How Good Was Steve Nash Actually?
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- A career retrospective of Steve Nash, one of the greatest point guards of all time.
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It’s sucks people try to define his career with his stats. He made the Suns a contender mostly every year he was there. One of the best floor generals ever
Yes, people might only be mad because he stole Kobe's 2006 mvp from him
And his stats could have been a lot more filthy if not for his unselfishness
His stats stack up though regardless
@@MrGoatMan3895Although I think Kobe deserved that 2006 mvp I feel as if Steve Nash is only looked at as the guy who stole Kobe and Shaq’s MVP, which is absolutely ridiculous. The suns would be nothing without him.
@@MrGoatMan3895 the year kobe's team had like a .500 record and was in 6th place while nash lost stoudemire for the year and they still won 55 games. that year? "but muh ppg."
Steve Nash won those MVPs by being unselfish like a point guard should. Making the right plays, pass whenever it needed and winning games.
Why didn't Kobe win 2006 mvp?
@@davidwilliams316 idk, probably because the suns were a 55 win team while the lakers barely made it into the playoffs and lost in the 1st round in Game 7, even though Kobe did everything he could, 81 points
Nash should not have won either MVP award. He is a laughable MVP and history will continue to show he didn't deserve the aware. The only reason he has two is because he won it in 2005 when he didn't deserve it, and because he improved all his numbers, he had to win it in 2006 even though again, he did not deserve it.
You shouldn't be the MVP when you are a complete liability on one side of the court.
@@ThatDudeCurtis6Nash was one of the best point guards ever. His passing was unreal and the way he created chances both for himself and his teammates. Although I agree that Nash didn't deserve the 2006 mvp, he lead his team to the WCF and averaged 15 points and 12 assists in 2005. Even if his stats aren't that impressive at first glance. MVP's aren't just based off of stats. Nash is an amazing point guard, not a laughable mvp. He is one of the key reasons why the Suns were a championship contender for most of his time there. Please appreciate his greatness.
None of that has any bearing on him being the MVP either of those years. He didn't deserve the awards and is a joke of an MVP. @@MrGoatMan3895
Shaq was the MVP in 2005
Duncan, Dirk, Lebron, and Kobe were all better choices in 2006
You never saw Steve whining about no foul calls. You never saw excessive celebrating after a made shot. He never pounded his chest. He just strapped on his tool belt and went to work every game.
In other words, he was a joy to watch.
I never saw him win a championship too
@@SushiTuna635 I saw that myself!!
@@felixmadison5736 you saw Steve Nash win a championship. When?
@@SushiTuna635I saw that he didn't win a championship. LOL!!
I strongly believe Steve Nash should’ve made an appearance in the nba finals in 2007 if Robert Horry didn’t intentionally hip check him
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You just got that from the one video that just came out
didn’t even watch the video yet
POV: you just watched that one video talking about that what if
@@SoggySlopster thank you you said it better than me 😂 talking about I strongly believe like he didn’t find out about that 2 days ago😂😂
Steve Nash is the reason why I fell in love with basketball at 8 years old .. had me practicing passing the ball behind my back , licking my fingers before shooting free throws 🤣 I was heartbroken when he went to the Lakers but at the same time I wanted him to win a ring , still bums me out that he wasn't able to achieve that
I always wondered why he would lick his fingers in the course of a game.. cos that’s pretty unhygienic 😂
@@MaxJoseph999 lmao I always thought the same thing , but doing it gave me a little more grip on the ball so i assumed he did it for more control of the ball
I'm sure u like watch players being a big liability on defense too.
@@MaxJoseph999 boosts the immune system
I became a fan of basketball because of Nash at the age of 30! He made a huge difference for Phoenix when he got there. I loved his style of play!
Nash was a point guard’s point guard. Selfless and always looking to make the best play. His court vision and passing was next level.
He can't score the ball. All he can do is pass to a teammate right next to him.
@davidwilliams316 he could
@@davidwilliams316Are you insane. Someone who can't score doesn't have multiple 50-40-90 seasons. He was just too unselfish. He held back his scoring ability in favor of deferring to his teammates. That's VERY different from saying he CAN'T score.
@@davidwilliams316 lay off the shrooms
@@Triniboi05 he couldn't do that vs the spurs. When his team favored to win he gets hurt trying to play defense. He didn't double down with the play style that won the suns 60+ games. He just too injury prone.
Nash was simply brilliant to watch during his peak. He made it look so easy.
Yes, yes he did. Like he was not even trying.
Honestly the dirty play by Spurs and the NBA for suspending Stoudemire and Boris Diaw is just revolting and heartbreaking as a former Spurs fan
What pissed me off is when Stern said it didn't make a difference in the series. Are you fu*king kidding me?
What do you mean former Spurs fan? Switching up teams?
@@ethanhaggerty4290 I didn't switch teams per se (as in I didn't switching to liking another basketball team). I just lost my love for spurs after some things came to light (Granted I was naive and very new to Basketball when I started loving Spurs). I don't support an organization fully anymore now (like I use to with spurs). Now I just pick a favorite team every season to season and just am excited to see the games unfold. Right now (and has been for the last few years) my favorites has been Milwaukee Bucks, Miami Heats, Denver Nuggets. And it is not really the organisation but the coaches and players that I like.
I still love spurs ball--that team passing brilliance that I initially fell in love with and still am. Love seeing other teams in NBA using selfless team play to win games.
oh and just to clarify, I am not calling Spurs organization a bad organization. I was just stating my current position on liking any NBA teams
@@krisharkleroad8 NBA management knows hot to spoil everyone's joy.
Love how you said he won a state championship in high school.... its a provincial championship in Canada 🇨🇦 Nash is a BC treasure and we love him here ❤️
We love him in Phoenix too❤ 😂
Yeah, I caught that too. I don't even think it was a mistake. I think that Americans like to pretend that all the stars that they see on their TV are American (when obviously they aren't).
Canadian's so touchy. Low self-esteem.
Anyone who doesn't love Steve Nash as a basketball fan is biased in some manner. While I agree, his 2 MVPs are questionable and other guys likely could have gotten it, he was insanely talented and the closest to a Stockton we have ever seen in a pure PG style.
That 2007 series was an absolute robbery. The suspension on Amare and Diaw for merely stepping outside the bench was extremely mind boggling. The Spurs went on to demolish both the West Finals 4-1 (Utah) and the Finals 4-0 (Cleveland) which was absolutely heart breaking because that should've been the Suns in that spot. That would've been our first Championship ever.
People don't seem to remember that Tim Duncan also left the bench. The series was rigged and everyone knows it.
That was the Tim Danaghy Tommy Nunez disliking Sarver rigging year.
you have to remember the context of this though. It wasn't that far removed from the malice at the palace and the NBA had just implemented that rule which in no uncertain terms said in that exact situation there would be suspensions. it did suck but there was a reason.
@@roscoelight2435 So why wasn't Duncan suspended?
@@raygonzales197 I don't think it was rigged, but there is a real case to be made for it. There are many factors that went into this suspension, including malice at the palace and Tim Duncan being a top 10 all time player and getting bias for it. Still though, if I was a Suns fan, I would likely feel the same way with emotional bias.
Steve Nash and those 2000s Suns teams were the version 1 edition of Steph Curry of the 2010s Warriors. Steve Kerr was the GM of the Suns and became the Head Coach of the Warriors. Draymond, Klay and Igoudala played hybrid versions of Stoudemire and Marion of the Suns. Livingston, Barnes and others were the Warriors version Hill, Barbosa, Bell. If you watch and paid attention to both teams and organizations you could see this.
Facts been saying this for years.
They also explained that in this video but thank you for writing it down for those that come directly to the comments like attention whores
Nash would still try to play defense and get elbow in the face or kneed In the face. Nash is just better off not playing defense so he can stay healthy the whole game.
I didn't know Kerr was a GM of the suns, wow
@@optimalstrengthmedia has been comparing this for years..
I've been on a Steve Nash high for the last month or so. He's one of my all-time favorite players and to have so many SEASONS shooting 50/40/90 is unreal. Just try to acheive that in a single game in the NBA, let alone for an entire season. Not to mention he's playing against defenders that have crazy athleticism and wingspans every night. It's insane to think about the mastery you have to have over the game to be able to do that at the highest level for so many years without being a supremely athletic like Jordan, or 6'9 like Magic.
Top 5 shooter all time with an almost career average of 50/40/90, every team he played with had the top offense in the league, revolutionized the game. Would have scored a lot more in today's offense (which he pioneered) and wishes he would have shot more in his time. Whenever they weren't playing well he could easily take over and score 40+ points in a game. Was a textbook MVP both years. The first year because he took them from 20 wins to 60 wins and the top offense in the league, while all metrics showed when he wasn't on the floor they sucked. The following year they lost their 2nd best player for the season in Amare Stoudemire and they still won over 50 games. Would have a ring too if the malice in the palace didn't happen and the league wasn't on edge to ban players who stood up to fight. For some reason people think Kobe deserved the 06-07 MVP because he simply chucked more to 35ppg on terrible efficiency, and his team barely made the playoffs with a .500 record. Madness.
for real! One thing thag made me fall in love with him with Dallas was when somebody would score a three on him. He would go right back and do the same on his face. Dude could easily score but choose to be a pass first player getting everybody involved
I became a Lakers fan when I moved to LA in '91 for college. I watched Kobe's entire career and he was my favorite player. I agree wholeheartedly with your statement. Although I hated the way Nash used to pick apart my Lakers, Steve Nash hooped more beautifully than any other player I can remember.
Finally, someone who remembers the past clearly. There is a certain kind of fan who loves players like Kobe and doesn't respect people like Nash. I'm not going to bring race into this because I think it's cultural, not racial. Both Kobe and Steve were brilliant basketball minds, but the main difference between them was that Kobe was dominated by his ego. His pride prevented what could have been and even better career. You said it: Kobe would force up difficult shots, shooting the Lakers OUT of games as often as he carried the day. I know this well, I was a Lakers fan during Kobe's prime and I wanted to tear my hair out whenever Kobe decided he needed to "take over" a game.
The fans love Kobe's "alpha" attitude and assholery, but don't appreciate a player like Nash who did whatever it took for his team to win. Yes, I know that Kobe was a top tier defender and Nash wasn't, and I'm not trying to claim Nash was a better player overall. I'm more talking about the attitude of a certain segment of the population that admires flashy moves and arrogance and doesn't appreciate self-discipline, humility, and self-awareness. These are the same reasons why there are all those idiots out there who think Lebron walks on water but resent Curry, despite (in my opinion) Curry achieving just as much as Lebron with a lot less god-given talent (and less whining, pouting, flopping, throwing coaches and teammates under the bus, self-aggrandizement, and lying)
He's sadly very underated. He would be even way better now if he played in the current era
yeah nash seemed like he was a part of that transition from "oldschool" basketball and the modern era
In today's weak era, Nash would be on par with Chris Paul, if not better
@@lilpenny1982Nash could’ve easily gotten 25 ppg in his era but was always a pass first guard.
If he was in his prime in today’s league he’d easily be 28ppg and 12apg.
This era he puts up Trae Young numbers on insane efficiency
Nash's game in today's NBA would challenge Steph Curry easily ....
I am just a casual NBA fans but I really hooked on watching Steve Nash every time he plays. He revolutionized the point guard position and IMO he unselfishness is what make him above everyone else even though he deserved more. Thank you for your great career from a fan like me. Stay true to yourself Steve Nash.
Steve Nash and his team encouraged me to watch NBA games, and it had an impeccable impact on my childhood. I am glad to see that Nash is finally receiving recognition after all these years. The Suns team led by Nash was like an early version of Steph Curry's Golden State Warriors, but the only difference was that the Warriors were able to put together the missing pieces that were lacking in Nash's team.
Steve Nash! This is going to become a banger video nonstop. Thank You 😀😀😀😀🎉🎉🎉🎉
Steve is better than prime Charles Barker with suns
@@Gbalvin3stop the cap. Better at what in the playoffs???
@@Gbalvin3I would agreed with you on this one bro.
Steve Nash, RIP Hamilton, Carmelo, Derrick rose, and Allen iverson were the players I loved watching the most when I was younger with Nash and AI being my favorites
If Bulls had RIP a season earlier instead of Keith Bogus, or if Rose hadn't gotten injured when he got there, Bulls and Heat woulda been playing the best Eastern Conference series ever for half a decade. Bulls coulda won 1 or 2 from the Heat and sadly for Dirk, he probably wouldn't have won one as that front heavy Bulls Squad that neutralizes Mavs rebounding woulda given Dirk more trouble than Heat's lack of size and there aint no way JJ Barea or the Jet locking Rose down lol.
Amazing video, Nash has been one my favorite player of all time. Thank you for his legacy :)
Thank you for making all of your basketball videos i love them i hope you make more videos like this 😊
Thnks for making this video❤
He had one one of the best IQs in the game
He has no defensive iq. He gets hurt when he tries to play defense. We never see Nash make half court passes. He can't see over people. He too small.
Steve Nash - Top 5 Shooter, Top 5 Passer, Top 5 Playmaker, Top 5 IQ in NBA history
I so loved your video about my most fave NBA player! Probably my most fave video about him too! Keep it up!
He was my childhood favorite, even though I am a Celtic fan. He is so much resembles soccer Luka Modric, who would love the game. Totally a genius game planner and unselfish.
This dude was so good, he was the reason I practiced left layups 😂
It's so funny because u can't see it now as much as u could back then but Curry always did remind me of Nash when he came in the league
When I was a kid I loved Pistol Pete, even though I never actually got to see him play live; watching Nash I felt that this is about what it would be like or the closest thing to it
Best free throw percentage every year...he and Malone were unstoppable on screen and roll interaction.
Is Mr. 40/50/90 good? No, he was PHENOMENAL! If he wanted to, he could have lit up the scoreboard nightly, but he wanted to play team-ball.
Please note, I'm not disagreeing with your assessment of Steve Nash, but his desire to play team basketball is very likely why he shot 50/40...the 90 was all him. When you distribute as well as Nash does, it causes the defense to spread out to prevent other players from punishing you. Nash shot well because he often had more space as a result of his passing. Had he of increased his shooting frequency, it may have cost him shooting accuracy (more defensive pressure). I'm not saying it wouldn't be the right choice, but he may not have ended up being the 50/40/90 player you now know.
@@jonarmour7585 Yeah but that's assuming he basically ONLY shot. You make a good point but it kind of assumes to far the other way. He didn't need to shoot all the time. Just more. Then the defenses would be even more off balance because they'd have no clue what might be coming. I could just as easily say adding a bit more shooting would have sent all his statistics even higher because most defenses basically knew he was a passer.
We'll simply never know.
@@doublestrokeroll I wasn't suggesting he only shoot, but that assuming shooting more would automatically lead to greater statistical improvement might be naïve. Your own comment is indicative of what I was trying to imply, "most defenses basically knew he was a passer." If that is true, how did they defend him? They gave him more space and tried to fill passing lanes, because the probability he would punish them shooting was lower. If he became a volume shooter, I suspect defenses would have tightened up which would have hurt his FG%. I'm quite comfortable deducing that shooting more may have actually led to more assists or at least more efficient assists. Shooting more would have forced defenses to play him tighter, which would have created more space for passing.
Ultimately, I think we agree. More shooting from Nash seems like it would have led to a greater optimization of his skill set. Just don't think we should get too silly about suggesting because he was 50/40/90 that shooting more was a foregone conclusion (i.e. he couldn't shoot too much) or that shooting more wouldn't have negatively impacted his 50/40/90 career stat line. If you tell me that averaging 20 pts per game and 10 assists on 44/38/90 is a better outcome, I wouldn't disagree with you. His actual career stats were 49/43/90 with 14 pts and and 8.5 assists per game. I simply think there would be some give to get (give up some fg% and get more pts and asts).
Thanks for keeping it cordial.
If you question Nash’s first MVP you weren’t watching. And if you question his second, you weren’t appreciating. His influence on the game in that era was the launching pad for modern, fast paced basketball.
I live in Phoenix, Steve will always have a place in all our hearts! Those days when Steve was playing are some of the best Suns games ever.
He was my favorite player when I was a kid!
you could tell Nash knew the game of futbol well. you use feet in futbol which makes hard window passes that much more skilled in my opinion as we are creatures of our hands. his vision translated on the basketball court where he threaded needles all day which in my opinion made him one of best offensive pt guard passers ever
One of the best PG. He made the suns a contender for the ring when he was there. The amare-nash-martin tandem were amazing
It's always good to see someone get their due amongst all of the others who get way too much exposure over guys like Steve Nash! One helluva player!
Underrated star, and honestly, a legend who changed the game. Never got his due.
If Steve Nash played in today's NBA he would be a solid mix of CP3/Curry and would absolutely dominate
None the less he revolutionised the NBA and the Suns 7 second offense was a pleasure to watch all those years
Fantastic video!
my favorite player after jordan bulls and scottie's blazers. we were so close like 5 times. Nash is absolutely AMAZING
Kobe is my Goat but Steeve Nash will always be my favorite player. I just love watching those 7 seconds or less suns offense, especially when they're going for the fast break and Nash with the ball. You just know you're about to see an electrifying highlight. I honestly believe that if he played in today's NBA, he could give Curry a run for his money with his sick handles and sharp shooting, plus he still that great passer and play maker too!
Please do how good was ray Allen next video please
I can't believe I've been alive long enough to see a video like this. Nash was hysterically good, whatever he did just fucking worked.
LOVED watching Steve growing up and always strived to shoot like him. I do think he's underrated especially if you're just looking at stats.
I personally have him post NBA/ABA merger #8 pg ever
Magic
Curry
Thomas
Stockton
Kidd
Payton
Westbrook
CP3
Nash
Great video as usual
Hmm...I'd probably put him number 4 on your list. Probably bump Curry over Magic at this point. And I'm way more of a Magic fan. Thomas is right. But I think Nash is better than all the rest of those guys.
@@doublestrokeroll I agree. Kidd couldn't shoot, or run half-court offence until late in his career. Stockton couldn't take over a game by himself. CP3 was predictable and could be stopped in crucial moments of the game. Still, because of his offence, he should rank above Kidd and Stockton. Kevin Johnson was arguably better than Payton, but both should rank below Kidd. Westbrook shouldn't even belong to the list. He isn't a good shooter or a playmaker, and his triple-double stats were packed.
PLEASE do how good was prime kemba walker
nah
Very good in the eye test, but very low IQ player...a burden to any team
not really sure why youtube recommended this video, I never watch videos of such types... but I LIKE!! liked and subbed
Steve Nash is the original POINT GOD. The literal embodiment of a FLOOR GENERAL.
Magic Johnson exist.
You must be a Y2K kid
Oscar Robinson exist. Did Nash ever get a triple double? He can't rebound the ball.
Magic Johnson is the God PG but Nash was incredible.
@@davidwilliams316that too! People have forgotten about Oscar.
I used to COOK with Nash on 2K
Mfs were rage quitting left and right!
Some nights my homie and I would co-op and he would be locked on Stoudemire and we would run the pick&roll almost every damn play 😂 I know that had to be frustrating for some of our opponents 🤣
My older cousin played against Nash back in high school here in BC, and was a power forward. Nash was effing' FAST and that game Nash's team won by around 5 points. I still have the original SI magazine article about him. If anyone knows how to dribble properly, then do what he did: BOUNCE 2 TENNIS BALLS every day, left and right hand for 5 years from grade school to high school. He still did it at Santa Clara that's why almost no one could steal the ball from him. Well deserved of those MVP's.
I played against Nash in high school. I can tell you 100% he ripped our team apart like we were standing still. There was another guy on the team just as good but I cant recall his name. Between the the two of them it was Harlem globe trotters.
Steve nash and mike d’antoni paved way for the type of basketball we are seeing now ❤
Definitely my fav player. He's the reason I started watching nba
It says something when he took down or lead his team in Santa Barbara to upset a top ranked team (UofA) !! Guys really underrated !!
He is a basketball genius, a mastermind of playmaking.
Nash was an underdog, had athleticism, humility, and insane IQ. Him and J Will were my two bball idols - I formed my game around them.
in 04-05 season, the suns were killing the regular season and there was i think 4 games where nash needs to sit down for his injury and during that 4 games, the suns lost which even highlighted that Steve Nash is actually the main reason for their success. Also look at his playoff performances, he is always consistent and oftentimes using his scoring to help the team. Whenever he subs with Barbosa, the flow of offense changes with Nash and compared with Barbosa. The way he control the basketball is just unmatched
Can you make a video like this about Reggie Miller please?
For real though, he is the reason on why I keep choosing Point Guard in NBA2K MyCareer.
I love his freethrow routine
50/40/90
Should of been a 3 time MVP, despite his career those 3 years he was absolutely the most valuable player to his team in the NBA
His second stint with the Suns made me understand what run and gun was in basketball. It was fun to watch.
i love your videos
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Watching him play was a pleassure. Real offensive diamond.
I wish he joined lakers earlier.
he was the best at keeping his dribble and pulling up at anytime it was fun to watch
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This dude is why I fell in love with basketball.
good to hear this, ive been saying for years that if i coached Nash, he would have averaged 25 - 30 every season because hes the best all round shooter in NBA history, his only weakness is defense.
Him and White Chocolate are my favorite players. The creative and smart engines accelerating the game to an offensive highlight inferno.
I’ve watched Steve play soccer in NYC during summers. He was awesome at that too.
One of the best PG❤❤
Steve Nash was more than his stats. Those Suns teams were magical to watch and he was the catalyst behind that magic. It wasn't just about skills but was about a mindset that he instilled in all the teammates he played with that no highlight reel can show, but rather you have to watch full games and a full season to see it. Teammates knew that if they ran to open space that the ball would get there even before they arrived at that open space. They knew that they could run into traffic but if there was a sliver of an opening - and that opening might only be seen from an angle in the 4th dimension - that they could put their hands into that spot and the ball will get their either in a straight line pass, some crazy bounce pass, or from a pass like a hall of fame quarterback dropping the ball into a garbage can. And players knew that when Nash was controlling the ball wreaking havoc on defenses scrambling to contain him or block shots that was the best time to penetrate towards the basket because he was creating openings and disorganizing the defense. Yes...he was an awesome shooter and passer but he elevated the players around him incredibly and far more than any stat line could show with the exception of the team points per game stat line. That was all him.
The steve nash era in basketball is what made me fall in love with the sport.
It was so great to watch Nash he was something else.
Fav player in history 🔥
Man him and Dirk was the one of my favorite duos. Really wish we would have kept him.
yes he was, a joy to watch, most efficient smartest player ever. deserved 2 time mvp, living thru it was a treat
I've seen exactly one NBA game. I'm glad that I got to seem him play even though it was at the end of his career.
Jasod kid was my fav growing up but boy did i love it when he played nash
Steve Nash will always be one of the greatest point guards in NBA history. It is tragic what happened with the Spurs. I'm left to question with a bunch of what ifs.
That 2001 Mavs squad was nasty. Michael Finley,Dirk & Nash were gr8
In y’all’s next video can y’all do the rise and fall of Julio Jones, the tragic story of Andrew Luck, how bad was Akili Smith actually, how good was/ rise and fall of Matt Ryan, rise and fall of Andy Dalton
One of the greatest, this guy passing ability was crazy
Steve nash is one of the goats. Bout time people acknowledge it.
What a delight to watch play
Just more proof Danny Ainge was the greatest genius off the court in the office. Coming from a Celtics fan, this guy knew how to build a team and rebuild a team and always turn them into contenders almost immediately. He went for the best players and coaches for his teams systems, and it was always reflected in the finals appearances and championship wins.
He made my fell in love with being a point guard
For NBA 2k play type, I always selected pass first even though the starting stats for scoring sucked.
I love how this channel tries to really show how good nba players are and doesnt make up any crazy allegations and accusations on them.. ive been binge watching and they are focusing on what good the players really are
A lot of people never saw him he’s actually playing. It was amazing.
Guy is very underrated, he would terrorize the Lakers every year.
the 05-06 suns was the reason i started watching nba. and a long time suns fan.
It's almost always hard to say if a player deserves to be named MVP. There are always so many amazing players. In both of those years, you could easily argue that someone else deserved it. Jokic may be the only one I've seen in recent years who statistically just completely buried the argument.
I've always watched suns series back then. They were really fun to watch.
Going from not being able to guard a chair, to being able to lock down Iverson. Now THAT is hard work and progress!!!
this vid is fire
like phoenix suns
I learned my whole game from Nash, I grew up watch that Suns team and getting my heart broken every year. I still pass too much lmao
One of favorite players of all time
I remember watching Nash play for Dallas on national TV long before he was a household name. After Nash performed several unbelievably tricky sleight-of-hand moves, a friend called me on the phone, excitedly babbling "Did you SEE that short white guy???"