I tried one the lock out is cool but for the actual shifter the bdh blows it out the water in terms of build quality and that robustness of changing gears. I’m someone whom is very lucky to grow up with mk2 escort and rs cosworths I honestly don’t think you will get a closer feeling with the BDH to the real thing
Oh definitely the bdh is more robust, you can really hammer on that shifter and I definitely have. I'm still liking the bash more but then again, it's exactly what I've been looking for these past couple years feeling wise.
Thanks for this video and all your videos on this channel and your main channel. Im on the waitlist for the next batch and was unsure about getting it. Great that you have 1st hand experience with all the high end shifters. Any recommendations on a pedal set with a realistic clutch feel to pair with this shifter? Please keep on keeping on
I have not felt any pedal set with a convincing clutch pedal. I have had to modify every pedal set I've owned to feel more like what I expect. Keep in mind I have never felt a top quality clutch pedal, only consumer level sports cars.
If you can set up a rig like that I'm sure you could pray paint the gear shift knob any color you want in kess than an hour, a bit of under coat then you can have it any color of the rainbow.
This should really become the standard, the whole point of simulation is to get as close as possible to the real thing, and this shifter does just that! Sure, you can still immerse yourself banging gears without any consequence with all the others, but none will ever get as close to reality than this! (I just wish I wasn't too broke to buy this shifter, oh well, I guess my $50,00 Aliexpess shifter will do for now! xD)
Hi. There is a dedicated "truck" mode in the shifter software. As soon as it recognizes you're playing ETS2 or ATS, it switches to a different mode. The shifter work seamlessly together with the game logic, meaning you're never off sync with the game. If you're grinding gears, you won't get past the gate. The game wants you to shift slow, you have to play by their rules. :) The truck shift knob is just another nice extra, but not a requirement.
@@gerzsone30Have you actually tried it in game? Apparently it looks at what gearbox you have selected in the gameplay settings (scania 12+2, ZF, Volvo, Eaton etc).
@@lukebraddford3287 Yes, I have tried. You have to choose advanced H shifter mode in game. My preference is ZF 16 gear. That matches my MAN TGX knob. For the lockout to work, the pattern chosen is irrelevant.
Ya man, i expected it to feel good but when I actually got to use it in game it was a bit mind blowing. I have yet to custom tune how it feels but I know it can feel even better with some tweaking. Like shifter ffb lol
The wait time is huge so I just got a bdh. Not sure if I took an L. Would be great to have the clutch feature but oh well. Considering the design though I feel the bdh should have a better shifting feel overall, the feeling in neutral included. Not sure.
I've never felt a quaife h-pattern but I've heard it feels pretty close. I think the shifter feels great it could feel so much better with a lockout feature though.
I had to wait a couple months or more for this bash but luckily you kinda forget you ordered it after a while and time goes by and you get that email that it's available! Lol
please build an SRT gearbox and let us know which is better :D LOL I am #27 on the bash waitlist and need to know if I should bite the bullet or build the SRT. thank you
I hate to be the 1st one to say it if I am but the shift knob you are un-happy with is $15-$25 canadian with prime (I know because I have the same one) so that being said I'm not sure how much material your and components your overpaying for vs the RND and completed unit prepared for you shipped to your door. At almost $1300 USD I think I'd expect a bit more tbh. I guess this all being said if you have a sim set up worth 10k+ your money is your money so spend it as you please
@SleepyPantsSimRacing so the set up does have a clutch pedal, 3 pedals, clutch left, break middle, eccelerator right, some set ups just have two peddles or you can change gears without having to use the clutch which in real life it wouldnt let you change gears plus it would crunch & grind you gears teeth into metal shards. ⚙️🔧⚙️, when we were teens my older brother bought a 125cc dirt bike & put the engine into a 160cc frame he was changing gears without a clutch cable like a moron & shattered the gear box into a can of springs.
That neat I suppose, I'd wanna use the clutch peddle to be as real as possible, you can use VR head sets too can't you so you can look down at you legs & out the rear window & in the car etc.
It's definitely a LOT! BUT there is so much value in the act of sim racing. The safety, the practice, the entertainment etc. It really is a gift that keeps giving with way less maintenance than a real car.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacingI agree but companies need to realize the world sell more and more people could enjoy items for less. Also at $1100 your shifter should have been tested before being shipped and would have known it didn’t work. Also at the price it should have a better look with smooth sides and not nut sticking out and a box to house the electronics. Also an option in shift knobs or at least color options
@simrig412 I agree, lower prices would be best and I also agree it looks a bit raw for the money. I'm definitely not defending it should have a better fit and finish for the price but the feelimg it offers is worth it to my hands. :)
@hyungseopq if you don't push the clutch in, the shifter will not let you into the gear. Also the lock is programmable so you can adjust in the software how hard (or easy) it is to get into the gear.
Agreed, if they had treated me better after spending muiple thousands of dollars with thier company, I might still be using fanatec gear an not badmouthing them whenever someone reminds me of what they did to me.
I have one of these and I absolutely hate it. The gates are not rounded which feels awful, the shifting action is far too harsh, it's extremely fucking loud, it takes too long to change gear which slows me down, it's quite sharp and I've cut myself on it several times, it occasionally disconnects, and the sequential mode is absolutely useless. Good concept, poor execution. Wish I bought a BDH instead.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing i had to send mine back. i hope they redesign the hal sensor because i think the shifter can get out of calibration due to the design of that part.
@alles_Freaks oh ya, I think we talked about that before. I'm sure revisions are in the works. Products like these will probably have multiple revisions before they are "perfect". I was very frustrated when my first unit didn't work but I'm so glad I stayed calm and let them Correct the issue.
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You've done it...you finally made a better video than me...I'm jealous.
Thank you father...you created me, I am ever grateful. Maybe one day we can scale the peak of Killamanjaro hand in hand, foot in foot.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing Uuh... Ookay. :D
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I also have the bash pro and it is first time I felt like a real car shifting. Happy with the purchase.
Same. It's what simracing has been missing for so long, hpattern-wise.
You really know how to present stuff;) Nice content as always!
Thank you so much! Glad you enjoyed it!!!
Love this guys shit. Big fan
Thank you so much!!!
I tried one the lock out is cool but for the actual shifter the bdh blows it out the water in terms of build quality and that robustness of changing gears. I’m someone whom is very lucky to grow up with mk2 escort and rs cosworths I honestly don’t think you will get a closer feeling with the BDH to the real thing
Oh definitely the bdh is more robust, you can really hammer on that shifter and I definitely have. I'm still liking the bash more but then again, it's exactly what I've been looking for these past couple years feeling wise.
Thanks for this video and all your videos on this channel and your main channel. Im on the waitlist for the next batch and was unsure about getting it. Great that you have 1st hand experience with all the high end shifters. Any recommendations on a pedal set with a realistic clutch feel to pair with this shifter? Please keep on keeping on
I have not felt any pedal set with a convincing clutch pedal. I have had to modify every pedal set I've owned to feel more like what I expect. Keep in mind I have never felt a top quality clutch pedal, only consumer level sports cars.
They are so realistic now that F1 drivers practice on them with the vibration & movement etc.
Motion rigs? Yes indeed
If you can set up a rig like that I'm sure you could pray paint the gear shift knob any color you want in kess than an hour, a bit of under coat then you can have it any color of the rainbow.
With how often I grab my knob...it would peel right off. I grab my knob aggressively...over and over. Day and night.
Ha, yeah hilarious, it's a good one that, very funny!
This should really become the standard, the whole point of simulation is to get as close as possible to the real thing, and this shifter does just that! Sure, you can still immerse yourself banging gears without any consequence with all the others, but none will ever get as close to reality than this!
(I just wish I wasn't too broke to buy this shifter, oh well, I guess my $50,00 Aliexpess shifter will do for now! xD)
Yes, the price is really a large obstacle in the way of this design proliferating.
You sure Bash'd it in this video
Lol mostly with my driving.
I am curious how it behaves if used on truck simulators like ATS and ETS with high gears more than what you mentioned.
There is an attachment that connects directly to the knob threads that can extend your gear amount, I believe.
Hi. There is a dedicated "truck" mode in the shifter software. As soon as it recognizes you're playing ETS2 or ATS, it switches to a different mode. The shifter work seamlessly together with the game logic, meaning you're never off sync with the game. If you're grinding gears, you won't get past the gate. The game wants you to shift slow, you have to play by their rules. :) The truck shift knob is just another nice extra, but not a requirement.
@@gerzsone30Have you actually tried it in game? Apparently it looks at what gearbox you have selected in the gameplay settings (scania 12+2, ZF, Volvo, Eaton etc).
@@lukebraddford3287 Yes, I have tried. You have to choose advanced H shifter mode in game. My preference is ZF 16 gear. That matches my MAN TGX knob. For the lockout to work, the pattern chosen is irrelevant.
They are already sold out. Pretty cool man, kind of pricey, but looks to be worth it indeed.
Ya man, i expected it to feel good but when I actually got to use it in game it was a bit mind blowing. I have yet to custom tune how it feels but I know it can feel even better with some tweaking. Like shifter ffb lol
The wait time is huge so I just got a bdh. Not sure if I took an L. Would be great to have the clutch feature but oh well. Considering the design though I feel the bdh should have a better shifting feel overall, the feeling in neutral included. Not sure.
I've never felt a quaife h-pattern but I've heard it feels pretty close. I think the shifter feels great it could feel so much better with a lockout feature though.
I had to wait a couple months or more for this bash but luckily you kinda forget you ordered it after a while and time goes by and you get that email that it's available! Lol
And no, you didn't take an L, you still have one of the best feeling shifters on the market.
Tried them both buddy, I walked away with a BDH. If your after the most realistic feel the BDH is the closest you can get 👍
@@matthewscarborough4920 Have you tried the pro-sim? The eye test tells me it could better, but I chose to get a bdh for other reasons.
I was expecting expensive, but holy shit that costs more then my real car
Lol damn! It's not a cheap device.
please build an SRT gearbox and let us know which is better :D LOL I am #27 on the bash waitlist and need to know if I should bite the bullet or build the SRT. thank you
Lol I'd love to but I don't have the funds for that. :(
I hate to be the 1st one to say it if I am but the shift knob you are un-happy with is $15-$25 canadian with prime (I know because I have the same one) so that being said I'm not sure how much material your and components your overpaying for vs the RND and completed unit prepared for you shipped to your door. At almost $1300 USD I think I'd expect a bit more tbh. I guess this all being said if you have a sim set up worth 10k+ your money is your money so spend it as you please
I have heard the shift knob is a cheapie lol. I'm accepting of it. Just would prefer a different option.
Does it have a clutch pedal?
The shifter? No, just uses whatever clutch pedal you are already using.
@SleepyPantsSimRacing so the set up does have a clutch pedal, 3 pedals, clutch left, break middle, eccelerator right, some set ups just have two peddles or you can change gears without having to use the clutch which in real life it wouldnt let you change gears plus it would crunch & grind you gears teeth into metal shards. ⚙️🔧⚙️, when we were teens my older brother bought a 125cc dirt bike & put the engine into a 160cc frame he was changing gears without a clutch cable like a moron & shattered the gear box into a can of springs.
@@mjmellan you can also use this unit without a clutch pedal. It's not required, just for the syncromesh lockout, you would want a clutch.
That neat I suppose, I'd wanna use the clutch peddle to be as real as possible, you can use VR head sets too can't you so you can look down at you legs & out the rear window & in the car etc.
@@mjmellan correct, depending on the game of course.
Very nice shifter. But over $1100 is crazy for a shifter. At this point real racing is cheaper then buying sim parts
It's definitely a LOT! BUT there is so much value in the act of sim racing. The safety, the practice, the entertainment etc. It really is a gift that keeps giving with way less maintenance than a real car.
It’s $1600 here in Australia
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@@SleepyPantsSimRacingI agree but companies need to realize the world sell more and more people could enjoy items for less.
Also at $1100 your shifter should have been tested before being shipped and would have known it didn’t work. Also at the price it should have a better look with smooth sides and not nut sticking out and a box to house the electronics. Also an option in shift knobs or at least color options
@simrig412 I agree, lower prices would be best and I also agree it looks a bit raw for the money. I'm definitely not defending it should have a better fit and finish for the price but the feelimg it offers is worth it to my hands. :)
So is there a reason why you didn't tell us how much it cost !
I think I paid 1100.00 after everything.
Whoa, this is SIIIIIICK! to bad it's not console compatible 😢
Ya...it's a game changer, it's exactly what I've been looking for.
So you really feel this shifter is better than the BDH??
Yes, it's a better feeling shifter than anything I've felt before. The lockout feature is really game-changing.
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing ok check ✅
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing What exactly does the lock function do?
@hyungseopq if you don't push the clutch in, the shifter will not let you into the gear. Also the lock is programmable so you can adjust in the software how hard (or easy) it is to get into the gear.
For $1k for a shifter they better fucking have good customer service
Lol true dat!
Too bad fanatec doesn’t learn from companies like this one, where customer service is key… ;)
Agreed, if they had treated me better after spending muiple thousands of dollars with thier company, I might still be using fanatec gear an not badmouthing them whenever someone reminds me of what they did to me.
1400 bucsk thats more that my wheel base and pedals combined no thanks maybe if i find a money tree somewhere
Fair nuff. It's top dollar for its unique features, if you're into bang for your buck, this is definitely not it. Lol
I have one of these and I absolutely hate it. The gates are not rounded which feels awful, the shifting action is far too harsh, it's extremely fucking loud, it takes too long to change gear which slows me down, it's quite sharp and I've cut myself on it several times, it occasionally disconnects, and the sequential mode is absolutely useless.
Good concept, poor execution. Wish I bought a BDH instead.
Interesting, have you tried tuning the gates or trying the shifter in dogbox mode from the factory setting?
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Kuuuujoeee! Why the sad face?
@@SleepyPantsSimRacing i had to send mine back. i hope they redesign the hal sensor because i think the shifter can get out of calibration due to the design of that part.
@alles_Freaks oh ya, I think we talked about that before. I'm sure revisions are in the works. Products like these will probably have multiple revisions before they are "perfect". I was very frustrated when my first unit didn't work but I'm so glad I stayed calm and let them Correct the issue.
Lol. The quality of that thing and the price is just a joke. Pricing of these ripoff company's is insane
It's very expensive but it feels so good so it's hard to say it's a ripoff In my eyes.