What Caitlin Clark proved vs. LSU, Angel Reese postgame: 'I've been through so much' | WBB | SPEAK
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- Emmanuel Acho, Joy Taylor, LeSean McCoy and James Jones react to Iowa's revenge win against LSU, then discuss what Caitlin Clark proved in her 41-point performance, along with Angel Reese's postgame comments saying quote: 'I've been through so much' when reflecting on her off-court experiences.
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What Caitlin Clark proved vs. LSU, Angel Reese postgame: 'I've been through so much' | WBB | SPEAK
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Caitlyn Jenner is a man! why won't they say it.
GOATS WIN CHAMPIONSHIPS, RIGHT BRO?👋🏿💍🔔
Joy is an idiot
WRONG about the IA team - they are ALL STELLAR and bada---.
And Clark met the historic moment - THAT is the thing of it.
"What does draymond do that's extra?" Joy was not in her bag on this one lol
Imagine being compared to the habitual nut kicker because you taunt?
Joy needed some smelling sauce after KO'ing herself on that one! Lol
Joy is starting to be a character as much as Skip Bayless. Takes and personality exaggerated now, not genuine
Joy definitely took an L on this one
Angel Reese is beating folks up on court like draymond green now 😹😹😹 y’all are crazy
Joy REALLY said “What does Draymond do that’s extra”?!?! She’s dying on a hill for nothing
She was trying to make a point that what he does is over the top.
she meant what does he do thats extra in the space of taunting. draymond is a dirty player but i havent seen him taunt. staring at someone is not extra but ok
@rgb2219 she was talking about why he's viewed as a villain. It's not the taunting it's being a dirty player. You can say what you want about Angel, Clark or whoever, but they aren't dirty. They just taunt folks. Draymond plays dirty and gets thrown out fairly often.
She’s so woke and delusional
I was about to say has she watched Draymond at all?😂
This is real life merging with sports. I’ve been with my wife for 10+ years and I can’t remember her ever apologizing for anything 😂😂😂. Accountability is an issue .
That's darn down right there they women never ever apologize apology is a man thing we apologize even when we are right 😂😂😂
@threestar3542 never apologize when you are right simply say it's unfortunate you feel that way 🤷🏾♂️
Accountability is kryptonite to women.
Joy is out of line acting like men arent constantly criticized in how they act as winner and losers. Thats half of sports media, the other half is the scores and stats
I could tell buy the way she was giving Shady the side eye that she was gonna try to defend angel for bring both the villain and a crybaby
No one is gonna love every athlete. Look at Lebron he has people who hate him. Tom Brady absolutely got haters, and itsnnot like he's getting into any antics off the field. Haters just come with greatness. They hate watch. They wanna witness when you fail. It not even that big of a deal. But I guess cause it's Angel Reese it's different somehow.
Basically what joy did was try to make it men’s fault. That’s what I got out of it. That was a victim role Angel played and she wouldn’t have done it if she had won
Accountability is kryptonite to women.
Joy: “ Why is she the villain?”
Fellas: She called herself that
Joy: “ Who made her the villain?”
Fellas: She did. She said she was.
Joy: “Someone made her the villain!”
Fellas: She did. 😂😂
Joy is such a joke 😂
That's swell Joy.
The fellas 😂
caitlyn jenner is aman.
They made her the villain after last year when she beat CC and taunted her after the game. But CC did it no one said anything but when a black girl does it…
Accountability is a woman’s kryptonite.
@@fwkira864 who raised you? A single mother?
Samuels
@@risingphoenix1484 ur insecure with ur relationship with ur mother, probably white jumping up and down over a college game, i like clark more if that makes u feel better keep using alts to like comments, fami been cooked u LOOL UR A GIANTS FAN
@@risingphoenix1484 Economics, Finance, and Investing get a job
@@risingphoenix1484 yap yap
Coach Bluder deserves a fair amount of the credit for Iowa and Caitlyn's success. She knows the team's strengths and its her leadership that gave SC their only loss in two years. Caitlyn didnt do it alone.
It’s interesting to me that noooobody talks about Coach Bluder. When they refer to Iowa it’s just CC or Iowa but when they refer to SC they say Staley’s team
What joy doesn’t understand is it doesn’t matter who made her the villain, she probably embraced it until it didn’t work for her
She COMPLETELY Embraced, Engulfed and Fueled it to millions! Then cried alligator tears when it didn't work for her. Accountability.
Finally, and actual black queen with some sense. Thank you ma'am.
That's exactly what happened
She never embraced it. It was all media driven.
@@TyroneGrinada She literally called herself a villian
“You painted the bullseye on your back so why are you surprised when people shoot at you”
💯
*BARS!*
Swag cost💯🥴 you might not like it being real
Because they shot at the target because she was black.
@@101CamourTvbro she crowns herself before each game 😂 no one else is doing that
This segment just shows men and women are differents and we need to accept it.
THANK YOU AND I AM ALL FEMALE-GIRLY GIRL, from way back, there is a difference.
The thing is though I am a man but I understand what Joy was trying to say. She didn’t explain it well at all though lol. Since the national championship, ppl been painting Angel as this classless villain who has no sportsmanship, just because she trash talks. That is something most athletes do. That doesn’t give ppl the right to attack her personally. Ppl send her death threats, they even used AI to make nude photos of her. That’s not something you should have to accept just because you talk trash during a basketball game.
@FlvckoAnt I do understand, brother. But she welcomed all the hatred as long as she wins. That's the only problem. She should keep the same energy in a loss, too. This is how you silent critics. Now, she has given more ammunition to her detractors to come after her. She should have kept strong after a loss. That's all I'm saying
@@stormbringa22 well she broke down because of what Flaujae said about her. They were asked a question and they answered it
Mos def dude
Acho, McCoy and James said it like it is: If you're going to play the villain, don't play victim after you lose Angel Reese!
Too bad Acho backpedaled.
No Shady had the best take.
Acho lead with some BS
This is for you Joy…. She’s “authentically” a “fake villain” 😂😂😂
Not enough credit is being given to the rest of the Iowa squad. All of those Clark assists don't just happen by accident. They run coach Bluder's game plans to perfection. And those rare games where Caitlin is "off," her teammates step up. Gabby Marshall, Kate Martin, Sydney Affolter... all are legit 3-point threats.
Joy says she not gonna play the race and gender game and proceeds to do it 😂😂
She said that sarcastically because that type of thinking is near impossible to actually have any kind of legitimacy. Hence the sarcasm. Come on dog keep up.
because in reality it's a factor. As usual Reese is the one that has to shut up and be quiet.
@@delacybeasley8785 Nobody is telling Reese to shut up. We are merely reacting to what she says and does. You are creating a boogeyman in your head to fight. And you are attempting to shame people into only saying positive things about Reese. Very passive aggressive of you.
@@delacybeasley8785You can’t get cocky, arrogant and start talking all that mess and then once you get humbled you wanna cry and play the victim
@@delacybeasley8785no one said shut up and be quiet. They just said don’t whine or cry after a loss
Joy kept arguing a point that they never made. They didn't say Angel Reese can't play the bad guy role.
The three Uncle Tom's miss the point altogether because Angel wasn't crying because she lost the game , she was crying with emotional gratitude from her teammates giving her such high praises!!
They twist the story concerning her tears!!
I completely agree with this comment
Literally nobody has ever talked about joy as a villain, or talked about joy in any capacity lol
they used to talk about how hot she was until she hit the wall and got fhat. then she opened her mouth and we dont even talk about that.
Joy that was absolutely pathetic!!!Quit making excuses for Angel Reese behavior!!! She absolutely made herself the villain and embraced all the hate as long as she won. Yeah it’s easy to be the winning villain!! but she showed she can’t be the villain when she’s losing too and that’s weak. I’m so tired of that unapologetically garbage too. “I’m unapologetically me, BUT I want you all to apologize to me of you’re mean to me.” If LSU would’ve won that game it would’ve been an all time cringe fest from LSU. I’m tired of them saying “these are kids too.” They’re NOT KIDS!!! They are grown adults in college!!! Joy you ARE part of the problem!!!
Joy expected the guys to take her side just because angel is black. The truth is the truth.
Lol Right...
Joy is correct. Joy has a more balanced conversation and james made some good points re Reese.
@@Yahoshua24 joy is dead wrong. Not everything can be boiled down to "buh...buh... they are black!"
Reese neva complained about being Judge on tha court... Reese is talking about ppl coming at OUTSIDE of Basketball 😎
the tears were not cause of the loss - they were in response to the words of her teammates' support. she didn't come up with excuses. Angel didn't offer the statements. she was asked and she answered.
I knew Joy was bothered….you could hear it in her voice…😂😂😂
Joy can eat a diq bro
I could tell by her face before they even went to her. Smh
You could tell she related to Reese in this situation.
She should be bothered. She first hand lives the experience of having to deal with weirdos on a daily basis
@@work4whatyouwant477 can you like articulate what you said and what you mean
Our own reaction towards her is also unapologetic
Shady said it best. Her game is not elite like Caitlin but she’s getting attention and paid like Caitlin and that’s because of her behavior and attitude in and out of the game. You elevated yourself to star status by being the self proclaimed villain. You’re winning, take the bad with the good
Clark got killed by the Morris girl in the second half for 20 something and LSU beat them for a chip, Reese is a post player who got boards and points I believe she broke a double double record last year and still doing the same thing but she is not elite 17 and 20 championship last year stop the bad takes
@@bruceellis3167 she’s not elite. She has size. It is what it is. Go listen to interviews with WNBA players. Reeses game isn’t going to translate well at the higher level, but they think Clarks will. LSU has a better team than Iowa, that’s why they won last year. Nobody is talking about Reese being anywhere close to as good as Clark. And they never will.
@@bruceellis3167 never talk basketball stats again old head
If the girl from Iowa did the same thing joy would be tearing her apart ever time we talk about female sports every preaches about equality but when it comes to giving harsh critique no no give me a break
Steph curry dancing n doing night night is not a villain..stop
@@xavierb9061Steph Curry is a 🤡
😂😂😂😂 Steph curry is where your mind goes when you think of Angel Reese?!?! 😂😂😂😂
You must be white.?
She wouldn’t have and there wouldn’t have been any backlash in the first place.
Joy taking all types of L’s in this segment
Brain dead … she only has one thing on her brain
Joy taking L's to the face 😂
I understood what she was trying to say but I was glad when James shut her up, lol.
She just likes arguing with Shady the most, but I love her for that.
@@brennenjones6658 or agreeing lol. They're either going at it heavy or agreeing heavy 😂
@@jctslice 😂😂😂
Shady had me ROLLING!!!!!!! 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
Villains don't cry. "We played well, the game plan was solid but Iowa made more plays." That's all you have to say.
What is Joy talking about 😂
She's just rambling 😂 she's in her state of what women like to call "feelings" so logic and all accountability goes out the window so she can feel better
I actually agree with joys take but it seems like she just showed up unprepared for this debate thinking all the guys would just automatically agree with what she says
Listen to what shes saying
She talking facts
@keithwatson3893 I don't know why people made her the villian waving bye. She's great 👍 dame waves good bye to russia a few years ago. Everyone loved it
Dillon Brooks is a perfect example. We responded to him EXACTLY the same way.
Exactly
There's a big difference between celebrating and being a little cocky and actively antagonizing and trying to humiliate your opponents.
I play a lot of boardgames with my nephew and my friends kids, and what I always say is: If you taunt people you have to be able to take it when someone gets you back. Don't pretend you're a big dog barking when you win, only to shy away and whimper when you loose. They are in their early teens now and they get it.
1. That was a national championship game not a dumb board game.
2. She's a woman so of course she cried.
You love that she's unapologetic. But then when She loses and she gets it back unapologetically. She doesn't like it. And I'm supposed to be sympathetic.
The problem with saying you're unapologetic you blah blah blah, then you feel like you cant be critized and you are shunning growth.
Not at all dish it you got to take it
She's a sore loser and an even sorer winner. She wants to do whatever she wants, when she wants but then gets shocked when people react negatively. like ok.
its called grace!🙄
Umm, she didn't say anything negative about the game or Iowa. Her feedback for them was very positive. She's tired of death threats.
Joy is living under a rock in this subject. Reese accepted the criticism and wanted to be the villain cuz she made money and popularity off of it. She self proclaimed it!!!! Don’t cry after you lose
Caitlyn was talking just as much trash. The hands in the face taunt was Caitlyns signature taunt. This is why Angel did it. Funny how racist like you forget this
@@TheMaddBlackManncaitlyn didn't do it in people's face. Most of the time she just looks into the crowd and screams or does a hand signal or something. That's what the hate is about. Angel followed Caitlyn all over the court trying to do that signal in her face multiple times. That's where the villain role came from. If Angel was emotional and cheered toward the crowd or her own teammates it would be different.
Did Caitlin cry after her loss at the podium HECK NAW we seen her hurt but she pushed thru giving props to LSU
@@dmacdm88 stop it. Caitlyn did the taunt regularly and Angel returned the favor and became a villain to white America who wanted to crown Caitlyn last year. So this year millions of non women’s basketball fans showed up to hate Angel. Even the LA Times called them names. All has to do with racism yet people like you will deny it.
@@2legit2quitkc55 facts
Angel seemed to fully embrace being the villain till its now not working 🤷♂️
AMAZING HOW THAT HAPPENS!!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Greatest debate on the subject I have ever hear... Clear and direct.... All Four, you have the show !!!
Moral of the story- don’t give it if you can’t take it.
👏🏻👏🏼👏🏻👏🏼👏🏻
I am old, but that is what they taught us when we were kids...lol
I'm confused. She didn't give any death threats yet she received them
When did she threaten anybody?
@@deenice7022 she told everyone she wanted to be the villain. This is what comes with that. Doesn’t make it right, just makes it so.
I can’t believe I’m finally agreeing with Emmanuel Acho
Me either, he's a gas bag! But he's definitely right on this one!
My first time ever as well 😂
Right lol
I can't see how this is a comment
I guess you're like angel reese but at least you just woke up....
Joy is in her feelings! The difference between men and women is most men talk trash and when they lose they take the L. But for whatever reasons, a woman talks trash and loses, we need to be more sympathetic? Whatever happened to women want to be treated like men, as equals? Or they just want the benefits, but none of the repercussions?
I actually think this was a great segment across the board, and worthy of future discussion.
You put Clark on that LSU team and they’re undefeated and winning by double digits every night
Who’s rebounding? And what the other star guards gonna do
@@Justin-gg6hwwho’s doing that for her on Iowa? 😆
@@Justin-gg6hwReese is top rebounder
Exactly
Yall gotta remember angel Reese has a chip lol
JOY, get out your feelings! YOU can't effectively talk sports in your feelings.
Joy is a woman after all. A brilliant woman most of the time.. but still a woman
and she is so good for that.... I think it is because some man hurt her and that is wrong. Nobody should ever inflict harm or violence on anyone. Maybe all of this is bringing up bad stuff for her--- but she is still wrong about the Angel thing....
All of a sudden she in her feelings naw bruh she speaking real and people like you is proving her point
@@kurosanyasuke8236but she’s not speaking “real” she’s making excuses.
@@williamwatkins2538real in the way her brain works
In my son's school basketball team one of the best player likes showboating everytime he makes a basket. Once the team is loosing this kid pulls selfflops, drops on the floor pretending he got injured and starts to cry. I see the similarity with Angel Reese here.
Not the same at all
Joy is absolutely wrong 😂
Joy stop making excuses for her she got famous of that persona and made millions of it.
Facts and angel is average
Joy is absolutely correct.
Talk s.... but now whimpering
She was famous for her play. Not the trash talking.
@@jamesorr4445she didn’t say that because she lost, she said that because people were sexualizing her, being racist, and sending death threats. Why are people being intentionally dense
Goodness Joy…. i rarely come to this page and here you are making me have another 3 month hiatus
Same she was just yapping 😂
Bye ,because we need truth-tellers not blinded falsehood tellers!
😂😂😂
The best on the show is JJ…but truthfully they all be on some BS sometimes. We need the old ESPN back!!!
I like all the guys take on this issue. I have watch it 4 time and have not got tired of it.
Loving this
I feel like Joy thought she had an argument & realized halfway through it didn’t make sense. But it was too late so she had to stand on it lol
That is the story most of the time for her
I understand what Joy was trying to say. She didn’t explain it well at all though lol. Since the national championship, ppl been painting Angel as this classless villain who has no sportsmanship, just because she trash talks. That is something most athletes do. That doesn’t give ppl the right to attack her personally. Ppl send her death threats, they even used AI to make nude photos of her. That’s not something you should have to accept just because you talk trash during a basketball game.
That’s how it is with every argument with women.
You can tell Joy exasperated when she had her left hand on her hip like that 😂😂
I thought she was about to hit James with the "child PLEASE".
If we can't blame people for being unapologetic, then we can unapologetically stand on our statements.
Im not really a sports watcher , but i really reallybenjoy thesese guys and gal commentary on the game. Looking forward to see more of this
Lesean McCoy's take on the Reese embracing the villain role is spot on. She is a grown woman she must have know that embracing the role would bring her more notoriety and with that comes the negative more people rooting against you. The Floyd Mayweather effect that he describes towards the end of the segment perfectly sums it up. McCoy is right you wanted all the smoke you all big and bad when your winning and knocking teams out the tournament, have to keep that same energy when you loose.
I understand what Joy was trying to say. She didn’t explain it well at all though lol. Since the national championship, ppl been painting Angel as this classless villain who has no sportsmanship, just because she trash talks. That is something most athletes do. That doesn’t give ppl the right to attack her personally. Ppl send her death threats, they even used AI to make nude photos of her. That’s not something you should have to accept just because you talk trash during a basketball game.
@@FlvckoAnt I never said she deserved it but it comes with the teritory of of being a public figure and social media she is not the first person or the last that will experience this it is the Pitfalls of modern day. People back then didn't have to worry about it. There was another Fox Personality that dived into this subject and said either develop a thicker skin to handle it like other athletes or people in the spotlight deal with it or do what Nick Wright said log off social media if it becaomes to much.
@@FlvckoAntThank you. I feel like different people have ways of trash talking to each other and some people don’t draw a line in the sand about what to taunt about and what not to taunt about when trying to throw off an athlete’s game. Trash about her playing style or how another player is capable of beating her in a game instead of sending saying nasty comments about her body or skin color.
She not a grown woman..she just paid like one
@@marvinmj7075 she is 21 years of age she is old enough to drink , vote and get into the military. At what age does a person become a grown woman?
Joy and her “nuance” seems confused. Clark never did the “you can’t see me” gesture to a specific person. Reese followed her on court to find her, and do it to her specifically. Big difference, and glad the guys didn’t buckle opinion to Joy being pretty. That gets old.
THANK YOU...i wish everyone could see this
Angela is allowed to trash talk, and the rhetoric about her trash talking was wrong last year. But I'm not about to pretend that what Clark did was the same as Angela chasing Caitlin around the court after winning the championship.
Caitlin Clark is the only athlete who won the James E Sulivan Award for two consecutive years in the award's 94-year history. Almost impossible to beat.
This was the REALEST segment on the LSU game PERIOD! Not first take, undisputed and etc… none keeping it 💯 like y’all. They are all tip toeing around it. I agree with the fellas.
Acho calls it fair. He never gets involved with race, politics, or personal biases. Just calls it at face value. Wish more commentators would follow his lead.
He & James are the only 2 with a brain in the show.
He has a show called , " uncomfortable conversation with a black man".
Be Fake?
Anyone that uses unapologetic is a fool and a denier of sin
@@soda8736yep and it was just as counterproductive as every segment he covers here😂😂 move on..
Ain't no way Joy took this route!!! Reese just need to stand on being what she said she is. To make this a gender thing is a sad cop out!!!
Agreed, Joy is usually on point. Her take here was not it, disappointing.
It’s expected, the black card was dying to be used
I understand what Joy was trying to say. She didn’t explain it well at all though lol. Since the national championship, ppl been painting Angel as this classless villain who has no sportsmanship, just because she trash talks. That is something most athletes do. That doesn’t give ppl the right to attack her personally. Ppl send her death threats, they even used AI to make nude photos of her. That’s not something you should have to accept just because you talk trash during a basketball game.
@@FlvckoAntbro how many celebrities get death threats . Like legit everybody bro . She was so called sexualized but she did that photo shoot with a swim suit bro everything that happend to her happend because of her actions . The death threats I’m not making excuses for it but if every celebrity opened up their dms they’d see at least 5-50 death threats . Stop making excuses
If the Iowa girls did what Reese does, wave the fingers in their face, wave goodby after fouling out, yell at the opposing coach, they'd have been crucified and demonized. Instead they showed dignity and class, traits Reese doesn't appear to possess.
How does joy have a job… bad take after bad take. It’s infuriating to watch when the rest of the show is so good
usually a huge fan of Joy but this segment was not it
I agree her bias is showing right now.
I was with segment
Fr she in her feelings
She’s really coming off fake as a persona. Like exaggerating her talk and gestures, cringe. Compare first show to now, and it’s like playing a character. Gah
Agreed
A woman will never hold another woman accountable.
That's not true 😂
I will, but I hear ya!
Unless they're more attractive and successful than them. Then watch the venom come out 🤣
*NEVER!!!!*
TRUTH & FACTS!
Wont do it publically
Comment of the Year!
Respect ✊️ gentlemen
This was her last college game. So many emotions! I hate that this is the story of her last game! She showed up in a way that folks wasn’t ready for! When she did all her taunting folks said she was doing too much but some loved it. The villain role came from an article she didn’t self proclaim herself the villain. She took a hold to it after being called that. Tears during the tournament are normal. Even the villain has emotions! You can’t knock her game. She is a hooper.
You heard them she was the 2nd best and it wasn't even close
Shes mediocre one and if you are gonna act like a big dog i dont want to see you whimpering with your tail between your legs when you lose. This whole Angel Reese thing is the reason men dont respect women anymore.
Never knocked her game if you the villain don’t expect sympathy like a hero literally all he said
Proud of these black men for not CAPING. SALUTE FELLAS
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What!!! All three of them was dancing a whole jig on national tv.
@@melvinjonesjr1091nah all 3 didn’t take the bait and come to her defense. They stayed solid.
😂😂😂😂that emoji tho chilllll lol@@BLegit2100
Thanks James. I can’t stand it when people try to play the gender card in these situations 🤨
Gender matters. We live in a society where people have different expectations because of gender, race, etc. it cuts both ways but it matters
@@everestarmstrong7053 Taking trash is not a girl or guy thing, if you talk trash you should be able to receive it as well.
@@enigma13ffye, that's easy enough to say and all... But it's weird that no One else is expected to abide by these criteria! It's a lot of emotions just in this comment section😂😂 why Angel somehow supposed to be above human??
@@gnarlieybrown4214 If you mean the 99.9% of the 8 billion people on earth, the same pound Rodgers, Harden, Caleb, Lebron, ect? Right or it's just her? There is a crybaby segment everyday about the Cowboys. Stop it.
@@gnarlieybrown4214 It's a two way street, you talk trash you have to accept people talking trash to you. There is a reason coaches don't put down other coaches, there is a reason QBs don't put down other QBs. The biggest trash talkers talk because they can back it up. Don't talk trash for your career then get mad when people say things about you. Thats the issue. Stop acting like she is the only one.
This was the best/honest take on this yet! (-Joy😂) good job guys! (-Joy)
It’s very simple BE HUMBLE and your good.
I agree with Acho and Shady on this one. You talking trash but cry when it happens to you.
dats not y she was crying nd it’s crazy how yall miss that
@@truthtella3371Angel Reese was talking that mess and getting arrogant and cocky instead of remaining humble
@@truthtella3371 it's hard to buy it when she was all smiles and giggles after beating UCLA. If LSU had beat Iowa I doubt we would have heard any of this.
What trash talk was she crying about?
@@ahmorgan u wouldn’t have heard it because her college career would still be going wat don’t yall understand?😂 if she won the natty im sure she would still say her experience since she blew up popularity wise
Joy was in her feelings for sure
I just wish no one was the villain and everyone acted classy on the court. I love that when Caitlin was arguing with the ref that her dad yelled at her from the stands and didn’t justify it.
Thank you Acho and Shady for you said regarding Angel Reese's villain-ness. And with all due respect to Joy's take, she's wrong! Angel brought all of the criticism onto herself. When she was winning she was always very high and quite ready to stick it into the face of people. Sometimes those people deserved it. But a LOT of times, they didn't. When Caitlin lost last year, she was asked about the Angel taunting her and her teammates. Caitlin's response was NOTHING BUT CLASS. That is why she is beloved. It isn't because she is white. And Angel being treated as the villain is black. It's how each person has handled SUCCESS!!! Angel got her vitriol from people because of how she and her teammates decided to carry themselves. Even up to the start of the game! The Iowa teammates were out on the court during the national anthem, holding hands. The LSU team was in the locker room, segregating themselves from not just the world, but giving the middle finger to everyone while doing it. LSU could have always endeared themselves to the country and given due respect to the country, the fans, and their opponent, but they DECIDED not to. Those are the FACTS. People are LOVING Caitlin and the Iowa team for how they have handled defeat AND how they have handled success. That is a basic life lesson. Lastly, I'll say this about Joy's comments. People DO criticize MALE villains. We dog them whenever we see them. And if they do it over and over and over, we forever vilify them. We dogged the Bad Boys for DECADES after their loss Chicago. The difference between the Bad Boys and Angel Reece is that the Bad Boys NEVER ACTED LIKE A PUNK VICTIM AND CRIED!!!
She would have broke down right there on the court if Caitlyn ran her down to taunt. 😄
The whole world cry for that white girl last year y'all even wanted her to go to the White House who does that to a losing team
Shaquille O'Neal said it best a great player doesn't mean s*** without a championship
@@713Keepgrindingup There are many great NBA players who never won a championship.
@@nickv4073 go tell them that it doesn't mean s*** without a chip bro it's like going to work for free
@@713Keepgrindingupsuch a dumb comment. Be smarter.
Bruh Joy is tripping. People like Joy and Angel Reese are the same women that wanna be treated like men where they are the winners and as soon as they lose they want compassion and to be treated like ladies. Nah bruh Angel Reese brought this on herself. When you talk, troll and act like she did you can’t be crying and okay the victim when you lose. MAN UP!
Was she acting that way because she lost? Did u watch the press conference in full? Cuz she answered plenty of questions with her head held high until a reporter ASKED HER what she goes thru that people don’t know about and she spoke on it. How is that losing and wanting compassion and not just answering questions honestly? She didn’t duck questions after the game, or didn’t credit IOWA with their win so how didn’t she curry it like a real one?
Exactly what I said in a different comment. A man is a man. A woman is a woman act like one. Conservative values are real and time-tested. Love to everybody from me 😘
Gospel, bruh.
BTH stop crying when you lose. Take that L and get ready for next year.
Great words Carry On Carry on ..
How convenient of an argument, "we dont have enough time on the show for me to provide evidence to my claim, you have to take me word since we dont have time"
Joy doesn’t listen 😂😂- she said she was the villain 😮
i'd disagree with joy. We made Baker the villain when he was in college and he didn't complain when he lost. He got ripped for staking the flag and he was the #1 villain.
We called baker dirty deputants? Gave him death threats? Had articles calling him evil?
Ripped by some loved by others
@@camvole8806 the dude definitely had these so-called death threats.
@@G4MBIT okay what else
@@camvole8806he was called a lot of worse things than “dirty debutant” which is one of the mildest insults I have ever heard. You ever hear SAS, Skip, Rob Parker, etc back in the 2010’s????
Reese is 20 not 10 years old. When you choose to take on the trash talking taunting role, you've placed yourself in the villain role. Everybody loves to root against the villain. "Professional" wrestling has turned that concept into a multi billion dollar business.
I disagree
@@coolnesss16You disagree but give zero context as to why? He’s right, every sport has a villain, looks at Connor mccgregor. He’s hated by a lot of people because he takes on that role, the difference is he’s the same a hole win or lose. Reese is the “ villain “ and the trash talker when she win, but a victim and cry baby when she loses.
you think she deserved to be sexually assaulted and harassed for talking trash? That's why she was crying not because some people don't like her.
face (good) vs heel (bad) is the wrestling term. Angel chose to be a heel.
Why doesn’t Caitlin Clark get the same hate she does as much maybe even more trash talking but is praised for it
James Jones absolutely nailed the truthful points after Joy's lil fake outrage take. Angel brought it on herself. Angel wanted to be the villain, and nobody respects or has sympathy for a crying villain.
She was asked a question! She didn't just cry and volunteer this information. I have seen grown men, athletes, cry on wins and losses, and it's NOT criticized!
LMAOOO shady is absolutely sick of Joy 😭😭😭
They must have broken up lol
@@BigDave113100you think shady smashed?
She’s had beauty carry her to career, but certain comments show she hasn’t played the game. I bet he gets tired of her “nuance” expertise telling him, and rest of crew that has played in NFL..
@@BigDave113100that’s what I thought too lol
Never liked her but I think she got big headed during the time Acho was out.
I’m a black woman and I agree with everything he said about Angel. You can’t be talking like you’re a big dawg and then start crying when you lose. It’s very annoying. If you’re gonna be the villain, you gotta be the villain with no remorse.
This why I actually respect Draymond Green, he keeps the same energy!!!!!
The majority of people talk ignorantly without any knowledge!
Angel, is not a villain and it was the media that painted her that way!
The young lady received so much hate from a certain group of people even death threat and that's why she was crying!
@@anthonyholley2796bruh, she literally said she's fine playing the villain and she was doing the most after they won last year. What was she expecting? Sympathy? Nah it doesn't work like that sorry, switch her gender and people wouldn't even be batting an eye about it
@@anthonyholley2796 She is not receiving any more hate than anyone else. Caitlin Clark and other players gets talked about terribly in comments as well. Idk if you read the comments section of sports article but the trolls are talking about everyone, EQUALLY. Men in the comments are particularly cruel to women. I can't tell you how many articles Ive seen where people called Caitlin a man or called her a Space Jam character. You don't think that hurts her feelings too? Also Caitlin's talent is constantly being diminished because she is white. Hall of Fame black female basketball players have been talking down on her A LOT while uplifting the black female athletes. Swoops even said that she had to stand by her people. Could you imagine being a young girl at the top of your game, breaking records, and the legends you once looked up to don't want to support you because you're not black? This is a two- way street, sir. No one is safe from criticism, threats, or insults. We as black people gotta stop acting like we are the only people dealing with bad experiences. We are not.
@@cheehee808_That's doesn't take away the fact that YT ppl are weirdos who try to hide their racism when it shows in their actions
Me to Joy and especially since Caitlin acts the same way. Fact that she wasn't crying because of that she was crying because she was emotional from what her teammates said.
Thanks to all of you for the great conversation ... Caitlin took the L last season with class and grace ... Caitlin congratulated Angel and downplayed the Ring finger pointing ... Angel went off saying she was disrespected by the you cant see me wave ... and Caitlin still handled things with class and grace and congratulated Angel ... just like Caitlin took the WIN with class and grace
Joy definitely took this personally because we do talk about athletes. As a matter of fact Ocho listed them on this very segment. Baker Mayfield, Draymond Green, Dylan Brooks you could add T.O. Johnny football even as recently as Caleb Williams. So no, this is not an isolated incident to pick on poor little Angel Reese. Her experience is not unique and she definitely made herself a villain to boost her brand. She wanted all that smoke and it turns out she can't handle it.
joy takes this so personally 🤣
There’s a reason as fine as joy is she’s single and her previous marriage only lasted a year😭
she sure did!! Reese said herself she was the big bad wolf!!! now you gotta eat the crow
@@madprogamer4076exactly! lol
@@madprogamer4076😂😂
Why can't we get past race? Our government and media doesn't care about any of us regardless of race, 90% of our government and media just want to get rich off of all Americans, regardless of race.
Joy really makes a fool of herself here lmfao
Love sis ❤ thank you.
Joys face and demeanor when Acho was telling the Angel Reece story about her and the UCLA coach " well Angels grown " was amazing 😂😆
Joy Taylor just told on herself. How many collegiate athletes have ruined their chances of being pros? You don’t see them crying immediately after a loss. Then turn around and play the victim. Young lady, this is what accountability feels like.
The majority of people are buying into the media propaganda!
Angel, was not crying because she lost , she was crying with emotional gratitude concerning her teammates praising her!!
Go and watch the full presser and tell me if she was crying because she lost or because she was asked a direct question about what she experiences off the court?
@@anthonyholley2796why talk about being sexualized when you put out a mold of your box😂😂😂
It was at this moment Joy Taylor learned the difference between FS1 and ESPN. I'm hoping one day someone will check Molly Qurin and Kimberly Martin when they decide to play the victim card! 😂
Acho was preaching! I can't believe he later apologized for stating his OPINION!
It ain't that serious. We don't all have to agree... 🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️🤦🏿♀️
Angel wasn’t crying because she lost, or because people waved her off the court… she can take that bc that ain’t the 1st time she lost… she was crying discussing her off the court experience after they won the champs last year… it’s normal for anyone to cry after losing a spot for the national champs.. Caitlin and her team cried last year in the post presser…
That part
Na
She posts H*E pictures and complains about being sexualized??? As for the rest prove it. "Death Threats" that is a criminal offense, she should make a police report but, she won't because she is lying.
she had the whole year to talk about it.. what does this loss have to do with last year championship stop it
Exactly! Death threats to this young lady is pathetic! Angel crying, was a combination of things and not just the loss.
Being unapologetic and authentic doesnt mean that person is a good person or pleasant to be around.
It also means a person is unwilling to accept criticism , its a pretty dumb way to live.
Or being unemotional is also authentic. Belichick is that ‘on to Cincinnati’ guy.
Joy go take a NAP, why should anyone feel bad or have any sympathy for anyone unapologetic?!
Not everyone gets millions of dollars for being that unapologetic black female athlete either. She wanted to embrace it, she has benefitted from it, she has continued to act hard and be the same person… until Iowa put it on LSU
When Angel Reese led LSU to the national championship and won it last year, she started to get cocky, arrogant and talking that mess and that’s when people started coming after her because she wasn’t remaining humble
Why a winner got to be humble?
@@33kingmajor16they don't. But don't cry and play victim either
@@33kingmajor16 That’s how you become more successful and God blesses you more
@@SP-ej4kdwhat makes y’all think she was crying over a loss??? Everyone losses. She was crying because of what her teammates were saying about her and all the media hate she gets.
@@33kingmajor16they dont...but don't say you embrace being the villian then turn into the victim
When you win you gotta stay humble, when you lose you gotta stay humble and congratulate the other team
She did congratulate them...They actually hugged after the game..
james jones on point as usual, when the man speaks ppl need to listen
Joy: "I take it as a badge of honor when I say things people don't like."
You call it a 'badge of honor.' To the rest of us it's a dunce cap.
ACHO!!! Preach my brother preach it from the highest of podiums. You wanna act above all and flex on social media, place a crown on the bench before the game and ask for sympathy when a GOAT beats you. Angel Reece had a good game she had no reason to seek sympathy. Clark is just built different.
Clark ain't built diff!!! She did the hand waving to many other players! But it was lame when she did it😂
@@hildaheard2185she’s definitely built different, she didn’t cry when she lost 😂
@@bondbarrybonds5774 Actually, She certainly did cry after last years game.
And there we go…Joy said the magic word “BLACK”
Men don’t point in one another faces without a fight, Caitlin handled it with CLASS!