Fuji X-H1: Even Better than the X-T2, But...
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The X-H1 is an incredibly appealing camera that will make a compelling case to many that neither full frame nor micro four thirds are the ideal format: APS-C is. And yet with all of the cameras coming out now -- and remember, the X-H1 is less than a year old -- it has been eclipsed in some ways even my its new baby brother the X-T3.
I remembered to make that point.
But I forgot to mention the Pez-sized batteries (a minor pain while in production) and the fact that the X-H1 breaks up recording into 3.5 gigabyte chunks (a major pain in post).
And I really need to take a closer look at the AF technology.
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Thanks Jeff Goldblum fantastic review.
With the price drop of the X-H1 WITH grip to $1299 makes it a great choice. The silence of the shutter in mechanical mode is alone worth the price.
And now it's only $999 WITH the grip! I picked up a 9 condition used X-H1 with a battery grip from B&H for less than $850!
“One generation away from being spectacular” is certainly ringing true these days
I absolutely enjoy all the reviews you put out. Thank you for really taking the time to compare and discuss so many leveled of pros and cons on all these cameras.
So glad you do! 🙏🏻
I do weddings and use a GFX for portraits and key moments. I couple this with an XH-1and because they look the same - no-one knows but me and my assistant - seriously for the reportage stuff the XH-1 aces the GFX because it is faster in everything - terrible lag with the GFX but the two together integrate seamlessly!
Nelson Club Thanks for sharing your real-world experience!
Everytime I watch your channel i learn so much. But its worth mentioning that i constantly think a Dinasour
is about to come out of nowhere b/c your voice and mannerism remind me so much of Jeff Goldblum. Keep up the good work!
Great actor!
Nicely done, as usual. What a great time for the photo/video world. Cheers-
Came across this video while doing some late night camera video browsing and was just enamored by your analysis. Couldn't stop watching and immediately subscribed & liked.
Josh Miller Welcome to the community!
Light the scene, and then expose properly...I’m working on that. LOL! I had a good laugh with that comment. I’m working on that too. After only 40 years. To be honest the comment of the image printed on your wall at 27X48 from the small sensor camera held particular interest. iso 100!
It's incredible (the image, and maybe that it's taking both of us so long to get lighting and exposure right). ;)
Really love to watch your videos near bedtime. I sleep fast and have nice dreams .. do enjoy what I learn from your vids too.
You’re like listening to NPR.
Amazing review is Just really helpful every thought you give in everyone of you videos, thanks a lot.
Glad you found it useful!
Enjoyed watching this video bud - Thanks for doing what you do!
Very professionally put together. A great review. Waiting for mine to arrive.
Ian Kydd'Miller enjoy!
An interesting review, as a Fuji xt1 and x70 owner i use old vintage lenses on my xt1 .. I'm tempted to get the Xh1 as a vintage test bed for my old lenses. The Xt1 is a lovely camera and capable perhaps a lot more that it's user. However IBIS would be great for all the m42 lenses I use.. Thank you for your review. Quality with a touch of character.
I love watching your videos, they inspire me even when the trolls come out and try to tell me to stop making photos/videos. :-)
Keep going! :)
Not only I really appreciate your reviews, I am mesmerized by your tone, timing and narration style. You should REALLY consider reading AudioBooks. You have that tone and performance needed. Fantastic.
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Another excellent and well-thought through video, Hugh. While I realize that your particular requirements are more video-centric than mine, I've been shooting with my X-H1 all weekend long for the last race of my motor racing season. With its "older" sensor and image processor, it doesn't have the newest, latest and greatest AF system of the newer X-T3. But, let's be honest, the very latest AF systems from Sony & Fujifilm are now differentiating themselves only at the _very extremes_ of performance. And, the AF system of the X-H1 is more good enough for what I do, & I push AF systems pretty damn hard, as you well know. What I _am_ consistently blown away by though, is the out-and-out of the image quality from the X-H1 for stills photography. Even though it has the same sensor/processor of the X-T2, this camera clearly outperforms the X-T2 for absolute image quality using the same lenses. I attribute this to the X-H1 being manufactured to incredibly tight optical tolerances so it is capable of extracting the maximum optical performance from any of the fine range of Fujinon lenses, but most importantly for the just released 200mm f/2 and MK cine lenses that it was specifically designed for. Wrapping up, I am 100% agreement with you that by combining the sensor and image processor of the X-T3 with the IBIS, body, controls, robustness, _and_ optical tolerances of the X-H1, the "X-H2" can be predicted to be a *spectacular* camera. My best regards, Stephen
Stephen, your auto racing photographs taken with the your Fuji’s give up nothing to full frame. You are one of the people who motivated me to look at the X-H1 in the first place (but you knew this). 😉 just got the X-T3 in hand and will explore it more deeply while we’re in Europe. My single biggest question is the AF technology for video: it appears to me that every Fuji lens I’ve tested thus far that blows me away is using linear motors. This is not an issue for stills (your images and skill prove the point), but it is an issue for video. I’ll have to look more closely into this! Thoughts?
Hi Hugh, unfortunately, I can't really speak to the AF performance for video. I personally am of the view that the X-H1 was specifically designed for use with the manual focus MK Cine lenses, but from what I've seen with the X-T3, it looks like its AF performance for video will be better than the X-H1 with linear motor lenses. I really look forward to your X-T3 experiences! Meanwhile, I've got a race to shoot today! Best, Stephen
I know you'll have fun AND create stellar images, Stephen. Enjoy!
Thanks, Hugh! Another long hard day of work lies ahead! Ha! I completely passed out last night when I got home, and was dead to the world. Woke up an hour late this morning, but got to the media center the same time as everyone else today, so I guess other folks slept in a little too. This is HARD work. LOL. I'll post some pics in the 3BMEP FB group!
Agreed! If you are a sports or wildlife photographer I can understand the need for - say - X-T3's 30 frames a second BURST, but for most users, the improvements in the X-T3 will be invisible. Same can be said for video, who really needs 10-bit? That being said it's always great to see Fuji innovate, so it's definitely a good thing, but my point is that most improvements in the X-T3 won't make a difference to the average user, thus, as you well put it, the X-T2 and X-H1 older generation is quite good enough already.
Mensch, the best review on my XH1 ever thank you all the questions I had not gotten anywhere else. Mazel.
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Great review Hugh. Your conclusion about Hx-1 being ‘one generation away’, is exactly how I feel about switching from the GH5 (As a video centric user that needs to record beyond 29 mins). I’m loving what Fuji is doing! There is something poetic in their imaging aesthetics!
Another excellent, thoughtful discussion. I am definitely going to hold that thought, but the advantages of coalescing into the Fuji system are seeming more and more clear.
Eric Bouwens nice to see you here, Eric!
it is June 2022, and I am about to buy this camera. I have bought into the full frame camera ideal and find I never use it to its fullest. Either I need harder jobs or cheaper cameras. I love the light to limit dynamic range, expose correctly statement.
Mensch! Your videos are the best, I can't do without them. A Pro Shooter fro 40 years, Bravo.
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Came here for camera review and got reeled in by this Hollywood grade storyteller. Tell me why this man is not in the movies on the big screen . Just subscribed to the channel and must watch more videos as a lesson in in eloquent speech delivery . By far the most fascinating CZcamsr i have encountered. You are mesmerizing Hugh. Bravo and thanks for the review and Shakespearean delivery.
Mark Tziotis So appreciate your encouragement! Welcome to the community!
I could listen to #CameraTalk all day and night long... ahhhhhh :)
such a joy watching you
your reviews are pure poetry. this channel deserves way more subs! create and refreshingly different content!
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Hugh, ever thought of taking up acting? The Bond franchise is open to offers I believe, hold that thought my friend. Another superbly presented and spoken video by the way.
“I’m so fried” You are awesome!!! ;-)
Great video. I always liked the look of this camera, but like the EOS R it felt just a year too late. Between the GH5s, the A7iii, the X-T3 and the Z6/7, video capability at the prosumer end has grown significantly. That said, both these marginalised cameras still look incredible, and would have been era defining if announced earlier than they were.
I’m gravitating towards the x-h1, more than any other fujifilm camera, or any other camera brand, and I can’t explain why.
Hugh, thank you for convincing me with your calm review to unpack my XH1 that I was about to send off and trade for an XT3!
Your voice has a great tone and nuance and makes your videos really engaging. I may look and see if you’ve done an XT3 video but that may be a bad idea if you love that camera......cheers!
Chewbokeh L I have. Two! 😎
Chewbokeh L I have. Two! 😎
Three Blind Men and An Elephant Productions - okay Hugh, watched both and I think the IBIS is far more valuable to me with my non IS 56mm and 16-55 than the possible AF improvement and possible improved ISO (although I’ve read in places some think that XT3 noise is worse than the XH1/XT2). I don’t do video so those improved XT3 video features are not important. I’m struck by your comment about when the shutter speed is low enough and action slow enough that ‘ibis trumps lens and sensor IQ every time’. Time I think to unpack my XH1, put my strap lugs back on and watch some none camera gear videos; Cheers Hugh for your therapy and sense, Steve.
Chewbokeh L happy to be of service. 😉
If Fuji scrapped the 30min record limit, I would buy two of their cameras tomorrow.
Mad English TV I hope they do!
The "record limit" is only because the EU wanted to protect video recording industry back in 2006. If a digital stills camera could record video, then they wanted to re-classify them as camcorders, and thus be taxed at a higher rate. The solution was to not record video longer than 30 minutes in one single press of the shutter button. (Yes, you can hack that with firmware, or 3rd party software) You beef should be with the EU, not Fujifilm or other camera makers. Yay, bureaucracy!
www.amateurphotographer.co.uk/latest/photo-news/eu-speaks-out-over-camera-import-tax-threat-28462
A solution to the recording limits (due to EU tax) is using an external Recorder. Ninja V was developed together with Fujifilm and adds just so many great features to any camera.
I get so tired of the EU tax complaint. How did Panasonic get around it then? Fuji charge us the tax. we will pay it to get around the limit.
@@mitchellriggs Or have different software for Europe and the rest of the world
Now we have "hold that thought" text applied in post? Holy Futz! Subscribing with notification bell on. 😬
Been wanting to upgrade my xt20 wanted another xt maybe 3 or 30 but seeing this video def helped
what camera/lens combo did you use for this video? its so SHARP!
Nice review, hope the storm doesn't cause too much damage to your neighborhood. I am a BIG fan of high-end APS-C cameras. I would love in the future to be able to choose from a stream of better and better cameras from hotly-competing companies. It is nice that Fuji is continuing to compete against Panasonic and Leica in the APS-C market. The big companies like Nikon, Sony, and Canon are going hot and heavy in the competition for the full-frame market. Hmm, wait, am I missing some other APS-C competitor? Maybe begins with S? Well, I do have an A6300 somewhere on my shelf, but, umm, you know what that was like. True, they got so many complaints that they added IBIS and several other improvements to release the A6500 two years ago. But, why bother to upgrade? After all, it isn't like having an old model would bias me in any way when evaluating the latest releases of competitors.
I'm glad that you at least mentioned a possible new APS-C release in the near future from Sony. Perhaps then we can compare competing offerings again. It is getting hard to navigate the APS-C market space with an invisible 800 pound gorilla moving around in the room.
Disclaimer: some irony was used in the construction of this comment.
Stuart Schaffner Thanks for contributing so thoughtfully to the conversation. It’s been like a tropical rainforest here all summer, but I think Florence won’t reach us in a meaningful way.
It’s bonkers all theses camera. I hope you have a great time in Europe I go to New York in three weeks.....
yup - I currently have the XH1. It is darn near perfect.
I believe the XH2 will be THE ONE.
I will then add the newest Medium Format Fuji has to offer in a couple years and should be set for a good while...
cheers
aquaboneus sounds good to me!
It's amazing how fast Fuji caught up regarding proper video integration. Especially as it's not only specs, but real world performance! Btw.. will we see you at Photokina this month?
Their video is now great. Battery life is a hurdle they need to overcome to make that great video really come to life.
Thank you for your review, nice & deep insights. I think the X-H1 can be seen as a "first gen"-Camera from Fuji with its abilities, especially the Ibis, the build quality and its overall performance. I guess the 2nd Gen will really be something even greater and i hope that Fuji will then install a new battery system that brings at least double the power output. And of course 1 or 2 another new gimmicks, but not entirely necessary. From my point of view, Fuji is on the right way and i'm looking forward for the X-T3 being my first Fuji soon (coming from m4/3 ... haha).
I’ll be taking my X-H1 to the October 6th photo walk.
Looking forward to meeting you there!
Three Blind Men and An Elephant Productions Thanks. Same here.
This is the most accurate X-H1 review on the internet. Too bad the X-H2 won’t come out sooner!
$999 with grip included now!
$699 now!!
@@nelsonclub7722 I dont see that anywhere
James Noodle it’s gone. Only way to get one now is used. The deal mentioned above was a killer.
I just judge by what’s in front of my nose but the quality of this video of you is nothing like as pleasing and sharp as the one you told me was made in the Pan GH5... even tho I really wanted to like the XH1 and buy it tomorrow ;)
RAj Curry There’s a reason we continue using the GH5! 😊
Three Blind Men and An Elephant Productions Thanks! Love how honest your talks are, the bottom line is our equipment has to be better than an iPhone .... and you’re not
afraid to say that .. brilliant!
Mensch! Excellent as usual.
And a new full frame Panasonic, I'm still just waiting for the BMPCC 4k before I decide what to get
I was a R&R bass player. I owned mostly American Fenders. When MusicMan came out with a 5-string I bought it. Why? It was beautiful and also a good player. My first serious camera was an Olympus OM-1. Why did I buy it? It was beautiful. Also a great camera I learned later with still the best light metering system to this day. Sensing a pattern?
I bought into Fuji cameras. Why? The smart ones out there already now. They are beautiful. They also have all the features I was looking for...which again I discovered to my great pleasure...after the fact. I’m not original in saying that the aesthetics of gear one uses is important. I like wearing my silver T3. I also drive a certain car. Why? Not going through that again but you get it. I feel more like a better photographer with Fuji. Am I? Don’t be quick to answer that one, superficial as it may sound.
Fuji XH1 is outstanding and you...
XTRA-terrestrial and no extolling!
The XH1 according to your observations and others seem to be a great camera. However, is it worth it for a still shooter to switch from a whole system to it? Or maybe worth it as a complimentary item to a lineup. My inputs!!!
Your fried? I feel fried from making a choice of which camera system I want to invest into. I enjoy my little Olympus EM10 II and I love the feel of the dials. The Olympus EM-1 seems to be pretty awesome, EM-5 is a bit dated and only has contrast detection. I think all three are well thought out with the design.
Other then a lack of IBIS in the XT-2 and XT-20, I feel in many ways, Fujifilm has more to offer for the price. Even the XT-3 is very aggressive for the price. I can save $400 if I get the Olympus EM-1 with the 12-40mm f2.8 at $2000 but I can also get the Fujifilm XT-2 with the 16-55 f2.8 for only $100 more! I'm going to have to watch this video again. Very good!
The 50-140mm f2.8 IS (pun intended) image stabilised Hugh. (Captions incorrect)
Thanks for the correction!
I have had the X-H1 since the end of February and I think it is the best decision and also the most frustrating decision I have made in years. Upon release, it was massively flawed, the AF was unreliable, the camera froze and generally it was a bit of a pain. With the 1.10 firmware upgrade the X-H1 finally became the camera it should have been in the first place. For photography, it is excellent, though the AF can be a little fiddly at times and you need to know it well to get the best out of the system because it can be a little quirky. The picture quality is great (as is pretty much every camera now days) both in Jpeg and Raw.
When it comes to video, I am still working things out and have had some issues. 90% of the time I am using a Atomos Shogun to record to (which cost about £700, with add ons), It is just much more practical to shoot to, than shooting internally, where you have so many single clips, as they use fat 32 instead of exfat when recording video. Also the 7" screen is a huge advantage. Of course the pain with the X-H1 recording externally is the micro hdmi cable which has already broken the port once and has caused the camera to be sent in for repair.
There are a couple of other things which I find a bit of a pain. I hate the placement of the Q button and I am forever accidently pressing the button, particularly when shooting video for some reason. The AF button, I do find again is too easily accidentally changed, which can be frustrating and I do find the joystick, just to be in slightly the wrong position for my fingers (though others may love it).
As I said at the beginning though I do love the camera, particularly as I get more experienced with it but the frustration is that it is 7 months old and already feels out of date compared to the X-T3, particularly with the AF, which does seem to be on another level.
At the moment I am weighing up my options I am seriously thinking of going fully over to Fujifilm, from Nikon (the X-H1 blows away my D800 (which is should do)) and I love the slightly smaller form factor of the X-H1 over the D850, when you include lenses. The option is to get an X-T3 to go with my X-H1 but I am more likely to wait unto the X-H2, which won't be released for at least a year.
The biggest frustration is that Fujifilm didn't wait and release the X-H1 with the insides of the X-T3, as it would have pretty much killed every other mirrorless camera on the market but Fuji didn't and whilst the X-H1 is a very good camera and class leading in some areas, it doesn't quite stand out as much as the X-T3 does.
The last thing I will mention is the lenses. Fujifilm have optically the best lenses generally on the market for APS-C and some could say mirrorless and their newer lenses are astounding but some of their older lenses do need an AF motor upgrade. The 35mm f/1.4 and 56mm f/1.4 just feel slightly slow against the 35mm f/2 and the 90mm f/2 (I love the 90mm f/2 and would recommend it over the 56mm f/1.2, even though it isn't as practical).
So overall, I am happy with the way Fujfilm are going. It feels like Fujifilm do listen to their customers (which is the opposite of Nikon) and I do have to give a shout out to the Fujifilm reps in the UK who are great, particularly Carl who is awesome.
Michael Laing Michael, thank you for sharing such a detailed, extended real world review of the system! As I’ve marveled a number of times, what an extraordinary community we have here. Seems like Fuji has taken on board Sony’s rapid, iterative approach to cameras. There is a value, as another viewer pointed out, of foregoing an initial release of anything. One generation away from greatness? Having to use an external recording monitor would be a deal breaker for me.please continue to keep me posted on your X-H1 adventures!
I did my first video shoot for probably 8 years, just over a month ago, with the camera and generally the quality was good. I was manually focusing and I have to admit, I was very rusty with the shoot, which is why there are a lot of shots particularly at the end which I am not a fan of.
I also have to say the 18-55mm f/2.8-4 is an extraordinary lens for video, like this. It is easily the best kit lens ever made and optically works great wide open.
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Really like the look of the XH1 but just cannot make up my mind. As always I will probably wait until I can get a great used copy.
Sounds like a plan!
Love your intimate (and irreverent) reviews, thanks again. What about the Fuji X-H1? From my modest experiences with, I clearly appreciate its caracter, sometimes easy to use, sometimes difficult to understand its differentiates from the others but more than all these, I am seduced always its outstanding film simulation picture results because, may be, I am still to my dismay an old analog photographer who pretends to be "digitalized" ...
I’m waiting to see if the rumors are right on the X-H2’s!
Any idea when we might get an SH2 announcement? I'm a X-T3 owner (love it!) but I really really really want IBIS...
Don't get fried, Hugh; none of this is that important. Really. I love your videos and your insights and opinions but this little rock is going to continue spinning round the sun whether we're here or not. The thing that we tend to forget is that brand loyalty creates blind spots and, if you're tied into a system, it's incredibly difficult and expensive to extricate oneself - that's why I've done my best not to go to far down any such rabbit-hole. I hope Photokina is a great success and look forward to the review.
We agree. :)
Here we are two years later and I just bought a used X-T2 to go alongside my X-H1! 😉
I’m looking for my first hybrid camera for photos and video. Which would you recommend of the two?
ARE YOU BLIND?
Just picked up a used mint condition X-H1 for £500!! Only £500!! These camera are an absolute steal right now on the used market. I've got a GFX50s and in real world, the IBIS on xh1 'saves' so many photos at lower shutter speeds, compared to the GFX. For hand held in murky light (think UK winter), the IBIS is a god send!
Yes!
Coming from Nikon d750 and the Fuji xt1, I was tempted in getting the Fuji xt3 but instead I got the xh1! bundle with the battery grip and three Fuji batteries for about $1250!! Do You guys think that’s was a good deal for that camera?
WHOA - yes.
I did the same exact thing :)
Wish the design was cleaner like the SL, but I picked one up on Amazon since they’re 1000 pounds now for the camera and grip, seems like they’re clearing inventory
I’ve owned just about all the serious Fuji bodies. My current arsenal is a t20, t2 and h1. The H1 is perfectly sized and weighted for 2nd gen fuji lenses such as the 23mm f1.4 and 56mm f1.2 which seem a bit large for my T2. With the 56mm it’s a monster. Street photography during the day is almost out because it tends to make people run away. The T2 with a 23mm or 35mm f2 is a better choice under good natural light, but the H1 with a fast lens at night is the only way to go if one wishes to keep the ISO down and get great sharp images. The shutter and shutter release are probably the best in the world.
Thomas Geist I liked the little ‘crons, but I didn’t explore them for video. Same linear motor tech?
I have been shooting Fuji as a low level amateur for 4 years now. And I love both the shooting experience and the quality of the result. I have only been bothered by the AF of the 35mm F/1.4. Unfortunately it's also one of the best looking primes.
Now, in 2019, with almost two kids, I want to shoot handheld videos and be as happy with the videos as with my stills. I can purchase a discounted X-H1 and have fun with all my XF lenses. But I just don't want to semi-upgrade from my X-T2 and miss the cool new features of the X-T3. The latter doesn't have IBIS. So I can kiss all my beloved lenses goodbye for handheld videos of my family. Fuji is apparently not going to update the X-H1. So, I am switching to Sony or Nikon. And I am sad, because I love the Fuji ergonomics. By testing the A7 III in a local shop, I knew I would at least partially regret my move. Come on Fuji, you had to give me a X-H2.
Miguel Vazquez I understand.
It appears that the Fuji H1 and Lumix G9 bodies are about the size and design people like. Both those cameras were designed with a lot of photographer's input.
To sum up - the fuji xh2 will be awesome.
I Just want them to make a 1DX style battery for the existing battery grip and the AF boost to 425 with 200mbps H.265 codec from the X-T3 to be put into the X-H1 via firmware.
Tanks again for a very good walkthrough of the XH-1 versus the new Canon R and Nikon Z systems. As I pointed out in a previous comment, I have the XT-3 in sight, but I do also think we will see a lot of the XT-3 specs into a new XH-2! The problem is, when will we see a new XH-2!?! There's a music club in my hometown, Bergen, where I'd love to record the performance of the local band playing regularly there. I'm looking for gear to do this job but I haven't settled of what to purchase. I'm inclined to buy Fujifilm, not Panasonic, but but but ... Any thoughts about this, anyone?
By the way, they play blues, artists like Niel Young and Joni Mitchell among others and the best of it all, artists visiting Bergen pop in to sing with them! Even American artists have done so, so I thought it could be worth a project. Cheers William
This sounds wonderful - Bergen is on our bucket list. My view: get what will work for you now (if you're SURE you don't already have it), and stay lean. Things are changing so rapidly these days it's not only my head that hurts - I'm getting whiplash!
Thanks for your answer! Give me a word if you actually will arrive in Bergen. I can at least show you my favourite music club! Cheers :)
I had in mind the XT-3 with the 16-55mm f2.8 for this project. At the moment I just use my old XT-1 coupled with a Nikon 105mm f2 DC lens. My old Nikon gear is left on the shelf! So, I'm a photo shooter, but it's the absence of any videographer making a program from the music club that set me on this idea. If nobody will grab the opportunity, why not me!?! So, I'll have to get some new gear for this, I think.
16-55/2.8 is a great lens, but not image stabilized. You definitely want at least an X-H1 with IBIS if you intend to use this for video. An X-H2 seems the obvious choice worth waiting for. If you cannot wait, I'd say the Sony a7 III with superior AF is a better near-term choice for optimal performance, but that also means investing in native mount Sony glass. I'd suggest renting to see how you feel.
Many thanks for your advice! :)
I know Canon wants to compete with Sony... but man, they GOTTA start competing with Fuji first.
I say that as a Canon shooter who is familiar with the Fuji system... I get the drawbacks of APS-C but if those don't matter to a person...well... Fuji is highly compelling.
Patronus Photography Just so!
LoL. Too many thoughts held. Tilt head sideways and shake.
But seriously, this is another fine, multi-layered treatment that no one else on the net is coming close to. Bravo.
Ern Reeders Em, always appreciate your support!
Personally, I really like cameras that make me want to pick them up, get out and generate engaging and compelling photographs! Even the little X100F does that, extraordinaire....
Can't decide between XH-1 and XT-3. Looking to switch to Fuji from Canon 5D mkiv for weddings, mostly for silent shooting, lighter/smaller body + lenses, EVF, etc. I love the grip of the XH-1 and its unbelievably quiet mechanical shutter, but I can't help being tempted by the XT-3 due to its price, newer sensor and processor, plus I have use for its 4K 60fps and its 10bit codec... then again the XH-1's IBIS... Gah, you can see how the struggle is real. Thoughts anyone?
the autofocus just isn't as snappy in photographs as the canon would be, unfortunately
I think you'll want real, sensor-based IBIS like that of the X-H1. We've learned that good IBIS is HUUUGE. We wonder how soon an X-H2 will arrive.
What about X-H1's focus bracketing that the other companies you mention do not have!
I know they have an adapter for Canon lenses. I've heard and seen a few videos about it. Have you or anyone hearing use Canon glass on Fuji? I'm real tempted to get an xh1 or a xt3.
I use the Canon 24 EF adapted to my X-T2 and could not be happier. The 24 EF is a native 2.8 but with the adapter, goes to F2. The lens is sharp.. Period. I bough the lens for 129.99 (CDN) and the Viltrox adapter for $233.00 (CDN) from Amazon and have full auto focus functionality. The Fuji 23mm F2 is $599 (CDN) and the Canon and adapter cost me $363 (CDN) + tax so about $380 (CDN) all total. The Canon lens focuses closer that the Fuji so can be used for pseudo macro and is sharper from F2 to F4. No brainier as far as I am concerned. I will be buying the X-H1 for the IBIS as I shoot more primes than stabilized zooms. Looking forward to mounting my vintage primes on the X-H1.
XH-2 is coming with a vengeance, watch!!!
I will!
It’s been 4 months since you made this and a lot has happened... Fuji is a GREAT camera line and the firmware support if revolutionary. But...
I’ve had lots of Fuji X series cameras. Presently an X100F, H1, T2 and T3 with 8 primes. So, I’m into it. I’ve earned the right to kvetch. When the X-H1 came out I was right there waiting for the local cameral emporium’s doors to open. $1800? Yeah but it had 5 axis in body stabilization, a soft shutter release and a shutter mechanism almost as quiet as a leaf. A little too much like a Panzer tank, but they had to, right? I’m not complaining about any of this.
What I don’t understand is what they did with the pricing. A short time after I scraped up the $1800 they offered a $200 rebate. Okay, this is temporary. Then a price drop. One can now buy one at the permanent price of $1299 WITH the battery grip and 2 extra batteries. I feel a bit abused having been used as a means of market price discovery. They rushed it out in a strategic camera war play , pure simple but in so doing screwed people like me in terms of resale or trade-in value when the next model comes out. This was bad for me, but I think for Fuji, bad for the brand.
Leica is Leica because over the years they had made a point of protecting the brand. First and foremost because of an almost neurotic attention to quality perhaps only Germans are stll capable of. People will go out and buy 20 year old technology for 4 times the price because...well...it’s a Leica; and one can be confident the resale value will support the insanity of buying it in the first place. Every see a Leica go on sale? Don’t hold your breath.
I understand that Fuji did with the X-H1. They had to force an IBIS model onto the market, and perhaps before they were ready. I know some shop owners and they are not 100% in on Fuji, i.e., they seldom will carry the entire line, or flashes, or other paraphernalia they do with Nikon and Canon. I was told by one, “great camera but I’m here to make money.” Of course. Fuji dropped the price dramatically on the X-H1 so their perhaps wavering retailers could unload their inventory. I get that, but they did it at my expense.
Marketing is psychological. News? What they did here was make people like me gun-shy from ever getting the latest and greatest when it hits the shelves; and they advanced the idea that their cameras, X-H1 specifically, carry an overblown markup and are only actually worth about 2/3’s. Now, we know this may not be the case, but this is the message they sent and took some of the wow out of owning my X-H1. That’s right, I’m even subject to the psychological thing. Their sell out on the X-H1 looked like a panic move. Stock went up, but stock brokers are not, for the most part, photographers and gadget-gizmo lovers.
There’s a saying in marketing: “If a product is not selling, RAISE the price.” I think it will take some time before Fuji regains the trust of loyal owners like me after the X-H1 debacle. To protect the consumer and the retailers Fuji should have offered to buy back remaining stock that didn’t sell to hold the line on the brand name. I think this will hurt them in the long run, but let’s see. I’m into second chances and to get the ergonomics and film sims I really have no where else to go. I could sell the house and and buy a Leica, but I still have some priorities. But I will be waiting a good 6 months next time Fuji puts out a new model to do a little of my own price discovery.
What has the latest firmware brought to the HX-1?
Where was that book store?
Fuji needs to bring some of the new XT3 video features to the XH1. i wonder which are possible bring over given that xt3 has better processor. Its only been less than a year and Fuji killed their flagship camera. As it is, id rather have an xt3 with a gimbal than an XH1 .
Ive got both btw.
Have you done a xh1 v xt3 I’d be interested ignoring video as I’m not a videographer
X1.5 is a life saver
Do you think Fuji will make a lower resolution x-h1s, say 10 mp? Like a gh5s?
Alan Kirby It’s possible. But the Sony A7 III makes a compelling case that one sensor can do it all...
You're probably right. I'm just hoping someone will make a low res camera, I really don't need more than 16mp. I'm waiting to see what the A7s III is going to offer and if anyone will make a competitor.
So the Xh1 is at £699 in the UK now it's been discontinued. The Battery grip however is £250. Is it worth getting the grip as I just need it for photos. Later down the road I would get the x-h2 for sure. But now, I'm on a limited budget
Look at MPB Photographic website, got an excellent condition one from them, (where I also got the H1), for £120 - well worth it, using with the 16-55 = insane jump from my XT1
@@phillipgoldsworthy8531 Thank you for your help. Well I have some great news, as I was unable to get the Battery grip 'Wex' helped me out and reduced the 50mmf2 lenes to effectively Break even pricing plus some Batterys. So I now have the Xpro1 (I'll never get rid of it as its wonderful for Monochrome), the 18mm,27mm,35mmf1.4 and now the 50mmf2. Hopefully I can save for the 16-55mm or I might get the 90mmf2 next year? Thank you for help with the grip too as this would be the next purchase. P.s this video, and people like yourself helped me choose the xh1 over the many other makes of fuji. Going from contrast only Autofocus to modern Autofocus, and one million dots to three million in the viewfinder is going to be incredible.
@@phillipgoldsworthy8531 Also, I love how with the 16-55 the draw back was not image stabilization. However now the lenes with the in body stabilization it has become an amazing combo
NOBODY seems to do a review of the XH1'S top screen. It is the only thing I don't like about it. Otherwise, OIS is on the T4, but for another 900 bucks, even used. (hey, I used my Joe money for lenses....)
An IBIS system buzzer appeared on an X-h1 with less than 100 shots and 3 weeks of use, it drains the battery prematurely and this noise enters the video recordings, this is the store's response:
Roberto, today I personally attended the test of your camera to Fuji's authorized technical service regarding the alleged anomaly that you declare. The test was to open a new X-H1, install the batteries, remove the lid of the body and make a noise test. There was no difference between his team that is under review and the new camera. Therefore, it is concluded that the equipment does not have any operation problem or factory failure. Faced with this we can not accept your request for change on the grounds that the equipment has some malfunction, there are no valid technical arguments, nor do I see any ethical problem in the sale of the product enhanced on 10/09/18 or in the period between that you gave the camera reporting the alleged failure. Notwithstanding the above, please ask the Technical Service for more specific information that indicates that the sound you indicate is an anomaly, is a functional part of the product due to the hardware's own conditions, they indicated that they will look for that background "and in the As long as there are "they will send them to me to make them arrive to you. But I repeat it without falling into the crap that for the manufacturer is a normal condition.
I love this man!! Lol his voice my nigga should be a author lol
I love my XT-2 & pre-ordered XT-3. I would like IBIS for some reason even though I have never used it (I switched from Nikon). Do you think the XH-2 will be released soon with all the XT-3’s features?
No idea, but hey, what’s Photokina, PPE or NAB for? :)
XH-2 is not coming anytime soon. They will milk X-T3 as much as they can until 2020. The price of XH-1 with the grip for $1299 is unbelievable right now.
THANK YOU for taking the time to talk about the X-H1! Fantastic video! Some comments:
-1 My No1 issue: You often compare the X-H1 to the GH5 and describe the X-H1 as a "video-centric" camera. I do not agree and believe this is a proof of the how the X-H1 still suffers from marketing issues and incorrect product image perception, wrongly considered "video-centric" when it retains and improves ALL photography aspects of the X-T2, without any compromises or sacrifices to the photography features. It even improves on it with the upgraded shutter release. If we go into detail, the differences between the X-T2 and X-T2 are mostly handling and ergonomics, as they share the same sensor and CPU. One obvious difference is IBIS, but it's not fair to consider this a "video-centric" feature, and as you well put it, it is fantastic for handheld photography in low-light situations, and well, most "cine" cameras don't have IBIS (BMPC4K, GH5s, Canon Cx00 line, etc.)
2- You mention the recording limit as one of the big issues of the camera. I understand it's an issue in your situation with interviews, but to be fair, I'd argue the majority of users will not record 15 minutes+ takes. So while still an issue, it's not that limiting for most. You do rightly mention this is an issue affecting your own situation but I just thought I'd point that point out.
3- I don't believe it's fair to compare the X-T3 no-grip vs the X-H1 with-a-grip simply because of the headphone jack. Again, not all users need video, or, if they do, they might record sound with a dedicated recording unit, as we often see aside from 1-man jobs. Also, if you compare X-T3 no grip vs X-H1 with grip, then what about the battery life? The X-H1 will then have 200% of the X-T3, so that should be taken into consideration and probably mentioned to be fair.
4- I really appreciate that you mention in length the Fuji glass. Many reviewers often just talk about the body and ignore the lenses, when both exist as an eco-system, a truthfully, a great sensor cannot give amazing results without proper lenses.
5- You mention you don't know of lenses on Fuji XF that allow for a 1.2 Full-frame depth of field. There is a lens I own that very closely matches what you describe, the Mitakon 35mm F0.95 MkII. It's equivalent to a 50mm F1.4 lens on a full-frame body. Because it's a real T0.95, it will even allow the X-H1 to match say a full-frame camera terms of low-light noise. I just thought I should mention it.
6- When you talk about photography, you indicate the A7 is better thanks to it's improved DR and AF. I'd argue some users don't need AF (manual lenses, architecture, landscape, etc) and as you said earlier, DR is also something you want to control. But you didn't mention the other aspects of photography: camera handling (A7 pales here), the build quality (important for outdoors), the shutter mechanism, and arguably before of all, the color science.
Overall great video and thanks again for yet another in-depth video with a different and well presented point of view. Refreshing.
I am not really into video, should I still get the X-H1 or X-T2. I just need a good camera that I will keep for many many years.
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I totally love the quality of Fuji cameras but couldnt love them. I like ultra modern and avoid retro. I identified APS as the perfect sensor size 5 years ago and bought a Nikon D7100. Alas the image quality wasnt good enough and was blown away a year later by my APS Leica X113. I tried continuing with just a Fx D700 but the Leica nailed Nikon's coffin lid down. APS lenses are not too big which makes a huge difference; certainly to me especially on a nature trek. APS really is the first format designed for general performance and although it failed with film it was like a duck to water with digital. Clearly 35mm was chosen for convenience, and no other reason, a century ago as there was plentiful film stock available to use; it has no other advantage except for film requireing less enlargement. The exception is Leica M cameras who have a historical need to maintain continuity with their film equipment. Clearly full frame is living on borrowed time; the industry is starting to polarise into crop sensor and medium format. I am sure Sony will bring out a MF camera soon and professionals will jump on it. Fuji is way ahead here having identified this trend early on. Well their history is MF, I myself own a Fuji GW690III 6x9. So for quality I use my APS Leica TL2 and X113 while for shear usability especially with long lenses I use my MFT GX9. I cant see me ever returning to full frame except for film; I still love my FM2n. Have a good trip ;-)
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You could really narrate audio-books
I was tempted into xh-1 with 16-55 for a bargain (960Euro both. yea... ). but after a while decided to stay with Olympus, because the lenses are extremely small and light in comparison to fuji.
ar43r I understand. 🖖🏻
@@3BMEP : not to leaving the current system will help live at least prosperer :)
Do I need IBIS for travel/street photography if I never shoot video?
The Only TML Need? No. Find helpful? Yes.
@@3BMEP thanks for the reply! Any way you could quantify it with suggestions where it may help me? Still deciding between the XH1 and the T3 and its a REALLY tough one... :s
My advice: wait. Then go in to the store; try both in hand; double check your bank account balance; and decide then. :)
ähm sorry... the 50-140mm is a stabilized lens ;-) see for example 3:13
Bachmann Manuel you are so right - thank you! I plead sloppy copy/paste title editing in the rush to get the video out! GREAT lens! 👍
@@3BMEP Yeah i though about the copy / paste Problem XD
Yeah, but honestly i like the primes the better, smaler, lighter slightly sharper. Keep up the very good work.
Best regards from switzerland
I've watched a number of your videos and you are quite informative as well as entertaining, however, I disagree with you on this review X-H1. Maybe some of my issue(s) is that I have yet to master all of the controls but in low light, I'm not digging this camera. I'm really trying to love it but owning both an A7RII and EOS-R, the images I get out of the X-H1 in low light pale in comparison to my other two cameras. A number of the low light images ARE grainy in comparison to my full frame cameras. The 56mm f1.2 when compared to my Rokinon SP 85mm F1.2 are not as good....and it's hard to say why they aren't but there's just this "THING" missing about the images in comparison. Might I say it lacks micro-contrast? i don't know. The camera and its lenses are FAR lighter weight and carrying it around Chicago and surrounding areas make it a joy to use from a weight perspective but thats about it for me. The autofocus also leaves a bit to be desired.
I defer to your judgement for your use! Very surprised, however, to see you prefer the Rok to the Sigma. Perhaps a bad copy? As for low light: are you comparing the cameras at the same aperture or at the same depth of field? I'm guessing aperture - because much (if not all) of the full frame sensor's advantage disappears when you equalize for depth of field. What do you think? As for AF: nothing beats the latest Sony these days, but I'm a bit surprised that the a7r II is that much better than the X-H1. How/what are you shooting? No surprise when it comes the R - dual pixel is better than the X-H1 (not necessarily true of the system in the X-T3)..
What is the but?
Great at You Tube normal speed. And even better at 0.75 speed playback!
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Heard xh1 hangs and locks up a lot? Pls comment if this is true?
gku2004 was wondering the same thing.
What is the possibility of xh2 coming out in 2019?
I’d guess it’s a high probability, but what do I know?
@@3BMEP ...and we are half way through 2020
I own a XT3 and XH1. The image's of the XH1 looks more analog compared to the XT3 in my opinion. And a shutter release button like butter...
qualaup I hear you on the shutter. My friend Stephen Scharf would likely agree with you on the 1’s IQ. 😊