PINK DIAMOND IS ALIVE!? Your Mother and Mine [Steven Universe Discussion] Crystal Clear
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Your Mother and Mine gave us Garnet's side of the Gem War, how the Off-Colors understood Rose Quartz and...something else rather unpleasant.
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Maybe the weapon she actually shattered Pink with is in the trunk? I really don’t want the cop out of “she just made it look like she shattered Pink” to be the truth. I hope Garnet was right when she said Pink was gone.
a Random unrelated Comment: what if the Diamond size matters depending on how many colonies they have?
Edit: Some Shows/Games/etc. follow a similar concept in how much power they have or gather over the time they'll grow in size
PD has none so she's the smallest
YD and BD have the same amount of Colonies so they're the same height
WD has the most colonies out of them so she's the tallest.
Just a random thought I wanted to throw out, no idea if that's actually true or not but might be something to point out(?)
Steven could be reacting to her shards instead of a fully intact Pink Diamond, hence why his pink diamond dream used Stevonnie and Connie’s mom in place of Pink and yellow Diamond because there were gaps in the shards memories.
But what if Pink Diamond is alive, but is CORRUPTED. What if Diamonds unintentionally destroyed one of their own because they thought she was dead? Wouldn't that be a bit entertaining?
Why no
Honey you've got a big storm comin
*pose*
*laughs hysterically after watching today's episode*
lol
"Shes gone"
-stevens gem light thing
Same
Thats right i heard the story over and over again
T.C. Green oof
The Roundtable is probably SOOO mad right now
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA Steven: someone who has pink diamonds gem, “What if she’s still out there.”
_are we sure this isn’t foreshadowing for finding her shards?_
Sam Dragonborn that's a great perspective! Kinda like how the shards in the cluster still had some sort of conciousness but didn't know who they were
Considering they included the shattering of a mirror in the dream, that's a good theory
seeing the first time Steven had a PD vision it was on another planet and Steven's past vision only happened when he was on the same planet of the gem in question i find it unlikely.
That would be the best possible outcome. Would be hecking rad.
Inuyasha reference, anyone?
Side note:
Padparadscha's "present sight" is once again being used to reveal info those around her are unaware of.
This time it's Garnet making the off colors uncomfortable and Lars pressing the wrong button.
Hopefully they keep this up, I like the potential things this can be used for.
I was happy that Padparadscha's powers were given a practical use, and she's not just comedic relief anymore. Having someone so astute who can say what's broken, where something is, what's going on, with absolute certainty truly has a gift.
Undernet
I really appreciate her "present vision" for this reason :)
this was acually one of m favorite things about the episode. Like do you know how much that can come in handy.
She can never lose her car keys
I was really hoping present vision would end up like this. Its more of other vision like this. She can see what's going on at other places.
I GUESS YOURE RIGHT, BC PINK DIAMOND IS ROSE QUARTZ FFS
Pumpkin Seed yep
Pink diamond is actually rose, Stevens mom. Get rekt
This video was made before that episode showed up. Get rekt!
Ishi Rivera Was a joke, and before the episode confirming this it was already a theory, git rekt
I thought you would actually say something like this, "Atleast he will get mad because Pink Diamond IS alive. Get rekt!" And I knew that it was a joke, get rekt!
I should really stop using "get rekt."
Facts bro
You were a spoiler 2 year ago
Well pink diamond is shattered maybe her memories were shattered so pieces of her still exist just like the cluster
That's what i just thought
I think that would actually play very nicely into the overall theme. I mean, so far we have seen the bad of pink diamond being shattered like the other diamonds grieving, as well as the good of earth being able to live on.
It's all about dealing with all the side effects of someone who plays a strong role in your life dying. Wouldn't it be fitting for that persons memories and feelings to still play a part in peoples lifes after she is already dead, in this case maybe even taking on a physical form by being shards spread across?
I really hope something like this will be the direction the show eventually heads in. No matter which one that may be, it would be great if the core message could be preserved.
Or her "soul" follows Steven around and whenever there is a place that she has been and Stevonnie is sleeping there then yeah. it's a flashback dream.
Nea 13 we still havent seen the good side of her yet. Since she's a navel gem
And Maybe Spit Was Used
What if she's corrupted?
That could lead to something. it'll make the diamonds feel really bad that they put one of they're own in that state of mind unless it was planned by one of them and then they work together to find out who did it.
I...REALLY like that idea. It could be an accidental self corruption or something.
I was also thinking of this. Good thinking
Diamonds cannot be corrupted
And the diamonds lied about it because them corrupting another diamond is not a good look
3:45
pink diamond still a live * goofy laugh*
Me : *has a stroke of laughter
It sounded cool to me that Pink Diamond wasn't shattered.
Gem shards still have some sort of consciousness. So for all we know, Steven could have communicated with her shards in Jungle Moon. I really don't know what route they're going to take. It's like we all try being Garnet, wanting to predict what's to come, but in the end we feel the same way she did in Pool Hopping.
Niklas Universe yeah
Nathan Poovey I agree with you
That's kind of what I assumed too
I agree with this soo much!
Let's hope you're right 😓
I’m so happy that Lars is going to meet Peridot!! Lol
Erick Galarza yeah, I bet that they would get along pretty well . They kinda have similar personalities and see the world kinda the same. Peridot could help him with dealing with his emotions and feelings because she has grown A LOT on this show.
Yoko Milan and help with the ship
I'm so happy about Lars meeting period
Sorenmine so you ship Lars and peridot 😎😎
John Morrison XD no. Not at all.
pink diamond is alive.
s h e ' s s t e v e n
Your actually right
The Roundtable :"Don't do it girl, it's not worth it."
The Crewniverse :"I won't do it girl, I was just thinking about it
...I did it"
I honestly don’t think this ruins the development of any of the characters tbh. The Diamonds still thought she was dead so of course they’d mourn and Rose May not have shattered pink but in a sense she still stole her life by making her entire family think she’s dead and abducting her and keeping her locked up for centuries that’s low-key screwed up all on its own.Rose is still the person the person who makes hard decisions just from a different angle.
Thank you
it bothered me that killing is seen as the only hard decision one can make in this regard, or that anything short of death is ok. sure she would be gone for good, but she'd never had to face her fate for more then the instant of her destruction. After all life can be a far crueler fate then a swift death, since the latter will only ever hurt those left behind, for more then the instant and the short period anticipating it.
Mittens It isn’t necessarily that it’s the only hard decision that someone could make. It’s mostly that this show has been going on and on and on and on and on about how Rose killed PD and how she wasn’t as good as we thought she was, and Steven has been trying to cope with that and accepting his mother’s decisions has literally shaped who he is now. It’s that they already pounded us in the face with this “truth” that Rose killed PD, and for PD to not actually be dead, it’d kinda render a lot of what the show has done to be way less impactful.
I don't think she's alive as in alive-alive. What I think what Steven means is that he's sensing the Teeny Little semi conciousness, that gemshards are known for. That's why he doesn't feel and see Things about Pink Diamond all the time like he did when he felt Blue's grief. I think, since Pink Diamond was a Diamond, regardless of overcooked or not, must have had a stronger and more powerful conciousness than common gems. So I think the parts of her shards that carry parts of her conciousness (the semi conciousness) might resonate stronger than other gemshards. That way, he could've had access to the shards' memories.
I don't know, it's just a thought.
This is actually something interesting I like it!
This could also definitely play into the theory that pink granted rose some of her powers- perhaps this power of Steven's combined with your idea that Pink's shards are still "alive" is what allows Steven to see these memories. I could have explained it better but it's late.
Well Steven was able to understand the cluster so that could be it!
I think pink diamond might be a part of the cluster.
I had a thought like this once... That Rose had fused with just a small shard of Pink after shattering. The cluster proved such a thing was possible. And her motivation to be a mother may have at least partly stemmed from her loyalty to her flawed, pitiful Diamond. Or regret from shattering her... And giving her the chance to be her own being, rather the born failure she was destined to be.
well. um. ya.
What if pink diamond wanted rose to bubble her because she was also getting a feeling and curiosity about the earth but she knew that if the other diamonds found out they would treat her even worse, tell her somthing like " your so weak you cant even keep your first colony (earth) running, your letting organic life forms trick you into not handleing business". Her making a human zoo would back up the fact she was interested in the earth, and why wouldnt she be since she is the defective one of the diamonds, and earth makes her realize thats ok. And for the war... She started it to try to proove to the diamonds that she could handle a gem who rebels or any other problem during colonization, but half way through the war, she realized that the war was doing too much damage to the earth and its lifeforms... So she confronted rose and asked her to bubble her to end the war and save herself from the trashtalk of the diamonds...........
BishDeDe Infinity OR she asked Rose to shatter her,to REALLY end the war.
Yeah or asked her to shatter her.. That would explain more
Watch the new episode.
Sugar Brown I just watched it
Sugar Brown THERE'S A NEW EPISODE!?!
We know that Steven can communicate with shattered gems because he could communicate with the cluster, there's some level of consciousness that still exists in a shattered gem. Consider: *Pink Diamond is indeed shattered, but not 'gone' - Steven can see her memories by using his empathetic powers to connect with her shattered remains, which still exist somewhere.*
Galaxxi I
For all we know pinks shards could be stored and Stevens own gem, it's not impossible.
pinks resurrection IS possible
Sydnie Spangler no
I agree, I think that Pink is indeed shattered, but Steven can still communicate with her like he did with the cluster
To be honest, I feel like that line was just some wishful thinking on Steven’s part. He still desperately wants to believe his mother would never shatter anyone, so he’s clinging to any hope he can. He’s basing Stevonnie’s vision on HIS power to see through the eyes of the living, but he didn’t factor in the FUSION’s influence on that power. We already know Stevonnie is supposed to have other new powers.
Now this is a quality content.
He must have raged so hard while watching a single pale rose
Rose = Pink Diamond = ALIVE 💠
Wait wait wait. Why would it be a bad thing if Pink diamond is alive? How would that be bad for the plot and theatrical effect? I mean, I can get why you are upset by it, Rose not making the tough call of killing someone when she doesn't want to kill, But that doesn't ruin the plot or theatrical effect at all. If anything that opens the show to a lot of possibilities. For example, You mentioned that Rose just poofing pink and Yellow killing her but what about the possibility that Pink left and when into hide herself for herself? Think about it, The Diamonds can easily puffing gems with no problem, hell Yellow pocked one to poof them so what chance did Rose really have against Pink. Easy Pink is the weakest of the diamonds sure but we know Rose didn't have the means to shatter Pink. Plus, Garnet's story has a huge flaw about Pink you missed. Garnet said Pink didn't care about the living beings on Earth and yet she had a zoo of human. Why would someone who is destroying a planet bother saving some of its living creates if they didn't care? All the other diamond don't do that, Just Pink. What if Pink actually agreed with Rose, realizing what it meant to colonizing a planet, and thought, "Oh shit, I don't won't this." After all Pink is childish sure but she may have been the only diamond that thought like Rose and wanted to help her but couldn't because of her sister diamonds. I mean, in every flashback that took place in the past during the gem war Pink was never shown to be the one giving the orders, Blue and Yellow were. Think of it like Yello and Blue being the older sister who are being over protection and blow thing out of proportions withPink the younger sister too scared of how the sisters she looks up to would react. So what if Pink and Rose came up with a plan? A plan to fake Pink's death? A plan the would cause Rose to sacrifice not her code of not killing but the trust of her comrades? What is Rose help Pink be free from her sisters without anyone knowing at the cost of all the crystal gems being corrupted? What if that was Rose's sacrifice? The lives of the many that may one day be rescued to save one.
Of course that is just my thoughts.
I love you.. Here i was thinking i was the only one thinking this
Glad to hear we share the same theory. *yetihug*
railgun676 Maybe with this theory we could end up having already seen pink just roaming earth in a different form. What if she's mystery girl?
👌👍
Trey Morgan Thats not possible and in the episode Kevins party we actually hear the mystery's girl name and that she was his ex girlfriend,so...that idea doesn't make any sense.Sry.
I don't think it would be an awful twist if done well... but I think Steven was speculating, too.
He's confused, as are we, by how Rose shattered Pink Diamond. How did she get so close in the first place? Where were her agates? Her sapphires? AND WHERE WAS HER PEARL? She didn't use the breaking point; she used her sword that only cuts through a gem's physical form, but never the gem. Garnet, Blue Diamond, and Eyeball basically told the same story. Even the teaser showed Steven questioning this.
I do like the idea of Steven communicating through gem shards. I still am iffy about her height difference compared to Blue and Yellow Diamond though, because Connie's consciousness also affected the dream.
Shut Up, Sprinkles! Same. Steven is still a kid. He was confronted with the fact that his mother killed Pink Diamond. So hearing about how Rose killed Pink with a sword, he could be grasping at straws for redeeming his mom.
Shut Up, Sprinkles! I would too but the height of the broken window is still as low as steven so i think that shows her height is that small. Does that make sense?
Alitza Vazquez nope. Bismuth, the gem whom made roses sword said that it couldnt shatter gems which is why they made the point break
+Shut Up, Sprinkles!
I agree. Also, I hate that "Nooo" scene.
Hasatanel Belial I love the NO GOD PLEASE NO scene, but when used when I agree about something being NOOOOO worthy. Likewise goes to the “nein nein nein” clip.
6:14 DUN DUN DUN
Dude wtf does that even have to do with my username? I was referring to the lastest episode (At the time of this comment) and how he mentioned it IN THE PAST before the episode was aired.
Adolf Hitler I was dying of laughter at that point
Guys guys guys, what if... THE ROUNDTABLE IS PINK DIAMOND :OOOOOOO
TheMightyPotato0 LOL
What we were expecting? What you were expecting. You made so many theories and made up stories for your viewers to the point when the story is about to end and it’s not how you thought it turned out you think the show is crappy.
That was my rant
he doesn't think the show is crappy he just doesn't like the idea of her being alive, and SU has many flaws, not everyone and everything is going to be up to your standards stop being so butthurt about different opinions.
Mark V. Brooks when he's being aggressive and insulting? Please stfu.
People. Pink being alive is one of oldest theory there is. It is kind of obvious if you think about it.. what is definitive ability of diamonds after all? Why existence of gem civilization itself depend on diamonds? It is because they are boordmothers! They do create other gems possessing ability to manipulate life. This show don't even try hide that.
Aren’t you overreacting? You know the show, they tend to trick us a lot. For all we know, there are some connection between Pink and Rose. Or better yet, since Gems are technically are alive even after shattering, maybe that is how he is connecting to Pink. Through her shattered gems
14sok hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha... A PLAIL PINK FRICKER
4:35 its so funny seeing this video after a single pale rose aired
Oh Yes, Pink Diamond is still alive. Very much alive.
Steven interacted with the cluster. He can communicate with shards. Maybe thats what happened in Jungle Moon. No need to panic... they didnt ruin anything. This entire video is pointless cause its based on practically nothing.
i disagree. if the crewniverse does decide to go to the "pink diamond is alive" narrative, i trust they'll handle it with the utmost care. they've done everything right so far, why would they fuck up now? and also, (though this is more of a hunch) i feel like white diamond is going to play a huge role in the event that the "pink diamond is alive" narrative actually becomes a reality. i dont know about yall but im really fucking pumped for the future of SU
yeah, it's not like they fucked up the cluster arc or anything
she is alive only for Steven to shatter her. if she suddenly became good and helped Rose, any other Diamond would kill her personaly. Garnet story makes little sense because she didn't wintness the story, her assumption is pretty much a lie.
Light Yagami thry didn't
I agree with you. The show isn't even pulling this possibility out of thin air. They have been tossing around hints and clues throughout the series that point in this direction.
Light Yagami that’s a big matter of personal preferences, the show has its reasons obviously and i really doubt the cluster won’t play a bigger part later on. it was contained, not destroyed. pretty sure rebecca etc. know the way they want to advance their story lmao
Now we know *ROSE IS PINK DIAMOND*
Guess what, she's not only alive, but she is freaking Rose, which means she is Steven. MMMMMMPPPPPPHHHHHHHMMMMM
steven and rose are separate beings :/
I don’t know why you’re surprised. You should have thought of this during Jungle Moon. No seriously, how would Steven tap into a memory of someone who is dead? “Because empathy” isn’t a good enough explanation. If there isn’t a mind to come in contact with, he shouldnt see them in his dreams.
Arella Jardin exactly, he didn't experience that memory for nothing.
Right? RIGHT??? Ok, at this point there is more evidence supporting RQ = PD then RQ shattered PD. The show is clearly giving us clues that story JUST doesn't add up. That the all-knowing Garnet DOESN'T know RQ sword can't shatter gems. Let's look over the evidence..
Steven's vast array of insane powers..
Defensive Shield/Bubble (symbol of protection)
Healing Cracked Gems/Humans
Floating
Telepathy
Mind-Swapping
Growing Organic Army of Plants
RAISING THE DEAD (who ironically have the same color scheme as PD)
Rose's Strange Past
Made a Rebellion when no other Gem could
Worked aside Humans and Gems to *free* them
Loved Organic life
New Found concept of Love and there being *more*
Insignia has various diamond shapes, on her sword, fusion,battle flag, shield
Mysterious shrouded past noone seems to know everything about, not even Pearl.
Pearl being unusually bonded to her - something we've only seen in show with Diamonds.
Pink Diamond's Strange Life
Revealed to be unusually small for a Diamond, gems don't grow. Effectively Defective/Off Color (just like Pearl)
Flower motifs on everything
Created RQ soldiers
Kept a Utopian Human Zoo
Child-like and unexperienced, gets first Earth Colony
Literally shatters a mirror image of herself
Oh yeah, has the same lips, shape eyes, shape nose and shaped hair as RQ and the same gem placement.
Also...Steven has various times been given Royal treatment.
Watermelon Crown in jest
Connie/Pearl acting like Knights and bowing to him as royalty
Owning a pet Lion
Birthday suit is a royal crown and cape
Lars kneeling to him
Otherwise growing into a leadership role.
Diamonds are top tier class in gem society thus = Royalty.
What about the cluster?
The Cluster might be a homonculus of stitched together parts, but it is alive. That’s kind of the whole point of the experiments, taking shattered fragments and smooshing them into a new, disjointed being.
Honestly? This show has had so many amazing moments that threw my expectations out the window and did something x10 better than i thought. At this point, I fully trust that rebecca knows what she's doing.
Rebecca's a dumb ass if she goes down this route and fucks it up, like many other things got fucked up with creators making retarded decisions.
I do as well, only sucks that we have to wait when Steven is around
If she has a plan that Pink Diamond should be alive, I am sure that it is the best route the show could go down, and she will do it in a way that makes the show better in a way we didn't expect. I might be wrong, but she has made so many decisions I would not have made and made them 10x better than I would have.
Well now it's canon, pink dimond is alive :/
well yes, but actually she's GONE
MWHAHAHA! Vox your nightmare proved right!
Soooo, here's a thought: do the Crystal Gems actually KNOW that Rose's sword can't shatter gems, and can only poof them? Bc this episode would imply that they DON'T. Either that, or that the weapons that Bismuth made for them WERE in fact capable of cracking/shattering a Gem - with Rose's sword as the sole exception.
It seems they are in fact very convinced about Rose shattering Pink, wich would suggest garnet and pearl weren't alongside Rose during the coup de grâce
Sancho Man Pearl might have been there.
Okay, so I don't really remember the Bismuth episode, but I don't think she made weapons for the other (surviving) Crystal Gems. They seem to only use weapons manifested from their gems, while Rose's sword is a physical piece of forged weaponry. It's possible that the truth of the sword/weapons designed by Bismuth died with the other Crystal Gems. And hearing that Rose shattered PD, they might just assume her sword the exception.
LePhantomessa
Do You mean here comes a thought????? *wink wink*
It makes sense that even if the sword was made to not shatter gems the actual properties of diamonds make it reasonable to think that the sword could shatter pink because diamonds may be hard but they’re very brittle
What If pink diamonds shards were scattered around the universe and Steven can access her memories when he's near a one.
:O
That’s actually a pretty cool theory
Actually this is hella flawed the diamonds definitely would have found one by now
Why would they have been scattered?
Ryu Tama not a clue lmao I just randomly thought of it
this aged well
Just watched the new episode. Comes back to this. Wow. We were right all along
While I wouldn't put it past the Crewniverse to come up with a bizarre reincarnation thing, two things are certain:
1. Pink Diamond disappeared and it LOOKED like she was shattered. I do think Rose was the one who shattered her, but I also think that Zircon had a point: only a diamond could shatter another diamond. Bismuth created the sword to poof gems, so I think the most likely scenario is that Rose originally intended to poof Pink Diamond, but accidentally shattered her because someone else weakened her beforehand. Furthermore, considering that Pink had confidence issues due to being smaller (the way she treats her subjects is likely a facade brought on due to her feeling inferior to the other diamonds) than the other diamonds, it's highly plausible that she was the one who did something to weaken herself and then she LET Rose shatter her.
and
2. Steven has the ability to access the memories of ANY of the diamonds. The colony he was on appeared to be one of Yellow Diamond's and he likely was accessing the memories of Yellow which resurfaced after the trial. Yellow Diamond is hiding the fact that she feels guilty for the way she treated Pink through her anger and I think this may serve as a catalyst for him to reach a truce with the diamonds, as well as solve the mystery of who really was behind the shattering. It's obvious that Yellow will eventually show up on Earth because once she finds out the Cluster has been deactivated, she will want to find another way to destroy the world and I think Steven revealing the truth to her will cause the Diamonds to leave the earth alone.
Based on this, I think that Rose took the fall for the incident and just decided to stay on Earth, protecting it while not telling any of the other Crystal Gems the truth. Greg said that there were even some things Rose didn't tell him, likely due to her guilt and this would explain why Pearl was unable to say anything and why Bismuth stayed in her bubble for so long. However, I also think that she felt guilt over what happened and that Pink will be brought back somehow. I seriously doubt Steven would say "maybe she's still alive" if her shards were not still around somewhere and perhaps finding the cure for corruption (and his new healing powers) will give him a way to bring her back.
P.S. Steven thinking Pink Diamond is still alive was suggested by him for two reasons:
1. Steven is still young and now that he knows there is more to the story of Pink's shattering, his child-like innocence wants to believe that he was accessing the memories of Pink Diamond. Steven likely was just accessing the memories of Yellow Diamond and given one more hint he needs to protect Earth from the Diamonds. Steven shows empathy towards them but he also doesn't want a war. Steven does not want a conflict because the Diamonds are just grieving the loss of their loved one and finding out that Pink is still alive would be the easiest solution to this.
and
2. Regardless of the truth regarding Pink's whereabouts, Steven wants to find a way to make peace with the Diamonds and figure out WHY they thought Rose shattered Pink. In real life, the only thing that can shatter a diamond is ANOTHER diamond, we haven't heard anything about White Diamond yet, and Pink has been shown to have an inferiority complex due to her small stature. Rose's sword can normally only destroy a gem's physical form, but since Bismuth was poofed before it was revealed that a cracked gem cannot regenerate, it's possible that something happened to Pink that weakened her enough for Rose to shatter her.
We were shown what happens when a gem is cracked with Amethyst and Amethyst has similar personality traits to Pink. I don't think the theory that "Amethyst is Pink's reincarnation" is true, but I do think that her shards are still out there. Perhaps something happened to Pink that caused her gem to become weaker and taking the hit from Rose's sword caused her to shatter. Furthermore, we don't know where her shards are and while I think the Diamonds kept most of the shards, perhaps Rose hid one of the shards out of guilt.
I love that they showed that paparacha can be helpful! She does serve a perpouse, and she might play a part in finding pink diamond if it's true she's alive. She sees what others don't in that moment.
4:24 I laughed so hard at this!!! You so did not want this to be a thing. Clenched teeth and all!
Bruh everyone knows Greg ate Pink diamond SMH 🙄
Ikr! Its so obvious!
natestubs1 i agree
Big oof big mood
Greg seems like hes down for that in a relationship
Call him Stanley Steemer cause he's a carpet cleaner
I think that a cool conclusion would be that pink diamond's shards were scattered across the galaxy in several different places by the diamonds, and there would be an arc where Lars takes Steven to go find said shards, seeing flashbacks like in jungle moon, leading up to seeing pink's shattering. Some locations could be
The Crystal Gems already have one, so the burning room
The bubble room or a secret room in the zoo
The jungle moon base (Placed by yellow in memory of how even though they fought, she still loved pink and also an Explanation as to how Stevonnie saw a vision there)
Pink diamond's palanquin
The treasure chest in Lion's mane
There could also be a few more locations, and though this is very unlikely, I really like this idea and I think that it could make for a cool story arc and plenty of fan speculation
Yeah it would be the key for Steven to find the truth
Another possible location for PD's shards would be the center of the earth in the Cluster.
And how about along the way Steven keeps getting more visions about Pink Diamond and her experiences???
I don’t think they are going in that direction. They probably just said to throw people off.
I hope
The Roundtable also, Sugar said this season was kinda a murder mystery. So we will probably find out the answer to the question by the end of the next season. Whenever that’s gonna air because “cough” CN And hiatus “cough”
5:59
Awestruck: Sugar. I’m begging you. Don’t do this.
Rebecca Sugar: *hold my beer*
“*five hours of NO later* ima watch a single pale rose now... GOD DAMNIT"
Man we keep getting all of these questions but no answers. *COMMON REBECCA GIVE US SOME ANSWERS YOU'RE KILLING ME*
Rebecca Sugar: Okay here are all your answers...
All SU Fans: Oh... um okay... uh guess we don't need to watch your show anymore... thanks, we will be looking forward to your next work...
Rebecca Sugar and Cartoon Network: F#CK
You put common, thinking it was a conjunction of come on, but its not. Common means like as a ruby is, a "common soldier", therefore you used the wrong context.
haukness I meant that we keep getting questions after questions it would be nice to have at least a clue but each time we get close to an answer we end up getting caught in another mystery. I know what you mean, I don't want all of the answers coming out at once either but I'm just saying it would be nice to at least get some sort of answer that's all.
haukness, people aren't looking for the whole series bible here. We just want SOME answers. When they say they promise them, they should at least answer one of them.
They keep saying, “It’s time for answers.” Where the f**k are they?
What if Pink Diamond faked her death? What if she is still alive on some distant planet with her own colony and base? We know there were gems that look like Pink's gem (bubbled in the temple). What if a gem like that with the same gem placement sacrificed herself for her diamond, giving her and some of her entourage to escape in one of her ships. We know gems can shapeshift. What if one of her sapphires predicted Rose Quartz's attack, told her diamond, who descided to fake her death with a gem who was willing to sacrifice herself for the safety of her diamond. Pink Diamond wanted respect from her fellow diamonds, so what better way than to fake her own death, escape to some distant planet, allow her colony to grow until she thinks it's big enough, then make a surprise return back to Homeworld, showing the other diamonds how much she had grown and matured on those many years alone without a diamond figure to help her when she really needed them. This theory just popped into my head one day for some reason, but it is reasonable in some way.
If someone has a theory about something, treat it like how you would want others to treat your theory and try to be respectful of it. ~Random person.
Not trying to be mean, but please, at least don't be rude about disagreeing with theories you don't like. I'm talking about everyone who has ever done it.
Velocirapter
I think another colony would have been easily found by the other Diamonds by now.
But this theory actually makes more sense than the other pink Diamond may still be alive theories.
One thing though. How do you explain the Diamond dream on the jungle moon?
"What if she's still out there?" NO SHE'S IN THERE WITH YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE PINK F**KING DIAMOND.
Awestruck Vox: Pink Diamond is still alive
Crewniverse: well yes but actually no
I'd actually won't mind the thought of PD being alive
For me, it depends on how the story goes, if that's the case.
remmy recorderz if she was alive then they need to make it good
Same
Me neither! It would be amazing to see this planet destroying tyrant get a huge redemption. After all, she did have the mind like a child.
same
Garnet: She’s gone. Your mother made sure of it
The RoundTable: PINK DIAMOND IS ALIVE!?
😂
Rian McAuliffe gone doesn't exactly mean dead 💁
i'd prefer her being dead, but i mean the wording is slightly vague in that aspect
SuperPurplePancakes yeah you’re right, I’d also hope she’d be dead (not to be morbid) 😂
But I really hope she is shattered she is such a bitch
Flurry2509 Dhd ok whoa 🤭😂
FLURRY SHE IS NOT A BITCH
she was neglected by yellow
there is a difference
Pink Diamond being "out there" could have dire ramifications for Homeworld. If her apparent shattering was staged and Rose Quartz was just a convenient culprit, the truth would possibly cause the diamond order to break, resulting in a civil war on Homeworld. It wouldn't even matter if she came back. The ensuing internal conflict would shift the attention away from earth and the crystal gems in a heartbeat, while allowing for more complex character development for all involved parties.
me: *looks* *up* *when* *a* *single* *pale* *rose* *was* *released*
My new favorite episodes of Steven Universe is “ pool hopping”, “your mother and mine” and “Mr. Greg”
I loved the way garnet reacted to the off Color Gems, it’s unfortunate that the Off Colors didn’t know what a complement was.
Highly doubtful that she is still alive. However one thing to note is that if your theory on pink diamonds shards being hidden away is correct then what about this? What if Steven had that dream because he was near one of her shards hidden in the jungle moon base (A moment where she had a big emotional episode with yellow) they might have hid the shards in locations like that and since we already have evidence that shards can feel and are still technically alive Steven/stevonnie only got a small fragment of the past through that shard (And how Convenient was it that they where attacked and rescued before stevonnie could sleep one more night there?Perhaps to keep them and thus us from learning the truth?)
Lord of Death Gaming ooh that's an interesting theory!
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well the theorie itself can moastly be half invalidated but her shard could have been hidden on earth and maybe steven had one on him at the time (stevonni) because i doubt the crystal gem had any space ship to use for that and i see no reason for the diamons to do it either.
Well, why would a shard be there? Some gem funeral ritual to put a shard in every land-mark moment of their past we don't know about? Unlikely.
From the first time a mention of Pink Diamond appeared, I thought that Steven's mother could be her; But when I saw the Bismuth gem for the first time, I thought that it was not a gem but an artifact with which a gem could be degraded or altered and that was what Steven's mother used to stop being a Pink Diamond. It is that they gave too many powers to Steven's mother, and too much raw power (if at least it had been made that she had all those powers but as Sapphire she did not have much capacity for combat... but the enormous strength that he also had Steven's mother). I also think that it would have been more significant if Steven's mother was not Pink Diamond, it would even have seemed better if Pink Diamond had not been destroyed but locked up... or destroyed and locked away (leaving the possibility for Steven to repair the gem and revive Pink Diamond repairing her mother's "crime").
Steven: “what if she’s still out there?”
Bruh she is still out there, she’s half of you
multiple witnessess confirms Pink Diamond's shattering. Her entire court was present, and saw Rose approach peacefully (meaning Garnet's retelling of that moment is innacurate).
But Pink's energy could still be out there. There might be something of her left.
because it would be the first time people have faked their deaths in a public manner... they saw something that was impossible to happen roses sward can't shatter gems this is true and canon so end of story. what that means is they saw had to be some form of a lie someone put on
Yes, but a horde of witnesses and the other Diamonds themselves confirmed that the shattering did take place. And Blue herself posed the question of: HOW? How did it happen?
Pink DID shatter. But Rose's Sword didn't do it. We have to look for another explanation for why it happened.
again you're assuming what they saw wasn't a well planed out and executed magic trick/illusion. remember no one has shards of PD gems they just saw her get shattered nothing else. the most likely out come is PD was in on an act to make it look like she was shattered
Not once was it said she aproached peacefully.
@BlackfootFerret
Also most important factor.. most witness are dead! Why they did use eyeball instead some high rank gem as witness? Because she is one of few known witness. Also she didn't really see what happen as she walk after incident recognizing Ross because she hold the sword. Also Garnet testimony isn't reliable because she wasn't even Cristal Gem back then, as she was member of Blue Diamond court or just escape from it at that time. Only Pearl really know anything about the case.
To be honest, it may be a disappointing idea to you, but for me it would actually be the most interesting plot twist to the show.
OK, I'm gonna say it: I like the idea if Pink Diamond still being alive! It gets me very interested and hyped on how everyone in the show is going to deal with it and it opens a ton of brand new possible routes that the show could take.
They shouldn't have built up to it this much. All of this would be pointless just for the sake of a plot twist. It would be better if they just said something happened to her and left it at that.
Anders Kilowatt So you're having another redemption arc in mind? I absolutely love that idea, but I hope that the barn syndrome won't happen again...
In case you don't know, barn syndrome is what Lapis and Peridot went through, it means that they are just left in the barn without having to do with the story, in other words, they were just put away and became kinda ignored during a chunk of the show, passive in any major situation, know what I mean?
I hope I explained it right, and someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
Interesting?
That's cliche
"Oh My god, ________ was alive this whole time! Wow, what a Twist"
green decepticon Hmmm... I'm gonna admit, you could actually have a good point there. But still, why would Steven have brought it up if it's not gonna get explored? You know how the show works. Then again, it's most likely gonna be explored, but that of course doesn't mean that she's actually gonna be alive.
Bobquinho Yeah yeah, very good point. What are your thoughts on it? What do you think would be the most logical thing for the show?
5:51 The crew have made it clear they do not take plot ideas from the fandom. They already have a lay out.
Pink diamond is out there, it’s u Steven, ur pink diamond, feels so good to say that, omg he’s pink diamond. So many mixed emotions
Wait wait, would pink diamond being alive really be such a bad thing? I know, you have very good reasons; still, let's think about it: the gems have already accepted the fact that Rose commited murder, Steven has already accepted the fact her mom wasn't perfect, we all saw a face of Rose and see her as a revolutionary that is ready to do anything for her freedom and her friends... except, that maybe she is not.
Just think about it, if Rose actually did not kill Pink, then where does this put the revelion at? If the diamonds find out Pink was alive and prisioner in a bubble/lion/chest/whatever how would they react? If the gems find out, what would they feel? I mean, Rose has lied to them before, but this is a serius issue, it was Pink diamond murder that cause the end of the revelion and most of their companions! Not to mention that now Bismuth would be more right about blaming Rose for the lost revelion (lets be honest, 3 survivors, a wourld full of dangerous corrupt gems and all of the enemy leaders alive is not a win); and what about Steven? Sure, he would be happy to find that his mom was not a murderer, but now what? The moment the diamonds find out about Pink, more than likely, the war will start again, and Steven (a 14 year old half human) will, once again, deal with what i think is the worst mistake her mother could make, just because she couldn't make herself to murder a gem or end a war thet obviously got out of her hands.
Sure, it would be a step back for some of the characters but man it would be reeeeally interesting for Steven's and Rose's characters (also, I've having a really bad feeling about Rose for a long time now, I don't trust her, so, it would be a personal point for me).
KifanL you know that Steven is a he, right?
Kata OnCrack yeah xD when I said "she" I was refering to Rose.
I think this a very good out put on people saying on it would ruin the let up and story line and I don’t think so... I agree to her core she is highly moral and she couldn’t shatter pink diamond but probably bubble her and lied about it... and maybe what some people think they saw was not a true shattering but a lost of form but from a distance it looks like a shatter... and from that lie it did end the war and it would interesting because then what if the word got out that pink is alive? Huh? And another war broke out? Steven would now have to be the one who has to be morally challenged... to shatter? Or not to shatter? And the lesson of how far can his morals take him? Are they enough? To end a war ? Or would he have to do the unspeakable like so many in history to end such a great suffering... would face a Sophie choice?? There a lot of possibilities on how that can play out! So how isn’t that interesting as well? I don’t see it ruining it when their is so many road you can take with this theory
I love how everyone has their own opinions and theory's when nobody has even watched it to the end. I know because it just ended this last year! For the time being.
@@avatar5023 I know, that’s why my response was from 4 years ago; and that’s why people had theories, because it wasn’t over yet xD
A shattered gem isn't actually dead, the cluster shards are alive, what if the shards of pink diamond are the ones creating the vision
Radical Dud probably
That's actually a good theory.
I have a theory that Rose's moss is Pink Diamond's shards. I mean, Rose kept tending to it/helping it flower! It would be under Rose's watch and since Rose interacted with it so often maybe Steven could talk to it? Plus, no one would think to check it
Little did he know..
Yep pink is alive.
I do have a theory... it’s a little far fetched but please hear me out
During the The Trial the question that stuck with me was, where was her Pearl?
There was also the theory that our Pearl shape shifted into Rose Quartz to get close to Pink Diamond and shatter her... well what if we got that all backwards?
What it Pink Diamond’s Pearl shape shifted into Pink Diamond and took the blow meant for her?
It’s far fetched I know but think of how messed up that would be, that Rose Quartz shattered an innocent gem?
MegaPurrV Hey, that's pretty good!
That seems kinda cool, but how did Pink Diamond get out of there with nobody seeing her, and why didn't she retreat back to the other Diamonds?
MegaPurrV that actually makes sense when you think about it. But if that were the case then the question still remains, what happened to the real Pink Diamond?
RidleyKraid187 it’s a far fetched theory, but maybe during that Flash back on the Moon Pink Diamond wanted to prove that she was better than the other diamonds and maybe had to drop off the map and the rebellion was a good cover? I don’t know, it was just an idea :P
Purple Diamond maybe she went into hiding has been plotting some sort of master plan or something :3 I have no idea
Yeah, I agree with you.
All those years of build-up, only to just step back like "Nope, Pink Diamond's been alive this WHOOOLE time."
That would be really disappointing. And also sad cause the rest of the gems that were on Earth were corrupted for nothing.
Squalington Constantine It wouldn’t be, it would make the story interesting that we could know who told the story of Rose shattering PD.
that doesn’t mean they were corrupted “for nothing”. the goal wasn’t to kill pink diamond just for fun but to stop the colony. and it was stopped either way sooo
The only thing that would be TRULY disappointing is if this story really WAS the full truth! That would mean that the crew has just been jerking us around and filling time with meaningless red herrings! This entire season would now just be a great big, Teen Titans GO! style; middle finger to the whole fandom!
If you feel this way about this, then you should feel the same about Rose not shattering pink with a sword, since they've been saying that forever as well.
I think they wouldn't be so obvious , there is another part of the plot missing .Like how are diamonds made ?
Rose couldn’t have shattered Pink Diamond because Rose is Pink Diamond 🙀plot twist
its a shame that you feel disappointment when things are concluded with peace instead of violence
You are over reacting.
VERY much so.
*PEARL YOU’RE OVERREACTING*
As he always does can't remember 1 time he was right about anything
That s because it's a rant you fucking walnut
I highly HIGHLY doubt that this is what's going to happen. After all, Steven and Connie have made random guesses about gems before (in Gem Hunt and Are you My Dad?) that have been WAY off the mark. More likely, Steven was speculating.
Thanks for the heart, vox! :D
The memorie is probably coming from pinks shards
Exactly. Connie once suggested there was another Gem-human hybrid in existence but nothing came out of that.
Dread Baron Nothing YET!!!
Perhaps he is feeling the raw emotion of the temple that we first saw Pink on, I mean, the building is made much like gems ( from what I can tell since they " regenerate" they are technicly alive) AND we have seen gems that are attatched to buildings that can actually feel rage and sadness ( such as the gem that was in the house that hated Lars) so it isnt far off that the building could be looking for closure with steven. Like it is talking it out with him
Love how there is comment's correcting someone on a theory that's year's old now and you know what I'm here for it 🤣
Rose is pink diamond.
Take a shot every time vox says no
*WASTED*
Charlotte Harmer no😑
I hospital I need to go to the think *passes out*
I honestly wouldn’t mind her still being alive, but I think the possibility was shown just so it’s in our mind and the real resolution is more surprising
Lol @ today’s episode
Pink diamond is rose and now Steven is pink diamond
I've definitely thought she was alive since the beginning
Steven is having his own dreams ;-;
I guess I'm the only one who was thinking and hoping she wasn't shattered at all? We already know Rose didn't shatter pink diamond that possibility has been ruled out since the trial, and blue suffered for thousands of years regardless so what does it really change? They left the story of rose and pink diamond vague and full of holes for reason, let them do their little twists it's makes complete sense and has been set up properly.
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Agreed
I actually love the idea of pink being still alive! Anyone else
same!
Nah
Tao Is king ok☹️
Me too.
I mean it would be cool but in all honesty i want all the diamonds bubbled and homeworld freed :v
Watching these episodes after the huge Steven bomb is so trippy. Oh ho ho ho ALL THE THINGS YOU DON'T KNOW!
Rose quartz is pink diamond! That's why Steven had dreams about diamonds! About pink diamond. In her eyes!
You should've used Daniel Bryan's clips saying "NO!"
Also Vox, let's agree to disagree. I think Pink Diamond still being alive would be a good thing.
Darkstar Archangel no
As much as it could be a possibility of her being alive, it could equally be a just a thought that Steven had since Garnet told him that she really was gone. Not saying Garnet knows everything, but I feel that line was just as important. I think there's still a chance of it going either way.
Whoopsie wooooo!!! PINK IS ROSE QUARTZ LMAO LOOKS LIKE YOU GOTTA SUFFER.
Pink diamond= rose quartz the dame person
NONONONONONONONONO…
me: yes
I missed how much more respectful and calm your videos used to be, this feels so rude and insulting, even if you ask for our thoughts at the end.
Eat shit, if you want this to be the case or still think Rose is Pink then you deserve to have your intelligence mocked.
Big T. Larrity its a show bud calm the heck down
Big T. Larrity that’s not even what the comment was about omg
Big T. Larrity I don't think Rose is Pink Diamond but you shouldn't mock others for having their own opinions. I don't like the way Awstruck talks down, almost degrades people who have other theories he thinks are wrong.
Big T. Larrity idiot what do u think now huh?rose is indeed pink ...idiot get a life
2019? Anyone? No? Ok...
when he reads his "No" speech. He's speaking in Unitato it's a trollpasta. noice,..
I don't understand what would be so bad about that...its more interesting if she is alive..i wanna see more of her character because I don't believe she's as much of a brat as everyone thinks..and it'd be awesome if rose quartz could be with her son. I don't think they're the same person, but i think either way this show is gonna end with a happy ending..being on cartoon network and all... I'd love to see pink diamond resurrected and end up loving her planet.
see? its comments like these that just make me want pink diamond alive again
Sydnie Spangler I dont think its a good idea
She’ll probably be redeemed. But to think she is alive being who she probably wants to be instead of an intergalactic tyrant
I think she'll be back, but with a change of heart..realizing she can be different from her leaders and break the mold. I think that's what this show has been about all along.
And her remaining army that was against her will join her, this is just my theory.