Avoiding cam and lifter failure - Ford Godzilla 7.3
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- How I'm reducing the odds and avoiding cam and lifter failure with our Ford F350 Godzilla 7.3. What voids an extended warranty? Can I change my own oil? Do I have to use Motorcraft semi-synthetic oil? Do I have to use a Motorcraft oil filter FL-820s? Here's how I'm reducing the odds of cam and lifter failure in my 7.3 engine. Will this VOID my 7.3 Godzilla Warranty? Does the oil meet specification WSS-M2C946-B1? WSS-M2C963-A1? Will Amsoil Signature Series 5W30 void my warranty? Will a better oil eliminate potential camshaft and lifter delamination engine failure? Will this void the warranty on my F350 Super Duty with the 7.3 Godzilla V8 engine? I have the 100,000 mile extended warranty through Ford Blue Oval Gold Certified Used. What are your thoughts? #godzilla #superduty #warranty #motorcraft #purplecollarlife
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I've never worried about voiding warranty on any vehicle because I used different oil. As long as it meets or exceeds the factory specs. I do like your idea of video documentation. I've always used a spread sheet to document but the video is an even better idea.
Thanks!
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My 2022 Godzilla just turned 20 k . I have sent 2 oil samples to Blackstone . Both reports came back totally normal without any metal particles. Great video.
Glad to hear that you've been getting good results in your oil analysis. Thank you for watching and sharing.
The 7.3L cam and lifter failures you have been hearing about have been in the 300hp chassis cab version of the engine. Not the 350hp or the 430hp used in your F350. The difference is the variable output oil pump calibration used. The 300hp version is tuned for fuel economy. this includes reducing the output settings of the variable oil pump, thereby lessening the load on the engine and improving the economy. When Ford realized the reduced oil output was insufficient to properly lubricate the cam and lifters, causing many premature failues, instead of curing the issue, they just discontinued the 300hp variant. Problem solved, uhm, unless you happen to own one….
Amazing info, thanks so much!
Thanks for the explanation. I didn't realize that the oil pumps were different in the different variations of the engine.
@craigg4246 that helps put my mind at ease.
@@PurpleCollarLifeThe oil pumps aren’t different, the software is different. The oil pumps are variable displacement and only deliver the pressures the pcm commands.
@@JohnDiMartino I see. Thanks for explaining!
Looking forward to hearing about the transmission update.
I’m working on editing that video this week. It’s been interesting with this new truck - the differences between the new technology and the transmission in our old F350.
I don't think it would void the warranty using a different oil and filter. But I do know that some manufacturers can be really particular about their products, so if they said yes, I wouldn't be surprised. The best thing to do is contact them. Some cars like Corvettes recommend Mobile One, and they post it right on the oil fill. I've personally never had any issues with the particular oil and filters I've used....yet. 😊 Thanks for sharing Chad!
I do think it would be difficult to deny a claim based simply on brand of oil/filter used (as long as it met the required specifications). But I'm also sure that there are some instances where it could be problematic. Thanks for watching! Have a great weekend.
Good idea to check the filter. You can always send in oil for analysis too if you're that worried. I don't think it costs much.
Excellent point. We actually have sent our oil away twice for analysis. Here are the videos with the results:
Oil Analysis #1: czcams.com/video/0Vnw725ZYAo/video.html
Oil Analysis #2: czcams.com/video/8uNVBdBSjs4/video.html
Amsoil is def a top end oil no doubt. That said you are better off using a regular oil and changing it more often than what the factory recommends.
Thanks for watching! As quickly as I put miles on, I'd much rather change the oil less often. :)
Suggestion for you, when you drain the oil pan, wait for it to pretty much stop, then put the plug back in, move your pan under the filter and remove the filter, now replace the filter after the oil stops dripping. Once filter replace go back to your oil pan and take the bolt out again. You will be amazed at how much comes out. Then let drain, put the bolt in and then put the recommended amount in. Also, another suggestion, get a FilterMag, it's magnet that sits on the outside of the oil filter. If you every ran 5k with the filtermag on, and then take the filter off and cut into it, you will be glad you ran it.
Interesting suggestions! I've never removed the drain plug out again after removing the oil filter. But I will certainly try that the next time! I've also been considering getting a Fumoto drain valve to replace the plug - but see pros and cons to having it. The Filtermag, I've never considered - so I'll look into that too! Thanks for the ideas and leaving a comment.
I have the 6.7 powerstroke and use Rotella T6 5w-40. It meets the Ford spec and is a superior oil to the Motorcraft oil. But I use strictly Motorcraft filters (oil and fuel) and follow the Severe Duty maintenance intervals on my truck.
Thanks for sharing! I used to use only the Motorcraft filters as well - but I like the filter material used by Amsoil better now that I’ve done a comparison of the construction.
I just did the oil on my 2016 6.2 today and couldn’t find my strap wrench. Good old Phillips screwdriver and a hammer never did me wrong in a pinch!
I've done that a time or two myself. One time - I actually STILL couldn't get the filter off, and nearly tore it in half with the screwdriver when trying to twist it. I was pretty scared that I'd be having to call someone to help me out - because I wasn't sure what my plan was if the filter wouldn't come off once I mangled it. There would be no way to re-fill with oil and run it even to get to a garage. Thankfully - the filter eventually came off.
How many miles do you have on your 6.2 now? Any issues?
I think you are good with the warranty. I been putting motor craft full synthetic and I don't like that oil cap either. I bought a step that hangs on the tire helps alot. I would like to hear about the transmission as well.
The tire step is a great idea! I'm going to look into one of those. Transmission update coming up soon. The video has been shot, and I'm editing it. Wouldn't you know it - as I'm editing the video, I thought of another key point I need to add in. :)
@PurpleCollarLife my transmission has been good but down shifts hard. I going to see if they can update the computer. 21 7.3
ams oil is fantastic product
Yes it is! I’m very impressed with everything I’ve used from Amsoil
You need some teak oil on your ski boat swim platform. Please, it is just a suggestion. I know you take excellent care of your vehicles and boats.
He mentioned that when he changed the oil in that boat.
Thanks for watching! That teak is on my list of things to do. I’ve used the Meguiars Gold Teak Oil in the past. It looks beautiful after about 10 applications. But it wears off very quickly. I’m trying to find something that I can put on that lasts a bit longer. Any favorites?
Thanks!
wow, 95 here in Louisiana and I don't see anyone crying :)
You’d see me crying if I was in Louisiana. :)
@@PurpleCollarLife You both are too funny!
How come you didn’t replace the crush washer?
Good question. I’ve read conflicting reports on how often that crush washer should be replaced. Some people say “every time you change the oil.” Others say that it’s not necessary unless you see damage or are replacing the oil drain plug. I fall somewhere in the middle. I don’t replace it every time - but probably once every couple years, unless I see a reason to before then. I’ve actually never seen one go bad.
I hear the Pennzoil Ultra Platinum is a really good oil. You should try it on the next oil change. I’m gonna use it when I change the oil on my dad’s car.
Thanks for watching! I've used a variety of different oils over the years - Wolf's Head, Quaker State, Pennzoil, Valvoline, Royal Purple, Amsoil, Mobile 1, and Castrol mainly. But of all the oils I've tried, I've been the most impressed with the Amsoil. It's a great product.
helpful suggestion: wear some nitrol gloves to help keep as much oil off your skin as much as possible. Good video!
Thanks! Great tip about the gloves. I used to wear them all the time for oil changes. I've found that my CZcams videos are hard to shoot when wearing the gloves. The touch screen controls and record button don't react to the gloves. :)
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act
You should be good as long as the oil meets or exceeds oem requirements
Thanks! Mark at Amsoil talked with me recently about the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Prior to Mark explaining it to me - I hadn't heard anything about it.
Check out the Magnusn-Moss Warrenty Act.
Thanks for the info! I hadn't heard about this act until Mark, the Amsoil distributor I get my oil from at Clovis Lubricants talked with me about it. www.clovislubricants.shopamsoil.com/
I think if you read the fine print, you'll see that AMSOIL does NOT meet the Ford spec, they use wording like: "suggested for applications that call for for spec ABC123". Not "meets Ford spec ABC123". That's a big difference. EDIT, I just looked it up on AMSOIL's website. It says exactly this: "Use AMSOIL Signature Series Synthetic Motor Oil in applications
THAT REQUIRE ANY OF THE FOLLOWING SPECIlCATIONS".... Note that AMSOIL is famous for this tricky wording. They save a ton of money as a corporation by not getting their products tested by the API etc. They do their own testing. Do they make bad products? No, their oil is a great product as evidenced by much 3rd party testing. All I am saying is you are wrong when you say their oil MEETS Ford's standard. Technically, it does not and your warranty is in jeopardy in my opinion.
I’ve found the Amsoil products to be superior to any other ones I’ve used in the past. I like that they work directly with high-performance manufacturers to make lubricants that work better than other brands. I always like reading the latest news and info on Amsoil.com. I’ve just recently been catching up on their blog posts - very informative. I appreciate brands that are transparent and have educational posts, while constantly updating the products to make a great product even better for today’s complicated machinery. www.amsoil.com/performance-tests/
Amsoil is the best you can get period.
Nighttime tempretures here in Central Texas is right around 75+ degrees.
That's still a little warmer than I'd like - but that's not as high as I imagined central Texas being. Thanks for sharing!
@@PurpleCollarLife I get used to it every year. BTW I grew up in Bethel Park Pa and still have family in Washington County.
I don’t change mine
Thanks! Do you always have a Ford dealership do it? Or do you take it to a mechanic's garage?
The Duke says, I don't think engine problems with this motor have anything to do with the oil. There are even racing cams that people buy for hot rods that delaminate and destroy the engine rapidly.
My belief is that whoever is supplying camshafts worldwide to whoever buys them like Ford Ram n Chevy.,is selling cheap crappy cams made of crappy material and not following good manufacturing processes. For example the hardening process may not be done properly. Lots of things can go wrong when manufacturing a cam if you don't follow proper procedures and use proper techniques. My theory is if you get a bad cam you going to get bad results. Irregardless of whether it's a Ford a Ram or a Chevy or anything else. Just my two cents.
What did I teach you?
Reduce the chance of 7.3 failure by avoiding towing like that jet ski at 2:40.
I’m not sure what you’re saying. That jet ski is light weight and is hardly noticeable. And - these trucks are made for towing.
@@PurpleCollarLife ;)
No
Thanks!