Comparison: Canyon's EMTB's - Neuron, Spectral Or StrIve: ON? Part 2
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- čas přidán 2. 06. 2024
- Canyon have three E-MTBs for challenging offroad riding. We put all three back to back on some extreme, steep, exposed ridge lines to figure out which one we prefer. Taking each bike to the limit helps you understand how they all ride back to back.
*Correction Neuron ON is 140mm travel...
Join us on the ridge line as we fight the 80 km/h gusts of wind that ended up making them change the race route the next day as the wind hit 138 Km/h....
This video was inspired by a request from our community of followers. Thanks for following and let us know for part 3 any technical questions you have for our Q & A video.
00:00 Start
00:26 Intro
00:48 Neuron ON test ride
03:18 Spectral ON test ride
06:17 Strive ON test ride
08:57 Conclusion - favourite bike
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the video i waited for :) thanks so much
any detailed questions, will be answered in more detail in third video.... get writing comments and ideas.
@@alexbiketesteri think to answer this we need also to wait for the bosch release of the software that supports this thing and the availability. I personally think to go with the strive (comming from an levo2017 expert)
I recognized that a part of the comment was lost somehow. bosch has shown a range extender(PowerMore 250), this should be possible for all of the newer units, but the manufacturer has to approve the the bottelscrews for the extra weight . An of corse the thing has to fit phzsically in the frame, probably you can measure it in the futhure video: size 200x88x75mm.
That will gibe the strive or the neuron (small neureon frame i think i won't fit) the possibility up to 1000wh!
@@winters3 Yes i can take a look at this, 1000 wh though is really a lot.... my legs will die before the battery....
@@alexbiketester 1000wh ist massive if you run it 50%of power, which is for a tour more than enough, you end with +3000hm . That eqals to 2-3big alps climbs... Crazy
Great review! I got a 2023 Spectral ON CF8, so it still has the 150mm fork, which actually works really well.
Ive purposely left it alone for 1100 miles of all sorts of riding, lots of rocks/local riding.
As noted here suspension set up makes all the difference, the rear sag has to for sure be dot on. Or pedal strikes will happen, be sure its on the firm side of set up. The bike turns much better when adjusted properly.
At some point I will either turn the 150 fork into a 160, or buy an upgrade 160 fork, the bike is for sure worth modding to taste, its a monster truck of a bike and will bash thru anything, and also turn sharp, and is playful feeling when turning sharp.
The Strive with long travel would be great at times, no doubt. The Spectral is my 1st E Mt bike but wont be my last.
Thank you for this video as I have been conflicted over which to choose.
Very solid test! Thank u very much!
Thank you!
Thanks, your video helped me a lot to decide.
thank you
Great video
Great now I want all three depending on how I feel on the day 😂
dude, you are not kidding.... lol.... its unusual to be able to test three bikes from one companies range...
great video ,very honest strive on for me
Glad it helped, thanks for watching.
Good day to you!
I am a grandpa rider on HONDA motorcycle from Japan.
Enjoying camping ,touring and upload video.
Your bike ride video is so nice!
Awesome!
Full supported !
Have a nice day my friend!
thanks Good day to you!
Thank you for the great video. It would be nice to see a comparable range test between the models.
lets see what i can do....
Thanks for this video again man. I was wondering ; if you would live in the Netherlands where we have pretty much flat trails with not much elevation but you would love to take your bike once a year to vacation in the alps in Swiss or France and do some adventurous biking. I don’t mean the avalanche but just have a few hours of fun with variable trails. What would you then choose? I mean when I would only ride in the Netherlands I guess Neuron On would be most logical.. But take me with you in your thoughts..
Interesting, if you really are going to go once or twice then maybe a neuron ON, and have a 170mm fork for it for those trips.... which is a great idea and i think i will try it to see how it works and make a video about it.... ;-)
The Spectral is a great bike, but needs some descend to have lots of fun, i prefer the neuron for sure if im mainly riding flatish stuff. Whats great is i took the bike extreme to find the limits.
Exactly the comparisons I was looking for! Would love to also see your thoughts with the Torque ON
I will try that as well....
@@alexbiketester Sweet! Thanks!
Thanks for the video comparison. I’ve debated between the three for purchase. I heard the battery for the Neuron-on isn’t removable but is it replaceable in the future down the road?
Yes you can replace it, just undo four bolts and it comes out as motor hinges out of the way.
This channel should have way more subs
thanks for the kudos ;-)
Hi there
Thanks for the comparisons, this is incredibly helpful! I am pretty certain that I'll buy a Canyon E-MTB due to the relatively low prices. Generally, I like a nimble and playful bike, I like to jump a lot. I will use the E-MTB for my local trails, which are essentially what you'd expect: Small jumps, tight corners, not too gnarly, etc. At the bottom of one local trail, there's a jump line however with quite a bit bigger jumps that are easily 4-5 meters in length. Is this something the Spectral can still handle or would you recommend going for the Strive to not take the risk of damaging the bike all too easily? Thanks in advance!
Spectral can still do that.
This will be my first e-bike. I currently ride a ripmo af and I'm stuck between the spectral and the strive. I won't be doing alot of park so I'm looking for a do everything bike. From this video I'm thinking the spectral is a better fit. Any thoughts? And is the bosch motor in the strive that much better than the shimano? Thanks
Do anything the Spectral would be ideal. For this type of use the Shimano motor is good, the new bikes come with the 801 motor which is good! tried it the other day.
Buying my first e-bike at the start of November, really torn between the neuron and the spectral. Both in the CF 7 models. Price is the same. So it’s really just am going to find the neuron more fun in flatter flowing trails than the spectral? Or would be be silly for me not to get the spectral for the same price and still have fun and have enough bike for when I take it out to more technical stuff as I progress my skills?! So stuck any tips would be greatly appreciated. Love the content
For context I’m completely new to MTB. And locally it’s just going to be single track, smooth riding. But the 900wh battery is telling me even for chill exploring the spectral could be the one?
Ok, thanks for the comment and support.
The geometry is essentially the same, the neuron has a 29" wheel set, which gives different handling. The Spectral is more capable, it has slightly less rolling speed in my opinion. Of the cf 7 has the possibility to mount the 900 then that will give you incredible range.... Which depending on your local riding is a real consideration if you want to ride all day.
The motors are different as well. Both good, but. Different sensation. If I was choosing I would go for the Spectral if you are choosing the 900 wh battery.
Hello Alex,
Thank you for this very interesting video.
There are currently great discounts on the Canyon website.
the spectral on cf 9 is 5500€ and the neuron on cf 9 is 6000€.
I will be tempted by the spectral which is 2000€ on sale but your opinion on the neuron also makes me think. the weight of the spectral is 24.5kg and it seems to me that the weight of the neuron which is lower is an advantage? What do you think is the best deal? what is the best value for money for you?
THANKS
hey thanks fro watching! much appreciated. As I said int he video, a lot depends on your personal use style. The neuron is super capaabl;e if you are not doing any Enduro stuff and very upgradable in teh future if you want to get rowdy down the line.
Amazing Video! I have the Neuron On 7 and I simply love the bike! Like you said his good for having fun rides with friends ,etc. But I'm considering upgrading just to have more range. My battery is a 630w and a range in profile 2 stock gave me a max of 102km and 1700 meters high. But that's the limit. And I still have fun but after 5h+ of riding and managing the Battery i was exhausted. But Done more that 2000km on the neuron and in my opinion is an underrated bike! If this bike was able to have a range extender, or a longer battery i never though of changing for a long time. Keep Ripping! 🤟
Theroy says the new Bosch range extender will work....
@@alexbiketester really ? Going to check that out! Thank you for the suggestion!
But on the Shimano EP8 motor?
on the bosch for the neuron.
@@PedroMartinsEnduro
@@alexbiketester mine is shimano powered
looking for my first emtb, i was a mtb marathon guy but now im 30kg over my normal weight , im a trek fan but their prices are ridiculous now, a think a neuron on 8 is the best choice to me, if we can put a fox 36 with 150mm on the front the bike will be top
Yes the neuron is a great value bike. If you just ride, your weight will come down.Just upgrade the tyre, @mbr test editor is sat next to me right now, and he agrees, my test bike has vee tyre. thovker casings go well.
@@alexbiketester thank you for the reply , tell me one thing in your videos about the neuron you said that in front its 150 mm but in canyon site it is 140mm and know its a personal taste but is the blue colour on the neuron is nice ?? another thing , im 1.73 cm and 74 cms and the canyon chart says its an S .. strange for me to have a bike with S size greetings from 🇵🇹🇵🇹
yes i got the 140mm wrong, the colour is good. I would say m, @@rodrigus1672
hello, is it possible to do an autonomy test between these 3 bikes? THANKS.
i can, yes, but what kind of riding you want done? offroad, road? how much climbing? The spectral on i already have something in the bag I can use...
@@alexbiketester in fact we often do committed outings with 50-60 km with 1600 seas at altitude, so I'm looking for the best compromise in terms of battery power to be comfortable. thanks very much.
@@manuvince5850 for this i would choose the Spectral ON.
@@alexbiketester thanks a lot.
wich bike do you prefer i like the neuron
I've got the Neuron, I guess it depends of the stuff you'll be riding the most and your stile. Were I live (Mallorca/Spain) 140 ml of travel is enough
Would love the torque on to be added to the comparison
there is a video on the channel about the torque.
TBH the way the top section of trail were ridden seem more like rider skills set than the bikes not able to do the trail
i assume you are trolling... lol
The bike can do it, but it's much easier with the Strive, also most people who buy these bikes are not pro riders, so its good to know what's possible.
Why test ebikes on downhill with lift. I bought an e-bike to climb and ride all mountain where there are no lifts.😮
The ride is up and down, the lifts are a part of the park, the lower part of the trail was a climb.
Ebikes are versatile and can be used for all types of riding.
Where did u take the video? In the Alps?
Alpenini - further south.
StriveOn for me but it is a disappointment that Canyon does not sell its e bikes to Greek customers...I am heading to Orbea Wild or new Propain Ekano instead
Problems with import? Service?
@@alexbiketester Yes, they do not sell their e bikes, but only their regular ones...and other countries are excluded as well besides Greece
@@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 Thats rough.... considering greece is EU, doesnt make much sense... we should ask them why?
@@alexbiketester Rough for sure...if you could help so that they change their policy, that would be great and there are a lot of people here who would be much obliged! What is the point shipping normal bikes and not e bikes? Please, do your best so that a solution can be found! Cheers!
@@ioannisparaskevopoulos1120 I will tell the powers that be about it, at least find out the reason why....
you always do beter videos
The Stive :ON has a big problem o the BatteryLatch, that develop play, unpluging and turning of the bike
It is affecting all bikes, and deffect will appear accordingly to ride style.
Canyon nor Bosch has a solution, and Customers are strandled with a deffective product.
Cuidado
Las Strive :on vienen con un problema de deseno en lo sistema de cerrar la bateria, gañando huelga e desconectando la bateria.
Canyon lo sabe, pero solo cambia la cerradura y poco más. Tarde o temperano, lo irá ocorrer nuevamente.
If you have an issue with a bike, get in contact with their customer services, they will resolve it. I expect a fix if you have this issue.
It's not only me or my Strive :ON
It's the design used to mount the battery
Waiting for a replacement latch, that is the same, and will occur the same (as it did on other Strive :ON )
@@tmstriveon i see what canyon say. I will ask the designer.
All those bikes would be good for the condition ur riding on and you didn’t even do a climbing test smh 🤦♂️
I have done multiple climbing tests, but its very subjective, the neuron part of the video has riding on flat trails which also go up and down.
Specifically I can address this point in the third video commentary i I mention in the description. But each bike has been tested by me on the channel, so you can find that info in those tests. All three climb very similarly so no one will be disappointed, however the descent capabilities have far more influence on the overall feel of the bikes than the climbing in my experience.
@@alexbiketester like I said all 3 bikes are capable of climbing well and going down the same as well and the performance of every bike is good for every trail and rider
@@topchoice1621 I wouldn't say for every trail. I deliberately took them to a trail that will test the vertical capacity of the geometry let's say. In those conditions you could feel the difference clearly with each bike. The Strive could fly over stuff that you had to think about with the Neuron, which was out of its comfort zone. All good bikes, there is no perfect way to compare in my opinion after years and years of comparing bikes and test riding. So much subjective stuff going on.