The Rise & Fall of Valve
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- čas přidán 30. 06. 2024
- Valve used to be the 'Good Guy' of game developers. From their outstanding hits in Half-Life, Team Fortress 2, Portal, Left 4 Dead and so on, they have dominated the PC market and revolutionized gaming. But somewhere along the way they had a fall from grace. They stopped selling games and started selling hats. Gambling, lawsuits, illegal activities, after 2011 Valve was getting involved in all kinds of shady stuff.
And it's time I filled you in on the Rise and Fall of Valve.
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___TIME STAMPS___
Introduction - 0:00
Rise of Valve - 2:06
Workplace Environment - 7:30
Game Releases, Delays, Failed Projects - 14:58
Steam Controversies, Anti-Consumer - 21:42
Exploiting Your Audience - 26:43
Gambling, Loot Boxes and Skin-Betting - 29:48
Selling Mods & Quality Control - 32:33
Artifact Failure - 34:31
Conclusion - 37:21
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Valve is a company of two extremes. They are both the 'Good Guys' and the 'Greedy Corpos.'
I both respect and admire Valve in the past, but I find their current business practices despicable.
Despite all the Anti-Consumer things Valve has done, Half Life: Alyx is a great sign, because Valve actively made a game they knew wouldn't make shit loads of money. It was the first game made with passion as the focus instead of making shit loads of money. So for that, I think Valve is on the right track.
____TIME STAMPS____
Introduction - 0:00
Rise of Valve - 2:06
Workplace Environment - 7:30
Game Releases, Delays, Failed Projects - 14:58
Steam Controversies, Anti-Consumer - 21:42
Exploiting Your Audience - 26:43
Gambling, Loot Boxes and Skin-Betting - 29:48
Selling Mods & Quality Control - 32:33
Artifact Failure - 34:31
Conclusion - 37:21
Lying about fallout 76 almost makes you wish that the actman would do a "why is the last of us 1 a masterpiece?!"
@@TheActMan "Why is kotor 2 a masterpiece? " video isn't released yet...
Influence lost: Kreia
@@TheActMan You should edited your comment :)
Act Man son of God. I have been waiting in St . Denise at the train station. Please the time has come , I ask that you tell Arthur Morgans story . It was his dying wish . Please Review Red Dead Redemption 2
"Blizzard, Valve, and Bioware could never do anything to lose my respect"
-Me, in 2010. To be young and naive...
The good days, first time playing half life 2 it just seemed so revolutionary.
CDPR is for the new generation, what Valve was for people above their 30's.
Amazing how the great falls in similiar ways.
Hey kids, have you heard about this company in Poland named CD Project Red?
The same with Grinding Gear Games
That's why you don't put your trust in companies, Follow the storytellers and actual devs.
"It could be a Chinese sweatshop or Disneyland for all I know"
You just said the same thing twice.
Hahahaha
Hehe what’s the difference -Patrick
@@TheActMan valve is not a completely evil company, at least compared to epic games lmao
@@sahymakhtar7445 and epic is basically Jesus compared to EA
@@sahymakhtar7445 Epic does not set a high bar to surpass. If that's the standard things are being held to, then God help us all.
I will forever love valve for TF2, that's what started PC Gaming for me.
As long as Steam works and gives me an all-in-one storefront and archive for my PC games, all the stuff involving the games they actually make, I couldn't care less about.
Although when I say "works", I use that term kinda loosely. I've gone onto the Steam store actively looking to buy a game and come up empty because their storefront is such a massive clusterfuck. And their algorithms, which have on occasionally found for me absolute hidden gems, still haven't learned in 13 years that 'recommended for you because it's popular' has never, not once, resulted in a sale. It's just clogged up my shopping experience like an annoying salesman in a store.
Same for me but I gotta side eye valve for being a missing grandfather of gaming unless they're dead.
Same
First thing I ever registered on Steam, I couldn't even tell you how many I have now
You should love the people who created Team Fortress 2, not the greedy company that is destroying it
Honestly, the philosophy of "letting people do what they want" is cool, until you actually have to deliver something. Some degree of direction and order is always needed.
i think its great to small groups but when you got a monopoly corporation like valve it extremely hinders progress
It's kinda like communism - sounds good until you realize humans are involved.
order is necessary for anything to continue existing.
Agreed, but somehow the video still projects them as a bottom-line focused company. Doesn’t make sense.
And that NDA is such regular practice - not indicative of anything nefarious
@@julianmangan9752It makes sense
I bet that if Gabe made a post on social media saying 3, the world would go crazy
Oh man that would've blown everyone mind.
RICOCHET -TWOOOO- THREEEEEEEEEE
3 new hats for team fortress 2
@@charly6066 that would be nice.
turns out to be left 4 dead 3 instead
Sending head crabs now
ROANOKE! buddy how you holding up?
just watched this mfs days gone virus video
Hey Roanoke!
Hey it's the starting with the feet guy
You, i know you.
I liked the bit about VALVE absolutely shaking the foundation of everything they get their hands on, Half Life Alyx made VR not a boring BeatSaber only machine
Funny you mention that, when BeatSaber still gets daily uploads on social media, while everyone has forgotten about Half Life: VR tech demo.
@@VitZ9 beatsaber doesn’t have an ending, half life alyx does
@@test_account939 It's still been largely forgotten. There are games with endings that are still being uploaded.
I am so happy I was able to be a part of the TF2 glory days. It saddens me that experiences like that aren't really possible anymore, just to think of the friendships that came of that.
I recently joined the game, no regrets.
What are you talking about? TF2 is very much alive and kicking
@@EthanBalkfield You right but the point is the health of the game, even if the game is good you can't say how disaster the casual it's is..
@@fenneck9676 huh? What are you even what?
And they ruined TF 2 too.
As far back as the Spy VS sniper update when careful considerations and design went out the window for "sidegrades" (Some of which were strictly better than what they replaced), the death of the art style they propped up as a guiding post, game balance, etc.
Fucking shame.
when gordon freeman has to make a video about being disappointed in valve...
Let the silent man speak...
He certainly is speaking a lot more than usually. He must be pretty pissed off.
Lmao
Gabe's Will: "Bury me with the Half Life code...so Half Life 2, Episode 3 can never be made..." lol.
@@williamyoung9401 he's going to have the coffin lead-lined and sealed with an indestructible salve so it can't open even with vault cracking gear. He's going the J. Edgar Hoover route
I love how Act Man somehow still manages to include a Halo reference in every single one of his videos, even if the subject doesn’t include Halo at all
Lol
yes.
Im here before tousend likes
Here's your silver medal for being the second comment 🎉
It's a curse I have to fullfill, actually
This video aged like fine wine because right now Valve does not care about the TF2 bot situation.
Valve really did create modern gaming...
Lmao.
true
Not even close
@@MortCodesWeb tell me you're a casual gamer without telling me
@Don't Care sure but steam is one of first to have game collection and cloud storage. Most importantly servers, oh my God severs are AMAZING. ps 1 servers are gone, ps2 and almost all ps3 older games are gone, same goes for wii, wii u, Xbox classic, and some of xbox 360 games, all dead because no severs are online to let you play it.
All gone, only on pc can you even touch or play games online, and I can only do it through steam servers.
The tf2 community has been screaming this for almost 4 years - thx for joining in
we will never give into those bots
@@tacticaltwinkies3847 actually, the bots are a blessing in disguise. Now that no one wants to play casual mode anymore because it's infested with bots, we can all return to community based servers, y'know how tf2 used to be like.
@@oldmanjinkinsskyrim737 and wait 20000000 years to find one with players in it, yeah no thanks.
Since 2017 they don't do anything
@@venturo3066 You forgot about the SNAKE UPDATE!
Important correction: Counterstrike wasn't made by Valve. It was a mod for Half-Life that Valve bought from the creators. It's also funny that Blizzard missed the opportunity to do the same with Dota, and Valve bought that too. So, an eye for good shit is also a part of Valve's arsenal.
Most of Valve games are from a mod
Dota 2 = warcraft frozen throne mod
Tf2 = Quake mod
CS = Half Life mod
I'm waiting for Dota world RPG they could do it, there are a lot of Dota 2 mod with good RPG elements and with the fall of DIABLO and other ARPG they could make more billions if they do that.
@@invoker6219 That's probably why they always encourage community support. I imagine Gabe knew he could use the consumer as an idea machine and capitalize on it while looking like the hero. He could pay them well enough, make billions, and nobody would be the wiser that they used the community to cut expenses and development.
It's the perfect sociopathic plan for dominating the gaming community.
@@invoker6219 yeah but their games are rlly fkin good too HL2 and Portal
@@Isaiah-ft5nx It would be but they don't even do that anymore, they are that lazy.
I still play TF2 to this day because it's a fun game. It's just a shame how Valve's reputation has fallen
All I know is Left4dead 1 and 2 still play like new games for me. All these years later and they still amaze me with how great they are. So much fun too!
Constantly play each campaign all over again & enjoy it so much. Then replay them again.
@@miruharabaeim not sure any game has come close to how good the guns&movement was for the amount of zombies to could kill with 1clip.
Team Fortress - A Quake mod
DOTA - A WC3 mod
Counter-Strike - A mod for Half Life
Portal - Originally made by some students
Well, at least they offered some sort of patronage to some projects that were worthy of it.
@@Adrian-vy5vn True. I just thought that proved that maybe Valve hasn't made that many games after all. At least not theirs originally.
@@sdHansy L4D was done by the Turtle Rock team as well
Counter strike was a quake mod
@@drakk5 it was lit a hl mod, have you not played the old betas?
Valve whenever they see any trace of tf2 being alive:”I don’t know what this is and I don’t like it”
Pain.
💯
The fact they/one of the devs actually BUFFED the already strong Phlog to be unbelievably OP for a month....... God I felt like they actually didn't want us to play the game/give the game love.
well valve prepare an update for tf2
hell yeah and is gonna stay alive by the community
Valve will always have a place in my heart because of all the revolutionary things they've done. And like a wise man just said "If Wolfenstein 3D and Doom was the shooter genre understanding how to use fire, than Half-Life was the genre learning how to harnessing electricity."
Love the game devs, not the company
harness*
After playing Alyx I want more of that... That game raised the bar so damn high for VR that all the other VR games look incompetent by comparison.
Boneworks still was incredible and honestly far better in terms of player freedom
@@Tallzom it's pretty good. Personally I found it a little too janky. I feel like Alyx sort of cut out anything that is inherently janky in VR. like 2 handed weapons and melee weapons. So in that way I feel like Alyx came through a lot more immersive and polished.
@@justintime5021 well you can’t just say they cut out two handed weapons and forget about the dynamic grabbing system where you can hold pretty much anything with two hands at once..
@@Duckbusinessman I didn't forget.... Crates are not weapons. You can't kill an enemy with a crate. Sure you can hold onto anything with two hands..... Anything except any weapon.
@@justintime5021 ok? So what makes a two handed weapon more janky than holding anything else with two hands?
This was the only appropriate video to make after the L4D2 video
I haven’t played a valve game but I’m surprised to hear they’ve fallen
@@KTTstudios Well, they have not really, simply because they're behind steam, so basically they own the PC video game market, it's more to the eyes of theActMan, but nowhere near what Blizzard has become
@@lasterman94100 . So being a revolutionary in gaming and being the heavyweight champion in the PC market excuses anti consumer business practices ? As a whole they are as bad as Nintendo and EA. All three changed the market up (for good and for bad) and they don't get a free pass. Bethesda fucked up big with Fallout 76 and no one gave them a slap on the wrist and said "Well at least they redefined the Rpg genre, so it is ok"
@@Deadsea_1993 At what point did I support them in my comment, chill the fck out dude, don't try to agress me based on things I didn't even touch upon, all I said was that they didn't "fell" in the most common use of the term, because they and will certainly continue to own most of the PC games economy, which means that even if most people sees their evolution as really bad for the consumers, they still do finacially very well, unlike activision Blizzard or Bethesda which are on the losing side more than ever
Yes
The sentence is, in a nutshell : "Either you die a hero or you live long enough to become a villian".
taking an arrow to the knee is almost as painful as waiting for actman's why skyrim is so awesome
@@whiterunguard6415 Skyrim has to be awesome for him to make a video on it... Can't compare Skyrim to something like Fallout New Vegas
With Grinding Gear Games it will be: "Either you die a blind pioneer or live long enough to become a shitty version of EA"
@@whiterunguard6415 please don’t stop spamming this under act mans videos! We NEED a Skyrim video lol. Subbed to u for fighting the good fight
@@andrewscocozza4340 thanks dude, spread the good word of skyrim.
You either die a hero(valve) or live long enough to see yourself become a villain(Bethesda)
Valve died in 2011
Sad thing about Bethesda. Its founder partnered with a corrupt lawyer, who joined him in making Zenimax. It didn't take long for that partner to steal the company out from under him, which is how we got to where we are today.
(Watching this on my steam deck)- “i see what your saying bro…”
As did Rockstar games, they died in 2013/14.
@@Abel-Alvarez why 2014? i thought it was shortly after RDR2’s release
that 2nd one also describes EA perfectly well too
When they released the Orange box.. they were kings
Now..
Clicked faster than Gabe running away from HL3 questions
Faster than Valve trying to sell you hats
Clever
@@TheActMan LOL i love your channel my dude, keep it up!
@@TheActMan *wandering the safe shallow in your seamoth*
*Makes you wish act man would do a WHY IS SUBNAUTICA GOOD JUST REALLY BUGGY*
This needs to go on r/murdered by words
I feel like Valve is the case study of a company that captured lightning in the bottle and now refuse to try new thing because they are too afraid to ruin that image
Ironically causing the image to be ruined.
Usually when a company...
1) Stops releasing games that the fans ask for, in fact beg for...
2) Breaks consumer protection laws
3) When caught, spends millions in legal fees and court costs to avoid giving refunds...the very reason they're in court to begin with
4) Inevitably loses only to continue breaking consumer protection laws and ends up in court again...and loses again
5) Then finally releases a game, except it's a disgraceful pile of shit pay to win game that nobody wants (Artifact)
Amazing reputation is long gone. Just the lawsuits alone and Valve's choices are enough. It would have been much cheaper to simply pay the fines and give people refunds. A company once known for making amazing games is now known for being run by nothing but fat greedy assholes.
It's not that they refuse to try new things in fact quite the opposite they always want to revolutionize for example with half life hl1 revolutionized story telling in fps, hl2 physics and alyx vr. Behind the scenes they are constantly making prototypes but get bored or don't like how it's going and scrap it
Valve is like the ice cream machine at McDonalds that is always out of order. There is a documentary on it but in a nut shell, McDonalds makes more money with a broken machine in constant repair that it would if it was up an running. Money is made by exclusive repair people and taking a cut. They point out that other fast food places have their own ice cream machines from the same company, but they are not breaking down.
Uhh... Valve have tried making a sequel and got a huge backlash from the game community. Now after the sequel success valve take the community word and never to make a sequel. Thats what i remember back in 2008.
L4d 1 and 2 is what got me really into gaming as an adult (i was 18). I use to play daily. I miss those days on Xbox 360 and meeting new people. None of my friends now really game and it's usually a shitshow trying to play online on public servers
You got it on Steam? My friends and I are looking for another teammate.
@I Slay Goblins only on Xbox :( thank you for offering 🖤
@@chymeow9207 I had the same experience like you! Left 4 Dead was also my introduction to Valve and their games but I did play the hell out of them on my Xbox 360 with my sister a lot :D
Yeah I miss playing l4d in the 360 party chat
Good old days. Nothing beats those old days of games bc the passion was there now days games aren’t passionate it’s cash grabs 😊l
Valve has made some of the greatest games of all time, Half Life, Portal, Team Fortress, it’s a shame they stopped making games, with new gen consoles, one can only imagine the incredible and unique games Valve could have made, Half Life Alyx was a step in the right direction, really hope it leads to a Half Life 3 someday
Half life 3 has to come out sometime in the next 3-4 years,that cliffhanger at the end of alyx is so fucking good and it perfectly sets the game up.
@@parizer9394 everyone knows valve cant get to 3 they never made portal 3 half life 3 nothing is 3
@@hjrgf k
Alyx was a VR test for Valve, but VR isnt on a level Valve want it to be to make HL3. Its quite obvious, when/if Valve is making HL3, they will do it to revolutionize gaming in VR. They dont need the money, they can wait. If its made, my guess would be, they will start around 2025.
@@Bhavyo the fuck do you mean it was a test?
"rose from nothing and fell to greed"
Sums up the whole video game world at this rate.
True
Seriously. And it’s a damn shame
It's the same problem with every industry now these days: The wrong people took over and theres nothing we can do about it.
I mean, as somethings grow, there are many other things that grow along with it.
In this case, Economies across major Countries increase and slightly drop by the minutes, either rushing or flowing to get that extra push on what drops.
The World is about money, now, more so than ever.
@@edwardrichtofen1252 people have finally discovered that money really does make the world survive.
When I look at how much time went into Steam, I don't know if I can blame 'em for focusing on that platform :O
I am the cool kid from Germany making videos for the USA and the rest of the world. I will make your day so don't say nay to me today, dear ca.
you can't. If that platform didn't exist, you wouldn't have multiplayer for thousands of games, I still remember using shady garbage apps to create LAN with friends to play games.
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@@KpK1Cioby i own solitary games that wont let me play offline with out a key :( thank you steam. for not letting me play games i own when my internet is down
@@atticusherodes6648 you can literally play all steam games offline, the only games you can't is if the game itself needs online.
3:16 that was the best transition in the history of transitions my dude hahahaha I love your vids!💙💯👌🏼
6:63 reminds me that for the official TF2 comics, Valve reached out to a fan artist because they enjoyed their rendition/fanart of The Administrator. From what I remember they bought the design and the artist made more art for them
Maybe the real reason Valve doesnt release games anymore is because Gabe got sick of reading 10,000 emails each time?
Oh crap you might be on too something...
Who does he think he is, the Yandere dev?
Or the jokes. It is written in the tablets "For every Gaben joke, he delays Half Life 3 a day." We must pray for forgiveness, and maybe he shall return to us 🙏
On some Yandev type shit.
Guess we found Gabe's alt
Act man: Companies strive to be respected, trusted and admired.
EA has left the chat.
Remember when EA was good?
Old sims
Need for speed
Battlefront
Etc
@@gentletal5101 We live in a society where honor is a distant memory.
And Activision.
@@troypowers750 Sadly. I have fond memories of COD3 and 2. And I know EA and Activision are not the only ones guilty of this.
@@gentletal5101 RIP Medal of Honor ;_;
According to my mathematical theory, currently as of 2022 “valve time” is approximately 32 times of the original factor
This is represented by the original 6 month time for HL 2 p3 to 16 years
Which is 6 months x 32 which gives us 16 years
“Valve time” is an ever changing value, next year I’ll try and update valve time to its accurate value
Yours faithfully
Honor_
So, based on your hypothesis, I propose that the first derivative of valve time is not a constant, but rather is increasing as time progresses. Something like a hyperbolic tangent. Tanh(x).
@@garisonhayne668 I would propose that Valve and time are relative to another but should be viewed as one (Valvetime) and when a game is epic enough it can actually warp and bend "Valvetime" thus slowing it down. Then as a game is released the marketplace economy explodes sending skins and other useless junk across the market place creating a black hole that even the cents between the couchpillows cant escape the microtransactions devouring your savings. V=HF³
I like your funny words, magic man.
amazing
They are just lazy.
17:27 this is gold.
“The Valve promises updates for you.
Might be a lie, an illusion...
But it’s there. Just around the corner.
and it keeps you going.”
-Pootispunk 77 (Ceno0)
Team Fortress 2 was one of the best games in the world to me. Music, idea, execution, movement. I just love that game so much.
Don't forget about their great characters lore and personality.
The characters are also likeable and the artstyle too.
@Well I just had bad grammer sorry it still one of my favorite games
Isnt tf2 only multiplayer tho? A shitty one at that? Or does it have a singleplayer that i missed out on?
It was fun, but for anyone who spent a lot of time playing the first team fortress there wasn't a whole lot of difference to it. It just felt like a re-imagining of the same game. The added bells, whistles, and gimmicks only go so far. I also hate microtransactions with a vengeance, so perhaps that was part of it too.
I'll be honest, I love the 'wild west' nature of steam right now, even with the questionable releases like 'rape day'.
I think it's important that we have places where anyone can publish art, even bad or offensive art uncensored. I might not like all of it or even most of it but I don't want any individual or corporation gatekeeping it. Theres a few experiences out there that most people would find bad but appeal to me and other niche communities that would never get greenlit otherwise.
thanks for confirming to everyone here that you play rapeday. Get a life dude.
@@brutusb8004 Ah yes, the 'if you defend a things right to exist then you must like it' angle.
No, I think it's trash but if there's a market for it then it should be sold.
I like games some people would say are very boring but it appeals to a minority of people who are very passionate about it.
@@dominicmanester8125 Sure thing bro. Get help.
@@brutusb8004 You first, furry boy. ;)
@@brutusb8004 you got owned mane XDD
the good valve games give off a feeling that no other game can, and it's sad that feeling will probably not be replicated again
You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself become the villain
I think a better quote for corporations would be "You either die a hero, or live long enough to see yourself dance between being a villain and a super villain."
I don't like seeing this quote everywhere in YT comments. It promotes a very cynical and pessimistic perspective of life. It can realistically go either way. I've seen plenty of not-so-great people get their shit together and make very positive changes in their lives. There are also "evil" people who will probably never jump to the other end of the spectrum like Klaus Schwab, Jeff Bezos, Bill Gates, most politicians, etc. And there are very good people who will stay that way.
And yes, people change; that doesn't mean they have to change from good to evil or vice versa in every case though. The only constant in this universe is change. Everything is in a constant state of flux and motion. If something appears static, it's because it's changing so slowly (or even so quickly) that you can't see it with your current frame of mind, senses, etc.
"They say people never change, but that's bullshit, they do"
- Tame Impala/Kevin Parker
@@mikeexits I mean you're right but...chill man, it's a quote from a Batman movie.
@@cri_c I couldn't possibly be more chill hahaha. Wasn't trying to come across as angry. When I see a discussion that seems too one-sided or an aspect of our culture that has clear flaws, I always do what I can to plant seeds and balance it out. Much love :)
Mikeeureko human have feeble mind and no power on earth can change it
The TF2 soundtrack is criminally underrated
In this video or the TF2 soundtrack overall? Because if the latter, you'd be talking at a wall because everyone knows the TF2 soundtrack is a banger.
"INTRUDER ALERT, RED SPY IN BLU BASE."
"There's a RED Spy in BLU base?"
_pit tam poom DEAUN DEAUN_
_Dun Dun Dun, DUN Dun DUN_
'hut hut hut hut hut hut'
*"PROTECT THE BRIEFCASE!"*
That’s an understatement
Not really
Not really
I hate geo-blocking, I really wanted to pay or watch something at once and the only way I could done it was through other means then easily getting it through steam... (one of those things are Ghost in the Shall SAC seris)
Why do you look like Gordon Freeman?
Valve isn't a triple A company they are a double A episode 1 company
They're so good, they're actually an Alyx A Company
Espoide 3 for half life was cancelled lol
@@near5148 do u know how to spell Episode
@@coltforceplayer *Espoide
@@DreamyAileen oh yeah my mistake
The greatest troll of all time would be if they titled their next Half-Life installment "Half-Life 4."
For some reason, I would love this to happen.
it could be a great idea like for example the expedition to the borealis went so wrong that nobody want to talk about it or something like that and you from the evidence left in game must speculate what happened or for exemple instead of being gordon you are some sorte of detective that have to find out what happened .
Half 4 Life
@@igorkoskin5214 - 4 Half 4 Furious.
@Ecard Ecardian Then make Half-Life 4 the prequel, which is actually Half-Life 3 to fill in the gaps, but they won't have called it 3.
i do enjoy they are the only ones to have a community area where you can address issues with a game and offer constructive feedback
21:05 thanks for the shout out man!
As someone with VR i'm happy to see things like Half Life: Alyx but I admit it is a rather big slap in the face to everyone else.
As somebody poor, that's what drew me to Steam and Valve games. TF2, Dota 2, etc. we're all free games that I could run on my potato of a PC.
VR is ridiculously expensive and that's the main thing that has pushed me away from Alyx.
@@compatriot852 oculus rift granted its 399 but a full version system package
When they said it was VR only I was pretty disappointed cause I personally rather play keyboard and mouse and after waiting over a decade a new half-life comes out and I don’t even get to play it which makes me pretty mad. This does give me hope for a future of half life being revived but idk everybody just wants half life 3 and to be on keyboard and mouse not VR only. To me it seems like Alyx is a test run so we will see
@Snowwy do you mean you can find it for $243?
Isn't there a 2D mod for alyx?
valve is probably the only big gaming company that is dumping money to advance the progress of gaming on linux. all their games have linux ports, and their vr headsets are the only ones that work native on linux. i can appreciate them for that
Tell what you want on their gaming development schedules and “anti-consumer” [fucking better than the other platforms by longshots] practices; Valve has and will continue to throw millions and work hard in R&D to push gaming to new extremes and accessibility, if it’s anything Valve loves, it’s community driven accessibility and supporting such ventures of modding, and Linux is open-source, literally the core concept of easily modified OS is something valve shares with games and no wonder they support it. They have faults but they aren’t a Bethesda or EA, theyre focused on technology than games, evident by the fact they are working with multiple companies in VR and even fucking BIC’s (Brain-Interfacing Computers) to advance such technologies to its best potential, and Alyx proved that by starting the push into VR AAA games.
This is because they are worried about Microsoft having control of windows and being a big gaming company at the same time. It's not because they are a good guy.
@@darkmaster539 Valve includes support for Linux and windows because Microsoft "controls" windows? How does that make any sense?
@@avae5343 yeah, they are a company. In capitalism (don’t know other systems) there is no good heart that lasts when they get big. That being said, as a Linux user I am very excited for what steam deck may do for Linux (even though I won’t buy one). Not sure it will be all (or any) I expect, but a man can only hope.
I would love to see what @Act Man has to say specifically about Valve third side (Linux and etecetera)
Letting consumers create art for their game and giving them a cut for the sales of it is an incredibly cool idea and it sucks that they completely screwed that whole idea.
Don't forget they refuse to give TF2 any actual full updates
And that's why I don't play with a rotten corpse when the kids are trying to put make up it and cover the smell with cologne of optimism and mitigation, literally just embalming it.
god TF2 was a mistake that game spawned the worst part of the valve community I hope that game never gets update.
@@BlueCreeperGang Honestly an update would be the one thing that would make the community less of a crappy mess.
“Did you ever hear the tragedy of the legendary Valve?”
(Slight head turn) No
Valve was a Dark Lord, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to create Games... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did.
taking an arrow to the knee is almost as painful as waiting for actman's why skyrim is so awesome
@@whiterunguard6415 I’d be down to watch act man give a review over Skyrim
I thought not. It's not a story Epic Games would tell you.
“Valve used to make games, now they only make money.” -Sun Tzu
Zanny and Act Man were a duo that was meant to happen
Definitely
he never say that...
@@the_bane_of_all_anti_furry that imposibl..
Sun Tzu said that and I'd say he knows a little more about gaming than you do pal, BECAUSE HE INVENTED IT
I remember the day it was announced that some big company I had never heard of was going to release a brand new version of my absolute favorite mod of any game ever. That company turned out to be Value and the game was DOTA. I have spent 15,000+ hours to date on this game and I will forver appreciate Value for helping create DOTA 2.
Thank you for your insight Mr. Freeman. I know this subject is very near and dear to your heart.
The Hate is an essential part of loving a game.
Fax
The way you know I like something is I critique it heavily.
D2 community from my experience lol they literally got #nerfstasis trending
@@mBowK You must be a League of Legends player posting 15 paragraph essay on r/leagueoflegends
@@Gigi-zr6hp I do play league but nah on the reddit part. Now I do give my lectures on discord from time to time but I try to avoid shouting into the void.
Edit: no hate on those who do. I occasionally browse the subreddit and read their shouts. Sometimes agreeing.
It’s so sad that no one on the valve team can count past 3 😔
Separate from all of this, I am curious on Act Man's thoughts on the Steam Deck and what Valve has done for the (non-Windows/multi-platform) gaming community over the past few years
Gamers: God I can't believe Valve doesnt make games anymore and just absorbs money from steam
Valve: *[internally screaming about Source 2]*
that engines going to be 200 years in development before they decide to do anything major with it. our grandkids will be able to enjoy source 2
@@Mr_War_ HLA is made with it and the S&box team finally finished the SDK
@@Mr_War_ and dota 2 after Wukong update using early stage of source 2
I feel like tf2 went severely undermentioned despite it being the best example of how terrible valve can. Its the perfect example to see just how dysfunctional they are, as the case of tf2 is far more drastic than any other valve game.
Yeah the last big update for tf2 was launched in 2017 and no one gets rid of those bots in casual.
WE GOT SNAKES
we got worms
@@FolstrimHori you're goddamn right
I still having fun with TF2 for all these years Xd
Really great video man I can tell this took a long time. I am doing a school project about Valve and I appreciate all the info you compiled here.
A school project on Valve?
That explains why the education system is in the toilet.
Well, Who’s here after Valve sent a DMCA takedown notice to the fans who made Team Fortress 2: Source 2?
There are 3 things that make Valve known:
1: they make awesome games
2: have questionable methods to gain more money.
That' it.
Why do so less people understand the "3" joke XD
@@firelord3361 lit
4. Can't count "Three" or what is that is.
The fact that you didnt include fact 3 makes so much sense because valve doesn't know how to count to 3.
Genius! xD
We could have had a TF2 Adult Swim TV series, back before Adult Swim was a shell of itself, but Valve dragged its feet for so long, that the deal fell through.
And now Rick May has sadly passed, so it’s never going to happen.
what about a Venture Bros cross over??
@@mariano98ify i don’t even know what that is
@@blaniac6591 sacrilege, check YT
@@mariano98ify Venture Bros got canceled.
@@ranfan1820 I know, fucking sad
The fact that gabe acts like its a joke everytime someone asks shows he doesn’t give a shit tbh
Valve hasn’t fallen yet. They just don’t pump garbage out of the studio just to make absurd deadlines
Because they don't make anything period.
@@wubbers662 touché
Because they make nothing, it has been 17 years since their last title.
I honestly don’t know which is worse a company that makes bad games or no games
“We are concerned that Valve may be replicating the experience for which EA is known.” Keep the meme alive
"We are concerned that this coment may be replicating the expirience that PUBG is known for"
@B T R Something similar. Check out the Tragedy of PUBG. The exact quote is in the first few minutes of the video.
@B T R yep the devs said that about fortnite
That is the origin
@@stoyangenov6793 we are concerned that this reply may be replicating the experience for which YT comments is known for.
The funny thing about Gabe and Microsoft is that gabe worked on Windows 1 ,windows 2 and windows 2.1
So that is why he cant make a 3rd part
Imagine if that was an inside joke Gabe's so committed to even until now..
LOL this is an underrated comment lol
I wonder if you have other studios who could deserve that kind of video. Me I started gaming in 2010s so aside from ubisoft I didn't get to witness this dramatic of self destructions. (Thanks for all the knowledge you carried from the great times btw 🙏)
"Remember, the lesser of two evils is still evil, and the enemy of my enemy is not my friend."
- Penn Jillette
Valve is the video game equivalent to Willy Wonka’s Chocolate Factory
This is perfect
Gabby newells vid'game factory
small men doing a tribal dance in celebration of the dead children
Slavery?
Dead Children?
Me, who bought The Orange Box for £6:
*_This is business baby_*
I bought it for 4 and got half life with it, take that
6 what?
@@javierriveraparra7429 pound
I HAD A PLAN
@@thenameusmitch5270 sure you did
I never had seen that Forum post about HL2 leaks-
the basic and simple yet kind things people said in response touched my heart
I love how you used music from every major valve game (Half-Life, Team Fortress 2 and Left 4 Dead; after all can't be talking about Valve without using their music) but also included my favourite Star Wars Sith theme.
It’s such a shame that so many beloved companies fall to greed
Valve, Rockstar, Blizzard, EA, etc. Our generation has experienced the rise and fall of these great companies.
Bungie as well
Idk about this, I can't say I agree with calling valve greedy considering how many money making methods are out there for the people who invest in their releases
@@sauzeeee why rockstar?
@Rahul 007 supercell what? lol. i don't think they were ever considered a good company. only releasing p2w games
The tf2 ost is one of the most hype soundtracks ever
Meet the like button
@@a-10warthog78 TU,TU,TUT!
I don't know what to start with you. I mean,do you even know who you like tho?
@@lestranger7440 I met this really cool Panzer VI once, she had a nice machine gun... but she was too old and ended up in a museum.
know what they should do?
Have a specific team (that you can apply to join within the company) which is Valve Core (or called something similar). This team focuses only on the Valve Company and its 1st party releases, full time, and votes on which projects to pursue and who will manage what internally. Then, the rest of the company can be completely flat. I think that would be cool.
I subscribed the moment you made the Futurama reference. Well done, sir. You had me at blackjack and hookers.
Edit: The "you stupid" Simpsons clip later in the video was the icing on the cake. Classic Simpsons and Futurama references used for comedic beats? A man after my own heart!
Anyone else remember operation crow bar when people started mass mailing crow bars to Valve as a protest for no info on HL3?
Holly shit, I never know about it, the power of internet and memes is understimated
@@andrescamiloramosr Basically what happened - I can't remember exactly when but it was a while back. People logged onto Amazon and bought the cheapest crowbar they could find, and had it posted to the Valve HQ in Bellevue, Washington.
They got literally thousands of them and had to spend money disposing of them.
@@AtemiRaven . . . Hold my credit card
"Valve really has become Harvey Dent, two sides of the same coin, one good, one evil"
Perfectly put, The Act Man.
Hyori ittai yubi de hajiku koin ga sora ni mau
Do I detect a problem with figures of speech?
Gimme this mustache
This guy comments everywhere
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOO YOU ARE HERE TOO!
no matter what valve do, their support for linux gaming is all i need to love them.
What's a Linux?
@@anthonysoto2923 an open source operating system based on bsd known for being hard to use as you need to know the terminal but steam is trying to make it user friendlier it has many distributions the easiest to use are fedora and ubuntu because they have an app manager
@@hjrgf It's not based on BSD and it's not hard to use lmao. On most distros like Fedora, the terminal is just there if you want to use it, but you don't have to... you know, just like windows' cmd.
@@speedytruck no it is since most of the appstores are bad and theres many issues that you will encounter that you need to know nano and terminal
@@hjrgf "Appstores" There is one, and it's called Flathub. There maybe various frontends, but one appstore. And why do you use nano? You do realize there are GUI text editors like gedit on GNU/Linux, right?
i just got to say that the deadrising mall music in this video is perfect with the setting of where this video is heading
"You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain"
AND THEM COME BACK TO THE GOOD SIDE
Valve basically became EA of PC Gaming :(
@@verdan_ater no they didn't lmao
@@verdan_ater EA manages to be worse, and don't forget about Activision
@@verdan_ater not even close
For me Valve is like that child who is very lazy in doing things, but when he does them they are great
"Brilliant but lazy" - Spider-Man 2
Valve *WAS* that kid. Now it's the entitled selfish 20-something who expects everyone to worship the ground they walk on because of past success. And kicks them in the face if they miss a spot then still tries to play the hero when called out for it.
Yep, just like me. I'm gonna make the best game ever, as soon as I get off my butt to do it. 😂
@@Isaiah-ft5nx no no no no- smart small,learn to program, 3d model, and evrything in game develepmont, just make small stuff just for the learning and when u learn maybe u can go for the big fish (that is whataver idea u have for a game)
@@Isaiah-ft5nx Do it. But don't release Steam exclusive (seriously, growing numbers of people are finding out the client's been a health risk since late 2019), launch on GOG or itch.io or somewhere else as well.
And I say this as someone who's made a card game and published it (and earned like $10 in the past year from it), so DO IT! Even if just for the experience, it's worth it. Yes I know digital and physical games are a very different production process, but I did the ezmode option of using a print on demand service for my game so I'm making (small) profit on every sale.
This is one of THE BEST videos detailing the history of a company and how consumers reacted to that change. Both informational and entertainment value through the roof. Very well done Act Man. Well done
H3H3's downfall story is similar to Valves.
Huh, I never thought of it like that
"How did a 6-month period turn into 13 years" sounds a lot like "how did a 2-weeks to stop the spread turn into 1 and 1/2 years"
Careful with that wrong-think there.
@@azealous5108 No, no. Just hand him a big red button, I wanna see where this goes.
@@leandersearle5094 one errant twitch...
@@nobleradical2158 And we all get more fun than we are legally entitled too. Everybody wins!
@David Cole Based.
the only place where valve´s fall is undeniable is tf2, they killed the best hero shooter because it wasnt bringing the dough...
“Frickin’ unbelievable”
- Scout
I wouldn't say it's the only place where their downfall is undeniable, but it's certainly one of the most grievous examples (if not the most).
From what I understand the team became frustrated because the game became so bloated, that adding or fixing anything with the convoluted code always broke something.
What's funny is that TF2 is definitely profitable, it's one of the biggest games on Steam, Valve just got bored of it.
They're killing it by not caring about it
This like my 3rd time watching this. Funny edits and entertaining content as always. Your shit never gets old
I have yet to see a company that is consumer and employee friendly
Valve: An example of when Corporatisation gets in the way of creativity and morals
taking an arrow to the knee is almost as painful as waiting for actman's why skyrim is so awesome
At least they aren’t as a bad as Bethesda
@@whiterunguard6415 holy shit touch grass.
@@ghostly2238 at least Bethesda makes games
@@whiterunguard6415 Go kick rocks. Your clearly bored.
What’s funny about Artifact was that, because its reach was so small, people were able to get away with streaming hardcore pornography on Twitch despite putting “Artifact” in their stream titles
Like seriously?
@@dragoonman1478 yeah, among many other things that were entirely unrelated
@@Zitronbtw among us
that trend started with fans of livestreamer "forsen" when he got banned. Artifact was always a meme in the community, being a dead game on release and all, so they chose that to entertain themselves until forsen got unbanned.
You didn't mention day of defeat during the "rise of valve" section, 0/10 video I will never emotionally recover from this
Damn bro. this video was damn good. I'm not talking about just the topic, it's literally everything about it.
The ironic thing is, all they’d have to do is make HL3 or L4D3 and the hype around them would make them an absolute fortune
Can't make em if you can't count to 3
The thing is. They know that
I believe they make so much passive money through steam that they don't want to risk making anything really. Especially HL3.
I think that (despite Artifact existing) Valve cares about the quality of their games, and they don't really want to chance it by making another game in one of their critically acclaimed series because they might not be able to outdo what they've already done in their prime, and it will just backfire horrendously.
@@awzp918 ironic most game studio would milk the hell out of it
I thought Valve had a new rise with Alyx but knowing what you explained, I gotta agreed.
THEY ARE HARVEY DENT OMG!!
Honestly Alyx feels more like a demo of a game.
@@MagicHamsta have you played alyx?
@@MagicHamsta what?
Half Life Alyx was a fantastic game. So much immersion and attention to detail.
It's ironic that Steam was meant to be the shoulder for Valve to lean on to develop their games, and one could argue it's the very same reason Valve doesn't really develop games anymore
There's so many ironies with Valve, like mentioned in the video the whole 'episodes' thing that was intended to shorten time between game releases.
Gabe at some point in his childhood got ptsd from the letter 3.