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  • @karencoughlin7149
    @karencoughlin7149 Před 3 lety +89

    Came for the bread making stayed for the business and life lessons

    • @marjankrebelj4007
      @marjankrebelj4007 Před 3 lety +4

      as usually with this channel :)

    • @cuttwice3905
      @cuttwice3905 Před 3 lety +4

      His asides on realistic economics are always spot on.

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      @peterspence839 Před 3 lety +3

      It's hard to ignore the raw passion and enthusiasm, great info for small businesses and growth.

  • @Ashmann1
    @Ashmann1 Před 3 lety +28

    Loving that the commenters are a even blend of home bakers and bakery workers. Speaks volumes about the quality of the content on this channel

  • @petraweber3846
    @petraweber3846 Před 3 lety +9

    I bake (cottage industry) in Mesa.
    My best seller is Whole Grain Sourdough. Per each loaf, I use 160g hot water to soak 20g Barley, 20g Farro, 20g Roasted Oats (whole), 40g Freekeh (rubbed and roasted green wheat from the Middle East), 20q millet, 20g ground flaxseed, and 20g rye groats (or rye flakes). I ferment this mixture for at least 24hrs and up to a week. This porridge is so tasty, I can eat it straight. All grains are purchased locally and most are organic.
    My recommendation is to taste your porridge prior to folding in into a dough. If you can't stop eating it, it will make great multigrain bread.
    The dough has 10% whole spelt and 5% dark rye to deepen the nutty flavor of grains.
    I ferment the dough up to 4 days in the fridge.
    Most bakers use more seeds than whole grains in their Multigrain loaves. I call it Seeded Sourdough, not Multigrain.
    If you have any questions, please reach me at SourdoughByPetra@gmail.com

    • @mssmgirl1
      @mssmgirl1 Před 3 lety

      Awesome information. Why do seeds need to be soaked? Thank you so much for sharing. I’m just an amateur home baker. Blessings

    • @petraweber3846
      @petraweber3846 Před 3 lety +3

      @@mssmgirl1 Seeds are seeds, not grains. We are talking about grains. Just think about it. You can eat pumpkin seed raw. Can you do the same with let's say barley? No, you would break your teeth. Grains need a lot of liquid to be soft, like boiling them before eating in several multiples of water. In the dough, the grains would pull the water from the dough. That would bake a brick, not an airy loaf of bread. Soaking has multiple other features, mainly improved taste and nutrition. Good luck baking.

    • @mssmgirl1
      @mssmgirl1 Před 3 lety

      Petra Weber thank you! I truly appreciate you taking the time to reply... it now makes sense! Blessings

    • @johngroaun7767
      @johngroaun7767 Před 3 lety

      good info

  • @soyboyhan2780
    @soyboyhan2780 Před 3 lety +5

    Proof videos are the bon apetit of bread baking except these have so many levels of depth, insight, humility, and a stark lack of pretentiousness. Great humans of bread world.

  • @thekentfamily3664
    @thekentfamily3664 Před 3 lety +14

    Lol I fought the digital scale for so long but the moment I started getting more serious about baking I started to see the importance of it and now that I’ve bought one I’m never going back and wish all my recipes were in grams

  • @RGS61
    @RGS61 Před 3 lety +8

    Great video!.. I agree, there appears to be so little out there in terms of best practices and techniques for baking with whole grains .. My process is the result of many years of experimentation .. I make a 12-whole grain / 25% whole wheat loaf, where my grain mix is 15% .. my method for soaking grains is very simple and reliable: 100% grain mix weight / 110% water .. I soak my grains at the same time I build my levain using pre-boiled water* that I have let cool to ambient temp .. By the time I begin folding in the grains, following the first fold, they have had 5 hours to soak, which I find is plenty .. On the back end, after 40 mins at 475F, I do tag an extra 10 mins at 375F to make sure I fully bake-out the extra water in the grains (50 mins total for 450g TFW loaf) .. I have experimented with both making a porridge and fermenting my grains with a small amount of starter, with zero benefit (in my experience) ... * I recently moved to pre-boiled water for all my sourdough and yeasted product, instead of straight out of the tap, after doing a test to determine the impact of the fluoride my water district adds to the supply .. the benefit for my sourdough, in terms of starter activity/strength and dough volume was significant (+15%) to the extent that I have ended up reducing the window for levain development and bulk to from 5 to 4 hours each .. and achieving a deeper, more attractive caramelization, and more complex flavor in the crust .. Hope that is of interest/help ..

  • @arne.munther
    @arne.munther Před 3 lety +6

    From one of the Tartine Bread books I use a technique of adding a tablespoon of sourdough to the mix. That helps softening them up.

  • @kellyriddle
    @kellyriddle Před 3 lety +1

    I’m not a baker at all I am a neuroscience student in college with terrible anxiety and for some reason listening to him talk really makes me feel calm and happy

  • @SavannahChris
    @SavannahChris Před 3 lety +7

    Hey there. What I use in my soaker is flaxseeds, sunflower seeds, cracked rye, toasted sesame seeds, rolled oats, warm water and salt. This is by far the best bread in this universe!

    • @lydiapetra1211
      @lydiapetra1211 Před 2 lety +2

      How long do you soak them? And than just drain them?

  • @slydaveyjones
    @slydaveyjones Před 3 lety +15

    I've done sesame, flax, sunflower, pumpkin, hemp hearts, chia seeds. I've pre-blended them all and fold them in almost every SD loaf I make. The hemp hearts add an incredible flavour on their own, so gotta be subtle with them.

    • @lydiapetra1211
      @lydiapetra1211 Před 2 lety

      Hi there, did you soak them together? How long?

  • @natubb
    @natubb Před 3 lety +6

    Hi! Im an amateur baker, and when i bake multigrain I use sesame, flaxseed, & sunflower seeds. I personally love the flavour of sunflower seeds when is rosted on the crust 🤤 love your videos!

  • @nyken
    @nyken Před 3 lety +3

    Amataeur home baker here. I use flax, sunflower and pumpkin. Usually not soaking them, but will try that also. Used sesam seeds, have an idea of roasting and grind them.

  • @TheBatkrasun
    @TheBatkrasun Před 3 lety +30

    Hey man. A couple of cool things we do in our bakery is
    1) we take our white sourdough dough and fold in a porridge of oats and linseeds
    2)we ferment (using rye levain)a mix of pumpkin, sunflower, linseed and sprouted rye seeds and put that in our rye bread
    I'm a big fan of both :)

    • @JCNvid
      @JCNvid Před 3 lety +2

      I also do Porridge, but i actually steam them, to keep the flakes whole

  • @eddyed8135
    @eddyed8135 Před 3 lety +15

    Black and white sesame, flaxseed, sunflower, in a ratio of 2:1:2:5, that's how we like for our seeded loaf in the bakery I work in, simple stuff.

    • @Rob_430
      @Rob_430 Před 3 lety

      What do you do to the flax seed, since it doesn’t get digested whole. I know grinding is one way, maybe toasting and soaking.

  • @flywithoutwingz
    @flywithoutwingz Před 3 lety +13

    I'd recommend doing a "tasting." Take a sample of each of the grains you have and lightly roast them in a pan to bring out the flavors you'd get in the baked final product. And then taste them individually to know their unique flavors and qualities. Take notes of what you experience, what they remind you of, etc. Then, try combining them based on complimentary and contrasting characteristics in your notes. You'll probably quickly find combinations that go in the direction you want.

  • @contactkelvinsim
    @contactkelvinsim Před 2 lety +1

    I love how you share the many small steps you took before you went for the big leaps! Life lessons for everyone... baking or otherwise!

  • @mywebfoot72
    @mywebfoot72 Před 3 lety +4

    Yes, pretoasting seeds like sesame and sunflower adds so much fragrance! But the water ratio for pre soaking will have to be nudged up too.

  • @FuerzaNaturalPan
    @FuerzaNaturalPan Před 3 lety +2

    For multigrain bread, I use a blend of seeds including sesame, flax, chia, sunflower y pumpkin. Before soak them I roast the seeds altogether in my oven in the minimal temperature. After that I stop the roast process with adding cold water to the seeds. The mix takes a very nice smell and adds a amazing flavour to the bread.
    I send to you a big hug from Uruguay!

    • @FamousAmos120
      @FamousAmos120 Před rokem

      Thank you! Great idea, roasting them first.

  • @AssaadHakim
    @AssaadHakim Před 3 lety +9

    after a long period of trial and error with multigrain/multiseed I've found that these 5 grains work for me the best as taste and texture
    - pumpkin - sunflower - flaxseed - oats - black sesame -
    I also found that soaking them is the best practice, and folding them in later on in the process is better than mixing them with the dough at the start.

    • @Rob_430
      @Rob_430 Před 3 lety +1

      I also add inclusions in at pre shape to avoid any interference with fermentation.

    • @lydiapetra1211
      @lydiapetra1211 Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing...how long do you soak them?

    • @AssaadHakim
      @AssaadHakim Před 2 lety +1

      @@lydiapetra1211 i add hot to boiling water, usually 90% of the weight of the grains and let the grains soak in all the water. I let it cool completely down to room temp before adding them to the dough

    • @lydiapetra1211
      @lydiapetra1211 Před 2 lety

      @@AssaadHakim Thanks so very much!

  • @user-ey9bt7fs6n
    @user-ey9bt7fs6n Před 3 lety +1

    Just a simple home baker 👩‍🍳, but couldn’t live without a digital scale. Keep up the great work. Love your vids!

  • @carsonleonard8780
    @carsonleonard8780 Před 3 lety +2

    I love toasted flax seeds, sesame, sunflower, pumpkin, and millet, the toasted sesame flavor is incredible

  • @fernandoperezc.7036
    @fernandoperezc.7036 Před 3 lety +2

    Yes, pumpkin, flax and sunflower seeds work wonderfully.

  • @MrRocksoil
    @MrRocksoil Před 3 lety +2

    A local Baker in my hometown here in uk used to bake a white bloomer loaf containing soft kibble maize plus sunflower and pumpkin seed which was totally delicious

  • @dojoswitzer
    @dojoswitzer Před 3 lety +2

    I just tried my first multigrain bread test loaf and surprisingly wanted to eat the bread plain. 1c water, 3/8c cracked wheat, 3/8c rolled oats, 1/4c flaxseed meal, 1-1/4c bread flour, 1/4c whole wheat flour, 1/4t gluten, 2T sugar, 1t salt, 2T butter, 3T dry milk, 1t yeast. (Sorry, I am still converting my recipes to mass instead of volume, wish I had a scale sensitive enough to measure 1/4t of gluten, and I am still baking with yeast.) I use a 25 year old bread maker for the mixing & first rise, stretched it a bit, and baked in a dutch over after the second rise. My loaf was pretty dense. Reminded me of German bread. (I may try in creasing the % of whole wheat flour next loaf. A piece or two of the cracked wheat might have benefited from soaking.)

  • @danielamoran6817
    @danielamoran6817 Před 3 lety +8

    Grains combination? You can find information or inspiration in the diferent breads that are made in Sweden, Denmark, Island and Norway. You can soak them over night in warm kefir or Skir, etc. ( You put the seeds in warm kefir, you let It cool and then you put the bowl with the seeds in your fridge).

  • @norwayking351
    @norwayking351 Před 3 lety +8

    Ive tried some mixes at the bakery i work at but my favoritt that i've tried is with malted whole rye, oats, sesame, sunflower and linseeds.

  • @YllaStar95970
    @YllaStar95970 Před 3 lety +1

    Always 'scaling up' a growing successful business!
    Getting everything scaled off, really reduces the wide margins of change in the finished product= Less Stress!💆

  • @jonathancamm
    @jonathancamm Před 3 lety +3

    Not related to grain use, but I love to fold in fresh ground peppercorns into my sourdough to add an warm, earthy kick in the loaf.

  • @billmccaffrey1977
    @billmccaffrey1977 Před 3 lety +19

    Over this past year, I have focused on whole grain and multigrain breads using both soakers and mashes. I have tried a half dozen combos and none were really bad flavor wise, but texture failed in some cases, I found that if you make a cracker or flatbread out of the combo first, you can get a better idea of the flavor and some idea of the texture. Texture was harder to nail down. Each grain seems to have a different optimal soak time. Have fun experimenting.

    • @sheilam4964
      @sheilam4964 Před 3 lety +4

      @Bill McCattrey - You have pointed out something that is rarely taken into account when making multigrain 'anything', the optimal soak time of each grain. Something I don't think anyone has taken into account. This is something I find unpleasant in multigrain foods, some of the grains are cooked and some of the grains are almost raw. Soaking each grain to its 'optimal soak' would alleviate this inconsistancy thoughout the food item and probably bring out the full flavor of each grain used. Thank you for sharing this observation as a suggestion for multigrain breads. I'll be giving it a try.

    • @severoon
      @severoon Před 3 lety

      @@sheilam4964 Along the lines of optimal soak time, when I make porridge bread I cover the pot while simmering until it gets close to the texture I want, then uncover and let off the amount of moisture to get the right rato of water to grain.
      For instance with oat groat porridge I find the final ratio is 60% groat to 40% water, but I ferment them in about 3x water by weight. It all goes in the pot, salt, and simmer until the groats have softened 90% to where I want them. Uncover and cook down to final desired weight. No guesswork involved, perfectly reproducible.

    • @sheilam4964
      @sheilam4964 Před 3 lety +1

      @@severoon I'm talking about multi-grains (wheat, oats, barley, flax, etc all combined) and not separate grains. Also not ground (flour). Each grain in the mix has an 'optimal soak time', each type of grain in the mix needs a different soak time to reach the break down of its bran. Thanks for your comment. These are conversations that we should be sharing.

    • @jordanrunningh
      @jordanrunningh Před rokem +1

      @@sheilam4964 Thank you for sharing that. I have always avoided multigrain in my selection because it doesn’t come out the way that it should.
      Now, I’m going to do more research on soak times.

  • @brettf.8431
    @brettf.8431 Před 3 lety +4

    Hey , great video. I work at an artisan bakery here in Roanoke VA. I am the mixer at the bakery and we make 4 different breads each with their different soakers. I'd be happy to try and answer any questions. Thanks so much for the content. I have applied a lot of what you teach here into my own work.

    • @mssmgirl1
      @mssmgirl1 Před 3 lety

      Why do seeds need to be soaked?

    • @Rob_430
      @Rob_430 Před 3 lety +2

      @@mssmgirl1 otherwise they would absorb the water in the dough, and lower the hydration, plus it softens them.

    • @mssmgirl1
      @mssmgirl1 Před 3 lety +1

      Thank you! That makes sense! Blessings.

    • @lydiapetra1211
      @lydiapetra1211 Před 2 lety

      @@Rob_430 Thanks for explaining it! Do you drain the water or does it absorb all the water? How long do you soak them? Do you put them in just before baking? Thanks so very much!

  • @karpetech
    @karpetech Před 3 lety +2

    Another amazing video. I Have been dying for Saturday so I can bake. I will be doing it with all fresh-milled wheat. Wish me luck. Thank you for your inspiration.

  • @williammoss3949
    @williammoss3949 Před 3 lety +2

    At the bakery I work in we have an amazing-tasting seeded loaf that is poppy seed, sunflower seed and linseed (ratio 1:2:2). We soak the seeds for around 24 hours in cold water with 40g of water per loaf (loaf being 1kg).

  • @PacMan257
    @PacMan257 Před 3 lety +2

    My current favorite grain mix is, spelt, kamut, rye and whole wheat.

  • @bcpr9812
    @bcpr9812 Před 3 lety +22

    "Just get a digital scale, already"
    Amen. A digital kitchen scale for home use is pretty cheap, these days. $20 (CAD, probably could get a bit cheaper in USD) for a Starfrit 5 kg capacity scale. It's an invaluable kitchen tool.

    • @cuttwice3905
      @cuttwice3905 Před 3 lety +3

      It makes life easier. I argued with my mother, of blessed memory, about his. She did not understand why my baking was much better than hers. She thought volume was good enough. I proved otherwise. She grumbled that it was one more thing on the counter. Since I was doing almost all the cooking and baking we did it my way.

    • @audreywinter6910
      @audreywinter6910 Před 3 lety +2

      I've never had a kitchen without a scale, not by myself or at my parents' house and I am totally lost when I find these volume measurement recipes online and have to convert it because I really want to try out THIS specific bread or cake. It's just not as accurate as I need it to be.

  • @justinbouchard
    @justinbouchard Před 3 lety +7

    Ive been using flax and sunflower for my seeded bread. Not really grains I guess but it's a fab flavor. If you haven't experimented with spelt or spelt flour I find that good spelt flour has an amazing almond extract aroma. Borderline cherry. The flavor is also there but subtle. I used to make a 100% spelt bread with an overnight autolyse. It's been over a decade since I've made that bread and I can still smell it when I think of it.

    • @mssmgirl1
      @mssmgirl1 Před 3 lety

      Share the recipe Justin... sounds AMAZING, would love to give it a try... just an amateur home baker here. Blessings

    • @justinbouchard
      @justinbouchard Před 3 lety +3

      @@mssmgirl1 The spelt recipe is just 100% spelt flour. I believe I did an auto lyse with 65% of the flour and all of the water. It's been years and lost the recipe.
      100% flour
      65% water
      1% yeast, could go less if you wanted.
      1% salt
      I don't remember my timings but I made the autolyse the day before adding the final 35% of the flour and following a basic yeast bread procedure at room temperature When it doubles redistribute, rest, then portion and shape. I made mine into loaves that I rose on linen sheets. When doubled I baked them. 400F. Only did decorative scoring. They don't break open. There is gluten development in the dough with 100%spelt but not a ton.

    • @justinbouchard
      @justinbouchard Před 3 lety

      Hope that helps!

    • @mssmgirl1
      @mssmgirl1 Před 3 lety

      Justin B. Thank you so much! I actually prefer this kind of recipe, because I can make as little or as much as I want. I usually use 500gr. Flour for one loaf of bread, so this is great! It’s only two of us home... but once they taste the “home made bread” I have tons of clients (kids and grandkids)👍🏼😉

    • @justinbouchard
      @justinbouchard Před 3 lety +1

      @@mssmgirl1 you're welcome :). I use bakers percentage for everything in my life that I can lol

  • @AnthonyoCarllos
    @AnthonyoCarllos Před 3 lety +1

    I'm down here in the southern part of Brazil and sourdough has given me a new sense in bread baking! I have been using sunflower seeds, linseeds, chia seeds, and rolled oates. My sourdough sometimes I autolysed with beer , pilsen mostly and 300 grms of all purpose flour 100 of whole wheat flour, 68% of hydration and 2% of salt. A can not get any bread flour neither a good flour with high quality. Just wondering , why you soak those seeds? It is just the fact of blending it better or has to do with developing a better flavour?? BY the way, thank you for sharing a great deal of knowledge, it's been helping me bake better loaves of bread!!

  • @callummy3250
    @callummy3250 Před 3 lety +1

    One of my favourites over the years has been a trumalt, linseed (flax) and oat sometimes with a little extra bran

  • @ianlaker9161
    @ianlaker9161 Před 3 lety

    Hurrah! Support for my hate of the incongruous cup measurement. I'm English (in England) and am used to metric for years, for my baking and beer brewing and cooking generally, At 60 I'm certainly old enough to remember when we used imperial measurements here but give me metric any day. It's so simple! Love your videos BTW!

  • @revrita1157
    @revrita1157 Před 3 lety +9

    In organic farming we take seeds and grain and soak it for two to three days in non-chlorinated water. It ferments the grain and and becomes extremely nutritious for the farm animals and it doubles the feed. By the second or third day you will even see sprouting begin. I wonder if that technique could possibly enhance your bread. The fermentation helps the grain become more easily digestible and it helps the good probiotics grow for intestinal heal.

    • @revrita1157
      @revrita1157 Před 3 lety +1

      Health.

    • @amandazemke5765
      @amandazemke5765 Před 3 lety +1

      Heal worked too:) yes to all this

    • @AlexRawlings
      @AlexRawlings Před 3 lety

      Stopping the soaking at the point of sprouting and then drying the grain is the process for making malted grains and eventually malted flour.

  • @robynwilson842
    @robynwilson842 Před 3 lety +1

    Sesame, sunflower and oats are my favorite

  • @huskav
    @huskav Před 3 lety +1

    I've sprouted organic barley then dry them off and then grind them to become powder, I use two spoonfull for each loaf which make them chocalate brown.

  • @primeribviking3688
    @primeribviking3688 Před 3 lety

    For home baking i make a loaf with 10grain cereal from bobs red mill because its what we have available. I add ground flax. Cover with a 3:1 boiling water to cereal, mix and let sit covered for 20 mins to cook then chill down to the 90's in temp. I usually do a broken up mix with autolyse but I found with this a direct mix of everything for low speed at 8 mins and med speed for 2. Then ferment stretch and fold for 3 hrs. Shape . Overnight refrigerator sleep. Bake the next day. It makes amazing toast that soaks up eggs well

  • @robnewburn3684
    @robnewburn3684 Před 3 lety +1

    I enjoy watching your clips, I’m a home sourdough baker here in Australia and my Multigrain loaves generally include; sunflower seeds, pepitas, hemp seeds, chia seeds, linseeds and about 50 grams of oats so a total of 150 grams of “mixture added to the dough. I’ve tried both soaking and no soaking and really haven’t found any difference in taste or texture.
    I think you could use whatever the seeds that you like and next loaf will include pumpkin seeds? I’m sure any of your Multigrain grain products and variances will still be well received and enjoyed by all those who purchase them.
    Cheers

  • @Humancanvas
    @Humancanvas Před 3 lety +1

    We do kibbled wheat, kibbled corn, kibbled rye, Malted wheat, linseed, sesame seed and poppy seeds.

  • @mmee9121
    @mmee9121 Před 3 lety +5

    Buckwheat, Barley, Quinoa and Oats. Find the oats add a creaminess to the bread

  • @Manu-mx9jd
    @Manu-mx9jd Před 3 lety

    I enjoy poppy and sesame seeds a lot in my multi grain. If you coat the loaf in sesame seeds before baking it makes a beautiful crust.

  • @Rob_430
    @Rob_430 Před 3 lety

    I’m a home bread baker and experimented making a seeded sourdough loaf in my bread machine, all the way. I have the Zojirushi which I can program for sourdough, and being summer, I don’t use the oven, so it baked perfect in the Zo. I added flax, quinoa and 7 grain cereal, no soaking, since this program took 11 hours, mix, knead, rises, and baking. Came out really good, better than when I do a SD sandwich loaf by hand.

  • @SweetHopeCookies
    @SweetHopeCookies Před 3 lety +3

    Just added my sourdough starter to the dough to rest for a bit before starting my series of stretch and fold, pour hot water over my seed mix (chia, poppy, flax, sesame, no sunflower or caraway today) to soak, and came over to CZcams and lo and behold found this video waiting! I agree that multi-seeds ends up not having the separate flavors stand out but I actually like the blended flavor and look a multi-blend creates.

  • @mickyboy223
    @mickyboy223 Před 3 lety +1

    We use golden linseed, brown linseed sunflower seeds, millet seed and poppy seed..

  • @dejanstancu
    @dejanstancu Před 3 lety +4

    Just few days ago I started making my loaves with grains that are leftovers from artisan beer makeing... Until now, the baltic porter mix is my favorit one. Would like to know your opinion on this tipe of grain usage.

  • @nancyjenkins8617
    @nancyjenkins8617 Před 26 dny

    Sounds so much a good idea to try

  • @jaeockjo3611
    @jaeockjo3611 Před 3 lety +7

    I've had some small success with flax, sesame, quinoa, sunflower and pumpkin seeds. Sounds like a lot but they seem to blend together really well.

  • @michaellupu2080
    @michaellupu2080 Před 3 lety +2

    My favorite seed combination is Pumpkin, flax, poppy, and a bit of toasted sesame and raw proso millet, which adds a slight bitterness and texture.
    Your video inspired me to see what sort of influence each of these seeds have on the flavor of the loaf; I'll divide a batch of dough into six, add one seed type into each (one will be plain as a control) and see.
    May I ask how do you deal will the gel like slime that comes out of soaked flaxseeds? I find that It's almost impossible to wash off..

  • @marcelochiarelli1999
    @marcelochiarelli1999 Před 3 lety

    I usually bake multigrain loaf and my preferred seed combinations are chia, brown flaxseed, golden flaxseed and sesame seeds

  • @cravescatesbread5022
    @cravescatesbread5022 Před 3 lety

    I use flax, pumpkin, hulled sunflower, rolled oats, sesame seeds...quite often for my multi grain breads.

  • @asderven
    @asderven Před 3 lety +8

    I haven't reached this stage yet, but I would recommend to look into grain combinations across different cultures that they use traditionally in sweets, breads, cooking and cuisine generally. This might give you a stepping board to get an idea of how to do things. In the punjbai cuisine flax seeds are used, but their taste is strong so we cut down their ratio. Cumin, fennel, sun flower, pumpkin, black caraway and loads other are used. Try them out in a dish if you have local restaurants with authentic cooks. Otherwise just follow a toasting recipe and toast each grain, see how they scent changes, how the taste changes from raw to toasted, put them in 2~7 different groups. Mix the different groups over time. Cookies and buns are the easiest ways to test out toasted/raw grains in a baked product as a final test of proof of concept.
    If you can't find local restaurants, see if you can talk with the elders of the people working there, not the actual people, their parents, grandparents. They usually have a whole lot more experience in things that kids are not aware of. My mom, aunts are amazing cooks, but if I want to understand the taste, history, uses and the general situation of an ingredient I would always ask the different grandmothers in the extended family.

  • @matuskricko
    @matuskricko Před 3 lety +1

    nice bakery, nice project, nice concept

  • @John-cr7gb
    @John-cr7gb Před 3 lety

    I add winter red wheat berries that I have boiled then simmered in honey and brown ale for a couple of hours. I keep them in the liquid in the fridge until i am ready to dip some out for a loaf.
    To the same loaf I add rolled oats, white and black sesame seeds, dried minced garlic and raw salted sunflower seeds. Works out well for me.....

  • @brentgale
    @brentgale Před rokem

    The sourdough multigrain mix I use is buckwheat, quinoa, flax, sunflower and pepitas. The ratio I use is 20g of each for the 400g bread flour, 50g whole grain rye flour and 50g whole grain wheat per loaf and my wife and I enjoy this recipe more than any store or bakery bought loaf.

  • @markr3991
    @markr3991 Před 3 lety

    Spent grains from brewing, yum.

  • @linzimacdonald1580
    @linzimacdonald1580 Před 3 lety

    Soy beans and Linseeds are our favourite combination 👌🏼

  • @jamesmaruca3437
    @jamesmaruca3437 Před 3 lety +1

    In Canada you can get a "cooking cereal" called Red River cereal. I have often used this as my grain if I'm making multi-grain bread. It's a really nice nutty flavour. Doesn't taste like the usual multi grain or 7grain breads. Red River tastes very distinct and delicious.
    I'd be happy to send you a box if you want to examine it to try to make your own, because as I said, I believe it's only available in Canada. Here is a wiki link en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_River_Cereal

  • @massimoparisi4149
    @massimoparisi4149 Před 3 lety +1

    I usually lightly toast sunflower and pumpkin seeds then add to the soak poppy seeds and black sesame and flaxseeds. The secret is to dust the crust with poppy which gives a great aroma .Try it

  • @Guram_Zhgamadze
    @Guram_Zhgamadze Před 3 lety

    I love soaked flax seeds, toasted black and white sesame and toasted sunflower seeds together

  • @jullianodebride2982
    @jullianodebride2982 Před 3 lety +1

    Hello im a baker out of Austin,Tx. I find it really flavorful to innoculate the 2:1 water:seed mix with some leftover starter for 24 hours, instead of just using hot water for 1 hour.Also, it makes the seed mix a lot more digestible because of the innoculation from the lacto bascillus. Than i go into mix. Love your content btw. Would love to come to Arizona and work a weekend with you guys!

    • @jullianodebride2982
      @jullianodebride2982 Před 3 lety

      But for a seed mix, i havent found out exactly what i love for my formula either.

    • @ProofBread
      @ProofBread  Před 3 lety +2

      Love this idea!! Wow, I’m blown away with the great thoughts on grains! You are welcome to come! Email me and we can make it happen. If you want to see the garage before we go retail next year, let’s do it before December. I’m sad this very capable facility has to change.

    • @mattevans-koch9353
      @mattevans-koch9353 Před 3 lety +2

      @@ProofBread Keep the garage shop as a research and development facility where you can make small batches without getting in the way of the retail operation.

    • @johngroaun7767
      @johngroaun7767 Před 3 lety

      .

  • @DianePahl
    @DianePahl Před 3 lety +1

    It also helps, periodically, to calibrate your digital scales.

  • @brittanykasha4825
    @brittanykasha4825 Před 2 lety

    I just thought of this as a non baker and thought hey this must be a thing so thank you for making this video. Can’t wait to try it out. Also can you use tree nut flower in the mix?

  • @johnberard330
    @johnberard330 Před 3 lety +1

    Celery seed adds a nice flavor note.

  • @Mike-fk9xj
    @Mike-fk9xj Před 3 lety +1

    We used to make spent grain cinnamon rolls that were awesome.

    • @JCNvid
      @JCNvid Před 3 lety

      more info please!!!!

  • @mazinsafar
    @mazinsafar Před 3 lety +2

    John, try:
    1 part fennel seed
    4 parts blackseed, and
    4 parts sunflower seed.
    No soaking needed.
    This is my ultimate grain sourdough bread that I’ve been baking at home for the last 2+ years.

    • @mssmgirl1
      @mssmgirl1 Před 3 lety

      Sounds yummy! Thank you for sharing, will give it a tryout, also seems very healthy! Blessings

    • @mssmgirl1
      @mssmgirl1 Před 3 lety

      What is black seed?

    • @mazinsafar
      @mazinsafar Před 3 lety +1

      Denise Koffroth,
      Black seed (aka Black Cumin, aka Nagella Sativa, aka Kalonji) is a super nutritious seed commonly found over here in the Middle East. It has a distinct floral flavor and is used mainly in baked dishes, especially breads.
      It looks, as the names suggests, like a black seed and is closer in shape to black sesame.
      I think you may find it online under one of the above (many) names :)

    • @mssmgirl1
      @mssmgirl1 Před 3 lety +1

      Mazin Al-Sufyani How sweet of you to reply! Thank you so much. I live in Mexico, will try to get them and give your recipe a try. Blessings

    • @mazinsafar
      @mazinsafar Před 3 lety +1

      Denise Koffroth
      My pleasure, Denise. Good luck :)

  • @stavone12
    @stavone12 Před 3 lety +3

    1:50 THE MOMENT HE SAID GRAMS I FELL IN LOVE!

  • @michaloren2163
    @michaloren2163 Před 3 lety +3

    i prefer to toast sunflower & sesame because it intensifies their flavor
    and soak flex because he can change the consistency if you don’t soak it
    i agree that it’s better not mixing too much variety of seeds and grains

  • @hey-its-me-bobby-D
    @hey-its-me-bobby-D Před 3 lety +2

    I like to roast the barley before adding it to my dough. Sort of like for mugicha (Japanese roasted barley tea. I also like to saute steel cut oats before adding to the same loaf. Sauteing the oats brings out the sweetness of the oats. Not sure that would be practical for your operation though.

  • @bigdteakettle8989
    @bigdteakettle8989 Před 3 lety

    My mom made what the recipe called a whole wheat multigrain bread. It had old fashioned oats, triticale and 50/50 mix of whole wheat and white flour. It was sweetened with local honey. This was in the 70s when she started making it and at that time about the only flour we could find was Gold Medal AP. I remember her using other flaked grains in it from time to time but I don't remember what they were. I have just started my journey with sourdough and I want to make a multigrain sandwich loaf. I have been working on my wife for over 30 years trying to get through her head that the bread she buys at the grocery store is not good for her but it is in one ear and out the other. I am interested in what you come up with. I have been baking sourdough now twice a week trying to build my stamina back up after having Covid and have been giving away more bread than I'm keeping to eat and I know it is blessing some people and I am going to keep baking as much as possible and hopefully 3 times a week in the near future. I always enjoy your videos and thank you for sharing your hard-earned knowledge.

  • @nickcollura8519
    @nickcollura8519 Před 3 lety

    I would assume applying things like the japanese koji technique and other types of fermentations to the grains would bring nice nuance of flavor

  • @juanmanuellaprovitta1045
    @juanmanuellaprovitta1045 Před 3 lety +3

    Primer comentario!; excelente video. Saludos desde Argentina, al sur del mundo.

    • @mssmgirl1
      @mssmgirl1 Před 3 lety

      Saludos desde Guadalajara, Mexico 🇲🇽. Bendiciones

  • @hey-its-me-bobby-D
    @hey-its-me-bobby-D Před 3 lety +1

    does each grain have a different hydration rate?

  • @mikequorn
    @mikequorn Před 3 lety

    Scales are always the best, and I'm guessing that most home bakers won't have to worry about the more expensive scale. Tip for using a fill line for measurement: look at the fill level with the vessel at eye level for most accuracy. But check by weighing! ;-)

  • @curtissmith3498
    @curtissmith3498 Před 3 lety +2

    Try toasting your seeds, gives amazing depth to taste.... Curry, Garam Masala... they, Indians, always toast the seeds/spices/ingredients. You know... it's the oils ...so...
    CHEERS!!

  • @Groet
    @Groet Před 3 lety

    I am a baker but I don't have a set ratio of seeds and whole grains that is ideal in bread. The only seed that is so pungent that it really leaves a distinct flavor is onion seeds. I personally am not a fan but we use it at the bakery in very small quantity in some bread but you can still taste it. The classic combination that a lot of bakers use is probably a lot for the visual component, It just looks nice on the bread. Sunflower, pumpkin, sesame and flaxseeds.

  • @chocolvr931
    @chocolvr931 Před 3 lety

    We don't do anything crazy. We make a 5 grain with sunflower, flaxseed, pumpkin, sesame, and oats. But we toast the sesame, pumpkin and sunflower. All of the seeds in the same proportion with the water in the soaker being 60 % of the weight of all the seeds. The soaker adds up to 25% of the flour's weight. It's a pretty common recipe but it has a nice toasty flavor and a really soft crumb.

  • @gregglutz4690
    @gregglutz4690 Před 3 lety +1

    I recently used a cracked spelt that gave the bread a malty beer flavor. The soaked spelt seems to melt away in the bake.

  • @lazyjake93
    @lazyjake93 Před 3 lety

    Pumpkin and sesame seeds work great

  • @aurelien8953
    @aurelien8953 Před 3 lety

    Her I use 50% white flour, 50% whole flour for flour mix.
    Then 20% sunflower seeds (compared to flour weight), 10% flax seeds, 10% sesame seeds.
    20% white sourdough.
    Hydratation 88%.
    Salt 2%.
    I mix all of these and I add water by hand during the fermentation if I fell it is needed..
    Proofing time 4h to 5h, depending on the weather and all of parameters... I work in ambient temperature.
    Maybe one of the trick is that I use hot water : 100F = 37C.
    Final temperature of the dough after mixing is 80F.
    The flavor are really great. I will try this week to roast the sunflower seeds. People say they find flavors they do not find in any other multigrain bread, except maybe in germany...
    I love to use the flaxseeds "as it is" because I love the viscousity that it added to the dough, like we can experience when adding some rye flour for example. The shaping is very soft. Viscousity is sufficient to help the dough to stay consistent.
    Thank you for the video ! Thank you for the comments !

    • @aurelien8953
      @aurelien8953 Před 3 lety

      For temperature. Temperature is very important for the behaviour of seeds. They need to be warm enough to express their flavour and eventually germinate.

  • @JCNvid
    @JCNvid Před 3 lety

    HI guys, I am going for malted grain. The variety is such you can go where ever you want. coffee, caramel, chocolate, smoke, sweet, etc

  • @cachi-7878
    @cachi-7878 Před 3 lety +1

    I agree with you Jon that you should always weigh your ingredients, however, regarding your 4 liter measurement, you did not do that correctly. You were holding the bucket slightly tilted and there was no way you were going to get that exactly right. If you look at the amount of water you added afterwards, that was because you were handholding the bucket.

  • @pablofrias6189
    @pablofrias6189 Před 3 lety +1

    I use linseed, poppy seed and sesame seeds (both black and white) for my seeded loafs, I found that combination to be pretty good so you might wanna try it and tell me what you think about it ;)

  • @PacMan257
    @PacMan257 Před 3 lety

    Love my KD8000 scale.

  • @sloanfestge8801
    @sloanfestge8801 Před 3 lety +1

    zero dislikes rn, as it should be

  • @BrandonMSwan
    @BrandonMSwan Před 3 lety

    That measure line is only close to accurate on a level surface with your eyes level to it. When you read it while filling with your hand under it, you both brought your eyes down closer to level with the line and tilt the whole container towards you, raising the water on that side of the tub slightly and distorting the measurement. That said, you're certainly right that the scale is more accurate and easier imo.

  • @ajkumnick
    @ajkumnick Před 3 lety

    20% sprouted rye 8% flax seed soaked in boiling water 4% sunflower, sprouted rye gives a lovely grassy flavour

  • @raymondlee2546
    @raymondlee2546 Před 2 lety

    What is the minimum grains for multigrain?

  • @paulychannel7914
    @paulychannel7914 Před 3 lety

    Try linseeds , soy grits, cooked arborio rice & toasted sunflower seeds.

  • @soniacosgrove
    @soniacosgrove Před 3 lety +1

    Just get a scale already 😂 Great video - This is an area I need practice in.
    Q - I may have missed this... How long do you soak the grains for before using in your dough? Thank you!

    • @esalenchik
      @esalenchik Před 3 lety

      Sonia Cosgrove 0:31

    • @soniacosgrove
      @soniacosgrove Před 3 lety +1

      @@esalenchik Thank you!

    • @esalenchik
      @esalenchik Před 3 lety +1

      Sonia Cosgrove You’re welcome, Sonia. I hope your multigrain is yummy 😋

  • @paulpurser8864
    @paulpurser8864 Před 3 lety

    I like to make bread with chipped wheat, sunflower seeds, oats and flax.

  • @scaryperry19
    @scaryperry19 Před rokem

    Anyone know if I require 4,000 ml. of water, is that the same measurement as 4k grams?

  • @Ninjalectual
    @Ninjalectual Před 2 lety

    Carraway, sunflower, and dill seeds

  • @ArchLinuxTux
    @ArchLinuxTux Před 3 lety +1

    @John, volume fails , go get two different sets of measuring cups. Fill them and weigh the contents... two different measurements.

  • @surdokid
    @surdokid Před 3 lety

    Try to soak your grains in beer with a lot of flavor like Belgium beers. A good one is La Chouffe or a Dutch one, La Trappe tripple trappist. In the US you have Spencer Trappist. Anyway there are hundreds of tasteful brands. Succes 😀

  • @ollylin9338
    @ollylin9338 Před 3 lety

    Rolled oats, sesame, sunflower, golden linseed.