Ford 7.3 Godzilla engine failure - camshaft and lifter delamination
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- Ford 7.3 Godzilla engine failure discussion. Delamination of camshaft and lifter causing widespread engine failures? Lifter roller failure? What percentage of the 7.3 engines have experienced this problem between 30,000 and 40K miles? Super Duty engine. Diesel vs gas? 6.2 Boss, 7.3 Godzilla, 6.7 Powerstroke? Camshaft fail! #godzilla7.3 #enginefailure #godzilla #fordtrucks #superduty #camshaft #lifter #purplecollarlife #truck
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I'm an EMT and my company bought a bunch of new F-350 ambulances to replace our out of date and horribly inefficient ford V10s. My 2021 F350 7.3 V8 Ambulance has over 100k miles as of 3/1/23 with almost no issues besides a catalytic clog. It's been ran to the ground with medics testing its guts by red-lining the hell out of it in 100+ degree weather, popping it into neutral and then back into drive at 60 MPH, and redlining while still cold in -5 degree weather, time after time. This is the best engine ford has made thus far. Take that for what you will.
Thanks @Pio - this is great to hear! Real-world use is the best type of actual comments that I like to see. Sounds like your team has put the truck/engine through the ringer and it's holding up as advertised. Thanks for sharing.
That sounds insane. Why would they do that to the ambulance?
How often do your ambulances go in for service?
Hi guys, Im a Truck Mechanic at a Local Ford Dealership. From January 2023 to May 2023 i have replaced a total of 4 of those 7.3L Log Blocks for the same concern. I have only worked on 4 vehicles with that engine and all had to be replaced after teardown inspection. So far Ford has not issued anything regarding a known issue with this engine, but every time i request the new Longblocks they arrive pretty quick, like if they are expecting this to happen. Nice video and great info man.
Thanks for watching and leaving the comment. It's nice to have some inside information from you - someone who is seeing it first hand at the dealership. We really appreciate you letting us know. Keep us posted as you see/hear more.
I understand first year issues but still in 2022 and 2023??!
We just blew engine number 3 on ours and it’s back in the dealer for engine number 4. We only have 51,000 miles on it.
On engine number 3 just got it back yesterday 85k
Nice (and I would say fair) review. I have a 2022 F250 Lariat with the 7.3 and have towed my 9K lb travel trailer over 24,000 miles, from the Midwest to the East Coast, to the Gulf Coast, to Arizona. I have not been over the Colorado Rockies yet but that is coming. Great truck, great engine, and the transmission has done a great job of maintaining speeds both up hill and down hill with the cruise control activated. The 2% failure rate from the cam and lifter problems is certainly something to keep an eye on but its my understanding the majority of those failures have been in commercial vehicles that idle a lot. I have experienced about 9.5 to 10 MPG while towing and about 16 MPG at highway speeds while not towing. In town I see about 10 MPG. However, considering the diesel is $8K more to purchase, has higher maintenance costs and only gets about 3 MPG better millage while towing, I think its a no brainer to go with this engine when you are towing less than 14K lbs
Thanks for sharing your experience! I agree entirely with the thought that unless you're towing daily and towing heavy - the 7.3 gas engine is a better option than a diesel (any brand).
Good to know cause I just bought a 9000lb trailer and glad to see it’s preforming. I got the 2023 F250 Lariat and will be traveling the same places. I didn’t buy gas because it was cheeper but but because of several of past experiences of not being able to find diesel when traveling and didn’t want to deal with def anymore either.
Normally I just thank the person who posted the video but thank you very much for this reply as well. I'm in the process of trying to decide on one that's available in Pennsylvania about 1100 miles from my house which puts the gas bill at around $2,000 just to get it back down to Houston. Pouring through all the comments to find if anyone actually has these delamination issues or if it's so uncommon that it's not even worth bothering with. I really don't want to buy a diesel because if I do I'm absolutely going to have to delete it so there will be my daily driver. I'm not going to deal with the problems that follow a non deleted daily driver. I've been there, done that and I'm not going to be broken down on the side of the freeway again just because of a darn sensor.
F650 bought last September. Currently with 54k miles and no issues so far.
Thanks for sharing! Good to hear another positive report.
I've got a 2022 Super Duty with the 7.3, just had my first oil change at the dealership at 3,000 miles. So far I've had no issues. I ordered it new, waited 10 months to get it, so far, I'm very happy with it. Thanks for putting your time in on this, I will follow along and add input if I have any. I got it to tow my toy hauler and boat, prior to this I've had 3 or 4 F-150's and the toy hauler seemed just a bit to heavy for them. Feels much better / safer towing it now.
Thanks for sharing! I'm sure you'll continue to appreciate the difference between the Super Duty and the F150 when towing.
I'm real happy with mine. I just turned 10,000 miles on it yesterday. It does what I need. It hauls my tractor just fine. And it sound real good when I mash on it! I ran diesels for over 20 years and I ain't looking back!
Good to hear!
4mpg probably as well lol
Its really informative information to those owners not yet affected. For those that purchased a faulty truck, it’s all encompassing!
Thanks! We tried to make an informative video. We are one of those owners who love the truck - but also don't want to have to worry about this potential issue. I'm hearing less about it now - so I think it was just a lot of press/talk over a few isolated issues.
I have a 2020 F250 with the 7.3, with 28,000 miles on it. I use it to pull a 7,000 pound travel trailer. I've pulled the tailer approximately 2,000 thousand miles along the east coast NY, Del, NC, and Massachusetts. When not doing that it's used around town. I haven't had any problems. I maintain it better than the manual calls for. I am very happy with it. I like your video, I am gonna watch more of them....
We're glad you enjoyed the video! Thank you for sharing your truck experience and thanks for checking out our other videos.
Good video. My 3 F350 with the 7.3 have not had any issues and all 3 have well over 40,000 miles. I'm not saying the problem doesn't exist but so far I haven't had that problem. 🙂
That's good to hear! Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for the video, I'm waiting to take delivery of the exact same truck in a 2023. Not going to lie, it does make me nervous and its something I'll have to watch. BUT, I know RAM had similar issues with both the 5.7 and 6.4 HEMI gas engines so, I mean what the heck can you do? walk everywhere?.. Really appreciate your time and effort on these videos. Good luck.
I think we're going to find that it's a lot of excitement over nothing. Thanks for watching!
Hey You would think they taken care of these issues by now on all manufacturing brands with cam, lifter issues
Another great video! Just like the old Fram oil filter commercials used to say pay me now or pay me later
Great point!
Great video. Exactly the info and review I was looking for
Glad it was helpful!
Good video! I own a 2021 F350 Lariat, it has 56,435 miles on it. Daily driver and has not had any problems so far,🤞🏻I too have Ford do 100% of the service. I change the oil at 5k religiously. So far so good!
Thanks for sharing!
I have the 7.3 in my 2020 F350. Still runs great, sounds great and after I heard about this potential problem I have started cutting open my oil filters. It have yet to find any early signs of failure.
Great to hear! Thanks for sharing.
Great video 21 7.3 11k no issues. So far when I pull the dip stick it's the cleanest oil I have ever seen even close to change time. I'm not going to worry about it. I saw the box truck video.
Good stuff! I agree - the oil is consistently clean and clear.
I have a 2022 with 31k. Super happy, no issues, many advantages over the new diesels. Pulls trailers weighing 10-15k regularly.
Every time I drive it, especially towing - I'm amazed. But even on long road trips empty, it's still an amazing truck. czcams.com/video/SvPcL6s2yNk/video.html
2022 F-350 DRW w/ 7.3 chassis cab here with 63k miles. No problems or noises this far. About time for front brakes and all 6 tires, but that’s it.
Thanks! That's great to hear. I'd say those OEM brakes and tires did pretty good to last 63,000 miles!
I'm sad to say this but we brought this on ourselves. Car buyers have lowered their standard immensely in the last decades, you guys will pay whatever ridiculous amount if it looks nice, has fancy tech and "power" that most of you never really use. I remember a friend being "brand disappointed" that his car failed after 10 years although being regularlly maintained. In Europe we used to keep them for 15-20 years. Now people make 10k miles reviews praising the car for being sooo reliable :))
I can't say I disagree. I wish we would/could have kept our old vehicles longer. I had a 1983 Ford Bronco that was my favorite vehicle ever. Unfortunately, things just don't last forever and have to be replaced with newer models eventually. Even though I loved that 1983 Bronco - the frame was rusting through (our PA winters with salt hurt the steel), the body was nearing the point of not passing our annual state vehicle inspections. And we like the safety features of the new vehicles to keep our family safe. That old Bronco had no anti-lock brakes, no air bags - not even shoulder seat belts in the rear seats. It didn't even have headrests in the front seats (which can prevent severe neck injuries). So while the Bronco lasted me a long time - we needed to upgrade. And while we liked lots about our 17 year old 2005 F350, that diesel engine was so problematic it wasn't worth keeping (soaking more money into).
I have owned my 95 Dodge Cummins for 24 years, can't find enough reasons to replace probably the best diesel powered truck ever made!
I already found a easy solution. Before the 36k bumper-to-bumper warranty is up buy a factory extended for powertrain. It doesn't cost that much. That's what I'm going to do.
My 2000 BMW 528i is still running awesomely. I do nearly all the MX and repair and in 100k, there have been very few. My '99 4Runner is similarly reliable with 188K on the clock.
@@melissasmess2773 The 12 valve in my '83 Chevy is insanely reliable. Best diesel ever put in a pickup.
I hope it is just a bit of a fluke with the engine. I have the 2003 F250 6.0 Diesel. I had issues to say the least. I spent the money and had it fixed. She is still running. Only has 70K. As for the tow hooks, chrome is not what chrome use to be. Try a little chrome polish. I did that on my front bumper and it did clean up fairly nice. I agree with you that you will have it serviced at the dealership to ensure you do not have any warranty issues. Great video, beautiful truck.
Thanks for watching! That's certainly low miles on a 2003 6.0 Powerstroke. When ours ran, it ran great! Lots of power and great performance. But when it wasn't running - it was so frustrating.
Thanks for the video on the Godzilla. I have a 2017 F350 with the 6.7 Diesel. Despite only 34k miles or light duty use, the maintenance costs for it are alarming, especially for the DPF system. What I've read about the oil pump is also alarming. Selling it to get a newer F350 with the 7.3 gas engine is tempting, as long as I'm not just trading one set of problems for another. P.S. The rust on the tow hooks may well be because they were not plated from end to end, but held only partially immersed in the electroplating fluid.
I'd take my old black painted tow hooks back any day!
All the problems and maintenance with the diesel are exactly why we decided to skip it in this truck. AND - the 7.3 certainly has the power that we need for our towing excursions. I just hope it holds up as long as it should. I could see this engine going 500,000 miles due to it's basic simplicity if the components are all up to spec and routine maintenance is performed.
18729 miles. 2022 super duty. I just recently heard about this and it has me bummed completely out. I needed this video to help talk me in off the ledge. Thanks!! Fingers crossed we’ll see how this goes.
You're being mind controlled with basically zero real data.
Glad to help. We're all just waiting to either confirm that we made a great decision with a truck that is reliable and impressive - or we made a mistake buying a truck/engine manufactured during a pandemic and counting on the dealership to take care of us. I truly believe that it's not as large an issue as what people are making it sound online.
Thanks @Dustin Marshall
I've got 20k on my 2021 F250 and no problems so far. Towed 8 times last year. 6 camping trips and 2 big loads of top soil in my utility trailer. I change my oil myself every 5 k miles and it always looks clean. I'm 59 and this is my 7th new Ford truck I've owned. I've had a V6 Ranger, a straight 6 F150, two 5.4 V8's, two 5.0's and now the 7.3. Knock on wood, but I've never had any engine issues with any of them. Maybe it could happen this time but hopefully not. Good luck to all of us!
Thanks for sharing! You've had lots of great Ford vehicles. That straight 6 Ford 300 engine is my favorite all-time. Tons of torque and very reliable. I had the 300 in my 1983 Ford Bronco. I also had a couple Broncos with the 351 Windsor engine. They were great too.
I think maintenance is the key to success with vehicles. But any thing can happen.
2022 F250 7.3L 4.30 rear end.
12,000 miles on it with no issues 30% of that was towing a 10,000lbs enclosed trailer from CA to KY and back. Love the motor and love how it drives in tow/haul, don’t like the skipping gears in normal mode around town but I didn’t buy it for that anyway! I did hear a loud clunk just sitting at a light in town once that made me wonder but rpms stayed constant and felt no drive ability effects so I will check the oil at next oil change. Did first oil change at 8000mi and everything looked good. 9-11mpg around town 12.5-16 on highway (traffic, cruise speed, and incline dependent) 8-10mpg towing(sometimes more sometimes less depending on grades, head winds, and cruising speed)
Thanks for sharing! We're waiting on our second oil analysis - to see how the numbers turned out this time.
Excellent research on the engine. Thanks.
Thank you! I do always do my research before talking about a topic.
Im one of those with a failed lifter in a pickup, truck is all stock, started ticking around 10,000 miles and got real bad at 20,000 miles. My local dealer replaced the long block at 25,000 miles. No questions asked. Ford is well aware of the problem. My local dealer said they had a bunch of ambulances and motorhomes with failed lifters but my truck was the first pickup that they had done. whole body has to come off of the frame on a lift, etc....
Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm sorry to hear that your truck is one I've got to make the tally mark in the failure column. Good to know that Ford took care of it though.
How did you know they were failing? Engine light or could you feel it?
I could audibly hear the ticking under load, which as stated got louder and louder.@@Deep_South
Sorry to hear about the gasser 7.3. My old 97 Exploder with a 302 had over 200k and was solid as a rock.
The classic 302 was a good engine. So was the straight 300 -6, and the 351 V8
People are surprised when I tell them the 2017 Ford Transit 250 I drive has 224,000 miles on the original motor and transmission.
Here is another one we've done f450, this was a bad bad failure -
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Thanks for sharing! Glad you found our video.
I have a 2020 F250 with the 7.3 l godzilla with a little over 36,000 miles, so far no issues keeping my fingers crossed!
Keep us posted! This is really good to hear.
@@PurpleCollarLife 10-4 will do!
My 2021 F250 with the 7.3 has 39k on it with 1/3 of the miles towing a camper and so far the only issues we’ve experienced have been the plug wire fail and a small oil leak from the rear main oil seal plate.
Thanks for sharing!
2022 F350 Platinum Godzilla... purchased used in January 2023 with 2700 miles. Currently has a tick over 5K miles. No issues. Love the truck. As solid as an Amish table and pulls like a team of draft horses.
Thanks!
Wow 5k miles! Amazing.
Sorry I responded.
Was the tick that intake runner control module?
Or is that only on our 6.2l?
I meant just a little over 5k miles. Sorry.
2020 F250 with 71k miles. No issues currently. I have PremiumCare warranty till 150k miles.
Good luck with yours man. I hope it problem free for you.
Great job with the extended warranty to 150,000 miles! That's awesome.
So far so good with ours. We still love the truck.
i have a 2020 f350 with the 7.3 48000 miles currently in the shop getting a camshaft replaced. glad its under warranty
Thanks for letting us know. I'm glad it's under warranty. But it's still very unfortunate that this is occurring with an engine that really should be a long-lasting design. A few bad components are destroying what I think is otherwise a good design.
What symptoms did you have?
What were your symptoms
2021 F250 7.3 49950 miles no issues. I bought a 2004 F350 6.0 diesel new had it 18 yrs just sold it . Had several problems it was a great truck but no more diesel for me. The 7.3 gas engine pulls as good as my diesel ever did. Love the new Godzilla engine and I pull heavy loads every week 8000 to 12000 lbs.
This is great and exactly what I've been hearing from others! I agree- we don't regret switching from the 6.0 to the Godzilla 7.3. We do miss some aspects of the 2005 F350 - but not that engine.
I'm coming from an 06 6.0 diesel bulletproofed 2 years ago now it's broke down saying possibly valve springs or needs new motor smh I'm over diesel been a money pit with my 6.0
Just a thought on seeing if metal is in the oil by looking at the dipstick. If you could see it on the dipstick -- I would bet Mains and Rod Bearings are spent, not to mention Cylinder Walls and Pistons. I believe oil analysis is your best route to go.
Great point. I’ve just requested some Blackstone testing kits to send oil away at each oil change.
@@PurpleCollarLife I have used Blackstone for several years...maybe 10...and I think it's a good piece of mind. Each Superduty I've owned has had oil analysis done at oil changes.
@@PurpleCollarLife best thing is oil analysis you will catch the wear sooner than later.Use synthetic oil and change it often 3500/4000 miles oil and filters are cheep!
@@andrewslagle1974 Agreed. I'm planning on 3000-4000 miles between oil changes.
Awesome video! Any idea IF the cab absolutly has to come off to do the replacement on the cams or lifters or can this actually be done from the top end on the 7.3 gasser? I can turn wrenches and have a pretty decent shop at home but do not have a lift to remove the cab if I ever need to or want to.
This is a great question. I'm not positive. I do know that on our previous Super Duty - with the Powerstroke diesel - the cab had to come off several times for engine work.
I bought my 2022 F250 with the 7.3L Nov. of 2021 and it only has 6K miles. No issue with camshaft delamination yet and I would not expect any with such low mileage. However, during the end of the winter what sounds like the fan clutch got very loud upon start up for 2-3 minutes then disappeared after warm up. Normal? Also, once the truck is hot and at idle, I have started hearing a low knocking from the p/s front lower engine area. I found Ford has a Service Bulletin SSM 50830 for "Some 2020-2022 F-Super Duty Vehicles equipped with a 7.3L engine." They state a "ticking/clicking/tapping" noise in the front of the engine may appear due to a cracked oil pump drive gear. I don't know if that is the cause but it's possible. It doesn't happen all the time so hard to bring it back to the dealer when nothing is heard. I changed the oil after the first 500 miles and then every year even if under 3K. The oil does not have metal glitter that can be seen.
Would have to be laminated to de-laminate, that failure mode is called spalling.
It's a fatigue failure that initiates below the surface of the material and creates a small crack that then propagates and causes a piece of material to spall or flake off
Thanks! I'm not sure why the web is referring to it as delaminating. But you're right - it's better described as spalling.
Just to many experts jumping on the band wagon
Literally did not help anyone by chiming in with your wording change while the OP is helping hundreds or thousands of people by taking the time to post a video on this possibly overstated "issue".
Only 10300 miles on my 22f250 bought it brand new and no issues at all with this truck. we love it ! heard it was the cab and chassis trucks that were having this problem but you know some people just love to complain . been a ford guy all my life and im not worried, been plenty of all the brands having a plethora of issues. nothing new.
That's what I've heard too - the cab and chassis trucks. But I wonder if they put different components in those engines - or if those applications are different running conditions. Thanks for watching! I'm hopeful it's much ado about nothing!
Hay PCL. I have a Ford F350 2021 with 44,000 miles on it. At 41,000 miles my check engine light came on while on my way from Michigan to Phoenix. I made an appointment at Bell Ford in Phoenix. They quickly diagnosed the problem as a delaminated Lifter. That damaged the cam. They repaired my engine replacing the cam and all lifters along with all of the other necessary items. It runs fine now. Covered by the 5 year 60,000 mile warranty. Personally I think this is all related to Covid quality issues. I am however concerned about the likelihood of another failure relating tho this issue. I have written Ford customer service on this and not heard back yet. The Technician at Bell Ford said this is the third one of these he has seen.
I use my truck to haul my Truck Camper and pull my boat.
Thanks for your information.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Glad to hear they fixed the problem without issue. AND - that it did not require an entire new block.
Could you feel any problems or just the light
I'm thinking of buying a 2021 E450 with 35k that got a new engine (at Ford's expense) about 5k ago. Is there any info on whether the issues have been fixed on these new engines? Or will the same fault probably reoccur in 30-50k?
2021 f650 7.3 gas rollback towtruck with 80,000 miles, only problems I've had is sparkplug wires, other than that it's been perfect and I'm not easy on it
Thanks for sharing!
Having the dealership change your oil? Might be useful to have maintenance records in their shop when you have to threaten to sue to get warranty work done. Otherwise, I can not imagine not doing my own oil changes.
I've done my own oil changes most of the time with all our other vehicles (several of them we've made videos of on the channel). But with this newer truck/engine - I thought it would be wise to let the dealership do them for a while. Plus - it's often included with the purchase, so you might as well take advantage of the included ones.
I have a 2020 f250 lariat I bought brand new in December of 2020. I just rolled it over to 20k miles on Sunday 2/12/23. I have had a couple of things replaced on mine. The first thing was my driveshaft at around 14k miles, and at 18k my torque converter and fly wheel were replaced. I had a driveline vibration that the torque converter and flywheel fixed. Now even with the issues I have had the dealership has been great to me. On another note I am currently waiting on 2 new chrome running boards as mine are bubbling pretty bad. One came in a couple months ago, and they are still waiting on the other one. They don’t seem to hold up well to upstate NY salty roads apparently.
I'm really happy to hear that even though your truck had some issues, Ford has taken care of the problems. As far as the chrome - I think our salt is so harsh on the vehicles. I often wonder if we'd be better off not salting the roads as much and going back to ash and sand.
Speaking of rusty tow hooks. My 2022 was delivered in September and I just noticed the rust too. No salt exposure in our are just de-icing chemicals.
Chris - thanks for checking! I think that's unacceptable. In a salted area or a non-salted area - these tow hooks (designed to be attachment points for straps and chains) should not be getting surface rusting like this.
Ford urgently needs to bring back the 300ci inline 6-cylinder.. .
My favorite all-time engine!
I'm thinking the valvetrain is related to low oil pressure at idle. This would cause excess lash. The 7.3 has a variable demand oil pump. This would make sense why there are more issues with fleet vehicles. Fleet vehicles start in the morning and shut off till there back in the barn.
That’s exactly what I’m wondering. Thanks!
Very well presented thanks 👍👍
So nice of you
I have about 15,700 miles on my 2020 F-250 Lariat. No issues of any kind yet. It’s primarily used for towing our 32’ travel trailer. I will get an oil sample and send it off to Blackstone Lab just to ensure there’s no issues lurking before it goes out of warranty.
Good to hear that you haven't had any issues either. What is your trailer weight? Just curious.
I took my sample from the oil change just yesterday. I'm sending it to Blackstone lab too. Thanks for the comment!
Thanks for sharing. I have been on the fence as to weather I would upgrade from my 2015 6.2l to the 7.3l. Other than regular maintenance the two 6.2l F-250's I have owned have been rock solid, with more than enough power for our use. I think you may be right about the internet blowing the issue out of proportion, but for me it's still a potential deal breaker, at least for the first couple years of production. That being said, any first gen engine runs the risk of a failures. I am fairly certain that Ford has quietly corrected that issue on newer models of the 7.3's.
I'm going to test drive a 7.3 CC dump today. Thinking about trading in my 2015 dump with the 6.2 , trucks been great too
i also heard ford is outing the 6.2 and replacing it with a 6.8 gas
@@rws99l I haven't looked into the 6.8. That may be a good option as well.
Thanks for watching! So far, we’re really happy with the 7.3. Lots of pulling power. I have lots of friends with the 6.2 who wouldn’t trade them for the 7.3 though - just because they really like the 6.2
What did you decide?
I'm right at 5k miles with my 7.3L. I have noticed this problem coming up more lately. I bought the 100k mile service contract when I bought this thing though. Fingers crossed but I'm not going to lose sleep over it regardless of what happens. I did an oil change at 2500 miles and will probably do another one early. Makes me feel better.
I'm right with you, I changed at 3K, and will every 5K regardless if I'm towing, or unloaded. I plan on getting the ESP through Flood Ford soon, but waiting until the dealership tries to fix a couple nuisance issues first. For some reason the Ford app says my truck is in deep sleep mode to conserve battery power because it' says it's low even from day one. The charging pad for my phone while it lights up, does not actually charge, and my rear seat 400w AC outlet does not work.
@@niceatrya3477 mine did the deep sleep thing from day one. There's a software upgrade you can have done to the truck to prevent this but I haven't had time to take it in for it. There's a channel I follow up on here that gives you real repair experiences and he explained it in a video one day. Powerstroke tech talk w/ Arod
I usually don’t go for the extended warranties. But I was definitely glad to find a truck with the Ford Blue Oval Gold Certified used protections. I hope I never need it - but it’s nice to have in my back pocket.
@Nicea Trya - I had the deep sleep thing happen once. I had the truck sitting for about 14 days straight and it came up.
@@PurpleCollarLife that may have been legitimate. I knew mine was BS because I trickle charged my battery and drove the truck for 20 mins and the message came back. I knew that wasn't far enough to kill the battery that much. And then I later found it to be a nuisance message.
I have a Pressure Cleaning business and pull a trailer every day for the last 20years and always had a F150. Last year decided to change and get F250 with 25000 miles used with a factory warranty and at 31000 I just had a problem with cam shaft. has been in the shop for almost 2 months and is not ready.
2 months in the shop?!! Did they have a vehicle that they could loan you while it’s being repaired? That’s the worst when you need it for your livelihood.
Hey sir how do you think the 7.3 preforms towing your camper, have you towed through the mountains if so how did it preform ? Would really like to get the 23 7.3 to tow my camper so I don’t have all of the complexities of the 6.7
I feel like the 7.3 is comparable to our old powerstroke 6.0 engine. Feels like just about the same power. We haven't towed through any mountains yet - but we do have some steep grades here around home in the hills of PA. We don't miss the diesel complexity.
Had a 7.3 godzilla. The front main seal started leaking at 10k miles. At 18k they replaced my transmission due to weird noises inside. Sold it and got me a 2015 f350 diesel. I might revisit the 7.3 in the future but for now I'll let other people experiment with the new engine.
Thanks for sharing your experience! I'm glad they did replace the transmission and seem to have taken care of you. How do you like the diesel so far?
I have some weird noises also but they have yet to pinpoint where it's coming from.
I had 2006 F350 6.0 dually with 301,000 miles and it was an amazing truck. No problems, just normal wear, 4 of 8 injectors @ 148K, replaced all, no tranny service or issues etc. Although, I changed oil @ 3500k (most peeps thought that was excessive....not me). The only mod was EGR delete. Awesome truck, now I have the 2021 F-250 7.3, I hope it will be just as reliable, only time will tell but, I will be praying.
Thanks for sharing your experience with the 6.0! That’s great. There was a lot we really liked about our 2005 - but we just couldn’t get that 6.0 to work for us. We tried for 17 years - but couldn’t take any more. I think part of the problem was that we actually didn’t drive the truck regularly enough. You certainly did a lot of oil changes on that Powerstroke! That’s 15 quarts at a time! :) I hope you and I both have your good luck with these 7.3s!
Why didn’t you pick the proven, 6.2?
Same hear had x2 6.o f350s no problems ever delete egr at 50k for safety sake .Other than service work no problems over 200k towing hd for my excavation business.
How did you evade the epa with the egr delete?
Should've got the 6.7..........
I love Ford but they couldn't give one of these trucks. I would IMMEDIATELY trade it in for a powerstroke.
I am at 20600 miles on my 2022. I have had it since October of 21, and have had zero drivetrain issues to date.
Thanks! You’ve accumulated seat time pretty quickly.
I have a 2021 f350 godzilla 7.3L and I have 27458 miles on it and have had no issues I am very happy with the truck I pull a 14000 pound horse trailer with no problem
Thanks for sharing!
I've got 25k on my 22 F350 7.3 gas. I changed the oil myself at 1500, 3000 and every 4500 miles since. I use Motorcraft oil and Wix filter. I absolutely love the truck and the engine is nothing short of amazing. The internet forums are filled with complainers and people with way too much time on their hands and very little real world experience. They piss and moan about the super duty riding too stiff, the transmission isn't smooth enough and on and on. The people you never hear from are the guys out working long hours every day and putting 35,000 trouble free miles on their truck every year.
Exactly! Thanks.
I tow heavy weekly with my 2020 f250 7.3 , 60k miles, like you said its an amazing powerhouse that won't quit. The 10 speed tranny is very intelligent and you will notice most if your a weekly tow guy like me. I want another one.
Why are you using a semi syn. Oil ? Ford recommendation is bare minimum, not what's best .
Motorcraft oil is almost impossible to find where I'm at, so I run full synthetic Valvoline.
@berserker406my truck is doing fine 41k 2022 all driven by me and I drive it like I stole it! Especially when I found out how to unleash all the power thru the traction button.
I own 2, 7.3 's. 2020 F 550 xlt, 2022 F 350 xlt. Not a single problem with either so far. I am aware of the cam/lifter issue and some complaints about the 10 speed trans. But so far I have not had any issues at all with either truck.
thanks for sharing your experience!
I subscribed.... mainly because of the great presentation.
Thank you so much!
@@PurpleCollarLife btw, the chrome on the towhooks on my 2012 peeled off like a lizard after 10 yrs. It started like yours, then the chrome plating came off like aluminum foil. I just painted them black.
9500miles on 2022 f250 no issues yet love the truck.
Great report!
For the chrome tow hook, I'm sure there are aftermarket tow hooks you can buy and install that won't rust. I'd look for some that are powder coated. An off road shop would have them or online. They usually just bolt on. As for the engine issue, you're right about warranties. The warranty would cover any damage as long as the engine wasn't abused. If the problem were that widespread, I would think Ford would issue a recall. My thinking is it's happening on trucks that are driven hard and even abused. Such as regularly driving with the RPMs in the red zone, that will cause obvious damage. Or not changing the oil regularly. I'm leaning towards the latter. Some people just don't want to admit they abuse their equipment and want to blame everything on the design or manufacturer. Again, just my opinion as I don't own one myself. But I have worked in the auto service industry and have seen some of it firsthand with other vehicles. I worked for a local Cadillac dealer. Thanks for sharing Chad!
Thanks for your thoughts. That's exactly what I was thinking - a case of vehicles that are used commercially, driven often by people who don't actually own them, and ridden hard and put away wet. Like I said, I haven't met anyone firsthand who actually had this issue. But lots of people are talking about it.
Good idea on the bolt-on tow hooks. I'll probably replace them with black ones when it's time. I liked that look on our old truck.
Hi David. Unfortunately, a blown engine is not considered a safety concern, so the NTHSA isn't going to mandate a recall. Nor will Ford volunteer to do so.
tow hooks rusting? Meh. I'd probably wait and see what develops. If they did rust too much to tolerate I'd scuff them up with some sandpaper and hit them with a rattle can paint job - a good rusty metal primer and a flat black top coat. Might need touch up after use, but so do the aftermarket hooks. I suspect other than the cosmetics, the ford tow hooks are fine. I can't say the same for a lot of aftermarket hooks sold for cosmetics.
@@PurpleCollarLife clean with chrome cleaner and apply wD40 during winter months.
I agree on the oil quality! I never let it drop below 50% life which has me changing around 3500-4500 miles. I hit 41k miles yesterday all driven by me since day one towing light and heavy I've never had a problem. I've pulled apart many engines and I can tell who changed their oil often versus once a year.
I have 48k on my Godzilla. The engine has been great but unfortunately I'm having transmission issues with the 10R140. They're fixing it under warranty per TSB 21-2420.
Personally, I think Ford is playing games with the oil life /service interval recommendations. When my oil life hits 50% I start planning on changing it. My next oil change I'm going to send an oil sample in for analysis.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Sorry to hear about the transmission issue - but glad they're taking care of it.
Just change your oil every 5000 miles. It's cheap insurance. My 22 year old nissan frontier was serviced every 3000 and it was clean as a whistle inside when I changed the valve cover seals. I change the oil in my 2016 tundra at 5000, even though they call for 10,000 mile intervals.
That sucks Warren, I saw you on TFLT and I was wondering what the outcome was. I have the same truck, so I'm hoping I don't have this problem as well. 🤞
There is a tuner. Will be coming out soon for transmission only the guy designing it is the best in the business for the 10 speed to fix the issues with them not lasting..
Good points. One thing, I don’t think you should be seeing glitter in your dipstick since it would be caught by the oil filter? At least I don’t think?
Interesting point. I’m not sure if you would or not now. You’d think any particles would be picked up in the filter before the oil gets back down to the oil pan. So I’m thinking you’re right and even if there was a problem, you wouldn’t see evidence on the dip stick.
@@PurpleCollarLife yea I really don’t know, never thought about it until I saw your video. Lets not find out!😂
I’ve a 2021 E-450 cutaway on my 28ft motorhome with over 16K miles on it. 13.5K# GVW- never weighed it but probably around 10-11K# light. So not an everyday driver but it gets respectable amt. of use with a load on it when it does. Been through the Adirondacks, Great Smokies and Blue Ridge Mountains with it and the 7.3L gas moves it great. Oil changes every 5K and will look at getting oil analysis done at next change. I’ve never been a Ford guy but this vehicle so far has made me a fan. Hope that doesn’t change.
You’re living a great life! We hope to be able to travel more in the future. There is so much of this great country that we’d like to explore.
The 2% failure rate could be because of response bias. Those with failures are more likely to respond with the failures while those who have no problems will not respond as readily.
Good point.
So about the same situation as GM trucks with AFM lifters. Sell enough of them, have a 1 or 2% failure rate, and throw in some response bias and suddenly everyone on the internet is saying all the engines are junk and they're all going to have a lifter failure by xx,000 miles.
Most of the issues are blown out of proportion. Had a expedition from new to 10 years and 150k miles, never had a powertrain or cam phaser failure. Still ran great when traded in, cracks me up when people say the 5.4 sucked when I had no mechanical issues performing oil changes every 4-5k miles using Motorcraft synthetic blend oil changes at the dealer. Same with a 2019 3.5 ecoboost f150, no issues yet performing oil changes in a timely manner. I’m curious what oil the “delaminated” engines used, haven’t had a problem using Motorcraft, Castrol, or Amsoil in any Ford/ Lincoln product I’ve owned. If you maintain a vehicle under the moderate/severe service intervals in the owners manual you should have a relatively trouble free 150-200k miles on a vehicle.
Thanks for the comment. We’ve had the 5.4 in a F250 we had in 2019, and a 5.4 in our 2010 Ford Expedition. Neither engine gave us any trouble.
Same here. 2005 F150 fx4 5.4. Supposedly had all sorts of problems. Mot mine. I take care of it very well-change fluids religiously and i’ve run 93 octane since day 1. Just went over 202,000 miles. It was running just fine, but finally put a new timing kit on it last week. While I was in there I replaced the lifters and rockers (cams were fine), added hi-flow oil pump, new water pump, plugs, and vct’s. With any luck I’ll get another 100,000k out of her. Beats dropping $80k on a new one.
2022 7.3L 9,000 miles. Zero issues. Love it.
Awesome!
I have a 2021 with 25k and my engine and transmission have been flawless thus far. I do all scheduled maintenance, and oil changes every 5k. I tow and daily drive and have not seen any oil glitter yet. But, word on the street was they had a bad batch of cams that the hard coating on them was substandard and that is what has been coming up.
Thanks for sharing your experience. Glad to hear there have been no issues yet. I wonder how many cams were in that batch?
Improper valve lash or valve float can cause the same issue. If the lifter is leaving contract with the cam roller at any point, the valve spring slams the lifter back into the cam and is basically hammering the roller into the cam. This could also be a oil pressure issue, the Godzilla has a variable oil pump. The gauge on the dash is basically an idiot light that trips at 8psi. The loss of oil pressure at higher rpm will effect the backlash. I am not 100% convinced that is a lifter or cam materials problem.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing your knowledge.
I was thinking along similar lines, I know they are using tall valve springs, wonder if they are good when compressed but get a "little light" towards the end letting the roller skip.
@@berserker406 It's a big-block V8 in a 3/4 ton or larger truck. If you gave a damn about economy, you'd be driving something else. So why sweat the FE so much, Ford?
@matthewholzmueller6292 Ford claimed they selected extra tall springs in order to increase valve spring life. The Godzilla valves experience very high lift - something like 0.5" on the intake and 0.6" on the exhaust
Sounds like all the horror stories on GM & Ram trucks. Even if it's5%, you've still got a 95% chance of getting a good unit. Unfortunately all the manufacturers are dealing with some roller lifter problems. Roller lifters used to be just for racing applications! Now with the new oils containing very little zinc flat tappet cams don't live as long as they used to. That's why so many people have switched to diesel motor oils. But with newer vehicle warranties oil weight / range is a big deal for small hole in modern lifters. The price we pay for being spoiled in a new car or truck ,LOL. I believe it's more of a quality of the part issue than the Ford or GM issue. I know that when any problem is posted on a forum or any internet source, it's immediately going to happen to all of us! Most folks with no issues don't post happy reviews or even deal with social media at all. They are probably the smart ones!
I absolutely agree.
A lot of these internet word of mouth clowns don't realize how many engines that Ford and GM are making. Even just a 2% failure rate gives the average person the *perception* that all the engines are failing. Hundreds of thousands of 7.3's out there. GM probably sells nearly a million vehicles with AFM every year. 2% of those kinds of numbers is a lot of repairs but it's nowhere near as widespread as the internet claims.
2021 F250 Tremor with 26000 miles. No issues with the 7.3 yet but do have a soaking wet driver’s side floor. Been at the dealership for a week now but they still have not located were the leak is coming from.
Glad to hear no problems with the engine - but it seems weird that there is a leak that is soaking the floor! Is it a leak when it’s raining (water from outside) or a leak from something under the hood that makes it’s way in (heater core, etc.)?
The web said the same about the 3v V10, I have a V10 and abuse it and still no issues with my bought new 2007 350. Maintenance is key.
I haven't heard a bad comment about the old V10 yet. I have a couple friends who refuse to switch to a new truck because they love the V10 so much in their earlier Super Duty trucks.
I saw one video that correlated the cam lifter issues in vehicles with low rear gear ratios 4:10 - 4:30 resulting in extended high rpm operation. Basically valve float.
Interesting!
High rpm does not equal valve float. Valve float should NOT HAPPEN anywhere in the rev range below factory rpm limit. I don't think 4:30 gears will result in running at the rev limiter.
@@morley3810 it's just what I heard. If the valve springs somehow are weaker than they should be it would seem to me the problems would manifest most frequently in higher rpm vehicles. Also I'm curious what is your definition of valve float?
@@gratefultrucker7781 It's not my definition. Valve float is a pretty well established condition. It's when the springs lose control over the valve movement and can no longer keep the pushrod/lifter etc in contact with the camshaft. This SHOULD NOT BE HAPPENING with a stock engine operating ANYWHERE in the rev range permitted by the ECU parameters. If it is, that's a serious engineering deficiency. Although it is a Ford soooooo....
That video would be from someone who's a complete idiot! Good God
Another 2020 7.3 with lifter failure.
70,000km. Well serviced, maintained, babied unit, not idling, daily driver.
That's horrible!
The issue of idling destroying these engines makes sense, if they let them idle at low rpms, these engines have variable rate oil pumps, so not as much oil flow at low idle.
I was thinking that same thing. Thanks for watching and commenting.
I have a tow truck wrecker. 2021 F450 gas 7.3 and one of the lifters already failed.. and it damaged the camshaft.. now im replacing all the lifters.. camshaft, headgaskets... my truck is at 133k miles. no warranty..anymore.
Just took my 2020 F-350 in to the dealer for a noise that I thought was the transmission. Turns out that they think that one or two of the lifters have collapsed. I have not noticed any change in power, but I haven't been pulling it hard for the last several months. I started hearing noises from the left side of the engine/transmission area at about 64,000 miles. Especially noisy when it's cold, and when the rpms were between 2000 and 3000 rpm (during up shifts). The truck now has 68,000 miles. Dealer called yesterday and said they are going to have to "tear it down to the point of failure" to determine exactly what is going on, but they think it's the lifters. I love this engine and transmission, but this is discouraging. I've always owned Ford diesels until I bought this truck. Can't stand the emission issues that most all diesels experience, and $1.00 to $1.80/gallon difference in the price of diesel just isn't worth it.
Sorry that you’re now having an issue. Will it be covered under warranty or TSB or something at that mileage? You’re right about the diesel - that’s exactly why we made the switch to the 7.3 gas Godzilla too!
@@PurpleCollarLife I always buy the extended warranty with my trucks, for this exact reason. Luckily this will be covered!
Any update here? What was wrong with the truck?
@@Deep_South ended up with a basically new engine. Metal shavings throughout so they got a short-block and rebuilt my engine. Got the truck back at the end of April. Thinking about whether I soups trade out off or not. Only 25,000 miles left extended warranty….. oh, it had two bad lifters that wiped two cam lobes.
@@robertprice9288 what were the initial signs? I’ve always had a weird vibration at idle. Almost feels like the engine wants to stall out but RPMs don’t fluctuate and it goes away while driving. Just idling in park or in drive with the foot on the brake is very shaky. Dealership always says that it’s normal since it’s a big pushrod v8. Something feels wrong but the scanners never pick up any issues nor do their machines. I’m at 38,000
21K miles on my '22 with no issues other than a clunk noise when I first crank up and take off. I will be gettin an oil analysis kit to keep an eye on the lifter issue.
Sounds great! I’m going to send my oil away for analysis too.
I have a 2021 F250 super cab short bed 7.3 xlt, 3.55 gears. I don’t pull anything heavy; but I have hit the top end 96 mph limiter probably between 25 and 30 times now. I do all oil changes myself and use nothing but Mobile 1 , 5w30 full synthetic and mobile oil filters every 4,500 miles. 21,000 miles on it now with no glitter in oil and no problems. Runs awesome and very strong. Fixing to order a custom tuner from Livernois Motorsports and get rid of that stupid limiter.
Thanks for watching and leaving a comment. I'm pretty sure I'll never come close to that top end speed limiter. Do you run your truck at a race strip?
@@PurpleCollarLife No; just passing as many as three cars at a time on backwoods two lane rolling hills highways in west Texas. Sometimes you don’t have much time to get around them.
What oil viscosity are they specifying for this engine? I swear I believe the lifter/cam failures in the GM and Ram V8 engines is partially or fully due to the 0W20 oil being used. There's no way a V8 towing a trailer in summer heat can be properly protected by "oil" that's as thin as a 0W20. I switched my 5.7L Ram engine to 5W30 full synthetic and the valvetrain noise immediately disappeared and has never come back.
I believe the manual calls for 5 W30 oil. I like the 5W30 better than the 5W20 that our Ford Ranger calls for. I agree - a little bit thicker oil is good, as long as it's still thin enough to pass easily through all the passages etc.
I have a 2020 F250 super duty with the Godzilla engine and now have over 46,000 miles on it with NO ISSUES. It has all the power and torque I need to pull my trailer with ease, not to mention that I only get two miles per gallon than my buddy with a 2017 truck with the 6.7l Powerstroke. With his higher fuel bill and MUCH HIGHER maintenance costs, my gas engine costs much less per mile than the diesel. (not to mention saving $10,000 in the purchase price.
Oil doesn't wear out, it gets dirty and the additives get overloaded so changing your oil and filter will improve any engine's life regardless of make and engine size. Oil is MUCH CHEAPER than buying a new engine so it is money well spent
Excellent report! Thank you.
The real question is what kind of maintenance was being done with these failures on the 7.3 and how many were in heaven duty applications like motor homes, Uhauls and school buses?
Absolutely - I wish we had that info.
Considering it was built for heavy duty applications, it shouldn't be having issues in those either
What the hell do you think a f350 with a 7.3L engine is for? Getting groceries? Unbelievable ignorance.
@@jeepgirl1653 no that’s what diesel are for. I’m talking about idle time or people who rent shit and don’t take care of them. Some of the recent videos I’ve seen were rental box trucks. I guess they could be getting groceries in them.
They upgraded the pistons, rings, camshaft on the 2023 7.3’s. The 6.8L is a 7.3L with a shorter stroke according to a Ford Engine designer. The 2023 7.3L with the small changes is also suppose to get slightly better mileage.
Thanks for the info!
So year later follow up question.
Is variable oil pump and long idle times a factor in the spalling of the lobes?
Great question! I haven't heard a definitive answer. Our most recent oil change analysis results were better.
@PurpleCollarLife nice....keep us posted.
My 6.2l tows my shredding equipment so well (11.2k lbs) but am at the top end of my towing ratings.
2018 f250 fx4 xlt.
But if a 6.8l, mini-zilla were reasonable sure would consider a trade!
i think its a solid engine. my best guess would say with the ease of access to information blew this issue up far more than usual. id say that the cam and lifter issue is mostly a bad batch that wasnt caught at the quality assurance stage
That is what I am speculating also. But only time will tell. :)
@@PurpleCollarLife Your clickbait title doesn't help. People don't even watch the video and just see your title and assume your truck has a failed lifter.
This is contributing to the hysteria more than its helping dispell myths and rumors.
I agree. But I'd hate to be the one caught with the bad batch.
@@wakeupamerica2024 The subject matter of the video is lifters and cams failure, which has become a widespread concern begging definitive information. Nothing in it states that his vehicle actually blew up. Your gullibility is your own problem.
@@armslength2618 The title and thumbnail are clickbait. This video has no more information about the issue than any other out there but is playing on panicking people into thinking it is a widespread issue.
Nothing about the title or thumbnail imply it isnt an issue. Yet it isnt really an issue.
Do you think switching to synthetic oil would be a good idea? I change my oil at 4000 miles now.
Great question! I think my dealership uses the Motorcraft synthetic blend oil during the oil changes.
For my research following some Ford mechanics online it's not an oil issue
@@PurpleCollarLife I switch every other change (myself and the dealer) I use Motorcraft synthetic blend and Motorcraft filters.
Go full synthetic, blends are nonsense! How much synthetic oil is in a blend?
Synthetic oil has conventional oils beat in every category of testing.
Spending $50-70K+ on a truck and then skimping on the oil to save a few dollars, is like training at the gym every day and then eating at Taco Bell for every meal!
@@pauldiesel4582 I like the idea of using synthetic oil but I thought everyone went to Taco Bell after the gym!
Not sure if I'm gonna go F250 7.3 or F150 Coyote I want the extra height on the 250 however
I have a 2020 f 250 with the 7.3 and now have over 75,000 miles. Love the truck, haven't had any problems. Changed plug wires because I heard there were problems. I tow a 4 horse trailer down to Arizona. 50,000 of my miles is with a trailer. 😊
That's great to hear! Which version of the plug wires did you change to? So far, my wires seem to be good.
When looking at a population (7.3 engines in this case) through the lens of statistics, n=30 (sample size) should cover it. So if only 2 percent of your n=600 sample, it should be very representative. However, it does depend on the cause of the issue...large batch manufacturing error, small batch, intermittent batch, or design flaw.
Thanks!
@@PurpleCollarLife my hope is mine came out of the RIGHT batch.
Any thing can have an issue,it's man made.the Godzillas are good engines.
@@mikewarpula911 have you seen the 7.3 dyno chart on the comp cams web page? Looks like Ford has really under rated the performance...over 500 horse and over 500 torque. The Godzilla will be a very strong contender for my next truck.
I think a F350 Godzilla with the comp cams stg-2 cam would be my next one.
20,000 miles on our 2021. It's been absolutely flawless
Great to hear! Thanks for letting us know.
2022 F350 with the 7.3 Godzilla. It had this failure at 22,832 miles. Ford kept the truck for over 3 months and it was covered under warranty it was out for a total of 98 days. They replaced the camshaft, heads and everything in between. I was told that there are no updated parts and same stock of parts were put in. Good luck.
Wow - 98 days!!
Noticed the air filter element can be seen through the inlet. If it's cats and dogs out, or a powerful horizontal rinse at the carwash, directed water will soak the filter.
I wondered about that also - driving in heavy rain from time to time I've checked the air filter. I think it must get enough air flow that if it does get wet - it dries out pretty quickly. I've never noticed it being wet after driving in rain.
They do test for this scenario during development.
I'd be leery of anything made during a global pandemic with massive supply chain hiccups. Even in the best of times, it took a large number of later, upgraded replacement OEM engine parts and some high-grade aftermarket ones, all installed myself, to get rid of bad symptoms and threatening problems in an F150. With 20 years on the clock, it now purrs like a kitten. But I doubt if I'd be so lucky without a ton of work if I had to buy anything made between 2019 and 2022.
Just for the sake of caution (i.e. 'just because'), I'd go into a mechanical system and replace any parts famous for failing that weren't described in a Technical Service Bulletin and covered by warranty, short of pulling out an entire block or tranny of course. But pulling a push-rod camshaft is a tad more involved than replacing all the timing components on a 5.4. I'd back off from buying any new model year, but also any pandemic year, and any string of years where a serious problem has shown up. I'd hate to have to recover from a blown engine, warranty or not.
I appreciate your thoughts. I agree that there were so many supply chain issues and replacement "B Vendor" or even "C Vendor" parts that there are bound to be problems in the pandemic year builds. I certainly hope we avoid the lifter/roller camshaft issues.
I’m at 53k running great and love it, fingers crossed that won’t happen
Sounds like it's all good so far. How often to you change the oil and what type oil have you been using?
@@PurpleCollarLife I’ve always had ford do the oil change so motorcraft but I try to get it done between 4500-5k , it was my daily work driver towing a small trailer but got a new work truck to save the miles on it
Well I have a 2023 with 16,000 with a loud squealing noise it's not the belt took belts off and started it same squealing noise, on passenger side of the truck???
That's disappointing. Hopefully someone else might know what it could be. I am not sure.
My sympathies to you Chad. Even if it’s covered by warranty, there’s still the downtime getting it fixed. And like you mentioned, what ELSE is wrong.
I'm hopeful that we never have to worry about it. So far our truck is running great. And I'm not seeing comments from anyone who has actually experienced the delamination failure with their lifters (rollers) or camshaft. Thanks for watching, Ray!
Wait until they get older money pit
‘22 250 with this motor. 25,100 miles not a problem yet. Honestly I’m more worried about the transmission. Seems a little clunky to me. Maybe I’m still just not use to it. I will be doing an oil sample on the next change. I’ll be getting oil samples a lot after warranty though 😂
Good idea with the oil sample. I plan to do the same using Blackstone. I also am still getting used to the transmission. That’s another reason I have the long warranty term! :)
I'm going to check into a trans update at ford want to keep the warranty.
Trans is clunky, gets a trans relearn from Ford. Fixed my issues
@@sly9263 did you have to pay for that.
@@mileshiles1287 no- warranty. it's a software thing anyway- low effort from them as I understand.
Ok what would you recommend in a gasser v8? Anywhere from year 2000-2015ish. Looking to spend anywhere from 8-15k. Toyotas seems like the best deal but they dont catch my eye as much and their owners never let them go for cheap lol.
Ive considered these options
2000-2018 f150 4.6, 5.0, newer 3.5 ecoboost
1999-2012 silverado 5.3
2002-2012 ram 1500 5.7
Great question. If you're looking for towing/hauling, I'd personally go with a Super Duty 3/4 ton or 1-ton over a 1/2 ton. People have given good reviews to the 6.2 Boss V8 and 6 speed in those Super Duty trucks. In a 1/2 ton, I'd definitely choose the 5.0 over the EcoBoost. I've heard of too many problems in the towing world with the ecoboost engine.
I've always liked the sound of a Ram HEMI engine! And the comfort in some of those Ram trucks is excellent. But I worry about the transmission in those trucks.
I have had friends who love their Chevy/GMC trucks. And I think they have some great looking trucks in the 2500/3500 size - but I don't like the interior rear space in their crew cab - it feels cramped.
I know this is off topic, but what tires are on it? They look really nice for an LT tire.
These are General Grabber Arctic LT tires. I run these (they have metal studs) in the winter time here in northwest Pennsylvania. They’re also available without the studs. In the summer, I’ll put the OEM Goodyears back on.
No problems with my 21' F350 7.3L so far anyway. Time will tell. ... I have found over the years that the people that bad mouth certain items; do not own them or have never used one.
We wondered this same thing - how many of the people saying there is a problem are actually not even owners?? Thanks for watching!
@@PurpleCollarLife I had a 2015 with a 3.5l ECO. LOVED IT! I heard so much negative stuff about them, yet myself and 2 friends never had any issues. And please note Chev & Toyota have gone to turbos as well in their p/u.