T.50 VLOG | EPISODE #19 | T.50 COLD WEATHER SIGN OFF TESTS, SWEDEN
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- čas přidán 10. 09. 2024
- With the T.50 extreme winter test programme complete, Dario Franchitti speaks to Gareth Howell, Chief Test Driver, about the car’s performance…and the cold.
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Seeing these rip through the snow in the opening gave me a huge smile. I know I will never own or even ride in one of these, but I'm just glad that they exist. No one else on the planet makes a car like this.
Say you pray one day you’ll have one. Be positive dude.
I agree 💯% 👍🏼😊
even if you got the money you cant have one.
@@dealerovski82 I can't imagine many if any owners are going to flip these, so yeah, a bit hard to get hold of.
T.50, like Legolas, walks gracefully and light of foot over the snow instead of blundering through it.
Nice photo of the team out in the cold at the end of the video. No short sleeves there.
I once had a job as a Vehicle Validation Engineer for cold weather testing. Most of the work done in this video sounds like it went into the powertrain calibration side of things. We used to have the powertrain guys come up with different platforms, but it was not a full vehicle validation. The vehicles I had to look after all had to do more mundane tests in addition to powertrain. The power train was to be sorted by this time. Doesn't help if they send me a car with a prototype touch screen as being the only way to adjust the HVAC and it fails. Can't send drivers out in -40C with no heater. Same goes for snow tires. If you sent a car with no snow tire, no testing.
The official temperatures for cold weather testing of road vehicles are down to -40C. A series of tests all must be done at 0C to -20C, -20C to -30C and -30C to -40C. Hitting -40C for enough time to test all of the cars on all of the tests is hard to pull off anywhere in the world these days so the same tests at -30.1C count as a pass for -40C. Any issues all must be corrected prior to the official vehicle launch.
I doubt that the customers of this car will even notice squeaky panels or squeaky suspension at -25C in a snowstorm (especially with that awesome V12 sound). They should be happy the car is even capable of going through it. Does not fit the "winter beater" category.
BTW, the defrost looks a little weak unless some of the shots were taken shortly after starting up. Long windshields are a bitch to do this efficiently.
Good to see the team testing the vehicles to these extremes. Granted, people who are privileged enough to obtain such a thing will never expose it to such extremes. But good to know the car is capable if someone is crazy enough to do so. 😉👍🏻
That engine note!! 😲👏🏻
There's a guy who owns a Ferrari Monza that rips it through the snow.
There's a song called "these boots are made for walkin'" . Could do a cover with this title "these cars are made for drivin'" 😉👌
Amazing vehicle. No batteries to charge. No severely impacted cold weather range. One of the best sounding engines ever. Truly a work of art.
Actually, most owners will let them sit in their garage collection and rot such that they need new batteries unless plugged into a battery tender, sad to say....
Amen 😍🇬🇧🏎
In case you're wondering. YES. That IS Gordon Murray sporting his majestic mustache and a "Never Mind The Bollocks" t-shirt, in the picture behind Dario. Circa 1980.
Ever since i started following this series. The T50 is the best car i have seen after the McLearen-F1,
It may be its is the Iteration to Gordon's design but boy the V12 done by Cossworth sounds absolute like a symphony. Just love the motor ringing along the stretches at that Good-Wood-Festival. I have to mention Dario's expertise on the car. But hats off to Gordan and Team in getting those safety systems on a car of this type. But Gordon has just nailed it perfectly. Probably the best ICE engine at end of the ICE engine era
Love these update videos. Brings along the rest of us who can't afford these fantastic machines.
I was expecting more snow being pulled up through the fan at the rear centre. Awesome colour combo
I believe the speed (and as such, suction power) of the fan is largely dictated by straight line speed, so it's not doing much in this scenario. This isn't the same as the McMurtry Speirling which has the fan going full speed all the time. Correct me if I'm wrong by all means, but I think this is how it works.
It won't. The fan actually withdraws air perpendicular to the diffuser. So everything sucked up is coming out the diffuser but nothing other than air goes through the fan.
I don’t doubt that there was some very serious testing done but the footage looks like a lot of “Hooning” 😂
I LOVE the simplicity of the design.
Truly beautiful things never have excessive complexity 😆
Those closing stills would make great desktop wallpaper...
This has been creeping in since the beginning of T-50, but I have the feeling this is going to be one of my favorite automobiles of all time.
The snow tire tech of today is amazing ,my fav roads are this type..snow & ice..long daily drives on road trips in winter..I drive often from NY to the state of Montana in winter in my old 1988 911 SC on Toyo or Michelin winter tires and the difference between 80's tires and today is just incredible..the level of confidence with the grip of these tires even in heavy snow conditions made me drive countryside roads I used to avoid..!!
That sound is to die for......literally!
Best Sounding Car Ever.❤
Good milestone, congratulations to the team.
Awesome to see another video from you guys! I was expecting a video from the USA tour...thought you did a track day at Laguna Seca? Can't wait for the next video!
We had -41 just over a month ago here in the great white north for a few days...wind chill was -69 C at 11km/hr wind...and at that temp the ice is so dry you can very clearly hear your tires sticking it the ice like glue almost. Think of sticking your tongue to a over frozen light post kind of freeze dried grip.
Even that, in the scheme of things, isn't so cold. In the Russian capital you can get minus 40°C in January - I've seen a Pagani and a few Ferraris struggling on Moscow's icy roads........ Some parts of Russia have temperatures below minus 70°C (without wind chill).
@@grantchallinor5263 🥶 Unreal man! I got stuck working at a Pulp mill when I was young and dumb for 3 days at -54C no wind. They shut the roads down so no one was allowed to leave the plant. I was stuck with one of the only jobs that was outside the plant on the chip pile bunker ice clump breaker... The steam coming off the fresh chipped logs would come down off the pile and go through you and remove any heat in your body. I can't imagine and I don't want to think about -70C.
@@sickjohnson In extreme cold wind makes all the difference...
There's a valley in Eastern Russia which gets minus 70°C temperatures, or even a bit colder - people live in villages there.
But even some cities in central and eastern Russia get winter temperatures of minus 40-50°C. It's normal and life goes on.
The Russians are used to it, trains, and transport run as normal, and on time too.
A few years ago, the Vladivostok region (on Russia's Pacific coast) got 4-5ft of snow (not snowdrifts - actual snowfall) but the next morning every single school and kindergarten was working and was opened on time.... I think it was in 2016 - incredible really.
@@grantchallinor5263 🤯That is crazy impressive!
Il bellissimo sound di questo capolavoro di Supercar sembra ritornare al passato quando Ferrari produceva quel fatidico sound bellissimo ed unico. Complimenti continuate così !!!
I believe this would be peak winter tyre testing :D
Must be an amazing experience, dashing thru the snow with 10-11.000 RPM!!!😎👌
my prayers has been answered
I rarely see a car in todays market that is worth a blank check.......this is one
Can you please give us the last picture with the two cars and the sun as wallpaper?
Just take a screenshot, or on pc print screen button.
Another big treat, probably the last time in snow, thanks for the chance to see it. GMA does WRC?
V-12 Normally Aspirated is a musical instrument too
Every time i hear the sound of this car it makes me chuckle!
since over 50 years i follow you .....now another masterpeace...your are the best...!
Damn, to drive these cars in this snow... What an experience it must be.
Must be nerve wracking as well...
I'm curious if the fan works in snowy conditions?
Looks nearly ready for customers. I wish GM keeps one for folks to rent for a few track laps since these will be complete unobtanium.
May I have some more T.50 content please (holding my porridge bowl) 😇
Looks ✨gorgeous✨ in that orange/red colour!
GMA has the best branding of any new auto manufacturer. Beautifully designed and thought logo. It's got substance in the same way Alfa Romeo's has, and managed it without the history and culture for inspiration.
@@gulben4389 Gordon Murray Automotive manufactures soon to be vehicles, they would fall into this category. Is there something you're not comprehending here?
@@gulben4389 I recommend doing a casual search on terms or expressions you're unfamiliar with before needlessly responding to a very straightforward compliment.
@@gulben4389 xoxo
Single most desirable car in the world.
I love it so much GMA T-50 and little T-33. I will dream about long time to drive in the trip
It's great that GMA are undergoing such comprehensive testing for T.50 but it's inevitable that 95% of all these cars will end up as part of an investment fund seeking to emulate the financial yields of the McLaren F1; that's suitably ironic for such a brilliantly designed and pure drivers car; it's ultimately a white elephant for the road. It also clearly illustrates the insanity of the modern world and how far we are away from the vision of Roger Chapman and indeed Gordon's own collection of brilliant lightweight drivers cars and motorbikes. We all know that Gordon gets it.
When you observe just how well the Alpne A110 was received and now the goodwill around the Lotus Emira (and with two halo cars now in place), surely GMA should be seriously assessing the viability of manufacturing an affordable lightweight performance roadcar for the rest of us that isn't a Rocket? Getting that right would represent a true technical achievement and a fitting tribute to the absolute genius and formula of Roger Chapman - his vision bought thrills to millions, not just the tiresome and increasingly dull super-rich customers that Pagani, Koenigsegg, Ferrari and McLaren are currently chasing round the block?
@ichiban GMD did produce a design for a sub £40k light weight roadster based on their patented iSteam chassis construction technology. I think the idea was that this would be licensed out to external manufacturers who would then produce the vehicle at scale. I remember hearing Murray mention this a few years back on a podcast with Chris Harris. But I’m guessing it wasn’t picked up by a manufacturer yet . Sadly. You see an engineer with the genius of Murray and it seems a crying shame his designs are only accessible to the hyper rich. The T50s are practically hand built and presumably they would not want to get into mass scale manufacture. I don’t really subscribe to the view that just because you have limited the production run of a vehicle to 100 that that automatically makes it more special. Look at the Mini Cooper, I know Murray thought very highly of issigonis, or the little Lotus Elan - these were brilliantly engineered light weight vehicles within reach of the average person. But I guess the buyers of T50 also want assurance that their investment will grow in value and limiting the numbers is one way of insuring that and making possible the kind of after sales relationship they way with customers. Unlike the F40. www.repairerdrivennews.com/2019/03/06/road-track-gordon-murray-lightweight-sports-car-base-price-below-53k/
Imagine being a test driver for GMA. What job have i chosen..
Hell yeah brother Nice BEAUTYFULL launch in the end ✈️✈️✈️✈️💎
Thanks a lot for the extended interview, it is the stuff I really enjoy watching! Curious to know what engine oil was used at -25*C in these engines.
Probably the same as every other car does, as pretty much all ordinary modern production cars (and many older ones) are regularly used in those countries where the temperature drops to below -30C regularly.
Who doesn't love wanging about in the snow! All season tyres for uk daily car for the win! And you get more tread so they last longer so worth getting the premium tyre. Did over 35k miles on Michelin Cross climate and still plenty of tread left.
Seems fun to test on flat roads in the snow. However, how about in the Alps?
Wow 👍🏻
Ha, I love how you can check the MOT status online using the reg. It's not had it's first MOT yet, registered 1st March 2022 ha! I can't wait for road tests of this car.
Wowwww amazing
What a journey...
Turn the fan all the way up make it shoot out sideways and got a good snowblower
I know I've said this before but that car sounds incredible. Also, it must be as cold as balls out there... but how much fun does that look...?!
Eargasm!
I’m intrigued to know if the fan is actually functioning yet. I know it wasn’t at Goodwood last year. None of the videos have focused on that.
Can’t wait for the Henry Catchpole and Harry Metcalfe reviews of this car.
Also excited to see what the owners manual will look like. Will it be anything approaching the beauty of the F1 manual with hand drawn illustrations by Mark Roberts.
@@james2450 Im looking forward to the Doug DeMuro review. He did in fact show us the owners manual of the McLaren F1.
Yep that was me in Michigan last week
Um, the defroster on the windshield and the de-mister on the side windows did not look like they were really doing the job. Americans transitioning from their Ford F-150 pickups will be expecting perfection (spoiled, yes, I know).
When I turn on the Auto-generated Closed Captions, when the sound track is just the T.50's engine, it says (Music). I totally agree! 🙂
Oh mama ❤
Nice love that sound
Magical...please release some raw on-board footage of this driving. PLEEEEASEEE
world.....a supercar cant drive on snow...
gordan murray... HOLD MY JUICE... (beer if applicable) 😂😂😂😂😂😂
A real beauty :)
Unless I hit the lottery I’ll never own one of these, let alone drive one, sit in one (or ever even see one), but I do love knowing that they exist, and that someone was “crazy” enough to build them.
I hope the “EV Future” being foisted upon us never comes to be, because cars like this will be what we lose, and all we’ll be left with is silent, soulless boxes with wheels.
I would have loved to see the test drivers coming out of the house first thing in the morning and scraping the ice of the windscreens of these cars in the manner of the character Jerry in the film _Fargo_ .
-25C doesn’t get worse than that
*Laughs in Winnipeg*
Can't wait to hear the aftermarket exhaust on one of these. They sound muffled, just like stock carrera gt does. You hear a great engine, but it roars at you through a pillow
Beast
Normally when driving and your say is lit up like a Christmas Tree (1:41) it’s time to pull over and call the RACV but apparently one can just ignore everything and keep driving with no fear of catastrophe. 😂😂
A tough job, but someone's got to do it 😁.
Amazing! Wow! What this video proves is that if driven in the snow, a T50 can scare the test driver sh1tless.
That engine sounds greeeeat. I want one, i wonder if my misses would mind me selling the house so i can put a deposit down.
"Down to -25. Can't get much more extreme than the north or south pole"
Meanwhile, south of the Arctic circle in alberta, -40 is common winter weather
Using Michelin tyres so why are Continental involved for the ESP stuff? Is it a different from the tyre company?
Continental is a huge automotive company, dealing with a lot more than just tires. I'm guessing GMA contracted them to use their esp system
What a sound!
That's corvette e-ray territory
I wonder what does local people thought when they saw those two cars flying past them.
I see you got a number plate. We don't pay a crazy road tax here in the USA, so I just assumed Swedish petrolheads would engage in some illegal rallying away from paved roads. At least you weren't hounded by Greta and her goons in a pack of Teslas. Maybe she prefers warmer climates after all. Fantastic car
🎶🎶🎶🎶🥶😍
How does the snow effect the downforce? I know it's not going to shoot out snow from the back but it must at least be collecting on the airtunnel opening
I could’ve helped out, being close by and all :)
From the heat of the desert to the cold of the arctic. Next mode? Storage.
Terrible job but someone has to do it
does Dario comment on these videos?
How many cars has jay Leno bought?
Working with Continental, but you said you used Michelin snow tyres?
Yes thats right. Tyres are from Michelin, and the ESC electronic stability control is from Continental. They do much more than just tyres.
But that’s a bit like saying thank you for your help, but your tyres aren’t good enough.
Shouldve put some narrow ice tires and skidded on a lake
Best car on the planet?
On the paper yes! Nothing comes close - in the ultimate drivers car category.
I did not see snow spray after the fan... so I presume that part is not operational yet? Wonder why that is. Exciting nonetheless
There's a bunch of filters and a 90 degrees turn in the ducting. Little rocks won't go through it, so likely very very little snow would either
Despite that these cars are tested in cold conditions, I bet not a single production version will never ever see those conditions, rather sit in temp controlled garages and warm sunny weather when they are trailered to car shows.
I want to travel in this car...I want autobahn runs...give it to the guys at AutoTopNL to see Max making a review 😎
Owners will be taking this at 220 mph on the Autobahn anyways. Just like that owner of the McLaren F1
deep snow? what is there is nothing, mammoth mountain ca received 21ft in 22 days....
Sounds like my gf who is on the brink but frustratingly can't quite get there
I'll bet anything Jay Leno has already dropped his deposit on one! I cannot wait until it shows up in his garage and on Jay Leno's Garage!!
Fan in the snow?
Still no high speed testing with the fan in use, which is what this car was designed for?!!
I'd probably have big skids too driving in those conditions with that much power and the cost of the vehicle.
When are they on sale?
@@longines8973 I don't sell them.
I just put them in the wash.
I like What i see 😀
Condensation issues? Engine heat can cold weather. Imagine x-country skiing in the woods and you suddenly hear that v12 scream
Still testing? Still no delivery to customers?
Coming end of Q1 to beginning of Q2
Why would anybody drive a multimillion dollar sports car in the snow? Crazy.
Should of just stayed in the u.k its probably colder at the moment
Controversial opinion. I'm not a fan of the exhaust note, it sounds tiny and hollow to me.
I , each day look forward to new videos released by GMA !! I actually get bummed when these videos aren't released more often !! Granted, that's just the spoiled brat that's addicted to anything released by the most incredible team and car designer to walk this planet....
Anyone who can afford this BETTER have the sense to rather drive the 4x4 on snow days.
This is what NO electric car will EVER manage to achieve in my opinion... No matter what the horsepower or zero to 60.... This is a truelly ASPIRATIONAL CONSTRUCT.... This living, breathing, screaming and adrenaline-on-tap machine is something that will, for generations to come, motivate people and young kids to work harder, smarter and without let up, to achieve the honor of calling one of them your own. This is not a dream car.... This is a car that will turn dreams into reality by any means necessary.... A work of pure genius, built by a NO-Compromise attitude by people that fully understood what they are building..... A car that we petrolheads will FOREVER BE ABLE to use as a TOP TRUMP to justify the existence of gasoline engined cars. And you know what.... There will never be somebody so into EPower That they can argue otherwise without looking like the biggest fool in the room. Thank you Gordon Murray, Cosworth and every single person working tirelessly to create this project.
Gordon, as a fellow South African born person... I will make it a priority that you will be immortalized in some form of another somewhere in SA... Even if it wasnt your home for long.... Knowing that your love for building and racing lightweight cars started here.... Will always give me a sense of pride and it makes all your unbelievable career milestones that much sweeter