THE STRANGE CASE OF BOSNIA HERZEGOVINA | Visiting with a local
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- While touring Banja Luka with a local, I tell the history of Bosnia Herzegovina.
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00:00-04:39 Welcome to BiH!
04:40-08:27 The strange case of BiH
08:28-13:40 Banja Luka
13:41-16:20 History of the country
16:21-20:44 Living in Banja Luka
20:45-26:13 My interpretation
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Thank you Mary Jane for this insight into town of Banja Luka! But I recommend you to learn additionaly about the town from the independent sources and especially about its recent history in the '90s. Maybe you'll discover something that local Serbs didn't want to mention, like destroyed mosques and Franciscian monastery, concentration camps for non-Serbs, ethnical cleansing and so on... And please, visit Sarajevo, if you didn't. All the best! :)
Ti se zalis njoj za rusenje ne pravoslavnih bogomolja.A njen papa pobio milijardu ljudi i krscana i muslimama i domorodaca po cijeloj planeti .Ferhadija se obnovila za 7 god a pravoslavna crkva nakon 70 godina!I ti se nesto ko bunis.
mislim da nema smisla govoriti o necemu sta se desilo 90 tih a ne pomenuti sta je koren tih sukoba a to opet ide puno vise u nazad pa recimo 500 godina i sta se tada desavalo pd okupacijomi td i td .Rusili su i jedni i drugi i treci kao sto su i ubijali i imali logore za sukob je potrebno dvoje ,zato nema smisla kriviti samo jednu stranu i daviti ovu zenu koja ce to tesko razumeti .
Zapamti ,bolestan covek se ne moze izleciti ako se ne zna uzrok bolesti .lp
@@vesnanuspahic7510 samo polusvijet, bez moralnog i eticnog kompasa moze izjaviti u tom stilu-kao proslo pa ne treba pricati, dok vam smrad od ratnog zlocina zaudara po nazivima ulica ratnih zlocinaca i dok vam monstrumi rata krase fasade zgrada.Takav trulez .
@@allcars2315 Za ponovnu izgradnju dzamije Ferhadije zlocinci ubili Murata Badica koji je dosao kao vjernik na polaganje kamena temeljca. Nikome nije smetala izgradnja crkve koja je porusena 1941, nije smetala ni tadasnjim stanovnicima BL koji su vecinom bili nepravoslavno stanovnistvo ali dovoljno LJUDI pa su se usudili potpisati Muslimansku Rezoluciju. Kao rezultat njihovi potomci su od 92 bili izlozeni razlicitim zvjerskim i neljudskim akcijama dojucerasnjih komsija i prijatelja, pa su zatvarani, premlacivani,pljackani i,ubijani protjerani. Koji ste Vi to polusvijet i kakav mentalitet i koji plitak um postavljati takvo pitanje?
yes the truth must be told the total ugly truth as well - but not all want to accept it and not all want to forget it
Well Mary Jane have you learned how many mosques have been destroyed in Banja Luka during Last war? Sure your friend never mentioned to you.
Super vidéo ,svaka cast tooop
If you like history, this video is best viewed on mute.
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Bellissimo video, molto ben fatto e informativo!😁
Grazie Fabrizio!
Thank you for covering my country! You have made very beautiful videos. I hope you come to Sarajevo, if God wills it
Thank you!
Great Bosnian rapper Edo Maajka said it:"Svi stranci a svi Bosanci!" 😁 Pozdrav iz Slovenije za sve Bosance!
Maybe next time you should visit Montenegro. Nice videos. Glad to discover your channel.
I would love to! I haven't been to Montenegro yet.
It's a nice video overall. Next time try to cover the history of Ferhat Pasha Mosque in Banja Luka, and how the Serbs blew it to pieces for no reason in 1993.
kako se moze izgradi ono sto su ustase i titovi komunisti zabranili a to je crkva gdje je bio onaj spomenik jugo vojnicima ako se dobro sjecam (tu mi je otac smuvao majku uz svirku gitare) tako bi trebalo da se ferhadija sagradi prije nego sto mozemo o bilo cemu dalje da pricamo... ne zagovaram mrznju ili nacionalizam ali ferhadija je starija bila nego ova crkva koja ima istoriju od 70-ak godina... eh sad tklo mi kaze da ferhadija ne pripada tamo gde je bila onda sam sebi kaze da ni crkva ne treba da bude... eto to je moje misljenje
And something about Muslim crimes against Serbs in Ottoman period, WW1, WW2, 1990s...
@@KraljStefan-ey3bo Typical Genocidal Serb. Looking through a "thousand year history" and point out the crimes of other nations like the Ottomans and the Croats, just to justify the Serbian hate and genocide of TODAY.
The Catholics also sealed their supremacy with blood. Perhaps today we should learn to interpret our Holy Scriptures a little closer to the present. We must not forget that God did not write the Bible (I suppose it is the same with the Koran). Men only had words to record the will of God. Words have a fundamental deficit, words describe an image, the word will never be like the image itself. A will is much more complex than the two together, the image and the word.
In muslim belief, Quran is recited to a prophet Muhammed pbuh and is memorised from cover to cover and is not written by people. If that was the case, the book itself would be full of errors and inconsistencies like the bible.
Thank You for all the hard work you did on this documentary Mary Jane. I recommend the Documentary Once Brothers to anyone interested in the subject. You're friend was a great guide & Thanks to him for helping to sort out the complications of his country.
Come again here. Such charismatic lady! Nice video. I think, You got it!
Thank you, Mary Jane. It was extremely interesting. I am deepening my knowledge of Eastern Europe and started to travel there trying to understand the recent and complex history of these territories. Your video made me understand more of it and open a whole new world to me. Thank you for your job and thank to your Bosnian friend too. Having his point of view in the video is such an added value to it. Keep on this very good job your doing. A special mention also to the quality of the video production and editing!
Thank you very much for your comment Susanne.
Balkans are not Eastern Europe:)
This video is great. What a confusing area of Europe and you gave a brief and concise overview.
Thank you!
Although you have said the video will not be political, we can see it is biased constructed opinions through the eyes of the people in that region. Still a nice video and we do not blame you for a not fair comparison and biased information. It is always good to hear other sides and then make a video based on opinions of all the people in the region.
Serbian aggressive nationalism is the major reason for current tensions not only in Bosnia but also in Montenegro and Kosovo. After dissolution of Yugoslavia Serbian people were the only people absolutely not satisfied with the aftermath of Yugoslavia’s demise. Serbian national goal has always been for all Serbs to live in one country and that’s not the case today. That’s why the tensions and volatility in this region will continue until Serbs achieve their goal.
To be honest this is the idea that I’ve mostly had about the problem in the Balkans. Nonetheless, I’m convinced that if there are problems in any relationship, they always come from both sides, not only from one. That’s why I’m skeptical about this interpretation.
@@WhatashameMaryJaneThat is literally not how the world always works. Would you apply the same logic to the Nazis and their many victims? This is not to say that what occurred during the holocaust is the same as what happened in Bosnia but you are very much holding onto this idea of trying to paint the conflict as a conflict of all sides. There were crimes on both sides but the Bosnian Serb politics of the 90s and currently seek to deny and eliminate the Bosniaks. The crimes that were committed by Bosnians Serbs were part of a deliberate and concrete plan that Serbia and Bosnian Serb Politicians had- it was not just individuals doing bad things but a literal plan. They deny that Bosnia is a country with a similar history as Serbia and Croatia and has existed for thousands of years. It does not fit into their narrow view of a nation state is. I’m not sure what has contributed to this view you hold onto. The goal of that war from both the serbs and croats in the begging was a homogenous country where they ruled. We also do not all think the same - coming from someone who is 50/50 Bosnian and Serb- 100% Bosnian. It’s frustrating because we have our own people actively continuing the politics of the 90s we do not need outsiders doing the same. Especially ones who are ignorant on the subject. You yourself say that you are not fully educated on the history and your interpretations are not fully formed so why make a video on the history of the place?! Id be embarrassed. You should’ve done a video of your experience as a tourist or waited until you knew enough to make a video…
And Croats or Albanians don’t want all to live in one country? Who was fighting in Mostar? Are you so blind not to see Albanian nationalism.
Blaming just one side is the reason why we still have a problem!
International community allowed only REPUBLIC borders to become new countries even though they where not historical nor followed ethnic lines. Note that Kosovo and Metohija where. NOT the Republic, and was never Kosovo independent country but territories of Serbia except during the NAZI and Ottoman’s occupation.
Serbia was the only republic which had 40% of Serbs living outside the Serbia proper.
Finally 😊
Looks amazing. 23:49 domani 😅
You are mercilessly underpaid, great job.
❤️❤️❤️+
Bello Mary Jane!!
And that last question is exactly the one I had and we talked about under your previous video. Pretty tough one. I guess the only way to solve this problem is to let history do its course and build, in the heart and soul of each person, a different, and higher, sentiment, which is neither of "nationalism" or "communism", but a true will to respect and help each other, for the better of everyone. Too hard to happen? Maybe, or maybe not. Time will tell (and, maybe, we won't be alive anymore, because history builds in times that are much longer than a human's life). Thank you for this video 🙏😊
Lovely
Sad to see a young Bosnian (ur friend...wonna be Serb) claiming that Bosnian language never existed but in fackt its the oldest one (p.s a bit of education and research never killed anybody),and beeing biast to one side of the story and not wanting to discuss a real truth what hapened in his city during 90s hmm maybe his ashamed of it.Anyways nice try of showing the beautifull Bosnia and a tip: try to hear the other side.
Bosnian language is “the oldest one”. So what language was spoken in Serbia, Croatia, Montenegro? Do we all speak Bosnian according to your logic?:)
countless sources can answer your question as i said research and not propaganda will clear ur mind + im not like the "friend" and im not denying that serbian nor croatinan existed im just pointing the fackts out witch are the truth eather u like it or not,witch u need to learn for ur self...have a good one@@cinoeye
Did you ask your host and guide, why Serbs bombed and destroyd all 16 Banja Luka mosques in 1993., and in Banjaluka it was not fights and battles? And you have complitely false info about "internal war". It was Serbian agression on independent country with help of Serbs. Serbs built dozens of concentration camps for Bosnian Muslims and committed genocide in Srebrenica. Of course, there is not a word about that in this video. And this is not politics. This is Bosnian reality. Today, when the whole civilized world is against Putin and on the side of Ukraine, Serbia and the Serbs are on Putin's side and approve of the aggression against Ukraine. Nothing strange for them, because it is in their blood.
Everyone knows that was civil war…yes Croatia and Serbia where partially involved…if they really attacked in full, you would not exist today…99% of soldiers where local Muslims, Serbs and Croats and 1% where volunteers from surrounding countries Or Mujahedins who fought for muslims.
Please refer to the wikipedia facts before telling the history about Bosnian language and history, first Bosnian dictionary was published by writer Muhamed Hevaji Uskufi Bosnevi in 1632 and first Serbian dictionary was published by Serbian linguist Vuk Karadžić in 1814, so please don't say that Bosnian is made from Serbo-Croatian language. I understand that your friend learned the history that way, but please check what international proven facts are saying. Thanks
Što je bilo prije dolaska Turaka,to prešućuješ, povijest za tebe počinje 1463 dolaskom Turaka.
@@antenekic4690 Nema šta da se prešućuje, fakti su fakti, en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_history_of_Bosnia_and_Herzegovina
a jel znas zasto OCA ZOVETE BABO ili po BABI 😁
Wikipedia 'facts' ????? You will not find 'international proven facts' on Wikipedia. Please check more reliable sources if you are serious. A good start would be books published by reputable publishers. (Not self-published vanity press)
I would like to cautiously point out that Wikipedia can be considered valid.
However, a certain complexity regarding political issues and interests is known, not only on Wikipedia.
I would also like to point out that it is difficult to represent a very complex situation and at the same time to represent the only true fact.
It is easier for people to believe than to know. About World War II I could ask my grandfather, my children only know what I believe my grandfather wanted to tell me.
I enjoyed this video quite a lot. I think you might had been able to dig even deeper and it would have remained compelling. There is a strong Bosnian population in St Louis and I encounter them regularly. They are well loved and respected. Thank you for adding additional insight.
Thank you! I tried to keep it concise for fear that most of the audience would have gotten bored. Thanks for encouraging me to dig deeper.
I’m America we often get a spun version of the truth. I often like to hear these stories from the people on the ground. Thank you.
@@WhatashameMaryJaneYou want to dig deeper ?
Bosnia and Herzegovina is a country of hatred, wars and divisions.
Country of different naratives about history.
Bosnian Muslim kid will be learned in the school that Bosnia never been Serbian, Bosnian Croat kid will learn in school that Bosnia was Croatian land and Serbs that Bosnia was Serbian land...
The last war was in 1992-95.
but for the last 28 years there has been a political war between Bosnian Serbs, Bosnian Croats and "Bosniaks".
Every day there is war in medias.
90% of population of Bosnia( Serbs,"Bosniaks" , Croats) feeling that is much more safe for them to be in any town in Italy,Germany,Poland ,
USA etc. than in towns of other ethnic group in Bosnia.
In Bosnia there is 3 worlds, invisible and visible borders.
In 1993., Bosnian Muslims changed their name from Muslims ( Bosnian Muslims) to Bosniaks.
Why? They want the world to think that they are natives of Bosnia and that Serbs and Croats came to his country (Serbs from Serbia and Croats from Croatia).
Of course that is not true.
First mention of Bosnia is from 10th century.
In that document of Byzantian Empire wrote:
" Bosnia is part of Serbia".
Since 1377. Bosnia was Kingdom.
Title of King of Bosnia was:
" Stephan Tvrtko I Kotromanic - king of Serbs, Bosnia, Primorje( area by Adriatic sea) and West Teritories( West of Bosnia)". But they will said and they will lying that king Tvrtko was not Serb. Tvrtko fought with other Serbs against Turks and Islamic faith.
This days they put monument of Tvrtko in Sarajevo, but thay didn't put his title " king of Serbs..." or cross on his coat of arms.
1463-1878. Ottoman ocuppation of Bosnia. Islam came in Bosnia.
Rulers of Bosnia in that time : Bosnian Muslims
( they called himself
"Turks " like Turks from Anatolia).
Victimes: Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats.
In that Ottoman period of Bosnia, Bosnian Muslim can kill or beat any Serb( Orthodox Christian) or Croat ( Chatolic Christian). Serbs or Croats don't have any right in that period.
1875-78.
Serbian upprising against Turks ( one of many). But this time Turks were kicked out from Bosnia and his rule will be changed by AustroHungary( chatolic empire).
1878-1918.
AustroHungary ruling with Bosnia.
1914-18. World War One:
Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Croats attacking and killing Bosnian Serbs. There was concentration camp for Serbs in Doboj.
1918. Serbian army liberated Bosnia and Yugoslavia.
Serbs created Kingdom of Serbs,Croats and Slovenes.
1941-45 World War Two
Again Bosnia Croats and Bosnian Muslims killing Serbs( genocide against Serbs,Jews,Romani people in WW2; at least 500 000 Serbs killed in Bosnia and Croatia by Croatian State and Bosnian Muslim nazis ).
1992.
Again, Croats and Bosnian Muslims together attacking Serbs
1993-94. Bosnian Muslims are in war with Bosnian Croats
1994. Peace agreement between Bosnian Muslims and Croats and they again together against Bosnian Serbs.
That is reason why in
one country ( Bosnia) with 3 ethnic groups(Serbs,Croats,
Bosnian Muslims(so called Bosniaks)) there is two entities:
-Republika Srpska( Serb Republic)
- Federation of B&H( Muslim and Croat federation)
But even that Federation is divided between Croatian and Bosnian Muslim areas( cantons).
Bosnia don't have one president.
There is 3 memebers of presidency:
Serb,Bosnian Muslim,Croat.
But Bosnian Muslims cheated Croats and they voted even for them who will be Croatian memeber. Bosnian Muslims choosed Croat which was member of Bosnian Muslim Army in 1990s.
How is that possible ?
There is about 1,5 mil.Bosnian Muslims in Federation of B&H and about 300 K Croats.
Census 1961.:
Serbs 43%
Bosnian Muslims 26%
Croats 22%
There was only one census since 1991.
That was Census 2013.
but there was cheats.
Bosnian Muslims said that they are 50,1 % of population (2013.).
They cheated.
They counted Bosnian Muslims which now living in EU,Germany,Austria,
Swiss etc.
In reality :
They are now about 45%, Serbs about 35% ,
Croats about 10% etc.
@@superdadmoney
That Bosnian Muslims from St.Louis spreading lies about Serbs since 1990s.
They are refugees.
They will said about war crimes by Serbs and will not said about war crimes against Serbs etc.
Bosnia and Herzegovina is a country of hatred, wars and divisions.
Country of different naratives about history.
Bosnian Muslim kid will be learned in the school that Bosnia never been Serbian, Bosnian Croat kid will learn in school that Bosnia was Croatian land and Serbs that Bosnia was Serbian land...
The last war was in 1992-95.
but for the last 28 years there has been a political war between Bosnian Serbs, Bosnian Croats and "Bosniaks".
Every day there is war in medias.
90% of population of Bosnia( Serbs,"Bosniaks" , Croats) feeling that is much more safe for them to be in any town in Italy,Germany,Poland ,
USA etc. than in towns of other ethnic group in Bosnia.
In Bosnia there is 3 worlds, invisible and visible borders.
In 1993., Bosnian Muslims changed their name from Muslims ( Bosnian Muslims) to Bosniaks.
Why? They want the world to think that they are natives of Bosnia and that Serbs and Croats came to his country (Serbs from Serbia and Croats from Croatia).
Of course that is not true.
First mention of Bosnia is from 10th century.
In that document of Byzantian Empire wrote:
" Bosnia is part of Serbia".
Since 1377. Bosnia was Kingdom.
Title of King of Bosnia was:
" Stephan Tvrtko I Kotromanic - king of Serbs, Bosnia, Primorje( area by Adriatic sea) and West Teritories( West of Bosnia)". But they will said and they will lying that king Tvrtko was not Serb. Tvrtko fought with other Serbs against Turks and Islamic faith.
This days they put monument of Tvrtko in Sarajevo, but thay didn't put his title " king of Serbs..." or cross on his coat of arms.
1463-1878. Ottoman ocuppation of Bosnia. Islam came in Bosnia.
Rulers of Bosnia in that time : Bosnian Muslims
( they called himself
"Turks " like Turks from Anatolia).
Victimes: Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats.
In that Ottoman period of Bosnia, Bosnian Muslim can kill or beat any Serb( Orthodox Christian) or Croat ( Chatolic Christian). Serbs or Croats don't have any right in that period.
1875-78.
Serbian upprising against Turks ( one of many). But this time Turks were kicked out from Bosnia and his rule will be changed by AustroHungary( chatolic empire).
1878-1918.
AustroHungary ruling with Bosnia.
1914-18. World War One:
Bosnian Muslims and Bosnian Croats attacking and killing Bosnian Serbs. There was concentration camp for Serbs in Doboj.
1918. Serbian army liberated Bosnia and Yugoslavia.
Serbs created Kingdom of Serbs,Croats and Slovenes.
1941-45 World War Two
Again Bosnia Croats and Bosnian Muslims killing Serbs( genocide against Serbs,Jews,Romani people in WW2; at least 500 000 Serbs killed in Bosnia and Croatia by Croatian State and Bosnian Muslim nazis ).
1992.
Again, Croats and Bosnian Muslims together attacking Serbs
1993-94. Bosnian Muslims are in war with Bosnian Croats
1994. Peace agreement between Bosnian Muslims and Croats and they again together against Bosnian Serbs.
That is reason why in
one country ( Bosnia) with 3 ethnic groups(Serbs,Croats,
Bosnian Muslims(so called Bosniaks)) there is two entities:
-Republika Srpska( Serb Republic)
- Federation of B&H( Muslim and Croat federation)
But even that Federation is divided between Croatian and Bosnian Muslim areas( cantons).
Bosnia don't have one president.
There is 3 memebers of presidency:
Serb,Bosnian Muslim,Croat.
But Bosnian Muslims cheated Croats and they voted even for them who will be Croatian memeber. Bosnian Muslims choosed Croat which was member of Bosnian Muslim Army in 1990s.
How is that possible ?
There is about 1,5 mil.Bosnian Muslims in Federation of B&H and about 300 K Croats.
Census 1961.:
Serbs 43%
Bosnian Muslims 26%
Croats 22%
There was only one census since 1991.
That was Census 2013.
but there was cheats.
Bosnian Muslims said that they are 50,1 % of population (2013.).
They cheated.
They counted Bosnian Muslims which now living in EU,Germany,Austria,
Swiss etc.
In reality :
They are now about 45%, Serbs about 35% ,
Croats about 10% etc.
@@WhatashameMaryJaneI forgot to say:
In Bosnia, when you on mountains or forests , don't go out of roads or pathes because mines. 99% land is safe but strangers don't know where been borders between armies in time of war.
There is safe and not so safe forests and mountains.
You can go where locals go !
The capital city of entity rs is Sarajevo, dont confuse people even more.
Bello
The reason why the guy did not want to discuss the politics is because his people ( Serbs) did genocide and ethnically cleansed their territory. In that city that you visited (Banja Luka) which was predominately Bosniak before the war they destroyed every single mosque which were the landmarks of the city and not is probably 99% Serb.
No it wasn't Bosniak, stop spreading Bosniak propaganda. There were population censuses in Yugoslavia and every time Serbs were majority in Banja Luka.
Serbs were even majority in whole Bosnia before WW2, but Bosniak population boom (since Muslims have more children) as well as genocide against Serbs in WW2 resulted in shift of population.
Bosniaks are terrorising whole Bosnia with the canceling of freedom of speech, but luckily Serbs and Croats carved their own part where they don't need to listen to your bullshit on a daily basis.
Please stop lie, Bosnian muslims werent majority in Banjaluka ever, everybody did crimes in war not just Serbs, not to mention how many genocides muslims from Bosnia did against the Serbs with Otoman Turks through out the centuries, Serbs and Croats were majority 200 yrs ago before you took Islam, and thats ok but stop pushing your agenda and find a way to live together with Serbs and Croats before they decide to leave Bosnia and from their own republics
@@SimarilionValarski Yes everybody did crimes but you committed vast majority if tem. Your whole leadership was convicted, you did crimes systematically and with passion. You destroyed over 600 mosques alone, you destroyed graveyards and made parking lots on top of it. The Siege of Sarajevo resulted in over 11,000 people killed, of which 1,600 were just children. Serbs raped over 30,000 woman these are the facts. In Visegrad Serbs barricaded 70 civilians in one house , mostly woman and children and burned them alive.........If Anyone has agenda its you who celebrate and glorify mass graves, genocide etc. I said that the "the city was predominately Bosniak which it was especially culturally. How many genocides Bosniaks commited, named me one where Bosniaks solely commited genocide against anyone??? Ottomans ruled 500 years and if they licked you, you would disappear just like ice cream.
Learn the definition of genocide before sprouting garbage
@@datboi5325 Serbs and Croats did not even existed in Bosnia until 1850's With the help of pagan Serb Orthodox Church (SPC) which took a role of serbinizing all the Orthodox population, same think did the idol worshiping Catholic church with Catholics .Ilija Garašanin in 1844 in "Načertanija":
"Bosniaks of Mohammedan, Bosniaks catholic and Bosniaks of our Orthodox faith live in Bosnia" In 1825, the first issue of the Chronicles of The Mother Land of Serbia sees ONLY AND EXCLUSIVELY in Bosnia, Bosniaks "who confess either Islam, or are Roman Catholics or Orthodox"
Since you’ve asked about our opinion on your last part…while history always plays a part of current occurrences it is really dangerous to say that the war of the 90s is based on ancient ethnic hatreds. The war of the 90s was a war of aggression onto Bosnia both by Serbia and Croatia and by internal groups as well. They wanted land and power. It is simple as that.
I’m educating myself further on the topic and I did understand the problem of connecting these contrasts to the ethnicity while watching some videos by the channel “Balkan Odyssey”, which I recommend to those who want to learn about this area.
Civil war and not aggression.
How can Serbs be agressors in their own house ?
Serbs living in Bosnia 1500 years. Muslims are Islamized Serbs and Croats. That is fact.
what was the reason for the aggression into bosnia - yes power and land and to get to the ugly truth to get rid of the muslim population - the muslims copped the hatred from both sides - what is the reason for this level of hate and racism ??
@@WhatashameMaryJane It's very nice too hear that someone wants too see and here more about the world around us. I propose you a shortcut to here much more from a person whom everybody likes to listen - prof emeritus Besim Spahić. He is from Sarajevo, but I believe that he lives in Ljubljana, SLO now. He speaks Italian. In a half an hour common people like us can learn a lot. If hou have some friend to translate from Bosnian into Italian, go ahead czcams.com/video/Y8ohaZYuQ68/video.htmlsi=zE8kdfIgUTbC7qfU
@@WhatashameMaryJane whether it was ancient ethnic hatreds or not. It wrong to treat Women and children, some as young as 12 years old, were detained and raped, vaginally, anally and orally; subjected to gang rapes, forced to dance nude with weapons pointed at them, and even enslaved.....
I enjoyed the report, especially since I've never been to this country and I am very ignorant about the history of the conflict. Since you did not specify who actually bombed the church, I shall clarify that it was the Nazis.
Also, from Wikipedia:
The Cathedral of Christ the Saviour (Serbian: Саборни Храм Христа Спаситеља, romanized: Saborni Hram Hrista Spasitelja) is a Serbian Orthodox church located in Banja Luka, Republika Srpska, Bosnia and Herzegovina.[1]
A Holy Trinity Church was built during interwar Yugoslavia in the center of Banja Luka. The construction of the church took from 1925 to 1929, and was solemnly consecrated on the Day of Salvation in 1939. During the German bombing on April 12, 1941, the church was hit and the altar section (apse) was significantly damaged. In May of the same year, the Ustashas declared the church a "mound of the city" and ordered the Serbs, Jews and Roma to completely demolish it, brick by brick.
During the time of the communist government in Yugoslavia, while many buildings were rebuilt, the demolished Cathedral was not allowed to be reconstructed. During the Bosnian war, Eparchy of Banja Luka was granted permission for the destroyed church to be rebuilt, and the monument to fallen soldiers was moved to a nearby site, also owned by the church. The erection of the new church began in 1993 when the foundations were consecrated. This solemn act was performed by Serbian Patriarch Pavle with the bishops and clergy of the Serbian Orthodox Church. The church was rebuilt under the name of the Cathedral of Christ the Saviour, because, in the meantime, another church consecrated in the name of the Holy Trinity has been built in Banja Luka (1963-1969), as a memorial to the demolished one, which the Orthodox Serbs thought they would never be able construct again.
The cathedral is built of red and yellow travertine stone, originating from Mesopotamia, whose quality (excavation and processing) is certified by Prof. Dr. Bilbija, an expert from the Belgrade Institute for Material Testing. It is built with a three-layer wall: stone, reinforced concrete, brick. The domes are covered with golden stainless steel, brought from Siberia. Exterior construction work on the temple was completed on September 26, 2004, when the first liturgy was also celebrated. The liturgy was celebrated by 8 bishops with the clergy and deacons of the Diocese of Banja Luka, with the presence of tens of thousands of believers.
The present church is architecturally identical[citation needed] to the previous one and is the tallest religious building in Banja Luka, with a bell tower 47 meters high and a 22.5 meter dome. The Bishop's Temple was consecrated by Bishop Ephrem on Salvation Day in 2009.[2]
On the occasion of the 20th anniversary of the founding and celebration of the Day of Republika Srpska, Patriarch Irinej celebrated the Holy Blessed Liturgy in the church on January 9, 2012.
Banja Luka was an important Croatian town during WW2 now its the "Serbian Capital" of the Serb part of Bosnia. What happened to the Croatian population of the town?
Talk to Bunnymon she’s from this area of the world. She grew up in London and England but moved to Germany. Basically she and her family can’t go back to Bosnia and Herzegovina because of the violence and atrocities committed there. She’s knows it’s impossible to go back now. Honestly her parents are afraid to step foot in there again. She actually still has an accent from there somehow. It’s a struggle still for political power just to get something done. There are three presidents that don’t ever agree which further delays the work that needs to get done. It’s just ridiculous that nothing is ever done. In New York you get a number of families like that who earned political asylum due to war and you really can’t pick them out. They might be a bit twitchy at things at first but once they settle down then realization hits of they can’t go back ever again. Talk to Cash Jordan again as he’s been noticing the Mexicans coming in hard and trying to figure out shelter for them especially since he works in real estate. You know NYC’s policies on this migration crisis are just getting bad. I believe an enclave of Bosnia and Herzegovina is somewhere in nyc possibly in queens.
Lets not talk about politic because we my hurt feeling of people who support their genocide agenda of republic Srpska.
Samo su srbi oreziveli dva genocoda i niko vise na ovim prostorima. Naravno jevreji i jermeni isto a i rusi su mnogo stradali od vasih tvoraca
Excellent video! For an even deeper dive into the nationalism question from the context of this region, I found the channel Balkan Odyssey to have great content. The content creator even put out a segment titled “How I went from Nationalist to Marxist” which touches on his personal journey.
Excellent recommendation! I just watched this video czcams.com/video/zxnsU1lasls/video.html from the channel Balkan Odyssey and found the whole presentation informative, well balanced and constructive. I learned that some people want the country to split, I did not know that, although it was imaginable now that I think about it. I will keep watching other videos from that great channel, thank you so much for sharing!
Ciao carissima ...io l inglese lo capisco cosi cosi...I tuoi video sono interessantissimi...per favore puoi attivare o rendere disponibili i sottotitoli?..Grazie ancora e saluti da Padova Padova
Ciao! Se si pazienta un paio di giorni CZcams metterà a disposizione la traduzione automatica dei sottotitoli. Purtroppo inserire i sottotitoli a mano è un lavoro che prende molto tempo e non riesco a farlo per tutti i video. Al momento lo sto facendo per i video di vicino/lontano quindi non lo farò per questo qui.
@@WhatashameMaryJane Grazie....😘🇮🇹
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Of course, you did not have a good experience you went to Banja Luka that’s like visiting Russia town Vladimir Putin posters everywhere
Is it just me who things they're so cute together? Ok I'm new here, not know the politics in this group/channel... :)) came here to learn more on the fact on them (Bosnia&Hertzegovina) having 2/3 different versions of history... saw a documentary on that on vice or a channel like this n thought to write abt how history s writen (in big) n to mention that & now I need to back that up... so here I am... not sure yet if this 1 s gonna help me tho... :)) ...
BTW who calls it how?? I mean of the 3 nationalities??
Regarding language-The name of the languages are political creation. dialects are spread out geographically not by ethnicity. For example people in Croatia-Zagreb, Rijeka, Split…or Serbia-Beograd, Novi Sad, Niš…all have distinct accent of the region and some words. Same goes for Bosnia-Mostar, Banja Luka, Sarajevo-every city different accent … so if someone from Banja Luka hers someone from Sarajevo ….or someone from Zagreb or Belgrade hears someone from Sarajevo-they will instantly recognize where they are from(and vice versa). But Serb from Sarajevo will claim he speaks Serbian, Muslim-Bosnian, and Croat-Croatian.
There is more difference between Italian spoken in Milano , Lugano (Ch)and Napoli, or German in Berlin, Vienna and Zurich(Ch) then there is a difference between the Languages of Serbian, Croatian, Bosnian, Montenegrin…and in Bosnia there is even less difference and again it is regional…heck its houses next to each other and they claim it’s different languages!
Bosnia 🇧🇦⚜️🇧🇦🌏 SARAJEVO
Modern Banja Luka is to thanks to Trapist monks for her development. You should talk aboat Marija Zvijezda monestery and its history.
Your friend dont talk what happens muslim in Banjaluka
7:09 when the guy said that Bosnianks / Muslims didn’t have their own language is wrong
At some point, in history, everyone in this region had their time to dominate or rule
Example: there was a time when most of this region was Bosnia, and language spoken was Bosnian and so was the alphabet
Serbs and Croats also had their time, so did Macedonians, Illyrians, and Dalmatians and so on
The point is. This are in fact, the same Slavic people, speaking Slavic languages, with some differences, who are divided by religion.
Some political parties, in all 3 ethnic groups, usually supported by the western countries, are promoting and willing to somehow, take their people back in time when they thrived
This is yo make sure, the conflict is always on, and there is no room for pice
Shameful and sad
Reading comments:
When two truths lead to war, two reasons remain.
Viele Kommentare sprechen für ein sehr begrenztes Bild, auf die Welt als Ganzes.
Schwierig, das Karma in den Kommentaren. Ich merke wie mich die Stimmung einfängt und einen dunklen Schatten wirft, auf mein Wohlbefinden.
Ich hoffe meine Kommentare waren hilfreich. Ich merke wie das Lesen mich emotional aufwühlt, deswegen warte ich erstmal auf deine nächste Veröffentlichung. LG
Yes my poor wounded homeland is very complex with a lot of scars and violence and anger and still it is beautiful too.
About 3 ethnic groups - they are just tribes of one common people. Their current identities are very shallow and thin, so it is covered with aggression to hide those huge identity holes. All south east Europe, all the way till Greece and Turkey has this issue of very vague and shallow national identities. Balkans was ruled by complex multinational societies for millennia so there was no historical continuity to stabilize those national identities... In Bosnia this situation is extreme. Still country is culturally very homogeneous, again more than neighboring Croatia or Serbia.
About language: it is one language, Serbo-Croatian, its peak or classical period was in the 80s in Yugoslavia. Language was standardized in 19 century in very modern way. It is per design Lingua Franca in this region and does not respect any former or current political borders too. It is used as weapon from nationalistic circles especially in Croatia and Serbia.
About current political mess: it is result of frozen conflict and corruption of international organizations. The hard truth is that all power in the country is still in the hand of nationalistic groups that took power with force during war time anarchy. They will never give power away without forcing them out. The hard truth is also that those 3 ethnic groups do not own this land. In short Bosnia is more then sum of those 3.
Anyway you might do not agree with me, that is ok, but I know my land. Ps. My father is Bosnian Croat, my mother is Serbian and I grew in majority Bosniak town...so i know them all inside out and many people like me do not like current forced system in which you must belong to only one small ethnic tribe...
Are you saying that the current political groups are forcing the nationalistic mindset into the general way of thinking?
I loved your comment. Respectful, humble, informed. Thank you for contributing to the conversation.
@@WhatashameMaryJane "Are you saying that the current political groups are forcing the nationalistic mindset into the general way of thinking? " - yes I do. Political system here is build in a way to cement divisions, impose fears of "others" and make easier way to monopolize political and economic power by ruling nationalistic leaders and froze results of a war since in that way power grab is secured. It is an ugly topic I am afraid.
"Identity holes" ?
" vague and shallow national identity" ?
Serbs don't have that problem.
@@KraljStefan-ey3bo yeah sure...
@@ivicaanic5213
Yeah, for sure.
Yours problems are not our problems.
We can show what Latins, Franks,Greeks wrote about Serbs before 2000 years, 1000 years,800 years etc.
Nice video, and your friend seems nice and and reasonable. As you tell the story of the cathedral, you should tell the story of its mosque, and of its Muslims. There was no war at all in Banja Luka. Only genocide and ethnic cleansing.
It would be nice if you visited a village called Stivor. Basically that place was colonized by Italians 150 years ago and some Italians do still live there. Stivor is really close to Banja Luka.
Great video, it should be shown at school. I'll share the link to my ex colleagues
Wtf?? Why didnt you go to old part of town? Names Seher? Why didnt you see oldest house of Banja Luka? Why didnt you go to termal water in old part of Banja Luka? Your friend didnt show you old town of Banja Luka because its Bosniaks part of town..with authentical Bosnian archiceture.. Es ist eine Schande das dir dein "Freund" kein Seher (Altstadt) von Banja Luka gezeigt hat, warscheinich weil das Stadtteil Bosnische architektur hat)..Wieso hast du nicht etwas besser recherchiert ?? 1918 wurde das Land von Bosniaken entwendet und an die serbische Soldaten aus Serbien verteilt. Bosniaken wurden vertrieben..
Sheher-Turkush word…authentic “Bosnian” architecture-Ottoman. Is there anything you Bosniak made before the Ottomans? Or everything from religion, words, names…that is truly Bosniak is Ottoman? So those things are more “Bosnian” for you then things that are built by Bosnian Croats and Serbs? I would like to hear your answer?:)
@@cinoeye In Bosnien lives "Bogumili" (google=stecci) before are Ottomans come to Bosnia, and Ottomans brought Vlachs (Serbs) (google =Vlachs Bosnia) from Serbia/Romania to Bosnia. BOGUMILI / Bosniaks are old Bosnian people who lives in Bosnia between Croatien and Serbia.. In Banja Luka is first Serbian church build 1939 (84 years ago) and oldest Mosque in Banja Luka is build 1528 ;)
Shame on you Mary Jane . Too many controversial statements I’ve heard in this video. . BTW , you’ve definitely picked up wrong person who is not compatible with your questions because he himself is not informed enough and not well educated to be your tour guide. Next time visit the International War Crime Court in Den Hague so you can get the facts . They’ll give everything you want to know what happened from 1992-1996
I think you should be shamed because you expect her to take sides. And she was just neutral.
@@cinoeye you wrong, you know that. She can’t ask questions without getting the right answers. Avoid the truth is taking sides. Think about that. I definitely don’t want her to take a side but at least I want her to get real and truthful answers. Getting wrong info from the person who is not truthful is definitely wrong doing.
They're mostly a slavicised population not real 'Slavs' whatever that means from Poland and beyond.
Wtf are you talking about?
Not to offend your friend and you, but the Bosnian language is the oldest language! This can easily be checked on the Internet. Your friend is young so he doesn't know or won't know. all the best
Bosnian language is the oldest ? 😂😂
@@KraljStefan-ey3bo da da Kralju procitaj a ne slusaj
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@@KikoDriver
Samo ime "bosanski jezik" je falsifikovanje istorije
@@KraljStefan-ey3bo glup si druze ti za ove stvari
Mary Jane, this is not for you. You left Banja Luka and Bosnia urgent. This is best what you can to do for tour safety.
You looks beautiful in this intro
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This is the biggest genocide in Balkan history ! Genocide against Serbs,Jews, Romani people .
Very nice and educational video.
I like your style, must say. 😊
Smog in the air is mostly related to the way of heating houses (wood or coal).
It is not about cars or anything else.
The air is much better in the summer.
Few sentences about politics,...
First, when Germany is strong, we have problems on the Balkans.
"Divide et impera!"
We are the same people.
Language is 100% the same.
Only problem is the religion, as the instrument of manipulation from the abroad.
And of course, our politicans are totally corupted criminals.
And also, you can't avoid impact of the corporative capital which make parliamentary democarcy impossible, not just in Balkans, but all over the world.
Mary Jane. You are right with the conclusion that nationalism led to wars in the Balkans, including in Bosnia and Herzegovina. However, it should be said that Serbia attacked Croatia in 1991 and Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1992, trying to create a "Greater Serbia" that would include all the states where the Serbian minority lives, and all non-Serbs had to be eliminated from those areas. With the help of local rebels, Serbia managed to commit the biggest crimes seen in Europe since WWII. war. BiH was the most multicultural of all the Slavic countries in the Balkans. There were no areas where a single people of a certain nationality lived, but everything was very mixed. Serbia, with the help of local nationalists and pro-fascists, expelled and killed all the non-Serb population from half of the territory of Bosnia and Herzegovina and decided to annex it to Serbia or, at the very least, to create a separatist state resulting from the ethnic cleansing from which today's so-called "Republika Srpska". Your friend did not tell you that in Banja Luka, Serbian nationalists blew up two mosques Centuries old and damaged Catholic church. Of course, after the genocide committed by the Serbs in Srebrenica and in the area of BiH where they were in the majority, there were revenge crimes by Muslims (Bosniaks) and Bosnian Croats. However, we should not forget that the war in the Balkans was started by Serbia led by Slobodan Milosevic. Serbia and the local nationalists who supported it in Croatia and BiH committed almost all war crimes, but that does not mean that we should also forget the crimes of Muslims and Croats, among whom there were individuals who committed crimes in revenge against aggression. As for Tito, he was a real "wizard" who managed to extinguish all nationalisms and if he had remained alive, there would have been no wars in the territory of the former Yugoslavia. He was a Croat, but he advocated that, like the Americans, all those living in Yugoslavia should be primarily Yugoslavs, and in private they could be whatever they wanted. His departure and the fall of communism led to the emergence of nationalism. It is Serbia that did not allow the republics that made up it to become independent or the federation to turn into a confederation. Instead, Serbia tried to use the breakup of Yugoslavia to create a "Greater Serbia", which according to the imagined plan would include all areas except Slovenia, and no one but Serbs would live in those areas. The ethnic cleansing they committed was on an unprecedented scale. Normally, there were revenge crimes on the side of those who defended themselves, as happens in all wars. Your video is good, but the topic is too complex to be explained simply, even though it is simple when you think about it.
It's clear why they agreed NOT to discuss the sensitive topics from the beginning. It must be awkward for the young Serbs to admit the crimes of their Genocidal fathers and uncles.
Man should always admit the truth to himself. But I understand, even if he wanted to tell the truth, he still lives in that environment where he can be blamed for what he said, even if it was all the truth.
@@moose1485
Yes, but we must learn to let go of our past in order to find our way to a peaceful common future.
I mean all human beings. We have been fighting wars for thousands of years.
We must see our past as closed, we cannot change what has happened.
If we continue to carry our warlike past into the future, our conflicts will cause more atrocities.
Let us look to a common future, forgive our mothers and fathers for their mistakes, and do better than our ancestors could.
@@Qwerty8 Sure, that sounds good... Now go to the Genocidal Serbs and tell them the same thing. You see Serbs were and are still the aggressor and ready to repeat their Genocide and Ethnic Cleansing in this very moment. They never even admitted to Genocide and never paid war reperations. They refuse to and say we are liars and are making up the Genocide. They say we murdered our own children and then blame it on them. If that is not a profoundly sick and Serb Genocidal people then nothing is.
The Serbian goal is not peace, it is hate, muder, rape and destruction of anything that is Bosnia. Did you notice all the Serbian flags in her video? why Serb flags in another country? The flag is just one part of the Serbian Aggression... Or when her friend refers to Bosnians as "They", yeah he is the same gargabe as his Genocidal family. They want to only hate and kill. They have no other goal in life. It's part of their Orthodox Church teachings.
I think that the reason for the recurrence of wars and conflicts is exactly the opposite. We should learn from history and not forget it. There is a proverb "History is the teacher of life". Each of us must be aware of our own sins and the sins of the nation to which we belong. That's why I said that everyone must admit the truth to themselves, and preferably publicly to others. Only facing the truth leads to solutions for the future. Today, the biggest opponents of fascism and Nazism are precisely the Germans and Austrians. While in the Balkans, hardly anyone ends up in prison because of Nazi slogans or symbols, in Germany, Austria and other countries that have faced their past, such cases are drastically punished and that is why there are significantly fewer such cases. The past should not be forgotten by any means, but should be faced with it, learn something from it and move forward into the future with this knowledge.
@@Qwerty8
The destruction of the Serbian cathedral was well covered but no mention whatsoever of the 40+ mosques destroyed by the Serbs?? Better research sorely needed.
This was a vlog about Banja Luka, so I focused on the facts that I encountered there. Did the event you mention related to Banja Luka as well?
Yes. 40+ mosques destroyed in Banja Luka@@WhatashameMaryJane
@@dennismurphy9957 I’ll try to read about it, thanks.
She is a sympathizer of the Bosnian Serb politics…she makes a video on Banja Luka…hopefully did research but just did not see any information about this? Something is not adding up
@@ioardI believe she is sympathetic primarily with humanity. Next time, there will be another destination.
Judging because of a tiny portion of her work would be not fair, don’t you think?
*...never forget Genocide in Srebrenica...*
Since the creation of Yugoslavia, the Bosnian language and nationality were banned, we got nationality as Muslim which is ridiculous. Serbo-Croatian the language does not exist, books printed either in Croatian or Serbian. We all Bosnians speak the same language, Bosnia has the oldest dictionary before neighboring countries had. We got the name Bosnia and Herzegovina in 1878, before that it was just Bosnia. Serbs in bosnia says: lijep, grah, mlijeko, kuhano which they dont do in Serbia. How can your friend lie Muslims had no language. Dobrica Ćosić, writer, member of SANU, former president of the state, "father of the Serbian nation", wrote the following: "We lie to deceive ourselves, to comfort another; we lie out of pity, we lie out of shame, to encourage, to hide our misery, we lie for honesty. We lie for freedom. A lie is a form of Serbian patriotism and a confirmation of our innate intelligence. We lie creatively, imaginatively, inventively." "A lie is a Serbian national interest." "Lie is in the very being of Serbs". "In this country, every lie eventually becomes the truth." "Serbs have been saved by lies so many times in history..."
You are liar. Dobrica Cosic is born 1925.
He is not father of Serbian nation and he never said that.
You Muslims and Croats took that words from one book and put more fake words to creat such big lie.
So we Croats, Serbs and Montenegrins all speak “Bosnian “ language?! The same way Germans speak Austrian, Spanish Argentinian and people in Uk Australian language;)
@@cinoeye It's very small difference, we understand each other and the same family. What I mean is that we who live in Bosnia speak the same language, you can hear from several miles he from Bosnia in the way he speaks. Bosnia and Croatia almost identical language, but the dialect differs. Austria is German the dont say Austrian, Argentina do speak Spanish, Australian do speak english. You cant say Serbs from Bosnia speak Serbian or Serbs from Kroatia speak Serbian. I was in Bosnia this summer when some speak to me I cant hear he is Croat or Serb, The only time I knew he wasnt Muslim was that he had a big cross on his chest, it just accept where you live is the language you speak. Why created nationalism of all everything
The only difference between so called Serbs-Croats-Bosniaks is. “Religion” and religion based cultural norms. All these people are basically the same. All else if anyone tells is just political narratives.
Look at these 6 episodes of the show "Death of Yugoslavia" as a basis for further research. You will see that the aggression of Milošević and Serbia with the help of the JNA against Croatia and BiH was a prelude to the war. As the aggressor and the best-armed party in the conflict, Serbia committed by far the most crimes, and as in every war, there was revenge for that aggression in the form of individual revenge crimes. All republics except Serbia and Montenegro exercised their constitutional right and received great support for the declaration of independence in the referendum. Serbia tried to use the breakup of Yugoslavia to create a greater Serbia, which would include part of Croatia and BiH in addition to Serbia. Of course, no one wanted to accept that, and that's how the war came about. czcams.com/play/PLdw7wnKe0wiUSNdugFGpnSfm6wt-9gvUt.html
Šupak, bosanski jezik je pravo ime jezika kojim govoriš
Your friend is a liar. Serbian language didn’t exist before 1856. and Serbian Cerilic is alphabet called “ Bosnacica “ with 5 added letters from Russian cerilic and they renamed it Cerilic. Croatian language didn’t exist at all before 1943! From 8th century all the way to 19zh centuries the Books are written in Bosnian language. Ask your friend to tell your the truth!!
You believe there is one and only truth, to which I highly disagree. If that was the case these matters wouldn’t be so complicated. Everyone has its own perspective, so can see some things while others are hidden. Each one of us has its own truth, we should be willing to expand our perspective in order to uncover those things that we don’t know yet. Let’s learn more about our rival’s perspective, let’s be open to the idea that we can always only have a partial truth.
@@WhatashameMaryJane When your rival is trying to kill you are you wanting to know their perspective? You are a sympathizer from all these comments i see you’re leaving as a reply
Ok so what language did the people of Serbia speak before 1856? Where did you get you linguistics degree? At the booze shop in Kakanj?;)
@@WhatashameMaryJanehe got his linguistic degree in front of local booze store;)
All Serbs, Russians etc use cirilic and its created by Bulgaria so it is funny to me when they say serbian cirilic, russian cyrilic which is 98 % the same letters as Bulgarian.
There is no cathedrala in orthodox ,its called temple. Cathedral is Catholic expression/building even though cathedral is build in the form of the temple.
There is Cathedral if the Bishop resides and serves there.
Marija, there are no three ethnic group there. They are completely same people, same DNA, same language, same culture and habits... (all of them are able to use both Latin and Cyrillic letters (but someone told them that Cyrillic is Serbian, so Croats and Moslems don't like to use it)
The only difference is religion, Serbs are of orthodox, Croats catholic and Moslems are of Islam believe. But all of them have their national(istic) leaders who are actually installed puppets whose task is to widen the gap and to deepen the rift. Fortunately for the common people, youngsters are bridging those gaps, despite all of political efforts to cement those "differences".
When you mention the building if a church in BL you should look into the the demographics of banja luka in its history. Serb Orthodox were not plentiful in that region of bosnia prior to ottoman empire… Also, Yugoslavia was a socialist country and while they did not band religion none of the religions were state supported. I honestly think your friend has instilled some bias onto you
The church history was not told by my friend, who barely mentioned it because we walked by. I learned about it from other sources and from a brochure that you can find linked in the description of this video.
@@WhatashameMaryJane I understand. I meant generally as there is a lot of bias not that the information came from him.
Banjaluka was always bosnian city but unfortunately because of strong influence from serbian church and their ultra-chauvinists which is very oriented to steel Bosnia and make it to be a part of so called “great Serbia”.
Bosnian language pre-exists so called serbian and croatian because there are many official documents written in Bosnian much before the other two even existed!
In all truth bosnian ortodox people were ALWAYS Bosnianks ordotox,never Serbs but from the end of 19th century they started from Serbia a huge propaganda in order to make Bosniaks ortodox feel “as Serbs” which is simply not natural because even in Serbia today,they are called Bosanci (same thing as Bosniaks) and everyone knows that.
Anyways it is a big story not enough room and space here to explain…
I thank you for visiting Bosnia and go to see the bosnian pyramids in Visoko thats a huge Paradise on Earth 👍🖐
Grazzie
7:15 Bosnians always had their own language BOSNIAN and what do you mean nobody ever complained? You don't know that first because you are a serb and you read and hear what you want to, by being selective, and not what the actual truth is. During Yugoslavia we Bosniaks (muslims) could not express our religious practices. We were just "other" people, shut down and they hoped they could eradicate all of us during the war. We know Europe does not want us, but we are here in Bosnia & Hercegovina and we will be here for centuries to come. So, stop the lies. Just so typical of you! I cannot continue watching this as it started with lies.
You are also spreading lies. We all speak one language named differently. That is the important thing here…we are also all ethnicity but divided by religion. Do you really believe it is possible that 100% of each ethnic group adopted different religion?! That is simply not possible. It was the other way around-religion determined ethnicity and the so called languages .
Wow what a "historian" ???!!!!
I am not here just to criticize as I like your videos, but how come your friend from Banja Luka didn’t explain to you that during the war between Serbia and Bosnia, the war wasn’t in Banja Luka city, yet all 16 Banja Luka’s mosques has been destroyed in peace as well as 55% of its former population bosniaks and Bosnian Croats being expelled!? How come he didn’t explain to you about the UNESCO listed mosque FERHADIJA which was built five hundred years ago (near by that Christian orthodox cathedral which was built just in 1939) was destroyed in 1993 by Serbs separatists and even tried to prevent rebuilding it from the same bricks and materials in 2001? He forgotten all of that or didn’t want to mention… Banja Luka through out the history has never been Serbs majority populated city. Lately it is because of ethnic cleansing and war crimes. By the way, Ferhadija mosque was built I think in 1575. It’s just there…and he couldn’t show it to you.
It's hard to tell whether it was the rise of nationalism or the oppression that caused the war in Former Yugoslavia.
In other words, what came first, the nationalism or cultural oppression?
People always knew who they were, ie. which group they belonged to, but that couldn't be easily or freely expressed at times under the former Communist system which was controlled by Tito, and the communist party.
Combine that with rise of nationalism, particularly from the Serbs after Tito died - to see clear evidence of that, just look up Slobodan Milosevic, and what do you get?
Place begins to blow up, that's what happens.
What you see today is a result of the two; nationalism, and oppression. One can even argue that this is what the place should have been all the time, ie., three distinct groups, and nations, rather than force people to live under a Serbian King between WW1 and WW2, and after that under the Communist Party.
Forcing people to live under a system, whatever that system might be, has a limited life span, if the people don't ultimately want it. Sometimes the change happens peacefully, sometimes it doesn't.
Nice video, though.
To add a bit more...
You say Tito was able to keep the three groups together, actually more if you include the Slovenians, and the Macedonians.
Very true, he was.
But, how did he do that?
Largely by force, and often by bloody force.
A lot of people died in former Yugoslavia for saying the wrong thing. The lucky few spent a few night in jail with lead pipes wrapped around the their heads, the less fortunate enough permanently disappeared.
Along the same lines, Europe is a very old continent with lots and lots of history, many different people living there. Different people, different identities, different ideas. Even with the EU around, people still like to identify themselves as French, Spanish, German, Italian, Dutch, and so on.
Frankly, I hope that never changes as we should remember who we are, and where we come from.
The New World is different (USA, Canada), but we still interject our nationalism into our lives even here.
Considering that 1977 was the last time the guillotine was used in France, Star Wars was released in 1977.
In Switzerland, women have had the right to vote nationwide since 1990.
It is 2023 and Nazism is once again a political reality in Europe.
We can change today's problems, can't we?
@@apscoradiales you are funny. Maybe if the Quint would have let our countries be, it would be all good. Maybe if the roman Empire, the Ottoman Empire, Austro-Hungarian Empire....would let us be, it would be all good. Then came Fascists to our countries....Nazi, Croat-Ustasha, Italian, Chetnik-Serb. What would we be without Tito? Oppressed again by these fascists. Please stop talking shit about tito and Yugoslavia! He freed us from fascists.
You are wrong about 75% of your "trying to get " what wrong about BiH. Best greets from Banjaluka .
When the Ottomans came to Bosnia in 16. century there were only CATHOLIC Croatians in Bosnia. There were NO any Orthodox serbians at that time. The Orthodox serbians came to B0osniaas conquerors TOGETHER with the Ottomans conquerors!
thank you.. I wrote on one other your videos more les my situation... I am born in banjaluka(novadays street name djure danicica. lit the centre of the town)... this is my love and my people... I am muslim (jebiga moj deda birao otomane onda) I am living in london and its so so so great to see this vid... ps gregor hvala ti... I dont go to speak about politics... I just go to say I miss BOSKA, GOSPOPDSKA ULICA, ZANATSKI CENTAR, ABACIJU and so many more things... ps I remember in my school back than (1992) we learn one week cirilica one week latinica... and i love both alphabet or to say azbuka...stupid politic destoyed us and brouth a lots of Banjalucana to far from home countries... the last I WISH TO SAY IS>>> FALI MI STEVANA BULAJICA 52, FALI MI NASA SALA I NAS HUMOR, FALE MI NASI LJUDI (NISAM NACIONALISTA) FALI MI LJEPOTA BANJALUKE... LOVE TO ALL OF YOU
Great video and thanks for presenting Banja Luka from tourist perspective
History of Bosnia is really complex, one could study it for a lifetime and still not know everything
Serbs were never ruled by someone they percieve as their savior hence why they always felt threatened by these two ethnic groups, Bosniaks thorugh Ottoman Turks and Croats through AH, but also Croats and Bosniaks between themselves
Bosniak are really fast on pointing Serbian warcrimes in the 90s, but usually dismiss that Serbs were majority in Bosnia pre-WW2 and that they were the most killed ethnic group in Bosnia in those times, while many of local Croats and Bosniaks were allied with SS divisions and that they were usually the ones that did those crimes
So obviously, in these time when Bosnia is (semi) independent and all sides are equally represented in political hierarchy, all tend to teach their version of history (which you can see by some Bosniak nationalists in your comments)
All in all state is heavily decentrilized and that's the only way it can function by itself since anything else would end up in another turnoil
It's really hard to find solution that would satisfy all three groups.
Separation of all three sides with Serbs uniting with Serbia, Croats with Croatia and Bosniak getting their own national state without Serbo-Croatian influence would probably be most optimal solution, but Bosniak automatically dismiss that idea since they percieve it as act of "serbian nationalism" even though it would benefit them since either way they don't control their ethnic areas (Serbs have Republika Srpska and Croats their cantons aka regions in Federation of Bosnia).
All in all really depressed situation, where all three groups fail as a whole.
From tourist standpoint, most objective solution would be to visit main places of all three sides to get broader perspective (Banja Luka for Serbs, Sarajevo for Bosniaks and western half of Mostar for Croats)
Hope to see you in other EXYU countries since all of them have really interesting histories as well.
Greetings from Belgrade, Serbia.
Just alot of serbian propaganda bs in this text
Lady the problem of Bosnia is the settlers don’t want to leave our Bogomil what you Romans call “ Heretic “ country! Turks left Bosnia but they left behind their horses that they brought to Bosnia from Russia!
You friend Grigor told you mostly lies.Bosnia is country of Bosniaks existing for a long time 1st as kingdom.Most of Serbia and Croatia was part of that kingdom.Serbs and Croats took our language Bosnian and our scripts(both) and rename it.B&H has gone through long history of wars not caused by Bosniaks.Ottomans didn't forbid religion.Tito was dictator and nobody liked him except Serbs.War in 90-is wasn't civil war.Serbia and later Croatia attacked Bosnia trying to divide country for themselves.They are even trying that today.
This sounds like a very partial view on history to me. But I don’t know enough to add more to it. Just want to encourage to also look with a critical eye your own opinions and stands.
@@WhatashameMaryJane It obvious that you have sympathy for Serbs who were and are still oppressors.I don't need stranger or oppressor to tell me anything about my country.You didn't look critically on Grigor's opinion either.You don't know anything about my country but you are talking about history faked by people like you.
Omg stop your nonsense.
@@WhatashameMaryJaneyou are 100% correct!
@@cinoeye Serb oppressor is trying to shut me up haha.Chetnik mrš.You are telling nonsense not me
7:07 this guy obviously has no knowledge about the history. The Serbs and Croats back in ex Yugoslavia and before that in the kingdom of Yugoslavia and Kingdom of Serbs, Slovene and Croats imposed their languages on Bosnians. Your friend forgot the history which he, unfortunately, didn’t have a chance to learn because of political doctrine from Belgrade: in 1906 Austro Hungarian empire suspended and erased Bosnian language and in 1912 re-named it with Serbian-Croatian. That’s how Serbo - Croatian became a language in Bosnia. Before that it had always been Bosnian language, in schools and elsewhere. Let’s check the historical facts before you speak next time how bosniaks didn’t have their language. It’s more like we all had that language which was Bosnian and which you and AU changed hundred years ago or so into names of neighboring countries.
Here is one historical event that led to the increase in the muslim community in Bosnia:
In 1697 AD Prince Eugene of Savoy led the "Great Raid" into Ottoman Turkish occupied Bosnia which led to the sack of Sarajevo on the 23rd of October 1697 AD.
When Prince Eugene had to retreat from Sarajevo back into Croatia-Slavonia many local Roman Catholics decided to follow him into Croatia as they were afraid of Ottoman Turkish reprisals. After this Christian (Roman Catholic) exodus from Bosnia the muslim population increased as a % in the Sarajevo area.
There has never been a Bosnian ethnic group as Bosnia is named after the Bosna river.
Mary Jane you make a number of factual errors in this presentation. The Ottomans were not Turks they were an Islamic empire which consisted of many different linguistics. The 'Turkish' State or narrative was created mostly after it's collapse. Most Islamic people from this region inside that empire were in fact Albanians and 'Slavs' whatever that means also decendants of the Roman sphere perhaps even your ethnic kin. Montenegrins too are not entirely 'Orthodox' whatever even that means. Both my parents are from there and they don't speak Slavic nor are they 'Orthodox' adherents. Our ancestors may or may not have been 'Orthodox' historically but they were certainly Catholics. Should people like yourself and others reference Montenegrins as Orthodox then I'll work toward changing that narrative sometime in the future and maybe even perhaps implement a State that reflects the true identity of my ancestors. In fact the very linguistics you were using were far more representative of this whole region historically including even German. The coast was mostly Latin speaking and Montenegro itself consisted of many Italian families who were indigenous to the area. The very name Monte and Negro is Latin in every aspect not Orthodox. Other than that your production is quite pleasant in all it's aspects including presentation. Either way I hope your well. Cheers.
1. You don't know what mean Orthodox 😂
2. your parents don't speak Slavic language and you said that are from Montenegro😂
3. You speaking about Latin in Montenegro😂
And you want to speak about history of Montenegro or Bosnia
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@@KraljStefan-ey3bo Orthodoxy implies a genuinely accepted belief or truth as they 'pertain' it to be as in Orthodox Jews, Christians and perhaps even Muslims. History is written by the victors and for the most part is not entirely accurate. Remnants of the Roman empire consisted of Latins Goths and many other tribes. Their history is often neglected.
@@KraljStefan-ey3bo Perhaps you can tell me what you proclaim Orthodoxy to mean? Let's see how clever you are.
Your Srbian friend, didn’t tell you how many people they killed in Genocide in Srebrenica. You Serbian friend did not tell you Serbs destroyed 750 Mosques 🕌 in Bosnia. Muslims we did not destroy any Churches in Bosnia.
Stop lying! czcams.com/video/s4OtrURu5AA/video.htmlsi=pgKvFkNr92fRtU2l
I miss my hometown Banjaluka and my friends..Town where i grow up and the best time of my life..I was just 20 year old 😢
It never be the same like before but memories no one can take from me .Banja Luka will Always be in my❤
Thanks for video.
Ps..and yes i was witness when serbs destroyed Muslims mosque as was 500 years old..UNESCO protected..WHY? I war World 2 world War no one destroyed them but they have to show they like Talibans . Tomorrow wil they did the same things because nothing is important just to be serbs..and nationalist..its difficult for you at understand war in Bosnia because its complicated..
Superficial, unprofessional reporting and at times very biased.. Bosnia's problem is its neighbors cantru, who want to appropriate or control its parts.. This was also ruled by the court in the Hague, as joint criminal enterprises in which Serbia and Croatia are involved.
Great video but you forgot to mention one important fact, and that is, there are no just 3 sides in BiH but four! the fourth side is international community, whether it be the High representative of EU or US, or Russian ambassador. this country is not fully sovereign, it is more like a protectorate. High representative of EU is constantly meddling into our country affairs, and can dismiss or appoint clerks and officials, and this is what he has been doing for the past 25 years. without understanding the international interventionism in our politics, you can't fully understand our country. best regards!
Very interesting! Thanks for the addition!
Fake! Ethnic groups are product of US agreement, in Dayton. They have started our last war and it was also finished when they said that it is enough. So we had to see blood all over the country and they made ultimatum, accept separation or not... Sounds like democratic choice but you need to go a lot in the past to understand those moves from so called modern societies. I appreciate your interest for my country but you didn't understand completely and it is not easy because it all depends who is explaining the story. As you said people are the same visually, yes because they are genetically brothers and sisters. They are sharing same haplo groups. Language is the same, 99,9 of the words are same. Also, Bosnia is having proof's of older version of the language and that is "Bosančica". Proof's can be seen on the stone's which are all over the country, most of them on the mountains. There is another version of the language and that is "Vinčansko pismo" It is not very clear which letter or language is older but they are practically the same, and they have similarities with Ciryl letter which is used in Bosnia, Serbia or also in Russian language today. About religion,... Fact is that we are the same people, same genetics and we have same language. We had lot of war's in the past and every time first fire is in the library's, that is why our history is destroyed, purposely. After so many war's we got catholic religion from West side, orthodox from East side and later Islamic religion came from south. That is why we have three religion's but same genetics.
Stone proof's called "Stećak" are also proof's of our older civilization called "Bogumili". Another interesting fact is on the north of Europe, bible found in Sweden from 4.century, written on so called Old German language is compared to our "Bosančica" or "Vinčansko pismo" letter and guess what? It is very similar. That is actually not surprise because European countries are younger genetically. Actually Sweden has some haplo groups which you can found in Bosnia, brother groups. That means Balkan peninsula is much older than Europe today but it is purposely destroyed over the years. If you understand real history then official history of the Europe would be changed and that is the reason why it is not popular to show another version of the story.
After our war DNA research is made to collect all the part's of the death bodies, to make some kind of satisfaction for the families of the death one's. And after that it is discovered that our genetics are very interesting and actually one of the oldest in Europe today.
Before the berlin congress everyone in Bosnia was bosniac and there was only one language which was called Bosnian. Bodamcica is the oldest alphaphet in balkans and all else is derived from it. It was not civil war but agression on Bosnia, where mainly croats and bosniamc faught to preserve cpuntry in one pieve like it was for centuries, where most of serbians amd some croatians supported the neighboring countries of Croatia and Serbia and their politics which through centuries is trying to occupy Bosnia.
Banja Luka was full of mosques begore the war, which serbs thore appart in pieces and made it appear like they were never there.
How dare you talk about history from so little knowledge and not learning from dif sources.
There were no Serbs nor orthofox ehrn ottomam came, but a Bosnian church that was autonomous and did not belong to east nor west church.
You give me great Idea, gone make YT Channel, go to Italy and talk that Rome build Germans .. hehehe. You are just talking a lot of Sh.t! Please research little beter before you make a YT video and try to be neutral and inipendent
Hey MJ - Why dont you also say that Serbian Orthodox authorities in RS don't want to build roads, that they are forbidding Bosnian Language in schools and they only want to learn Serbian. They dont want to organize public transportation, doctor’s visits, schooling for Bosniaks returnees in RS specially in Area Banja Luka, Prijedor and Podrinje where Serbian Forces committed biggest Genocide in Europe after WW2 sentenced in Hag Criminal Court. In Prijedor area close to Banja Luka was found Biggest mass grave of Bosniaks in Europe after WW2 called Tomašica. I would be shamed to talk only one history from only one nation which committed war atrocities in latest Yugoslavian wars in 3 different countries. Why didnt your friend from Banja Luka explained to you how much Bosniaks they expel from Banja Luka in ethical Cleansing? They want to change facts and history what entire world know . Their nation exterminated, 8400 Bosniak - Muslim civilians in 3 days in Srebrenica and put them in mass graves. That didn't happen in long past. It happened in modern Europe! You should educate your self a little more about Bosnian History. It is not Muslim Croatian federation, it is Bosniak - Croatian federation. You are mixing ethnicity with religion. Bosniaks are Ethnicity and their religion is Islam, so they are Muslims and the largest Ethnic group in Bosnia - Between 1.5 and 2 million people! It is insult for Bosniaks when you say Muslims. Then people think they are similar or same like Arab Muslims which they don't have nothing in common. It is same if you call Serbs Orthodox's and Croats only Catholics. That means they are the only religious group without ethnicity or nation prefix. You should visit Sarajevo it is Jerusalem of Europe. And also Tuzla only city in Europe with salt lakes in center of it.
So many lies !
Census 1991. in Sarajevo:
49% Bosnian Muslims
30% Serbs...
@@KraljStefan-ey3bo yes lies. Whole Europe say one only serbs another.
@@Balkanski_Papucar
Whole Europe ? 😂😂
You writing so many lies.
Lies about roads, language, public transport,schools, doctors...
Yes All except Russia Created Hague.
For future suggestions not to talk about population history specially from someone who used you to spread non truths. Please in future try to research on your own before you put something in public
Very interesting. Thanks Mary Jane. In case you travel Armenia, Yerevan you can stay in my apt for free + io parlo italiano ed inglese.
Viva Republika Srpska por siempre !
Mary Jane - you did a great job in the summary at the end - the quick fix political patch is not so great after all - it is obvious nationalism will always prevail as the leaders want it this way - not so much the every day people i hope ?, a basket case of eternal tension it seems
You need to dig deeper into the Topic of the Western part of the Balkan peninsula. People from this region, doesn't just derive from Slavic tribes, in there Genetical code, they have Hp Groups that prove that they direve from Keltic tribes, Hellenic, Ilirian, Gothic, and at last also Slavic tribes. The Slaves came at last to the Balkan peninsula, seeteld down, occupied the territories, were does other Tribes lived, intergreted them in there Culture and thode them there Language.
a u brate ko tebe ucu istoriju 🙄
@@vesnanuspahic7510 Provjeri malo šta genetičari kažu za ljude sa Z Balkana, najstarijih Hpo Grupa I 2, nađena, dominira skoro na svim djelovima te regije, starija od Ilira, 15 000 godina stara, potiče sa juga Danske, povezuju je sa Keltskim stanovništvom. Poslije toga su došli Iliri, oko 2000 godina prije nove ere (pojava Isusa iz Nazareta), potom tek dolaze Slaveni i Goti, upadi Huna su još prije njih ili možda istovremeno, kada je Atila došao na ove prostore, zadnji dolaze Mongoli oko 12stog stoljeća. Grci su bili prisutni u manjem obimu za vrijeme Ilira i kada ih silom porobljava Aleksandar Makedonski. Vjeruje se da je nekada davno za vrijeme Ilira, Helena, Dačana i Tračana bila i manja seoba iz Indije preko tada moćne Perzije.
It sounds like you are one of the subjects named in this video that I recently watched czcams.com/video/vPg8Q2iq0D8/video.htmlsi=XAWVqWlIRyrFMO97
@@WhatashameMaryJane I didn't lay, many University professors, from the field of Molecular biology, especially Genetics, proved laboratorile that the people's from the western part of the Balkan peninsula, derive from many different ethnical group's. I never sad that the courant inhabitants of the western part of the Balkan peninsula, are superior in any way, to other people that live outside of the Balkan peninsula, I just sad that we geneticly derive from many different ethnical group's, and that at some point in history, there came a moment, when different Slavic tribes came hire as a mayority, occupied this region, thod us there Language, and asimilated as in there Coulture. The fakt that I am right is that a have friends, and meet many Srba, Bosniaks and Croats, that have blond eyes and in there faces look like, there are some kind of people that are from the Scandinavian peninsula, if I am wrong, how is that then even possible, how didn't they look like Slavs that are blond. The only thing that differeted them from Scandinavians is that they spoke South Slavic languages. I may self, on may foot, have the complisety of the Greek foot, if I am genetically just a Slav, or derive just from different Slavic tribes, how is that even possible, becous this genetical complisety can only have modern Greeks, ho themselves derive from aciant Greeks. P.S. I am not I Balkan nationalist, I just want the truth to be told. I my self believe in our old Balkan saying: "From the old glory, you dosen't live", or in our Slavic words: "Od stare slave se ne živi". You Italians know that the best, and you coused a better pathway to your Country, when you started to industrialy and technologicly emprove your Country.
Incroyable la médiocrité des reportages sur la Bosnie. En ce moment c'est infernal. La Bosnie est le berceau des cultures,croyances et de la langue et de l' écriture slave et européennes, historiques et préhistoriques. Rien que ça ? Non. Territoire de la langue des Thrasciens dite ' langue slave ' sans accents (pure slave) est indissociable des Serbes et de la Serbie aucunement. La nationalité et la langue Bosnien furent interdit par les autorités Autrichiennes en 1903 après annexion. Philosophes arrosés, je peux pas vous léser uriner où bon vous semble. Ps. Europe sans Bosnie c'est comme Moyen Orient sans Mésopotamie 🖐
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@@WhatashameMaryJane trouvez-vous un traducteurs comme moi, même si toute cette médiocrité commence à me sortir par les narines. Je reste entièrement disponible pour vous en slave y compris. Les reportages sur la Bosnie doivent être plus soigner et éducatif car la Bosnie est le berceau des civilisation européennes et mondiale du coup 👊
@@WhatashameMaryJane vazi appelle moi gorges toi
I watched the video of this girl who is certainly of Serbian origin and presents the history of RS and Croatia as if other peoples and nationalities do not live there. I know who and what BiH is, which is my country, and I feel and above all I see who wants it bad like this toy tuber. In all the videos about BiH, she said that she hates BiH, i.e. Muslims, and she showed Banja Luka, not pretending to any other country like Sarajevo, Tuzla, Zrnica, Mostar, so it is obvious that he knows the conditions in Bosnia and Herzegovina and its history, where he does not mention the most numerous people, i.e. Muslims, showing that he is above all a great nationalist and hater of Bosnia and Herzegovina as such. I would ask you not to give likes and support to those who hate other peoples where this CZcamsr shows it. He falsely presents himself, he is a foreigner, and from his slurred speech it is obvious that he is from the area of the former Yugoslavia, and that he is a hater of everything that is not Serbia.
It seems to me that she got good information, Croats don't live in BiH, Catholics live in NiH, Serbian people don't live, but Orthodox people, Bosnian people don't live as you say; you mean Muslims. Total dezibnormisanist nice mocha. All of them are either Catholics or Orthodox or Muslims, that's their religion and their nationality is Bosnian. And that's why there was a war in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Catholics and Orthodox belong to one part of Bosnia and Herzegovina. Croatia and Serbia both attacked BiH as such in order to claim it as their own, but they did not succeed. They still try that today. Unfortunately, it is so.
You naz! sh!t read Constitution of Bosnia and you will see:" Serbs, Croats..."
Serbs are Serbs like in Serbia, Montenegro,Croatia, Germany, Russia,Australia...
s I see it, you girl got the wrong information and that's why you're misinterpreting everything. Why are you doing that, I will see and react to every mistake you make, be it intentional or not. The capital of Bosnia and Herzegovina is Sarajevo, as well as of the RS and the federation. There are no more capital cities and it's not right that you present it like this without first being convinced of reliable information, so I think you fell under the influence of someone from RS to present this video like this. It would have been better if you had recorded natural beauties and so on. but something like this that I personally start to suspect that you recorded this video to present Bosnia and Herzegovina as a non-state, where I would personally ask for the exception of your videos as such, i.e. like these.