Paris Almost Looked Like This: Exploring Le Corbusier's Plan Voisin

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  • čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
  • #architect #architecture #lecorbusier #urbandesign #urbanplanning #modernism #history
    You who love the intimate village atmosphere of our cities, you would have hated Le Corbusier. Since Le Corbusier presented this plan in 1925, he has been rejected and criticized for his idea and even considered barbaric by some critics. And I can’t see anyone at the time accepting this plan, even his supporters unanimously hated this idea. He claimed that this would save paris but in reality this plan was so drastic that it might have killed the urban spirit of paris that we know today.
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Komentáře • 81

  • @archidots
    @archidots  Před rokem +6

    Unité D'habitation : a bad prototype of modern social housing czcams.com/video/MPZ1myRJudY/video.html

  • @JohnFromAccounting
    @JohnFromAccounting Před rokem +31

    Haussmann was a visionary because he wasn't an architect. He was a practical man above all. At the time, he was criticized for making a city that made it too easy for the military to shut down protestors. How French. But this turned Paris into the most iconic city layout in continental Europe.

  • @federicocamilo7917
    @federicocamilo7917 Před rokem +66

    Excellent video! As an architect I say, we must move as fast as we can away from…. Le Corb!

    • @sebastiancoamo6262
      @sebastiancoamo6262 Před rokem +2

      Does that include the Unités? How about the sculptural allure of Ronchamp? The use of color in the facade?

    • @curanki8868
      @curanki8868 Před rokem +1

      ​@@sebastiancoamo6262 exactly, le Corbusier had some ideas that the majority of people would consider bad, but some of his works are masterpieces!

    • @debbrueggemann3762
      @debbrueggemann3762 Před rokem +2

      Anybody calling him leCorb is sadly silly. Corbu is the correct nickname

    • @someinteresting
      @someinteresting Před 3 měsíci

      @@curanki8868Examples, please.

  • @adamcheklat7387
    @adamcheklat7387 Před rokem +35

    Le Corbusier can take his designs and hurl it into the Sun.

  • @johnkeviljr9625
    @johnkeviljr9625 Před rokem +31

    Aye Yi Yi. While I was in Architecture School back in the '70's, we studied Corbu, among many others. Modernism is one thing, but this mania is something else. Planning cities is a fool's errand. Cities must grow and evolve over time. This all-at-once stuff is terrible. I think Corbu might have been a sociopath. Would he ever live in this crap? I am sure that he would not. Great video, good food for thought. Consider Brasilia, or Walt Disney's City of Epcot (Experimental Prototype Community of Tomorrow), or Wrigt's Broadacre City - megalomania at it's best/worst. Silliness.

    • @mikeyreza
      @mikeyreza Před rokem +2

      I agree with you on all of this. Especially Corbu being a sociopath. But many people still believed in his principles. Look at the housing projects of Chicago and NYC. Thankfully they are (mostly) all gone now, but I don't think the public actually learned any lessons -- people saw what happened and just assumed that the projects failed because they've been taught that poor people are inherently immoral and do crime.

    • @barbaraaraujo7700
      @barbaraaraujo7700 Před 11 měsíci

      Corbusier's disciple, Lucio Costa, one of the creators of Brasília, wanted to destroy all the old buildings in Rio de Janeiro from the Beaux-art architecure (Eclectic architecture). He even managed to achieve his objective in one of them: the beautiful Monroe Palace, which was destroyed after a campaign by Costa, a palace he considered ugly and foreign.
      Today, the demolition of the Monroe Palace is considered a tragedy for Brazil's artistic and historical heritage and no one pays attention to the horrible Capanema Palace, created and listed by Lucio Costa in Rio de Janeiro.

    • @johnkeviljr9625
      @johnkeviljr9625 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@barbaraaraujo7700 Barbara, Destroy the old (a better Building) to build the new, bland soulless buildings. I did not not know this story about Monroe Palace, which makes the situation worse. Thank You for telling the truly terrible and sad story about the Monroe Palace.

    • @johnkeviljr9625
      @johnkeviljr9625 Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@mikeyreza Mike, Excellent points. I agree 100%. Thank You.

    • @mikeyreza
      @mikeyreza Před 11 měsíci

      @@johnkeviljr9625 Thank you John

  • @psomariante
    @psomariante Před rokem +12

    In 1929, he designed a kilometer-long elevated road for Rio de Janeiro with hundreds of apartments hanging from it, cutting through the city's hills and beaches. I am thinking he had a plan to destroy the most beautiful cities in the world.

    • @al4381
      @al4381 Před rokem +1

      He wanted to demolish all of Stockholm, including the Old City, which has parts still intact from medieval times, to turn the Old City into a huge park. The rest would be turned into a giant block-like building, that would continuously snake accross the entire Southern Isle.
      Now the Swedish government would demolish most of northern Stockholm some decades later, but at least they preserved the Old City...

    • @31000or
      @31000or Před 10 měsíci

      He had the same desire to do so in the city of Algiers, as he was close to destroy the historical part of the city that is at the least 10 centuries old

  • @JamesBond-qm1iy
    @JamesBond-qm1iy Před rokem +4

    Le Corbusier' s Architecture ist a dystopian nightmare .

  • @laurentcorbellini2383
    @laurentcorbellini2383 Před rokem +7

    He forgot humains have souls, they need to see beautiful things and variety. They no longer build those things in the suburbs nowadays.

    • @MrMirville
      @MrMirville Před rokem

      He didn't forget humans have souls : what he wanted to do with the souls to make them heaven-worthy is another discussion. Read his books : half of the text is religious literally : you should this, you shall not that, you should put a lamp here, you should never put that useless lamp there. You should do exercise for one hour after work, you should watch TV 15 mn no more, then you should do yoga or do school work. He considers attachment to decoration is a sin to be combated by a life-long discipline. He even prescribed what food the inhabitants were supposed to cook for their body and soul. He prescribed the right colours for each activity. A big calvinistic monastery.

  • @HistoriaenCeluloide
    @HistoriaenCeluloide Před rokem +11

    So is thanks to him that today we are stuck with horrible looking modern cities🧐

  • @TalwinderDhillonTravels
    @TalwinderDhillonTravels Před rokem +8

    If anyone is interested in how his plans would’ve turned out, lookup Chandigarh.
    He actually did end up designing a city from scratch

    • @mikeyreza
      @mikeyreza Před rokem +3

      Lots of public housing in the US was inspired by his work. Most of the examples you can find were destroyed decades ago because of how badly his design principles worked in real life.

    • @TalwinderDhillonTravels
      @TalwinderDhillonTravels Před rokem +1

      @@mikeyreza yep but Chandigarh is holding on to that on the name of heritage 😂

  • @benitopitopol
    @benitopitopol Před rokem +13

    Lets face it... what L.C. proposed became reality in many parts of the world. A true prophet.

  • @michaelstadnikfilm
    @michaelstadnikfilm Před rokem +4

    This deserves more views!

  • @sebastiancoamo6262
    @sebastiancoamo6262 Před rokem +3

    I just found out about your channel. I am eager to see your next videos. Welcome to youtube!

  • @aristeon5908
    @aristeon5908 Před rokem +9

    Le Corbusier's plans were too extreme and dogmatic, but he created some concepts that have been very infuential and successful. For example, many new towns in Hong Kong clearly show LC's influence. I lived there and I found them great. Also, what constitutes human scale is very debatable. I prefer to live in a residential skyscraper surrounded by great infrastructure and lots of shops than in low rise low density neighbourhoods that only have the bare minimum. It all depends on how these concepts are implemented and improved upon.

    • @hufficag
      @hufficag Před rokem +4

      When you leave home how long do you walk to some good restaurants, a couple bakeries, the farmers market, supermarkets, and cafes. I lived in various cities. Currently in Nanjing Liuhe district, where they built LeCorbusier style towers and wide roads. I'm actually in the process of renting an apartment in a residential glass skyscraper with good windows because the residential skyscraper community I live in now (Longcuifanting if you want to look it up on the map) has tiny recessed windows and closely spaced houses that permit only 1 hour of sunshine per day. I also live in Yangjiang, which has high density 5-storey buildings, very human scale and livable. I think Yangjiang is much more livable and enjoyable.

    • @aristeon5908
      @aristeon5908 Před rokem +1

      @@hufficag recessed windows have nothing to do with height, that's just a really silly choice from the architect. There are also old low or medium height buildings with small windows. The residential skyscrapers where I lived had large enough windows. I also don't know what this "human scale" trope means. Most buildings in HK have 24/7 security, they are surrounded by efficient public transport, parks, sports grounds etc. There's no way you can get such high quality of infrastructure and services in a med-rise middle class or lower middle class neighbourhood.

    • @hufficag
      @hufficag Před rokem +3

      @@aristeon5908 I think human scale means it feels comfortable to be there and convenient to walk around. Larger scale is designed for driving at high speed in cars, and some larger buildings are grand and imposing by making everything oversized. I didn't say recessed windows have something to do with height. The building I'm in now (龙翠芳庭)may be designed to be cheap. Most of the residents are unpleasant old villagers that glare at you and are impossible to have a conversation with. That's why I told the real estate agent I want floor to ceiling windows and she's taking me around the fancy buildings (欢乐港,万达广场,理想城). I also love HK and love urban living, high density housing, mixed zoning, where shopping, parks, are mixed with residential. I hate it when you have to walk too far like in suburban Canada, that's why I came to China. I want to be able to walk to the bars, gym, supermarket, great coffee shops etc.

    • @aristeon5908
      @aristeon5908 Před rokem +1

      @@hufficag cheap buildings may suck even if they're not tall. I felt very comfortable in my high rise neighbourhood. There was a 24/7 reception in every building, the cost of which was divided among a lot of people, which makes it very affordable. If you only have a few households in a building it's far too expensive. There was a convenience store, a local restaurant and a park downstairs, the metro station and a huge shopping mall were across the street. What's uncomfortable about that? Moreover, I didn't hear any traffic or street noise. To me it was very cozy.

    • @hufficag
      @hufficag Před rokem +1

      @@aristeon5908 It is very comfortable. I love living in Kowloon. I love eating at the 24hr diners.

  • @Andrea-lj4jg
    @Andrea-lj4jg Před rokem +12

    Le Corbusier is the perfect example of an architect that should NEVER be listened to.

  • @mikeyreza
    @mikeyreza Před rokem +1

    I don't understand why city planners and architects seem to love terrible ideas so much. Paris is obviously an exception, but Le Corbusier's designs caught on in many other parts of the world, and his principles are still practiced today. How long will it take until this modernist madness ends?

  • @gabrielmarengo1244
    @gabrielmarengo1244 Před 4 dny

    Himself admited before him die, that the projects he idealized, for grace, not growd up. In the end of him life, he recognized the errors around him projects.

  • @robertschumacher9640
    @robertschumacher9640 Před rokem +5

    a true maniac

  • @federicozimerman8167
    @federicozimerman8167 Před rokem +3

    Elitist “artistes” need a stage to sell their crap. Corbu is acceptable in the middle of nowhere.

  • @MarkLL1961
    @MarkLL1961 Před rokem +2

    It's astounding how much his site plan derives from the hated and inhuman Roman castrum plan, the encampment-to-colony plan. The similarity begins with refuting cultural dynamism as the engine of urban development in favor of such a totalitarian imposition. Ghastly. These site plans and building plans actually resemble many of the very worst examples of coercive architecture in human history, including prisons, concentration camps, and nightmarish versions of public housing. Awful!

  • @lavillenouvelle
    @lavillenouvelle Před rokem +1

    Finally, most of Le Corbusier's plan has been put in practice, albeit in a less disruptive way. The Center of Paris has been demolished to make way for the train station of Châtelet Les Halles, and New towns have grown east (Marne-La-Vallée) and West (La Défense) of Paris.
    The main differences between the plan and its implementation are the motorway, which is circular and not radial, and the towers, that have been built here and there, wherever there was a free space. (some of them are just next to the Tour Eiffel)

  • @dickystrike6966
    @dickystrike6966 Před rokem +3

    Almost every soviet city was corbuseed like this. The difference is that soviet concrete was as poor that top heights were about 25 stores.

  • @casualgamer8450
    @casualgamer8450 Před rokem +1

    This city concept reminds me of Futurama(New Yorks World Fare)

  • @someinteresting
    @someinteresting Před 3 měsíci +1

    So, more or less Dubai is this joke of an architect’s dream. 🤮

  • @ssugd5789
    @ssugd5789 Před rokem +3

    This reminded me the Zaha Hadid's Masterplan project for Kartal İstanbul. Check it out, it's very weird.

    • @ernsthazenbroek9349
      @ernsthazenbroek9349 Před rokem

      Oh, absolutely she is inspired by LC his masterplans as you can see from his Algiers 1933 urban project as well. Nowadays hardly anyone knows them, 100 yrs ago!

    • @ssugd5789
      @ssugd5789 Před rokem

      ​@@ernsthazenbroek9349 Oh god, I'm glad they did not build random walls around Algiers!

  • @liamsingleton4214
    @liamsingleton4214 Před rokem +1

    A city plan with no soul.

  • @danny3man
    @danny3man Před rokem +1

    Sure when you compare it with the Paris that was built, it's a very bad vision and design... Now compare his vision/design for Paris with already built nightmare cities like...idk... Tokyo ?

  • @herravintage
    @herravintage Před rokem +5

    This plan is a mostly car centric, anti-human mess. Regardless of what a person thinks of modern architecture, or functionalism, you can still make a human-centric walkable city with any type of style. Including modern and functionalist styles. But Le Cobusier's plan for Paris barely benefits the pedestrian in any way whatsoever.

    • @MrMirville
      @MrMirville Před rokem

      He was not very car-centric. He said that cars for excursions should be rented in the place to visit and that commuting proper should be done in cushioned busses linked to a central route planning computer. He wanted the pedestrians to follow park pavements completely separate from roads.

    • @herravintage
      @herravintage Před rokem

      @@MrMirville I can understand that, however his design for Paris dedicates a large portion of urban space exclusively for automobiles. Hence why I think the design is ultimately car-centric and hostile to pedestrians.

  • @tommywong3147
    @tommywong3147 Před rokem +1

    He basically envisioned new Jersey with shitload more of public housing lol

  • @duncan8013
    @duncan8013 Před rokem +1

    Corbusier...worst architect of all time!

  • @maestromecanico597
    @maestromecanico597 Před rokem

    Brutal doesn’t even begin to cover this.

  • @evermar1
    @evermar1 Před rokem +4

    As an architect myself, I found this City planning only suitable for a fascist state. Thank God this was never followed thru in Paris, a tragedy for other Cities who have pursued this model.

    • @goodstuff8156
      @goodstuff8156 Před rokem +3

      The word “fascism” has been so misused that it has entirely lost all meaning, how does this city have anything to do with Mussolini?

  • @TheLusianPopa
    @TheLusianPopa Před rokem +1

    this nutty wanted to replace Paris with the Projects.....

  • @are3287
    @are3287 Před rokem

    Theres nothing more evil than hating beauty. A lot of 20th and 21st century architects were/are guilty of this.

  • @Dev1nci
    @Dev1nci Před rokem +7

    You should do a video explaining why modernism was needed. It will reveal A LOT about his motives. I understand your critique but as with all history, it’s not this simple.

    • @JohnFromAccounting
      @JohnFromAccounting Před rokem +8

      Modernism wasn't needed because Paris already had a new and efficient design from the Haussmann era.

    • @Dev1nci
      @Dev1nci Před rokem +1

      @@JohnFromAccounting Interesting argument :) ultimately that proved true in Paris I guess, thankfully XD
      I still think modernist architecture would be more suited economically to service a greater number of people however I've never researched it. (economically lead projects can be very negative for urban environments though).

    • @carlosimotti3933
      @carlosimotti3933 Před rokem

      Money and ego were his and modernism's motives

    • @Dev1nci
      @Dev1nci Před rokem

      @@carlosimotti3933 Ego was arguably part of it and it worked because of the financial viability of the schemes but I'd argue that greed wasn't really a driver. It's mass-housing, it needs to be economical so that more people can have housing.

  • @cameron.t
    @cameron.t Před rokem

    Wow amazing, I can see my soul screaming in the streets! It’s amazing how strong of a connection I feel to this 🤣

  • @harenterberge2632
    @harenterberge2632 Před rokem

    Dubai looks like that

  • @rchiproportion
    @rchiproportion Před rokem

    🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Yugoboss2
    @Yugoboss2 Před rokem

    Honestly this would be cool but not for Paris though. If it was a completely new city I personally wouldn't have anything against it

  • @rchiproportion
    @rchiproportion Před rokem

    ❤❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉

  • @Rimpala
    @Rimpala Před rokem

    ah yeah he wanted to turn Paris into a giant housing project lol

  • @MrMirville
    @MrMirville Před rokem +1

    The best way to rebuild a city is first to flatten the ground with a 20 megaton short half-life nuclear device and then trace the avenues along the radii of the explosion.

  • @bbas4251
    @bbas4251 Před rokem

    IT MAKES ME VOMIT! BETTER THE PLAN OF BARON DE HAUSSMAN! HE IS THE TRUE ARCHITECT AND THE GRANDSON OF NAPOLEON! MASTERMINDS🎉

  • @XTSu-sl1bb
    @XTSu-sl1bb Před 8 měsíci

    Looks like China

  • @paulsehstedt6275
    @paulsehstedt6275 Před rokem +5

    Housing was and still is a catastrophe in Paris, and of course worse 100 years ago. I understand LC's plan.

  • @user-jb8vn7vf1y
    @user-jb8vn7vf1y Před 7 měsíci

    looks like Dongtan New Town in korea. SERIOUSLY

  • @user-jb8vn7vf1y
    @user-jb8vn7vf1y Před 7 měsíci

    Le Corbusier was a pioneer of true new city planning. His spirit was succeeded by South Korea's new city planning.