Black Taxis - Full Documentary
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- Brendan, Gerald and Tom are former volunteers of the Irish Republican Army. For them, and for all Irish republicans, the time of the armed struggle is now over.
- But how to live in peace after thirty years of war and sacrificed life?
- How then rebuild his life that under the company, it remains a criminal?
- And how to accept that peace does not look like victory?
Today they are drivers of "Black Taxi"
Republicans in the ghettos of Belfast.
Black Taxis are one of the strongest symbols of resistance. They were created at the beginning of the war, when the British government decided to suspend the bus service which served these neighborhoods.
In Belfast, the buses were driven by Protestants, who refused to risk their lives in these republican areas. The people were so organized, they bought old taxis to make their transit.
These taxis are still today their privileged transportation, 7/7, from morning to night, plying the same route.
Riding a Black Taxi is one of the few possible jobs for former prisoners. Moreover,
this Community transport system was also created in order to give them work.
These trips represent confinement and lack of horizon of a generation that has spent the first half of his life in war, in combat or in prison.
This film shows the loneliness, the loneliness of a day of war and the passing history and
Un film d'Elisabeth Jonniaux
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My father was a Catholic and couldn't go to college in northern Ireland because of that. He came to the USA in the 50's and started a new life in the usa.
no-one cares
‘You have to live in the time that you’re in’ Powerful words
Excellent documentary. It is good to hear the people who live there and who are on the ground give their views without questions or prompting.
Loved my time in Belfast can’t wait to go back.. me and the missus took a black taxi ride around. She didn’t hear about them before and didn’t really know what to expect she just knew I really wanted to do one.. well out of the whole trip to Belfast and we done everything you can do the black taxi ride was by far the best thing we did even the missus said that. If your travelling to Belfast I can’t recommend them enough. My missus didn’t think Belfast was the way it was until the cab ride. What an experience. Getting to walk into estates on shankill and see what’s it’s like without getting into trouble for been from the republic was cool. The taxi driver told us that once there’s no trouble it’s okay to walk through shankill these days. Belfast has a dark but cool history I hope peace continues up there
If you have a chance, take the black cab tour of the troubles. Very informative and the drivers lived through it
Best quote I ever heard on Ireland... "Catholics and Protestants fighting for hundreds of years and not a Christian among them"
jim gunn it's not purely a religion thing. It would be like calling USAs war on terror a war of Christianity vs Islam.
Blessed 94 very true. It was all about catholics and protestants years ago. More nationalistic violence these days. On both sides. The only way for it to end will be for the unionists to leave the island. Which I dont want to happen as a republican. Most northern irish people just want peace and equality on both sides.
JUST LIKE U JAMES
@@TheRatterdotcom Wrong the occupation of the stolen six counties of Ulster is a nationalism struggle for a United Ireland.
@@TheRatterdotcom I know that but the 1968 to 1998 armed struggle was about a United Ireland and getting back the stolen Irish territory from British occupation.
In the UK, when you hail a taxi, you get in and its your cab....until your destination.
In NI, especially catholic ghettos, there were areas without bus services. ( As busses would be hijacked )
You would hail a cab, and along the way it may stop to pick up other folk...who would climb in and share the ride. Complete strangers.
This was quite normal.
These people may take just a short ride, then before leaving they would drop some coins into the tray.
Likewise you may get out and they would continue on in the cab.
At one time in the 70's this casual use of black cabs was employed as a method of kidnapping victims to be murdered.
The victim would happily climb in to an already occupied cab, the person would then be attacked by the other 'passenger' .
Every black cab paid a levy to the 'falls taxi association', which went directly to the IRA. Black cab drivers were killed as
this allowed the loyalists to identify black cab drivers as legitimate targets, knowing they worked (indirectly) for the IRA.
I hope this is an interesting bit of info for some viewers.👍
Protestant black cab drivers from the SHANKILL would roam catholic areas and pick up a lone young catholic man on his way home from a hard day's work. He would get into the cab which carried other 'passengers' (loyalist murder gang).
They would drive him to a remote location...on the way, they would proceed to STAB and MUTILATE him, some times to the point of near decapitation. His body, cut to pieces, would be dumped.
This is what brave loyalists, for Queen and country, did in the back of a black taxi.
I hope this is an interesting bit of info for some viewers.
Great Catholic people
Thanks great information very interesting didn’t know any being a Londoner it my black cap do one would be least said
@@abcd-xr1fh believe the politician who controlled the gang which I presume you're speaking of, the Shankill Butchers, a quasi - independent unit of the UVF, ordered their 'captain', Lenny Murphy, to make blades rather than bullets their trade mark, as the sickening degree of violence that could be wrought therewith would have a greater potential to cow the Catholic population.
So savage was the violence inflicted on their victims by the Shankill Butchers that as a child in Cork I remember watching a current affairs programme on the subject on RTE (state television in the Republic) and drawing some odd looks and puzzled (not to mention, concerned) comments given that I seemed to find considerable mirth in the savagery being described -- the reason being, that _so_ vicious, so wicked, was the brutality wrought by these brave 'soldiers' of God and Ulster, even by the standards of Northern Ireland, that in my child's mind i actually thought I was watching some sort of surreal, comedic observation on the situation in the province, with the violence exaggerated for effect. Satire as opposed to reportage... Sadly, _No._ Of course in many parts of the World such barbarity is 'no big deal', cf. the Mexican drug cartels, just one of a myriad possible examples, but at the time there was a recognition that this was savagery unseen in Ireland since historical times, even notwithstanding the War of Independence and the Civil War in the Free State. Even hardline Loyalists were becoming uncomfortable with the level of brutality, if not for its own sake, then for the negative light it was drawing upon their cause.
The exploits of Murphy and his band of thugs would eventually get _so_ out - of - hand that they were starting to become a distinct liability in propoganda terms and Lenny was becoming more and more of a loose cannon, killing anyone who crossed him in the name of the UVF, and increasingly no longer even taking the trouble to distinguish Catholic victims from Protestant and all of this meant that he was writing his own death warrant - he would eventually be sold out by his own side to the IRA, the UVF supplying the enemy organisation with Murphy's movements and even the weaponry with which he "got _'got'_ " There are those that say "War is Hell", and there are those that feel that war is sometimes an unfortunate necessity. And then there are those like Lenny Murphy and his band of Merry Men who can only really thrive in conflict situations and actually _revel_ in them!
You sound like an American who hasn't a clue.....
great doc. thanks for putting it up.
as a 57 year old that lived in northern ireland and lived through it all neither side hated each other we all grew up together as friends and still are it was the evil people on both sides that caused the hatred the people of northern ireland have wised up to them and told them to go away
Hmm... so who exactly were the EVIL people you are referring to mate?
IRA UDA both sides were as bad
@@ogrebattle22763 Go on take a wild guess
@@shazzzabanazz4789 indeed narcissistic psychopaths will exploit and abuse if allowed. Most are cowardly and deeply insecure bullies and at the first sign need a swift punch on the nose.
Francis, but they still vote for them mate.
Catholic or Protestant, the people of Ireland and N.Ireland are a great and proud people. ❤
Belfast is such a strange city. But those red-brick streets have an allure and mystique where ghosts still walk
Y ou are just so correctthe lower Antrim Road and Lower Newtonards Road are very atmospheric.
Where are you from?
Brilliant documentry
The night shots are just perfect
I have Protestant and catholics in my family,and there is never any talk of the troubles and everyone sticks together like a family should,me personally don’t Class my self as either,I was just a normal guy when I was young getting a coin anyway I could,without resorting to shit like attacking old people or any other crap that any normal guy knows,the unwritten rules we live by,people think there’s plenty money in Aberdeen a city of quarter a million,but it’s the same as anywhere,
In October 1979 as a 22 year old from Leeds, I visited Belfast to meet up again with a girl I met in Blackpool on holiday a few months earlier. Heather was a nurse at The Royal Victoria Hospital on The Falls Road. For what it was worth she was a Protestant girl and one night we went to a private club disco run by the medical staff at the RVH just off The Lower Falls. We walked home to the Lisburn Road where she had rooms around 1 30 am and many black taxis were around but Heather said that we were to avoid them at all cost because if I got in one of those and spoke in my English accent that my life would quite probably have been over very shortly. Even to this day, although I found the occasion very scary and yet at 22 somewhat extremely exciting at the time, (ok, i'll admit I had taken much drink) I look back upon those few days and nights and think about the stupid risks I took all in the name of adventure and a shiver still sometimes runs down my spine. There but for the grace of God went I. I acknowledge that many of those guys around at the time were very serious operators indeed and were not to be messed with in any way whatsoever.
Your accent meant nothing. It's when you put on an army uniform and arm yourself with a weapon on Irish soil that you become a target. I assume you're in your 60's now so you have had plenty of time to understand what was at the root of all the problems? Yes, you've guessed it.......The British State.
@@ElzevereBlock I am in my mid 60's you are correct but i'm struggling to understand your comment. Are you saying that had I not worn a British Army uniform and didn't have a gun in my hand it would have given me protection from those determined Republicans had I run into them whilst over there in those times, from what I was told whilst over there from people in the know, that would definitely not have been the case. And by the way, I don't actually have to have lived so long to understand the struggle of the Catholics in the north throughout those days and earlier, I have studied The Troubles and many other Irish conflicts for a great number of years now.
you were lucky the shankhill butchers didnt pick you up they used a black taxi on the killings they done
I presume what you’re saying is that they would have assumed you were an off-duty British soldier is that right??
Thanks for uploading. A very tender, sensitive production that brought back fond memories of my years living in Belfast. Belfast people, Catholic and Protestant, are uniquely intelligent and cultured people. I would like to see Ireland united, and for Unionists to accept their place as part of Irish society. Ultimately they will be happier in themselves for doing so.
can you tell me please how me and many others like me would would be happier?
YES IT WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN U SO RIGHT ENGLAND WILL HAVE TO GO ITS NOT THEIR LAND
There is no such thing as native Irish, the natives to Ireland got whiped out by the people that now call themselves natives & was convincing till the discovery of DNA & now we all know that the irish are a mixture of English, Scottish, Welsh, nord & northern European AKA mainly British that fled attacks in Britain or immigrated as land owners
As for British/English or northen Irish should leave, there are 55million irish in the world but only 6.6million in ireland,
Irish in the republic of Ireland 4.7m
Irish in northern Ireland 1.9m
Irish in Britain 14m but you dont hear the British crying about it
Im happier remaining apart of the UK, thanks Charlie!
The unionists are trying desperately to be something they are not. ( English). It's like an inferiority complex. The Irish are better off in that way. However the protestants have more land. But the Catholics seem to be more into education. So hopefully they can work it out.
Great documentary 💚🇮🇪
I have worked alongside Irish people for many years in England. It has never occurred to me to ask them about their religious beliefs...It is none of my business.
Elizabeth Reign Castillo Hello 'Elizabeth' !
In 1987, I moved to London and worked in the Passport Office. During the summer period, over thirty Irish from Northern Ireland started working in my office. I couldn't believe the stories and never got involved.
Aged 52, I'm still great friends with most of the Irish and they're the nicest people that I've ever met. Not forgetting, absolutely hilarious!
Why watching this documentary then if its none of lyour business
Well if everybody in the world was like you it would be a much more peaceful place
MAYBE YOU SHOULD MAKE IT URE BUSINESS
Was this documentary made by Sinn Fein? Very balanced views here.
For everyone asking:
The documentary is "Belfast, ciel sombre" / "Belfast, Dark Sky" by Elisabeth Jonniaux. It came out in 2006. It's been renamed "Black Taxis" when shown in some places.
I'm shocked at the amount of diesel black taxies in the underground car park. The diesel particulates must be extreme. Guy's take care of yourselves and your passengers. Turn off your engines and/or get powerful extractors to circulate fresh air into this inclosed space.
Extractors extract air, they don't circulate fresh air!!
😂
Unless you lived here, you could never understand how it was to survive in northern Ireland during that period. Starting as a young teenager, and growing to an adult how I am normal and not crazy I dont know. Listen to these boys talking you may get a brief understanding, but go through this for 30 yrs.
Great documentry and insight into an unforgettable time and they remain not bitter. Says alot about them as people. Respect
Great watch. What year was this filmed?
Good watch
Nice subtitles if your french
Rains a lot in norn iron
1991 he was shot, not 1981!
Can you tell us what tour company you used, please? Having an experienced guide/driver is always best.
Just don't understand why the French keep translating 90's into 80's in the subtitles?
Perhaps these two taxi drivers ( and especially the one in the grey sweater ) should be on the front benches in parliament! A very good documentary and depiction of the situation. Ps. the huge protestant / loyalist "funeral pyre" with the republican flags on top is totally pathetic. The irresponsible nutters even had to douse the neighbouring houses to prevent the clearly out of control fire from leaping over and causing disaster.
Believe me the other side are no better. Two cheeks of the same @arse !
I swear 5:05 is PUP leader Billy Hutchinson getting into a car.
___ Arch It’s not him.
In Derry they were not for private hire, they sat until 6 strangers got in and the were all left at different destinations on the route sometimes handy sometimes way off your planned destination, but hey for 50p, or 25 as a kid
And all the profits went to the IRA.
Free lift for the old woman that's the Belfast man for ya...but a Belfast man is a stubborn man💪🇮🇪
I plan on visiting North Ireland this summer. Hope they dont mind a 'yank' passing through their nieghborhoods, I want to see it on foot and really experience it.
Be very carefull its not all leprechauns and guinness this is still a very dangerous place for tourists
@@johnnndoeee674
Thanks for the reply.
And yes, I understand that.
Belfast is no more dangerous than New York or Dublin or London. All tourists are very welcome in Northern Ireland. It is a different place since the ira and inla stopped their murder campaign.
@@InFocusDesignBraeHil
Yeah I figured.
I grew up in Baltimore city, so I can probably manage in NI 😃
@Constance Hardman
Thanks, maybe I'll even meet an Irish lass. 😃💖
15:45 I’m pretty sure those two girls are my aunties. This is in the new lodge north Belfast btw if anyone is wondering.
30:49 is that Bernard Manning juggling a drumstick lol?
Were is the other side of the story here?
"we invaded ireland and if you try stopping us you are a terrorist"
dmctztv Oh really. So the people who live there invaded? Haha. Idiotic.
You don't get the other side of the story especially when its a nationalist programme lol
I love Belfast nice city nice people.
When one reads the comments it's like I remember 40 years ago where are the moderators there is no hope for these sad people both sides do not seem to be able to move on
Ulster will always be an Ethnostate. And thank God for that. There has to be some boltholed for the white race. All the other races are allowed their pride, the countries, their Xeniphobias. Why not us? Do we think we are better than them to the degree that we can't do what they do. You stupid, concieted leftist fools.
@@andyvokes2703 your pro Nazi fascist speak seem to forget your beloved British identity fought the nazis, you are an embarrassment to the ordinary citizens of Britain
You can't say the Protestants aren't Irish, they have been there for over 500 years.
Equally any discrimination against Catholics is unacceptable.
Both of these statements should be obvious.
It’s unionist Protestants themselves who say they aren’t Irish.
Thankfully being born in 89 I barely remember the troubles.
Seeing as they haven't ended, I'm not really making sense of your comment. Lots of car bombs have gone off in the last 2 years ans let's not forget the murder by the IRA of Lyra McKee THIS YEAR. So how can the troubles be over?
@@Puppy-ew4be troubles is not over and never will be either
@@markkenna740 it's nothing to wot it used to be though. It may well return to that although it probably wont
guess you're getting a taste of it now... stay safe... (4/8/2021)
@@mikemccormack8993 you're right. Its happening on the same road I live. albeit on the bottom end of the road. Stupid people fighting over things they don't really understand. (just an excuse for a riot for many young people)
Awesome at 3.50 you can view a Black Mercedes 190E. I owned one of these in the States. It reached 500,000 miles and still ran like a champ
What year was this filmed
10 years later and they're still the same stuck in the 70s like we used to be second class ha ha
Nothing to do with the Troubles, but why is a band at 31:50 wearing U.S. Marine uniforms?
I noticed that too! They even stole the fuckn emblem.... 🤣unoriginal or possibly down right disrespectful!
Love Derry Girls that's not what brought me here thou.
Moral of the story your safe to go on the bus
Paul Fergieson tell that to the innocent men at kingsmill or teebane
Why do you think we had Black taxi's lol.
Are you now? Did you not hear the part where the unbearded taxi driver told the story about a civilian Tim man that got clipped by the prods after they'd stopped the bus he was on to head home after his work?
And what about the Protestants rights in a shared future, or does the concept of history only go one way !!
Yes, let us hope that an imagined irish rule in the north will be more humane towards protestants than the british rule was towards catholics....
You should read the Irish proclamation it promised you the exact same rights and civil libertys as catholics from 1916 don't speak of history if you choose to ignore the facts
@@username33ish it's all about identity, not practicality, which is why the deciding votes for a UI or to keep NI will be from the people in the middle. Unionists will vote no even if it means they're economic prospects would suffer, nationalists would still vote yes even though they'd lose the NHS. It's all about identity. The people in the middle will be the ones to determine Northern Ireland's future, not nationalists nor unionists.
To the victor the spoils 🇮🇪
The protestants in the south of Ireland have been treated very well. They were even more likely to get jobs in state media than the regular Catholic population.
Brilliant film..+zammo maguire loyalist paramilitaries and even the loyalist community were late to the game of gable end murals and so called "propaganda". Their early murals seemed to be about marking their estates and territory. Some of the more recent are interesting historical murals but more than a few are overtly threatening. To circumvent censorship Republicans used some murals as a form of communication
glen atkinson - cheers for your reply mate but I wasn't talking about the murals more about how these Republican working class men can explain their side of things in an articulate manner, something Loyalists find difficult
glen atkinson republicans took prison education very seriously, I believe that filtered down to the larger community
bs the 2 of you
Theh chaoches uv aw streey bullut
The subtitles aren’t very good, half translations are wrong or left out
nar, that's just the Irish mate.
barry bigballs that makes no sense, I can speak both French and Irish and they aren’t translated correctly
Loyalists are scum of the earth.
I can't find Victor creatorette
31:52, US Marine band?
Us marines dont have a monoply on that type of uniform
does anyone know when this was filmed or released
I was wondering myself
He said ten years after the ceasefire
@@jm9661 2004 then
It was documented by tube 2016
It would’ve been 2008, he commented that it was 10 years since the ceasefire. That happened in 1998.
As far as the marching issues, there should simply be Unionists and Republicans all marching in the same procession.
BLACK HAT marching against the banks and the fat cat politicians
Have you ever heard a republican flute band? They sound dreadful and dress like the homeless.
😂
I'm going up to Belfast soon always wanted to go up and see the place I'm very fascinated by the place the history mainly
Mark Kenna it's a shitehole
triple K you from Belfast mate ?
triple K no it's the people who make it the shithole. 😂
As one sided as Gerry Adams. What a load of shite. 10-0
Tknx for the upload, will there struggle ever End..? We -R- not fond of Orange Either..........................
Mum Protestant ,Dad Catholic
I have been studying this period for quite a while and I’m impressed by this documentary and grateful that you made it available. What a down to earth commentary about people who suffered so much loss. I do think that it is frequently the governing state, Britain in this case, that encourages the mindless hate to make the country more governable. In the US we are continuing to pay the price for being governed by land, and slave, owning aristocracy.
your talking bullshit. the British stopped a civil war. the money & guns from your country killed a lot of people you have blood on your hands
Arrested two Seriously wanted I.R.A. Men when I stopped a Black Taxi in A/Town 1974, Personally escorted them up to the Turf Lodge unharmed, Anthony and Thomas you owe me a Whisky, It's lucky for you I was a Tim. Glad its all over. : )
Thomas Purvey what regiment were you with ?
@@JohnMcMahon. John I was with the Ist Bataillon The Black Watch .
@@thomaspurvey What's a bataillon?
@@keithpringle3940 Probably my bad spelling Kieth, if I could spell I would have been in the R.A.F.🧐
Looked it up for you Keith ,it's a French Surname 🙂
Why dont you hold an election and let the people of N Ireland vote who they belong to - Ireland or Britain. It's the 21th century, we have democracy and we respect the decisions people take on their own, once and for all. And why would catholics be looked down at, there is an established catholic Church of England - makes no sense?
Drop bears 🐻
They need to stop the intimidation bit, stop cursing at each other, I don't think either side can 100% blame the other because it looks like it goes both ways, the intimidation bit looks like its literally drummed into the children so the cycle of intimidation continues and sometimes explodes into violence and killings, they all look like pretty nice people but then they struggle to get along with each other because of the past , and yes i do not live there and dont really understand whats going on but something there is seriosly wrong.
Both sides are living their past, not living in their future.
@@Aindriuh It's impossible to live in the future unless you're a time traveller!
Great summary there mastermind!
@@keithpringle3940 you seem quite able to live in the past.
@@Aindriuh I live in the present mate, with one eye looking to and planning for the future! Again it's also impossible to live in the past, unless you're marty mcfly!
I remember trying to get a Black Taxi, outside the Europa bus terminal years ago. The driver asked me where I was for through his open window, when I said just off the Beersbridge Rd East Belfast, he said to me, Fuck, I wont take ya and slammed the window shut. My first thoughts were, you ignorant bastard. I never ever, tried to hail a Black Taxi again over there, it was always mini cabs.
he sounded like a twat, perhaps just a one off
@@banjodeano2202 I know mate, they all could not be like that. I understand where he was coming from, but it was his attitude. Stay safe pal.
@@stephensmith4480 ive been over there quite a few times, you would think the Brit accent would not go down too well, and added to that having a black partner as well, ....... but i can honestly say that we have never had a problem, they have made us feel nothing but welcomed, i reckon you just happened to be unlucky mate, i wouldn't take it personal, we all have a bad day....you also stay safe
@@banjodeano2202 Nice one mate. I first started going over there in the mid 80s and then I started seeing a girl from Belfast later on. As you say, I have never had any problems at all apart from that one thing. The people are really friendly and genuine, that`s part of the reason I love them so much, they are very similar to us, I am from Liverpool. Take it easy mate 👌😊.
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Piuty they did tell the stories about the victims they had in the back of their taxis, being taken away to be shot by the IRA
Have you ever heard of the Shankill Butchers,and black taxis,you ignouramous
Never happened we didn't do that ...you did
The Brits don’t belong in Ireland, they never had. The IRA would never have existed if the Brits didn’t invade Ireland 800 years ago.
@@thetaxivlogger give it a rest for god sake! Live in peace, love your life and your fellow men, forgive forget and move on and you'll have a happier life. Yes, bad things went on, do they have to go on and on and on? They all need to just concentrate on all the positives and leave the rest be. You're only ruining your own life and time (life's so short it really is) move on and be happy and make others happy, it works you know, it really does and you'll get happiness through others
Sad but I doubt they even had a choice. Or it would of been them if they dared of spoke out.
It is crazy, the right wing complains in the UK about foreigners coming to their country, the danger to their "way of life"....they went to Ireland, they are minority, foreigners originally and the discourse reverses into having rights as the original population. I hope peace prevails BUT that is Ireland so should be one country, one republic. Whoever wants to stay should be allowed to stay as a full citizen, whoever wants to go, can go. It is crazy that someone moves into a country and pretends to rule it. BUT my problem with republicanism is that it seems to go hand in hand with socialism, Che guevara all that fucking shit. BTW the documentary maker did not show the other side.
You just stated a simplistic analysis there...lads go and if not stay! Lol you just sorted it out mate wow! Only took 30 years thanks! But che Guevara was more idolized by republican idolgy in that the underdogs overthrew the government against massive odds...... socialist ideology was never the goal ultimately.....it's never worked in majority countries it's been practiced due to curroption although Sweden is left wing and flourished due to being in a democracy also
@@jackietreehorn5561 Sweden has a leftist approach in discourse but for all things concerned is very much capitalist I'll say. Like Spain and France , many times governed by "socialist" far from the reality, they just call themselves that.
Religion such a wonderful thing
A man made agency of social control. Nothing more.
Piece of garage Christianity
It’s unionist versus republicans…
I don’t understand why they would think the British would ever completely leave? It would be an all out civil war over differences in religion. I know that’s why it all started right? How many ppl believe that’s still the reason for the divide? Or is it all about money and power?
It is more about Irish Republicans fighting the loyalists for full independence, less so about the religion
The opposite. Ireland and Britain (England) were warring well before The Reformation.
The tradition of Republicanism in Ireland lies primarily amongst Protestants despite the fact most Republicans are Catholic. It's all way more nuanced than your immensely limited understanding of the conflict(s).
Eireann. Ireland.
lol fuck I remember that when I was a child, the drop bars and the bolts on the doors, I never understood why.
To keep the paedos out !
Catholic priests?
Man, its crazy how so many years on there’s still so much hate. I’m English, kind of. I was born here, but have a Jamaican Grandfather whoms was one of first time come here in the ‘50s. He married my Gran an English woman. That’s my mothers side. On my Dads side, my Grandmother was born in England, but her Dad was from Eire, and her Mum was Welsh. So, a real mixed bag. My uncle married an Irish woman whoms parents came over at the height of the troubles. Both came from traditional big Catholic families, however, her Dad NEVER went back to Ireland for any of his parents or siblings funerals, but his wife did, and to her own families funerals. They were very well off, moved here and opened a cafe, then bought property. They left a small fortune behind when they past. My wife’s fathers family are from Ireland, not far from the Giants Causeway. My wife’s Grandfather used to talk a lot about the troubles, and his brothers whom were IRA, although he was not. He spoke a lot about the RUC and the army raiding their home, beating and arresting his brothers ect. I also have many Irish friends, from Eire and some from Northern Ireland. 2 of whom are brothers whom left after the eldest was knee capped by the IRA. The history is intriguing and sickening. The famine of 1845 was horrific. My feelings are that the British should of left well alone, but it’s more complex than that. History shows that the British (un)intelligence services used known killers, whom were part of known terrorist organisations to do their dirty work, even permitting them to kill, and going so far as to sacrifice other assets, to keep their best ones in play. People whom had serious amounts of blood on their hands. Mass murderers, whom shot, maimed, tortured, planted bombs, blew people up, and informed. Historical cases are under review and investigation and I truly hope that the army and (un)intelligence services along with the RUC are brought to book. Things occurred that we’re wrong in all sides. The solution is peace, acceptance, empathy, understanding and forgiveness. It’s time to put the terrible events of the past to bed and move on. Terrible things occurred, no argument. Surely, it’s better for the future generations and today’s children to put this to bed once and for all. To allow this current generation of children to grow up in normality, not a war zone. It’s got to be better for everyone, surely. It’s just finding a way for peace to prevail and work. There’s a solution, it’s time to find it. I’ve family whom served in the British army as kids. Some saw their best friends burned alive by petrol bombs. They wanted out, and really didn’t want to be there. They saw it for what it was. They were detested by ALL their. They were used as chess pieces, pawns whom were expendable. Their presence helped no one least of all themselves. They bought themselves out as soon as they could. I went out with a few catholic girls as a teen, and went to many birthday party’s at both the Irish Club & Catholic Club, where at some point in the evening a hat would come round, with everyone expected to put in. Most thought wrongly, that it was for tips to give the organisers, instead of the truth which was a collection for the IRA. The naivety of children, eh. The best looking policewoman in South York’s is an Irish girl called Sinead, she’s beautiful. It was a pleasure to be arrested by her, and to have the opportunity to flirt and chat to her. That’s going back 20 or so years though. Point is, we are all just people, with our faults. It’s past time to put all this to bed. I see both sides of the argument. Bloody Sunday was an outrage, but so is bombing innocent people whom have no part in the argument, especially children in another country/on a differing island. Barbaric. The IRA have a valid point, it’s just the way people went about things, but then what were they supposed to do when the Army and unintelligent services were playing just as dirty and committing atrocities of their own and covering them up. Getting others to do their dirty work. I hope the investigations into the wrong doings bear fruit and bring the guilty to book, and bring the truth to court to prosecute the guilty whom thought themselves untouchable and above the law. Conspiracy has been committed and should easily be proven. Anyway, I hope the people of Eire and Ireland can live in peace together. Peace.
Not paranoid if legitimate risk a life it’s common sense obviously learnt by someone’s murder 🚕 all best for doing what see is a very dangerous job hope money matches risk
This popped up again and I cant help myself not to comment , looking at the housing and the general community and its attitudes its like looking back into the Victorian era , the only reason you would not know you were back in time one hundred and fifty years ago is the cars on the streets , you can see why Britain as a nation is now a failed state degenerate in every way they don't know whether they are coming or going or who they are anymore .
Bruce Burns Hey Brucie ..How's the weather 'Down under' ?? I'll bet that "pool" has had some hammer !
Remember time they had cheek march in Dublin hahagaha
Who?
Bad times glad they're over...too many died ...the current uk government doesn't have a clue
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Is it really ever over
Harryville chapel
All the silly billies in the comments, complaining about bias - was their irony surgically removed at birth?
I'm Catholic and Protestant I grew up on both sides ,only seen hate bred from birth on the orange side .take that to the bank
Even though it's Catholics with the bigot factories from 5 years old? right you are ya Crackpot
Does anyone out there think the 26 countries want N I back were would the dole money come from
fuck that mate the brits can keep that cess pit
I KNOW 5 PRODS LIVE JUST A MILE FROM US AND ARE HAPPY THEY EVEN WANT A UNITED IRELAND AS THEY SEE THE REAL KILLERS THE BRITS
Loyalists are poorly educated compared to their nationalist peers. I think we'll do what all the builders from the north are doing - making several times what they could in the north - if they could find the work.
I'm pretty sure the is a payment for ppl that are unemployed in the south of Ireland Morris
£10.5 Billion a year,you think Westminster wants rid of the North,you bet they do..
And how would the eussr pay for anything without British Money.
Hey daddy, i have a question, at what point does a beating become systematic, just asking so i am ...........
When the man doing it is relaxed like he's done it a 100 times before
This man is so proud of his involvement in the murder and heartache that plagued the province with veiled references to murders he may have committed yet when he was caught and rightly received a life sentence, he whinges he was fitted up by the security forces? Whatever he must live his life with the knowledge there maybe a boy or girl whose Mum or Dad died as a result of this man's behaviour, one day they might hail his cab and from the backseat deliver him to whatever god he believes in. Who would want to live a life like that?
RicTic66 Very similar to Danny Nightingale SAS who has never stopped whingeing since his conviction ..... " On 10 July Nightingale was found guilty and released on bail.
On 25 July 2013, he was sentenced to two years' detention, suspended for 12 months. Commodore His Honour Judge Jeffrey Blackett, the Judge Advocate General of the Armed Forces, and a Senior Circuit Judge said in his sentencing remarks: "We understand how difficult these proceedings have been for you and your family. However, you have brought much of that anguish upon yourself and your public assertions that you are a scapegoat or the victim of some wider political agenda is absolute nonsense." The judge also said that the case deserved a sentence of immediate custody, which would have been imposed save for the earlier remarks of the Court of Appeal. Nightingale's explanation of how the pistol and ammunition came to be in his bedroom was, said the judge, a "made up [and] spurious defence which falsely impugned the character of a fellow soldier and caused a number of SAS soldiers to risk their own security in giving evidence."
The judge also directed remarks toward "commentators and MPs" who had criticised the prosecution, stating: "I trust that those who have been so critical of the service prosecuting authority and the court martial process-particularly those who made unfounded and uninformed remarks under the cloak of parliamentary privilege-now realise how inappropriate and wrong their criticisms were."
Nightingale was banned by the SAS from making further comments to the media.
Religion causes ALL Wars
@Alan Mc The Normans didn't invade Ireland! One of the kings invited them to assist him in deposing the High King. Try reading reliable history books.
@@Aindriuh I'm sure one of the Indian chiefs.african chiefs invited you in too, as did the ethnic Germans in the Sudetanland your brethren the Germans.....
@@irishboer7124 invited me in? I doubt it seeing as I am Irish. Read decent history books written by Irish historians. You will find thast the High King of Ireland invited the Normans to assist him in putting the King of Munster back in his box as he was disobeying the High King. The problem was, the Normans liked what they saw after they had done so and stayed. That is the real history.
Imagine being a nuisance looking for explosives! This driver is a one man propaganda machine.
my old man worked on the docks
Paul Blackstock na that was ya ma
stiofan thompson My Old Mans a Provo.... As the song says... 🇮🇪🇮🇪😚
Paul Blackstock Key Gangster eh Paul??? Hun Bastard
Did he have a beret and a gun?
Thank fuck it wasn't your Ma
If systematic beatings aren't - rightly so too - the way a Police Force is supposed to behave, then explain paramilitary punishment beatings? 🤔
It'll be because they don't have prisons I expect?
Somethings not quite right with these translations...
"Pomme de' terre Rodney my son, pomme de' terre....." 😉😂
violent people will never find peace
Adds are a bit much....
Arit mock how u
@@williamallan8705 How now brown cow....
A meant to say Michael how u 👍
@@williamallan8705 How's it goin......😃
@@michaelahern9883 no bad m8 sorry about the messenges no need for it when the war is over how u
Is this the most one sided production ever made
What a crap situation to be born into.One of the guys says you are where you are make the most of it.That’s true there is injustice everywhere my advice if the system is loaded against you fight back.Mandela fought and won so did Ghandi neither fired a shot.The Irish conflict has been going on for a good few centuries of armed struggle maybe time for a political solution.As kids we fought each other at first bits of wood where thrown then stones then catapults then for some guns at least now the two sides are trying for a solution.
Mandela was a great man, but his organisation wasn't remotely non-violent. N'konto We Sizwe made the Provos look like the Pet Shop Boys!
Your like jason bourne lol
Best quote I ever heard was are you a Catholic or Protestant the reply came back neither I'm an atheist
Enjoyed watching this documentary. Ireland should and will be united
@@drianpaisley7968 unification is inevitably, only a matter of time now
Been saying that since the before the 1960's mate, and there is still no "united ireland," because we don't unite with terroists.
@@drianpaisley7968 different times now, loyalism in big decline, can't even muster more than 20 people to a protocol protest
@@zebrahead32 u really are a mindless person, 🤣
The Orange Faith is open to all, who's believe is that no matter your religion or race. There are African sectors of this Faith who hold annual marches as an example. I was brought born and brought up in Northern Ireland so have a very good understanding of the Faith i was involved in. Part of the order has connections to battle of the Boyne where Catholics had been persecuting protestants in which William of Orange fought to help and overthrow James Catholic king of England for the crown himself. Since then there has been an association from a lot of Catholics that it is the Orange order are gloating and being prerogative and ultimately disrespectful to that defeat. History can't be changed but learn and educate, we all get judged by the same God we say we believe in!!
Shut up about your gay Dutch man and your rambling crap
Just accept the fact that a united Ireland is inevitable
Say that to Michaela McAreaveys family.. take off the rose tinted glasses/ smell the coffee. I’m English and telling you now no person in England thinks of Northern Ireland as English. Poor republic will have to inherit the debt and thugs.
I hope you're not equating the Orange "faith" with Christianity. It's a club, a lodge, maybe even a belief system. But it has nothing to do with Jesus Christ the Son of God, and His life and teachings.
United ireland 🇮🇪 soon ☘️🇮🇪🇪🇺
The Orange Order is not a faith, it's an organisation. It is open to anyone who is a member of any Protestant religion, pledges allegiance to the British Monarchy and celebrates the victory of King William. By definition Orangeism is not open to all.
it's not about religion but identity. Why let your perceived tribal allegiance influence your whole life and push you into criminality. Why not choose, because it is a choice, to live as an individual amongst other individuals. Those community leaders who push tribal identity are effectively manipulating their communities for their own benefit. Your Paisley's, Adams', and Billy Wright type characters promote tribal identity to create power, position and privilege for themselves. Those who support them are manipulated by their leaders' use of history and need to wake up from their mindless obedience and live their own lives
I think some of the Nationalist leaders have been very intelligent and politically smart.
But the Loyalist leaders have been largely dreadful.
How can they allow something as fundamentally dreadful as the Sacred Heart School fiasco I don't know.
Taxi driving laughing about shooting a fellow human being several times. The other taxi driver seems surprised that he got a life sentence.. are all the black taxi men IRA?