Zeke was naive when it came to Eren. It's tragic how things turned out. Eren turned out to be the son Grisha always wanted while living in Marley, while Zeke turned out to be the son Grisha wanted while living in Paradis.
@@lipton3120 Zeke just wanted a peaceful life while eren wanted to explore the world and slay the titans(zeke was to save eldians). Thus both wanting the opposite of what they wouldve been if they were in opposite lives. Things would’ve been very different.
5:20 he looking at Eren so cute Zeke really loves Eren, sad that Eren doesn't give a shit about him. There's also when Colt asks Zeke to not scream and he says "I know the feeling for a younger brother".
I don't completely agree that eren does not give a shit about zeke, he understands him, he just does not agree with him and needs to do whatever he has to. Eren did give zeke a closure by allowing grisha to see zeke and apologize to him, World of aot is way too cruel.
They're just doomed to be on opposite sides its in their blood. Royal family is willing to give up where the Attack Titan inheritors are always against them.
@@fara2999 I feel it's kinda when like a mother refers to herself as "mommy" instead of just "mom" in order to embarras her child in front of someone else.
I just don't understand this. How can eren brainwash them. His father slaughtered the royals when eren didn't even inherit the founding titan then how ?
@@ackermanlevi07 may be isayama is breaking a time travel theory called grandfather and grandson , or may be he's follow the theory where time leaper can control and see his previous timeline ..... Both are different theory which are against each other but meadia shows both , even the second theory is more interesting for making a movie
Aw man 4:50-5:30 is heartbreaking in its own subtle way, Zeke looks so happy and carefree trying to remain professional but obviously just giddy that he gets to talk to his brother.
I think things wouldve been different had he not come to Paradis and did what he did. Zeke almost singlehandedly took out Eren’s comrades/friends, and Erwin as the beast titan when they went back to Shiganshina. I think under different circumstances, Eren would’ve been more attached to Zeke. But, Zeke’s crash course into Eren’s life was a destructive one as his enemy.
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If he hadn't had so much fun playing baseball against Eldians, killing everyone who was just trying to survive, or turning them into titans, then I'd like him. He just looked like he was enjoying himself too much killing Erwin and everyone else. Other than that his plan and his genuine brotherly feelings for Eren are really sweet
I believe it was explained as “I have to have fun in what I do. I’m not like my father.” Even then his true emotion slipped through at times like when he crushed the boulder thinking about what King Reiss did and the second time when he got pissed when the Scouts kept charging at him because he felt it was a pointless thing. He even said, “What a waste”. I think it’s a coping mechanism rather than genuine enjoyment. At most he’d feel detached from them. Everything for his grand plan that he believes will end the tragedy of Eldian existence in a way he thinks is most suitable. (Peaceful extinction via being unable to reproduce. But the living ones get to live out the rest of their days without fear of being invaded by the rest of the world.)
I'm a bit surprised by all the "Zeke is a good brother, Eren didn't care about him" comments. Zeke loves the concept of being an older brother; he loves the idea of having family. But that doesn't mean he's good at doing those things. He projects all his childhood trauma, worldview, etc. onto someone younger than himself, and elevates himself to the White Knight who will "correct" poor Eren's erroneous worldview. Eren isn't a human person to Zeke, he 's just a representtion of Zeke's childhood self. Zeke wants to "save Eren from the legacy of their father" because it will make him feel like he saved his childhood self from the legacy of Grisha. Eren makes it very clear he needs zero saving, but Zeke doesn't care about that. He decides before he ever MEETS Eren that Eren is brainwashed and a victim. Eren is WAY too proud of his indepdence and freedom to be okay with being seen that way. A good older brother would actually get to know who Eren is as a person, without projecting, as an equal not a preacher. Since Zeke never bothered to do that, and it was obvious to Eren that Zeke was just projecting, plus they had no shared life experiences and were on opposite sides of a bloody battle....why would Eren be obligated to care about this dude? it was criminally easy for Eren to manipulate him, and so he does. Reiner knew Eren WAY better than Zeke ever did -- and so Eren is willing to be honest with Reiner in a way he never bothers to with Zeke.
I Agree 100% with all of this. I just want to add that I feel that Zeke did get genuinely excited at the IDEA of being an older brother, having more family other than his grandparents was probably something he really wished for, knowing everyone he considered as such died. However, he had a highly idealized version of what being an older brother is and couldn't build a proper relationship not only because of time restraints but because his social capabilities are stunted to some degree, having been a child soldier and seemingly having no social interactions outside of the military and the other titan shifters (we all know that he can be sadistic with his enemies, and I think is because of this lack of interactions, making him unable to see those he kills as humans like himself, paired up with Marleys intense dehumanization process of course) things like him empathizing with Colt, who is an incredible older brother willing to die for his baby brother and saying that he has a little brother to look after as well or giving Eren dating advice. But yes. I think he liked the idea of Eren being his little brother and living with him in Marley, but had no clue as to how start building a relationship with him. It blinded him to the point of not seeing Eren's true intentions.
It's sad you had to mention that last part, it should be obvious that you meant it as brothers but there'll always be someone to make it sound illegal.
@@denjisleftnu-There are literally people in this community who ship Eren with Levi and Hange. Unfortunately you have to put disclaimers like this whenever you make such statements otherwise it will attract the weirdoes.
Zeke actually really love and cared about his brother. He is a good brother. It's just sad that Eren had another plan. If they has same plan that will be the best
I wish their relationship had a happier conclusion. It's sad that it ended with no goodbyes or just a little sincerity between them like actual brothers. They're so distant from each other and the only people Eren is close with and fully accepts are his friends. Eren is not close enough with his family, except his mom.
Zeke was so delusional all he wanted was a functional family and finding out he had a brother after years of only having his grandparents (who were probably hard to relate to due to the age gap and probably dead or not so good in the brain) made him excited. He really wanted to relive those momments with his "dad" by recreating them with Eren but Eren was playing him the whole time 😢
No i dont think he delusional at all. Zeke lacked of family love because of his parent’s ideal thats why when he found out he has a younger brother, he thought Eren went through the same thing as him. That’s why Zeke wants to make up the love for Eren and him as well ( he just wants a family thats love him)
during The Rumble there was an old couple who left behind in a locked up prison. i believe that was Zeke's grandparents. And during Zeke's visit to Eren in the hospital, there was another mental patient that appeared to have his daughter fed up to dogs. I believe that was the same grandpa.
Eren not catching that ball should’ve been a clear sign to zeke that Eren was not with him. He did want to save everyone but not in the way he wanted too. It’s hard not to feel bad for zeke.
You don’t get it, do you? When Eldians don’t reproduce, the Eldians live the rest of their lives peacefully and the titan power vanishes with the last standing Eldian. And there would be no more titan-blooded people in the world. But Eren just wanted to finish HUMANITY including fellow Eldians. So fk him. He doesn’t give a crap about anyome but his stupid girlfriend and friends. Zeke cares about Eldians and the world.
@imthecoolest50 Zeke wanted to end Eldian because he had no friend, or person who could give him the meaning of life. He's so obsessed about the thought "If only we're not born, this wouldn't happen". In his young life, he didn't get a caring parents, he lived around Marley who clearly despised them, and then the last, he met with Ksaver, the former beast Titan. None of them that I mentioned teach him the importance of life. Which in the other hand you know Eren was loved by his mother, his friends, and really had a strong will to live.
@@imthecoolest50Zeke's plan was fundamentally flawed bcoz for eldians to have good life, others have to accept them and that would takes years, so except for the last few old eldians most of them will never live the good life they wanted to leave. Eren's plan works on this front as it cripples the whole world and makes the eldian as good people/ paradise island as a strong nation.
@@namespacestd131 he's literally a genocidal race traitor. Not to mention war criminal. He and his group invaded Paradis island and murdered/experimented on average citizens/villagers. Bastard doesn't even cover 1% of what kind of psycho monster he was.
We can all respect Zeke for not being jealous but concerned about Eren's consciousness "distorted" by their father 3:36 why not actually? That was nice opportunity - although Wall Titans were back there at Paradis
I think the conditions for the 50 year plan wasn’t ready then and there yet, they still needed to weaken Marley’s military and set up shop nice and cozy on paradis before they could begin the euthanization plan and a test of the rumbling to keep the other world at bay.
There's a good chance that Marley's full military might would have been able to destroy the founding titan if it transformed, isolated from supporting colossal titans, while in the middle of the city.
people who were saying he didn’t care about eren is untrue. he literally told eren he would save him multiple times. he knew eren was raised by grisha and because of zeke’s experience, he thought eren was brainwashed. yeah he ultimately used eren to get to the founder, but both were using each other and not killing each other. even after zeke got into the paths he still wanted to save eren. eren also cared for zeke seeing how grisha used and pressured zeke at a young age to do something he didn’t want to do. i feel like eren manipulated his dad as a way to teach him a lesson by making Grisha do what he almost made zeke do. eren even let grisha see zeke and apologize to him, while zeke finally got the relief of never having a caring dad.
The thing I noticed about zeke is that he is so calm and mature but beast titan will always have that evil smile on his face and would trash talk anyone before and after the battle that ge wins. There attitudes are quite different. Beast is more like frieza from dbs at times...
Zeke: I see. So you believe that Father was right? Eren: No he was wrong. And I, the son that he raised, was wrong, too. An imporant hint that Zeke heavily neglected.
I know people have mixed feelings abt Zeke but I absolutely adore his love for Eren. In an ideal world he would have been the embarrassing big brother 😭🩵
Being an older brother with family that is absolute hell and everyone is awful i totally understand where Zeke is coming from. Ive gave a roof to my younger brother, food, stability, and all the advice and care i could give to someone but still to this day he wouldnt even know or shed a tear if he did know i died. I amounted the situation as having a sociopathic fool as a brother. I just wanted someone all my life to know who has my back no matter what crazy situation and is my blood. But i guess the hand i got wasnt to be. Sucks, but like i said i totally understand Zeke. 3:23 fn kills me man.
Aye bro i feel you, being the oldest one in the family just cruel for any child 🤕 and yeah maybe this issue the real reason i understand this Zeke character so badly…
What’s really sad is that Zeke has spent most of his life believing that it would have been better if he had never been born, so he sees Eren not only as a someone who was a victim because Grisha passed on his mission to him, but because he was born into a world at all. He truly wanted to help Eren in his own sad way and that made him an incredible antagonist for the series.
i really love zeke he is really good man tho he wanted to save entire world from titan domination so he wanted to kill all "subject of ymir". if we sees from his perspective his plan is really great. even he also subject of ymir but he also ready to sacrifice himself after all and not getting married too. and he is good brother too even he know eran try to betrays him he still did not want to leave eran and still want to help him. i still can't digest how eran can betrays this man.
3:42 Ever notice this scene where Ymir Is Holding some kind of a ball just like Zeke (Ymir and Zeke is the Royal blood) While Eren Are same as the Devil Edit 1 (the secobd edit will be edited when i reached 2oo likes): Never expected to have so many likes
i feel so bad for zeke, he trully wanted to be a brother figure to eren and "snap him out of his brainwash" but he was too blind to see who eren trully was until it was too late
What I really like about this story is that there is no bad guy here. Everyone having a reason that forced them to take a side. But noone had a bad feelings towards the other. I still remember the last words of bertholdt before being eaten by Armin “You are not a devil. You are beloved friends but you all have to die. Now I can accept whatever it happens. Noone is wrong and we can do nothing for it. The thing is the world we live in is just too cruel”. That time I thought he’s saying crape as his role in the story, but after knowing the truth, I knew how considerate he was about his friends and people behind the wall that he is ready to kill them to protect them from cruelty he and his race is facing for centuries.
@@tychopanda That motherf***er is the only objective villain in the story, but other than him there are no heroes or villains, just people with their own motivations who have to resort to violence to achieve them.
Funny how Zeke is voiced by Dio Brando and he brought his little brother in Paths that can stop time and Eren has the ability to TRANSCEND THROUGH TIME with the Shingeki no Kyojin.
@2:42 when zeke moved his left arm, it looked like he was planning to pull a gun or transform if eren didn't reword his sentence. Damn good storytelling
2:40 Eren really went,"Those kids dying was what let us live". Bro was tryna tell zeke that yes, I support killing kids and he took it the wrong way so bro just freestyled his way outside of it💀
The fact that Eren cares more about his friends than his own family is insane 😂 he did everything possible to make sure his friends live a long life, but was the reason of his parents and brother death and didn’t even try to change it 🤣🤣 he was okay with them dying in order to save his friends
Zeke had no clue about who he was fighting, just genuinely wanted to save his Little brother. Eren played along as he mentions himself. The bigger deal is, the scouts being all buddy-buddy with annie and reiner the second they see them. Only one critical moment and that was it.
Eren: He has Titan markings around his eyes, he must be the Beast Titan!... ...so basically him missing an arm and having it steaming wasn't the first thing you'd notice.
@@user-yk9kh3xu5s ...The torn limbs do hurt Zeke... as he mentions. He still acts that way. I too would probably focus on Zeke's face instead of looking at his steaming limbs if i went through everything Eren did. There's steam everywhere anyway... His face is steaming too.
Zeke: IM COMING BACK TO RESCUE YOU Season 3 and a half and Season 4: We are now what we should have been Me: I love how Zeke and Eren's bond has been through all of the series Even creating the Yeagerist Movement
Eren: There's no greater salvation than never being born into this world. Me: Or any world that consists of creation bearing free will. The world of your viewers may not have titans, but rather the same particular fools who commence nearly every war... humanity.
well if zeke would win, then isn't all eren loved one would die happily without war, cause then eldian would naturally die without further generation. well i need to rewatch aot, its 1 year now i am really forgoting that feeling
Tbf now i want to see them continue the aot high school series. And introduce zeke as the brother who ran away from home, live with his grandparents, and change school or possible run his own school. Only to come back to try and get eren to enrolled into his school. recruiting/bribing the help of reiner, bertholt, and annie to do so
6:03 hits hard. Eren already knows what is coming, what he will become. It's almost as if the hope Zeke displays annoys him because he knows he can't change anything.
Honestly, I kind of wanted Zeke to see Eren devouring Grisha after he mentions they hadn't seen it. Just to rub salt in the wound since Eren was freaking out not knowing wtf his dad was doing and thinking that since he let his mom die, it made his dad go crazy. Anyone else remember that tiny glimpse in S1 Ep.3 where he gives Eren the key while Eren is absolutely flailing and then wakes up by Mikasa because Keith carried him back?
Zeke was so into having a younger brother he missed all the red flags. And there were enough of them to make a parade.
He saw the red flags. He just went "I can fix him".
@@TheJotaroKujoi laughed so hard at both your comments 😂😭 thank you 🙏🏻
@@TheJotaroKujolike women
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There were enough red flags to make a rumbling
Zeke was naive when it came to Eren. It's tragic how things turned out. Eren turned out to be the son Grisha always wanted while living in Marley, while Zeke turned out to be the son Grisha wanted while living in Paradis.
Wow I never thought of it that way! Thanks for that perspective
could you elaborate on why grisha wanted a son like zeke while in paradis? i dont really see why
@@lipton3120 Zeke just wanted a peaceful life while eren wanted to explore the world and slay the titans(zeke was to save eldians). Thus both wanting the opposite of what they wouldve been if they were in opposite lives. Things would’ve been very different.
Damn, nobody got what they wanted huh?
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5:20 he looking at Eren so cute
Zeke really loves Eren, sad that Eren doesn't give a shit about him.
There's also when Colt asks Zeke to not scream and he says "I know the feeling for a younger brother".
I don't completely agree that eren does not give a shit about zeke, he understands him, he just does not agree with him and needs to do whatever he has to. Eren did give zeke a closure by allowing grisha to see zeke and apologize to him, World of aot is way too cruel.
yeah, Eren does care about Zeke. The fact that he allow Grisha to see Zeke through him is his way to give closure to Zeke trauma.
It's like Zeke teases Eren about his Girlfriend
That every elder brother do 😂
They're just doomed to be on opposite sides its in their blood. Royal family is willing to give up where the Attack Titan inheritors are always against them.
@@mihail221 nice observation, I didn't think about that.
Zeke at 0:37 "Eren, we're victims! You've been brainwashed by him."
Me: 👁👄👁
Eren: emm yeah but that.....
little did he know Eren was the one that manipulated Grisha
wait till he pulls the reverse card
Yeah uhm, Zeke that's the opposite
No, you and your dad are both victims...of me...
4:52 Zeke: ヾ(@^▽^@)ノ Baby brother is asking me for relationship advice! Someone has a crush!
Eren: Mikasa, I have always hated you.
He was not talking about Mikasa and it was obvious
@@Remisaku he literally says Ackerman lol
@@Remisakuabout Levi??!
I don't blame Eren tho, the whole fandom has a crush on Levi
@@gerarquiaFM theres no way you are saying that rn. levi is a man in his thirties
@@yukiriasi think he was being satire
I’ve always loved the scene at 5:20. Zeke just giving Eren brotherly advice about girls. Zeke has only ever wanted a familial relationship with Eren.
I almost pity zeke but his sadism with Miche makes it really hard
@@glossyplane542finally someone mentions that
@@glossyplane542THE NORTH REMEMBERS💔
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4:45
Zeke refer to himself as "onii-chan" instead of "onii-san", that's so cute 😂❤️
Whats the difference?
While san gives you respect and serious vibe chan gives you sempathy and cuteness in japanese as I know
@@fara2999 I feel it's kinda when like a mother refers to herself as "mommy" instead of just "mom" in order to embarras her child in front of someone else.
Thank you 👍🏻 so its the cute version
Zeke is really a cutie. He likes using -chan. He calls Annie and Pieck as Annie-chan and Pieck-chan 🥰
I love how even after Zeke knows Eren wasnt brainwashed by their father but he still love Eren still
People skip over that part
00:40 Zeke thought grisha brainwashed eren... But in reality, eren brainwashed grisha and forced him to possess the founding Titan.. ..
And then he brainwashed Zeke...
@@abhabh6896 yep....
I just don't understand this. How can eren brainwash them. His father slaughtered the royals when eren didn't even inherit the founding titan then how ?
@@ackermanlevi07 may be isayama is breaking a time travel theory called grandfather and grandson , or may be he's follow the theory where time leaper can control and see his previous timeline ..... Both are different theory which are against each other but meadia shows both , even the second theory is more interesting for making a movie
@@ackermanlevi07 Eren can speak with past holders of the attack titan, thats how he brainwashed them.
Aw man 4:50-5:30 is heartbreaking in its own subtle way, Zeke looks so happy and carefree trying to remain professional but obviously just giddy that he gets to talk to his brother.
I think things wouldve been different had he not come to Paradis and did what he did. Zeke almost singlehandedly took out Eren’s comrades/friends, and Erwin as the beast titan when they went back to Shiganshina. I think under different circumstances, Eren would’ve been more attached to Zeke. But, Zeke’s crash course into Eren’s life was a destructive one as his enemy.
6:03
Eren: "Yamero, muda da"
Zeke: "DON'T YOU 'MUDA' ME!!!"
Zeke : MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMIDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA MUDA!
Dio:Hello
you can oly "ora" me muda is my job👽👽
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Really a true Elder Brother who never
abandon his younger
Though younger betray him🥺
It's hard to say. Yes, in a simple manner, Eren does betray Zeke but not fully.
Eren just doing what he need to do. That was necessary.
Like Thor and Loki.
@@bigbosstyler6749 OMG YASS
Not like eren doesn't care about Zeke , he had to work according to his plan
Imagine they are born in normal world :( I would love to see that
Maybe someday in Aot jr high.
Eren will still go against the world since he is really bored with normal reality. He will always be the villain in the story he wants to create.
@@hessiankyojin AoT High school?
@@abdullah21225 Yee
@@hessiankyojin nah he will be more like a adventure who loves adventure and will fight any system he finds unfair 😑
Love him or hate him, Zeke is a great big brother, even if he misunderstood.
Literally said "I can fix him" and erens like
"Bruh,you cant"
"eren, we are both victims."
"WE??"
3:15 Eren stated his plan to Zeke very clearly without supporting his plan
true but after eren didn’t catch it, zeke knew he wasn’t with the plan.
If he hadn't had so much fun playing baseball against Eldians, killing everyone who was just trying to survive, or turning them into titans, then I'd like him. He just looked like he was enjoying himself too much killing Erwin and everyone else. Other than that his plan and his genuine brotherly feelings for Eren are really sweet
I believe it was explained as “I have to have fun in what I do. I’m not like my father.” Even then his true emotion slipped through at times like when he crushed the boulder thinking about what King Reiss did and the second time when he got pissed when the Scouts kept charging at him because he felt it was a pointless thing. He even said, “What a waste”.
I think it’s a coping mechanism rather than genuine enjoyment. At most he’d feel detached from them. Everything for his grand plan that he believes will end the tragedy of Eldian existence in a way he thinks is most suitable. (Peaceful extinction via being unable to reproduce. But the living ones get to live out the rest of their days without fear of being invaded by the rest of the world.)
Just like Annie. I don't get why people like her that much after all the killing she did with a BIG smile on her face
@@icaropinto1334 i dont get how the survey corps forgave her
This is the same guy who turned Falco into a titan.
@@invizzy because the writing with her character is dog shit
I'm a bit surprised by all the "Zeke is a good brother, Eren didn't care about him" comments. Zeke loves the concept of being an older brother; he loves the idea of having family. But that doesn't mean he's good at doing those things. He projects all his childhood trauma, worldview, etc. onto someone younger than himself, and elevates himself to the White Knight who will "correct" poor Eren's erroneous worldview. Eren isn't a human person to Zeke, he 's just a representtion of Zeke's childhood self. Zeke wants to "save Eren from the legacy of their father" because it will make him feel like he saved his childhood self from the legacy of Grisha. Eren makes it very clear he needs zero saving, but Zeke doesn't care about that. He decides before he ever MEETS Eren that Eren is brainwashed and a victim. Eren is WAY too proud of his indepdence and freedom to be okay with being seen that way.
A good older brother would actually get to know who Eren is as a person, without projecting, as an equal not a preacher. Since Zeke never bothered to do that, and it was obvious to Eren that Zeke was just projecting, plus they had no shared life experiences and were on opposite sides of a bloody battle....why would Eren be obligated to care about this dude? it was criminally easy for Eren to manipulate him, and so he does. Reiner knew Eren WAY better than Zeke ever did -- and so Eren is willing to be honest with Reiner in a way he never bothers to with Zeke.
I love how you are so insightful about things! I also think the same !
Zeke didn't have that much time you forget.
And of course Reiner would know Eren Better. He spent years in Paradis.
Well said. I wouldn't give a shit about my "long lost" brother if I found out he crushed all my comrades in one morning
@@phuongvu527👏👏 exactly lol
I Agree 100% with all of this.
I just want to add that I feel that Zeke did get genuinely excited at the IDEA of being an older brother, having more family other than his grandparents was probably something he really wished for, knowing everyone he considered as such died.
However, he had a highly idealized version of what being an older brother is and couldn't build a proper relationship not only because of time restraints but because his social capabilities are stunted to some degree, having been a child soldier and seemingly having no social interactions outside of the military and the other titan shifters (we all know that he can be sadistic with his enemies, and I think is because of this lack of interactions, making him unable to see those he kills as humans like himself, paired up with Marleys intense dehumanization process of course) things like him empathizing with Colt, who is an incredible older brother willing to die for his baby brother and saying that he has a little brother to look after as well or giving Eren dating advice.
But yes. I think he liked the idea of Eren being his little brother and living with him in Marley, but had no clue as to how start building a relationship with him. It blinded him to the point of not seeing Eren's true intentions.
Eren: Onii san
Zeke: "become teary"
What a loving and respectful moment
“when i save the world it’ll be with you” goes unbelievably hard
I love their relationship, AS BROTHERS ofc.
It's sad you had to mention that last part, it should be obvious that you meant it as brothers but there'll always be someone to make it sound illegal.
@@denjisleftnu- well said
@@denjisleftnu-There are literally people in this community who ship Eren with Levi and Hange. Unfortunately you have to put disclaimers like this whenever you make such statements otherwise it will attract the weirdoes.
My country has a saying: no homo
Zeke actually really love and cared about his brother. He is a good brother. It's just sad that Eren had another plan. If they has same plan that will be the best
I wish their relationship had a happier conclusion. It's sad that it ended with no goodbyes or just a little sincerity between them like actual brothers. They're so distant from each other and the only people Eren is close with and fully accepts are his friends. Eren is not close enough with his family, except his mom.
That is what Aot is about they gave no happy goodbyes to anyone 😢😢
Yeah but he had her eaten so....
@@abrahamcisneros1425 Not as if he wanted to do it, but he had no choice if events where to play out the way they did.
Zeke is the big brother
We know
Man i thought Zeke is erens grandson
@@anshumansingh6565before Zeke’s reveal I thought he was Eren’s uncle or family friend
@@anshumansingh6565 When i first saw him i thought he Erwin or Reiner’s dad 💀
I thought he was Mikasa's grandmother
Zeke: "You look nothing like your father"
Eren * Literally a picture perfect replica of Grisha *
Nah, Eren looks like Carla and Zeke looks like blonde haired Grisha
Eren looks like his mom.
I feel bad for Zeke
Same
Me too
Yeah, and his plan was the most logical and least violent out of the options they had left.
@@thenamesgames6393 true they wanted to end this hatred world by using the founding Titan together
@@aliezahjuarez1212 sacrificing historia and her children would only continue the titan inheriting 🐂 💩
I like to imagine in an alternate universe Zeke and Eren would've grown up together and Zeke would've been the best big brother ever
Same
Zeke was so delusional all he wanted was a functional family and finding out he had a brother after years of only having his grandparents (who were probably hard to relate to due to the age gap and probably dead or not so good in the brain) made him excited. He really wanted to relive those momments with his "dad" by recreating them with Eren but Eren was playing him the whole time 😢
No i dont think he delusional at all. Zeke lacked of family love because of his parent’s ideal thats why when he found out he has a younger brother, he thought Eren went through the same thing as him. That’s why Zeke wants to make up the love for Eren and him as well ( he just wants a family thats love him)
during The Rumble there was an old couple who left behind in a locked up prison. i believe that was Zeke's grandparents. And during Zeke's visit to Eren in the hospital, there was another mental patient that appeared to have his daughter fed up to dogs. I believe that was the same grandpa.
Eren and Zeke. Gives me this weird inkling of both Thor and loki 😆
Eren not catching that ball should’ve been a clear sign to zeke that Eren was not with him. He did want to save everyone but not in the way he wanted too. It’s hard not to feel bad for zeke.
I really wished they added a scene where eren apologized from his big brother zeke. And if both had a final emotional talk before there death
ig its canon that eren didnt care for his own brother so he leaves him to get sliced by levi at the end...
Zeke wanted to finish Eldians, Eren wanted to finish Titans. There was difference.
You don’t get it, do you? When Eldians don’t reproduce, the Eldians live the rest of their lives peacefully and the titan power vanishes with the last standing Eldian. And there would be no more titan-blooded people in the world. But Eren just wanted to finish HUMANITY including fellow Eldians. So fk him. He doesn’t give a crap about anyome but his stupid girlfriend and friends. Zeke cares about Eldians and the world.
@@imthecoolest50
No one cares about a world We are with eren A world must be destroyed
@imthecoolest50 Zeke wanted to end Eldian because he had no friend, or person who could give him the meaning of life. He's so obsessed about the thought "If only we're not born, this wouldn't happen". In his young life, he didn't get a caring parents, he lived around Marley who clearly despised them, and then the last, he met with Ksaver, the former beast Titan.
None of them that I mentioned teach him the importance of life. Which in the other hand you know Eren was loved by his mother, his friends, and really had a strong will to live.
@@Uiuiui-wu7icand thats why eldia was destroyed anyways😂
@@imthecoolest50Zeke's plan was fundamentally flawed bcoz for eldians to have good life, others have to accept them and that would takes years, so except for the last few old eldians most of them will never live the good life they wanted to leave. Eren's plan works on this front as it cripples the whole world and makes the eldian as good people/ paradise island as a strong nation.
i love the jaeger brothers
Eren addresses Zeke as "nii-san" while Zeke refers to himself as "onii-chan". Such a cutie
Poor Zeke Eren was just using him😔
Zeke is a bastard but I respect how much he loves Eren.
Zeke is not a bastard bro 😂😂
@@namespacestd131 He is from Carla’s point of view lol
@@aqua2k210 oh right. Forgot that the Jaeger family members have weird relationships with each other. Eating each other and all 😂😂
@@aqua2k210i think it’s the other way around
@@namespacestd131 he's literally a genocidal race traitor. Not to mention war criminal. He and his group invaded Paradis island and murdered/experimented on average citizens/villagers. Bastard doesn't even cover 1% of what kind of psycho monster he was.
We can all respect Zeke for not being jealous but concerned about Eren's consciousness "distorted" by their father
3:36 why not actually? That was nice opportunity - although Wall Titans were back there at Paradis
I think the conditions for the 50 year plan wasn’t ready then and there yet, they still needed to weaken Marley’s military and set up shop nice and cozy on paradis before they could begin the euthanization plan and a test of the rumbling to keep the other world at bay.
There's a good chance that Marley's full military might would have been able to destroy the founding titan if it transformed, isolated from supporting colossal titans, while in the middle of the city.
They needed to provoke Marley so they could get their military in plain sight.
Zeke might be the most likable villain I've ever seen whlke still being afterall, a villain.
people who were saying he didn’t care about eren is untrue. he literally told eren he would save him multiple times. he knew eren was raised by grisha and because of zeke’s experience, he thought eren was brainwashed. yeah he ultimately used eren to get to the founder, but both were using each other and not killing each other. even after zeke got into the paths he still wanted to save eren. eren also cared for zeke seeing how grisha used and pressured zeke at a young age to do something he didn’t want to do. i feel like eren manipulated his dad as a way to teach him a lesson by making Grisha do what he almost made zeke do. eren even let grisha see zeke and apologize to him, while zeke finally got the relief of never having a caring dad.
The thing I noticed about zeke is that he is so calm and mature but beast titan will always have that evil smile on his face and would trash talk anyone before and after the battle that ge wins. There attitudes are quite different. Beast is more like frieza from dbs at times...
He killed the best commander ever so I took it personally, but the rewatch I'm doing right now is making me appreciate Zeke more.
Eren is really zeke's brother from another mother
Zeke: I see. So you believe that Father was right?
Eren: No he was wrong. And I, the son that he raised, was wrong, too.
An imporant hint that Zeke heavily neglected.
Not entirely sure what your getting at.
Basically, Zeke thought that Eren was manipulated by Ghrisha his whole life just like he was.
When in fact, it wasn't even the case. @@Chris-jw8vm
He's the best brother you can get while also the worst person to be acquainted with
I know people have mixed feelings abt Zeke but I absolutely adore his love for Eren. In an ideal world he would have been the embarrassing big brother 😭🩵
"Hey big bro lets play catch"
"Ok whats the ball?"
"My head"
Prretty unique and weird,first time actualky seeing their younger brother being stronger and more experienced than the older brother.
Knowing the future will do that to the younger brother
As much as Eren is "smart", Its like playing solitaire checking the cards and pressing undo so you know what cards you'll get
Being an older brother with family that is absolute hell and everyone is awful i totally understand where Zeke is coming from. Ive gave a roof to my younger brother, food, stability, and all the advice and care i could give to someone but still to this day he wouldnt even know or shed a tear if he did know i died. I amounted the situation as having a sociopathic fool as a brother. I just wanted someone all my life to know who has my back no matter what crazy situation and is my blood. But i guess the hand i got wasnt to be. Sucks, but like i said i totally understand Zeke. 3:23 fn kills me man.
Aye bro i feel you, being the oldest one in the family just cruel for any child 🤕 and yeah maybe this issue the real reason i understand this Zeke character so badly…
DIO takes care of Koichi
Or Diego and johnny 🤡
What’s really sad is that Zeke has spent most of his life believing that it would have been better if he had never been born, so he sees Eren not only as a someone who was a victim because Grisha passed on his mission to him, but because he was born into a world at all. He truly wanted to help Eren in his own sad way and that made him an incredible antagonist for the series.
i really love zeke he is really good man tho he wanted to save entire world from titan domination so he wanted to kill all "subject of ymir". if we sees from his perspective his plan is really great. even he also subject of ymir but he also ready to sacrifice himself after all and not getting married too. and he is good brother too even he know eran try to betrays him he still did not want to leave eran and still want to help him. i still can't digest how eran can betrays this man.
he still fought against eren and his comrades in shingashina, scouts were much more of a family to eren than Zeke.
However, Zeke’s plan doesn’t include the possibility that he plan can be undo. There are still loyal bloodlines.
Man, I really would like to see Zeke's dream where he gets to hang out with Eren.
Kinda sad that we couldn't have gotten a world to see these two brothers be part of each others lives
3:42
Ever notice this scene where Ymir Is Holding some kind of a ball just like Zeke (Ymir and Zeke is the Royal blood) While Eren Are same as the Devil
Edit 1 (the secobd edit will be edited when i reached 2oo likes): Never expected to have so many likes
The ball ymir is holding is an apple I think it's supposed to represent the bible in a way with temptation
@@DarkStriker06 yeah the Japanese love their Apple of Eden references
i feel so bad for zeke, he trully wanted to be a brother figure to eren and "snap him out of his brainwash" but he was too blind to see who eren trully was until it was too late
What I really like about this story is that there is no bad guy here. Everyone having a reason that forced them to take a side. But noone had a bad feelings towards the other. I still remember the last words of bertholdt before being eaten by Armin “You are not a devil. You are beloved friends but you all have to die. Now I can accept whatever it happens. Noone is wrong and we can do nothing for it. The thing is the world we live in is just too cruel”. That time I thought he’s saying crape as his role in the story, but after knowing the truth, I knew how considerate he was about his friends and people behind the wall that he is ready to kill them to protect them from cruelty he and his race is facing for centuries.
Because a war is a the worst triggering part to accept when reality strucks badly
Except for king fritz
@@tychopanda That motherf***er is the only objective villain in the story, but other than him there are no heroes or villains, just people with their own motivations who have to resort to violence to achieve them.
Except for Marley military officer who let dog eat grisha sister
except for floch
4:45 Eren's oni chan
Funny how Zeke is voiced by Dio Brando and he brought his little brother in Paths that can stop time and Eren has the ability to TRANSCEND THROUGH TIME with the Shingeki no Kyojin.
"Zeke, both our dad and you are the victims...of me...."
Zeke is such a good guy.
Funny thing is Zeke thinks there dad is brainwash Eren until he know it was Eren who manipulated Dad from the start 😂😅
I personally feel like Eren did love Zeke to an extent as he let Zeke and Grisha see eachother through memories.
Zeke just wants a family, all along.
Broooo dio sounding so innocent in this
"Eren, you've been brainwashed by our father!"
"Bitch, I brainwashed him. And you."
@2:42 when zeke moved his left arm, it looked like he was planning to pull a gun or transform if eren didn't reword his sentence. Damn good storytelling
Lol I was looking at that too
Zeke wanted a little bro but little bro was not as bad as the father, but a particularly worse kind.
Is it just me, or does Eren and Zeke remind me of Thor and Loki?
Yeah me too! Zeke looks especially like Thor in the paths
2:40
Eren really went,"Those kids dying was what let us live". Bro was tryna tell zeke that yes, I support killing kids and he took it the wrong way so bro just freestyled his way outside of it💀
Bravo Vince you've done it again!
Hey lets shake hands...
*Everything explodes
"Oh crap"
zeke looks so old yet hes younger than levi
Ymirs curse
Zeke is 29, the beard makes him look old
Zeke's plan is way better, I wish Zeke's plan worked and Eren didn't betray him
no.
@@vaibhavsatish413 a levi simp?
@@vaibhavsatish413 ?
Eren is not someone to sit down and take it
No balls
zeke is really craving to have a younger brother, lol
4:43 damn zeke your brother looks gnc af
The fact that Eren cares more about his friends than his own family is insane 😂 he did everything possible to make sure his friends live a long life, but was the reason of his parents and brother death and didn’t even try to change it 🤣🤣 he was okay with them dying in order to save his friends
What R U talking abt bruh? U R clearly confused
Eren LITERALLY drops the ball on him...
Zeke killed almost the entire scout regiment including erwin. How could eren forgive him.
Zeke had no clue about who he was fighting, just genuinely wanted to save his Little brother. Eren played along as he mentions himself.
The bigger deal is, the scouts being all buddy-buddy with annie and reiner the second they see them. Only one critical moment and that was it.
@@sock1 right. They cause the wall to fall. Killed their squad mates. Made hannes die. Pretty dumb. Also killed the entire scout regiment practically
3:22 I bet Eren held back vomit saying "Nii-san"
I would love him asf only if he didnt kill erwin
lowkey same but it’s hard not to love zeke
Zeke killed Miche and Erwin
Gabi killed Sasha
Reiner killed Marco
Mikasa killed Eren
Still we love them
0:33
Me after seeing "Stromedy" to my brothers search history:
I like how they connect to their titans with their ears as well. Helps them stay coordinated and bakanced.
zeke turned out to be such a fool, eren just played with him around like a puppet
He is not fool he just loves his brother
@@R.CHAD_ yeah, this comment is 7 months ago, i'm way past this anime now
@@rimka6593 i didn't checked time 😂
@@rimka6593🙄
@@rimka6593no one cares
Eren still saw Zeke as his brother, even after he betrays him he still calls him brother
It's hardly noticable that Zeke's voice actor is thesame as DIO's , which is a good thing
after finishing jojos part 3, no.
He's gonna voice Toji in Jjk
Eren: He has Titan markings around his eyes, he must be the Beast Titan!...
...so basically him missing an arm and having it steaming wasn't the first thing you'd notice.
anyone could have their limbs torn off, not everyone has those markings
@@sock1 ...I take it you have little clue what a person with torn limbs acts like. Not to mention steaming part.
@@user-yk9kh3xu5s ...The torn limbs do hurt Zeke... as he mentions. He still acts that way. I too would probably focus on Zeke's face instead of looking at his steaming limbs if i went through everything Eren did. There's steam everywhere anyway... His face is steaming too.
can't unhear dio 😭
The only time Dio ever acted as a true brother
Zeke: IM COMING BACK TO RESCUE YOU
Season 3 and a half and Season 4: We are now what we should have been
Me: I love how Zeke and Eren's bond has been through all of the series
Even creating the Yeagerist Movement
They kinda remind me of Snake and Liquid from Metal Gear and Thor and Loki from the MCU (I think you can guess why)
Zeke brando one of the best characters
this why sensei apologized for the bad ending.
Kasian Zeke padahal dia udah percaya Eren banget :"(
Eren: There's no greater salvation than never being born into this world.
Me: Or any world that consists of creation bearing free will. The world of your viewers may not have titans, but rather the same particular fools who commence nearly every war... humanity.
ZEKES FACE WHEN HE FOUND OUT EREN WAS HIS BROTHER AHHHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHA😂
well if zeke would win, then isn't all eren loved one would die happily without war, cause then eldian would naturally die without further generation.
well i need to rewatch aot, its 1 year now i am really forgoting that feeling
Tbf now i want to see them continue the aot high school series. And introduce zeke as the brother who ran away from home, live with his grandparents, and change school or possible run his own school. Only to come back to try and get eren to enrolled into his school. recruiting/bribing the help of reiner, bertholt, and annie to do so
6:03 hits hard. Eren already knows what is coming, what he will become.
It's almost as if the hope Zeke displays annoys him because he knows he can't change anything.
Honestly, I kind of wanted Zeke to see Eren devouring Grisha after he mentions they hadn't seen it. Just to rub salt in the wound since Eren was freaking out not knowing wtf his dad was doing and thinking that since he let his mom die, it made his dad go crazy. Anyone else remember that tiny glimpse in S1 Ep.3 where he gives Eren the key while Eren is absolutely flailing and then wakes up by Mikasa because Keith carried him back?