Brit ‘sniper’ Challenger 2 tank blasts Russian invaders from 3 miles away on Ukraine frontline
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- čas přidán 8. 03. 2024
- These are the monster Challenger 2 tanks blasting the Russian invaders in Ukraine.
The Sun gained world-first access as crews unleashed the British-made tank’s devastating 120mm main gun.
Soldiers hailed the world-beating tank as a 64-ton “sniper” that regularly hits Russian targets up to 4.5km away - nearly three miles.
We joined the troops at a secret location close to the front line as they blasted shells down-range.
One tank fired on the move with its gun pointing sideways - destroying a target the size of a dinner plate from more than a mile away.
Green-tinged flames burst from the barrel as a visible blast-wave pulsed over the earth, lifting a veil of dust.
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Im not too happy with that instructor waving that AK about with one hand shooting. Not very good drills!
Eastern European things
It's called battlefield inoculation, making training as realistic as possible. But he was pushing it a bit!
And he got the gun caught up in his own gear. Total friggin idiot. Two hand on the weapon when firing. FFS, he needs retraining himself.
Teaching war, making men tough can't really be done in a pilates class.
@mirandahotspring4019 who tf handing 1 hand when your enemy literally infront of you?
Getting stuck in mud has always been a problem with big heavy tanks! The trick is to avoid low lying areas which means you either know the ground ahead of you or you send out recon units first. This incident was an excellent training moment on how to get unstuck and why you don't send tanks out by themselves without back up.
I just like how the Sun has blurred out the Swastikas painted on the turrets by the Ukranians for this video.
Yes and don't drive through a ditch where there are reeds, it's a tank NOT a ship ;)
@@dellawrence4323The blurring was done to cover up the unit number. If I had my way, Russian trolls like your self would be banned from CZcams.
Hard to do when all of Ukraine is low lying!
Avoid low lying areas, you say? That's pretty much the entire Ukraine. I think you're right 😂
I've learned 2 things from this video:
1. Heavy tanks should avoid waterlogged ground
2. British tankers did not have enough time to teach the Ukrainians water-loving plant recognition
Lolz
😂
@@yfelwulfBS
@@yfelwulf cool. Nobody was discussing any M1 Abrams? Go home russian troll, you are drunk (no surprise there)
@@yfelwulf ok Putler's pet.
Driving slowly into the mud was asking for trouble 🤦♂️
This is camera stunt, they move them faster.
@@stevem2323And you know this how?
@@Assimilator1 Basic logic and knowledge based on what i saw until now about them.
Not only would most tanks get stuck in that but they went in really slow. The second tank showed that the driver knew what to do and just kept the power, speed and most importantly chose a line that wasnt already churned up by multiple vehicles.
Why bother building dragon's teeth? Overhyped western tanks can't cross a field. They only win in jingoistic western propaganda.
i do like the "this is the problem the challenger 2 has" and then like another challenger 2 just doesnt get stuck xD the problem is they treat em like the t series of tanks which are much lighter
Or was the slow speed deliberate to get stuck so they could practice recovery technique?
@@davidgee1451 nah the driver was just an idiot.. hell the entire crew were stupid
You see the reeds beside the stuck tank? They’re indicative of a permanent wet patch, an area that a tank, any tank should avoid. That’s a crew failure not a vehicle issue.
The C2 was facing parts availability problems long before the tanks were gifted to Ukraine. With stored tanks being used as the only reliable source of specialty bits. The C2 is an old, end of life vehicle.
😂
@@TheB1nary What's so funny? They are right.
@@Stigstigster Its a russian troll. They smile when they hear something that is negative for Ukraine.
it's just tall grass, no one will look around if they are under fire, and visibility in the tank is limited, I think it was too heavy for this terrain, just like the German tigers during World War II, they had a problem with this land, when it was wet after the winter, and the fact that the C2 is old does not matter, much older tanks are fighting there
Even the Brits didn't have any real good use for this Challenger Behemoth. So that's why they got rid of them by donating them to the Ukrainians. Very generous of the Brits I'm sure but they are as obsolete as battleships. That's why the Ukrainian Army has focused on the Bradley, the "little old tank that could". The Ukrainians are not fighting the war as per "western tactics" because this war is very different from previous conflicts.
I'm not upset at the instructor firing an AK to simulate battlefield conditions, I get that. I can even understand using live ammo because if I remember correctly, I once heard that live ammo and blanks sound distinctively different from one another? Correct me if I'm wrong, please. But what is absolutely unacceptable is not only how close he was firing towards their heads, but what is severely egregious is the fact that he waved it around single handedly like that. I understand it's war time, but how do you explain accidentally executing 3 soldiers during training because you were sloppy and lost your footing?
Dw, if it did happen they wouldn’t have posted the vid on CZcams.
Was thinking the same. Dude was holding a rifle by one hand and basically dangling it while holding down the trigger. Seems dangerous. Unnecessarily dangerous.
Ukraine is at war, no serving cups of tea in Ukraine duting live fire....their at war realism is everything
i would think she just needs an experienced crew or driver that knows its capabilities and can judge the ground ahead and drive accordingly
This is training so the crew are there to learn. Hopefully they learn from this so it doesn’t happen on the battle field.
@@Buttmunch284it wont make a difference
The crew is getting their experience here. Everybody says tanks should drive fast over these muddy spots, but how fast, exactly? One can only find out by going too slow.
challenger stuck: This is really good training. learning first hand what can happen (getting stuck and why), how to avoid it, and how to solve it (stuck tank recovery). Thank goodness they're learning this on a training field.
It should be standard that they are training with engineering vehicles and tows and what not, that is standard for armoured warfare
50% of bridges in Ukraine are impassable for 50 ton vehicles. especially in rural areas. Western tanks spent more time breaking down on the road than fighting. this is the reason why the t64, t72 , t80 and t90 only weigh 38-46 tons. while challenge 2 weighs 75 tons.
@@carkawalakhatulistiwa There is no way you are talking about Western tanks breaking down when the T-14 Armata broke down during a parade and uses the old SLA.16 engine used in the Tiger 2 during WW2
Mr. Hewes and his Foden is never around when you want him!
Is Mr. Hewes some extremely rich 25 year old? Does he come from old money? Or does his dad or grandpa own the operation? Also, Ted is a cool tabk dog.
@@KirkHermary Not really, his dad started collecting military vehicles when they were worth scrap and he decided to restore one of them - a rare beach recovery vehicle. Fitter Matt (a friend of his) documented this and Mr. Hewes was able to turn that into a business restoring old military vehicles, then he started a CZcams channel to increase his reach. His is lucky in a sense that his dad owns a farm with lots of outbuildings he can uses, but he's not rich or made of money. And neither is his dad, he's just an average if eccentric British farmer.
@@ckm-mkc If i'm not wrong then i think they're also being funded by a museum now
Yeah. I remember him. He came through our town when all the rioting was on (The Tories put up anti-tank pillars on Westminster Bridge (they are still there), fearing a civil war)!
@ckm-mkc thanks for the intel!
Tanks don't go where bullrushes grow. First rule of tankers.
if its tracks are not on hard ground it becomes a 60 ton boat in the mud with a 1000 HP engine that cannot help.
They have to be careful in the spring thaw. That recovery tank knew what to do.
In Minnesota we say "stay out of the rhubarb"
sometimes i wonder if the Ukrainians remember anything theyve been taught?
Not bulrushes , that was the remains of a corn field after harvesting
Any tank would get stuck in that.
so much of technology still not able to hold onto an inch of land, you need to change your leader zelensky, he is a failure
maybe its not yet been told its spreading democracy
Yes, any tank gets stuck. But one is in a quagmire and the other is in a children's sandbox
At least you get stuck in the best soil in the world. Black earth!
Yeah, any tank can get stuck. But I'd assume the Russian type tanks, which are like 15-20 tons lighter, probably can cross slightly more difficult terrain before they get stuck, just because of the physics of ground pressure. Its all tradeoffs with tanks.
The idea of training and exercises is to make mistakes whilst not fighting the actual enemy.
Training is irrelevant when it comes to force disparity. No amount of training will save soldiers from FPV drones or land mines.
@thelwulfofnorhymbraland2333 I don't know how you figure that out. Mines and drones can't occupy territory, so they are limited. The last I checked the object of war was to occupy territory. 😂
@@AethelwulfOfNordHymbraLand2333 people survive those mines and drones, guess you don't want the training to save them? xD
🇷🇺 🇷🇺 🇷🇺
How do you avoid being detected and targeted by FPV drones striking troops at 80mph?
Imagine thinking you're safe & then you get sniped by a tank 3 miles away!
Bro, I'd be in the afterlife Mad AF!! 😭
There is no safe.. drones are far more deadly for a tank
I think the ruzzians are busy with the paperwork for checking in, in hell.
imagine being 40km away and getting sniped by a cheap drone or artillery round
Owh you believe this ?
@@sheepmasterracesure
That tank got stuck because of the crew
commander/driver is responsible for picking which route is best for the tank
Isn't the turret supposed to be facing backwards when attempting this?
@@toxicdoguk why would that make any difference, shall i open my sunroof when going through some mud in my car
if you don't know you, you don't know simple. 😂
It was probably done deliberately as part of the training exercise.
For those saying it’s a bad tank, it’s to heavy, it’s underpowered, bla bla bla. No.
Challenger is a good tank. It just wasn’t build for heavy mud. There’s no tank in the world that’s immune to this issue. Russian tanks, German tanks and American tanks all have also faced this issue in the past.
Challenger was built in a different age for a different battlefield. She did well in the desert sands where she didn’t have to deal with mud. She does well on roads where she doesn’t have to worry about getting bogged down by terrain.
All tanks have weaknesses and strengths. Challenger is just in an area where its weaknesses show. There’s no such thing as an immortal tank. The only ones to claim so are the ones currently waging war against freedom.
Do yourselfs all a favor and those whi wish to be properly educated on tanks and armored warfare please visit the tank museum.
You would would think the lesser armored Leopard 1 tank would be a boon to Ukraine due to it's light weight,agility, high forward and reverse
speeds, and great optics and fire control. The best thing about it is it can get around better in snow and muddy conditions.
Really, the Challenger should be able to cope with the conditions. It may have coped fine in the desert, but it was actually designed to combat the Warsaw Pact and its "battleground" would have been central and eastern Europe.
@@chrisaskin6144yes, in mainland Germany, where bridges and roads are designed for western tanks, not the mud and bridges in Ukraine.
Before the ukrainian counteroffensive all western tanks where gamechangers!! But after meeting with the real world "western tanks are not build for bad road" and drive very good on paved road!! 🤣🤣
Maybe thats the reason when the leopards get destroyed the americans say that their tanks must not be used in "dangerous zones"!!!!
So maybe better keep all that heavy metal and send it by mail to the Crimean beach!! So you are sure it will arrived!!
Better stop this killing!! Or why you not let the people from crimea luhansk and donbass not voting for what they want!?
And if you really want the ukrainian governement wins, they have volunteer brigades!!! So buy a ticket and go look to this war!! I give you on a paper!! "One month and you are back home crying about nightmarries or dead"!!
Believe me the west is a joke!! Look around and tell me what you see!! We are less like one percent from what grandfathers fought in the same type of war 110 years ago!!
And thats exact the reason why the ukrainians fight to hard! Because the Russians and ukrainians they had the same "WAY OF LIFE"!!
And as a 52 years old belgium guy and married for years with my Russian wife, so yes, i understand little more their way of life!
We westners we must stop thinking other countries must live like we live!! It is their problem! And if we not sponsered this war it was over after max 2-3 months even after 14 days if Boris johnson not went to Turkey!
And yes!! ukraine get (back) a pro russia governement!! But now it is a pro western!! so maybe it was not so bad to split after 8 years fighting for donbass!!
Underpowered? Its the fastest tank in the world on rough ground so its not underpowered at all😂 not fastest on roads
I like how the title doesn't reflect at all what's in the video.
The Suns Jerome Starkey Cope Posts.
That's why I gave it a thumbs down.
@@JZsBFF 👍🏻
Sun Propaganda Misinformation and conspiracy theories
Drives tank into ditch --> it gets stuck --> why are you suprised?
Cause it is not a real Leopard. That's what happens when you imitate but don't duplicate true power
@@user-wh1dm6bc9kу вас танки либо для городского боя, либо парадные. Гусеничная система и сами танки не предназначены для ведения боевых действий не настабильном грунте. Со второй мировой прошло почти столетие, а вы ничему не научились, поэтому будете биты.
@@user-wh1dm6bc9k It's a Challenger 2 not a Leopard.
It's straight from the UK army just with previous generation reactive armour.
@@user-wh1dm6bc9k we don't need a child tank we know what we want and will stick with it, it's the only tank to be unbeaten while in the hands of it's maker. So yes not a weak and pitiful leopard.
I am assuming that the detractors of the Challenger would prefer a lightweight ruzzian tank...
it isnt too heavy thats just poor driving, any tank would of got stuck in that
look at the earthy fields, it all turns into mud after rain. Think for one second, where you wanna drive if you get stuck everywhere😂
Correct... but also... not correct...
Yes most tanks would of got stuck in that... But the C2 IS too heavy. C3 is 5 tons lighter (without additional armour) and has a much more powerful engine for this exact reason.
Situational awareness needs a bit of assistance.
so much of technology still not able to hold onto an inch of land, you need to change your leader zelensky, he is a failure
Our tanks have always been good but its our tank crews that make our tanks stand out. You are 100% right he shouldn't have even tried to drive through that. This is also the reason we don't send tanks out alone.
Getting stuck is still excellent real world traing that you need to survive in combat situations. It has to be pracitced by all crews.
I also think it was deliberate, to prove a point and to train the guys. I think Britain is getting good feedback from an active battle-zone for its equipment without risking britt. lives. If they are smart they will take note and improve
Mud will always be a problem for any tank.
В России пословица - танки грязи не боятся.
Судя по всему, дроны им тоже не страшны.
@@ricky_pigeon вот дранов все боятся🤣
Not for a good crew and driver!
For some more than others, and don't talk like you don't know it.
Any idiot would realise that with 50 plus tons of metal, you would not drive towards the mud. It's common sense, hours of getting stuck or get out and check out whether you can get through it.
Yeah, except this is a training ground. They drive into the mud to practice retrieval.
No they do it with Western journalists around so they can say this doesn't work we need better equipment
@@natdizzle4259 Do better or Tsar Puny will send you to Ukraine.
😂😂😂just one detail, this made lower presurre on ground than wheels on cm² area , I think y 're from this great Africa engineer right 😆
Sometimes there are mines and you can not go around. So you have to learn to read the mud before you decide to drive in.
That DS would have failed his LFTT course with that AK BATSIM.
so much of technology still not able to hold onto an inch of land, you need to change your leader zelensky, he is a failure
Truly idiotic
Really dangerous and could easily have gone horribly wrong.
How would it gone wrong they were simulating being under heavy contact so they would have drilled it multiple times so that they are not going to put there heads up also they are training drills they have been in the war since beginning maybe 10 years!
@@NotaSheopleIt would have gone wrong if the weapon had discharged when the DS had it pointed DIRECTLY AT the recruits in the trench doing the training. He didn't have full control of the muzzle because he was waving the gun around with one hand.
Although I don't disagree with the reports statement regarding Challenges getting stuck. I do believe, based on a few things, that this was a intentional training scenario. The Challenger drove through a existing tank track. And with the convenient target for small arms training as well as timely arrival of assistance makes me believe this is good training. Glory Ukraine.
The instructor shooting an AK full auto, live ammo, one-handed at pupils... that's not gonna fly in the US.
*"Challenger tanks blast Russian Forces"*
*"Source?"*
*"Trust me Bro."*
*- Larper Jerome Starkey.*
I mean it definitely has blasted a russian force
Что хорошо русскому- неприятелю смерть. Русская земля всех примет, кого не увезли на кладбище. Время покажет, прав ди автор
@FuriousFire898 I mean, it stopped Russian Artillery round. 🤷🏻♂️
How is it the tanks fault that people drive it into the mud, knowing how heavy and underpowered it is?
What a weird thing to say.
only 1200 hp is indeed underpowered for a heavy tank like this. the leopard 2 has 1500 hp.
So how it should be used if this type of terraine is everywhere in Ukraine?
This tank is not underpowered Chieftain had only 550HP when they first came out, it was a shambles, they should have chosen their ground better!
I reckon that was on purpose, training to remove the tank's if it happens in a battle situation perhaps.
@@gaptaxi compared to other tanks in this weight class it´s underpowered.
The instructor firing live rounds into the trench just above his guys heads is a lunatic. Is he trying to kill or injure his men before they see battle.
2:10 This one handed simulation of being under fire seems unnecessarily dangerous. Still, WTF do I know?
Title incorrect...there was no actual blasting of any Russian enemy from three miles away on the front line in this film. Every bit of that statement is wrong .
It peeves me too. The content is decent enough, so why the lies? More clicks, I guess, but it does seem dishonest.
@@olatronok facts 80% of Ukraine is still under Ukraine control
Russia is now spending trillions in a war with just Ukraine when ww2 cost 4 trillion ouch
They don't use them at the front anymore. Crews don't like them as much as the leopards and Abrams as the power to weight ratio is lower. Eastern European tankers like high mobility. Challenger is the wrong tank for this conflict
Driving error, not just the weight of the Tank.
I think more likely they drove in to get stuck on purpose… if they don’t practice getting unstuck how will they know what do on the real battlefield?
@@SJ-pb6jx That sir is a very good point.
@@SJ-pb6jx😂😂in east T tank just use log
Driving into a "pond" is a good way to get stuck. Ukraine has a beautiful, deep soil layer which makes tank travel bad and growing crops good.
Challenger 1 has the record for the longest tank kill. Not challenger 2. Two very different animals.
Widely available to be read about online and widely talked about in the community. And yet still a major news company couldn’t even get that right.
The sun,"major news company" 😂
They also said the Challenger 2's are what we have until the Challenger 3's come, the Challenger 2's are becoming the Challenger 3's via upgrade, we're not getting more, we're getting less (afaik not all are being upgraded).
Challenger 2 has the same turret as 1
Thank you, UK, from a person of conscience in the US.
What's most important: a) Mobility, b) Protection, or c) Firepower? The answer is really secret answer d) Target Aquisition and Fire Control. In the vast majority of tank-on-tank engagements, the first tank to fire an accurate shot wins.
Most tanks in Ukraine are not taken out in tank on tank combat. Artillery, mines, FPV-drones, ATGMs and so on.
@@Fuhrerjehova Yes, I'm speaking about general armor design on a larger scale, as he refers to at the beginning of the report, not just this specific conflict.
Maybe the King of Jordan needs to approached as he has hundreds of chalenger tanks in storage. Maybe they could be upgraded and be fitted with the new armour and weapons targeting equipment.
Lots of questions. What condition are they in. How much spares and ammo is there. Can new parts and ammo be made quickly. How much will it cost and would that money be better spent elsewhere. Etc etc.
arent they challenger 1?!?
Apparently they are in fairly good condtion and yes they are Challenger 1 however they apparently can be quickly upgraded and sent to Ukraine.
@@hallojutuhb9071 Apparently they are in fairly good condtion and yes they are Challenger 1 however they apparently can be quickly upgraded and sent to Ukraine.
The British, please explain: Do you really want to go to war with Russia? I hope you understand that your games may end up with someone on the planet's hand falling on the red button (and not necessarily in Russia). Mathematically, only people in the USA, Russia, China, Australia and Africa and in some places in South America will be able to survive from large countries. Britain, like most European countries, will burn down completely due to the high population density and the power of nuclear weapons. Of course, the western part of Russia will suffer, but Siberian cities will survive. Why are you bringing the apocalypse closer?
Anyone who's operated with Tanks can see this was a crew training issue , and they maybe even got stuck on purpose to train them in what to do this was a training exercise ,it's the place to find out the capabilities of equipment and correct operation.
Driving through already churned ground is something to avoid in any MBT ,even the good old ARV's we gave them would struggle in that mud and they have the lowest track loading possible.
we in the UK value freedom and Ukraine is our defence priority. UK taxpayer
what freedom? we dont have any. we cant even call ourselves a democracy anymore. what world are you living in?
so much of technology still not able to hold onto an inch of land, you need to change your leader zelensky, he is a failure
foolish statement ??
@@nouka72 Tell me, how tasty are the boots in your country?
We don't value freedom. The lockdown proved that.
calling leapord 1 a modern tank is a far fetch.
Compared to the WW2 tanks Ruzzia is using, it is.
Russia is not using WW2 tanks. Why lie? Cant you make a genuine observation?@@JC130676
@@o3tg2w35t Did their brillant tanks already arrive in Kiev?
I know training has to be realistic but firing an automatic weapon single handed over exercising troops is a little unsafe given the high casualty rate in actual combat…. I’m not a health and safety geek but this is taking the p..s
Abdominal handling of a firearm and trigger discipline by what seems like a trainer at 2:08. Single-handedly firing an outline around the soldiers. After the scare tactic, put the rifle down, putting the path of the barrel directly over said soldiers without turning on the safety and keeping a finger on the trigger with the only hand/support on the gun. Also when dealing with attachments on the gun and still holding the gun one-handed, pointed the barrel at 2 soldiers' heads with a finger on the trigger. That man is going to kill a friendly one day, I would refuse to go near him while armed.
The longest tank kill was made by a Challenger 1 not a Challenger 2
Always fun doing track repairs in the Mud. Pulling Sunk APC out of a creek due to crew failure to install all the drain plugs we used a M48A5 to recover the sunk M113A2. I taught armor Cav and anti-tank systems in the US Army reserve my crews I taught all raw active-duty recruits never had a track thrown or break even with badly worn tracks as I taught them make small corrections to avoid mud build up, look for hard ground and small gaps in creek banks and use enough speed to get across in one go. All the other instructors had thrown or broken tracks from over aggressive movements. Dealing with it in training is good as it instills caution needed for combat.
The editor missed in one of the clips to cover the tank's markings 🧐
Cr2 does not hold the longest kill....that was done by a Cr1 in Iraq.
Which was basically the same gun and fire control system as late model Chieftain!
@@FrontSideBus correct!
why dont we send them our chieftans we got in storage then?@@FrontSideBus
@@Ickie71 There are barely enough spares to keep Challenger 2 operational, never mind a load of Chieftains that were sold off to farmers 30 years ago and which no new spares have been made since.
The best thing would be to get the 400 Jordanian Challenger 1's that have recently been withdrawn from service.
ive just read about that too yeah i totally agree with you im sure our jordanian "friend" wont argue too much about this once approached eh?@@FrontSideBus
Russia doesnt have tanks more than 50 tons of weight. Guess why?
Thats the problem, these guys are used to tanks that are half the weight, it's understandable they get stuck where a Russian tank would not. But Russian tanks also get destroyed a lot easier because they are half the weight, so take your pick of problems.
Many bridges are not designed to weigh more than 50-60 tons.
Because their trash engines can’t move more weight
@@nickbreen287 FVP drone doesn't care what kind of frontal armor you have, everything is destroyed easily. and the T90 is not much weaker in defense than Western tanks
Russian tanks are made for real world warfare and solving problems! 😅 Challenger II is advertising piece for computer tank games or game console, which in the real world was easily destroyed in the first real war it faced and gets stranded in the mud or breaks down due to its weaknesses!
it's not stuck,. it's dug in for extra protection,.. 😅
to stop someone getting to its underbelly?
@@dave20thmay no it's lower, provides a smaller target
That's not Hull down mate , that's belly down in soft ground, too boggy, not the tanks fault, that is controlled by input from the Commander and driver, if in doubt, get out, check.
The Ukrainians said Challenger 2 was so under Powered!!!! And no doubt the British Army said the same at the time !!!!! When our Armed Fighting Forces go to War our Troops need the Very best Weapons and Equipment its as simple as that !!!!! GIVE OUR BOYS AND GIRLS THE BEST TO DO THE JOB !!!!
actually the challenger 2 isnt under powered, did you not watch the video? a challenger 2 weighs like 60 tons, so that challenger 2 which pulled the other one out the mud? that engine was dealing with 120 tons
its not underpowered.
It's actually quite simple: If you know that the tank can't drive on soft ground, then you don't drive it on soft ground.
Dude just one handing 7x62 like its a toy.
I'm both amazed and concerned.
Say what you want about Journalists, but this is awesome. The high quality and brightness paired with a balanced dialogue and seeing the struggles they have to face and so on
Imagine, what will be in real battle…
That's not a field that's a lake with some mud...tank crews wouldn't drive into the ocean would they...let's see the the German, American,russian tanks have a go.
Don't go thinking Ukraine is patchwork of green fields like most of England. There are large expanses of marsh and boggy moorland like in the video. Looks as if Challenger will have to wait for Summer before it sees action proper!
Funny you should say that.....
Cause American tanks did drive _out_ of the ocean in WW2!
Course, those were 30-35 ton Shermans, not 64+ ton MBTs....
But yes, you are right. Modern MBTs have limitations, soft, muddy terrain, is definitely one of them.
@@dposcuro Yes the Sherman 'Funnies' developed by one Major-General Sir Percy Hobart. Except the Americans ignored instructions and dropped their amphibious DD Shermans too far off the beach and they sank in the bigger swells or were just carried down the landing sites in the currents off Omahq.
@@windymiller6908до лета их не останется в живых😅
@@_mexvod Right on man! 😉
Love the sun- it makes it easy to work out what’s fact and what Sun-anticy.
Excellent report, cracking correspondent.
actually it was awful and full of errors, challenger 2 isnt underpowered at all. Any tank would get stuck going into that ditch, thats poor driving and commanding. Plenty of exercises in similiar conditions and the challenger has never had an issue with being too heavy.
Any tank would get stuck in that…especially once stuck you just keep on digging it deeper
The Leopards don't. The Chally is heavier but has a weaker engine (1200 hp vs. 1500 hp). It's a disadvantage that's been known for decades but nothing has been done to fix that.
It's gonna get stuck if you drive it into a swamp. It's a 70tn tank, not a hovercraft.
That massive open field and they aimed it directly into the only bog in sight. (probably because the journalist told them to for the content)
I agree If you Train 50-80 hours a week, you should come across problems like this.....
Avoid boggy waterlogged ground, stick to hard ground as much as possible.
Any modern tank would get stuck in mud like that, the C2 was designed to fight in a European theatre of war ie the Cold War so don’t read too much into it bottoming out.
Западные производители и западные комментаторы понятия не имеют что такое танк )))
An excellent report…
Donated a year ago and still working, most impressive..
Flat Battery Issues due Cold Weather though. Only good in Deserts
Look at that hollywood camera work at the start! They must be so desperate! 😂
Challengers and Chieftain tanks performed really well in Iran/Iraq war (1980-88). British tanks are great, except for small engines, and I think the engine issue occurs since the add ons for protection and capabilities keep adding to the weight. The British tanks have EXCELLENT guns with great range and offer a lot of protection for the crew.
Британские танки хороши когда используются для войны с арабами в коричневых тапочках. Как только пошла война с Россией, выяснилось что британские танки просто смешны. Главная характеристика танка это их количество.
Why bother building dragon's teeth? Overhyped western tanks can't cross a field. They only win in jingoistic western propaganda. The "Excellent" tanks weren't built for a real war - just for regime change, sorry "democracy" spreading in poor countries which pose no threat. Your tanks don't even have anti-personnel shrapnel ammunition. They are duds.
@@MrMursilok at least they don't throw their turrets 200 metres in the air when an enemy looks at them :))))
No wonder there struggling, even while training they took a 70 ton tank in a boggy area
Yea why train in the same type of terrain that your going to fight in! LOL that's Ukraine!
Ttouble is there's lots of similar terrain in Ukraine
It doesn’t weigh 70 tons
That’s the bridge classification
Not the weight of a CR
@@jameslynch7826 With the extra armour it weights more than 70 tons and they added it!!!
No vehicle would of travelled through that heavy or otherwise. Well perhaps an Hovercraft.
Western Tanks where made for Tank battles in the fulda plain in western germany, not for ukraine terrain.
Wow everybody here seems to be an experienced tanker! 😂
Keyboard tank crews :-) A few of us have the knowledge.
I've served in warthunder, warthunder mobile, and World of Tanks on both platforms, too. I have also served in world of battleships on both ps4, mobile, and pc.
I've seen things man. Things you wouldn't believe. When matchmaking goes fubar and you're in a t1 bucket against a stacked team of t6's, you'll know what real combat is, son.
That’s a lie because all chally tanks got pulled from Ukraine after the first 1 got destroyed, your trying your best ever since the Russians destroyed 50 leopards and 3 abrams tanks, this is the same news outlet that labeled a leopard as a Russian tank
?Don’t recall anything about challengers being pulled out of Ukraine and the Russians have lost thousands of tanks since the beginning of the war.
@@ThemagpieBird734 it’s funny you say they’ve lost thousands they have, but Ukraine has lost near enough all its soviet tanks t64 are none existing t72 a handful left, t80 again minimum or near enough none in stock, meanwhile russia might have lost tanks but it’s still pumping out brand new tanks everyday, new t72b3 new t80bvm new t90m’s I can go on and on and on, meanwhile Ukraine is using the last of its western equipment, russia has lost 10% of its t90’s since the start, Ukraine has lost 15% of its abrams in 1 week? 80 odd leopards 50+ have been destroyed or some captured
Thanks, Sun.
ANY MBT (Tank) can get stuck in rough wet terrain, especially if not driven properly. There hasn’t been an MBT in the world designed that will not get bogged in, in such conditions.
If there was every tank would have that capability.
The melted snow and spring rains are going to make it virtually impossible to move almost all pieces of heavy equipment on both sides. Nature of the land.
It's mud season in Ukraine
Тебе нужно получать профессорскую зарплату за такие знания. Буду голосовать чтобы тебя сделали министром обороны Украины.
DEAR DRIVER, please avoid pool size puddles :) tanks ! ( thanks )
As a firing platform it is immensely stable. Look at when firing how low the recoil is and how little the tank moves. You can see why it could accept an even larger cannon on a possible future revision for this platform.
the log is thrown under the tracks perpendicular to the movement of the tank in front or behind - depending on where it is more convenient to move - and secured with special cables. The car is started, the tracks climb onto the log and pull the armored vehicles out of the quagmire.
Already in World War II, Soviet troops used logs everywhere. They were secured with chains and carried with them always.
A tree trunk cleared of branches and attached to the tank body was called a “self-pulling log.” This device, ingenious in its simplicity, allowed the tank crew to quickly overcome impassable swamps,
Why pixelate the Balkenkreuz painted on the sides of the turret?
Offends the Muslim viewers
are we really questioning the weight of a heavy tank
Look at all those reeds growing in that low laying waterlogged ground, that looks like a perfect place to drive a tank said nobody ever. Honestly recon is vital if your going to move heavy armor about in unfamiliar ground.
Ex British challenger driver/operator here 🙋🏼♂️ if you need an extra crewman.
That shows me how Inexperienced the crews are using these tanks. Who would take a Tank like the Chally through the wettest and softest part of a field when there is firmer ground a few feet away.
A crew on a training exercise who need to learn recovery drills?
Really.? In combat they would have been a sitting duck. Better to learn not to get stuck in the first place. @@BigVeez
@@BigVeezThat would be one expensive training course.
@@capmultser It doesn't really work like that. "Make sure everything goes to plan" is not a contingency strategy.
In frontline you will not drive on the grass because off milions off mines so what would be point off training
We have already seen how the Russian T-72 destroyed the Abrams in a tank duel. Then the Russians asked sleepy Joe to send as many of these tanks as possible. In return, they promised him 10% of their fee.😂😂😂
The Abrams was destroyed from the air, not by a tank.
@@johnnyenglish583few Abrams was destroyed in first week of using in battle.
@@dmitryogorodnikov699 yes, but not by a tank. It was hit from the top on the blowout panels of the ammunition storage. If you're saying this was done by a ruSSian tank then it must have been a lucky shot from one of the famous ruSSian flying turrets ;)
Both sides have to deal with the challenges of the terrain & this video shows you just how hard it can be to advance quickly in Ukraine. I am surprised that in 2024 we have still yet learned how to solve this issue. At least make a Tank capable of being able to overcome 1 ditch.
"That's the sound of an AK-47, the preferred weapon of your enemy"....Heartbreak Ridge.
I think they got stuck on purpose for training exercise
polish soldiers also did some exercise on 6th march when they crossed their mates on a vehicle
Great report.
If the challenger was getting bogged down. What awaits the Abrams on the wet soft Ukrainian battlefield. Germans learnt this lesson on the eastern fro
nt. Big heavy tanks are no match for light agile smaller tanks and supporting forces.
In close range sure, but if a challenger is operated by a competent crew, they’ll never find themselves in range of enemy tanks and can pick them off from distance. Equally the challie can - and was proven to - survive a direct hit from a t-72. A tank is only as good as its crew.
Уже есть видео в сети подбитых и сгоревших Абрамс.
It's funny to see how everything that can help in geolocation is carefully blurred. This tank is afraid of being at the front more than anything else.
In the age of drones any tank is.
I think they'll just keep the remaining Challengers for making videos like this one away from the front. How many shells do they even have? Very few I imagine.
It's funny to see how some will just say anything to cope.
Great report.
Thank you sir,
Glória à Ucrânia 🙏
It has its CHALLENGES! The round around the crew and they are second hand.
I don't get it. When I was in a tank unit and was in a similar situation we would go around an obstacle like that when you knew what the result would be?
It's a 60+ tonne machine! You can't expect to take it to the same places as old T72's which weigh half as much!
Surely, the pressure the tank exerts on the ground matters more than the absolute weight of the tank? Pressure = Force (the "weight" of the tank) divided by track area in contact with the ground I've noticed Russian armoured vehicles tend to have quite narrow tracks, so, for an equivalent weight and assuming a similar length of track in contact with the ground, will exert more pressure and, therefore, sink deeper into mud. If, as you say, the T72 is half the weight, it probably exerts less pressure, so will have an advantage in deep mud.
The Scorpion light tank (I thought the UK had donated its entire stock to Ukraine?) is reputed to exert less ground pressure than a soldier. There are stories of soldiers jumping off Scorpions and sinking deep into mud the Scorpion itself drove straight over.
With the ground in question here, any tank would get stuck, including much lighter ones like T-72 etc. The reason is partly to do with ground pressure but mainly to do with the mud being extremely soft and, more importantly, deep enough to make the hull bottom out, regardless of the vehicle weight. Unless a tank is effectively on stilts, to the point that the hull doesn't bottom out before the ground becomes firm enough, it would get stuck there... I watched a T-84 in Poland litterally dissappear under water in a ditch after the chally went through it... why because the driver slowed down and didn't fully commit because of the depth of the mud and water... Training is key and thats the time to make mistakes and learn as to not repeat it again... 1st rule: Avoid ... 2nd rule: If you must then momentum is key, go hard or get stuck
GREAT AND INFORMATIVE REPORTING.
The second tank crew knew what they were doing and how to handle this vehicle
0:49 "modern western tanks including the leopard 1"... wtf???
so much of technology still not able to hold onto an inch of land, you need to change your leader zelensky, he is a failure
He literally said "Leopard 2"
No at 0:49 he said first leopard 1... a "modern" mbt from the sixties...
There are leopard 1 modernized versions you bot
@@tobi2233 shut up kid... when I was in the army we had leopard 1 and I know that in today's battlefield is almost useless especially with the 105mm cannon and 70mm front armour
Even with mexas additional armour it's still too vulnerable...
" The longest confirmed tank kills in history During the offensive one, Challenger finally laid to rest the doubts anyone had over the capability of the type with a single shot. That shot was made over a staggering range of 5,100m (3 miles) with a Depleted Uranium (DU) round - the longest confirmed tank kill in history."
The story goes that the gunner asked his commander for permission to take the shot and pulled it off
Challenger 1 tho....
@@ragnarlodbrok8399 I didn't know which it was . So the challenger 2 is probably better at long range shots with better optics etc
Thanks for the video.
Good journalism from the Sun. Credit where it is due.
I love all these key board generals commenting on this video
But they won the war in Ukraine twice already, in World of Tanks that is...
Ukraine is advancing backwards and Russia is retreating forward
Why does every pro-russian have the name 'user-randomcharacters'? Its almost like they are bots spamming the same drivel. Naaah, couldnt be true...
That's how you spin that challengers are really just very expensive artillery guns.
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That was very reckless and arrogant how the instructor fired live bullets with hand PERIOD ! Support Ukraine YES ! but have that trainer disciplined