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Escape From Tarkov is an extremely popular Extraction Shooter. Unfortunately, the developers recently outed themselves as a horrible, greedy company willing to scam, lie and deceive their audience. Truly shameless...
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___TIME STAMPS___
Introduction - 0:00
Unheard Edition Announced - 2:35
Pay-To-Win - 6:03
From Bad to Worse (The Double Down) - 7:14
The Triple Down - 9:45
Hiding the Evidence - 10:55
Other Developers Join in - 12:20
The Quadruple Down - 14:20
The Quintuple Down (Leaked Interview) - 16:48
The Sextuple Down - 19:34
Walking it Back - 21:48
Conclusion - 23:06 - Hry
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Escape From Tarkov is an extremely popular Extraction Shooter. Unfortunately, the developers recently outed themselves as a horrible, greedy company willing to scam, lie and deceive their audience. Truly shameless...
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Were you playing the pause menu screen music for Goldeneye for the N64?
gotta get dat bag đ°đ°đ°
Cant have shit in gaming anymore
cant even shit while gaming anymore either
I can't eat shit in gaming anymore đ€Š
Helldivers is fine Sony backed down
â@@cheesebucketman1606âit would've been anyways. Pc gamers are the part of the gaming community that boycot Starbucks over not saying merry Christmas. Those consumers bitch no matter what.
@@cheesebucketman1606Real. but the fact the whole community had to fight for it to begin with is wild
I miss the time where games were bad just because they were bad, not because they were scams or unfinished.
I think the Suicide Squad game would like a word with you
lol, when I hear "people paying 50$ for every DLC in a game that has been in BETA for 6-7 years already"... It's NEVER going out of BETA you guys, and if it did it would probably be outdated by far compared to other games, they can't overhaul the graphical enigine the game was made with without starting from scratch for instance ;-) And on top of that, part of the "BETA game clause" is that "things may be changed at any time, including the usefullness of your already bought premium items, game mechanics could be changed so bad it almost becomes a new genre"... You could just as well be answering phising mails with your fingers crossed at this point đ
Honestly though, a lot of the time âbadâ games back then actually arent all that bad
â@@shatteredcore you are so right. The last game I have ever pre-ordered was destiny 1. After that never again. If a game is in beta, alpha, early access unless it's free I ain't paying. (to take a page from the dev saying it "ain't" dlc)
This is a solid, Great Point. I played Deus Ex on PlayStation when I was a little kid. That game sucked SO bad, to my little kid mind. I didn't get what I was doing, or what TO do. Then I played Metal Gear Solid and my child brain started to form opinions on what was good and bad. Today, it's just overpriced, lacking content, money hungry scams.
âDLC in our understanding is the major additions to the gameâ Then WTF WOULD I BE PAYING $250 FOR???
Those microtransactions are really getting out of hand! đ
@@Warmaka This isn't a microtransaction. This isn't even a macrotransaction. This is a Super-macrotransaction.
@@shadowsniper9542 More like scamtraction.
I remember times when H&D2 was like 50$ and Sabre Squadron that not only added few QoL changes, was pack of 9 missions with quarter of assets being new. Base game had 16 missions. And that DLC was like 20$ at release...
This situation is like the South Park episode with the guy petting the baby seal sarcastically saying "We're sorry, we're very sorry"
That guy was the CEO of an OIL Company :)
Maybe if everybody who messes up had to do a real public video like that, it would help.
And I mean the people who decided, not some poor PR Schmuck
i rwad that in the ceos voice đđ
We have finally escaped from Tarkov
nah you werent playing before all of this happened anyway. the vid is a giant dick ride and way late. the drama is over. everyone still crying just wants to feel included.
This is the greatest escape from tarkov of all time
Dollars to Donuts, you haven't but aight!
truly one of the escapes of all time
@@RealityMusic912 Sounds like you havent.
Whatâs funny is that the Helldivers II decision has been undone in just a few days. Who knew that trying to target the community thats all about uniting, would unite against them? CrazyâŠ
Really goes to show just how awful the Tarkov devs are when they KEPT doubling down and refusing to backtrack their horrible decisions for so long.
@@zzirSupeR Only took them losing all of their credibility and reputation, aswell as significantly damaging the future of the game.
Problem with tarkov is we can't review bomb it or request refunds or anything like that. They don't make it easy to contact them or support if they were on steam the game would've died a while ago
but BSG did fix the issues. there is litteraly not a single point to be mad about anymore
Oh, they have undone it?
That's good then, at least.
The more scams that I see from video game companies, the more I appreciate indie games getting popular to this day.
And yes, I canât believe that Sony did this to Helldivers 2. *Shame* đ
I tend to agree. Its like big publishers is aiming to become start ups again . . Mb its a good thing for sonny to loose income and break them selfs.
The craziest thing about this is I've been playing the SPTarkov mod for a while because I got fed up with all the cheaters in the Live version, and now Battlestate want to sell me an official version of SPTarkov for $250?
Naw, I think I'm good chief. I don't have friends that play Tarkov, so I don't need co-op. SPTarkov is all I need.
Same here. I've been using SPT since version 1 and never looked back.
Major Order complete, Consumer rights liberated from SONY
Not yet.
Not until everyone can play again.
yeah big w, hopefully we can do the same for ubisoft/ea/microsoft games that do the same thing.
Sales for other countries are still not available for HD2. Especially countries like Russia and the Philippines. I can still play in the Philippines no problem, but can't seem to find the buy button on the store page.
I'm still not changing my review yet, we'll just wait and see.
Les go
â@@bulletkingaming2808it may take time for Steam to deal with that, cause I think that was a Steam decision, but I'm certain that'll be cleared up eventually.
The fuck do they mean PvE is too expensive and technically hard right now
Tony stark built PvE in a cave with a box of scraps
Hurr durr, servers cost money. Are you new to the world? Were you born yesterday?
Like disagree with it if you want, but how do you not understand that servers cost money? Are you just fucking stupid?
LMAO
Guess it never crossed their minds that someone could HOST the Lobby instead of playing on Dedicated servers (not the best, but at least a fast and easy solution)
They are just greedy or dumb. Or both.
â@@zordiark9673 tarkov is such a spaghetti code fucking mess of a game. like its actually kind of impressive. afaik it was a passion project that took off, they are an unexperienced team using a outdated engine working off of years of bad code. id be surprised if they could even get the co op pve to work
free mpt tarkov mod go brrrrr fuck that 250$ shit
The fact I gave BSG over $100 for the EOD edition, which they stated was supposed to get every future DLC, ends up that they tried to pull this, if I didn't already quit because of being unable to keep up with wipes and also because of the cheaters, I'd be real upset right now.
I thought got a second this video was about Helldivers 2 and realized how dated the video just became
Bruh I had to go back and re-edit some parts of this cuz of that. But the Helldivers ended up winning
Lol. Bad timing.
@@TheActMan Crazy, You are genuinely writing comments to fans at the release time of your videos at 2 million subscribers. massive respect.
@@TheActMan yeah, but not without its loses
It's like a competition to the bottom
Wow, $250, you could buy Witcher 3, Skyrim, GTAV, COD black ops, World at War, and youâd still have about $20 left
You could even get some *dlc* with that money
You could buy 20 horse armor dlcs!
Its closer to $330 after fees and taxes lmao
And if you play games, you probably already own all of those... probably multiple copies as well.
Lmao literally played all those games in the past few months except GTAIV. Guess it's time for some bowling!
The fact that EFT was never on Steam was the initial reason why I never bought it. I knew this would be a scam.
Come on Nostradamus hurry up and tell us who is going to start the next world war oh great knower of things!
Why would it matter if a game isn't on steam?
@@agentnukaz1715 because no refund plus no market accountability. On steam, if your game is a Beta/Early Access you can't release DLC, meaning you'd have to finish the game first before charging for extra.
â@@agentnukaz1715Quality control, mostly. Even when quality cannot be always guaranteed, Steam still has solid refund policies.
@@agentnukaz1715 because Steam has an increased "Quality Controll" regulation that, IF it is challenged, the game is not only removed, but ALL the money people spent on it is refunded. there is a reason why Pre-Ordering on Steam doesnt instantly pay out to developers. it takes a week outside of Pre-Orders for that money to be give to the developers, and in Pre-Purchase orders, it is given a month after the game releases, to safeguard the money in case the game is nothing more than a ling winded scam.
going outside of steam is a way to bypass that.
russian devs, didnt expect much
Like gaijin lol
Da comrade communist ways no?
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@@XverructX Its pretty much capitalism on the dot
Humor me tho, where does this believe come from that late-stage capitalism is communism? Ive seen it a bunch of times now, is it just a coping mechanism?
The craziest part about the whole "is it DLC?" thing is that Tarkov is still a game in closed beta, therefore the product isnt even finished and so anything they put out until release is simply the base game...
Yeah technically everything added to the game should be available to everyone if they're trying to claim it's still a beta product. I feel like they're lucky people have put up with all these different bullshit editions at all, then they do this shit lol
Basically paying for update lmao
They're literally trying to retroactively redefine what the term "DLC" means so that they can gaslight their customers into accepting that they paid all that money for a bait and switch scam. It's all so scummy, they deserve to have their game die if this is how they treat their most loyal supporters.
quite literally.. yes.
Based AF
Helldivers 2 went from Overwhelmingly Negative to Mixed in less than a day after Sony retracted their stupid PSN requirement. I've never seen something like that before.
I bet in a week they will introduce the lumunids or add the others vehicles it will become overwhelming positive
@@Keirasgaming Lumunids? Did the Illuminate and Terminids crossbreed?
That's because we Dive as One, or not at all!
07
for rock and stone
â@@Keirasgamingwe're not congratulating Sony we're reloading for next time.
"Zoom Zoom itÂŽs time to consume!" Bloody brilliant!
Russian Game Developers being greedy is not an uncommon theme in the industry.
Yeah every big dev is greedy
Lol like the non Russian ones arenât đ
Lol like the non Russian ones arenât đ
Community notes on social media has been such a wonderous thing
A beautiful thing indeed
Better idea than the Tesla tbh
The best idea Musk ever had, and he got dunked by it twice.
@@vladimiradidas1945that idea seems way to smart to be Elons.
ââ@@vladimiradidas1945 It was on Twitter before Elon. Not his idea.
BSG made a series of errors where they chose literally the worst option at every step. Not only did they piss off EOD owners by not giving them what was promised, they pissed off the whales who bought at the $250 price point by lowering the price and walking back the features included just days after the package was released. The genre needs more competition desperately
TBH, if you are willing to pay $150 for a game, the devs probably don't respect you in the slightest and just think you're going to whale for them no matter what. People need to stand up for themselves and stop paying way too much money.
i love your fishtank videos
Iâm waiting desperately for Bungieâs Marathon which will be an extraction shooter that will maybe be good. Even though Bungie doesnât have the best track record as of recently, they at least donât have the gull to charge 250 BUCKS FOR a OFFLINE MODE.
@@KarazolaX TBH, if you're willing to pay even $1 for a beta you're out of your mind already. People who funded this game are absolutely a part of the problem.
ââ@@KarazolaXI've bought Deluxe Steelbook edition of Devil May Cry 5 and as much as I absolutely love this game... I had to pay extra for Vergil DLC, current-gen upgrade... Oh, sorry, "Special Edition" cost some money too and I was not happy about that. At least I caught Vergil DLC on sale, but Deluxe edition wasn't so deluxe... So yeah, you're right and Capcom is begining to see that with Dragon's Dogma 2 fiasco. So as Sony, Bethesda and hopefully many other studios.
This is, actually, the default practice for the Russian MMO devs:
1. Remove people with critical thinking at the initial stage of the project.
2. Start to lightly milk the remaining players, teaching them to part with their money easily.
3. When the project begins to lose popularity, the developers begin to squeeze every cent out of the remaining player base - until the project finally dies.
First point on this list actually applies with everythig that Russians touch lol
Itâs like one major company makes a bad decision/mistake and another one like âhold my beerâ itâs literally a competition to see who can make the biggest controversies of the year and itâs downright hilarious (also painful)
They basically said "it's not DLC it's CLD: Complete-Ly-Different"
No wonder they're so hesitant to release on steam, too scared of refunds and absolutely trashing their rating with stupid decisions.
It was probably initially because of the 30% valve cut but yeah they would have been review bombed into oblivion with this
Hopefully they do and get shutdown
@@TyDie1 Yeah, go purchase the 20th reskin of Call of Duty and act like you actually have standards lmfao. Jesus Christ. The selective outrage is absolutely hilarious. You people are dumb as bricks.
@@zilliq-qz5uw they are more scared to have a 30% positive review ratio, than the 30% cut off from valve
âIâm sorry you are experiencing these feelingsâ gaslighting a whole community is wiiiiildđđ
imagine how bad this dude is in REGULAR relationships.... CEO is a POS
Not gaslighting. It is however some pretty toxic, narcissistic behaviour.
@@BouncerMcDayGreen it is though, trying to make you think your feelings are unjustified, which is manipulation
Can someone give me an example of gaslighting? I feel like that shit is just made up
â@@dominicvega9267 something like forcing a person to think that everything is normal even though it isn't.
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Helldivers: Hahahahah you suck imagine having a game with a giant controversy!
Sony: đ
and the people that complain about tarkov are for the most part people that don't play the game or give even more money each year to cod buy buying overpriced skins but to each theyre own
@@mrphoenix5951. Again, false equivalence; Also, congratulations on showing you morons have no actual argument.
Every company thinks that gamers will just roll over and accept whatever they offer. Once gaming got big enough, all the suits took control from the creatives. Such a shame the way business works.
Well to be fair the gamers did roll over and take it for years, I've honestly almost pretty much stopped playing video games all together in the past 5 years, finally people are starting to wake up after years of this crap, the cunsumers are jist as much to blame as the greedy suites.
They're not wrong though. Because that's literally what they do after enough time has passed. Outside rare instances of 3rd parties forcing things to change or removing them all together (Day Before for example lol).
While there's an open rebellion against EFT/BSG right now. By the end of the year, most will have moved on to the next hot topic/scam/issue. Not only that, many just don't give a single shred of shit and will still buy it anyways. Die hard fans / gamers are a tiny sliver of the userbase as a whole. Which is why suprise mechanics still exist and all the other anti-consumer garbage.
People eventually roll over and just "deal with it". Sadly.
@@StallionFernando Except for Madden. Madden fans will forever kiss EA's ass until the end of time.
Mostly because they know that stupid people exist and they outnumber the more intelligent consumers in the gaming world. Until more of us are smart enough to not buy into this crap, these companies will keep pulling stunts like this. I fell for this same junk with Anthem. Never again.
BSG asked for one purchase 6 years ago, unprecedented in gaming..you sir are a reddit karen
Cant believe that Ubisoft charges 130$ for AAAA games, while Tarkov is so advanced that they charge 250$ for a AAAAA Game edition
Canât believe suckers still give Ubisoft their money
I read that âAAAAAâ as a scream, which works just as well.
@@realinitials4909 Soon it will be like that in future, just AAAAAAAAAA Games
@@realinitials4909 AHAHHAHAHA
@@bobdeslob8768 Cant believe it either, im just so shocked that Ubisoft calls their Games AAAA when they are Indie at most
The economic situation must be getting really tough in Russia đ
15:21 "You didn't spend enough, you dumbass" made me laugh more than it should, it was the emphasis of how you said it lmao
"shouldn't you be honest with the community?"
" We are honest "
*Community manager notes how this interview was supposed to be edited prior to release*
The honesty levels of bsg are under the charts
..........................................................................
So let me get this straight. Editing content means you're dishonest?
Ok, so this video you're watching..... it's dishonest.... along with basically everything else on the Internet? Jfc.
I didn't expect intelligence in this comments section, but jesus christ dude. Are you ok? Is your helmet on?
its technically "off the charts" honesty. just going through the rock bottom limit of the graph.
People often forget, that the Unheard edition is not 250 USD. Its 250 USD + taxes + fees. The real price is around 330 USD.
counterpoint, the single player mod is free. I'm just gonna use that tbh.
â@@supernovicrainnythhow much do you want to bet that the PVE mode is heavily based on that mod.
Convert that into Malaysian Ringgit, it's RM 1416. Or in short, a normal Malaysian worker's monthly salary đż
Thatâs 347$ cdn for meâŠ. Iâll pass đ
There are plenty of people in my country who don't get 330 USD as a base monthly salary. And we aren't even that poor.
That Salty Spitoon bouncer impression was impeccable
Seeing a new actman video is like discovery you actually had something good in your fridge to eat instead the same old crap
For real
The sheer level of audacity and greed exhibited by Battle State Games is truly mind-boggling. This entire fiasco serves as a stark reminder that the gaming industry should prioritize gamers' interest and maintain a fair business model.
if only the AAA game studios agreed with you :(
@@ninja666gaming Dont you mean AAAA?
This fiasco serves as a stark reminder that these AAA companies see us as nothing more than paypigs.
Seems they are just looking at exit strat. Just get the bag and run. Close the game down.
I saw it as russia aggressively extracting capital from americans. Im sure russian companies are all doing a similar play.
I get the feeling 2024 is gonna be the year of companies in the gaming industry absolutely torpedoing their reputations
BSG have a great reputation, a bunch of cunty content creators lying about them won't change that to their loyal fanbase.
Bunch of people in here acting like they don't know what "season pass" means, get the fuck out. Go purchase the 20th version of COD and act like you have standards ffs.
The Age of Gamer Gate, retaliation
Is there a single year when a major company doesn't do that ?
Previously it was the age of allegation galore
The players and fan bases are gonna boycott and shit all over them I hope.
That RWJ transition into the ad sent me back straight to 2012 đ€Ł
you fucked me up so bad with that =3 transition, i had ptsd flashbacks of my childhood all in one moment
Here in Germany it would cost around 300⏠because in the 250⏠price tag the taxes aren't even included and not even the PayPal fees
jesus christ
Ouch
Which is also illegal in Europe, it was always like this but tax being added at checkout is illegal and the fact that they are comfortable with this is also a giant red flag even if i did buy EOD.
There is a small note on the website which says that in some countries the price varies because of the taxes. But I never saw it that the taxes aren't included in the price tag
â@@TheActMan Glad a lot of people are discussing more of these scam situations, We're just very grateful that we are telling everyone else about this to prevent them from falling into them!
Literally today, Sony decided to revert the upcoming account link requirement because of the back lash.
We got our eyes on you Sony...
Well I mean awhile ago they went back on their decision to shut down the ps3 store, and haven't tried again. (Infact with the 360 shutdown it's now the last 7th gen online store left)
Really??? That actually makes me like them more, Iâm surprised they would actually do that and not just keep being a greedy shit hole of a company
â@@Some_guy-on-the-internetgreed was the factor in their decision. Not care for you and I.
@@Dravianpn02 yeah I just realized that it was probably because steam was letting people refund the game.
ââ@@Some_guy-on-the-internet
Yeah, I'm pretty sure the refunds were the last nail in the coffin in Sony's decision to walk back on the PSN linking. It was always stupid, especially for the non PSN supported countries like mine where you can buy the game. I can create an account but I can't put in legitimate info because my country isn't even on the list
*Your Rod Serling impression is 10/10.*
It's funny since Nikita's last name, Buyanov, contains the root word "buyanit", which basically refers to the act of shouting in an obnoxious manner, or manifesting scandals out of thin air (at least in Russian).
Rofl. Lmao even.
âItâs not DLCâ has the same energy as Diablo Immortals âWe said you couldnât buy gear, not gemsâ.
Tbf I always considered DLC to be optional downloadable content, is this like a season pass or smth?
A story as old as modern gaming:
Players: Wow, this game has a really unique identity, and a very subdued monetization system. I can't wait to see what they do with it next
Corporate greed: Allow me to introduce myself
This isn't even corporate greed. All this is, is an attempt by the pro-Putin Russian nationalists in charge of the game to scam Westerners. I'll note that the prices in Russian Rubles are equivalent to under $40 for EOD and under $60 for the Unheard edition.
One can imagine a corporate man's house constantly whisper "there must be more money!" to his ears.
Nice profile picture, by the way đ
Wow a live service game I sure hope no one screws it up đ€Ą
The Dutch parallels are so on-point I fecking love it.
Thanks for taking the story further than most outlets.
Gaming as a whole since 2009 has gotten steadily worse. The sharp spike happend in 2013. And now were here "fuck you, give us cash"
Thankfully, Sony backpedaled the whole account sync thing. Turns out you can get refunded by Steam for a game that you won't be able to play. Why they didn't realize this was going to be a bad idea from the get-go is beyond me.
Arrogance. They've dominated the console market the past decade and feel that they can get away with anything.
With how stupid of a decision it was to make it mandatory for a psn account, I don't think they would get this much backlash. Helldivers has literally unit people in a make believe "console war"
@@lancelotto475just like back in the ps3 days.
They said they were gonna do it early on but weren't able to, because of certain issues. I can't remember it well but there was something about it then we didn't hear anything anymore about it until now.
@@lancelotto475 I dont even think it was entirely arrogance.
Usually these big companies are smart enough to run it by the big ass team of Lawyers they have on retainer first.
These dumbasses literally did not. Even a undergraduate law student would be able to tell you what they tried to pull was illegal as shit. No doubt their Legal team sent them an email titled "what the fuck did you do?
They did the single dumbest thing a big corporation could possibly do, and thats not contact their legal team first.
A few youtubers have noted that when corporate greed goes fully off the rails, it's not about getting all YOUR money, they want to get ALL the money. Ever. All the time, forever. That's when you get shit like this.
The notion of infinite growth is to blame for this garbage. Whether it be executives or shareholders, there are people in seemingly every company that demand continuous growth at all costs. It's not enough to remain profitable, you have to show growth. There are only so many organic ways a company can grow and sooner or later you run into anti-consumer garbage like this. If somebody in the company tries to put their foot down and says no we can't do this and infinite growth is not feasible, that person will probably get replaced with somebody who promises infinite growth
And this is why AAA is doomed to collapse this decade. Their greed has gone terminal and an economic crisis is looming. When it strikes, all those companies will crumble like wet cardboard.
@@FIDEL_CASHFLOW_ Excellent observation, been seeing this at my job, company got merged with a American group couple years back.
Sometimes i read the email from the CEO, talking about keeping the shareholders happy, WTF are you talking man, no interest in the business itself
Look at the state of the world, itâs becoming like this with everything
chinse and Russian developers of anything are insane honestly
So happy to have been here since the 100 sub special, keep getting these companies and garbage content creators Act you lead a community who understands the difference between good and bad
What amazes me is that the devs doesn't know that the internet never forgets? They do realize that even if they changed the wording on webpages, all past stuff can still be seen on wayback machine. So dumb.
The audacity of that was so intense I think they might actually just be dumb. Idk why on earth any company would ever think they could get away with changing public material like that. Especially if you're popular.
lol and someone asked them why they changed it and their response was âchanged what?â Or something along those lines⊠but yeah, I agree, itâs laughable and pathetic
Wonder if they'll take a note from Blizzard's book and announce a random character as gay... then have Activision drafting up C&D for plagiarizing their well known defense move.
Battlestate Games are such noobs to the industry. You're not suppose to get $250 from your players all at once, you're suppose to get it over weeks/months from microtransactions.
Rookie mistake Battlestate Games.
Like they could've introduced a $ubscription for access to the PVE mode and then use a priority system for who can subscribe to it while they setup the infrastructure. EZ money.
Payday 2. I bought all the DLC.... still worth it.
Thats how they get you, thats why an obscure 2013 FPS game like Warface still has $20 p2w gun microtransactions: People are just simply in it too deep rather than wanting to play something similar
@@Tejaneaux-ic8dpSunk cost fallacy at work!!!
The funniest part is that they actually DID implement microtransactions in the form of extra gear, inventory storage slots, and I think one more category, but they hit the greedwall hard with this one total pooping of the bed
And people out there say "gaming is not horrible right now, theres indie games"
yeah piss off
If you're on a lavender field but stick your nose in a pile of shit then say "this lavender field smells like shit" I'd say that's on you.
@@floreroafloreril1458 My man, the single lavender between a field of shit are indie games.
And i want my damn field to not be shitty.
@@Fosten12 There's no way that makes sense. Indie games are not a small part of the industry. I can easily name 3 good indie games for every AAA shit that comes out.
If you really think there are more AAA games than indie games, do your homework.
This is top notch research, reporting and expert opinion in one. Happy to have found your channelđ
hey that's some really good Tarkov gameplay I wonder which chad it belongs to
Thanks for the amazing footage, brother
Common HiddenXperia W
truly the HiddenXperia moment of all time
well he didnt stop to talk about the flood, cant be you
It's me
They are basically saying that if you wanna play the full game with your buddies - just pirate it. I'm a game developer myself, and seeing stuff like that just boggles my mind.
I think that it all happened because the pay for servers monthly, but only get money from the players once - during the initial purchase, making the game non-profitable from the start. They should have made it subscription based like WoW or find some other way that's not blatantly scamming their supporters.
"DLC refers to additional content gamers download for video games AFTER THEIR INITIAL LAUNCH" Meaning that PVE is more like a base game feature/mode only accessible through higher versions
â@@Hikari41618lmao
and as lord gabe said, "if a mf pirates my game, it's my fault bro." or something like that.
also now that i am making my own game, i have so much respect for people who have to make textures. how the fuck do you people do this. also humanoid things, i just don't get it.
â@Hikari41618 i hope youre doing a bit because yeah no pve is an added gamemode that requires the basegame
@@Hikari41618 I am not giving you $250 plus tip, Nikita
These studios really need to stop uniting us against them like this. You can release a bad feature and win against 20% of the player base, but when you've got 80% of your customers riled up and angry, you're going to lose. To any observer, this update was very clearly going to be extremely unpopular, yet they were so out of touch with the player base that they didn't see this coming.
They turned a one of a kind game into a loot box without any loot, and then demanded you be gratefully and pay twice. Take their box away.
The last time I saw so many red flags such as
âDLC in our understanding isâ
It was the Olympics in Beijing.
"China is not communist, ist a China-style democracy" - China
Weren't Chinese judges/regulators ignoring blatant fowls/cheating by Chinese athletes during the last Olympics?
Holy crap dude... I bought my PlayStation 4 for $249.99...
The fact that they even achieved this is nuts. Did somebody, _anybody_ not look at the price tag and think, "hey maybe this is a little ludicrous?"
Forget BSG caring about their players, how could they possibly have expected that this wouldn't blow up catastrophically in their faces?? It boggles the mind that anybody thought selling a single game at around the same price as a game _console_ was a good idea in any way, shape, or form.
When people are already spending $150 on the game, asking for another $100 isn't that much more outrageous.
To be entirely honest, If BSG had released the Unheard edition with just additional convenience items and cosmetics, no one would've cared. Hell, it probably would've even sold decently, because the EFT community is ridiculous. To get an idea how absurd the EFT community is, consider myself. I literally bought myself both an EoD edition, plus an additional standard edition, because I love the game that much, and wanted the option to play the game "vanilla" again, without all the additional EoD benefits.
The problem is that the Tarkov devs were so greedy that they wanted to find a way to force all (or a majority) of EoD players to pay for an upgrade, instead of just putting out the Upgrade and accepting that only a portion would be interested. Their solution was blatant in raid advantages, locking core features behind an additional paywall, and ignoring the benefits they sold their most rabid supporters.
@@CatacombD I mean, I guess that makes sense. I don't play EFT myself, but I'm a pretty huge Melty Blood and Under Night In-Birth fan (somewhat niche anime fighting games made by French Bread). I bought both versions of Under Night In-Birth 1 and Melty Blood: Type Lumina twice (on Switch and PS4) for similar reasons as you: to get a fresh experience without losing my win/loss records, replays, and story playthroughs.
But the difference with those games is: 1 - that they're cheaper, and 2 - they didn't pull the rug out from under us. When going from one release of UNI to another, they gave it to the players for free if they already owned the previous version. I feel really bad for the EFT community; I don't play tactical shooters myself, but the game looked really fun if you like the genre, and I can't imagine how it feels to have your $150 made effectively useless because BSG didn't follow through on their promises.
@@Jarekx2007 It might not sound outrageous to them, or perhaps you, but it definitely is.
Truly boggles the mind, one might even say mindboggling
That transition brings back some old raywilliamjohnson = 3 vibes
My dumb friends wanted me to buy this game and play with them 8 months ago. They also "recommended" the edge of scam edition. Boy I'm glad that I never listened to them. I'm sick and tired of these companies where they just want to scam you and try justifying it while they're doing it.
The game is fire, you just gaslight yourself to not playing it because of some youtube videos. :D Congratulations.
@@ravioli-ravioli Enjoy getting scammed like a clown.
@@ravioli-raviolidoesnât matter how good a game is. If they are trying to pull some scummy shit itâs time to go somewhere else. I have thousands of hours and immediately uninstalled when I seen this. They could do a complete 180 and Iâd still not come back. I give people one chance and one chance only.
@@jerodfarmer165 That's you man and it's fine. I've only got about 1.5k hours and game still didn't get old for me, and the pve only make it better.
Same with me. Tried to tell me I'd be missing out if I didn't buy it. Now he's salty and doesn't play.
Itâs funny how this and Helldivers 2âs controversies are starkly different yet somewhat similar:
You have an unwanted thing being pushed onto the playerbase out of nowhere, you have documentation being changed during the controversy to save face, and you have groups of gamers from different backgrounds coming together to stick it to an utterly greedy and pathetic idea. And the fact this happened twice in a few weeks is baffling.
Of course, though, at least Arrowhead for the most part had the decency to stand with their players and make it vocal this wasnât their decision (props to the CEO for being genuinely good about taking responsibility for his mistakes and standing by the players). The Tarkov devs just kept digging themselves further and further into the hole until literally nobody stood by them.
Edit: Iâm aware of the fact Arrowhead knew 6 months in advance that PSN was going to be in the game. Iâm aware on the steam page in that small yellow section it says PSN is part of it. That doesnât change the fact that for three months it was optional and that Sonyâs own documentation stated PSN was optional and not required for the game, only for them to suddenly up and change it while this was happening. Thatâs why I and many others were frustrated by it.
Except the "pushed out of nowhere" bit is bs because arrowhead stated from the start that account linking would eventually be required in the future, but most people can't be bothered reading lmfao.
Still good that they backtracked this though, considering all the psn locked regions the game was sold in
Also, Arrowhead were not in charge of that decision. It was all Sony.
BSG have no one to blame but themselves.
Helldivers have reverted the change!
The "out of nowhere" part is exactly why I know a great portion of the PC playerbase just whine about shit until something happens.
They told you from day one you would have to make an account eventually.
@@AntiCensorshipGamer key word being âeventuallyâ thoughâŠthere was absolutely no communication as to when that would happen until it was already too late though. Thatâs why I said âout of nowhere.â
You know what's really messed up?
That's 250$ before taxes
I live in Germany and if I want to buy it it will cost me around 318⏠at the end with taxes
I donât think thatâs whatâs really messed up about this
Wow, you truly live in a socialist utopia
@@KoerskyIt was poorly phrased, but they clearly meant "what's even more messed up" as opposed to it being the only thing that's messed up. I agree with them though. $250 is bad enough, but $270 is just an extra slap in the face.
7:45 that gauntlet dark legacy bit was perfect, almost brought a tear to my eye
That comment from the person on Reddit about the team needing to release 1.0, is so on-point. Why even mess around with Arena, or any other game modes before releasing the actual game?! Shambolic
Fun fact, they opened themselves to litigation as there is proof of deceptive practices. You can't promise something on the premise that people spend their cash on it and removing the feature in the future just because it makes you more money. That's deception and would fall under fraud if I'm not mistaken
Most likely not, because EFT is early-access and "things are subject to change". It's the same exact reason a company can scam hundreds of thousands of dollars on a Kickstarter and never provide a functional product, even if that empty promise is what initially got people to give them money,.
@@spartan456 Doesn't matter if it's in early access as they promised to include future DLC in one version of the edition, enticing people to buy a product they know they'll have access to in the future. This can be proven that it's a documented promise, one that with the removal of that future DLC line they have likely opened themselves up to litigation as these aren't "things that are subject to change". This was a *promise* in the sale of their final DLC product to entice others to buy it, which they are now removing access to. *That* is false advertisement
Sadly enough, it being in "early access" does matter, same logic behind Fortnite never "truly" releasing, they can just jump ship at moment's notice, take the money, and legally no one can do anything against them because as long as it's in early access they are not responsible for keeping things afloat
@acidchronic2211 Nope, doesn't matter whatsoever. The game could literally never even fully release, despite loads of promises that you'll get a fully released game. Nothing can be done about it.
Early-access means an unfinished product, unfinished product means anything and everything is apt to change. They could change EFT to a tabletop game and no legal recourse could be taken.
I'm not at all saying this justifies what BSG has done. But it IS legal. Somewhere is a single line of text nobody read in some license agreement that makes it airtight. You agreed to it when you made an account and gave them money.
5:02 The thing that got me was that they tried to argue it's not even DLC, yet it's still $250. That's outrageous.
For real. Like that doesnât even matter, itâs more expensive than a used ps5 ffs đ
Ofc they are, people giving them money for a beta. Ofc they will ask more. Dev is always on business, if dev have no business then the game isnt for public when in beta.
These True believers is the most saddest situation where they got hooked and nothing can be done about it.
"hey kids! Wanna buy the same game... AGAIN?!?!" No, wtf are they on about
250 Bucks ??? Damn. If I had that much I Could Start a Business
Pay to win mechanics when you already got everyone to pay double the price for a video game that is in early accessâŠwild
One thing I love about the gaming community is that it in itself, is always so divisive. Game balancing, story, graphics vs fps, etc etc... it is an accomplishment for a company to be so anti-consumer that you got the whole gaming pissed and UNITED against YOU. Fr need a shake-up in the higher management.
250 Dollars for a MODE??? That shit better be taking my showers FOR ME.
It better be paying my taxes, mowing my lawn, and babysitting my (non-existent) kids!
"refers to additional content gamers download for video games AFTER THEIR INITIAL LAUNCH" Meaning that PVE is more like a base game feature/mode only accessible through higher versions
@@Hikari41618 that's even worse lol, if it's a base game feature it should be accessible to the basic edition owners.
It better be succing me
@@Hikari41618 Do you have some kind of mental deficiency?
this is just a foreshasowding documentary of what happened with helldivers lmao
"we don't call it DLC, we call it surprise scamming" lmao, that's worth a subscribe right there đ
Imagine BSG screaming about copyright when the Division pioneered the extraction shooter.
To be fair, it's easy to forget about The Division's Dark Zone when the game was kinda s**t đ
Escape From Tarkov has literally ripped off photos of Tom Hardy and Travis Fimmel to use as their in game graphics. Nikita is a hypocrite.
@@jonathanoriley8260 Of course the game was kinda s**t, like every game Ubisoft released in the last 10+ years.
I mean Division looks nothing like Tarkov, tho they in the same genre. That's why no one comparing it, unlike other games that came after (AB, L33T, the Cycle, etc...). These ones a copies, while Tarkov and Division is the originals.
Scams/shady deals always find a way to hit a new low each year. Itâs incredible and baffling.
Ubisoft still has the greedy trophy for considering rent your games never own idea!
If Day friggin Z is successfully roasting you, you absolutely should reconsider your life choices. lmao
I can now imagine Vader as a CEO of a company making a deal with the rebellion while Leia is angrily shouting at him, Han is sleeping a chair in chains and Luke is confused not understanding anything.
âI have altered the deal again.â
âOh for Godâs sake! Take that deal and shove it, Vader!â
I like how his horrible attempt at a Vader impersonation seems to get drunker with each iteration...
@@RipOffProductionsLLC
It would certainly explain why he kept altering the deal, that belligerent megalomaniac!
I absolutely love how Actman just drops AngryJoe here and there hahah.
Act man, do not forget that the so claimed "pve mode" is nothing but the current game we all play for years but with 2 mere features, co-op and consistent progression, it's ridiculous to make people pay so high for something that is basicly the game itself you paid for with very minor changes/features lol.
Shrinkflation is everywhere nowadays... Pay more for less. Its even in gaming now. The words "live service gaming" and "early access" are just red flags for me.
Inflation is an insidious thing. This stuff happens and folks dont know why
I just cant get hyped for games anymore like I used to. I feel like everything is a scam or moneygrab these days. I just wait until release and watch videos on the games. But in general I just stick to the older games I enjoy with friends like bf4, rdr2 for a bit now again, eurotruck sim etc. Still great games
+q
The moment I went to buy the game and saw that your inventory space was connected to how much money I was willing to spend I knew INSTANTLY....Do NOT support these devs...That's greed...
So...
Wow...
I'm so surprised...
That should've been the first red flag to anyone, who isn't an idiot. Most gamers are. Then some of them defend this bullshit, so they don't feel like an idiot, because they went and bought it.
You mean a hyper consooomed game eventually went full whale hunter and tried to bleed their customer base dry? Colour me shocked.
Bruh hope runs deep playing in the background was the icing on the cake LOL
the =3 transition sound was a cool throwback I wasn't prepared for.
We need, NEED to remind scummy gamedevs/publishers/corpos that they donât have any real power on the consumers and that theyâre next to nothing without them.
They have all the power until people actually learn to vote with their wallets, which they never will.
@@kuilu Helldivers proves you wrong. We voted with our wallets and we made our discontent clear and Sony backed off,á”á” ËĄá”á”˹ᔠᶠá”Êł âżá”Ê·.
@@OrionDawn15one of the few times people actually wised up because of how it essentially locked you out of an entire game for an entire group of people that play on a particular console. Greedy business practices and scams happen all too often in games and most times people donât care or only the vocal minority care. The average consumer doesnât know how to control themselves and takes whatever they can get instead of being more informed and voting with their wallets
@@ledzep1023 But it at least shows that consumers do have more power than they realize. If the Helldivers community can make Sony back off, at least temporarily. Any other community can their greedy companies back off.
"True believers" is a very polite way of saying "whales". How nice!
Itâs an offensive term since what if the âwhaleâ is a whale with their diets of Mountain Dew and Doritos. đ
The Catholic Church agrees đ
3:33 I think The Scarlet letter would be more⊠appropriate. Or do the Arthur episode parody where they call him a Knitter over and over again. Search it, itâs crazy.
And I thought Overwatch 2 was bad for cancelling their PVE. They didn't drink enough breast milk as THESE guys.
The Hell Divers 2 controversy is already over. Sony is reversing the update that would have required PSN account linking b/c of the overwhelming backlash
So is tarkovs...
They haven't removed it yet, they just claimed they will. It's not over UNTIL It's over!
ââ@@Gigakoopz It's not over until the multi-player only game is no longer dependent on a company server.
What I think isnât being talked about is how they couldâve saved themselves a lot of trouble, by
1. Not releasing the unheard edition for an outrageous price.
2.not just disregarding every EOD owner
3. What the fuck was the Tarkov 1.0 price going to be? 400$?!?
Very nice video. The comedic value was priceless. Thanks Battle State đ
Damn, greed never stops people from doing the dumbest sht.
'Pay us $250 and we'll not only let you directly violate the rules of the game but also take away the main reason to play a resource-based extraction shooter (the wipe + resource management).'
And make PvE behind a paywall when other games didn't need to do that.
Except it doesnât affect it anywhere near as much to get upset over
@@koreancowboy42 it requires even more servers to run, if everyone had access to it theyâd need to then double the server capacity which is an absurd ask.
BSG asked for one purchase 6 years ago, unprecedented in gaming..you sir are a reddit karen
â@@MachinedFace88ttv âAnd proceeded to squander money on the Arena thing. Mismanagement is not somehow the community's fault.
If you buy into this, you must like getting scammed I guess, idk. If so, it'll be your problem. You do you.
company: "buy the ultimate edition"
also company: "so this is no longer the ultimate edition, buy the new ultimate edition"
scam. repeat.
The good ol' days
EOD Clearly said "Limited Edition", not ultimate. And Nikita himself said we would get something better then EOD. better = costing more money
Nobody out-ultimates the edition
Another big thing is right before the unheard edition, they did a countdown to pressure people into buying eod.this was before they even announced the unheard edition