Understanding Protunes & How To Pick a ProTuner
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- čas přidán 7. 09. 2024
- In the previous video we covered O.T.S (off the shelf) Tunes so now its time we circle back around and touch on the opposite end. You guessed it protunes. Now there is more than 1 type of protune that you can get such as a dynamometer, Etune and street tune. There are most certainly pros and cons to each one. As well as talking about the different types we also cover how to find and pick a protuner. Because I see the question asked so frequently!
Now I do want to disclose this that every type of tune that we talk about in this video are done by pro tuners, a pro tuner can do tunes multiple ways and this video is not intended to say that one type os better than another.
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Every time I see the STI I still stare in awe. The wheels, the headlights, and the wrap are PERFECT together
Thank you! She is quite the looker 😉
If you want a ProTune Street reference, I paid $450/avg for all mine so far here in WI.
I plan on going for Stage3 and + tunes with a different one who only does Dyno, and for 2 MAP tunes (91+10% Eth, and E85) would be $850, on a Mustang Dyno.
These are both very reputable and professional tuners (and one COBB certified) here in WI. Just different styles, and can see it here for me in this case. Doesn't make one better than the other, just really which direction you yourself want to go and are comfortable with in your build.
Very true, no one method is necessarily better than the other 🙏
I just found a tuner shop in my area... well... an hour-ish drive, but close enough...
Thnx for the much needed info before I go get a tune on my STi 😉
I am gonna have so much subaru wrx/sti knowledge before I get one it's insane. Thanks for existing brother, keep being awesome.
Hope everyone's day goes/went well.
Hope you had a good day as well my man 🔥
Johnson tuning tuned my car and I would totally recommend them he tunes cars at Turn in Concepts here in Cincinnati, also the one who tuned Bucky laseks white gc8
when you said e tunes vary in price i literally thought of two companies with those prices!. $350 Bren tuning! $850 Phatbotti Tuning!
Yessir! Price can definitely vary with them 🙏🔥
a pro tune @ preRacing In Oregon is 500 to start
@@chrisstrandberg3587are you happy with your then from them??
Just wanted to say I used delicious tunning, they have been tunning subarus and other cars for 20+ years! There in Cali! This channel has helped me every bit of the way for my Subaru and a lot of the same mods
Theyre also a very very good shop 😁 glad the videos are helping my man!
Did they give you a base map? I'm thinking about going to them for their e85 package tune
Victor Corral what they do once you order is take into consideration of all your aftermarket parts and make and model of car and then send you a base tune. Then you follow the instructions do your data logs then the revise until it’s fine tuned
I’m looking to get tuned this upcoming January, is the tune still running well? I’ve also been looking at apocalypse racing and metro performance
Just did my Etune this pass weekend thanks to ShinjiTune 💪🏽💪🏽.. thank u for all u do brother
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Great timing for the video. Getting my JDM EJ swap done this week and was in the process of looking for a pro tuner!
Perfect! Sounds like it will be fun once done 😁
totally agreed with a dyno tune. i bought all my parts at once and installed and tuned at the same time. they spent two days on my car. one on parts and one on the tune. i was lucky and paid cash almost for my car and was able to do this at 19k on the car.
Thats the way to do it 🔥🔥🔥
How much does it cost to install all parts? I was debating if I should do it myself
@@tian2339 if its not your daily driver sure have at it. Do it yourself! The second answer is a tricky answer.
I took your advice and found what I believe is a good etuner. Man night and day difference with OTS tunes. Just picked up my first Subaru WRX about a month ago and happened to come across your channel. Content is awesome man and the way you actually explain things… keep it up!
Do have a question if you happen to see this. I went with Bren (recommend it to anyone looking for a tune, pricing is beyond fair and responses are almost immediate) and they recommended the Cobb gesi j pipe. Was originally looking at Grimmspeed but Bren said Cobb is the only one that doesn’t throw a cel. You hear anything like this?
2015 WRX Premium. Just have the apv3 and big sf intake.
Thanks!
Some tuners prefer certain parts, I've never used bren before but have heard mixed things. The grimmspeed ones shouldent throw a code though👀
Good stuff man! Will be doing this in the future and will keep this in mind.
Well worth it 🔥😁
Will watch it later busy today but leaving my like as always my dude before watching
Appreciate the support my man 🙏
Hell yeah glad you mentioned Surgeline, they are right down the road from me. Taking my 2015 Forester XT there for a stage 2 tune in the next month or 2.
They do awesome work!🔥
Still trying to watch ALL of your videos. Haven’t been binging out because I don’t want to run into a wall and be out of videos to watch until you post more (even though you never make us wait too long for a new upload) I’m also on the discord as well and lemme say that is one of the sickest discords on the whole damn app!!!! (Sorry for fanboying all the way out in your comments 🤭🤭🤭)
All good my man! I'm in the discord chats every now and then if you ever wanna swing in!
@@Smeediahey buddy got a question. I purchased a 2017 sti few years ago and before purchasing the owner had the battery unhooked because it was in storage and today I replaced my spark plugs and had the battery unhooked and I was wanting to know if I need to reflash my protune? I’m worried it lost its tune since the battery had been out for so long?
Street tunes are great for updates when you add a part.
I got a street tune after the TGV delete. Onpoint !!!
Oh yes! They can come in handy so you don't need a full retune 🔥
Smeedia Is modifying your car with full exhaust, Downpipe, FMIC, AOS, fuel injectors, FPR etc.. bad for the tune or the car in general IF installed all at once?.😈 Or as long as you a have a base map to go off of?
As long as the car is tuned for the parts, no issue at all 🔥😁
@Jose Mendoza- base map will get you to the tuner driving easy (not pushing it hard) there’s so much that can go wrong if something’s off on the base map and you hammer it.
Franco thanks! Definitely not trying trying to push it without the pro tune. I just want install all parts at once, get the nessecary map I need to drive it to get tuned right away. 🤙🏽
All these videos remind me of good versions of my lectures hahaha
Lol as long as they're helping some peeps out 🙏
Love the beginning, I thought it was Matt at first. That was awesome, did you hit up 6 star Motorsport??
If so, I’m curious what they said and what you think. Reason being, that’s probably the place I’m gonna go when I’m ready.
Great video as usual my man😎👍🏻👍🏻
Not yet I haven't, waiting until I pick up the new engine and get it then down 😁 and haven't duplicated myself in a while so thought it would be a fun one 🔥
Talk to Eric Dewitt, he is awesome awesome awesome to deal with. I live a couple miles from 6 Star Motorsports. Whoke shop is good business. Check out P&L Motorsports too. They are close by as well.
Electro Evolution definitely, yeah I’m out in Grayslake about an hour away I think.
@@tommanning7337 Not bad, I used to live in Chicago, moved to Buffalo grove, and Now I reside in Rolling Meadows.
Downside of dyno tune is price. Gotta pay the shop and hope to god your tuner can be done in an hour. Then you gotta pay the tuner extra money for a remote dyno tune depending who your tuner is. For me I was looking at 800 plus. So yea I did a e-tune.
How is the e tune working? I’ve been thinking of going this route but other people say a dyno tune is the way to go. Mine is a daily and I don’t plan on tracking it or anything just wanted to throw some bolt ons on it for more power but want reliability as well because I rarely ever drive it hard. A dyno isn’t too close to me and it seems the e tune would be the route to go
As always .... great content 👍🏽👍🏽
Thank you 🙏🔥
Great video as always. How safe would running an OTS tune be if you installed new mods but couldn’t get a pro tune for a couple months. Also HYPED for the EG build!
All depends on the mods that you getting on 🙏
Just the video that I need to understand for my turbo crosstrek 🤪
Turbo crosstrek?! 😍
Got beat by one. I need go fast bits lol
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Smeedia i’m gonna try an avo turbo kit 🙃, if my little fb20 blows up I will give you a call for the ej jajajaja
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This is perfect timing! Thanks for the video, Im actually trying to get my STI on a dyno already! Although what are you thoughts on a tuned Hks Bov 100% atmospheric?
I wouldent suggest one, I would stay on a BPV. Ive made a few videos covering why in depth but without being in speed density there's no point in running one and will still create a lean condition after getting off throttle
Awesome video brother. Very good content. Thumbs up.
Thanks my man 🙏🔥
I’m getting protuned, and I’m just nervous driving an hour and a half there, running it on the dyno, and then driving an hour and a half back. Don’t want it to over heat. Any suggestions?
Loving these informative video😍
More to come 🙏😁
Turn In Concepts in Cincinnati a great tuner. 95% business is wrx/ sti builds
Always good to see recommendations from everyone 🔥😁
you are the absolute best on the tube bro. thanks for the committment to us. it's more than Subaru USA has ever done for us STI owners ahhaha.
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Perfect timing, hopefully getting one in the next couple weeks 😁
Same for me as well, starting to think about getting a downpipe and going stage 2 😛
Yessss, all options are great methods for a protune 😁
From your experience. My car has an intake and catback exhaust. I’m installing a AOS, PBCS and turbo inlet hose.. Am I good with just the Cobb OTS tunes? Won’t do anything else with the car
So much good information thanks a lot🥲. Would you also recommend dyno jets for wrx??
Tbh the dyno type doesn't matter, it's just the device used to read output. 🙏 just keep in mind each one will read differently
You recommend any dynotuner here in Washington? I made the drive to Oregon for Big NW, and boy that was a mob. Thanks in advance!
English racing, PRE 🔥🙌
@@Smeedia thank you! You are amazing
I got a p013b code after getting a pro tune
How about a video on the 5 things WRX/STi drivers do to hurt their motor. Low Oil, Max Boost w/ intake temps of 150, 5,500 rpm launch at every opportunity, 1,500 rpm Launch at every opportunity etc. Ok so theres like 12 not 5....
Lol not a bad idea! I'll add it to the books 🔥🙏
Long overdue, thanks for the info! Any recomendations for Etunes?
Been running an etune from Eric at torqued performance and car runs great and he's one of the more affordable etuners after doing all the research
Eric is an awesome Etuner! Have heard a lot of good things about him 🔥
Another awesome video. Do you think Cobb ots stage 1+ is MORE reliable than e tuners like Bren tuning as an example? Looking for reliability and longevity.
No, youll get better longevity and reliability from an Etune 🔥
Great video bro helped a lot
Glad it helped! 🙏🔥
Do you have any info on HP tuners?
MSR in NSW Australia
I'm getting tomei uel headers and a j pipe, and im getting pro tuned soon, do I need to bring my access port to them or no?
Facts
*clap clap* PRO TUUUUNE! That was slick
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Been here since the beginning
Always appreciate the support my man 🙏🙏🙏
Could a Protune be available for a MultiAir engine displacement?
does anyone know if Performance Auto Solutions in Bohemia NY is a good shop?
I’ve always wondered... if you got tuned for flex fuel tune do all the following tunes require you to be tuned on both 93/e85? Trying to see if it’s more cost effective to make the flex fuel tune be the last mod, especially if you have to pay flex fuel tune prices for every tune.
So its a 93 tune first to set a base line with the mods then the E85 is added to it to set the tune and you can seap fuel at whatever % you like. If suggest doing it sooner
I've seen in some videos that you aren't a fan of dynojets and that you'd prefer mustang dynos, why is that?
They read diffrent most of the time and a mustang dyno tends to read a little lower than a dynojet so I feel as if it gives a better representation of power numbers
What is your opinion on Dynapack tuning? Each wheel is taking off and hooked to its own machine. My local shop uses this setup and think I will be going there in the near future.
Same as a dynamometer set up, just a diffrent tool to measure vs using rollers 😁
Thanks!
for e-tunes, does it matter to have consistent temps/road surfaces? i know vdyno is very sensitive to that...
I would clarify that one with your tuner, but I don't see it being a big issue
I wana mod my sti but warranty is holding me back, got the 5 yr 100k miles through carmax
You can get that money back of you cancel the warranty 👀
So if I’m putting on a turbo back exhaust on the WRX my two options to getting it to the tuner are to trailer it or they give a base map to drive it there?
If your just going a turbo back you can use an OTS Tune to drive it there
Hey Tanner I got to need Brian from mod garage. He's been very helpful at getting the parts I need. I
What's your though on PDX tuning? I just bought my car a month ago and they are the ones that did the pro e-tune on the car I purchased.
Never heard of them so not sure if they're good or not 🔥
@@Smeedia This --> forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2853879
Tim Bailey tuned my original stock engine\turbo to Stage 2. That thing ran at 17.5 psi with zero issues from when it was tuned at 90k'ish up to 140k where I swapped in a sleeved block at the time. The teardown was clean.
good video my brother
Thank you! 🙏😁
what tune should I go with when I’m planning on installing tomei UEL headers on a 2017 wrx with a FA20?
Dyno tune or E tune 🤙
Does the tuner need a base map to be installed before a pro tune? In other words could I put all the parts I want on, trailer the car there and he can tune it? Or do I need to have a base map regardless before the pro tune happens? Thanks! Love the videos.
Depends on the tuner, most of the time no they don't but they're the ones who are building the base map
Smeedia Thank you so much!
What do you recommend for a tune in a wrx cvt 2018 ? I already a Cobb accessport
I'd snag a protune, get an intake, J pipe and boost controller then go from there 🙏
@@Smeedia I got a k&N intake that work ?
Thank you I learning from you many things
I'd suggest a Cobb or grimmspeed intake 🙏🙏
I have never had a Subaru and this one does NOT have a Turbo. (2020 Outback) Can a pro tune improve the engine even though I don't use a turbo? Or is this is as good as it gets.
Unfortunately thats about as good as it will get 😢
Tuned on a land and sea dyno, the ultimate heart break dyno
Sea dyno? Lol what is this black magic 👀
I’d say ask someone that has more knowledge with dyno’s than me. Just from what I’ve looked up on it reads the lowest numbers. But also the most accurate for what you make on the road. Wife is telling me it’s the company. The dyno itself is called a dynomite dyno meter
can someone actually tune your chip and they live another state and cant up the obd1 up and see the reading they just going by the information you gave them of what you got in your car...i would think its hard to get the chip burn correctly especially the frist time..the reason i ask you that because im having that problem now..
what exactly does a tuning do for a car? I am getting an outback xt..does it improve mpg?
Improves efficiency of the car, mainly only needed when modifying it. However it can increase MPG depending on the tune and what all is done 🙏
Can i go to cobb in bridgeport for a tune with my ap??
Bridgeport? There is no Cobb there that I know of
What people need to know is that it’s the single most important thing you do when modifying your Subaru.
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Who would you go to for an FA20DIT tune, around the PNW?
Suregline tuning 100% 🔥
You guys know of any reputable places near the Tulsa, OK area, to both get mods installed as well as dyno/street tuning? Have a 2020 sti with almost 10k and bout ready to wake her up....
Unfortunately I don't know any shops out that way 😪
Misfire motorsports in Oklahoma
Good info , a pro-tune is expensive , if it's cheap I'd be suspicious ! We only have one tuner in 500 miles and he could ask for you're first born cause there's nobody else , cost me $800+++++ !
Not cheap but well worth it over an OTS Tune 🙏
Speaking of tuner requesting parts. I've already had a e tuner request for me to do an FPR kit before the e tune. Do u think that is accurate?
Definitely a worth while part to Get, helps clean up the fuel stumble that these cars have
So what tune would you recommend on swapping stock ulh to elh? Thanks
Etune or dyno tune 🙏
Can I keep my wrx stock and get a pro tune to give it Max reliability?
Yes 🤝
so in order to go stage 2 with a pro tune, ud suggest getting an accessport ? i wanted to skip and go straight to jpipe, intake and bpv? pleae let me know ur thouights
You'll need an AP for a protune, like 95% of protuners for subaru use accesstuner
@@Smeedia thank you for the fast response. love the channel!
Anytime and thank you!
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Should i get a protune after I installed an ets intake, catless downpipe, and tomei exhaust. Let know your thoughts because after I installed these I’m planning to save up for more parts.
Whats the car? 🙏
@@Smeedia 2016 wrx
You can use an OTS Tune for those parts but I'd always advise a protune 🙏
@@Smeedia alright thanks a lot for the reply!
Dyno tune only way to go. My 2016 wrx has thin rods, so going WOT regularly would have killed it without protune. No substitute
Protunes are much much better 🔥
I have a pretune run on the street, my car smokes too much when starting, it is slower when driving, I only have FMIC Catback ets intake, but do you think I need to go to the dyno to fix it
What color is the smoke?
@@Smeedia It's white, is it bad?
First thing xomes fo mind is coolant, on a scale of 1-10 how much smoke?
@@Smeedia It's like approximately 7 is a lot, it worries me, another thing that when I start my car it starts weak
Guessing turbo or headgaskets are leaking coolant
But do you always have to go back and get tuned after installing new mods?
Depends on the mods 🙏
Are the jb4 map tunes and the auto tune setting at least reliable?
Never heard of a jb4 tune before 🤔
Would it be worth the money right now with just an sf intake and accessport ??
Yes and no, I would wait until you get some other mods to do 🙏
Smeedia thank you Subieguru 🙏🏽
Have u been to PIAA in parkland?
Not a huge fan of PIA, personally would not suggest them
going through hell with my tuner/builder, going through a warranty and they are trying push me out of th4e warranty period
Ooooof, its a hard choice to make. But I'm always full send lol have to pay to play 😖🔥
@@Smeedia mate im sooooo damn close to going to fair trading, they are being absalut wankers.
Soon as they fix the clearances, im going elsewhere.
And these guys are supposed to be #1 in Australia
Ambott tuned here🤚
Heard good things about Ambott 🔥😁
do you have a shop #
what do you think of drunkmann tuning?????
AWESOME TUNER! 🙏🔥
Smeedia i’m tuned by him right now and was worried when u didn’t say his name 😂 ‘16 wrx out here in socal
But......do they tune that EG33ness?
PRE Racing can 🙏😁
What about phatbotti tuning?
Ive heard good things about him 🔥
Where did you take your car to have dyno tuned?
Suregline tuning 🙏
@@Smeedia great @hyperblue_waffle_sti recommended me to the same one, I'll definitely check them out, have you heard of PRE Racing and are they any good as well?
Yessir PRE Will be tuning my 17 STI 🙌
@@Smeedia which of the two if not both are good reputable tuners? I know stevetuned (great guy) is at PRE but he doesn't do the tuning though.
Both are good and reputable, Eric at PRE is good. Chris at durgeline is the only one I bring my EJs to
First...? Also again, I see video, I automatically hit like
First! 🔥😁
you have a twin?
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Could you pin 📌 to the comments some links for the tuners you recommend 👍
PRE Racing, English Racing, Surgeline tuning, Josh Bader 🔥
STIMIKEY BOTTI TUNE FTW
Remote tunes are only going to be as good as the logs. A lot of people take really shitty logs lol
Whoa 666 views ☠
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Waiting on phatbotti to get his dyno fixed ... lol
Hopefully its up and running soon 🔥🔥🔥
Phabotti is trash. Go to YimiSport. Paul is a mad scientist when is comes to Subis. Ron's tune lasted a couple of months before my car started giving me problems. Spent more money at Yimisport but I got 475 whp. Ron refused to go over 375.
What mods/tune? And what kind of problems?@@Omar-xg3lm
Had no clue it was so expensive
Paying for the experince 🔥
Honestly it's beyond worth it. I'm on my first WRX, actually my first time modifying a street vehicle that's not a diesel truck. I ran Cobb's OTS stage 3 map for a few months. Found an etune that was on sale for $250 so I went for it. Even the base map performed noticably better than the OTS map. I'm now 9 revisions into the tune and I can honestly say the car is considerably quicker, smoother, and happier than on the OTS map. I'm a believer. I'd say going from OTS to etune made a bigger difference than anything else I've done to the car engine-wise.
can someone actually tune your chip and they live another state and cant up the obd1 up and see the reading they just going by the information you gave them of what you got in your car...i would think its hard to get the chip burn correctly especially the frist time..the reason i ask you that because im having that problem now..
All your doing is data logging the information via the OBDII port through the ECU. Has all the info the tuner needs 😁
@@Smeedia I GOT A 1990 K5 BLAZER GOT MY 5.7 REBUILDED I BORED MY BLOCK 30 OVER IM USING EX262H CAM WOULD 2200 TO 2400 STALL BE GOOD FOR THAT CAM I TOOK THE STOCK ONE OUT..