NHL Stars Who REFUSED To Play For Their Team
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Has your team ever had a player who refused to play?! And who won the Jack Eichel Trade?
No, everyone wants to play for Montreal, everyone knows that...
Jonathan Drouin didn’t really want to play in Tampa after getting sent down to the minors. That was a weird time period for me…
@@Leaf_VT I want to argue with you, but I can’t, it’s so true! 😂
Adam Fox Calgary
Blake Wheeler refused to sign with Phoenix after being drafted and signed with Boston.
Sabres firing the wrong person is something I would do in NHL franchise mode
The “NCAA” route should be called the “New York Rangers” route
Too bad only Hayes and Fox were good
@@ITDBruins ya that was all in the video dude
Call it whatever, Adam Fox can be the second best defensemen his whole career, next to Makar. But he will always lose a lot of respect from most true hockey fans. If you refuse to sign with whoever drafted you. You're just another spoiled kid who should've never made it. I guess it's not surprising he was a Harvard guy, and most likely a trust fund kid. I hope he never wins a Cup out of spite for refusing to sign with the team who drafted you and had the most amount of faith in you, by drafting you before anyone else did.
Not to mention, that Norris he won last year should've been Makars🤣🤣🤣✌️. This almost only happens with American players. Imagine if Canadians did the same thing and went to their favourite Canadian teams.....all the sudden the NHL would make a rule, cause the Cup would NEVER leave Canada. That's just a fact.
@@AshtrayAnnie Not necessary true. John Elway was a first overall pick in the NFL and refused to sign with the Colts when he was drafted. He then got signed by Denver and became their best QB ever. Even sticking with Hockey, i think most true hockey fans respect Eric Lindros (except the ones in Quebec)
I think you're just a Flames fan
@@ITDBruinsK, that football talk is totally irrelevant, with totally different rules and regulations. lol and I'm the furthest thing from a flames fan. I just pride myself on having integrity, and I have a huge respect for people who have the same. Eric Lindros was one of the only Canadians to ever do this (not to mention he forced the hand, in a way different spectacle) and if you do your research on the actual subject you'll see why he refused to sign. That's a big difference from Adam Fox who would literally only sign for one team. 🤣. Imagine if players from Toronto did that. Toronto would never lose, and Americans would have the worst hockey teams in the NHL. That's just a FACT.
Lindros is the most significant "refuse to play" in history. Brought the Avs a cup.
2 cups.
Forget the other guys, the way the Canucks lost Bure is just unacceptable on so many levels. That was the guy that could've taken you to the promised land, and that's how you treat him? Absolutely despicable management. I'm sure the entire Canucks fanbase would love to just erase the Messier era out of the history books completely because holy shit, was it ever a terrible time to be a Nucks' fan.
as a nucklehead fan.... you right.
Let’s go Rangers! 😂
It's a shame Bure never won a Stanley cup he was a hell of a player
Connor mcdavid playing in the 90s clutch and grab era where guys were trying to kill you on ever shift….
@Mike Schwab Bure played in a very tough time to be a skilled player. Always had to have your head up to make sure you wouldn’t get blind sided. Also had guys bear hugging you, interfering. Just makes what he was able to do all that more special. His end to end dashes look a lot like Connor Mcdavid’s.
@Mike Schwab I agree goaltenders have gotten better, but look at the 90s NJ devils neutral zone trap. Impossible to replicate that level of defensive play now, because it involves a ton of penalties in todays game.
@Mike Schwab pretty sure the equipment was bigger in the 90s and early 2000s then it is now dude , they downsized the pads 4 years ago,,, even Marc Andre Fleury been complaining about it
He is a great
Yashin and Ottawa, Then Islanders.
he sat out a whole year thinking his contract would just expire, but arbitration said he owed Ottawa a year still.
That was very amusing. Yashin was a star though at the time and Ottawa's captain... so very selfish decision by Yashin. Though what Ottawa got back for Yashin aka Jason Spezza and Zdeno Chara... I think things worked out well for Ottawa in the end.
Once he was traded to the Islanders, yashin gave ZERO fucks.
Yeah, Yashin screwed his career royally. Maybe he had a bad agent?. It's sad because he was talented enough to be a HOFer.
Eric Lindros refused to play for the Quebec Nordiques when they drafted him. Now that's a story.
Dangle’s trade tree on that is beautiful.
In most cases, I can see both sides to a story. But in Lindros' case no. Every Canadian kid growing up playing hockey knows how the draft works. No hockey player can hit 18 and say "I get to pick the team I play for,".... because that's not how the draft works. What I would have done, had I been Lindros is say, "I'll sign a 3 year contract, but in that contract will be your promise that I will be traded before the end of the first season. I'll play my guts out for you, but you have to promise to trade me. If it's not in my contract, then I promise you will not get ten goals out of me."
His parents didnt want him to play in Quebec
Lindros in the HOF is a disgrace.
Most people do not understand the politics of hockey in Quebec or the background to the situation Lindros was caught in. Nordiques represented Quebec nationalist sentiment and a star hockey player whether he likes it or not would be a poster boy for independence. A referendum had taken place where 49 percent voted in favour of separation from Canada. The risk that Lindros had in going to Nordiques in an separated Quebec was high - he would end up being a pariah in the hockey hockey world outside of Quebec with zero personal marketing potential. Any regular player had no such risk - the whole circumstances had to do with politics of the time.
Just for the Adam Fox trade, Lindholm is looking like the Flames best player and Hanifin is doing great on our blue line while Hamilton is in New Jersey and Fox is in New York! And for Ferland I have no idea where he is, so I think Flames got the better deal!
Yes but Hamilton was unquestionably the best player from the deal and that roster shakeup put the canes back on track. Lindholm wasn't going to be anything in Carolina so even though Calgary won the trade objectively, things have gone so well for the canes that I wouldn't risk changing it
That is very true, ferland in Vancouver
Cope
Ferland retired
Fox was just a sweetener in that trade. I’m pretty sure the Flames could have swung the deal with a second round as a substitute.
Great video as always buddy. You do a great job with research, editing, and in voice over. Thank you for all the quality entertainment you provide 👍
I wouldn’t say Eichel “refused” to play rather so the management just are complete idiots and forced Eichel to not play for them after not allowing him to get his preferred surgery. And I only say he didn’t “refuse” because he said he still would’ve played for Buffalo he they let him get his preferred surgery. So not so much a refusal to play but more so got forced out
I would say refuse is the right word but it is a very good reason to refuse.
@@kx4998 but he didn’t refuse to play for them though like I said. The Sabres forced him out of the lineup and like I said, Eichel even said he would’ve played for the Sabres had they let him get his preferred surgery. So he didn’t refuse to play for him, the Sabres simply didn’t trust the surgery forcing Eichel out of the organization
@@kx4998 very different than refusing to play for a team
@@chazzstasiuk7572
Jack Eichel was asking for trades prior to even being injured because he didn’t want to go through another rebuild… once they figured out that Taylor Hall wasn’t the answer and is only good as a 2nd liner on stacked teams like Boston, the writing was on the wall (IE the team was again bottom feeding).
He was gone regardless, but it is 100% true he didn’t refuse to play, the Sabres just didn’t want to let him get the surgery but he 100% did NOT want to stay in Buffalo even before that
@@shalizzle793 oh I know but just what an absolute shit show of poor management to a young talent. Im an Oilers fan and Im looking forward to the Knights squad after the olympic break once he’s clear to play
You by far use the best soundtracks to go with you're videos. Been a fan since 4.5k and haven't found many videos with bad soundtracks! Keep up the work bud.
Ayy go sharks
Go sharks!
Keep up the good work Rob love your content as always 💯💯
Rob talks hockey is a staple in my house. Thank you for the awesome content my guy, keep up the awesome work!
Thank you! That means a lot.
Imagine if the Canes kept Fox, they would have the best blueline since the '07 Ducks.
Definitely would’ve taken a lot of convincing cause it sounded like Fox wanted the NYR and nowhere else but yeah would’ve been such a great d-core
The Flames could've had Gio Brodie Fox Hamilton Anderson and Hamonic
Nothing will ever top Lindros refusing to play for the Nordiques
Great video as always Rob, keep up the great work!
Lmfao love these nhl friends bits my guy 😂😂🙏🔥 great editing and humour is on point indefinitely 😂😂😂👏👏
I used to not like watching your videos but now I do. What a happy surprise, good job rob you made a fan.
Love your content, Rob. Keep it up!
Pavel Bure was my favorite player growing up, it's criminal what they did to him but those highlights really took me back
I forget what happened after the Sharks drafted Ray Whitney back in 1991. But he couldn’t return to his junior team and had to go play in Germany and the independent IHL while waiting to reach an agreement.
Yooo rob, it’s Josh from the flames game! That rangers game was awesome, great atmosphere and the called back goal was unreal 😂😂love the content my guy
My favorite was Kevin Hayes with the hawks. Chose to go for a bunch of money in his entry level deal(bonuses) and ended up losing out on a cup because he didn't want to compete for a roster spot in Chicago
I feel like teams should get some sort of compensation if the drafted player doesn’t want to play
Lindros did it
I disagree. The draft is a risk. MANY players have been drafted and never make the NHL, should the teams get compensation for those too?
@@chrisw.p5665 when did he say that? Of coarse not 🤦♂️
@@gordanblansky7137 I’m simply saying that it’s the same idea. Just because a player chooses to not report to the team that drafted them doesn’t mean they team should be given compensation. The tens have interviews with the players and agents before the draft, they have an good idea if the player doesn’t want to be there.
They do if they're higher draft picks I think first rounders get a 2nd rounder as compensation.
thanks for the video rob !
This video is awesome because we always say “it’s more than just a game” in a positive connotation but it is just more than a game and there’s people’s lives at play so it is ultimately their choice, look at pronger leaving Edmonton for his wife and what not. I never played pro or anything but I always played competitive so anyways I had moved away from my small hometown when I was 12 and obviously didn’t know anyone when I moved out here, so I just signed up for hockey and went in blind. Well lucky for me I met an amazing coach, Rob, and played for him for the next two years. 3 or 4 years down the road have met tons of people out here and I end up running into the same coach at evaluations. I remember just having a real good talk with him and told him I was gonna play for him no matter what division he was coaching. Well, draft comes around and I get a call from the div 1 team and I ask if he coach’s with Rob, no dice so I thank him for the offer and we move on. Same thing with the Div 2 coach and this time this coach is not very happy when the call ends so I kinda felt bad. Not even a minute goes by and I get a call from Rob and we ended up winning the championship that year.
that flames and rangers game was so fun to watch as a flames fan
i hope he gets booed there for his entire career
@@aidendoig4542 🤣🤣salty flames fan
@@bkyerrrr he deserves it
@@aidendoig4542 why cause he rather play in new york ?
@@bkyerrrr yes
Pavel bure was one of the most insane stick handlers ever. I’m so glad my dad loved him so I actually got to watch him play
This video is gunna get you a lot of viewers. Nice job
Jonathan Drouin and his agent decided that he wanted to be traded from the Tampa Bay Lightning in 2016 and refused to report for his Syracuse Crunch assignment to pressure Stevie Y. That didn't go well for him, and it forced him to eventually play again. He was later traded to the Canadiens in 2017 for Mikhail Sergachev, which I think most would agree worked out well for Tampa.
Bure was easily the most explosive skater ever.
Great video! Only correction is Boston College is different than Boston University. Yeah I'm being that guy but even still great vid!
On the bright side, it looks like Tage Thompson is well on the way to becoming a superstar player for the Sabres
The best part about that flames game is the amount the flames destroyed rangers, then fox actually scored trying to silence the crowd…. It was disallowed 🤣🤣
It was a shame too because it was a beautiful goal
Eric Lindros is one of the more memorable ones... I still remember a classic call out of the refusal was done in the Game 1 intro of the 1996 Cup finals...
It happens at around 54 seconds into a video titled "Florida Panthers at Colorado Avalanche - Game 1 (1996 Stanley Cup Final) [COMPLETE COVERAGE]"... "Wasn't this the team you know who didn't want to play for?"
could you imagine how crazy dominant a Colorado/Quebec team would have been with Sakic Forsberg AND Lindros. Lets face it, Lindros was an idiot. Love em, but not the smartest dude.
@@theonlyone38who was the idiot Lindros or Philadelphia... the trade tree from that deal is ridiculous. The benefits Quebec/ Colorado got from trading him built that team, which included getting Forsberg in the initial trade.
Pegula fired Coach Lindy Ruff when he bought the team. We haven’t been to the playoffs since.
Love the perfect dark soundtrack in the background!
Let’s not forget how Tkachuk absolutely dismantled Shesterkin right as Flames fans were booing Fox
I see kinda see a pattern going on in Vancouver, giving their players bad contracts then trading them to Florida. Like louongo for example
For the Devils there was Mike Van Rym who we drafted in the 1st round but he didn’t have a long NHL career so it’s not like we missed out
Adding the AAV on the trade was a great detail in the video
Lol I was at the Flames game that they were booing Adam Fox 😂😂
Rangers' fan here. In a way, it's too bad that Fox signed with us. If he had signed with the Flames, he would have worn those red uniforms, and more people would see the similarity between Fox and The Crimson Chin. MAN, does Fox have a chin!
I am glad fox is not in Calgary . we all know that the eastern hockey writers gave him the norris because of their eastern bias , Calgary has fed on eastern teams so far this year 20 games in . 2 game total point this year between the strangers and flames is 10 -1 .
I don't know about you, seeing as he's 23 and our best player, I'm glad he wound up in New York.
@@redlion45 Fox is an amazing player, a key part of the Rangers, and I am super glad he's on our team. I'd be really pissed off if they hadn't signed him to his recent contract. I was just making a joke about his chin. I probably shouldn't have made fun of him. Adam, if you're reading this (like that would happen), I am super glad you're a Ranger, and I'm sorry I made fun of your chin.
I guess there are already enough videos about them but Patrick Roy and Eric Lindros are 2 huge stories that both helped the Nordiques / Avalanche in the end during the 90s
Crazy to think how close buffalo was to having both Mcdavid and draisaitl
It’s better for the universe that those 2 weren’t
wasted on Buffalo
@@brianhum8765 they were wasted on edm tho😂
@@adamw3916 I mean Edm is a perennial playoff team now and could make the moves to be a serious playoff team. Buffalo is comparatively on a different planet they're that much further away.
@@brianhum8765 dude the Calgary Flames have more playoff wins in Edmontons new arena than Edmonton and its like 5 years old.
@Brian Hum they technically were wasted on Edmonton up until they began carrying the team on their backs
It’s funny how you detail what happened to Bure in Vancouver. Almost nobody in Vancouver actually knows the real details. I was a huge fan and never heard a peep about this during his time in Vancouver. It was never said in the media at the time, and all the hockey talk shows in town insinuated Bure was a spoiled brat and prima donna.
Worst of all was the story told to media that Bure threatened management to sit out during the 1994 playoffs if his contract demands weren’t met.
One can only presume the real problem was that the team wasn’t prepared to spend the sort of money Bure could demand, and would prefer to risk the disaster that unfolding rather than reach deeper into their pockets and be blamed for losing him. I hope more people become aware of what really happened.
On a side note, how the hell could Bure’s agent not notice the contract was in CA dollars and not US dollars?? Bizarre.
Ottawa Drafted a Goalie first round in 98... or tried to he didn't sign . 2 years later they tried drafting him again in 2nd round 🤣
3:53 Name the team that was willing to give up a franchise piece for Eichel... the whole point of acquiring him is to increase your chances of winning the Cup, so it makes little sense to send a franchise piece from your core back to Buffalo in the process... especially given the injury concerns
Thanks for the shirt in the background
for some reason I knew you would put Bure as #1 lol also push the like button for Rob! He puts out quality content every week and it only takes a fraction of a second to do so
Damn Vancouver that is some Melnyk level penny pinching,
That game was so awesome. I was fortunate enough to be at the game. From the opening pick drop, I was booing at the top of my lungs from the nose bleeds lol. One of the best games I’ve ever seen. 6-0 flames Dub!
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Awesome content! Much love
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Just wanted to mention, love the shirt you have hung up in the back.
1:25 Actually, in hindsight, the O'Reilly is looking quite good for the Sabres... they have a 24 year old, 6'7 center in Tage Thompson who has 44 points in 57 games this season compared to O'Reilly putting up 39 points in 56 games this season...
If you think Tage Thompson is better than O’Reilly is you dont know hockey. O’Reilly won a cup as arguably the best player. Dont tryn make that trade seem good lol
@@alecmoore6955 If you think I said Thompson is better than O'Reilly, you lack reading comprehension...
Damn that Goldeneye track in the background is so nice!
I would like my background ambient sound shaken up not spinning me right around baby right around like a record baby right around right round!
I like your stuff and you don’t push the likes I’ll give you a like your stuff is great!
Throughout my childhood the Buffalo Sabres were the bane of the Eastern Conference with great players like Mike Peca, Miroslav Satan, Mike Grosek, Stu Barnes and a line up of heavy hitters like Barnaby, Rob Ray all backed up by Dominick Hasek. That team was a perennial playoff contender.
Throughout my childhood as well….Gilbert Perrault, Pierre Turgeon, Pat LaFontaine, Alex Mogilny, Dale Hawerchuk, Phil Housley, Tom Barrasso, Hasek, Puppa, sauvè….the list goes on….but believe it or not Buffalos best chance to win a cup was in 1993….we had a major powerhouse squad with Mogilny, LaFontaine, Hawerchuk, Andreychuk….in the second round Hrant Fuhr got hurt and we had an unknown Hasek on the bench….we rushed to get Fuhr back instead.
@@vektacular Leafs Best chance was 93 too great ride god damn Wayne Gretzky and Kerry Fraser.
@@toddpick8007 woulda been an Amazing matchup…Dougy Gilmore had a great year in 93….plus Norris division leafs fans coming from Toronto to memorial auditorium….wow!!
@@vektacular Woulda been solid, im still pissed we were denied a Leafs vs Canadiens final because of it.
Mad respect to the orange shirt hanging in the background buddy 👌🏽
I literally have no clue why you don’t have anymore subs you should be famous
Bure and Odjick are still good friends to this day. Whenever Bure visits Vancouver he stays at Odjick's place in South Vancouver.
It happened a long time ago, but im surprised Eric Lindros refusing to play for Québéc isn't on here
The Golden Eye 64 theme song is a very odd choice for a hockey video.
It isn't odd because HOCKEY IS A VIOLENT KILLER BLOODY TEAM PLAYER GAME! (even with less fighting and less checking). There is a lot of shooting, slashing and beatings involved!
As for Jack Eichel, his value in the trade must have been impacted by his physical condition. After the surgery and rehabilitation, there is no 100% guarantee that he will be back playing at the same level as he did before. This IMHO explains the return from the Sabres.
Eichel never really got the chance to get healthy after this last neck injury. The Sabres kept pushing him back to the lineup before he was 100%.
Hahaha looking back on this video, ROR trade aged beautifully, Tage Thompson is a beast. Jeff Skinner isn’t close to the worst contract anymore
Adam Fox is a very good player for my Rangers. That Pavel Bure deal was unreal. Surprised he didn’t have his agent retired.
love the james bond music in the background
The eichel trade was acc good for buffalo cuz they got a winger with elite potential in krebs and a solid top 6 guy in tuch. They also got a 1st and 2nd rounder which are very valuable now, especially since vegas isn't a playoff team anymore. Eichel made their team worse, they went 14-14-1 when they were playing him compared to having a winning record and being a top 2 team in the pacific. Vegas just got a 3rd and a crybaby. Jack Eichel also wanted out of Buffalo and everyone knew it, they just didn't have a ton of leverage, so for their situation, I think they did pretty good.
Rob talks hockey, and talks about it good
I remember Cal Peterson pulling the same move on Buffalo that Vesey did
I had the opportunity to talk candidly to Brian Burke years ago. Burke took over from Pat Quinn who did not honor a clause in his contract stemming from the 94-95 lockout that Quinn/Ownership would not honour. Festered for a few years to the point Bure said that's it, no pay no play. Burke said he tried to talk him back but it was too caustic a situation by then. Pat Quinn supposedly blew the Gretzky deal as well by trying to strong arm #99, Gretzky was having no part of that and signed with the Blues. So as much as I liked Pat Quinn he screwed us out of more Pavel Bure and having Gretzky. Imagine those 2 together.
I don’t think people realize the cost if Buffalo retained, if it was only 2 mill a year that’s 10 mill over the 5 remaining and I doubt a first round pick is worth 10 mill especially from a competitive team (most likely 20th or later pick)
I'm a preds fan. I have had too much pain from players not wanting to play. Vesey and Radulov have both destroyed my mental health.
Jack got validated with a cup too.
Lol, I was actually at that game, it was so funny to hear!
I was at that game flames vs rangers
N64 James Bond Theme LMAOOO
Likely gonna be in the 25-32 range? That didn’t age well☠️
is that the perfect dark theme song in the background?
Lol is that the 007 Nintendo music , 😆
Rob: and let’s not mention that the 1st round pick vegas gave would be 25th to 30th overall
Vegas: proceeds to miss the playoffs
Damn! I never knew about Bure's contract! Bure was GOD lol
You are overating how simple eichels recovery is. Its not at all a guarantee he returns to form. Return to mobility rate is 87%, most surgeries its 95-99%. He could technically just get the fusion if the disc replacement that he got doesnt work but movement will never fully recover at that point.
Problem is the neck fusion is basically borrowed time. He would have to retire after 6 or 7 years at most. With the disk replacement, he has a better chance of having a longer career. Neck fusion would also limit his head mobility too since turning his head with a fused spine is rather difficult
3:50 the 2023 1st round pick on Buffalo’s side is missing a space making it look like 20221st
The return for Fox in the trade to New York is a little inaccurate. Carolina traded the 2019 2nd to Ottawa (who drafted Sogaard) but they themselves turned that into another 2nd and a 3rd that become Jamieson Rees and Antoni Honka.
The fact you went to Bure but not Lindros was a pleasant surprise
1:25 - Hindsight... the Ryan O'Reilly trade was the Sabres getting the best player!
Eric Lindros: I will NEVER play for the Quebec Nordiques!
Quebec Nordiques: Okay then, we understand.
*Quebec later that day*
Nordiques: "Hello New Jersey, can we speak to Scott Stevens please?"
Which player is your man? Your guy? Your dude? Apparently, all of them! 😜🤪🤣
cant beleive he didnt mention patrick roy
The O'Reilly trade aged pretty well for the fact that they got Tage Thompson lol.
NBA draft Steve Francis that goof screwed the grizzlies
I'm sitting here wondering where I'm hearing Goldeneye music and realize it's in this damn video.
I’m very much enjoying Vesey on the Devils rn
Columbus: Too many to recall 🤔 Jeff Carter stands out.
I'm pretty sure Ottawa drafted mads sogaard in 2019 according to capfriendly.
It was with a pick they got from Carolina. I don't remember the exact transaction where Ottawa got the pick... though I guess that puts Ottawa on the Adam Fox trade tree... odd...
Let’s not forget about Pierre Luc Dubois refusing to play which ended up him getting traded to winnepeg
Thomas Vanek played good for buffalo but always sucked for austria, fucked up at the quarterfinals by sending the team drinking