Trouba Center of Attention After Reports he Nixed a Trade to Detroit
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- čas přidán 1. 07. 2024
- The media and fans are not happy with Trouba reportedly not being willing to approve a trade yesterday.
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I don't get what the problem is. He has the clause and the choice. He doesn't even need a good reason why he doesn't want to go to a team that is on his list. You can be mad at the team because they signed the deal. But not at the player.
Pretty much, the problem is we tend to speak our mind without really thinking about the situation to form a cohesive argument. And that is especially true for many sports fans.
@@golliday917 exactly this. Direct your frustrations to NYR management
@@golliday917 as a wings fan, if he doesn't want to be there so be it
But you CAN be mad at him for (supposedly) saying he won't report to the other 16 teams either.
@@Viridel648 can u elaborate ?
Players should always do what's best for themselves, even if it could be considered "selfish", because teams are always going to do what's best for themselves too. Look at how Vegas let Marchessault walk or how Tampa let Stamkos walk. This is a business and everyone should be looking out for themselves.
people call stamkos selfish but when the team is trading and signing guentzel to a higher AVV and then giving hedman EXACTLY what stamkos got, i wouldnt say its stamkos being selfish, tampa could easily afford him
Spot on. Its a Business and ugly situations happen all the time. Its happened here in St Louis 3 years after winning the Cup. The $$$$$ win every time.
Yeah but if trouba stays, he can NOT remain the captain after hurting the team like that
Many teams constantly do NOT do what us best for themselves. I can give endless examples.
That the teams might have thought those moves were best for themselves does not make my point not true.
@@Ratzy1614 Exactly. Anyone calling Stamkos 'selfish' should call BriseBois a liar for saying he wanted Stamkos to stay (when in reality he had low-balled him with a $3 million a year contract offer and wouldn't budge on that number). And the report was that Stamkos only wanted $4 - 5 million a year...
Stamkos isn't any more selfish than any other athlete making millions a year to play a sport- he's just also not a spineless 'company man' who would take less than 50% of his market value to stay with a team that clearly didn't value him (his leadership, his 80+ points, his 40+ goals, any of it).
I 100% don't like Trouba as a player but the dude negotiated his contract with his wife and family as a primary concern. As much as i like to hate on him, not a single ounce of blame should fall on him and good for him for making his wife's career a priority too. He might be a shit head on the ice, but any player or man that puts his family first should not be faulted for it.
Should've negioated a full NMC instead of a 16 team no trade list then if he doesn't want to go to the other 15 teams
His wife has 1 year left of residency and he's going to Detroit for 2 years. Let's be real and I say this as a Rangers fan who has watched his entire tenure here: He fleeced this team with his $56 million dollar contract. He got generational wealth from Jeff Gorton and you're telling me he can't stay away from his wife for 1 year?
This isn't even factoring in his horrific play on ice. He got a NTC, captaincy, and is playing for an organization that is notorious for giving out bad contracts and playing them out until it's way too late. Despite all that, he's still being outted by Drury. Does that not demonstrate how bad he is as a player? He's being paid 8 million dollars to be the worst d-man on the team and I'd say our 7th d-guy is even better than him.
There are plenty of worse situations he could be in. Good for him for thinking about his wife, but his entire stay here has only set back the team. His contract is part of the reason why this team never resigned Buch, and 3-4 years later, this team is STILL looking for a RW to replace him. If a worker doesn't do his work and constantly pushes back the team because of his incompetency, the company has the right to fire said worker regardless of their personal situation. Don't even get me started with how most of our postseason runs ended because of him.
thank you
@@justjohnny420 Exactly. He could have put his family first by taking 6 or 7 million for a full NMC instead. It's too late to take the high road on that now.
@@kaz7690 not his fault he's overpayed. i disagree with most of your statements
This reminds me of the Krug situation in St Louis. 😢
Ugh, don't remind me. What an albatross
Ouch. Yes it does. I’m a 70 year old lifelong Blues fan. I don’t know what disease got into Douggie Harmstrong’s head after our epic Stanley Cup win. Seems like every lever he’s pulled afterwards was the wrong one!! (I’ll give Douggie a pass on 2 problems: Bouwmeester’s career ending heart attack and near death in Anaheim and Carl “Boom Boom” Gunnarsson’s career ending injury. Obviously not his fault). But he’s made a bunch of scared or dumb moves since 2019. Did he try to keep up with Brett Hull and drink too much Bud Light in the victory parade and pickle his brain??? Douggie, c’mon. Nobody can out drink Hullie!!! 😂
@OldRustySteele getting Buch back is a plus, I also really like picking up Joseph. Though the gamble is Dvorsky, Snuggerund, Bolduc, Lienstein, and Jiricek. If they pan out it's incredible young depth. If not, Steen goes into a rebuild.
I wasn't happy Krug nixed the deal in place for him, but it was his choice to make! Don't want to give the player that
From all Detroit-fans, thank you Mr. Trouba
We don't need or want anyone who doesn't want to be here. Just wish we didn't have to lose Ghost, I was ok with them letting Walman walk, even though I like him as a Player.
Hmm wonder why he picked a nurse for a wife 😂
@@DaveTucker-yu6rxshes a doctor
He can stay.
I agree he has the right to use the NTC the team signed. Wife in mind or not. I dont like the threat to not report if he is traded to a team not on the list. If NY has to honor their side you need to honor yours. That becomes selfish. Should have had a full NMC signed then.
But we don't know if he really did that, it's all just rumors floating around and as always people go to "where's smoke there's fire" so it's assumed to be true anyway.
you do realize the issue there is the Rangers trying to keep cutting deals with teams *not* on the list right?lol
detroit was coincidentally put on the list only after a trade was being worked on. hmmmm.
@@HDreamerif it wasnt true, the Rangers would have traded him by now. retaining a big part of his salary would have garnered interest from some teams NOT on his list. smoke is fire.
Rangers can cut him if they don't want him. He can cut the team he's traded to if he wants.
Saying no to a team on the no trade list is cool. Saying I will not report to any team I am traded to on the other hand, if true is a whole other issue!
This👆
It's de facto a breach of contract.
Given a shrewd lawyer and enough of a mean spirit, the rangers could turn this against him, for his contract to be terminated and him being banned from the league!
Career = over (if they wanted to sent a message!)
And frankly, given the guy he is, I would not shed a single tear for him!
@PyrrhoVonHyperborea being banned from the league is the worst scenario of worst scenarios. More likely he's fined, suspended or held without pay, perhaps a mix of those. Besides who knows if these rumors have any weight.
issue being he put the team on the no trade list after slow walking his trade to monday.
@@PyrrhoVonHyperborea He'd have to get traded and not report to try a pursue anything in terms of breach of contract. Won't have anything to do with the Rangers at that point.
not wanting to damage your wife’s career isn’t selfish at all, it takes so many years in med school and doing residency and bro doesn’t want to mess up her career she’s worked hard for.
Bro is gone for half the year anyway. She stays in NY , her career is pristine. Just trade him to one of the teams he listed and allow him to make the next move. NY didn't sign his wife after all.
@@yxada1998very agreed
@@yxada1998 Is NY far from Detroit?
@yxada1998 lmao nyr didn't sign his wife lmao but you are right
@@MetalCharlo10 hr drive.
Detroit dodged a bullet. What else does Stevie have up his sleeve? This ain’t it.
Bad bo...
For Detroit(and the other 14 team),it's his right.
BUT... IF rumour are true and he refuse to go to the other 16 team,this should be ground of contract termination.
Yup, cancel the contract and see if anyone else signs him for 8 mil aav
Pretty sure Trouba doesn't have to explicitly say he won't report. No other team wants to touch this situation as it currently stands, fr.
Nix trouba? Hes a great d man. Hardly a smart idea.
So many bad contracts for defensemen in the last 10 years. Trouba, Nurse, Jones, Faulk.
I don’t blame Trouba, but being traded is the danger you inherit by wearing the Rangers C lol
Yep. Kisio, Leetch, Callahan, McDonagh. That’s just in my lifetime 😂
Breathing a sigh of relief, was not excited for trouba to Detroit
I'm wondering if the Walman deal was part of that whole situation. Would be a bummer if we moved him for nada.
I was. Easy upgrade on the right side over Perry and Holl.
it was the Yzerplan to have him tho
Edvinson and Wallinder are getting called up. Possibly Johanson also but I don't expect it. Those two young d-men puts somebody out of the lineup. Walman and a second or Holl and a first; who do you trade?
I was
This contract was never good
Fans, trouba, rangers brass, media have handled this poorly
Brass should’ve never signed the deal and can’t deal him to Detroit that’s trouba’s right
Fans have been shitting on trouba’s wife and that’s awful
Larry brooks for even bringing up her and her residency is just ridiculous
Trouba should not be telling teams that the rangers can trade him he won’t report that’s just not how nhl transitions work and that is selfish imo bc if trouba has right to decline a trade to 15 teams Drury has a right to trade him to the other teams
As to your last part, so far they are just rumors. I'm sure he has planned this and if he was completely against getting traded, he would of gotten a full no trade clause.
A 30 year old man worth tens of millions is worried how his wife and kid will do if he has to work two hours away? Wonder if I could have done the same when I was deploying to Iraq for months/years at a time?
Dude needs to sack up.
Watch, the Rangers win it all next year. Let's go RANGERS!!!
Ok, first of Brooks is a Fuccken clown, look how Torts tore into him and embarrassed him
@americanadreaming well, that's one of the perks of his job. And while I disagree with your sentiment, thanks for serving in the military. I have family in the service, and am well aware of the sacrifices all of you make.
Jason Spezza threatened retirement so nobody would claim him off the leafs a few years ago, that's gotta be the most recent player refusing to report off waivers
No issue with him refusing to waive a NTC, that’s his right based on his contract. I guess refusing to report if traded is also his choice if he wants to get suspended and forfeit his salary. However, I also don’t have a ton of sympathy for him or his wife because people who make far less money (military families, spouses of people fighting wildfires, etc) deal with being apart for stretches of time due to their work without nearly as many resources to get through it. Even if it’s not ideal, I’m sure Trouba would be able to hire a nanny and make it work for a couple of years.
You omited the fact that Trouba is from Detroit . That is probably the rub here - the rangers where trying to make it more ammeniable to him , so he put Detroit on his no trade list . He has a lot of friends on the red wings
Of all of the teams that would be on his no-trade list, I would not expect Detroit to be on that list because he is Michigan-born, so I understand why he wouldn't want to leave New York however, I figured Detroit would be the best case scenario.
He doesn’t want to leave his wife it’s legit that simple
It’s not about what team it’s about his wife
@@Deenaziamazinjg14
It's not "legit" to breach contract by saying he would not report, even when eligible to he traded [to any team not on his list; i.e. something other than detroit!]
@dylan
Think about it strategically:
Half the league is on his list.
Which teams do you want on there?
Teams that you would not get traded to, anyway? Or those most likely to be a target?
It’s certainly reasonable not to want your family to have to live in the greater Detroit area if you’re rich enough to choose where you work and they live.
I don’t like it, but I can see his logic. He won’t make his family live or work in a shit hole. I’m sure Chicago is on the list too, so save the chatter, pheasants.
The problem was the Rangers went to him before the draft and said they had two trades worked out for him, one to Toronto the other to Detroit. They couldn’t trade him until noon on July 1st after he submitted his 15 team list. Not wanting to go he placed those two teams on his list therefore cancelling any deals in place. I understand him wanting to stay to be with his wife, but as a pro athlete when your NMC expires you have no choice but to go where they send you. There is more to this story than what we have read on the surface. I’m sure he’ll be either traded to a team close by ( Isles, Devils) so he can stay at home, or depending on how things go work it out to play one last year with the Rangers then move on. I doubt a buyout is on the table.
Dr. Randy Gregg. Loved hearing his name come up and recall announcers calling him Doctor Randy Gregg in game back in the day!
As a Ranger fan, I disliked Trouba before it was cool.
Why anybody would trade for trouba without also getting a kings ransom in return from the rangers is beyond me
There's also a chance that these rumors came out and other players spoke up not wanting him to be traded either. It's one thing to not resign a guy like stammer, but to trade a captain with term left, that obviously has the support of his teammates or else he wouldnt of been named captain two years ago, could cause more issues in the room between management and players after the fact.
Will be an interesting storyline over the summer.
Unless the Rangers were retaining a bunch of salary, detroit dodged a bullet.. 8 mil is way too much for Trouba
Totally agree with what you said. Many would do the same thing in this situation. Everything is a rumor until we either hear from Trouba or the team. Most fans are just never happy.
No matter what happens, I am definitely not biased against Trouba and the Rangers and hoping for more more more drama because that would be wrong. 🍿🍿🍿
It's in his contract! The NYR have to honor it.
Vegas didn't.
@@ST-TV ... and paid for it
Tell that to Goodrow.
I’m not a Rangers fan, far from it, but if he’s saying he’d refuse to report if he were traded to a team not on his list then he should take a massive pay cut or have his contract voided if I’m the Rangers brass. You wanna force our hand? We’ll force yours and save money in the process cause that was the whole reason they’re trying to move him is to get his albatross of a deal off their books and clear up 5 mil in cap space so it’d be fair for him to take 3 mil for this year after they void his contract. I understand his reasons but this is a business. I hope it doesn’t happen that way cause I want New York to be as bad as possible cause we play them often but that would be the most fair outcome to New York if he’s kaiboshing every potential deal.
The Oilers will trade a Dman for him...
nope Nurse is way better
@Slipings 2 years of Trouba at 8M
or 6 more years of Nurse at 9.25M...
As an Oilers fan... I'd do this trade without hesitation.
Even peak Nurse isn't worth $9.25M
And... ONLY McD should be making more than Leon. Nurse's contract was a Leaf move.
@@FC-tq1yj Trouba is much more of a liability
@Slipings he doesn't have to play... he can be the 7th... Edmonton gains $1.25 in Cap... and after two more season... $8M more in Cap Space.
@@FC-tq1yj fair however no way nurse would agree to that
I was just talking with my local fish vendor about the potential of a Trouba trade to the Wings. Great timing.
Awesome that Yzerman gave Walman (and a pick) to the Sharks for nothing to clear cap space in anticipation of this move....
exactly, this guy screwed us over still, and we need defense
I have zero issue with him enforcing his no trade clause. Although it is a little ridiculous trying to stop any trade if he has a limited no trade clause.
In all honesty depending on what teams are on his list, he would be better off accepting a trade to a team like Detroit where number 1 they wanted him & number 2 is geographically not that far from NY.
As someone who works in a hospital and is familiar with what exactly is involved in a residency program you really don't have much time for a personal life. So I can understand him wanting to maximize the time he does have with his wife. Although there is a giant flaw in that logic when it comes to blocking a trade. First if they trade him to a west coast team it becomes way harder to spend time with each other on either person's off day. Second this is the offseason for the NHL, and depending on what type of Residency she is involved in it should come to end around the end of the next regular season to start of the Finals. So really your only talking about 6-7 months not a full year of managing how you spend time together. Third once the regular season starts his time is dictated by the NHL schedule. I am sure her residency program is not going to bend over backwards to accommodate & coordinate with his playing schedule so control over that isn't going to change regardless of the team he is on. Fourth this relates directly to Detroit their ownership is dedicated to taking care of their players, so I would hope he would have at least been receptive to hearing what they have to say. He might be surprised to find how the ownership has deep ties & relationships with the medical community. Plus Michigan has more top 500 hospitals than NY .
For whatever it is or what happens, Trouba won’t be a Ranger before next season start.
Trouba signed this contract before Covid and before his wife got pregnant. Both of those things could have caused the delay in her residency finishing and who could have known about the impending global pandemic then.
Part of why we got him in the first place was because he wanted to move to the states in part so his wife could do this. Where better than NYC could she have done it? It has some of the best medical centers in the world. We probably got a better deal from Winnipeg than we should have because of NYC being a draw and he used his leverage to get here. I don’t blame him for trying to use his leverage now to stay. The only way I’d blame him is if he refuses to go to the other 16 teams. The same way you couldn’t have predicted Covid is the same reason you have to go if a trade happens. Life is full of unexpected things. 6-9 months of long distance where half your games were already going to be on the road anyway is not the end of the world in an 80ish year life span.
The only other way I can see this being palatable for both parties with him staying is for him to “not recover well” from the broken ankle he was supposedly playing on at the end of the year and go on LTIR. Rangers get the cap space they are desperate for and he doesn’t have to leave for a year.
They only got him because of his wife, they had very little options when the contract came up I think. Rangers overpaid when they didn't really need to, he didn't have much options then and I guess when the trade was announced she probably she have been part of it so you guys knew what was up.
COVID messed up the timeline completely. If not for that, his wife's residency would have been finished by now.
FUN FACT- There are hospitals in every single hockey town on Planet Earth 🌏
Right but if she started medical school and her residency at a NY based university and hospital, those credits won’t necessarily transfer to another state (or country). Also if you were in school at Harvard and someone said “yeah but there are colleges in Utah too” how would you respond?
I agree that, if I were in their shoes, as her I would finish my schooling and as him I would honor my contract. If that means less than a year of a long distance relationship so be it. I don’t think “just go to another hospital” is the right argument tho
Players need to negotiate for themselves like this more often. Good for Trouba and good for the worker.
As a Wings Fan, I'm good that he doesn't want to come to us. We don't need, or want anyone who doesn't want to be here. Let's play the Talented youngsters that we would've had to give up in order to get him here. We'll be fine. We've improved every year of the Yzerplan, and I think with a few Teams taking a step back, that we will be a Playoff Team this upcoming season. Yzerman wanted to build from within anyway, so let's see what we have.
Trouba could go to the Islanders or Devils without having to uproot his family
Those 2 teams are definitely on his no trade list. He would not want to be traded to a rival
Islanders fan here. We don't want him.
Neither ISL and DEV are on his NO Trade LIST, but both of those teams are over the cap. His No Trade List has teams that HAVE the money. Detroit was NOT on his list, and he managed to talk himself out of that and Detroit moved on.
NYR dug themselves a hole with Trouba, and to make it worse, not 1 of the big-time free agents decided to sign here. It's about to be another disappointing season.
If this was Yzerman's big move post Walman trade then more conversations need to be had about his vision for the Red Wings and whether that is conducive to winning.
Yeah signing Holl and now trying to get Trouba lol
thev red wings window is in 3ish years which is after troubas contract expires, yzerman, was likely trying to perreault/othmann in a deal with NYR to help for that window, and in order to do so without giving up anything they obv had to take on troubs
I'd LOVE to have Truba on my team but not for anywhere near that salary
Greatest elbow of all time
Defensive liability aside from the big hits, especially when he misses
Will be funny when his own team boos him 😂 also, they can simply not play him...how bad will Detroit look then Jacob? 🤔
There is the other issue though that has been rumored, which is if Trouba actually says I will not report to a team you trade me to, the Rangers will waive him and have him in the minors to begin the season which I feel like if it comes to that we enter the potential of them exercising a contract termination but we shall see.
I don't think he gets traded.
Larry Brooks pretty much stirred this entire story. My disrespect towards him is through the roof. Am I displeased with Trouba, yes. Do I want him out of town, kinda. Does he deserve the intense vitriol he’s getting online primarily from Ranger fans? Absolutely not.
Larry Brooks made Dan Boyle my hero. God Bless Dan Boyle. The NYR - and their fans- should have listened to him 8 years ago. I am almost to the point with the Rangers- and their fans- to say "Keep Trouba- trade everyone else who have zero character".
i just read Brooks article. what did he say that stirred a story? he claims he has Ranger team sources who informed him of the potential trade to Detroit. as long as he and his source are truthful, than Brooks was only doing his job as a media member. reporting on news from the team he covers
you had me til Randy Greg turned around the canucks 🤣
I have respect for players who take their family's needs into consideration in how they conduct their hockey careers! It has to be tough on a family when the father travels a lot. It's part of the territory with being a professional hockey player but a couple can discuss it in advance and make decisions with that in mind.
At least the Rangers are trying to move on from Trouba. LGR!!!
Move on from him? They are the dummies who offered up that stupid contract, the whole situation is their fault and always been their fault.
@@janetd5121 That's a Jeff Gorton contract, not Drury's. This has never been a Drury contract.
@@janetd5121 I'm not saying its not their fault and Trouba has every right to deny a trade. As a Rangers fan, I'm just pleased to see them trying to move on from his contract. I like Trouba, just not at his current price tag of 8 million per year.
@@janetd5121different gm
@@thejoulesthief6841
You’re right it was Gorton. Drury is the guy who traded Buchnevich away for Sammy **** Blais, and has spent 6 draft picks in the last 3+ years trying to replace him. Drury ain’t much better pal 😂
Ive no issues with him using his mntc thats his right and he seems to be doing it for a more than fair reason BUT! If hes threatening not to report that should be grounds for dismisal not buy out as its him not standing by the contract
Ok so let's say he doesn't leave. They waive him, nobody picks him up. Can the Rangers put him on LTIR for the entire season and gain his 8mill?
That was a common sense evaluation of the situation Shannon.
Just to clarify Shannon, his wife can’t leave her hospital, and she didn’t likely have her residency get extended she probably got into a fellowship program in nyc. In the US, residency contracts are binding and you get blacklisted completely from even applying to programs if you reneg on a contract you signed.
So anyone can just say nah I'm not going to play for anyone and never have to worry about a NTC?
Another point to bring up is whether or not he has the Isles and Devils on that NMC. He would have a bit of a longer commute but wouldn't have to move. That is regardless of whether either team would actually trade for him.
Trouba was never worth this contact...
Ask Dadonov, that was almost as good as Anaheim’s tweet of “are you sure” 😂😂
Drury was not able to move Trouba's contract and Rangers most likely miss out on Stamkos or Marsessault..
As a Jets fan, I know how you feel.
Great take bro. i sincerely appreciate the detailed information and un-opinionated breakdown.
Is that a picture of Gary Betteman behind you?..Lol
Didn't the NHL just give Trouba a leadership award? Ooops! That's taking one for the team. lol
Mark Messier solely gives out the leadership award lol
Seeing the way fellow fans are tearing into him and his wife is wild. Be frustrated that they can move him, but making it a personal attack on him is classless.
Regardless of what comes out, that locker-room will be wondering who's next. (Same with Tampa.)
The way I'm seeing this is when the player is playing well fan bases get into an uproar if they don't get resigned, but the moment they start to decline any sense of "loyalty" shifts away from the team needing to be loyal to the player to the player needing to be loyal to the franchise. "Loyalty" in that respect goes both ways. You can't expect that when it disproportionately benefits one party more than another.
Truba does not suck aggressive player rangers need more of him.
Don’t like Trouba, but this man signed a contract that kept his family life stable, nothing wrong with that at all, good on him for sticking to that.
"People are mad because he apparently negotiated the contract with his wife in mind," wow how DARE he care about the woman he married! How selfish of him not to put his career over his wife's!...Anyone with that take can be immediately discarded as a 🤡. The Rangers signed the contract with Trouba, it's on them to honour it. If they didn't want to take the risk of having him for 8 years, they shouldn't have signed him to an 8 year contract.
The NMC changed to a M-NTC yesterday. The entire reason he's bringing his wife's career up is because she was supposed to finish her residency in NYC at the same time his NMC finished up. Her residency got pushed back one additional year so they knew this would be a possibility that he could get traded.
Well he is paid more than 99% of the population. If he doesn’t report he won’t be paid.
See, I hadn’t heard that Detroit was on his no move list, I heard he said he wouldn’t report even though they were eligible for him to be traded to them.
There really needs to be some sort of performance clause.
You’re telling me a doctor actually played in the NHL?…. Was his first name Doctor?…:
Huh. Never thought I'd be on Trouba's side on anything. But here I am.
It’s quite concerning how much of the NYR fanbase is getting blinded by the notion that “Trouba is the reason they didn’t win the cup”- sure they lost in ECF, which btw were mostly tight games, but that also means he captained them to that point. He’s blocking and hitting a crazy amount, he’s a warrior and leader, one of the anchors of the team.
He’s not a 8mil/yr player, and I understand why the team wants to trade him, but the amount of personal hate against Trouba, who’s just exercising his rights for valid reasons, is way too much.
If Trouba would focus on positional defense first rather than the monster hit first, he would be a much better player. He also played hurt and I am sure there were lingering issues with the injury as well.
this is society today.
I think you should have to have your no trade list posted at all times so this kinda stuff can’t happen where players know the trades ahead of time to then add that team to their list when they might not have been on it before.
It is "at all times". It happened to "start" right now, so he waited until last minute to come up with the list. And he came up with teams that HAVE the money to take him.
@@AW33COM bad move by the Rangers not to keep it extremely hush hush then. Although maybe not, maybe it was as a courtesy. Idk. I’m glad it didn’t go through, as a Wings fan, but feel bad for Rangers fans who want him gone.
As a Red Wings fan I am happy with this. I also feel player's contract clauses should be honoured.
Yep. Negotiations are between two parties.
I really don’t see a problem with the fact he could’ve vetoed a deal to Detroit. If they are on his list, that’s well within his rights in regards to the contract he negotiated.
If he’s telling teams he won’t report to dissuade them from trading for him, that’s another thing and I see that as a big problem. You can’t use threats to turn a modified no trade clause into a full no movement clause.
Truba should have put a full NMC in his contract then.
He did, but the residency got extended more than originally planned. Did you watch the whole video?
@@BobBigWheels - And that's the Rangers fault or responsibility how?
Yeah but the 15 team deal goes into effect now.
@@Viridel648 it's not the Rangers fault, but it's also not Trouba's fault. Covid forced this. the Rangers were well aware he was unwilling to move until after the residency, and why years 2-5 were NMC, then NTC after that.
@@jeffn5675 -- Indeed, his now-wife would not have sought to match into a NYC-area hospital if not for the NMC. But then a 2021 match became a 2022 match.
I didn't realize you could just... not show up
I think they will make doing buy outs easier in the next CBA. More similar to MLB where you can stretch it out further
I know it's petty, but I derive so much satisfaction from this. For the first time in this iteration of the Rangers, players aren't bending over backwards to make everything work out perfectly for them. Some small justice in the idea that one of the players that basically forced himself onto the team now won't leave the millisecond it's convenient for the Rangers. My heart aches for them.
Spezza did the same thing a couple of years ago with the Leafs when they put him on waivers. Said he would retire if claimed.
I dont understand fans taking issue with players having NTC. They’re human beings at the end of the day with lives outside of hockey
New york shouldnt have discussed the trade until july 1 when troubas no move became a modified.
The rumors of the trade came out, giving trouba time to put detroit on the list to nix it.
Gaurenteed had the trade been discussed after trouba submitted his list, detroit would not have been on the list.
Rangers jumped the gun.
A man doing what he believes is best for his family is always commendable and I don’t blame him for not wanting to move. Sounds like he and his wife are in full agreement and that’s a great thing to see, they are working as one as they should.
I also understand the team is a business and will weigh risks and do what they need to in order to go in a direction they believe will be successful for them. Nothing wrong with either team or player doing what’s best for them. It won’t always be pretty, but that’s just life sometimes.
"I've seen some articles that make it sound like he's being really selfish here". Gee, I wonder who could be behind those...
I don't have much of a dog in this fight as I don't watch the Rangers a ton. But I did watch these playoffs almost every Ranger game as my team missed the postseason, and Trouba was extremely bad. Constantly out of position, and took awful penalties. He stood out most games for how bad he was.
As a wings fan glad he didn’t get moved to us would’ve been a bad move, but totally agree with the player they offered that contract and he signed the team needs to figure it out not the player
This is one of those situations where I say the GM and coach need to sit down and coach Trouba. He’s an 8 million dollar player. Take the time and make him into the player you need. Teach him how to play the system. Show him where he is lacking and build him up. Nurture your investment. There is nothing wrong with Trouba. If he was worth 8 million in 2019 then he is coachable. So coach him.
He signed a contract. You also need to be good to your word … and signature in this case
As a wings fan, kinda glad he denied the trade. Good for the player. I also didn’t want his cap hit
There's the human aspect, business aspect, and fan aspect
If I was a GM on a team rebuilding, I'd trade for Trouba at $6m. The leadership and grit would be well-appreciated, and you know at the trade deadline (likely year 2) you'd get a handsome reward for holding half the contract for a playoff bound team. Or better yet, find a 3rd party to get the cap hit down to $1.5m.
Rangers should just waive him. He’s a defensive liability come playoff time and takes horrible penalties. During the Hurricanes and Panthers series he legit would’ve been a healthy scratch if he wasn’t the captain. Nearly every time he was on the ice the Rangers were stuck in their own zone on the boards or behind the net just praying for Igor to bail them out.
If it is a NMC, they cannot waive him. If it is a NTC , they can.
Didn’t Spezza also tell everyone that he wouldn’t report if they claimed him off waivers when he was in Toronto?
Just a more recent thing other than the 80’s.
Trouba seems like a good guy (unless you are skating with your head down) and while his contract aged poorly, he is not in the wrong here. If he is putting his family ahead of his own career, who are we to judge? I am a Rangers fan and we sure do need the cap space but this is a very unfortunate situation and I hope it works out for him. Thanks for making this video, Shannon!
Omg… a rational NYC sports fan appears.
I might go buy a lottery ticket.
Well said.
@@BahamutBreaker The guy is a human being for crying out loud. People should try a little empathy now and again.
Trouba is not being selfish. Good for him.
That's on his wife for allowing him to be public enemy number 1. If that's how you think about it then fans are justified hating on him and his wife, it's not selfish as a fan to think that way.
Family above entertainment.
Here’s my general read. Goodrow got kicked to the curb. And Trouba being the captain the rangers didn’t want to do that so I bet they approached him with the idea of finding the best fit out of the 15 teams they could trade him to and work something out
It then leaks that he doesn’t want to be traded at all and possibly wouldn’t report ect so his sketchy value that he had on the market plummeted even more
They should have worked out some trades in advance and THEN asked for his 15 teams and accept anything instead of trying to play nice.
My 2 cents
Nobody put a gun to the Rangers.
Truobs had a contract.
He has given his all since arriving in NY. If healthy, I'm happy to keep him in NY
Wings fan here, I like a lot of the comments have zero issue with him not going to the Wings or any of the 14 other teams on his NTC, however if he's telling the other 16 teams that he won't report than thats different. Cant the Rangers wait just one more year until Trouba's wife is done with school?
If you don't want a player to have all the power in any potential trades you make, then don't give them NTC/NMC...
The only time I get mad at players about no trade clauses is when they demand a trade. I think if the player demands a trade, it should void all clauses.