were like clockwork. And they are very consistent. But only as a team. Lewis, for the most part was consistent, and was the most consistent he had ever been his whole career but on a bad day, he could let high tensions bring him out of rhythm. Bottas was quick but not consistent at all. But Max/GP/RB18 and RB as a combination are ruthlessly a different kind of consistent. It is partly the RB18 that Max is so dominant but to deny that Max is consistently fast even on his worse day. And can we really point out a bad day for him since its close to his good day as well? Its one thing being quick over one lap, its another being quick and quicker consistent over the entire race, and that's what Verstappen is in the RB18 (as GP said the metrics are massively under control). Like a Ferrari is a good qualifier car but the RB18 and W14 are better in race trim.
I think this manner of friendly bickering is simply the best way to deal with Max. If you tell him to shut up and get on with it, it will only piss him off. If you give him too much freedom, he'll start feeling too dominant within the team. But these kind of sarcastic comments, subtly reminding him it's a team game and he doesn't know everything, it helps balance the situation by telling Max off without making him angry about it. Max even responded in kind later, when he was asked about the weather situation and said 'well i cant see the radars can i'.
Anyone who questions the way they talk to each other has never worked side by side with someone you call a real friend. You don't take anything personal. You come back with a nasty reply and move on.
me and one of my best friends will yell at each other when we’re being a dumbass, we’re like a manager and an umpire, then laughing again two minutes later
The “use your head” quote was likely referring to lifting through Eau Rouge due to lower ride heights. They unexplainable my gave up about a half second over the straight because they lifted there in later stints. Checo did it the whole race while max was asked to do it to keep the skids fresh enough to be legal during his second stint.
The "use your head" was referring to the fact both cars had instructions to lift through turn 2 and 3, hence the question if Checo was doin it to. The data shows both cars were losing 0,5secs a lap through those corners and the long straight to the rest of the field due to lifting.
The 'Use your head' command from GP to Max isn't to do with tyre choice, but whether or not both cars were lifting through Eau Rouge. Take a look at the telemetry data. Not too sure about the reasons why First stint, Checo was lifting but Max wasn't. Middle stint, Max starts to lift off potentially after the 'Use your head' command from GP Worth looking into! RBs probably had even more pace in them !
British biased media making a story out of everything huh? Max literally said that if GP retires, he retires aswell. They have a beautiful relationship and are the best duo since Brawn and Schumacher.
Its every race. They only used it in spa in the livestream for you to make a story. Listen more often to teamradios without the director feeding them to you.
The conversation about both cars doing it is most likely about their huge lift off at eu rouge that was costing them 5 tenths of a second. Most likely to save the plank underneath. Brrrrake f1 posted a great video about this
i know is minimal but why giving incorrect quotes when max Engineer said " Slowly getting used max" and not "i'm just about getting used to it?, why change the actual radio message........
I feel like people are drumming up the issue especially after that whole controversy involving Max and Checo in Brazil even though both cases are different. Max has only ever been Checo's teammate since 2021 while GP has been with Max from the start. Even from there it is easy to tell that it will take a lot more than just radio messages to break a relationship.
Personally I have to say it´s funny people only now slowly start to notice how these two handle each other. It´s been like this for years and *no* it´s not all fun and games. GP is a solid Engineer and personality and possibly one of the few engineers on the grid that would actually work with Verstappen, further yet he actually adds to the equation because he isn´t scared to even tell Max he ''was'' being childish back in the really early days. And even under current conditions where Max is breaking records GP talks back to Max. A dynamic we don't always see in a winning combo of driver + engineer. Though to be honest Max still does his own thing regardless.
Yeah, it's pretty obvious he's telling Max that he doesn't wanna say it on the radio and Max should just guess what it is cause he would probably know...
Bearing their super solid relationship in mind, I think they're just giving a show to entertain the audience and get into the other teams heads (and Checo's) Sure some are code, but mostly a show IMO.
I remember a conversation during a race in which Max Verstappen doubted a team order from GP. Gianpiero Lambiase: "Max, if you have all the information we have here at the pit wall, then tell us what we should do now". Max fell silent and carried out the orders... 😃 These two are a match made in heaven. No wonder GP appeared two times beside Max on the podium this year.
Don't be sensationalist guys. There is truly nothing to see here. If you want something interesting to talk about, figure out why Checo and Max where both lifting in Eau Rouge!
I personally believe, Max wouldn't be as mature as he currently is without Lambiase's calm, cold and solid radios, this dude is ice cold, he doesn't crumble underneath the weight of a World Champion's ego.
I didn't knew we needed a video to understand that their banter on team radio was nothing but a well understood and developed relationship...Why do u people have to blow it up like something is bad or out of ordinary! Didn't see you guys making a video when Toto asked lewis to shut up and drive the car... I guess Max name in video title gets more views that SIR LH does...😂😂
Pretty sure it was all about managing the car because of a compromised setup. GP was looking at the bigger picture, meanwhile, Vers was too concerned with going fast.
blowing off racing steam between 2 guys that seemingly can needle each other hard, deliver brutally and still be cool with each other . Sounds like a damn nice work-relationship :)
Can we have an actually interesting video about something like Leclerc and Xavi? That would be an actually interesting breakdown. Xavi is insanely incompetent and it really feels like Leclerc is starting to have enough. A video like this is a nothing burger as Max and GP clearly don't have anything between them. They just got a bit heated.
they’ve always been like this. it’s just that we don’t get shown it much same as why people say ‘lewis moans too much’ when actually it’s ‘f1 show us lewis moaning more than anyone else’ max is getting the same treatment sadly
y'all need to watch brrrakef1's video on RB sandbagging (spoiler: that's a clickbait title, it's good info) about the "use your head" and "are both drivers doing it" bit. They're talking about the lift in Eau Rouge probably to limit skid plate wear due to setup issues caused by wet weather tires. Checo was doing it, Max wasn't, GP asked Max to do it, Max asked if both were, then starts doing it.
Max Verstappen and GP are amazing to watch in a weekend anyone who says we can work with Max Verstappen I will tell you must be joking only GP can do it😊
Hmm. I wonder if you’ve listened to Brrrake’s analysis of the Spa GP runs of the Red Bulls. Enlightening, to say the least - especially on the build-up of the lap times.
We get such a tiny fraction of what is no doubt almost continuous communication between drivers and their race engineers - who's to say they aren't like this every race weekend?
It's probably just that we're hearing it more now that there's less competition. Remember when they played everything it was all the team principles etc. Even this year toto got on Lewis etc.
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is this going to be another meaningless how do we put max away negative again story from your filthy toxic british press .
I don’t think people understand the relationship. They’ve always had this bickering. I think it was probably more apparent this weekend but Max literally said he wouldn’t want another race engineer one-two years ago.
Exactly, in addition, the conversations between the 2 have been broadcasted a bit more than usual this weekend
yeah that and Max is probably bored out of his skull by now. raceday might as well be FP4 for him
If GP stepped down or retired Max would.
Here at the race you find the worst drama writers
I’ll simplify:
Max good driver. Max want best car. Car not good for him, Max bitch and moan. Max win race. All forgiven.
Even a Neanderthal could understand
It’s just natural. They’re passionate, serial winners in a high stress sport. A little friction during tense moments is healthy and it’s important they both feel they can speak candidly. If Max walked all over GP or vice versa, they wouldn’t find be able to extract the limits from the car. I appreciated Max’s fire to want to do better in one of the few stumbles during this season, and also GPs retort challenging him. Basically lets Max know there was no better option, they got what they needed, and to get on with the rest. Most balls on an engineer I’ve seen since Kimi was yelled out to “get the fuck out of the way” for Grosjean lol
They've shared everything since Max came to Red Bull, they both have 45 wins. Every race Max has won, GP has been on the radio, every race GP has won, Max was driving the car. I bet GP gets a new Tag Heuer for Christmas, courtesy of Max.
What a shit watch tag heuer is haha
Tag gives those things away. Maybe he'll give him one of the watch brands he wears when he's not decked out in sponsor shit.
@@matthewsmcdillThis. Being an avid and passionate mechanical watch collector for 30 plus years, I'm pretty sure Max can afford a real watch for GP after every pole and race win. A vintage Heuer pre-80s TAG acquisition proper Monaco would be great. Let's just say that TAG-Heuer is sinonimous with "more money than taste" for the past two decades. I feel truly sorry for the teams sponsored by Richard Miller and B&R. Those are far away any chance of redemption since their inception.
@@CapaNoisyCapa yeah, I suppose merc with IWC is the best team from a watch standpoint.
@@matthewsmcdill Yea, I suppose. IWC is an "entry-level" brand of the Richemont Group but they're considered a classic house of Swiss haute-horlogerie and a proper high-end luxury brand (nowhere near Vacheron, though). Tag Heuer is positioned as a very cheap luxury brand inside LVMH group, it uses of the shelf calibers and they're light years apart both in price and target audience. Tag Heuer is a classic house with literally Instagram branding now. That's why their reputation, designs, reliability and craftsmanship went down the drain in the past couple of decades. RM and B&R are meme watches through and through; you can smell "Instagram influencer" money kilometers away from anyone wearing them because their designs are tacky and gaudy as they can be. But they're more than happy to sell their time pieces for haute-horlogerie money.
GP is like a stern uncle that loves his nephew very much. He lets his talent flourish, but has no problem being a firm hand when Max starts to let his temper steer him off the the course. I personally love hearing someone humble Max, and in turn hearing Max recognize that GP does indeed know what’s best for him.
British people I think don’t fully comprehend how Dutch and Italian people communicate. Temperamental for the Italians and very direct for the Dutch, combine that and this is what you get.
Hell, GP is half English and he doesn’t mind. It’s just the media, trying to make something out of a nothingburger.
Not only that, but we also don't know how much they generally shit talk each other day to day.
Some relationships are like that, they seem chaotic as hell from the outside, but are completely healthy and respectful in their own way.
er..............i think you have the worng my friend. Max is extremely temperamental, always whining on the radio. GP is as British as they come. British engineers have the reputation of being direct and precise.
Lambiase is British though.
@@soundscape26 except his family is Italian. Where’d you think that name came from. My mom was dutch with Italian family, those roots are present regardless wherever you were raised.
It is so funny how reactions from Crofty and Martin decide the headlines for next few weeks. Max always had a relationship like this with GP and they are a really good team. It is common knowledge for any F1 fan that has been watching for more than a year. And I know for a fact Crofty and Martin know it too. There was no reason to make such a big fuss about it but I guess anything to make drama.
Crofty is such a S stirrer i quit listening to them i like palmer Alex but i do miss the elder brundle
crofty literally goes on in a podcast on skyf1 about how it's normal for them after the race lol, he's just making better action for TV, it's his job
Err..it's their job to commentate that race, don't blame them.
Blame sensational F1 CZcamsrs that keep blowing this out of proportion.
@@captaintoyota3171hmm? I didn’t notice anything odd about Crofty’s commentary on the RBR sound bites.
This will be the entire plot of drive to survive. I can see Buxton now: "Everyone's thinking it: if Max won't race without GP..😟... And GP hates Max..😧This very well COULD..😮 be..Max's last season..in F1...😳"
They do act like an old married couple, but one that will never break off. There's a reason why max has said that if GP quit, he will too.
There's a level of mutual respect and understanding between them both.
so is max GPs bitch or the other way round?
Funny how this is only an issue in the UK, no other country is talking about it, most people saw it for what it was, but the UK has an issue with Max for some reason - wonder why 🙄🙄🙄
If you have an issue with this, you'd have hated how Senna used to talk to the team, and he's classed as the best F1 driver ever.
They gotta find something. Waiting for a video on his puma shoes next
In fairness.... there wasn't really a whole lot of other drama outside of Alpine upstairs nonsense. They love to find any excuse to stir up drama. Lewis had massively falling outs with Toto and Bono multiple times over the years according to the UK media. UK media thrives on drama and if there isn't much, they will make a drama out of something to shift papers (or well, now a days its views). The bigger the name of the driver, the better.
its incredible you know what ever single country is talking about
How many countries did you check? In any case this is just fluff, even this video gives it a very relative importance.
@@user-vz5kh6qm7hMax's golden boots are a lucky charm
Too much is being made of this.... this is the broadcast unit doing a "Drive to Survive" special episode. And, it's working... look at how much coverage this is getting.... hook - line - sinker.
I love the way these two talk to each other. You can tell it’s from a position of closeness
I played American football for a while and this back and forth just seems normal to me and to most anyone who has ever played a high tension sport. Because of the nature of what is going on all conversations are clipped, direct, and there is no time to ever consider anyone's "feelings".
That's how the Dutch communicate standard. Combined with the situation you discribe this is normal.
It's called effective communication, not rocket science.
This is just how they work. They have good mutual understanding. They are both very straightforward. This is way more effective than "we're checking". GP is the perfect race engineer for Max.
I do think a lot of people forget that F1 broadcasting only lets us hear radio messages that spice up the content of F1. Nobody wants to hear what Bottas is arguing about when it is not for a race win.
Btw, I definitely want to hear more from other drivers talking about race strategy or whatever. But content-wise, this is not interesting for most people.
Btw btw, Bottas was just a random example. No hate to any driver. This is not an insta rage comment 😇
Funny thing is, in 2021 when it was clear that Mercedes had thrown Bottas under a bus WAY before he was out of the championship, we heard Bottas giving the team his thoughts, and they weren't good ones.
Such as in the French GP, where he pointed out his strategy wouldn't work and was ignored, until he finally snapped and yelled "ISN'T ANYONE FUCKING LISTENING TO ME?"
Just remembering the glory of Radio Bottas as you mentioned him lol
@@MrSniperfox29I still think how they threw away a 1-2 there and ended up with a 2-4.
They didn't listen to bottas, they were literally stuck to the back of max for 10 laps after he had undercut Hamilton
That could have been the difference , that mercedes was working better there
Shocking they didn't listen to him at all, instead trying to use him as a rear gunner on old hards 😂😂😂
@@MrSniperfox29 and that's precisely why Valtteri never got (close to) a WDC: he's too nice of a guy and too much of a team player. Even in races where they had no threat from behind, Valtteri was still asked by James to let Lewis by, and did so without question. I certainly would not have done so in his position. If Lewis wanted by, he'd have to try and get by the hard way.
@@halofreak1990all you said has nothing to do with Bottas not a champion yet lmao, the reason for that is simple, Bottas isn't as "good" as some drivers on the grid (remember last season where a "paydriver" rookie could beat him in qualifying and in race?) and Bottas really never had a chance to fight for the title.
@@halofreak1990 please list the races James asked Bottas to move over? merc never pitted bottas while in a point scoring position just so he could take a faster lap point off a rival but end up with no points himself. you know who did do that? RB with perez. bottas also could the exact same car as lewis every race every race unlike perez.
I really cant believe this is even a story, they have a rapport with each other. Why isn't this about charles and Xavi? considering how many times he and the rest of the Ferrari pit wall have screwed him over the years
Max and Checo were told to lift and coast at certain places at the circuit , to prevent too much plank wear, which cost them lap time ,so Max was just asking if checo was doing the same.
There's no way this isn't how they talk to each other all the time, you always give your best mates the most stick. But the way they play radio messages on the broadcast certainly plays into a narrative a lot of the time.
This isn’t a new thing. Vettel and his engineer did it, so did Hamilton, Schumacher and so on. It’s two people within a team pushing as hard as they can to achieve the very best. Neither will take anything personally and it’s not even controversial.
I think people miss that we're only seeing 1% of the actual interactions drivers and engineers have. The other 99% is in meetings, testing, etc. where they spend hundreds of hours together per season. There's only 50 hours hours or so of actual racing per season. When you're comfortable with someone and you know they're not actually mad at you, you can be honest and say "this is bad" or "wtf are we doing here?". When Gasly was at Alpha Tauri, he and his engineer (also named Pierre) had a great relationship as well.
Being a UK based channel I thought you lot would understand banter
Being someone who watches videos I'd have thought you'd watch the whole thing before commenting.
They're clearly aware it's not actually bickering.
@@stephen9894 the writing team is clearly from a news website where they repeat themselves(just cleverly reword it) for the first third of the page to make you scroll to see more ads. The video could have been half the length and we would have still got all the info they talked about. I just got bored of the repetition, wrote my comment and switched off the video
People are hating quite literally on the methods that have worked for him. He's about to become a 3x WDC! The results speak for themselves, his most dominant season. You just can't handle Verstapppen seeing success! 💪
its Rbs success more than max. anyone most drivers would win a world championship in this car. the fact he got beat twice by perez this year shows he is vulnerable.
@@ddha0000No one can win like Max is doing right now. The only reason Perez won in Saudi because Max started P15 because of car problems in quali and he lost out to Perez in Baku because of an untimely safety car.
@@charleswilfred6463 Chill, he is trolling or has an IQ of 65.
@@ddha0000don t talk sence in fanboys it doesn t work
Unbelievable what the media is turning this into 😂
Only certain media, you know the ones ....
The video is fairly balanced.
Horner: he's building a gap, he wants to pit
GP: nah boy's not pushing he's just hella fast
Max operates at his best when in open conflict: meaning getting your frustrations out immediately and quickly moving on. And not letting emotions from the past hinder your progress. Jos thought him that. It's part of the reason why Max is mentally so strong. He just focuses on the here and now and keeps his head clear of any looming frustrations.
You give too much credit to Jos. The man has a past filled with questionable behaviour and some encounters with justice.
@@soundscape26 Think of Jos whatever you want (although much of the internet talk against him is exaggerated, in a recent Viaplay documentary he was actually very open about the mistakes he made and spending a night in jail), but there's no denying that he did a lot to prepare Max mentally for F1. Plenty of interviews and documentaries out there (also with Max) that support this.
a man can only learn from his mistakes and Jos did right that and teaches Max not to make the same mistake. And on top of that he has a great part from his mom what makes him in reality one of the sweetest persons out there
Remember guys if u ever feel useless, think about all the people who are discussing this :)
but still you and your 8 likes came here to watch and read all the comments🤦♀
I'll be honest I love and appreciate GP's approach to handling Max's attitude. His sarcasm lol is just wonderful! I want to get GP's autograph so badly!
@mattt525 I actually love Max's attitude to handle GP as well. They are a two way team. Playfull and yet the best in F1! They both are elite and respect each other in ways you or me will never understand. It's not just GP deserving credit handling that arrogant 'Max s attitude' like you suggest. Let me guess: you are British? I suggest you take a closer look at the personality of a lesser driver like Hamilton. You will be surprised how much more arrogant and out of sinc with reality that clown is.
So they argue, max says sorry, then GP asks his driver to trust him… white hot indeed.
Are you running out of interesting topics?
Just a bit of banter. GP is the secret ingredient to Max's success. He knows how to cut through the frustration to extract Max's full potential. It's like Bono and Lewis or Smedley and Massa. Different styles of communication, of course, but behind every amazing driver is an equally amazing engineer.
It was 'slowly getting used to it'. Max and GP have a strong bond. I don't think any bitching and banters will crack it.
This two are by far the best coupled team [ Pilot/Race Engineer ] in F1. They talk continuously just for improve/optimize the performance trough the fine detail in the whole race. And @THERACE Chanel deliver a very well balanced approach in this very enjoyable post.For Max was 50% joke and 50% serious. And when some was trying to dig deep bewtweeen the meaning of this interaction, Max said : This is a private matter within the team. He is know growing as a person. Only 25 years old who don’t care about records. Only in race perfection.
They’re really good together, GP is a big part of why Verstappen is thriving as he is.
Bono showed his skill when Russell had to jump in at Sakhir and get up to speed and comfortable fast, I’m sure GP could do a similarly great job if the need arose
Why do you even bother to have a podcast, they discussed this earlier on and Mark Hughes said it's not bickering, and I agree, it's not, but here we are, discussing this non issue again, just to draw in people to watch your channel.... please don't turn into a clickbait channel, there's enough of that nonsense on CZcams...
My impression is that Toto is actually the only “higher voice” that steps in from time to time. I guess it is mainly because Lewis has a different relationship with Bonno, they seem to be less on equal terms.
Yeah Lewis ranks higher that GP
Yup that’s why Toto had to tell George and Lewis to calm the F down
Lewis and Bono are friends. GP doesn't really like max that much, its a professional relationship. i think GP would prefer a more mature driver.
GP and Max go on holidays together, lol
@@ddha0000 If GP would prefer a more mature driver he could have switched to Checo of course, he has even been his race engineer before! But I guess he prefers a little bit more to be part of a winning team.
I’d say friends would be able to tell each other the truth and they would not need father Toto to intervene.
Good report. I personally believe that any driver without this type of fire in their belly should no be racing as a professional driver. I like the fire and the passion. And as long as it does not result in animosity, it’s very healthy and necessary
Wow. Perfected the fine art of making an article out of literally nothing. Well done.
the red bull domination is frustrating, but u can only admire how well oiled their operation is. gp is top class and perfectly suited to someone like max
As Horner says, they’re like an old married couple with even max saying he will quit racing if GP leaves. If you want a true entertainer, do a video on Charles and xavi 😂
Decisiveness vs Indecisiveness
RB Engineers: Understood, but we do not think it is necessary at the moment
Vs
Ferrari: Copy, we are checking, what do you think is the best strategy right now, question?
They are perfect for each other. Each of them demand the best from each other. It isn't always perfect, but that is how they co-exist.
Okay let’s be real here for a second… Lewis cry’s all weekend every weekend..
Max asks one question… ANGRY DUTCHMAN
how did lewis get into this ?? whatta jerk. rent free...
RB and Max are just on a high that is rarely seen in F1 both from a purely superior machinery/driver combination to driver and personnel combination. RB really just has the whole package right now and I don't see this era's domination going anywhere till the new 2026 regs are introduced and so much is uncertain across the whole field.
More is being made of these radio messages than what's really there and I wouldn't classify it as bickering. Like it was said, these two have a long history and there relationship is very much established and just like two good longtime friends or even a marriage, arguments over the smallest of things will happen but if the foundation of the relationship is strong, as it clearly is here, it's not going to lead to anything serious and will be forgotten about quickly.
Yeah. I agree with the combination part.
I used to support Lewis/Nico/Merc and later Lewis/Bottas/Merc and the main thing I like watching them is that Mercedes as a whole, rarely make slip ups. They were like clockwork. And they are very consistent. But only as a team. Lewis, for the most part was consistent, and was the most consistent he had ever been his whole career but on a bad day, he could let high tensions bring him out of rhythm. Bottas was quick but not consistent at all.
But Max/GP/RB18 and RB as a combination are ruthlessly a different kind of consistent. It is partly the RB18 that Max is so dominant but to deny that Max is consistently fast even on his worse day. And can we really point out a bad day for him since its close to his good day as well? Its one thing being quick over one lap, its another being quick and quicker consistent over the entire race, and that's what Verstappen is in the RB18 (as GP said the metrics are massively under control). Like a Ferrari is a good qualifier car but the RB18 and W14 are better in race trim.
People are seriously milking this holy shit
For both its more important to keep eachother performing at their best than to be right or the boss. Therefore this works beautifully for them.
I think this manner of friendly bickering is simply the best way to deal with Max. If you tell him to shut up and get on with it, it will only piss him off. If you give him too much freedom, he'll start feeling too dominant within the team. But these kind of sarcastic comments, subtly reminding him it's a team game and he doesn't know everything, it helps balance the situation by telling Max off without making him angry about it. Max even responded in kind later, when he was asked about the weather situation and said 'well i cant see the radars can i'.
Anyone who questions the way they talk to each other has never worked side by side with someone you call a real friend. You don't take anything personal. You come back with a nasty reply and move on.
GP Might just be the best race engineer in F1.
me and one of my best friends will yell at each other when we’re being a dumbass, we’re like a manager and an umpire, then laughing again two minutes later
Only you and British media have a problem with this. Why ?
The “use your head” quote was likely referring to lifting through Eau Rouge due to lower ride heights. They unexplainable my gave up about a half second over the straight because they lifted there in later stints. Checo did it the whole race while max was asked to do it to keep the skids fresh enough to be legal during his second stint.
My guess was GP said this because checo in front of Max is like a red rag to a bull.
that's just an idea not even be proven on Braaaking
@@eco_logic the telemetry shows redbull lifting through eau rouge. The question is why and I speculated.
How could you miss quote GP right off the bat, What he actually said was clear.
People forget that they're Europeans. It's ok to be more direct. Don't read too much into it. It's not corporate America.
The "use your head" was referring to the fact both cars had instructions to lift through turn 2 and 3, hence the question if Checo was doin it to. The data shows both cars were losing 0,5secs a lap through those corners and the long straight to the rest of the field due to lifting.
The 'Use your head' command from GP to Max isn't to do with tyre choice, but whether or not both cars were lifting through Eau Rouge. Take a look at the telemetry data. Not too sure about the reasons why
First stint, Checo was lifting but Max wasn't. Middle stint, Max starts to lift off potentially after the 'Use your head' command from GP
Worth looking into! RBs probably had even more pace in them !
Max needs some way to keep himself entertained during the race, and annoying GP is how he does it
This^^^
It wasn’t long ago that GP was poking Max just to check if he was still awake
@@rongiefaustino8867 Last week, right? Their radio is entertaining as hell.
We have come to a point of nothing going on that we’ve magnified the usual conversations between Max and GP and blow them out of proportion.
British biased media making a story out of everything huh? Max literally said that if GP retires, he retires aswell. They have a beautiful relationship and are the best duo since Brawn and Schumacher.
Its every race. They only used it in spa in the livestream for you to make a story. Listen more often to teamradios without the director feeding them to you.
Max is still young and knows what he can do, he's a bit fiery from time to time..
No other topic to discuss. Its like discussing relationships between two people without knowing them.
The conversation about both cars doing it is most likely about their huge lift off at eu rouge that was costing them 5 tenths of a second. Most likely to save the plank underneath. Brrrrake f1 posted a great video about this
its just an idea Brrrrake didn't prove that this was actually the reason
i know is minimal but why giving incorrect quotes when max Engineer said " Slowly getting used max" and not "i'm just about getting used to it?, why change the actual radio message........
Men at work
the channel BrrrakeF1 posted a great video today with a great indepth analysis of whar the "use your head" code actually meant.
Tbh the relationship between them seems quite normal
I feel like people are drumming up the issue especially after that whole controversy involving Max and Checo in Brazil even though both cases are different. Max has only ever been Checo's teammate since 2021 while GP has been with Max from the start. Even from there it is easy to tell that it will take a lot more than just radio messages to break a relationship.
Personally I have to say it´s funny people only now slowly start to notice how these two handle each other. It´s been like this for years and *no* it´s not all fun and games. GP is a solid Engineer and personality and possibly one of the few engineers on the grid that would actually work with Verstappen, further yet he actually adds to the equation because he isn´t scared to even tell Max he ''was'' being childish back in the really early days. And even under current conditions where Max is breaking records GP talks back to Max. A dynamic we don't always see in a winning combo of driver + engineer.
Though to be honest Max still does his own thing regardless.
"Use your head" is probably a code word for something
Yeah, it's pretty obvious he's telling Max that he doesn't wanna say it on the radio and Max should just guess what it is cause he would probably know...
@@Dyilsthey both knew what that meant. That’s whyMax asked, are we both doing it. It was team code yes
I would love to see Lambiase get on a podcast one day.
Bearing their super solid relationship in mind, I think they're just giving a show to entertain the audience and get into the other teams heads (and Checo's)
Sure some are code, but mostly a show IMO.
I remember a conversation during a race in which Max Verstappen doubted a team order from GP.
Gianpiero Lambiase: "Max, if you have all the information we have here at the pit wall, then tell us what we should do now".
Max fell silent and carried out the orders... 😃
These two are a match made in heaven.
No wonder GP appeared two times beside Max on the podium this year.
Probably been like this all along, just liberty media jumping on the DTS bandwagon, generating drama out of nothing
You guys are really blowing this out of proportion. 🙄
Don't be sensationalist guys. There is truly nothing to see here. If you want something interesting to talk about, figure out why Checo and Max where both lifting in Eau Rouge!
max said he'd retire if red bull ever lost lambiase, so I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they're just fine
Nothing new, just F1 broadcasting it more than usual.
I personally believe, Max wouldn't be as mature as he currently is without Lambiase's calm, cold and solid radios, this dude is ice cold, he doesn't crumble underneath the weight of a World Champion's ego.
Race engineers are the unsung heroes. Be it GP, Rocky or Bono
Super weird video. Clearly just banter, why spread negativity and gossip.
I didn't knew we needed a video to understand that their banter on team radio was nothing but a well understood and developed relationship...Why do u people have to blow it up like something is bad or out of ordinary!
Didn't see you guys making a video when Toto asked lewis to shut up and drive the car... I guess Max name in video title gets more views that SIR LH does...😂😂
Two obviously talented and competitive people. I enjoyed the humour.
Pretty sure it was all about managing the car because of a compromised setup. GP was looking at the bigger picture, meanwhile, Vers was too concerned with going fast.
blowing off racing steam between 2 guys that seemingly can needle each other hard, deliver brutally and still be cool with each other .
Sounds like a damn nice work-relationship :)
Can we have an actually interesting video about something like Leclerc and Xavi? That would be an actually interesting breakdown. Xavi is insanely incompetent and it really feels like Leclerc is starting to have enough. A video like this is a nothing burger as Max and GP clearly don't have anything between them. They just got a bit heated.
They both want to win & they both think their way is the best to win. Natural competitive spirit
If you want to know their relationship, just watch the ending of Red Bull: Behind the Charge of Sazuka last year.
They managed to make 3 videos of content out of this. Well done haha!
1:17 Just about getting used to it... you mean "slowly getting used to it""?*
Love Glenn’s voice overs
Compare GP to either Ferrari race engineer.
they’ve always been like this. it’s just that we don’t get shown it much
same as why people say ‘lewis moans too much’ when actually it’s ‘f1 show us lewis moaning more than anyone else’
max is getting the same treatment sadly
y'all need to watch brrrakef1's video on RB sandbagging (spoiler: that's a clickbait title, it's good info) about the "use your head" and "are both drivers doing it" bit. They're talking about the lift in Eau Rouge probably to limit skid plate wear due to setup issues caused by wet weather tires. Checo was doing it, Max wasn't, GP asked Max to do it, Max asked if both were, then starts doing it.
Max Verstappen and GP are amazing to watch in a weekend anyone who says we can work with Max Verstappen I will tell you must be joking only GP can do it😊
Hmm. I wonder if you’ve listened to Brrrake’s analysis of the Spa GP runs of the Red Bulls. Enlightening, to say the least - especially on the build-up of the lap times.
just ideas he didn't prove anything unfortunately
The opening lines shows the biritish biasness this sports has been plagued with.
We get such a tiny fraction of what is no doubt almost continuous communication between drivers and their race engineers - who's to say they aren't like this every race weekend?
Max is clearly the best driver in the field. I think he just likes to play with them when the urge presents itself.
How did y’all come up with 10 minutes of content just simply discussing how close Max and GP are?
It's probably just that we're hearing it more now that there's less competition. Remember when they played everything it was all the team principles etc. Even this year toto got on Lewis etc.