Are your clients fussy about STRIPES!!! Rear roller vs 4 wheeler
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
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Today we’re talking about rear roller mowers vs 4 wheeler and I get asked this a lot but are your clients fussy and why do I always do stripes
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I use both, 4 wheeler for me is only if its long or wet. I personally hate the ruts left by 4 wheelers if used on a regular basis!
Strips all the way, dude!
Hi Robert thanks for watching and thanks for the comment it’s nice to know what everyone prefers or how they work you know
Have a good rest of the week mate
Good topic I think it all depends on the clients like you’ve said some love others just want the grass cut
@@user-qx9tm6hh1e yeah I think that’s very true definitely depends on what people like but then if all you’ve got is a 4 wheeler then I’d just say it’s all I’ve got I’m sure they’d be happy just to have their lawns cut
If they are that fussy then they might not be the customer for your business
Ive got about 7or8 customers that specifically asked for stripes. One in particular pays me to cut and stripe half an acre with a walk behind roller mower. I said to her it would be cheaper for someone else to come with a sit down mower but she likes 22 inch stripes up and down her garden. Useless on small gardens but look great with long or wide lawns. I've got mulcher mowers, roller mower, 4 wheeled mower, 3 wheeled mower and a small one for awkward gardens. I think its my tools for the day so i buy what i need.
Hi thanks for the comment I’m hearing a few people say they’ve got multiple mowers for different lawn types and different clients I think it’s really wise as so many gardens are different
Thanks for watching have a great rest of the week 🙌🏼😎
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@@TheHigh5ers go for it mate it’s really enjoyable and you never know you might want to consider it for a business if you enjoy the work
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I used a 21” Honda rear roller for years, before that Hayters (when they were good). I transferred to an EGO wheeled mower two years ago and asked all clients whether they cared about stripes - none did after all my efforts of straight lines for years 😂
Should’ve asked ages ago. 20 years ago most clients were fussy about striped lawns, I guess people have more important things to think about now!
I’m really wanting the ego mower what’s it like for everyday use and how long does it last on a fully charged battery
@@THETATTOOGARDENER83 there’s a lot of models now so I’d research a bit! I have an LM2020E 51cm, really versatile and light but could do with a little more power for uplift. Dry grass it’s great and a 5 amp battery will last 1.5-2 hrs, depending on grass type, incline, wet grass etc.
Never at first but when you have done the lawns a few times for them they love it so then you have to step your game up to get them line's straight ...lol
Hi buddy thanks for sharing mate I remember doing it at first and being terrible lol
6 years down the line and it’s my speciality
Some customers like the stripe but most don’t care!
I use both for different jobs. I do like the stripes on some lawns and the roller mower picks up better.🙂👍
That makes it much easier when they don’t mind either way if all mine were like that I’d probably sell one of my mowers most likely the hayter just because I can use my etesia for everything and it’s lighter
Have a good day mark 😎☀️🙌🏼
I think you’re right, if customers want it or not it is more professional to stripe. But the four wheeler will always have its place, as you pointed out the Atesia comes into its own in the wet or as a back up. I guess it’s lighter than the Hayter too.
Yeah the etesia is very light compared to my hayter it’s one of the best all round mowers going that I’ve used anyway lol
I can highly recommend them if your ever in the market for a new mower
Thanks for watching garry
I’m lucky my customers just want a nice lawn. Sometimes it’s roller, sometimes it’s 4 wheeler and when it’s not growing much it’s a dedicated mulch mower. Mix and match works for me.
Great comment most of mine don’t mind but I do have a few that prefer the stripes
If it’s wet and they still want it cut use the eteisa that week and then pop the rear roller back on soon as it’s dry
Thanks for watching and dropping a comment 🙏
50 50 with me but if its wet the stihl 4 wheeler comes.out
They are very good on the wet them stihl mowers 👌🏼
Good topic mate, I just use a bog standard Stihl petrol mower, never been asked to put stripes down, one day, I might get asked, when I want to expand the business a bit more, I’ll have a good think about it, but for now, the clients are just happy when the lawns cut, and not 1 foot high lol
Thanks Simon it’s nice when customers aren’t too stressed about lawns and just want them
cut it can make life easier
If I knew people didn’t want stripes then I’d probably sell my hayter
@@THETATTOOGARDENER83 No worries man. Fair enough Pete, have a good weekend mate
I run two Honda pro mower. One roller and one 4 wheel. I mainly use the roller during the year and cut all my jobs on a height setting number 4 and now the same way ish time come rain or shine. Maintenance is key on any but kit and keep the blade sharp and the box clean will get a full box every time even in the wet. My 4 wheel is mainly for first cuts at the beginning of year if needed or for overgrow jobs or even spare if the roller goes down.
Hi Carl what’s the 4 wheel Honda pro like does it cut as clean as the 536 rear roller mower
It’s with rear wheels instead of part. Yes it does the same clean cut as the roller
Made the mistake of buying a Honda rear roller mower two years ago, I paid a lot of money for it, now I only use it for my garden, it's crap in the wet, it's heavy and a pain if the customers have steps, four wheel mower all day long for me, no customer have ever asked for stripes, although they have commented on the finish of the rear roller, great topic.
Any gardener starting out should definitely go for four wheels.
Agree if they have a bigger budget then pay alittle more for a decent all rounder
Like I said in my video if my rear roller breaks then everyone will have a a 4 wheeler cut I’m not going to by another rear roller at £1700 just to please a few customers when the most don’t mind to much
what they haven't had they don't miss. stripes definitely add that special touch but a roller mower just not practical for most of my lawns.😊
@@thegeordiefellwalker8878 hi mate that’s a fair comment on smaller lawns and even some medium I don’t always it really depends on a few factors
Lawn type is it long wet etc if the 4 wheeler is lighter and easier then I’ll use that
Most of my clients tell me early on what they like or prefer
I try to only use the rear roller on the dry lawns
Depends on the job really. I’ve always used Stihl/Hayter/toro roller mowers for vast majority of my work. I prefer the stripes personally. I’ve got one 4 wheeler for the rougher ground maintenance that doesn’t require a tidier finish. Saying that though, my clients never asked for a roller or 4 wheeler as their preferred cut to begin with but they do mention the liking the stripes so I better not change it! 👍🏼
Hi Andrew I’d say situations very similar or tho a few do prefer the stripes
Thanks for checking in buddy really appreciate it mate
@@THETATTOOGARDENER83 no problem mate, I enjoy the channel 👍🏼
I always used roller mowers for years because the cut is much better but they just break too often when used a lot on bumpy ground and can be expensive for repair. Four wheel machines are far more reliable so now its four wheel unless someone is really keen and are a good customer.
That’s a very true comment I can speak from many expensive bills and repairs on rear rollers going
I like the finish of the stripes but if everyone could just have a normal cut then I’d use the 4 wheeler too
Personally I just use a Honda 4 wheeler but then the majority of my clients and gardens are more average sized houses/gardens. A couple who want stripes have their own roller mowers that I use.
I also think it depends on the lawn. Most lawns look better with stripes but some odd shaped ones or bumpy lawns actually can look worse with stripes in my opinion.
It's also worth remembering that rear roller mowers cost significantly more to buy and also repair so if providing stripes, it needs to be at a higher price.
Before I went self-employed, I used to work for a maintenance company that prided themselves on a premium garden maintenance service and they only used Hayter roller mowers and it did leave a lovely finish, but ultimately for the vast majority of my customers, they wouldn't want to pay the extra that a rear roller mower would add to the price of their cut .
I think that the lawns you stripe in your videos do look far better for having stripes so I can see why the clients want them.
Hi jack thanks for sharing the comment mate I think my best advice to any new gardeners would be to buy a 4 wheeler they are cheaper and good for all lawn types as you’ve just said
I did a lawn today with my hayter and it was all over the place sloped and bumpy
I’d love to try a battery powered mower at somepoint I think them ego mowers look ideal for lawns in tricky places or on raised beds
Equally gardens with tight access I think grass cut plus (Brad) uses them and he says they’re really good
Thanks for the great comment mate 😎🙌🏼
I carry a very basic mower it's a stihl battery 4 wheel mower.
For me personally I like 4 wheels, we do have jobs that have mowers with rollers and we do use them.
But that's me I rather spend time in a border that be cutting grass, we do very little grass cutting.
It's all gravy
Hi Matt hope you’ve had a good day mate
If you like weeding work I’ll happily take you on 😂 I find weeding work painful on my knees
Thanks for watching and clearing up the quote 👌🏼
Hi Pete I run 3 mowers Honda hrd roller , hayter 17” pro and etesia , I use the roller for the nice lawns and etesia for everything else,not that the etesia doesn’t do a good job. But if I also could only have one mower etesia every time, I’ve had mine since 2016 and it’s done some work, only one break down drive belt but could still use.
Hi Neil it’s a brilliant mower the etesia it’s by far the best all rounder I’ve ever used
If I could recommend any mower to new gardeners that have a good budget for a mower then id have to recommend the etesia
Great video pete. I don't have a choice I only have 1 mower 4 wheeled battery makita. Gives a nice cut struggles on the long wet stuff but have to persevere can't justify buying a new 1 just yet. No customers complain about lack of stripes but I double cut most of my lawns which are small to medium and the couple of large lawns are more moss than grass so would be wasted anyway. Keep up the good work bro. I hope to be in the same kit and skill level as you in a couple more years. I used to love the hayter and viking when I was in the tool trade.
Hi buddy thanks for the comment I’ve not tried any battery mowers but really would love too purely so I can see what they are like but also to consider for future jobs incase I have any with tight access
At the moment I turn those jobs away however if I had a smaller battery mower that I can fold and squeeze down tight passageways then all of a sudden I can take on jobs that I might have had to turn away in the past
Keep up the great work and massive thanks for the support 😎🙌🏼
@THETATTOOGARDENER83 as with electric cars there a couple of years away still. It does everything I need for regular mowing. It's not small or light though. Weighs 40+kg 21" self drive. Steel deck. There are some really good light weight ones that fold up compact the good thing with battery you don't have to worry about fuel or oil leaks standing or tipping it over.
@@swatsnatch I’d like to try the ego battery mower I’ve heard that’s quite a good mower
@THETATTOOGARDENER83 the ego gear looks really good. I'd like to have a blast on there stuff invested in the makita heavily so I hope they bring out some decent upgrades to there mowers
Honda 4 wheelers stripe as long as you look after the rear flap , this can also help sell a weekly service to maintain them :) . I had hayter pros but my back gave in or the ramps got in the way .
Morning buddy my little Izzy puts a sort of stripe down as you say from the flap on the back it’s also lighter than my hayter and as I get older I will prefer to use lighter equipment
Thanks for watching have a great day
@@THETATTOOGARDENER83 Izzy is more of a mower for slow work like fortightly postage stamps , its geared very slow for that purpose and to be honest not good in wet at all. the HRN 536 VK 21 is a nice Budget 4 wheel striper and the Pro models above that even more so . Maintaining the Flap is key tho ,after all a stripe is merely Light refraction so once you get the grass quality and the mower maintenance right its all about frequency of cut, a lot of old Pros convince their customers for Twice weekly then you know you have made it :)
@@OFP2 my Izzy basically gathers dust it’s just a back up for real emergency situations
The etesia is brilliant in all weather and never let me down touch wood
@@THETATTOOGARDENER83 yeah I’m seeing a lot of good things about the etesia as an all rounder may consider one in future
Every lawn can be different to the next , and also access to the said lawn I actually run 6 mowers just for the fact the larger lawns I use stihl and Honda pro , medium to small I use stihl batterie or hayter 41 pro and then Honda izy with twin mulching blades for rough grass and mulching leafs and hedge cuttings and a Honda hrx hydrostatic for grass slopes I judge what ever area is suited to which mower I use which helps pro long the life of the machines , example thick mossy lawn I’m not going to put a roller on it as it won’t look good where a 4 wheeler probably do a better job , up steps I’m not going to lift the big boys up so use the lighter hayter pro or stihl battery basically what ever works best for me and the equipment and can to the best job possible.
@@Bensgardenmaintenance19 hi Ben top comment
We do a huge range of gardens big small raised lawns and lawns in tricky places
I’ve only got the three mowers I’d like to add a battery mower to my fleet in the future
Thanks for the comment bro have a good rest of the week
have stripers does make it better also with clay soil they dont leave ruts in the lawn due to weight and soft ground when its rained
I only use my hayter when it’s dry soon as we get rain or wet grass I have to use my etesia but really grateful to be able to carry when it’s wet
@@THETATTOOGARDENER83 it is hard having to unblock the shelf of wet grass
Personally I'm more concerned about the health and welfare of me, my customer and the environment so I'm not even taking a glance at a petrol powered mower or machine! Pumping out toxic fumes right under my nose and around the customers property is not good for anybody and theres the added noise too.
Not sure youve tried cordless mowers but im hoping that with big enough batteries I can do a whole load of mowing before I run out of juice!?!
Personally I love my Bosch 370Li. Its also really light weight too. Im not the strongest guy so its great for me lol!
I just got a stihl battery strimmer and thats light weight and quiet too 😍
Hi buddy appreciate the comment it’s nice to hear what others are doing
I’m in the process of looking for a battery mower I’m really keen to try the ego and see if it’s as good as people say
I’d love nothing more than to use battery as it’s quiet less smoky and you can start work earlier being so silent
Hi mate was just wondering if you could come and see a job in Charlwood
What is it mate
Possibly you’d have to inbox me the address and I’ll let you know when I’m next that way
🥔
@@eduardosapples1997 thanks for watching buddy
Stihl roller mowers still work well on wet grass. Hondas and hayters are prety much useless on wet grass. Etesias are more utilitarian mowers, great machines but dont give a nice finish for finer lawns in my opinion.
Now that’s a mower I’d love to try aswell is that because of the plastic box that helps it cut so well in the wet
i prefer wheeled less problamatic machine especialy lighter the better no ruts
Hi Russel thanks for the comment I agree with this definitely less to go wrong with them and lighter to use
Thanks for watching buddy
You could just brush it.
I wish I had the time for it mate
It’s a no brainer for me. Get the roller, stripes look way more professional.
It really does leave a beautiful finish and nearly every client who’s had stripes always compliment on the finish