Giving Birth Was WILD in Classical Japan

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  • @Linfamy
    @Linfamy  Před 2 lety +394

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    • @Tia-Marie
      @Tia-Marie Před 2 lety +10

      A sorcerer helped me find the perfect place to give birth to my son, unfortunately things happened sooner than possible and we had to settle for the backseat of a Buick.

    • @tealablu3759
      @tealablu3759 Před 2 lety +7

      HELL NO!!! I’m not gonna be a spectacle 😂😂😂 I would’ve died from embarrassment and screamed at everyone to leave 😂😂😂😂

    • @Average_Brad
      @Average_Brad Před 2 lety +5

      Considering the the load-out I was equipped with at birth, giving birth in this fashion would be just as horrific as any other, I would think... lol

    • @bladeofdarknessfromblood4807
      @bladeofdarknessfromblood4807 Před 2 lety +5

      🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂 this video has a lot of funny moments by linfamy
      Thank you linfamy

    • @greekyogurt9997
      @greekyogurt9997 Před 2 lety

      Hi

  • @Troublethecat
    @Troublethecat Před 2 lety +8425

    I mean I've heard it's been scientifically proven that squatting while giving birth is actually safer and easier for the mother than lying down because gravity so there is that at least.

    • @a-b0t633
      @a-b0t633 Před 2 lety +612

      It's not surprising that loads of women claim the labor and birth was much less stressful and painful doing it at home than their hospital births. People these days will do anything if their doctor says to.

    • @seaztheday4418
      @seaztheday4418 Před 2 lety +779

      So I actually attended the birth of my 4 siblings, and all of them were pretty much delivered either squatting or on her hands and knees and took under 6 hours (the last was only 2hrs). I, however, apparently took 18 hours and I was delivered with my mother on her back with her legs up in stirrups.
      Guess who has two thumbs, a uterus, and is not having kids? (it is, in fact, me)

    • @a-b0t633
      @a-b0t633 Před 2 lety +224

      @@seaztheday4418 You and me both sister.

    • @tanyanivorapongvijit5677
      @tanyanivorapongvijit5677 Před 2 lety +184

      Most elite moms in my country never endure any painful, lengthy natural child delivery. At least 95% of my friends had cesarean section done in private hospitals. Just pay, no push. Some also had Buddhist monks pick the most auspicious day and time for doctors to start the operation so to guarantee the best lives for their kids. No joking.

    • @barbieblues7639
      @barbieblues7639 Před 2 lety +32

      @Tanyani Vorapongvijit that kind of makes sense in some ways if you can afford it (although there are downsides of course) but most western women are probably too vain to want the scar unless they have to...maybe not most but many.

  • @Bam_Bizzler
    @Bam_Bizzler Před 2 lety +6238

    The squatting/rope actually makes sense. Laying down makes the process a tad harder.

    • @PequenaNoobAmaPudim
      @PequenaNoobAmaPudim Před 2 lety +595

      Gravity always beats bebes

    • @ron4202
      @ron4202 Před 2 lety +116

      @@PequenaNoobAmaPudim Please keep them away from bebes

    • @hez5160
      @hez5160 Před 2 lety +468

      A lot of cultures used to encourage women to stand or squat, rather than lay down during birth. The way human female pelvises are shaped/position it's easier to deliver a baby upright, rather than laying on your back

    • @barbieblues7639
      @barbieblues7639 Před 2 lety +260

      Imagine trying to take a poop on your back...it's crazy to not do it upright (both birthing and pooping)

    • @samuraiboi2735
      @samuraiboi2735 Před 2 lety +16

      @@hez5160 oh i thought they would do the same thing like pushing the baby out by laying down or do surgery on it by widening the hole lol.

  • @shofisstar
    @shofisstar Před 2 lety +2119

    Dude i love that Japanese people and ancient mexicas had the same idea “battlefields and birthings are of the same nature” in ancient Mexico a midwife would treat a woman giving birth as a warrior. Because both war and birthing were honorable tasks that brushed with death and so they used the same blessings for both warriors and mothers!

    • @stellamortis4088
      @stellamortis4088 Před 2 lety +256

      A lot of cultures treated birth and battlefields the same, in Sparta only women who died in childbirth and warriors who died in battle were given the honour of an inscribed grave.

    • @MorganChaos
      @MorganChaos Před 2 lety +143

      Yep, Vikings too, women who died in childbirth went to Valhalla which was normally reserved for those who died fighting/in battle.

    • @Growmetheus
      @Growmetheus Před 2 lety +36

      Benito Mussolini is quoted as saying War is to Men what Childbirth is to Women. Obviously a mindset that breeds more death than joy.

    • @Biscuity_hole
      @Biscuity_hole Před rokem +6

      @@Growmetheus Yeah, that makes sense since it requires more sacrifices. You'll never know what will comes next....

    • @emilybarclay8831
      @emilybarclay8831 Před rokem +15

      @@Growmetheus childbirth has always brought more death than joy

  • @the_carriex
    @the_carriex Před 2 lety +2959

    The film "The Tale of Genji 1987" gave a perfect example of birth in the Heian period. It showed monks, midwives, and I believe some mikos.

    • @redcrayven
      @redcrayven Před 2 lety +27

      I found a copy of the movie. Do you remember if this scene was more a the beginning, ending… of the movie?

    • @floating_rock172
      @floating_rock172 Před 2 lety +11

      @@redcrayven Middle or somewhere in the middle , I suppose.

    • @based_prophet
      @based_prophet Před 2 lety +10

      I hope the movie is less drawn out as the book lol but here we got round 2 lol thx regaurdless

    • @based_prophet
      @based_prophet Před 2 lety +6

      @@redcrayven bout midway but it's cut from most American versions

    • @kiwiprouddavids724
      @kiwiprouddavids724 Před 2 lety

      Chinese orphanages have kids tied into wooden create things and rooms where babies get left until they die . Look up abused Chinese orphans tied up in goggle image's

  • @sinnie3801
    @sinnie3801 Před 2 lety +2269

    As someone who is currently 19 weeks pregnant in the 21st century, I'm very grateful all I have to worry about is if I want an epidural or not. I don't think I could handle also worrying about lucky directions. I still get my left & right mixed up sometimes lol

    • @rehoboth_farm
      @rehoboth_farm Před 2 lety +30

      Wow. So happy for you.

    • @sinnie3801
      @sinnie3801 Před 2 lety +36

      @@rehoboth_farm Lol thanks! It's definitely been an interesting time regardless! Navigating through this new chapter considering *gestures broadly* everything going on

    • @rehoboth_farm
      @rehoboth_farm Před 2 lety +25

      @@sinnie3801 You hang in there. Take plenty of vitamin D, Omega 3, and a good iodine supplement along with your mommie vitamins. You know that you can raise your bebe's IQ by up to 15 points that way. Healthy, happy, and a super genius, that's what you're going for right? LOL! You take care.

    • @lonesomebookworm4345
      @lonesomebookworm4345 Před 2 lety +22

      Hope you have a safe delivery!!

    • @Mooffgamesgamer
      @Mooffgamesgamer Před 2 lety +11

      Hope you and child will be alright

  • @zen0vi
    @zen0vi Před 2 lety +4528

    Imagine trying to give birth with people yelling at full volume while beating a drum, others throwing around pots, enough incense burning to punch a hole through the ozone layer, a crowd of people doing _nothing_ but staring at you, and knowing that all of this is your father's fault. I wonder why she was having trouble giving birth in such a wonderful environment 🤔
    Jokes aside, I would have loved to seen this. I can't begin to imagine how funny that shitshow would be live

    • @g3nj1
      @g3nj1 Před 2 lety +187

      This only gives Creedence to the fact that spirits would watch these like movies.

    • @YeviCoulson
      @YeviCoulson Před 2 lety +302

      Lmao, the spirits were too busy laughing at the losers who couldn't make it in on time to harass anyone

    • @superplaylists1616
      @superplaylists1616 Před 2 lety +69

      I love how your two statements contradict eachother so... lovingly.

    • @jonathantan2469
      @jonathantan2469 Před 2 lety +53

      This would be the norm in premodern civilizations around the world when fear of demons & evil spirits was rampant, medical science was primitive, and mortality was high. Priests or monks would be around to chant & say prayers for a safe delivery, and charms & rituals done to ward off bad luck & bad spirits.

    • @ConfusedLux
      @ConfusedLux Před 2 lety +81

      And then some asshole starts shaving your head XD

  • @samwill7259
    @samwill7259 Před 2 lety +2494

    I asked my mother if she would have wanted this kind of audience at my birth, after watching the video she laid some wisdom on me. She said that the balance of souls would have been very different with a crowd because there would have been two births and at least 6 murders if people were peeping at her giving birth shouting orders and prayers and trying to get her to stand up and hold onto a rope.

    • @animeloveer97
      @animeloveer97 Před 2 lety +185

      lol the rope is so you can be in more of a squatting position which actually is much more natural and less painful

    • @sophroniel
      @sophroniel Před 2 lety +56

      What is the other birth tho???

    • @JuMiKu
      @JuMiKu Před 2 lety +18

      @@animeloveer97 They also have them pretty much anywhere now. I was lying down and it worked like a charm though. I didn't have the energy to do all the exercise stuff they had lying around.

    • @synthraofficial5366
      @synthraofficial5366 Před 2 lety +15

      Your mother is a wise woman.

    • @samwill7259
      @samwill7259 Před 2 lety +75

      @@sophroniel I'm a twin, sorry, I thought that the implication would be obvious XD

  • @kym.impossible655
    @kym.impossible655 Před 2 lety +490

    The rope and squat method is a verified way to give birth, as is on all fours or squating on a birthing chair, that's all still done today in birth centres and with midwives. It allows the pelvis to fully open, allows gravity to do most of the work, lessens the chance of tearing or needing assistance and allows for a shorter labour. While lying on your back can stall labour, increase infant stress, cause distocia and increase pain and tearing...this was invented or became popular because a king wanted to see his mistress give birth and didn't want to have to grovel on the floor to do so and also because it made delivery easier for doctors (not the mother).

    • @kingpotato7183
      @kingpotato7183 Před 2 lety

      So that weirdo wanted to see a baby come out his wife so he made her lay down on a bed??? No doubt this definitely was some sick pedo fetish shit, probably tried it multiple times before because you don't come up with this shit on your first time, modern medicine has helped us out a lot but one part where it failed almost every time was it's treatment of women, I definetly ain't gonna have my wife lay on her back while giving birth.

    • @Rubatose
      @Rubatose Před 2 lety

      Funny how the birthing process has only recently become pleasant for women, you know, the people going through the process, and all throughout history we've just been shuffling through the methods that are most convenient for when men want to watch. No wonder there were so many fucking stillbirths and miscarriages. Childbirth was just another one of the things men thought belonged to *them.* It's a process entirely done by a woman's body, that she should have 100% control over, but no, can you make her lay down please so I can shove my nose a little further into her vagina? fucking christ.

    • @Acidfunkish
      @Acidfunkish Před 2 lety +22

      Our pelvis bones still haven't really adjusted to us standing upright. It has definitely given us a disadvantage during childbirth, anyway. But yeah, squatting is the most natural for both childbirth and pooping, still. 👍🏻
      If you have trouble pooping, get yourself a squatty potty. It's such a little "nothing" thing, but it can help cut down your straining, and the time it takes.
      You can make one yourself, too. Just make it so your knees are level or above your pelvis, when sitting on your toilet. 👍🏻👍🏻

    • @samuelbekele3601
      @samuelbekele3601 Před 2 lety +6

      Squating combined with Masturbation is best

    • @Waldemarvonanhalt
      @Waldemarvonanhalt Před rokem

      Giving birth in the supine position became popular because you'd already be on a hospital bed, so emergency intervention would be quicker and easier if necessary.

  • @dawnmana5876
    @dawnmana5876 Před 2 lety +810

    I've popped out a few kids. If there was that much commotion while I was in labor, it wouldn't have prevented ghosts: it would have assured them. There would have been a few murders. It was bad enough that I had a nurse panicking and screaming "pant like a puppy dog" in my ear. I tried to punch her. Fun fact: in the traditional culture my family comes from, it was customary to place an ax under the birthing bed. It's supposed to be good luck. This...doesnt seem safe...for the other people.

    • @dawnmana5876
      @dawnmana5876 Před 2 lety +108

      @@ross6753 I don't know. You have a different mindset when in active labor, especially if you don't have painkillers. I remember becoming irrationally angry because a family member was smiling. That's all they did, and it infuriated me.

    • @PanicLedisko
      @PanicLedisko Před 2 lety

      @@dawnmana5876 Oh bless your heart, that would totally piss me off too!! WHAT ARE YOU SMILING AT ASSHOLE?! DOES THIS LOOK FUNNY TO YOU?? 🤣🤣

    • @elizabethosborne4295
      @elizabethosborne4295 Před 2 lety +4

      @@ross6753 o

    • @latersugarpumpkin
      @latersugarpumpkin Před 2 lety +35

      Maybe also insurance nobody would act up? Like. Talk shit, Get hit by momma

    • @kelzbelz313
      @kelzbelz313 Před 2 lety +43

      The only good part of giving birth during the pandemic was that only my husband was allowed there with me. No well meaning but in the way moms or nosey aunties.
      Just a bunch of people who knew what they were doing. And me.

  • @melimeh7007
    @melimeh7007 Před 2 lety +873

    wow, i never knew the Fujiwara clan married their daughters into the empirical family, allowing them control of the Heian court for 200 years! thank you for mentioning these details most never talk about :D

    • @sophroniel
      @sophroniel Před 2 lety +33

      For some reason it sounds familiar. Oh well, even if it was in every video, I guess I'd just never quite remember it...

    • @b.c4440
      @b.c4440 Před 2 lety +11

      Is it even a linfamy video if that’s not in there?

    • @Jacob-TX
      @Jacob-TX Před 2 lety

      Imperial family. Not empirical. Sorry. I am that guy.

    • @lumilight4242
      @lumilight4242 Před 2 lety +5

      Damn the modern Fujiwaras be having little luck in that area though

    • @lumilight4242
      @lumilight4242 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ross6753 The books Mason! What the hell are the books?

  • @Knoloaify
    @Knoloaify Před 2 lety +583

    Somehow I can't help but picture Shoushi struggling to give birth while the monks and miko blast "Let's Go! Onmyouji!" at full volume.

    • @sophroniel
      @sophroniel Před 2 lety +23

      Comments on youtube videos rarely make me laugh but this is a goodun that did, purely for the mental image alone

    • @dirckthedork-knight1201
      @dirckthedork-knight1201 Před 2 lety +11

      This made my day

    • @SairinEarthsea
      @SairinEarthsea Před 2 lety +32

      Don't forget the now possessed mikos talking about how they were sad they couldn't drink the placenta.

  • @nikiTricoteuse
    @nikiTricoteuse Před 2 lety +233

    I gave birth kneeling. No way was l gonna let a bunch of blokes make me lie down and push uphill just to make it convenient for THEM. Also, there's a very long tradition of important babies being born in front of trusted witnesses. Important that the baby was actually the one everyone thought it was and not a changeling.

    • @edgarallanpoe209
      @edgarallanpoe209 Před 2 lety +7

      sorry if this seems like a weird question but was it easier ro give birth kneeling down? And how did they let you do that

    • @nikiTricoteuse
      @nikiTricoteuse Před 2 lety +2

      @@edgarallanpoe209 They tried to get me to lie on my back while I was still in my room, so they could put monitors on me but it was genuinely too painful (l do have lower back problems). A fantastic midwife put the back of a chair against my bed, showed me how to straddle it and lay my head on the bed. It was the first time l had been comfortable and l actually slept off and on for a couple of hours. My waters had already broken so, l wasn't allowed the water birth that l had wanted and because l had had medical problems during pregnancy and the baby was coming 9 weeks early, l had to give birth in a theatre in case of complications. l was determined to make it as natural as l could though, and wanted to do it kneeling and with no drugs. It probably helped that l was 36 and wasn't going to take shit from anybody and possibly because l had already said l was unable to lie on my back they didn't argue. l only knelt for the last hour or so, as in, once they decided l had dilated enough and transferred me to theatre. I personally, think that kneeling did make it easier, because of the angle of the birth canal, gravity was helping not hindering. Although as l watched beads of sweat drip off the end of my nose, I did have a chuckle as to how appropriate it was that it was called labour. It absolutely fascinates me that they put women's legs in stirrups and lay them on their back cos they're effectively making them push uphill, solely for their convenience, and not even letting them brace themselves with their legs to do it.

    • @erinboateng5961
      @erinboateng5961 Před rokem

      @@edgarallanpoe209my Aunt did it with my cousin. Trust me it does work.

  • @lexiwexiwoo
    @lexiwexiwoo Před 2 lety +1479

    I'm willing to bet the rope held women up so they didn't fall over but also helped to bear down on while pushing. Childbirth is such a wild thing, so much misinformation was & still is prevalent & we've kind of screwed ourselves with not doing birth in a natural position based on doctors (men) wanting to make it easiest for them to deliver the baby. Now that we know more, we've seen lots of people drift back into things like water birthing, squatting to have their babies, etc. & I think it's got to be more comfortable (I comfortable as birth can get ya know).

    • @marocat4749
      @marocat4749 Před 2 lety +11

      So they are prototype medical lay ground you can put up, thats actually good.

    • @mrjones2721
      @mrjones2721 Před 2 lety +147

      Birth support ropes are common around the world. (The mother holds onto the rope, she’s not tied to it.) Lying down is the worst possible way to give birth because you’re fighting gravity-it’s way better to squat, sit on a specially designed birthing chair, or even stand. Thus, ropes.

    • @xereta1123
      @xereta1123 Před 2 lety

      babies born with they head first, if its pointed down won't he hit his head an maybe even die?

    • @mrjones2721
      @mrjones2721 Před 2 lety +18

      @@xereta1123 The mother or midwife catches the baby as it comes out.

    • @Myumeful
      @Myumeful Před 2 lety

      Women lie down because that is the only way you can get an epidural and give birth. Getting an epidural and having a relatively painless delivery beats squatting without an epidural.

  • @nobody8328
    @nobody8328 Před 2 lety +667

    Lots and lots of noble women have given birth in front of an audience. Usually without anything as polite as a screen. I'm told that was so they could prove it was a royal bebe amd hadn't been switched with another 🤷🏻

    • @maykemabulkul4896
      @maykemabulkul4896 Před 2 lety +103

      I think in some cultures, royalties were used to having audience in their most private times as well.
      (Please correct me if any of these is wrong) but when Chinese concubines visited Emperor, eunuchs were there to record everything in the room. Marie Antoinette and Louis XVII were also herded to their wedding bed and checked in the morning if there was blood on bedsheet

    • @summer-jy2pw
      @summer-jy2pw Před 2 lety +66

      @@maykemabulkul4896 ive heard some europeans had the entire family hanging out in the same room as the couple doing the do

    • @tempestsonata1102
      @tempestsonata1102 Před 2 lety +85

      Yes, legitimacy was waaay more important than decency.

    • @flowflower2816
      @flowflower2816 Před 2 lety +9

      @@ross6753 but can't they switch the baby after the birth by a few days or something, i dunno i thought babies look like eachother

    • @flowflower2816
      @flowflower2816 Před 2 lety

      @@ross6753 no I never heard it, seems interesting tho

  • @kashikkg9
    @kashikkg9 Před 2 lety +499

    I don't remember the details but I remember hearing about how holding onto ropes and having the squating position actually has to do with the way a woman's muscles contract during giving birth. In this manner it makes it the easiest for the woman to give birth, which may have helped reduce stress of labour.

    • @deniselisboa1
      @deniselisboa1 Před 2 lety +31

      but then they add the stress back by making a lot of noise and shaving the mother's head and inviting the whole town to watch

  • @karenbonds264
    @karenbonds264 Před 2 lety +366

    Imagine if after all that, Shoushi gave birth to a girl instead.

    • @Linfamy
      @Linfamy  Před 2 lety +167

      In that case, just marry her into the imperial family :p

    • @GaldirEonai
      @GaldirEonai Před 2 lety +127

      To a noble family a daughter wasn't a bad deal either, as she could be traded away for favors and alliances. The ideal distribution of offspring would have been one surviving male son and heir, and lots and lots of daughters.
      Of course, they were shooting for a potential emperor there, so it would have been a _bit_ of a disappointment, but eh...you win some, you lose some.

    • @heyhoe168
      @heyhoe168 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Linfamy but her father was imperial family member. Would not it be the incest?

    • @jerk5959
      @jerk5959 Před 2 lety

      @@heyhoe168 So? Never stopped people from doing it before.

    • @manicpepsicola3431
      @manicpepsicola3431 Před 2 lety

      @@heyhoe168 the royals love incest

  • @stellaG_luna
    @stellaG_luna Před 2 lety +119

    Ah, yes, the return of the Fujiwara Clan who famously married their daughters into the Imperial Family 🤣

    • @ChaosDarkLight
      @ChaosDarkLight Před 2 lety +21

      Which allowed them control of the Heian court for 200 years!

  • @m.a.9571
    @m.a.9571 Před 2 lety +226

    Medieval Japan is pretty brutal than I thought ngl.
    Edit: Also love that callback in 4:13. Only true linfamy fans recognize this reference.

    • @Linfamy
      @Linfamy  Před 2 lety +21

      ;)

    • @mittenista
      @mittenista Před 2 lety +13

      It's right up there with buying your baby from a passing umbrella seller.

  • @smritibasu1185
    @smritibasu1185 Před 2 lety +82

    when he said in 2:31 "giving birth was seen as impure because of the dirty things that came out of the mother birthing blood , bodily fluids , profanities" the profanities part had me cracking 🤣🤣🤣

  • @badgerhooker8275
    @badgerhooker8275 Před 2 lety +119

    I gave birth to my son while squatting and caught him and had to hold him while the midwife went to grab a receiving blanket. It was easier than giving birth laying down like my firstborn, though I strongly recommend having someone help you catch the baby as they can be slippery.

    • @ilv839
      @ilv839 Před rokem +7

      Thanks mama for ur tips I am single as hell and have terrifying birth imagination

    • @Rose-db6bx
      @Rose-db6bx Před rokem +3

      @@ilv839 I'm just so happy I'm not the only one who is scared of giving birth like bro I'm so scared of getting married but I know for sure I will and I will suffer more until I die it's really depressing me i just can't 😿

    • @Pirates.27
      @Pirates.27 Před rokem

      ​@@ilv839and you are not alone! 😂

    • @Pirates.27
      @Pirates.27 Před rokem

      ​@@ilv839 I have been speculating on home birth into a tub, since I hate hospitals (I have a lot of negative experiences. . But it would depend on where I would live and if I ever even have children 😂

    • @ilv839
      @ilv839 Před rokem

      @@Rose-db6bx life gonna be easy after u die if God allows or universe let u sleep peacefully

  • @lyndsaybrown8471
    @lyndsaybrown8471 Před 2 lety +157

    Ah, the perfect video to send my pregnant friend! I don't think she knows about the ghosts.

    • @Linfamy
      @Linfamy  Před 2 lety +26

      Oh no 😂

    • @mittenista
      @mittenista Před 2 lety +42

      Every pregnant woman needs to know about the ghosts, and the head shaving. I died in childbirth with my head unshaved and now I am a hungry ghost. True fact!

    • @lyndsaybrown8471
      @lyndsaybrown8471 Před 2 lety +14

      @@mittenista have you tried Boksu? It's perfect for hungry ghosts.

    • @elfias7524
      @elfias7524 Před 2 lety +6

      @@lyndsaybrown8471 Agree with this person

  • @kv5917
    @kv5917 Před 2 lety +162

    "No more seks, ever!" -Lady Shoushi, probably (after giving birth)

  • @betsybabf748
    @betsybabf748 Před 2 lety +242

    I've given birth 5 time, with the 5th being twins. Every birth was completely different. No way would I want to give birth in someone else's home, or even without medical care. Everything can go wrong at once with no time to waste, even if pregnancy was low risk and mom has given birth without issue prior. Birth is unpredictable, and how you want to proceed, what position is best, what complications can arise and what you need can be extremely different during each and every birth. As for an audience, I'd be screaming and doing whatever it took to get them to run away. Shaving my head? Whomever had the razor would probably be too busy trying to figure out how to live newly castrated.

    • @redwitch12
      @redwitch12 Před 2 lety +26

      ...you'd let them LIVE? You are very kind ;)

    • @dudanunesbleff
      @dudanunesbleff Před 2 lety +17

      You would act like these women did, because our reactions are shaped by society and social rank. What you do or expect now, is supported or enabled by the world around you. If it wasn't, you wouldn't be able to do it, as these ancient women weren't. Women had no choice and very little control over their lives and bodies.

    • @dawnriddler
      @dawnriddler Před rokem +5

      you would have 0 say in it, because you don't get to make that decision, it was already made for you.

  • @Lucious410
    @Lucious410 Před 2 lety +412

    That sounds like a really crappy time for the woman giving birth. Makes me really glad for modern medicine. Have a happy Easter 🐣 thanks for the video 😊

    • @synthraofficial5366
      @synthraofficial5366 Před 2 lety +34

      Lol it's still a crap time, especially in less developed countries that don't have modern medicine. Poor ladies.

    • @ADMICKEY
      @ADMICKEY Před 2 lety +11

      @@synthraofficial5366 its always been a shit time, till like, year 3000 or something

    • @h0zumi
      @h0zumi Před 2 lety +1

      @@synthraofficial5366 Afghanistan is one of thsoe countries

    • @synthraofficial5366
      @synthraofficial5366 Před 2 lety +3

      @@h0zumi Japan doesn't even let you have epidural still to this day! It's not even an option! So I'm afraid to even ask... What is Afghanistan doing...

    • @h0zumi
      @h0zumi Před 2 lety +4

      @@synthraofficial5366 u can search it in youtube. Women there couldn't even study and is forced to marry at a young age.

  • @michaelzein6090
    @michaelzein6090 Před 2 lety +30

    "Michinaga came immediately...." I love this terrible long uncomfortable pause. How inappropriately! 🤣🤣🤣

  • @SabiKatz
    @SabiKatz Před 2 lety +12

    Ok but I absolutely love the fact he keeps saying “bebes”. I love it.

    • @sheba389
      @sheba389 Před rokem

      I was looking to see if someone else said it lol
      I was thinking of American dad... Maybe baby lol

  • @mushroom_thing7927
    @mushroom_thing7927 Před 2 lety +51

    4:13 I thought the sentence was just "The clan that famously married their daughters."

    • @vio2626
      @vio2626 Před 2 lety +1

      413

    • @GutPoacher
      @GutPoacher Před rokem +1

      Yeah I thought he said the same thing too

  • @paulb8030
    @paulb8030 Před 2 lety +18

    7:55 "It was a boy. Michinaga CAME immediately...to the bebe's side." I'm dead XD

  • @IKEMENOsakaman
    @IKEMENOsakaman Před 2 lety +73

    I wonder what kind of WILD childbirthing techniques we use today if we look back from 500 years in the future

    • @Sarafimm2
      @Sarafimm2 Před 2 lety +25

      Always been the same except more sanitary and the baby has better survival chances as times goes on. In 500 years (probably sooner), I think we'll have visual ideas of where the baby is at in the body like a 3D imaging system so we'll know what position it is in without having to guess. The people in the future will wonder about what it was like to not know what was going on with the baby at all times. Or it will be post-apocalypse stone age and every time a woman gives birth they'll talk about the legendary "Hospitals".

    • @TheVioletMaze
      @TheVioletMaze Před 2 lety +22

      Laying down to have a baby. It's so bad for the mother.

    • @Featheryfaith7
      @Featheryfaith7 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheVioletMaze Not true. You can give birth if flipped on the left side. For some reason, it easier to give birth due to the heart can circulate the oxygen and blood easier.

    • @verybarebones
      @verybarebones Před 2 lety +15

      Making women lie on their back, and using way more episiotomy than necessary, to begin with

    • @redwitch12
      @redwitch12 Před 2 lety +4

      "You mean they didn't just teleport the baby out?!"

  • @Tia-Marie
    @Tia-Marie Před 2 lety +108

    Ghosts totally did it, that is also how babby is formed.

  • @prashantdeo1520
    @prashantdeo1520 Před 2 lety +41

    I almost forgot who the Fujiwara clan was thanks for reminding me that they famously married their daughters into the Imperial family allowing them the control of Royal Court for more than 200 years

  • @sarahalramezi
    @sarahalramezi Před 2 lety +206

    God! I wish I was in that sh*% show. I did pass a weird delivery room next to my sister's when she gave birth to her daughter. It was full of the parents relatives and they were having something very similar to a tea party to me. My sister was incredibly nervous while those people were having fun with their teacups and mini sweets and sandwiches. 😅

  • @Mikeztarp
    @Mikeztarp Před 2 lety +35

    The Fujiwara and their daughters make an unexpected comeback! What a Cinderella story!

  • @jasminejackson5774
    @jasminejackson5774 Před 2 lety +18

    Highlights for me:
    “Probably in a shed somewhere filled with hungry ghosts… and poverty”
    “He threw a shit money at it like he was the U.S. government and his daughter’s vagina was the military industrial complex”
    “It was a boy! Michinawa CAME *dramatic zoom in for comedic effect* immediately….to the bebe’s side, to see his grandson”
    🤣🤣🤣 I laughed AUDIBLY, thanks man!

  • @maxboiiyeeet1041
    @maxboiiyeeet1041 Před 2 lety +23

    Say baby: nah
    Say bebe: yes

  • @Pheluv
    @Pheluv Před 2 lety +15

    Squatting whilst giving birth is the natural instinctive position to use for birth.
    Women only started to lay down on a bed was to make it easier for the medical attendants (men) to see how labour was progressing. Now due to medications used during labour many women aren’t able to have an active labour or get up and squat.

  • @buska1i11y
    @buska1i11y Před 2 lety +182

    The book "Memories of Silk and Straw" has some recollections of childbirth for peasants in the edo period, which I know is mad later than Heian but still interesting

    • @anjel130
      @anjel130 Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks bro,that sounds really interesting

  • @avikmahfuz2894
    @avikmahfuz2894 Před 2 lety +101

    Never fails to entertain

  • @blindpilot3849
    @blindpilot3849 Před 2 lety +40

    Birthapalooza...😆 Guess that was quite a show with all the chanting monks, ghosts and half the town elite crowded together😅

  • @PaladinGear15
    @PaladinGear15 Před 2 lety +48

    This is freaky! So the best way to give birth was to give the mother long term PTSD by having people screaming and breaking stuff around her while some guy shaved her head.
    If there is one thing I'm sure women don't want, it's for childbirth to be even more stressful.

  • @impishrebel5969
    @impishrebel5969 Před 2 lety +40

    "They had an audience."
    Well, that was common in a lot of countries among the social elites.
    And the entire reason why the whole "giving birth on the back" thing is even a thing is because of some king. That's right. Not tradition or something for the mother's health, it was because some king wanted to see the births and get his jollies. Not really surprising anyone, it's Louis XIV...

  • @MT-jd8pc
    @MT-jd8pc Před 2 lety +6

    “Gravity beats baybays every time” that line had me rolling

  • @mememarie2040
    @mememarie2040 Před rokem +14

    I absolutely love your humor and the way you pronounce baby😂😂😂 just you speaking is entertaining. Thank you for all your hard work creating these educating and entertaining videos. Your service is appreciated.

  • @Skipadoo
    @Skipadoo Před 2 lety +22

    4:14 thats it he said the line we can go home now!

  • @egesuarpaci2718
    @egesuarpaci2718 Před 2 lety +6

    I love how he says bebe, and never adresses it by any other name

  • @idraote
    @idraote Před 2 lety +207

    I guess Medea had her reasons when telling off Jason for being a coward, unlike her who had given birth, twice.
    Because all women had it bad, before hospitals were invented (now only some have it bad), but aristocrats had it bad in front of an audience. And incense. Nothing like those smokes to give you headaches.

    • @Bllue
      @Bllue Před 2 lety

      Medea was also a BAMF in general amd Jason took advantage of her moral grayness so he would look like a hero, so not only was he a coward, he was an asshole

    • @thetillerwiller4696
      @thetillerwiller4696 Před 2 lety

      Hospitals at first actually were more dangerous for women back then since doctors were examine dead body’s and not wash there hands

    • @gkalenaki
      @gkalenaki Před 2 lety +2

      And then she went and took the life of the children she had given birth only because he left her. One must be brutally brave and a total misanthrope in order to kill their own kids, especially if it's the mother

  • @wezza668
    @wezza668 Před 2 lety +64

    Must have been an absolute nightmare for the woman

  • @sergeychistov8162
    @sergeychistov8162 Před rokem +4

    7:00 Michinaga CAME immediately

  • @boreddiva2037
    @boreddiva2037 Před 2 lety +12

    I almost forgot what the Fujiwara clan was famous for, thank you for the reminder

  • @TheDukeOfDallas
    @TheDukeOfDallas Před 2 lety +7

    *Commoner woman hearing all of this while giving birth in a rice patty while she works* "Cool stuff.."

  • @J_Gamble
    @J_Gamble Před 2 lety +141

    Aside from all the audience and ghosts and monks and ghost-catcher girls and talismans and things, some of this sounds pretty similar to what modern midwifes might do to help things along.

  • @ihshojhuf
    @ihshojhuf Před 2 lety +5

    "It was a boy. MICHINANGA CAME IMMEDIATELY"
    Oh.

  • @chelelse7020
    @chelelse7020 Před 2 lety +6

    They way you’re saying “baby” means “vagina” in my language 😂😂

  • @TheNinjaNiky
    @TheNinjaNiky Před rokem +9

    As someone who's given birth, it is infact icky😂 my first shower a few days later was the best shower of my life lol. I wasn't allowed to shower because I still had to have IVs and be monitored because I'm anemic

  • @FlygonJinn
    @FlygonJinn Před 2 lety +10

    Suddenly the “birth rope” quest in FFXIV makes more sense…

    • @Linfamy
      @Linfamy  Před 2 lety +2

      There's a birth rope test? Lol

  • @kevin4gwen
    @kevin4gwen Před 2 lety +93

    Am I the only one who would love to see this being played out in *anime* ... The chaos that would ensue just the ridiculousness of it ..it sounds more like a plot from anime more then it does real life
    Id especially love to see it in inuyasha with Madam Exorcist and the gang join in killing hundreds of demons around the birthing tent as the mother just screams and Madam Exorcist going "I can't see a thing there's no spirits here what are you guys doing ...stop jumping around like idiots this is serious"

  • @chickenchaser9348
    @chickenchaser9348 Před 2 lety +21

    Pregnancy in the 21st century can be stressful enough. I cant even begin to imagine how stupidly insane it was for Heian period women. Holy shit lmao

  • @gkalenaki
    @gkalenaki Před 2 lety +14

    Not a mother (yet in life), but I would definitely prefer having some ghosts hanging around during me giving birth than some not so loveable relatives who would come without even being invited in the first place.

  • @sabrinaleedance
    @sabrinaleedance Před 2 lety +6

    Lmao if there was monks screaming at "spirits" when I was trying to push out my baby I'd be like " SHUT the FUCK up!!!"

  • @shellodee
    @shellodee Před 2 lety +64

    🤣 8am and the only thing my neighbours can hear from my house is me laughing. Love your videos. Brilliant 👏

  • @mfaizsyahmi
    @mfaizsyahmi Před 2 lety +48

    When I heard:
    "The Fujiwara clan famously married their daughters into the Imperial family, allowing them control into the Heian court for 200 years."
    It was like seeing my dad come home with the milk.

  • @YuBeace
    @YuBeace Před 2 lety +6

    Michinaga came
    immediately
    to the baby's side.
    Nice one, dude.

  • @TheGooglyminotaur
    @TheGooglyminotaur Před 2 lety +4

    Pulling a rope while squatting is still an option in many non-US countries. In the hospital. We just kind of suck.

  • @fashrobin
    @fashrobin Před 2 lety +8

    I smashed the like button after hearing all the fantastic description. Thank you so much for the funniest history lesson ever, I really appreciate.

  • @justaguywithnoface6370
    @justaguywithnoface6370 Před 2 lety +5

    idk who's funnier lol you saying "baby"
    or james over at "dead meat" saying "DINOSAUR" 😂😂

  • @sennaka
    @sennaka Před 2 lety +19

    But....what happened to Shoshi? Don't leave us hanging there!

    • @Linfamy
      @Linfamy  Před 2 lety +17

      Oh she was fine. She gave birth and the son did become an emperor later :)

    • @PequenaNoobAmaPudim
      @PequenaNoobAmaPudim Před 2 lety +3

      @@Linfamy fine and bald

  • @colibri1
    @colibri1 Před 2 lety +14

    "Historians love violating privacy." Ha ha ha ha!

  • @teenasnyder4888
    @teenasnyder4888 Před 2 lety +5

    Oh my goodness who are you and where do you come from a storyteller. You tell me a story like none other. Serious but yet funny at the same time. You are making me laugh but yet it’s interesting at the same time. I have got to listen to all of your stories. Whenever I find them. Thumbs up to you buddy

  • @seadragon4425
    @seadragon4425 Před 2 lety +7

    My god why can’t birth be as easy as taking a dump? Fuck it I’m adopting I don’t wanna push a human out of me. I’m glad I didn’t live in this era

    • @ilikeonions1051
      @ilikeonions1051 Před 2 lety +1

      Its either physical pain of birthing, while making sure baby is alright in tummy for 8-9 months straight, or mental pain of going through months or even years through adoption papers to make it official, with a chance of being denied, what is not that rare. Honestly, i feel like difficulties of adoption are just too high. But it does seem somewhat more comfortable. It may be becuase i am not female, but i just cant imagine walking around with another living being inside of me for such a long time, Lmao

    • @Mini-wd7qz
      @Mini-wd7qz Před 2 lety

      Men are lucky they don’t have to be pregnant woman really do get it harder than men

    • @hardiksukhdeep
      @hardiksukhdeep Před rokem

      I can help you make baby maam

    • @seadragon4425
      @seadragon4425 Před rokem

      @@hardiksukhdeep i'm a minor

    • @hardiksukhdeep
      @hardiksukhdeep Před rokem

      @@seadragon4425 how old u are?

  • @trevatoniateedaka501
    @trevatoniateedaka501 Před 2 lety +2

    The Monk : (preying louder)
    The woden fish : help me..

  • @dannygorrens4176
    @dannygorrens4176 Před 2 lety +34

    Demon Slayer Manga spoilers!
    This actually explains Muzan's Backstory, as said in the manga the shadow of death was always near him, and his heart stopped beating a few times in his mothers womb, and having a very fragile body.

  • @sabrinaleedance
    @sabrinaleedance Před 2 lety +9

    - Me trying to calculate in my head which direction I was facing when I gave birth to my son-
    FUCK I think it was east 😂

  • @Coconutmuahaha
    @Coconutmuahaha Před 2 lety +3

    Him: talks about a serious topic
    Me: *bebe*

  • @TheMezzomorto
    @TheMezzomorto Před 2 lety +9

    The best part of this video: the part where we learned about the Fujiwara Clan, the clan that famously married their daughters into the Imperial Family, thereby allowing them control over the Heian Court for 200 years

  • @bigfoottroisiemepartielave1759

    Quite a few women projectile shit while giving birth.
    This makes me wonder if there wasn't some sort of "splash zone" where they kept aristocrats who wanted to catch a glimpse of sleeve and not catch what the new Okami-san had for her last meal.

    • @merchantfan
      @merchantfan Před 2 lety +12

      I mean they were squatting so they'd probably be pooping downwards or one of those attendants could kind of aim a bucket if they could see poop was incoming. But yes, that's probably why people didn't stand as close with European births

    • @TheVioletMaze
      @TheVioletMaze Před 2 lety +18

      Now a days they give you an enigma of a gallon of water before birthing to make sure you get all the poop out first. And then you can't eat till you are done. I was in labor for 23 hours and I barely had the energy to push the baby out by the end. Laying on my back and working against gravity was awful. I passed out twice from the pain. I wish I was squatting.

    • @kh3612
      @kh3612 Před 2 lety +10

      @TheVioletMaze Pick a word. 😂☮️
      Enigma: something hard to understand or explain
      Enema:. the injection of liquid into the rectum and colon by way of the anus

    • @merchantfan
      @merchantfan Před 2 lety +16

      @@TheVioletMaze That might just be your doctor/hospital being bad. You're the first one I've heard of that had to do that and I've heard of plenty of younger women who pooped or peed during delivery

    • @christywakeen229
      @christywakeen229 Před 2 lety +11

      @@TheVioletMaze I must agree with @merchantfan, that sounds like a corrupt hospital system, I have never heard of women going through that specifically.

  • @GreasusGoldtooth
    @GreasusGoldtooth Před 2 lety +15

    As if giving birth ever hasn't been wild.

  • @yannickdelentdecker2048
    @yannickdelentdecker2048 Před 2 lety +3

    I've never actually laught at a sponsor, but that was smoothly done xD

  • @lisahoshowsky4251
    @lisahoshowsky4251 Před 2 lety +8

    I don’t think I should have been laughing so hard at this but the sly jokes kept sneaking up on me😅😂

  • @tealablu3759
    @tealablu3759 Před 2 lety +80

    Making it a spectacle sounds like European royalty. I get that they want to prove that the baby came out of her, but JESUS!!!
    Also, I’d be wicked upset if I came out of delivery with a shaved head. The person shaving my head better watch out if I make it, js
    Also, I want to hear about Japanese battlefields! You said they pay special attention to the border of life and death, like a battlefield, and now I’m curious. Did they do rituals there too?

  • @Sybil_Detard
    @Sybil_Detard Před 2 lety +5

    Thanks for the closed captioning. They were fun, too :)

  • @myvox143
    @myvox143 Před rokem +3

    This is how instructors should explain in their lectures... Quite fun! 💖

  • @ringlhach
    @ringlhach Před 2 lety +28

    Ah, hey, the Fujiwara. Who famously...
    Anyway, the rope harness thing actually may make a degree of sense, given the position. Have you ever tried to just sit in a squatting position for a while? It doesn't work out well, your legs end up giving.

    • @flyingsky1559
      @flyingsky1559 Před 2 lety +4

      Not with proper Slav form, 24 hours straight of drinking and smoking with no chairs necessary

  • @lotusgal313
    @lotusgal313 Před 2 lety +52

    Thank goodness childbirth has evolved to a realm of safety, modesty, pride, near perfect hygiene, and above all sanity

    • @racheln4309
      @racheln4309 Před rokem +5

      It haven’t, we have an extremely disproportionately high maternal mortality rate despite our advances and the amount we spend on birth.
      You should take a look at the business of being born documentary

    • @thiacari
      @thiacari Před 11 měsíci

      Childbirth is always dangerous. Modesty? As you pee and poo, sweat and bleed on the floor and sheets while the nurses watch. Hygiene? According to research it's actually healthier not to wash the baby for a few days, just wipe off the excess blood.
      But yeah, these days we can march into a hospital and generally be sure of walking out alive and unpregnant, that's really good.

    • @lilalizzard
      @lilalizzard Před 11 měsíci +1

      That‘s new to me. Many women experience assault and verbal degradations while birthing by doctors, nurses or family members. In the USA, in Germany…

    • @cecilrhodes2153
      @cecilrhodes2153 Před 10 měsíci +1

      If you are talking about in a hospital, 😂
      Current medical protocol surrounding hospital births is horrible and is responsible for most of the complications that occur during delivery in the modern day.

  • @janegael
    @janegael Před 2 lety +11

    TIL there was such a thing as sleeve fetish. As always, your video was hilarious and educational.

  • @salmiakki7652
    @salmiakki7652 Před 2 lety +15

    Someday someone's going to look back on our way of doing things, women being terrified of giving birth, laying in the most ineffective position, 30-50% being born by c-section, no regard for spirituality or sacredness just treating labour as medical, even the act of going to a hospital where pathogens run rampant vs an institution only dealing with birth, and they will think it's as strange as having the Ghostbusters attend your birth

    • @sparaxisblanc2473
      @sparaxisblanc2473 Před rokem +1

      I still don't understand why childbirth is considered beautiful.

    • @thiacari
      @thiacari Před 11 měsíci

      I agree! In the future we'll have pregnancy exercises like safe squats to make our body ready. Our health watches will tell when the time is nearing, and we'll prepare a nice quiet comfortable room in the hospital's birth section, with our favourite things, where we'll stay a week with our partner or friend. Our midwife, who has accompanied us for the whole pregnancy, will practice the positions for pain management. As birth comes nearer, we have our favorite music, and can even have a last stroll in the birthing park. After some time in the room or in a bath, we enter a birthing trance, induced by the songs and sounds of our birth helpers. We choose the best positions and movements, helping the baby to turn and twist in the best possible way to get out. We spend one or two more weeks in our room, learning to care for the baby, helped and monitored, someone else cooks and cleans.
      Then, as our body is well on it's way to healing and the baby has it's vaccinations, we go home.

  • @chloebowman6455
    @chloebowman6455 Před 2 lety +7

    This is the first video of yours I have watched, and I gotta say dude, that segway to your ad read was amazing! One of the best I've heard in awhile. It's something that can be easily overlooked but I noticed it and thought I'd say something 😁 I'll go finish the video now!

  • @YokoshimaOfficial
    @YokoshimaOfficial Před 2 lety +2

    Ghosts protesting: It's called being Bebetarian and it's good for the environment.

  • @OrisR
    @OrisR Před 2 lety +13

    Pregnancies in the Heian Period were difficult! 😬

  • @fridaaa0
    @fridaaa0 Před 2 lety +4

    The view people have had on women throughout history enrages me.

  • @Divorceja
    @Divorceja Před 2 lety +25

    Jeez... glad I've opted out of childbirth, now, and especially so if I had lived back then!
    Another fascinating vid, Lin. Thank you, & keep 'em coming, please! I 💜

    • @Linfamy
      @Linfamy  Před 2 lety

      Thanks! Glad you like :)

    • @Divorceja
      @Divorceja Před 2 lety

      @@Linfamy do you have any videos about witchcraft in Japan? I mean the kind that could be compared to what Celtic pagans are associated with?

  • @whatisnot1926
    @whatisnot1926 Před 2 lety +5

    When linfamy said the word ‘bebe’ , I felt that.

  • @luz9719
    @luz9719 Před 2 lety +3

    gravity beats bebes every time made me spit my coffee lol so funny

  • @amaterasuregalia3035
    @amaterasuregalia3035 Před 2 lety +3

    4:25 this line w the US analogy lol

  • @kalindhiseneviratne8247
    @kalindhiseneviratne8247 Před 2 lety +2

    This was the smoothest 'now for the sponsor' transition that I ever saw. I was so confused...

  • @Goosium3
    @Goosium3 Před 2 lety +1

    I cant believe the monks went "Look at me, this isnt you, you can be better than this" and it worked

  • @DarkKaij
    @DarkKaij Před 2 lety +9

    I was missing so badly some knowledge from the Heian period just to here the speech about he Fugiwara Clan who famously married their daughters....

  • @nancywysemen7196
    @nancywysemen7196 Před 2 lety +3

    this was .....funny.seriously peculiar,entertaining.....what a spectacle.

  • @jessipeppermintz6372
    @jessipeppermintz6372 Před 2 lety +1

    This was the first of your videos that I watched. The VERY first.

  • @sparaxisblanc2473
    @sparaxisblanc2473 Před 2 lety +9

    With all this talk about midwifery, I was fully expecting a mention about kekkai (a type of yokai) at some point.